RF Mount Drop-In Filter Adapter Comparison | Featuring Canon, Meike & KipperTie
Вставка
- Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
- 💭 Comment - Let us know what you think of the adapters down below!
📦 Order here - buff.ly/3sl4qF3
🔔 Subscribe - buff.ly/2ymYMJQ
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Video Links:
Canon EOS R5 C - • Canon EOS R5 C | In-De...
RED V-RAPTOR - • RED V-RAPTOR 8K VV | I...
Canon C70 - • Canon EOS C70 | In-Dep...
RED KOMODO - • RED KOMODO | Image, Te...
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Product Links:
Home Page - buff.ly/2W2OIlx
Canon VND Adapter - buff.ly/34cxAOC
Meike Drop-In Filter Adapter RF to EF - buff.ly/3shcAy3
Meike CPL Drop-In Filter - buff.ly/3B57qsX
KipperTie Revolva RF - PL - buff.ly/3uypmL8
KipperTie Revolva RF - EF - buff.ly/3sl4gNX
KipperTie Filters - buff.ly/35EEqws
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Piece To Camera Kit:
Canon C200 (PTC) - buff.ly/3sqTgOI
Sigma Art 50mm f/1.4 EF - buff.ly/3vXM1zy
Sennheiser MKE 600 - buff.ly/3k4GYHE
CueScript EMC15 Teleprompter - buff.ly/3cVRWxj
Sachtler Ace XL Tripod System - buff.ly/3sIoTDm
Aputure 200D - buff.ly/3m9i0cY
Aputure Light Dome II - buff.ly/37OyU8e
Amaran P60c - buff.ly/3w2zbjl
Studio / B-Roll Kit:
RED RAPTOR - buff.ly/3AVurNv
RED KOMODO - buff.ly/3vSdZMY
Sachtler Video 18 S2 - buff.ly/3yV1tNr
Zeiss Otus EF Set - 28, 55, 85 - buff.ly/3gaMHuC
Zeiss Milvus 100mm - buff.ly/3CMYFUO
Aputure 600D Pro - buff.ly/3AMP5zw
Litepanels Gemini 1x1 Soft - buff.ly/3jUsbze
Aputure LS 60x - buff.ly/3mpG1wg
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Follow us on:
/ cvptv
/ cvpgroup
/ cvpgroup
/ jakerratcliffe
/ joefcannon
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Chapters:
Intro - 00:00
Context - 00:21
Operation Differences - 02:46
Available Filters - 04:39
ND Quality - 06:14
Tests - 06:46
Resolution - 07:14
Coverage / Vignetting - 07:34
Polarisation Artefacts - 07:53
Colour Cast - 08:41
Flaring - 10:21
Back Focus - 11:08
Build Quality - 12:13
Form Factor / Rigging - 13:22
Outro - 14:40
#CanonRF #VariableND #RFNDAdatper - Фільми й анімація
Let us know what you think of the adapters down below and thanks so much for watching! Jake
Hi Jake, I'm an amateur and been looking at the Meike adapter for my M50. I also have a 600D and would like to use the EF and EF-S lenses I have so thats good.. but can I buy the Meike for my M50 so I can use the filters but still use my EF-M lenses? I cant seem to find it as a straight filter without being an adapter, is it available?
I just can't believe that this channel has only 71K subs! it should be more than 1M.
This was great, especially the color shift section. Ive been using front lens filters and been looking to get one of these so i can stack BPM on the front easier. I know higher end productions use manual focus with a focus puller, but for the one man crew, it would have been great to know the communication performance of each lens adapter, how it auto-focus comparatively and if they communicate the lens stabilization with the ibis. I will try find this info on other videos, but this was a great overall comparison, good job mate
Very good review, as always. Thank you for this.
Thank you for comparing these. I’ve been looking at the Meike, but could not find any good reviews. I wasn’t going to drop $500+ on the canon one, but looks like I’ll be happy with this one for $150. I’m sure it’s not perfect but should fit my needs very well.
Got the Meike about 2 months ago mainly for photography and i love it, a look at the cost of it with nd and clear filter vs the canon is massive. The one annoyance for me with the Meike as you pointed out is the lack of any markings regarding ND strength
Great video, was looking for something like this :)
very useful and well made video! thanks!
Hello, great video! Can you use the Meike clear filter with the Canon adapter body? Keen to avoid splashing out on a clear Canon filter...
