Well There's Your Problem | Episode 76: The Halifax Explosion
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- Опубліковано 14 лип 2024
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Chapters (Provided by user Mickulty)
0:00:00 Intro
0:06:09 The GD News: Yacht-Train Designer Unfamiliar With Trains?
0:12:58 Background: Halifax as Not A Meth Capital
0:15:05 Background: Halifax as a Port
0:24:55 Background: WW1
0:28:56 Background: Privateering
0:33:54 Background: Cruiser Rules, U-boats and Q-boats
0:40:12 Background: Halifax in WW1
0:41:35 The SS Mont-Blanc and her Nasty Cargo
0:44:38 The SS Imo and her Offset Propeller
0:47:04 Honk Honk Donk
0:54:46 Consequences of Spilling Benzol and Making Sparks
1:02:32 Aftermath and Incidental Genocides
1:15:00 Safety Third: 60s Brit Buses in California - Наука та технологія
"If you're a TERF I will happily change your pronouns to was and were." He's done it. He's made a pronouns joke that was actually funny.
Only the S.S. _Montblanc_ can reduce an entire port to a soup-like homogenate in under 30 seconds.
The forbidden tomato bisque
"Most ship captains expect to go down with their ship. Ammo ship captains expect to go up with their ship."
😂😂
And horny seamen go down on their ship...mates
imagine if you lost your legs privateering and you just got to halifax yesterday
and then it fucking explodes
Imagine not even getting any american gold
You cried some tears.
You would be able gloat at how no one else could outrun the shock wave front either.
God damn it all.
Well you’d be saying farewell to Nova Scotia at that point.
"hold up the train, ammunition ship afire in harbor making for pier 6 and will explode. guess this will be my last message, goodbye boys"
real hero shit there
I concur.
#legendaryguts
7:35 a return to Roz reading a list of amenities and features as Liam and Alice yell at him
Almost as good as the patented "YES"
"Snowpiercer makes the snow" Justin you're thinking of the Coors Light party train.
It's getting [cold] in here, so [cold], so [put on] all your clothes.
AND TWINS????
People turn blue when they're cold enough to eat
Yeah, and it turns the mountains near it blue when it is cold enough for a beer.
I’M THE MAN ON THE SILVER MOUNTAIN
My opinion on werid pizzas can be summarized with the onion article "researchers at Domino's pizza institute researching the limits of what a human can eat"
I still wish the Japanese pigs in a blanket pizza had made it to the US. Sounds like something the US would do, not Japan.
Eventually, there will be a bonus episode on Alice's digestive system
Well there's your problem: Alice's toilet explosion
The episode of that week will be on MBS, the bonus episode on IBS.
Bonus Episode: Cuisine in the United Kingdom
i think that is a shake hands with danger episode :P
@@blackvulture6818 *Alice's Soundboard Drop*: Boom Goes the Dynamite!
And this was written on the subway walls: "yay allice"
"Ahhh nahh nahh naah na na naaahhhhh, Hey Aliiiice!"
@@semirrahge I was thinking Rush,you went Beatles, cheers
@@flattblackcopper4558 Not Simon and Garfunkel?
Fuck yeah, on my lunch break from arranging documents for a coroner's investigation atm, love taking a break from death stuff by listening to more death stuff. It's a slightly different brand of death, like the difference between spearmint and peppermint. Subtle, but the difference is significant.
Variety is the spice of life. Nuance is the spice of death.
can't wait to stop looking at bad death stuff on bad screen, go home and look at good death stuff on good screen
It's a really big difference when you accidentally sub peppermint for spearmint in something meant to be savory, hoo boy
It's like when I came home from my delivery job to play death stranding
Rigid mortice versus rigor mortis.
1:12:50 Old joke: “Why did the British stop making computers? They couldn’t figure out how to get them to leak oil.”
Ooooh that's a good one
@@DAFLIDMAN Source: a porsche mechanic
@@jamiehardt3061 thanks 👍
Modern technology has the solution to that: hardline liquid cooling. Probably would need to get creative with the coolant, but it’s doable.
It's not "Mic Mac", for Mi'kmaq, at 17:54, while we're all here learning together. More like "mee-g'mahk. The "q" makes a guttural sound not a hard c sound, and the "k" is closer to a g.
this comment should be pinned
@AdBlock Plus there's been a few exceptions
Mee-g'mahk sounds suspiciously Klingon.
