They pay for targeted ads to preach to people they think need their message the most. UA-cam classifies atheist content as religious so we get them more often.
“Religious apologists complain bitterly that Atheists and Secularists are aggressive and hostile in their criticism of them. I always say: look, when you guys were in charge, you didn’t argue with us, you just burnt us at the stake. Now what we’re doing is, we’re presenting you with some arguments and some challenging questions, and you complain.” - A.C. Grayling
@@SpaceCattttt That would be a Generic Fallacy. It doesn't matter whether or not we like the source of a claim or endorse all of the values of the claimant. What matters is whether the claim can be reasonably justified.
Hasn't most social progress been made in spite of religion trying to squash it? The caller seems to think that religion has been the cause of progress and not one of its biggest enemies.
Yeah, and technological progress, medical progress, scientific progress etc.. The more we know and can prove about how things really work the more the dogmas fall apart.
A lot of religious people were also behind social progress, but they were also opposed by religious people a lot of the time. Mostly because religion can be used to argue whatever perspective you want.
@Jinja071 I got attacked by a demon in 2016. It was a case of demonic oppression. I went to several doctors and a psychologist and it had no natural cause. Christianity is true!
I'm triggered by "fake progressivism." There are lot of Americans who play at being a progressive, while not knowing much of anything about progressive policies, history, or the status quo. Even worse, there are politicians who have played at being a progressive, and they've successfully manipulated a lot of fake progressives. And don't get me started on the fake leftists who claim that they're going to conduct a violent revolution (against our massive, technologically-advanced military and our law enforcement agencies, while not even bothering to leave their home to vote or bothering to send in a mail-in ballot.
To be clear, I don't support claims of violent revolution in the U.S. from anyone. But it bothers me more when they come from privileged people who don't even do the bare minimum to try to effect positive change.
How did he admit the truth in the end? He destroyed his credibility in the end by saying "I hope other inventors of their own god will recognize what they're doing, meanwhile I don't follow what I don't think is right _however_ I'll vote whatever my church tells me. (Even though I'm a progressive and I don't follow every jot and tittle of Catholicism, and btw no one of any religion does unless they live in a theocracy!)" Lordy what a confused individual that guy was.
I was once a Catholic like this guy. It was a brief period as I was deconstructing my faith out of extreme right wing Catholicism, but the more important transition was away from authoritarianism. I eventually stopped thinking that the desires of the Pope and other leaders mattered more than actually thinking through a problem, and without recognized authority the church leaders are just a bunch of guys in robes. Maybe one day this guy will also be thinking for himself instead of hanging on the word of another. It only takes one pope manipulative enough to sway their minds in a worse way.
Yes the stance on birth control has been harmful especially for African countries. The stance on abortion has been quite harmful for desperate young ladies who cannot care for a future child. The stance on male-only control of the church, on celibacy, on infallibility of the pope; a secular humanism worldview leads to better outcomes all around.
@@Nocturnalux Its harmful to basically everyone, but I'd actually argue that its most harmful to the kids who would otherwise be aborted. There are any number of reasons for why a person might seek an abortion, but regardless of the reason, its because they dont want the child. That might be for selfish reasons, basically using the procedure as a form of birth control (which is EXTREMELY shitty), or it might be because the Mother is mentally or financially unable to care for the child or hell, it might be because the child was a result of rape. Regardless of the reason, if someone wants to abort but cant, that child WILL suffer. Whether its from a resentful parent or due to the family simply not having the financial stability to allow for a happy childhood, it doesnt matter, at the end of the day, it would be better to end the pregnancy so that no one suffers. And, of course, these people are almost always also against any form of governmental assistances, leaving the children they 'saved' in horrible situations and sitting back in their comfortably armchairs, sipping expensive wine and feeling oh so satisfied with themselves for having saved some unborn childs life and ignoring them starving and shivering in the gutter. And that also completely ignores the other reason why the procedure might be needed to SAVE the life of the mother. Because the childs life matters more than the Mothers, right up until they are born and then these dipshits could not give one single solitary toss about them.
@@marcusreading3783 My religion teacher told me, grade 9 me, that if I became pregnant and it as non-viable but the pregnancy was sure to result in my death, I should let myself die. As for abortion as birth control being shitty, I don’t see the problem. It’s a clump of cells. The one carrying it disposes it as they see fit. If anything, it can harm the person if done repeatedly but it’s their call.