Thank you so much! I wish I found this sooner. I went ahead with the Meike adapter already but couldnt, for the life of me, find if there were cross compatible. Sodoes this mean the Breakthrough filters will work in the Meike adapter? Thanks again.
Awesome review. Can you also use astrophoto 2inch filters ?
Very helpful video, thanks!
Great review. Just bought the Meike and a CPL for it from CVP. Thanks 🙏🏻
Hi Jake,wonderful review, I have never seen anyone posting a photo or video about installing revolve RF/ef adaptor on a R5C body, is that can be done or due to that larger size of the nd ring it actually can't work on a R5C body ? thank you
That locking RF mount on V-Raptor though! 🙌 RED, please give us that as a retrofit on Komodo....pretty pretty please.
I would LOOOOOOOOVE to see Meike makes one of these for L mount to canon ef …. That would be so great
thx for the great content as always my question and sorry im the only one with this issue i use atlas orion with ef mount om that lenses the back stand out more then with regular ef lenses witch one would fit with the alas orion EF mout spechaly 50mm cuc i would luv to use it on a ginbal on a fullframe camera lice r5c or comodo thnks alot
What options are there for cages for the upcoming R5C that will allow the KipperTie Revolva the needed clearance, as well as allowing for a support foot for the adapter? Thanks for a great video!
would love to know the answer to this question too if anybody knows.
How much vignetting is there with the Revolva on a Raptor - V?
Hey team, is there a drop in adaptor option for just straight RF lenses? this being rather than using a matte box/filter combo
Great info. I've tried many. I even tried the behind the lens clip in style. Loved that concept hated the results. I have 2 C70's so no issue there. I need something good for my R5c that's coming. I have all RF lenses. I just ordered the Freewell 82mm Threaded Hard Stop Variable ND Filter. Fingers crossed. I have few screw on 82mm NDs but they are awful. Thanks bud!
Be careful with variable ND as I find they often give color shift, as it's just two circular polarizes working together. Especially if filming any type of screen it really messes up how that comes through to the sensor. You can't go wrong with single strength Tiffen ND filters that you can stack in front of lens. They're definitely more expensive than others, but the glass is top notch. Have had them for years and had no problems. Even stacking 2-3 of them togther. Get a .3, .6, and 1.2 and you should be set!
So what are the advantages of the canon one ?
Is there a noticeable AF performance difference Between the Canon and Meike?
Thank you for the perfect article, it's very rare in the internet. Question; the Canon and Meike and Breaktrough Drop-in Fiters is mechanically cross-compatible? For example can I use Breaktrough Filters in Meike Adapter?
Do these work with the Sigma 18-35 1.2 Art regarding autofocus?
Could you also do this for L mount? Thankyou!
Is the Red raptor in stock?
how is the autofocus ? with adapter and old EF Canon lenses?=
You mention cross-polarization and demonstrate the impact well, but it is also worth noting that dual element rotating VND filters are essentially two layered polarizers with a 90 degree range of phasing adjustability. So it is impossible to use a VND without basic polarization even wide open. Switching from landscape to portrait orientation may be problematic with that. Obviously that is less of an issue for dedicated cinema use, but photographers and TikTokers should be aware of it.
(Also, I bought the Meike and question why anybody would spend so much more for the Canon.)
is possible to fit the Revolva on Eos R3?
Can the revolta be fitted on the R5C?
I bought the Meike (ND and CPL). The combination was less than the Canon system and worked very well with my EF 17 to 40mm L F4 lens. I had to return it, because it did not work so well with the EF 24-105mm L F4 version 2. For some reason, the lens was forced into manual mode (when lens is switched to AF) between 35mm to 105mm focal length. It autofocused between 24 to 35mm.
Very informative.
Great review of drop in adapter filter solutions. These filters are a sort of mid ground solution. Not as good as traditional 4 x 5.6 Matte box filters and a matte box in terms of performance but in terms of price they are what would be classed as affordable. Very few people can afford to spend £500.00 for each 4 x 5.6 IRND filter plus at least another thousand for a matte box.
very very useful information
This is perfect timing because I just ruined my Canon VND and looking at what options are now available.
Are the drop-in filters from the Canon and Meike interchangeable with the adapters? Thank you for a comprehensive review. Very informative.