I just realised Alice is using the censorship beep to do the Morse code and I'm a big fan
@Stout Protagonist it's either "LOL" or "WTYP", depending on where you're up to in the episode.
Source: she says it out loud
Windsor is indeed the meth capital of Canada but only because our cops do it constantly before throwing drunks down stairs.
Yank tossing?
@@markwilliams2620 can't let drunk 19 year old Americans have a good time
You know you got good meth when even your cops are doing it.
@@Ultrawup There is no such thing as good meth
Dudes rock!
“Ok, I’m die. Thank you forever.” - Korone Inugami’s last known telegram before death by explosion, Halifax, 1917
Did not think I would see a Hololive reference here, but here we are.
jesus christ I just about laughed at an embarrassing volume in the office
yubi-yuBLAM
WTYP Hololive bonus episode when
@@SivakAurak Well There's Your Pornblem
"I guess this'll be my last message. Goodbye boys."
*Fuck,* I can't even imagine. Just knowing you're about to die and having just enough time to keep others from entering the same fate, your last words etched forever...
I cannot get over the render of the train running on a single track laid on 2 inches of gravel directly on sand dunes....
The shifting tracks
@@BarackLesnar help, a sharp gust of wind has misaligned the tracks and derailed my land yacht
@@Tuxfanturnip just keep at it you'll learn to surf
Me, fresh from trip to the seaside, where I have seen how fast dunes in Europe can move:
This train is going to stuck in sand, fast and firm.
"If you don't like it, there isn't the door"
I laughed for two solid minutes
1:25:02
For those looking
looking forward to the JRPG starring Liam, and his noble quest to destroy the entire island of Britain
Liam would be a paladin.
@@halfpintrr *extremely weird nerd fixation activates* paladin is a dumb idea for a character class because the idea of being a chivalric knight was that ALL of them were like this to some extent! to be good enough at fighting and also have enough money to have a suit of armor meant you HAD to be blessed by god in some way, and also the rest of the knightly class went to some effort to preserve that mysticism to pretend they were in some way distinguishable from a brigand who got his hands on a set of chainmail and a good helmet. as such the idea of "warrior" and "paladin" being disjoint is a weird function of gary gygax just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what stuck!
liam's character class in the JRPG is, inexplicably, diplomat. the fact that all his combat skills involve screaming and punching someone is no doubt some kind of high-level gag that does not translate well.
Fun fact: because of this disaster, each public brodcast of Shaggy's Mr. Boombastic in Canada is followed by a moment of silence.
2 Halifax 2 Furious: You can blow up our city again, but you'll never blow up our family
For reference, the Mt. St. Helens volcanic explosion was estimated about 24 megatons. If anyone was interested. Which you're probably not. :D
I totally am .. that's the one I wondered about!
Clearly you don't know the audience you're commenting at. 😝🍍
About half the energy released by the Tsar Bomb and roughly a thousand times the energy released by the Trinity tests.
I'm late, but I was interested
Yay Liam!
Yay Alice!
Yay Roz!
Yay Joe!
Yay making TERFs having a good time!
Have to drive 90 minutes for work this morning so perfect timing, thanks :)
Edit: strongly considering rescinding Alice’s Yay because of that travesty of a pizza 🤨
I thought she meant chips in the British way, but sounds like they're crispy DX
Also awesome timing by Liam, forcing out "I Hope TERFS Have A Nice Time" before becoming audibly ill. Just beautiful o7
@@Rolan7196 chips on pizza is heresy, American or British :)
Don't blame the pizza on Alice she didn't invent it she just ordered it
@@eclipserepeater2466 First thing on the menu, blitzed out her mind. Mood
yay for sending TERFs a present on international friend day
the q-boat: call an amubulance!
the q-boat, whipping out guns: bUT NOT FOR ME
My Grandfather's brother was blinded by this explosion. My great grandparents moved to Boston in 1925 due to the aid the city sent to Halifax. My grandfather was born 3 months later.
Also…fun fact. The Weeknd made a song about this 😂
Q boat: "Call an ambulance! But not for me."
The final explosion at Krakatoa was estimated to be worth 200 megatonnes. Human engineering disasters are still on the level of a damp squib. But give us time, we are the primates that try harder.