@@Nocturnalux Christian love everyone! There are far better, safer and generally more effective methods available, so I generally feel like if someones doing that, they should be given some proper education into whats available. It also takes up the time of health care professionals who could be doing other things for people who ACTUALLY need their help, rather than messing around with people who would be better served with a condom
That was precisely the thought I had when he said that. After all, the interpretation of a religious experience is wholly intuitive. Even Catholic mystics have to resort to intuition in order to expound upon their "experiences" as they have no logical foundation on which to base such.
@@darkstar4494 *"You’re confounding intuition with a real emotional experience"* No. He isn't. He doesn't even (at least not in his post) doubt they had a "real emotional experiences." The point OP is highlighting is the _method_ Andrew has used to confirm/conclude _what_ that "real emotional experience" actually was. And that, in this case, seems to have been intuition.
I don't think I've ever seen a caller fail so significantly, so thoroughly, and so often the way Andrew has. Every one of his points is such an obviously easy point to address and debunk, that it's beyond embarrassing. The only caller I think has worse arguments is Christian... Now that guy is unbeatable in his inability to think.
This whole conversation, but especially the last few minutes, is a masterclass on cognitive dissonance. This has to be one of my favorite segments. The way Jimmy brought it back around d to his question about voting against your conscience because of your religion by asking him the question about the Pope directing his vote was genius. Love you guys!!
its either him taking notes through the call. or its some sort of script he put together with answers and what he wanted to say. i would guess the latter. who knows, maybe he got hired by some apologist😂
We havta remember the dum think everyone thinks like they do, cuz they can't think like we do. And fanatics & maga it's just hate being laughed at, but they sure won't stop running up to microphones & calling in.
Can't thank you enough, Jimmy Snow, for standing up for queers like me. Took a lifetime to come to the same conclusions a rational mind would arrive at, if not for millennia of indoctrination. Listening to you is that proverbial breath of fresh air.
Then why is it that when humans were more religious in the past and in the most religious cultures today we were and are more immoral, more irrational, significantly less intelligent and illiterate, and by far more inhumane, cruel and barbaric?
@@flying_spaghettimonster Been working on this in the realm of politics and religion deconversion for ten years at least now and I am still not used to it. I'm just not.
@@totonow6955 I'm in the same boat, no matter how many people you get through to, there's still an ocean of the same tired old arguments that have never held water. Just keep paddling for future generations.
Andrew, come on over to St. Tammany Parish, the most conservative county in Louisiana, and see if your ideas on this subject fly. I think it will be an extremely eye-opening experience for you.
Is this an equivalence to what I just heard? "I would never do anything against my moral compass unless a crime boss, who has never met me, in another country tells me to."
Andrew was a classic example of someone who doesn't know the difference between the fact that Christianity exists and whether Christianity is true. Just because Christianity has a long history, doesnt make it true. Just makes it wrong for a very long time. I heard a lot of crickets in that discussion.
That's what I tend to believe, in the lack of any evidence whatsoever that any gods exist, Occam's Razor says that the most likely explanation is that all gods were invented by human imagination.
It’s not illegal for a nonprofit to tell people to vote based on certain issues. If it were, good people like FFRF can’t be nonprofits. What the church can’t do is tell you which candidate for whom to vote.
@@Leith_Crowther yeah, and the Catholic Church says vote pro life, let’s not pretend we don’t know what that coded language means. They shouldn’t say VOTE for anything in particular. It should be Vote. The end. But it’s not. Don’t be so damn precious.
@@trishayamada807Is it your position that even the more noble sort of nonprofit should lose the ability to push for votes just so churches lose it, too?
Regarding how, shall we call it stricter, Christianity is actually affecting 'secular' US law. A judge in Alabama, conferring personhood on frozen embryos, literally wrote in his decision about the wrath of God. Where is Andrew living, and what brand of blinders is he wearing?
I remember the punchline of Robert Heinlein’s “Stranger in a Strange Land” was “Thou art god.” I always felt that this means that we create god in our own image and likeness, and that everyone else is wrong.
That's the main idea. You either create your own god, your god comports with some one else's idea of god and you join them or you follow. No matter what, everyone does make their own version of god and interpretation of that that god says, wants, etc.
..., yet no one can prove that Jesus or God has physically appeared to them or audibly communicated with them. What an odd and unusual coincidence that an all-powerful God can't both to directly interact with us for even 1 minute out of our entire lives.
Quite honestly, I've never seen Jesse on this channel and I found myself forgetting about the conversation and marveling at how handsome and fit he is 😅😁
@@Digital_David You're right, even if these people are telling the truth, their personal experiences don't help me at all. It's strange how God and Jesus never appear to anyone who don't already believe in them.
