Today I want to talk about whether you should buy the skip shift eliminator for your 6 Speed Manual Challenger. Is there a way to disable the skip shift feature?
The difference is huge between the two modes. Like you said sports mode has the proper response. I hate the normal drive mode. Too laggy to almost to a bog.
No kidding. Didn’t realize until now that just the latest models turns off the skip shift wit sports mode. Yeah I can’t blame ya. I would have got the eliminator as well if I couldn’t turn it off. Thanks man.
Great video, my wife and I just ordered our 2021 Challenger with the manual. Skip shift used to be annoying when I used to drive my brothers LT1 Trans am.
With my two manual Challengers I owned, that was a mod that would rarely come onto play as I never put myself in that algorithm for it to kick in. Nice peace of mind when you're not in sport mode that it will not put you in a poor situation to need to accelerate being forced into 4th.
This is one of the main reasons why the Taser & Bypass Module was the first mod that I did on my 2023 Challenger R/T 6 Blacktop edition 6 speed because it allows you to set sport mode to come on automatically every time you start the car, so for just that alone it was worth getting the Taser for me and the added security of setting pin start along with all of the other stuff it let's you do (like light show, adding performance pages to evic, changing the startup splash screen, and so on) was all just a bonus on top of it. So if you have a manual Challenger and prefer having it in sport mode all the time you should consider getting the Tazer if you can because it's more than worth it imho, because for me it paid for itself the first time I started my Challenger after installing and setting it up when I saw that green flag come up on the dash by itself without having to touch a thing.
The car is legitimately easier to drive casually in sport mode than it is to drive it in regular. I just want my car to feal like its reacting to me, not to the computer.
My 13 challenger doesn't have a sports mode so I got the skip shift eliminator and it works beautifully it will still say shift 1 to 4 but I can still put it in 2nd
That is interesting and you make a good point about no sport mode. If I don’t have sport mode I would get the skip shift eliminator in a heart beat. Thanks for watching and the support. I appreciate it !!
No buttons. I had a 2010 also. What I found is if you over inflate the tars to near maximum pressure, you just gained 10 additional mpg. I went from 21 to 31 hwy.
@@richardlong8014 for real? That's pretty crazy, how'd you figure that out?.. I just want to be rid of the shift skip, it's the worst feature any manufacturer would put on a V8+
I have the 2016 Scatpack and it still locks me out of 2nd from time to time in sport mode. I thought something was wrong with my transmission at first lol
It doesn’t turn the traction control off. It puts it into sports traction so it will allow for a bit more wheel spin… but it would kick in if spinning got out of control or you started to slide.
Wow that is very cool that you found out you can just go to sport mode and bypass that shift. Personally I feel the skip shift eliminator is cheap enough Id still get it just to never have to think about circumventing such a stupid feature.
Sport mode does not prevent the skip shift on challengers made before '18 (I think, could be off slightly on the year but my '16 still locks me out of 2nd in sport mode)
Ok I can say I’ve been locked out of second cause I was casually driving and it is alarming and scary when it would happen. I added the skip shift for good measure. When I drive my car I put it in sport mode and fully turn traction off by holding the button down for 10+ seconds till the dash chimes every time I drive rain or shine. Another thing I use combined with sport mode and no traction on is the pedal commander. I know you can make it super aggressive but I simply use it at a specific setting to eliminate throttle lag, that’s it. Basically making the whole system work together in my own preference. While if I have it in regular (no sport and regular traction on) I can feel a huge difference in throttle. I have a manual just like you
I will have to try the full traction off. I have pressed and held it but maybe just not long enough. The difference in throttle response between normal and sport is so huge. I can’t stand driving in normal mode. That’s really cool about the pedal commander. I feel like sometimes that between 4000-5800 rpms the systems are holding back my performance. It’s probably traction control etc. maybe I should look into that other stuff and see if that helps.