The Tsar Bomba was capable of 50 megatonnes, we're getting there
@@LordMangudai ISTR the Tsar Bomb was also a 50% scaled-down demonstrator of what they were actually planning to mass produce.
Don't you feel glad that we are climate primates and not boom baboons?
@@d3nza482 the Brutes in halo are the Boom Baboons. They had recently nuked themselves back into a preindustrial environment when the Covenant met them. That was less than 30 years before the war between the Covenant and humanity erupted, so there were definitely Brites who went from figuring out how radios work again to flying in giant purple space ships.
Tartarus, the big boss guy in Halo 2, was a year old at contact with the Covenant.
When this show first started I was mildly annoyed by 45 minute episodes. Now I'm mildly annoyed when they aren't two and a half hours.
Similarly, I continue to put off the lengthier ones but after starting one, it's not nearly long enough. 😝🍍
"And the ships pass port to port"
Ah, the direction the Imo, which is speeding and has no rudder control, drifts. I wonder what could possibly go wrong
They had spark-gap radios during WW1. They didn't actually work on any specific frequency, they basically just made electric noise which was used to send Morse Code. This was the early days of amplification so the signals had limited range and required huge antennas to receive. Also, the fact that there was no frequency made them easy to jamb by just broadcasting noise. (Pedantic engagement is still engagement!)
That's really cool.
I don't wanna hear ANYTHING about Hawaiian after hearing about Alice's Pizza.
Comparing size to volcanic explosions - the Mount St. Helens eruption in 1980 was somewhere in the range of 26 megatons.
Also, that eruption, while a totally natural disaster, could be a valid subject for the podcast - at the time, large parts of the mountain were owned by a railroad company.
Krakatoa's 1883 eruption climaxed with four huge explosions, the third alone had a yield of 200 megatons.
Shout out to my high school English teacher for 2 years, and the class discussion of “don’t commit suicide, join the Merchant Marines”. That has been my mantra going forward in life and if the last decade is anything to go by, it seems to be working??
You have so much life worth living. Don't join the Merchant Marines!
Other local fun fact: we left a lot of boat chunks where they were or cast them and added plaques to them. We have a few parks that are located based on where boat pieces landed.
Okay that rules
@@BarackLesnar still the biggest non nuclear explosion in a populated area. I guess between WW1 and nukes being dropped large explosions were measured in fractions of a "Halifax"
After hearing about the pizza I’d like to extend my sincerest apologies for criticizing Alice for stealing land from indigenous britons to create a no go zone. That was actually the right thing to do, and frankly we should turn London into the Gaza Strip to contain them.
Seal off York, turn it into the next Kowloon Walled City
@@lukewest7216 but York has a nice train museum. I’m thinking Liverpool
I didn't know that Canadians celebrate international friend's day too
They have to otherwise it would be i(n - 1)ternational friends day.
In Canada, every day is international friends day.
@@AlanCanon2222 I'm gonna throw my TI-89 at you for that joke
@@Myrea_Rend I'm glad you didn't say HP-25 because that would only make sense on Reverse Polish Ternational Da...you know what? Never mind.
Weren't the Belgians technically celebrating this time?
Thoughts:
Justin is going to get a lot of flack over the Lusitania.
Those relief tents at 1:08:30 are almost identical to the tents the Canadian Army uses in the winter to this day. Some things never change.
It's also very dark that the Canadian National Institute for the Blind was born out of a mass casualty event, but thems the breaks I guess
Oh my god they ARE the same kind of tents too
I live in Halifax, a WTYP episode about it with Joe Kassabian is about a good of a notification as I could have gotten!
I am literally looking at the Harbour where the ships blew up right now
To this day you still have to be careful digging around the basin because you might find un-exploded munitions, some from the explosion, others from the navy "testing" wherever they felt like it. There's a couple of companies doing bomb disposal based out of Halifax.
Christ, Alice’s pizza sounds like the kind of thing you eat exactly once on a dare.
Well, I ate a Cabeza (brain) burrito during the Mad Cow Scare as a teenager and I'm still waiting for the consequences.
@@bynrdskynrd Glad you dodged that bullet. Creutzfeld-Jakob is no joke.