Yes they are! Jake
Great comparison as always. Would be very interested in an autofocus performance comparison between the Canon and Meike versions. How reliable is the Meike with autofocus lenses compared to the Canon?
Should be identical, I've used both with the R5 & R5C and couldn't tell a difference. Jake
@@CVPTV great to know, thanks!
@@CVPTV Question answered perfectly, thanks
GREAT INFO
Great video. After using in-built ND's I don't think I could go back to screw on or matte box types. One question. Perhaps I missed it but do the Meike filters fit the Canon adaptor and vice versa?
It said that you can use the filters across the systems.
The meike filters can fit the canon adapters and vice versa for sure
Hi guys can anyone tell me if the clear filters reduce any light entering the camera? OR is it literally just as if nothing was there?
The rizla filter dropped down? That goes inside the roll up 😂 thanks guys
I got this exact adapter and for some reason it will not auto focus or allow me to change the aperture in camera. I think the one I got might be defective. I used multiple Canon EF lenses on my Canon R6 with this adapter, and could not get it to work.
I'd like to get that KipperTie, but just too expensive.
Hi CVP, regarding your statement on 12:10. I would think this is not a problem since systemcamera's like the R5 use digital auto focus to adjust the lens/sensor to get the best sharpness, unlike DSLR's. Is this not true? I once bought a cap for my drop in filter mount instead of the clear filter.
It is still a problem with RF mount as it is with EF mount and any other camera and lens mount. Jake
Hi guys,,does anyone of you using a Canon R6 with Meike VND filter rf to ef, with Tamron 24-70mm 2.8 G2?
I've been using the R6 for a while now with the Tamron 24-70 and now i got the Meike adaptor VND filter but is causing some issues. Sometimes the lens loses focus and starts making noises.. anyone having the same issue? I just updated the R6 to its latest firmware
it would be really helpful to see a video on other various brands’ vnd matte box systems and the color shifts they exhibit such as the tilta mirage and the polarpro basecamp
Not all NDs are created equal which makes no sense as the very nature of a ND should be neutral. But many brands color image, some in good way others in bad.
@@savagegeese lol yea duh
@@samvogel2452 To your original post its not talked about enough.
So there’s no RF to RF adapter with ND only RF to EF?
also prevents debris entering camera when changing lenses
Question: when you say white balance the MEIKE adapter due to its warmer tendency, does that mean I would be able to adjust the kelvin by a few hundred in comparison to what i would shoot without the adapter?
For example, if I’m using my RF lens outdoors in 5500K and I wanted to switch over to my EF 24mm f/1.4 lens with the MEIKE drop in adapter, could I just change that to something like 6000K to adjust? I know that’s not an accurate kelvin number because i would have to test it to see if they roughly match, but just throwing in a number for example purposes)
Yeah exactly, you could in theory do this. But I would say setting your WB with a grey card as soon as you put your adapter on will give you the best results! Jake
@@CVPTV Of course! I was just throwing a what-if situation for when I’m out on a run-and-gun style, which gives little to no time to accurately white balance. I don’t mind the white balance being slightly off as long as my RF and EF lenses are the same color before I have to grade in post.
Thanks for sharing!!
Hi. Thanks for this. Is there any RF to RF adapter with filter? I want to use the RF lenses but I would like a solution for filter that's as convenient as this.
Afraid not as it would be physically impossible. Jake
nope, because that would mess with the flange depth of the lens, which is designed specifically for RF. The only Rf to Rf you can get are teleconverters.
It would be nice if we could put ANY filter we want.
Does the Revolva vignettes with the r5c since it is a full frame and i heart this Adapter was made for the komode in mind (with his super 35 sensor)? Thanks!
We mention it in the video - ua-cam.com/video/l061YS30Qno/v-deo.html
@@CVPTV Oh thanks i missed it for some reason... Great video!!
No worries! Thanks for watching, Jake
Do you get full autofocus with the VND adapter?
Did you find out?
I'm confused so autofocus will only work on the Canon Adapter with the Clear Filter? It doesn't work with the ND Filter? Does Autofocus work with the Meike?
No it doesn’t work with no filter in the adapter at all. Jake
@@CVPTV But it does work with the ND filter in?
Yes AF works with the clear, pola or ND filter. It only doesn't work with no filter in the adapter at all. Jake
Thanks for the upload. Just to confirm, it's possible to mix and match Canon and Meike drop in filters with the Canon adapter. Just wanted to be 100% sure. Thanks in advance.