I had to install one. In the beginning I drove like a sane person. Now always in Sport mode I noticed my tires are wearing out unevenly. Thinner on the inside edges. Any reason for this?
I have always had that type of wear on my chargers and challengers. It’s important to rotate the tires. But look at any rear wheel drive car you will find that the tires stick out more on the outside of your car on the bottom / and lean inside towards the top. It’s all about handling and traction. I believe that’s typical.
That’s kinda bizarre. I would imagine it should. You might need the skip shift eliminator. I have changed my driving habits a bit. Unless I am dropping the hammer I wind out first a bit longer and go to third than fifth. It’s annoying to be locked out to 4th.
@@BurnseysRT I have a 2016 Scat Pack and I swear it has happened to me in sport mode. I knew you could shift from 1st to 4th but I didn't know the computer made it mandatory within certain parameters. For $10 it's well with the peace of mind so you can drive the way you want to without thinking about the damn computer telling you how to drive.
@@braney56 I think you are correct. After reading through several comments from Scat Pack owners I have found that this will happen in sports mode. It’s weird. You would think it was out opposite from the RT.
@@BurnseysRT BTW, it only happened to me half a dozen times over the years (it's not a daily driver). and I never knew why until I saw your other video about it. I never dumped into 4th, I'd double clutch and it would then slide into second. Thanks so much for your attention to this subject. I just received my Skip Shift Eliminator in the mail today, now I have to get my old bones under the car to install it.
The skip shift comes into play *if...* Your driving habits cause it to activate regularly and you don't want to adjust your driving habits accordingly so it doesn't come into play. You have two choices *other* than switching to sport mode every time you get in the car and, it changes the throttle response, etc. and uses more fuel. Either adjust the way you drive, shiftpoints/speed or, putin a skip shift eliminator and be able to go 1st to 4th only when*you* choose, regardless of your regular driving habits. This should be the actual content ofthis video for the purposes he made it. But a good discussion to have. What isn't discussed is thst while you're down there putting in the device, drain the current transmission fluid which, even though "Mooar recommended," is a good part of the "notchiness" while shifting that people frequently lament. After cleaning up your mess, refill to just overflowing with *Royal Purple MAX ATF fully synthetic fluid (your 6spd Tremec uses automatic trans fluid) as this fluid is a direct replacement for Chrysler ATF+4 fluid. It will blend with the factory fluid as a top off but best performance is with full replacement. You will notice a *marked difference* in the way your transmission behaves because RP MAX ATF is a synthetic, very fibrous product which treats the synchronizers just the way they like. You can order the fluid from Amazon in a 6pack, much cheaper than by the quart though you'll only use 4 at a time. The only other thing that will improve your transmission performance beyond that is replacement of the factory shifter with an aftermarket by Barton, Hurst, B&M, etc.. (The Barton is the choice today, it would seem). Happy shifting!! 😊
Okay... So color me an idiot. I've owned my 2015 Scat Pack 6-speed manual for about 2 years now and have never ran into that issue. I have more issues missing 6th gear (during some spirited driving) than being locked out of 2nd. I don't get any indicator to shift from 1st to 4th gear in my car. Is this something thats baked into the coding of the ECU? For reference my standard shift pattern for daily driving is: 1st, 3rd, 4th, and 6th. I rarely use 2nd & 5th gear barring some mild congestion, city traffic, passing or spirited driving. I actually got this tip for RCR (Regular Car Reviews) when they did a giveaway for a Dodge Challenger R/T with the 6-speed. This change in shift pattern may solve your issue as I found the scat packs gearing for 2nd & 3rd along with 5th & 6th gear to be too similar. But this is my 2 cents.
Hey. It’s baked into the ECU / TCM but with your shifting pattern of 1st to 3rd you’d never notice it. Not ever. After a while I felt the same as you and went from 1st to third pretty regularly. I saw someone drive like that on a UA-cam video and was like why the hell didn’t I ever think of that. The car has plenty of torque. But I would bet if you gradually wound out 1st similar to how you would if you wanted to go into 3rd and tried putting it into 2nd instead it would lock you out every now and then. It’s really kind of stupid but whatever. Thanks for your input and suggestion. I am sure it will help someone.