Can't tell yet if they dodged the bullet... the symptoms can take decades to show up
Hiroshima didn't burn shadows into the concrete, it left reverse shadows of white and burned everything else. The outlines of people are pristine in the char.
No, this is incorrect.
This may or may not be correct.
KILL ME
Hooray! My favorite new found podcast is back!
Though I am a little disappointed this isn't about the Tacoma Narrows Bridge disaster that was promised last episode. I hope that isn't some kind of running gag.
Also, as a Canadian, you're welcome for all the content.
Don’t worry, the Tacoma Narrows Bridge disaster will always be the next episode
I too am looking forward to the next episode that will definitely be about the Tacoma Narrows Bridge.
Every other episode is about Tacoma Narrows. The last episode was about Tacoma and the next episode will be about Tacoma but never this episode.
See bridge. Bridge go sine wave. Wave bridge, wave. It would be a real problem if this bridge were in a part of the US that gets prolonged windstorms with gusts in excess of 60 miles per hour! Good thing we built this in Tacoma, where that _never_ happens!
Ohshit, we just lost a tr- and there it goes... Huh, maybe we _should_ have made it more rigid.
@@CassandraForAGlobalTroy Also, scared dog bite human. F for Tubby; at least he's with Mothman now. 🌉🚘🐶🍍
My great grandparents were on the Lusitania, and their son despised all submariners for the rest of his life
My parents were victims of the Wawa Gobbler. Show some goddam respect, please.
People are fascinated by impending doom. I worked in a building with many process chemicals, including 1A cylinders of 100% silane stored at the top of a building. Silane combusts spontaneously in air. There was a leaky valve that caused a lovely plume of white smoke from the raging fire. I walked around a corner to see a corridor of people pressed against the large plate glass windows , viewing the plume. I retreated , called the oblivious safety department and pointed out that such fires have been known to result in explosions, and, if they didn’t close the corridor they had a potentially massive human toll. Fortunately they closed the corridor and the silane did not explode.
As a native Haligonian I HIGHLY enjoyed y'all's take on this tale. Great episode folks!
Turtle Grove (Mi'kmaq village) was on the Dartmouth side.
"Now I'm a broken man on a Halifax pier
The last of Barrett's Privateers"
If I were an old timey naval captain blockaded by an enemy I would simply leave (at night)
Good timing, seeing that a house exploded about a town away from me just yesterday.
It shook the roof of the Home Depot I work at.
Have they stated the cause of the explosion yet or is it still under investigation?
@@NUFIGHTER I think it’s still under investigation, but it’s looking like a gas leak.
@@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick Seems like gas leaks are this century's neighborhood-wide fires. That and hash oil and meth explosions. Hopefully not too many people were injured or killed.
@@NUFIGHTER Just the one…
@@NUFIGHTER You forgot Gender Reveal Parties...
I wish I could, too...
2:45 HEAVILY underrated move by Justin there, speaking about high-velocity explosions after Liam's... moment.
It warms my heart when y'all talk about my hometown, Edmonton. Funfact: during the pandemic lockdown meth use went up substantially because it was hard to get opioids.
nice
Clearly I paid less attention to local happenings than usual during the pandemic, for this is news to me, a fellow Edmontonian.😮🍍
I never thought there was a distinction between 'Devestation' and 'Complete Destruction' until now. This podcast is truly educational!
You guys are literally the only other place then the local tours mention that Bermuda was a Naval base. Life is weird.
Got through a whole episode with Joe without any Soviet Anthem drops.
The fact there's no Nova Scotians in the comments reciting the lyrics to Barret's Privateers actually makes me a bit sad.
You ok, Canada?
it's called a Canadian Roll Call - go into a public space where you expect some Canadians to be, then sing "OH, THE YEAR WAS SEVENTEEN SEVENTY-EIGHT" and see how many folks instinctively reply
I can't believe they got through a whole segment on privateers without mentioning it themselves. There's a previous episode where they all sing Northwest Passage so there's no way they don't know the song.
@@yanbourke there's a previous episode where they make direct reference to Barret's Privateers
I've never actually watched the Heritage Minute on this and I'm genuinely curious how you boil this down (much like some of the victims) into something palatable as a children's educational thing.
historicacanada.ca/content/heritage-minutes/halifax-explosion
They focus on the train dispatcher Vince Coleman, who is trying to stop a train that was heading DIRECTLY TOWARDS WHERE THE EXPLOSION HAPPENED. The Explosion happens after Coleman gets a reply from the train, which stopped. It fades to grey as the explosion happens, then shows the aftermath of the explosion.