Sorry, I just heard your comment on RF.
Am I missing something or is there not a way to make this work if you have only RF lenses? I recently got an R6 and I don’t think I can use drop-in filters if I use any new RF mount lenses, only if I have older EF lenses. Am I correct? Is there a product for that situation other than an external filter screwed onto the front of the lens?
Just want to clarify something you said that the clear filter was required if you want to use autofocus, do you mean that there just always has to be a filter inserted? Autofocus still works with the variable nd right?
If the “clear” has glass, does this hinder quality, I would have thought it would be a blank (no glass).
The clear does have glass, it does hinder quality from our tests. If it had no glass you would have issues with back focus. Jake
I haven't used Meike adapters since one of them broke while out and my 500€ lens fell on the ground and the glass broke. Thanks Meike for good quality. From now on no more cheap adapters ever.
IF JUST THE KIPPER TIE REVOLVA WORKED FOR CANON R5C 😫😫😫
thanks
Just commenting, I am a canon user and I wonder would benefit some user if they make a RF to RF, since I swipe all my lens to RF system, these adapter just don't work.
I have the same problem
@@marlenafaerber1116 start to wondering if its only me who have this problem. (glad not just me) Or maybe its just not big of a deal for canon to consider making one
@@changkaichen2233 tilta mirage
@@dudedavid522 I've look into this, and I think this might be the solution, so Thank you!! 😃
Does the autofocus on EF lenses works when it mounted on Revolva with R5C body?
I am so tired of searching... Has anyone made one without adapting from one mount type to RF? I just need to use a drop-in filter between my RF lens and the camera body to avoid screwing filters on the lens. Is there such a magic mount?🙏 To clarify, I mean I just want to use drop-in ND filters. To make my EOS R6 as easy to use ND filters as my BMPCC 6K Pro.
You can get clip in filters for the R6 that fit into the camera mount. They just won’t be variable and will be difficult to change with an increased risk to damaging your sensor. Otherwise it’s not possible due to how lenses work I’m afraid :( Jake
@@CVPTV I understand that. Maybe I didn’t ask clearly. If someone makes the exact same drop-in “adapter” but without transforming the RF mount to EF, and instead being RF on both ends, but with the drop-in space, that’s what I mean. I have EF lenses and the adapter would be great, but my RF 14-35 for example is so much lighter, that I would like to keep using it without the hassle of screwing on and off my Tiffen ND filters. Just for convenience.
My BMPCC 6K Pro is great for that but is heavy on its own, so I’d prefer to use the R6 for most daily recording.
Unfortunately, that's impossible due to the Physics of how lenses work :( Jake
@@CVPTV I feel like my brain is shorting out. If it can be done from one mount to another, what can’t it be done without transforming the mount. The current one is basically a spacer but that converts the mount. In the same format, having RF on both ends would work just the same. Why wouldn’t it? Maybe I just need more coffee.
@@TesLatino Check this Wikipedia article out - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flange_focal_distance
Fantastic video....very Gerald Undone like with the technical breakdown!!!!!
Help me out here.. why cant I just get a built in ND Filter to use with my EF-M Lenses that isnt a damn Adapter? Just EF-M to EF-M please? Massive opening in the market, all these built ins are Adapater. Huge oversight by Manufacturers
A simple RF to RF drop in filter adapter would be awesome to be able to use all my RF lenses with a back end variable ND filter system.
I think it's extremely stupid of all of them not to have a drop in filter with RF to RF. For the love of me why would anyone not think that's what people want buying into the RF system?
It's vaguely amusing that cinematographers have the problem of *reducing* the light transmission of their lenses...
Not when you understand shutter angle that needs to be fixed for video. Shoot 24p and your at 1/50 or 1/48 and you can only adjust iso and aperture.
If you want shallow depth of field - cutting down light with a wide open aperture is necessary.
Cheers 🥂
haha. As someone who shot photos for decades and move over to the cine world I can relate haha. Especially with wide ap lenses and IBIS now, doing still is a piece of cake compared to motion/video. Always needing to either add or reduce light - and you can't do it by shutterspeed without breaking the 180 degree rule. Which means all your "photos" are F2 at 1/50th of a second for video on average. Bright mid-day sun or the darkest of night clubs. Never knew I had it so easy in the still world.