Nice Video! It really is a shame that we paid extra for the manual (gas guzzler tax) and they still incorporate a skip shift. I put the eliminator on just for piece of mind.
yeah man. That is crazy 100%. We get a manual for a reason. If we wanted our shifts overridden we would have gotten an automatic. How was the install on the eliminator. I may do that still some day.
@@BurnseysRT The actual install was simple. But learn from my mistake. I pulled the car up my ramps and did NOT wait long enough to let the exhaust cool down. I still have a burn mark on my hand since June.
Well that is wonderful to hear. Probably drive it more aggressively or shift out of first quickly. It’s pretty specific when it happens. You have to gently accelerate up to like 18-20 or so in 1st and be at like 25% throttle or less. If that doesn’t happen you are good. It’s good to know it can happen Incase it happens because it does leave you wondering WTH is going on.
Be glad, it’s the stupidest thing ive ever seen. Almost been hit several times because my car will force me to go to fourth but it won’t tell me so I’m over here trying to find the gear
If you have sport mode on your that might do the trick or you can install the skip shift eliminator. See link below. Thanks for watching. www.americanmuscle.com/sr-performance-skip-shift-eliminator-0818.html
I almost got hit in an intersection when I couldnt get out of someones way because of 4th gear, after that, I said fuck everything and got the eliminator, If I want skip shifts I want it to be my perogative in any drive mode.
100% agree with you on the sport mode driving it's how the car should be all the time.
The difference is huge between the two modes. Like you said sports mode has the proper response. I hate the normal drive mode. Too laggy to almost to a bog.
Can you customize sports mode?? Steering, suspension, transmission etc..
Moral of the story, if you have a newer challenger with sport mode don’t bother, if you have the older one, get it
Absolutely right. Glad there is an option for the newer owners
@@BurnseysRT I can’t stand the skip shift, I’ve almost been hit several times because it forcing me to go to 4th and not even realizing it.
I drive my 2015 r/t in sport mode and it still locks me out at times, just ordered the skip shift eliminator 👍🏽
No kidding. Didn’t realize until now that just the latest models turns off the skip shift wit sports mode. Yeah I can’t blame ya. I would have got the eliminator as well if I couldn’t turn it off. Thanks man.
Great video, my wife and I just ordered our 2021 Challenger with the manual. Skip shift used to be annoying when I used to drive my brothers LT1 Trans am.
My 2018 and it locks me out all time im ordering it because fuck a skip shifter
Thanks for sharing that information. This is exactly what I needed to know...
Awesome!! Glad I could help.
Where is the electronic
Computer gear selector located on my 2011 Rt Manual 6 speed? Photos?
With my two manual Challengers I owned, that was a mod that would rarely come onto play as I never put myself in that algorithm for it to kick in. Nice peace of mind when you're not in sport mode that it will not put you in a poor situation to need to accelerate being forced into 4th.
Yeah I rare put myself in that situation either. Most of the time I am going to slow to even get to 18-20 in first. Haha.
Sport Mode is a beautiful thing.
It certainly is my friend. Kills a couple birds with one stone.
Mine seems to suck twice the gas in sport mode...no Bueno at $4+ a gallon now
My 6 speed does it worse in sport mode
This is one of the main reasons why the Taser & Bypass Module was the first mod that I did on my 2023 Challenger R/T 6 Blacktop edition 6 speed because it allows you to set sport mode to come on automatically every time you start the car, so for just that alone it was worth getting the Taser for me and the added security of setting pin start along with all of the other stuff it let's you do (like light show, adding performance pages to evic, changing the startup splash screen, and so on) was all just a bonus on top of it. So if you have a manual Challenger and prefer having it in sport mode all the time you should consider getting the Tazer if you can because it's more than worth it imho, because for me it paid for itself the first time I started my Challenger after installing and setting it up when I saw that green flag come up on the dash by itself without having to touch a thing.