The answer to the volcano thing is that volcanoes are ranked on the VEI (Volcano Explosive Index) which is measured by volume of ash erupted. VEI 0 is what most of Mona Loa's eruptions are: oozing basalt. VEI 8 is a supervolcano like yellowstone's big eruptions. The Halifax explosion with less than 10,000 m^3 ejecta would be considered VEI 0 but if you considered the smoke plume rather than the volume of ejecta it may make it all the way to VEI 3. EDIT: If you consider the water as ejecta it might count as VEI 1.
Nice
Blackwater Pirates is the most depressing Pirates of Dark Water spinoff
As a haligonian I have been waiting for this!!!!!!! Let's goooooooooo!!!!
Such a weird demonym...I'd call y'all the "Halifaxionistas".
How the hell haven't you blown up yet?
I love Liam's energy of I 'will fight all the haters'.
Dundee is actually pretty cool for old and pretty important ships. You've got the RRS Discovery and the HMS Unicorn. You've also got a ton of poverty and a depressing vibe, but I'll still rep my closest city
Oh, and technically Roz, the AEC RT was the predecessor to the Routemaster. Not a knockoff
DUNDEEEEEEE
MIGHTY CITY ON THE BANKS OF THE SILV’RY TAY
when you capture a warship from another nation you don;t chnage the name as it's mere name is constant troll of the other side.
i think thats how a few names got on the royal navy's list-
im about 98% sure that the original HMS Temeraire was a prize....
Also at the time it was considered bad luck, so they only changed ship names if they already had one in the service.
Your podcast should be accredited in every history curriculum in Canada, USA, & UK. Task the regular teacher to find something useful...like a personality,and a deeper understanding of history, and the kids would end up as deeply in love with history as your crew has. You and your irreverent sidekicks prove history is exciting , and can flourish in the real world amid great laughs and shared witticisms. Your podcast title roped me in, but it was worth every minute. Thanks❣️
that telegraph guy is a god
RIP Patrick Vincent Coleman, "He Never Logged Off"
"I wanted to get blown up but instead I'm doing something safe."
"Why not do both?"
That's just being a destroyer. Those ships are either punching above their weight in battles they have no business being in or hunting/scaring away submarines
Critical support to Alice in these tough times.
emphasis on critical
Alice is eating the H.M.S. Duke de Lyon of pizzas
The Stupid Snowpiercer picture showing it cruising through the desert also pretty strongly implies that the intended customer is MBS and the like, who will make up whatever rules needed to get their luxury train onto their country's rails.
Holy shit they remembered to make a podcast this week
Two! Two podcasts! We're spoilt.
Two! Two podcasts! A-haha.
J.P. Jones was Navy not Privateer (the Continental navy had a hard time getting recruits because its shares of prizes weren't as generous as privateers'. As to why he went to work for the Russians.. A. Post Revolution, there really was no Navy, B. Jones argued with EVERYONE, aside from a core of loyalists, he was usual at odds with the rest of his crew, let alone the navy.
One reason Navy types hated convoys was what you saw in harbor. Keeping merchant ships in formation was like herding cats.
Q ships generally had a hold full of empty barrels or soft wood (so they wouldn't sink easily. They also had a "panic party", a team whose job it was to make a mess of getting into the lifeboats and getting clear (to give the guns longer to line up their shot). Some even had crew wearing dresses to imitate passengers, and/or carrying baby dolls..
I wish I could leave the church of TERF island every day, but they keep volunteer Bazza border guards on patrol.
I appreciate that the train designer had enough self-awareness to make the render just a track running through the middle of sand dunes, cause you know if this was ever actually made it would be a gulf fail-son who would also just build a private loop of track to ride around on.
stan rogers may or may not have done a Halifax song but The Longest Johns sure did!!! Look up Fire and Flames
"If you don't like it, there isn't the door"
Fucking perfect.
55:23 you know shit is about to get down when the story starts getting into a minute-by-minute recounting of events...
You would think there would have been a horn for "I will fucking explode if you don't get out of my way!"
