OSTOMY CARE TIPS- DEALING WITH PANCAKING | WHAT IS PANCAKING
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- Time has flown and I am now 8 weeks post op! My output has been gradually thickening over the last few weeks and over the last week I have been experiencing the phenomenon- PANCAKING! 🥞
In this video I talk about:
1. What is pancaking 🥞
2. Top tips to stop pancaking 🥞
If anyone else has any tips I would love to hear them! 👇🏼
Lavender scented baby oil 3-4 squirts deodorizer and helps stop pancaking 18 months with my ostomy been a huge help
Great advice.. my 93.5 yr old mom has had colostomy since 1995..now in assisted living..so many problems .. but recently pancakeing cause of staff put depends so tight over colostomy bag... she has 3 not opened bottles of the lubricating deodorizer..I will prep her disposal bags for the staff and pray this will help her health & well being and be a help for the staff taking care of her🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞 thanks for the advice❤
My dad had his emergency surgery on June 5th of this year, and he has just started experiencing pancaking. Thank you for making this video. It was really helpful for us, just as your other videos have been. ✌️
The most appropriate and sanitary "oil" to use in a colostomy bag would be a personal lubricant like Astro glide, KY brand, etc. You don't want to use the one in the tube that's more of a gel but the actual liquid that you can squeeze out of a clear little bottle. Pharmacies even have generic versions of this. Just put 1 teaspoon of it in the bag, close it, and then rub the bag front and back around and around until it's sufficiently coated inside. Cooking oil's have a tendency to turn in texture, smell, and color. Oil gets "old," whereas personal lubricant will stay much cleaner.
Neta, KY is a lubricant so why can't the gel be used? I was just wondering how to direct oil from a bottle into a Stoma bag and the tube sounded good because that a sort of spout for direction.
Hi🙂 lm 8 weeks post op too.. I'm female 74yrs and pretty fit and live in Cyprus. I have amazing treatment here and had 2 nurses visit my home to help me change my pouch. I'm doing it alone now and tmrw is my last visit. But ofcourse they'll come back anytime l have an issue.
Your site is going to be good for me for the tips. I've had pancaking twice. I'll contribute too when l have the answer.
Generally lm pretty settled with my colostomy ☺️
You can try out stoma shields which allow the output to move away from the stoma. This is especially helpful when you hear clothing over your bag. Also, I have had good luck with convex bags. When I apply the flange, I don't use a complete barrier ring. I use about a third of it. I shape it so that it seals around the edge of the opening and I leave a little bit into the inside of the opening so that is turtle necks the stoma to help seal around it. I stopped using powder as I figure it is not allowing the ring to stick the base of the stoma. I also warm up the flange and barrier ring with a heating pad before applying it to my skin to make it stickier.
Thank you I’m 3 weeks post surgery and have had a couple of pancakes. Hope you continue to have a good recovery 👍🏻
A really great informative video. I’ll have to give that a try. I just thought that was normal when sleeping on my back. I’m just 2 1/2 months with an ostomy bag. I have lots to learn.
It is still really early days- I am still learning and I am 4 months post op. Please reach out if you have anymore questions, I'll be happy to help :)
pro trick: watch series at Flixzone. Been using them for watching loads of movies lately.
@Major Jason Yea, have been using flixzone for months myself :)
Thanks for all the great advice! I too go through a lot of pancaking with a new colostomy. So amazing to have a group of friends you can talk with! Everyone needs the support of others who understand what you go through!!!
Pancaking is not a problem for me as I use the clue on vents, and have a syringe that fits . I can squirt a bit of water into bag and the grasp the bag in front of the stoma , pull it out away from the stoma and shake it up and down a bit and the output will fall away and into the bag !
Make sure there's air in your bag just puff your bag get some air in there that makes room and makes it better I getpancaking its a pain it is thank you for sharing your tips really appreciate
Thanks for the tips Deborah!
Can you share how you handled the leaking of the ostomy bag at work? Your videos are very helpful. Please keep making them and providing tips. ❤
This is always going to be a point of reference. Thank you.
You're looking great, keep smiling...thanks for sharing. your favorite jumper..lol
Gotta keep that smile! (and the same jumper- which i actually have 2 of lol!)
Omgoodness thank you for the tip. Was looking a tip with this issue cuz it stinks!
The ‘lubricating’ deodorants don’t work for me. Olive oil cooking spray is better although be careful to not get any on the adhesive part of the bag. I got a dry silicon spray from the hardware store it is called Selley’s EZY glide and I spray my bags the day before using and peg them to the clothesline to dry. EZY glide spray works the best. Plus I’ve started using drainable pouches and washing them out with a bidet sprayer hose or bottle of water. With the water be careful to not get the adhesive wet as the bag won’t stick and is likely to leak
Thanks for the extra tips which I’m sure will help many people 😊👍🏼
Yikes! I wouldn’t want a dry silicone spray around my stoma! Olive oil or any cooking oil for that matter or Pam cooking spray. Baby oil or even argon oil for hair has worked for me. Coloplast Brava deodorizing lubricant is popular. I just got mine today so I’m testing it out.