The car is legitimately easier to drive casually in sport mode than it is to drive it in regular. I just want my car to feal like its reacting to me, not to the computer.
That’s a really good way to put it - explain it. I agree 100%
My 13 challenger doesn't have a sports mode so I got the skip shift eliminator and it works beautifully it will still say shift 1 to 4 but I can still put it in 2nd
That is interesting and you make a good point about no sport mode. If I don’t have sport mode I would get the skip shift eliminator in a heart beat. Thanks for watching and the support. I appreciate it !!
Yeah but my 2010 doesn't have a sport mord option.. unless there's a button I don't know about
No buttons. I had a 2010 also. What I found is if you over inflate the tars to near maximum pressure, you just gained 10 additional mpg. I went from 21 to 31 hwy.
@@richardlong8014 for real? That's pretty crazy, how'd you figure that out?.. I just want to be rid of the shift skip, it's the worst feature any manufacturer would put on a V8+
2016 scatpack ,sport mode and it still wants you to go from one to four
That’s what I am finding out about the scat packs. Strange man. You would have thought it should. It does for the 5.7.
I have the 2016 Scatpack and it still locks me out of 2nd from time to time in sport mode. I thought something was wrong with my transmission at first lol
Works on my 5.7
But doesn't that now turn off traction control? My car is new and I haven't had time to play much but I believe so.
It doesn’t turn the traction control off. It puts it into sports traction so it will allow for a bit more wheel spin… but it would kick in if spinning got out of control or you started to slide.
Wow that is very cool that you found out you can just go to sport mode and bypass that shift. Personally I feel the skip shift eliminator is cheap enough Id still get it just to never have to think about circumventing such a stupid feature.
True on all points. It’s like a $15-$20 part. Still don’t know why it exists. There is a reason why you get a manual. Haha.
Sport mode does not prevent the skip shift on challengers made before '18 (I think, could be off slightly on the year but my '16 still locks me out of 2nd in sport mode)
Thanks for letting me know that only the latest models turns it off. I am new to Challengers and just assumed that would do the trick. Thanks again.
I was freaking out when I got my first stick shift car ever it was a scat pack and this would happen to me. I thought I was breaking the car 😫😫
I hear ya man. It’s so bizarre and it shouldn’t be a feature. We got manuals for a reason. Thanks for watching.
same thing on my '16 Scat
Ok I can say I’ve been locked out of second cause I was casually driving and it is alarming and scary when it would happen. I added the skip shift for good measure. When I drive my car I put it in sport mode and fully turn traction off by holding the button down for 10+ seconds till the dash chimes every time I drive rain or shine. Another thing I use combined with sport mode and no traction on is the pedal commander. I know you can make it super aggressive but I simply use it at a specific setting to eliminate throttle lag, that’s it. Basically making the whole system work together in my own preference. While if I have it in regular (no sport and regular traction on) I can feel a huge difference in throttle. I have a manual just like you
I will have to try the full traction off. I have pressed and held it but maybe just not long enough. The difference in throttle response between normal and sport is so huge. I can’t stand driving in normal mode. That’s really cool about the pedal commander. I feel like sometimes that between 4000-5800 rpms the systems are holding back my performance. It’s probably traction control etc. maybe I should look into that other stuff and see if that helps.
You a fan of the pedal commander with your manual? I haven’t seen any information about it with manuals.
Embarrassing I thought it was me doing horrible shifts
Can driving sports mode on highway/street etc everyday, 24 /7 hurt your car? Transmission? Thanks bud.
Does a 2012 R/T have sport mode??I just ordered one with manual trans.I just sold my Scatpack so I'm familiar with these settings
I am not entirely sure when Sport mode was added unfortunately. 2012 seems like it’s on the bubble and may not have it.