[frantic, unceasing honking] [everyone on deck running around like chickens-minus-heads]
I've had some _wild_ pizzas, from Buffalo Chicken to Caesar Salad to BBQ to Mexican Style. They've been delicious.
Alice's pizza does not sound good.
Edit to make the TERFs mad: she/her
I once ordered some kind of 'artisan' chicken alfredo pizza from Dominos. I was very drunk and high at the time and it was disgusting: totally soggy from the white sauce and the grease has already started to separate...
Alice's pizza sounds similar.
Replied about it already, but I was extremely hooked on falafel pizza, right before COVID put the brakes on that (pizza joint was outside of town, wasn't going out there anymore)
Yeah, if you're gonna do potato on pizza do something like the Boston Pizza Spicy Perogy pizza (note: not actually that spicy).
There’s a pizza place by me that has pizzas inspired by Indian dishes. It’s delicious
I'm still a chicken bacon ranch pizza apologist, tbh
"Perpetual manspread to avoid bumping into the wheel". Sounds like my first car (Peugeot 205)
"Getting on was tough but getting off was fun." "Really Alice, REALLY?"
Tacoma Narrows Bridge collapse Epsisode coming up next?
Looking forward to that, sounds interesting.
It's coming next week, really.
@@grahamrichardson9620 Little did we know that the "Tacoma Narrows Bridge disaster episode" has always been the code name for fusion power generation.
i was too but ... idk to be honest i'm begining to think its a con to keep up coming back
Yup, for real this time. I'm certain.
@@AnodicCasserole
Tacoma? Tokamak? It's not far off.
didn't know you could fight terfs with slides, gonna have to remember that
A letter of mark you say? From the King? To the skummiest vessel I've ever seen? Goddamn you all!!
I'm actually dry heaving within the first 30 seconds. Gonna be a good one.
...did Stan Rogers do a Halifax Explosion song? The only one I know of is Fire & Flame by The Longest Johns.
That snowpiercer train might run on EU tracks, they allow any train with a safety clearance… though said clearance might be an issue…
Imagine being a janitor and you're just at work one day and you get buried alive because of some guy breaking the speed limit in a freighter.
Justin's "STOP." at 1:14 was so strong it disconnected my Bluetooth earbuds
And here I thought this would be about the explosive rise and fall of mid-2000s moderately obscure emo rock band "Halifax".
Their genre is SS Emo
Thank you for covering the worst thing to happen to my hometown (aside from the Cogswell Interchange) and I am so glad i've found your podcast!
"Halifax is in Nova Scotia, which is in Canada, which is on earth, which is in Canada."
Alice's pizza reminds me of a pizza served in a few places in Northern Sweden: the Calskrove. It's a Calzone with a burger meal, complete with fries, baked into it.
Fun Fact; the Great Slave Lake is actually named after the Slavey people, an indigenous group from that region of Canada, and has nothing whatsoever to do with Slavery, which is nice
I wish they'd covered the (possibly apocryphal) story of one of the Monte Blanc crewmen saving a mother and her baby. When the crew came ashore, they were yelling (presumably in French) at everyone who had gathered to watch the ship burning to evacuate. One of them was a First Nations woman who lived nearby, holding her baby. They tried to communicate (again, presumably in very rapid and panicked French) the danger her and her baby were in, but eventually just *_snatched the child out of her arms and kept running._* As any mother would do, she of course chased after them; reportedly, both her and her baby were the only bystanders in the area who survived
You are right about the language. The Mont-Blanc was a ship from France. The only member of the crew who could speak English, aside from the harbor pilot, was Captain LeMedec.
Hell yeah let's go
I fucking love this podcast.
18:00 "They fucked up the first nations there called the 'mick mack' " The pronunciation is so wrong but I'll let it slide because this is an episode I've been hoping for..
How would you spell it in reality, if I would like to learn about the first nations?
@@Improbabilities phonetically/out loud - "Mig Maw"
Mick Mack is a fine enough way to pronounce Mik'maq, but Justin made it sound like meek mack...
before the explosion killed all the sailors on the Halifax piers, their last thought was "how I wish I was in Sherbrooke now"
They kept the old french names on boats not to save on paint, or effort, but because its 'bad luck' to rename a ship... Or so I have always been told.