When Jimmy is saying that the Mormon church is the richest religious organization, you can see Matt squirming around wanting to blurt out "the Vatican".
Tbh there's nothing funnier than the excuses theists cook up to try and reconcile the two fundamentally incompatible propositions that God loves all of us and wants a relationship with us and that God just can't be bothered to show up in a way that doesn't rely on just blindly believing a book or a prophet.
It amazes me that Christians consider God to be a universal truth, I've been hard pressed to get an 80% consistent description of God from all the Christians I've asked.
Most American Catholics *do* vote for gay marriage and for abortion access. While they're mostly voting for left wing economics (as much as we have it in the US) , polling shows over 50% support from Catholics on the abortion and gay rights issues themselves.. I'm not going to defend their reasons for their religiosity, but I look at catholics as allies in the fight against evangelicals. If you've seen any of the MOUNTAIN of anti-catholic propaganda from them on tiktok, they know "they're next".
it's been awhile since I have heard this call, he is delusional and is clearly making up his own religion taking the good bits and ignoring all the bad garbage in the bible. He has no clue about other religions.
There are three kinds of religions: inclusive, exclusive and aloof. Inclusive religions are usually not monotheistic, and will happily add another god to their pantheons (that explains the madness of Ancient Egyptian and current Hindu pantheons: the amalgamated other gods as they annexed territories). People are free to pay lip service and mostly left alone if they do not make waves (Narendra Mohdi's intolerance is rather odd in that context). Exclusive religions are usually monotheistic. Their god is a kind of tribal chief demanding mad about protocol and etiquette, and demanding absolute loyalty as if being in a constant state of war. Muslims, Christians. They view the world in imperialistic terms and want to conquer it (proselytism). Their god loves all humans, but they tend to define humans deserving of love as people who belong to their religion. Then, the aloof monotheists who want to mind their own business, to be left alone: Yazidi/Mazdaans/To some extent, Jews (nowadays). They are exclusive but not imperialistic. They want peace. The only religion that makes sense is in fact animism. The notion that everything on earth has some sort of soul, aura, power is not incompatible with science XD
Does feeling an overwhelming presence while taking communion convince him that God exists, or more likely, does his religious beliefs make him think that he's feeling an overwhelming presence? Or possibly both...
"It seems that so many people have been beaten into theistic puddles of broken confusion that religion has become a huge "easy bake oven" for them that turns out "food for thought" that has been burnt and distorted into unrecognizable drool." "Delusional is not a survival strategy"
Anybody have the link to the recent debate between Matt and the Muslim fellow that Matt mentions? I looked up links that show that Matt has had many such debates. But since the present video was posted two days ago, and Matt mentions "the other day", I'm not sure which one he's talking about.
I have to stop watching the atheist channels because, for some reason, all my youtube adds are about finding Jesus. It's bizarre.
That's good. It means christian superstitionists are helping fund this content.
They pay for targeted ads to preach to people they think need their message the most. UA-cam classifies atheist content as religious so we get them more often.
I constantly get prager u and trump ads. I hate both of them.
The god squad have paid for targetted ads 😂😂😂
I think it's a good thing they're wasting money on ads that won't work
“Religious apologists complain bitterly that Atheists and Secularists are aggressive and hostile in their criticism of them. I always say: look, when you guys were in charge, you didn’t argue with us, you just burnt us at the stake. Now what we’re doing is, we’re presenting you with some arguments and some challenging questions, and you complain.” - A.C. Grayling
If your belief system can't withstand criticism then what's it worth?
Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
Emerson was deeply religious. Maybe not the best source to quote?
@@SpaceCattttt still relevant
@@mattayres9748 Not to Atheists.
@@SpaceCattttt I'm an atheist and I found it relevant ! 😀
@@SpaceCattttt
That would be a Generic Fallacy.
It doesn't matter whether or not we like the source of a claim or endorse all of the values of the claimant.
What matters is whether the claim can be reasonably justified.
Hasn't most social progress been made in spite of religion trying to squash it? The caller seems to think that religion has been the cause of progress and not one of its biggest enemies.
Yea exactly . He’s in his own world
Yeah, and technological progress, medical progress, scientific progress etc..
The more we know and can prove about how things really work the more the dogmas fall apart.
I just like to say "Galileo" to that whole argument.
A lot of religious people were also behind social progress, but they were also opposed by religious people a lot of the time. Mostly because religion can be used to argue whatever perspective you want.
"You're not being persecuted, you're just wrong."
-Matt Dillahunty, 2023
As if he knows the truth. 😅😅😅
@@brianw.5230 well what is the truth?
@@SamD.Coffey Christianity!