Sport mode is a lot of fun!
I had to install one. In the beginning I drove like a sane person. Now always in Sport mode I noticed my tires are wearing out unevenly. Thinner on the inside edges. Any reason for this?
I have always had that type of wear on my chargers and challengers. It’s important to rotate the tires. But look at any rear wheel drive car you will find that the tires stick out more on the outside of your car on the bottom / and lean inside towards the top. It’s all about handling and traction. I believe that’s typical.
I have an '18 scat pack and it still forces me ito 4th even with sport mode on
That’s kinda bizarre. I would imagine it should. You might need the skip shift eliminator. I have changed my driving habits a bit. Unless I am dropping the hammer I wind out first a bit longer and go to third than fifth. It’s annoying to be locked out to 4th.
@@BurnseysRT I have a 2016 Scat Pack and I swear it has happened to me in sport mode. I knew you could shift from 1st to 4th but I didn't know the computer made it mandatory within certain parameters. For $10 it's well with the peace of mind so you can drive the way you want to without thinking about the damn computer telling you how to drive.
@@braney56 I think you are correct. After reading through several comments from Scat Pack owners I have found that this will happen in sports mode. It’s weird. You would think it was out opposite from the RT.
@@BurnseysRT BTW, it only happened to me half a dozen times over the years (it's not a daily driver). and I never knew why until I saw your other video about it. I never dumped into 4th, I'd double clutch and it would then slide into second. Thanks so much for your attention to this subject. I just received my Skip Shift Eliminator in the mail today, now I have to get my old bones under the car to install it.
@@braney56 I have 2016 RT and in sport mod sometimes it will go from 1st to 4th . To stop it I drive it like a Mopar should be lol
The skip shift comes into play *if...* Your driving habits cause it to activate regularly and you don't want to adjust your driving habits accordingly so it doesn't come into play.
You have two choices *other* than switching to sport mode every time you get in the car and, it changes the throttle response, etc. and uses more fuel.
Either adjust the way you drive, shiftpoints/speed or, putin a skip shift eliminator and be able to go 1st to 4th only when*you* choose, regardless of your regular driving habits. This should be the actual content ofthis video for the purposes he made it. But a good discussion to have.
What isn't discussed is thst while you're down there putting in the device, drain the current transmission fluid which, even though "Mooar recommended," is a good part of the "notchiness" while shifting that people frequently lament. After cleaning up your mess, refill to just overflowing with *Royal Purple MAX ATF fully synthetic fluid (your 6spd Tremec uses automatic trans fluid) as this fluid is a direct replacement for Chrysler ATF+4 fluid. It will blend with the factory fluid as a top off but best performance is with full replacement. You will notice a *marked difference* in the way your transmission behaves because RP MAX ATF is a synthetic, very fibrous product which treats the synchronizers just the way they like. You can order the fluid from Amazon in a 6pack, much cheaper than by the quart though you'll only use 4 at a time. The only other thing that will improve your transmission performance beyond that is replacement of the factory shifter with an aftermarket by Barton, Hurst, B&M, etc.. (The Barton is the choice today, it would seem).
Happy shifting!! 😊
Okay... So color me an idiot. I've owned my 2015 Scat Pack 6-speed manual for about 2 years now and have never ran into that issue. I have more issues missing 6th gear (during some spirited driving) than being locked out of 2nd. I don't get any indicator to shift from 1st to 4th gear in my car. Is this something thats baked into the coding of the ECU? For reference my standard shift pattern for daily driving is: 1st, 3rd, 4th, and 6th. I rarely use 2nd & 5th gear barring some mild congestion, city traffic, passing or spirited driving. I actually got this tip for RCR (Regular Car Reviews) when they did a giveaway for a Dodge Challenger R/T with the 6-speed. This change in shift pattern may solve your issue as I found the scat packs gearing for 2nd & 3rd along with 5th & 6th gear to be too similar. But this is my 2 cents.