Just going to my 3rd week of colostomy living & what a nightmare it can be. Maybe I'd feel & do better if I could get a pain pill but God forbid I get addicted, my Dr actually said this to me. Your worried that at 70 years old I'm going to get addicted? What do you care, I'm just about dead anyway and not for nothing but I have to live in horrible pain due to radiation destroying my stomach for life?! Something should be done about these new rules with any opioids which should be monitored of course
But, boygotting all or any medication is definitely not the way.. Actually it's crazy when they say why am I taking anxiety medicine? Cause I live in today's world, simple. Turn on the news, if you don't need an anxiety pill you will after watching.... Or your crazy! PeriodT
I have found drinking more water helps avoid thick output and the effects from it. I also don't use bags with a filter to avoid the possible leaks that can happen in bed when the output gets pushed up to the top of the bag
It's been a month for me now and I'm starting to get that problem,thx for tip hopefully it works for me as this bag seems to have a mind of its own..you take care 🙂
Thank you! Good luck to you! X
I use the lubricant "Adapt" where I get all my ostomy supplies. I experience pancaking sometimes (like now) and it drives me crazy. I'm 3 years into being an estimate. I cannot figure out why this happens (the output thickening). But the lubricant does not always work. Will try the oil you mention to add to my regular lubricant. Hope it helps. My skin gets raw from changing the bag ao often.
You’re right! I also rinse my bag with water every time I empty it filling the bag as full as possible several times. Then put your deodorant drops in again.
Join the club hun, 7 months post surgery , lots of bag trouble, the stoma enlarged from 35mm in hospital to over 50mm now... no pancaking yet but lot of leak problems.... I have solved it now... bag strait on body no hard rings.... good luck
Barry
Very glad to hear you have sorted your issues- it can take a while to get things right. Thanks for the comment :)
That sounds like it will work, will try with my mom, my daughter and I was trying to figure out why it does that,
Many thanks for this, I'm 9 wks post surgery, never had an issue until I moved to the flushable welland pouches. I only found out it was called pancaking from the stoma nurse yesterday, I'll get some spray olive oil from the supermarket.
Same with me- my pancaking only started about 8 weeks post surgery. Lubrication is a must!
Spray olive oil? I didn't know olive oil came as a spray. Thank you. Will see if I can get this.
Thanks….. some (“ pancaking , I am six years post Colectomy) so,options, * ADAPT LUBE/ Deod, leaning over before 2-3 am emptying , No On-back sleeping staying Sides on,y, etc. , & new pouch wetted/ Lubed….… Will try the “ OLIVE OIL, se3ms like should be *USP,OR **FOOD GRADE, as OSTOMY lubes getting expensive.
Oh no you didn’t just touch your noggin when you said touch wood. 💀 😂 Thanks for the tips! I don’t have a stoma yet but its a real possibility at my next surgery and I am arming myself with information. 😊
For me, tight clothes and my stoma do not work together, at all. Also, for me, vented bags don't work, because the front and back walls of the bag stick together much worse than with a non vented bag, making pancaking that much worse. The oil works some to help, but I also need a little ballooning to keep the walls from sticking together. I also, had to forget about belts and go to suspenders.
It is really important to find out what works and doesn’t work for you because everyone is so different! It is great you have so much self awareness and you are figuring this out for yourself. Thanks for sharing 😊
@@gutmylifeback7926 Thank you for the courteous reply. I am 69 years old, and 4 years into having a colostomy. I am still learning what works for me. I appreciate your suggestions and tips. I think you have got a great handle on what works for you, and it will get better. I will add one suggestion, which I think will work for everybody; Always keep a new and cut bag on your person, and some wipes, if at all possible, or the wipes, at least in your vehicle, even if just going away from the house for a few minutes. Emergencies will happen, not just might, they will happen. I keep the new bag in my hip pocket, in a quart, ziplock storage bag, which will be useful for disposal of the old bag.
@@wmden1 thank you for this great information- I am sure this will help lots of people watching/reading this xxx
I loved wearing jeans too. But the last thing you want is to block that lil red spout. So I ponied up $59.95 for a "stoma dome." It's a small, flesh colored circle of plastic. Looks a bit like a small 'frisbee'. Uses adhesive crescents of Velcro to affix itself to the outside of the pouch. Very cleverly blocks pressure that will come from seat belts & Levi's so the output can escape out the open end of the "cut out" dome. Works well during sleep rollover. Pricey but a nice addition to an active lifestyle. Used with a "stealth-belt" ($99.95) & I feel invincible. I hope this helps. I'm on my 3rd year but only had the "dome" for a couple a week's before I lost the little thing somewhere. Medical appliances are expensive darn it...
I use a deodorizing lubricating oil that I get from my supply company. It's Adapt brand. I also add 1 drop of dawn dishwashing liquid with the oil and rub it all in the bag. My bags have no filter as you were talking about.
My husband takes a stool softener which keeps the output more liquid. He has not had an issue with pancaking.
Ive had stoma 30 year pancaking still a problem no matter what l try😮
They have a lube deodorant you can use. I just got a couple of samples. I got them from Coloplast then I put some in the bag just squirt some in an get it on both sides of bag I have high output bag so I can squirt some in from the bottle ever couple days if I need to. Good luck
Yes. And it’s quite good. 👍🏻
Thanks
Thankyou for the imformation ive just had this problem spray olive oil is now on my shopping list
I was told my a friend who's had a stoma for 15 years to use a bit of baby oil. Same as olive oil I guess.l, just looks less out of place in a bathroom
Obviously I use a different brand. It doesn't lay flat and unless I'm upright it doesn't move away easily. Not sure about using the oil.
I have been ileostomy for 15 years. At first, it was so water-soluble that I didn't have much trouble, but for the past few years I have been suffering from pancakes and it is unpleasant. I have tried various measures, but it depends largely on my diet and water, so I have to leave it to my physical condition after all. I'm wondering if orthotic devices with some epoch-making ingenuity around the stoma will be cheap and popular.
I had my surgery about 8 weeks ago , I had a serious leak while out in a beer garden with lots of other people around , it was so embarrassing it was coming out thick 😢
Oh no!! So sorry you went through that! Wishing you the best.
Question doesn't d oil go under the flages and cost it to stick loss r to loosen up the paste
yes....my issue!
I’m 10 weeks from surgery. I’m still wearing sweat pants. I’m afraid to put my jeans on cause I’m afraid if they are tight around the bag it won’t be able to work correctly. Could you tell me if it would hurt stoma and output to wear my jeans ?
Hello! As long as the waist band does not press directly on the stoma it will not hurt the stoma or restrict output. High waisted jeans are great as they can sit just above it.
Thank you
😜 I like nice yoga pants with a low waist that sits on my hips so they stay clear of my bag...
Yoga pants and leggings have been my go to. I used to wear only jeans, but after my surgery, I just didn't feel comfortable anymore. Now I wear a lot of tunic tops and leggings. It is totally not my style, but I got used to it, and now I love it. It doesn't have to be "mawmaw" clothes...lots of cute outfits. Also, I wear prints now, because it doesn't show the pouch as much. Solid (especially light colored) leggings are asking for it (in case of a leak). I also wanted to say that "jeggings" are something I wear a lot too. It's difficult, but if you find some high quality ones they can look quite real with a tunic and boots. I even sometimes wear "real" jeans that have a lot of stretch (aka skinny jeans) My image was what I wrestled with most believe it or not. I know that sounds silly, but still looking good is important to me. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask :)
Baby oil is best
Ty
Didn’t work for me 😢
I'm only 12 days post op and my bag only seems to produce each 24 hours and yet it's fully blows up with air about 3 times per day. I have noticed that the stool is always sitting in top of my atoma, so I guess that's pancaking and blocking the vent?
I'm in Australia so sine if the products I've hear here I don't know
I was wondering if baby oil would work? I use a two piece closed, as although only day 12 it's quite thick.
I'm guessing in a closed you simply add it through the opening?
You need to drink more water to thin down your stool. Also fizzy drinks should be avoided as they can cause bag to blow up
When I change my pouch, I have poo stuck everywhere on my flange. I am having a hard time cleaning it off. I have tried to wipe it with Kleenex and water, but it does not come off. Also, there is a bit of poo right around my stoma. I use a barrier ring, and it gets in there. Do you have any ideas as to how to get this poo off.
Have you tried Cottonelle flushable wipes? They are moist and disintegrate like toilet paper for flushing.
Shower? I hand hold the shower head and direct it right at the little red gremlin, Soap and water, I'm using a Natura SurFit wafer from Convatec and it's got a moldable stoma opening requiring no scissors to form fit and once applied naturally closes tightly against my stoma thus almost completely eliminating the caking problem. I typically get a week per set up using one wafer and one bag.
They make deodorizing lubricants for this problem.
They are fab! Thanks for sharing
Not any kind of oil
Non of it works for me 😢
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