Hey. It’s baked into the ECU / TCM but with your shifting pattern of 1st to 3rd you’d never notice it. Not ever. After a while I felt the same as you and went from 1st to third pretty regularly. I saw someone drive like that on a UA-cam video and was like why the hell didn’t I ever think of that. The car has plenty of torque. But I would bet if you gradually wound out 1st similar to how you would if you wanted to go into 3rd and tried putting it into 2nd instead it would lock you out every now and then. It’s really kind of stupid but whatever. Thanks for your input and suggestion. I am sure it will help someone.
Great video......…...I have to have one for my Camaro as the 5th gen did not have different driving modes. So it is a must for me
Thanks allot. I totally understand. If I couldn’t turn it off with a button/drive mode I would get it too!
I have a 2014 that doesn't have sport mode. So I need the eliminator.
Ahh bummer. I did find that out after the fact. At least the eliminator is not expensive.
That's cool that sport mode disables that. My buddies 09 Challenger doesn't have sport mode so he had to install the skip shift eliminator.
Yeah I was excited. If sports mode didn’t disable it I would get one for sure. Thanks man.
Sports Mode DOES NOT disable it on the '16 Scat
Really?!? That’s crazy man. Sorry to hear that.
Nice Video! It really is a shame that we paid extra for the manual (gas guzzler tax) and they still incorporate a skip shift. I put the eliminator on just for piece of mind.
yeah man. That is crazy 100%. We get a manual for a reason. If we wanted our shifts overridden we would have gotten an automatic. How was the install on the eliminator. I may do that still some day.
@@BurnseysRT The actual install was simple. But learn from my mistake. I pulled the car up my ramps and did NOT wait long enough to let the exhaust cool down. I still have a burn mark on my hand since June.
Camaro’s dont pay the Gas Guzzler tax because of the skip shift. Unless it’s the ZL1
Probably why you don't get caught in the skip shift, because its most likely always over 25% throttle at 19+mph
True. Rarely ever do I wind out first that much and if I do I am giving it more than 25% throttle. Hahah BTW getting that SRT ?😇
3:39 Good video. Congrats on your progress, being a small UA-camr is hard. Thumbs Up 👍
Thanks man. Yes sir it is a challenge no doubt. Appreciate the support
Out of the year I’ve been driving (4,000 miles added to the car) I’ve never ever had a skip shift occur. Ever. Just now finding out about it
Well that is wonderful to hear. Probably drive it more aggressively or shift out of first quickly. It’s pretty specific when it happens. You have to gently accelerate up to like 18-20 or so in 1st and be at like 25% throttle or less. If that doesn’t happen you are good. It’s good to know it can happen Incase it happens because it does leave you wondering WTH is going on.
Be glad, it’s the stupidest thing ive ever seen. Almost been hit several times because my car will force me to go to fourth but it won’t tell me so I’m over here trying to find the gear
Will this work on a 2014 Challenger
If you have sport mode on your that might do the trick or you can install the skip shift eliminator. See link below. Thanks for watching.
www.americanmuscle.com/sr-performance-skip-shift-eliminator-0818.html
I almost got hit in an intersection when I couldnt get out of someones way because of 4th gear, after that, I said fuck everything and got the eliminator, If I want skip shifts I want it to be my perogative in any drive mode.
My problem is I don’t have sports mode lol
Ahhh. Gotcha yeah than the eliminator is almost a must have then. At least it’s cheap.
Well some of us dont have sport mode, so, skip shift eliminater it is.
Yes sir. When I made this video to didn’t realize it doesn’t come on all years. Only starting in 2015 PT whatever.
"Sports mode."😁
Absolutely!!!!
I would still buy it anyway tbh it’s only 18$
Yeah I would agree. It’s a great inexpensive part no doubt
It's for automatic transmission only
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Is your wife’s name Karen?
Its 20 bucks fuck it lol
Haha. So true. Now that I have some time on my hands maybe I’ll get one ; )