(I'm an ex-atheist.)
@@brianw.5230 what convinced you of Christianity?
@Jinja071 I got attacked by a demon in 2016. It was a case of demonic oppression. I went to several doctors and a psychologist and it had no natural cause.
Christianity is true!
Andrew:”Faith is not the be-all end-all. It’s just the way people interpret the world.”
Not rational people.
Props to him for admitting the truth in the end instead of dancing around it. Perfect example of hypocrisy and fake progressivism.
I'm triggered by "fake progressivism." There are lot of Americans who play at being a progressive, while not knowing much of anything about progressive policies, history, or the status quo. Even worse, there are politicians who have played at being a progressive, and they've successfully manipulated a lot of fake progressives.
And don't get me started on the fake leftists who claim that they're going to conduct a violent revolution (against our massive, technologically-advanced military and our law enforcement agencies, while not even bothering to leave their home to vote or bothering to send in a mail-in ballot.
To be clear, I don't support claims of violent revolution in the U.S. from anyone. But it bothers me more when they come from privileged people who don't even do the bare minimum to try to effect positive change.
I disagree with 'perfect' but otherwise, correct.
How did he admit the truth in the end? He destroyed his credibility in the end by saying "I hope other inventors of their own god will recognize what they're doing, meanwhile I don't follow what I don't think is right _however_ I'll vote whatever my church tells me. (Even though I'm a progressive and I don't follow every jot and tittle of Catholicism, and btw no one of any religion does unless they live in a theocracy!)"
Lordy what a confused individual that guy was.
" You are not being persecuted, you are just wrong ". Love it !!
“ you’re not being persecuted, you’re just wrong”
One believer's "progress" is another believer's blasphemy.
If you “progress” off a cliff is that really progress? 😒
@@benclark4823yes actually, smartass, cuz you still progressed did you not?
@@benclark4823Technically yes, it’s progress in a new direction 😂
blasphemy, when ignorant iron age myths cannot be supported
Blasphemy = Slander against a fictional character.😂😂😂😂😂
I was once a Catholic like this guy. It was a brief period as I was deconstructing my faith out of extreme right wing Catholicism, but the more important transition was away from authoritarianism. I eventually stopped thinking that the desires of the Pope and other leaders mattered more than actually thinking through a problem, and without recognized authority the church leaders are just a bunch of guys in robes.
Maybe one day this guy will also be thinking for himself instead of hanging on the word of another. It only takes one pope manipulative enough to sway their minds in a worse way.
Yes the stance on birth control has been harmful especially for African countries. The stance on abortion has been quite harmful for desperate young ladies who cannot care for a future child. The stance on male-only control of the church, on celibacy, on infallibility of the pope; a secular humanism worldview leads to better outcomes all around.
@@rationalist8805The stance on abortion even harms those who have no children.
@@Nocturnalux Its harmful to basically everyone, but I'd actually argue that its most harmful to the kids who would otherwise be aborted. There are any number of reasons for why a person might seek an abortion, but regardless of the reason, its because they dont want the child. That might be for selfish reasons, basically using the procedure as a form of birth control (which is EXTREMELY shitty), or it might be because the Mother is mentally or financially unable to care for the child or hell, it might be because the child was a result of rape. Regardless of the reason, if someone wants to abort but cant, that child WILL suffer. Whether its from a resentful parent or due to the family simply not having the financial stability to allow for a happy childhood, it doesnt matter, at the end of the day, it would be better to end the pregnancy so that no one suffers.
And, of course, these people are almost always also against any form of governmental assistances, leaving the children they 'saved' in horrible situations and sitting back in their comfortably armchairs, sipping expensive wine and feeling oh so satisfied with themselves for having saved some unborn childs life and ignoring them starving and shivering in the gutter.
And that also completely ignores the other reason why the procedure might be needed to SAVE the life of the mother. Because the childs life matters more than the Mothers, right up until they are born and then these dipshits could not give one single solitary toss about them.
@@marcusreading3783 My religion teacher told me, grade 9 me, that if I became pregnant and it as non-viable but the pregnancy was sure to result in my death, I should let myself die.
As for abortion as birth control being shitty, I don’t see the problem. It’s a clump of cells. The one carrying it disposes it as they see fit.
If anything, it can harm the person if done repeatedly but it’s their call.
@@Nocturnalux Christian love everyone!
There are far better, safer and generally more effective methods available, so I generally feel like if someones doing that, they should be given some proper education into whats available. It also takes up the time of health care professionals who could be doing other things for people who ACTUALLY need their help, rather than messing around with people who would be better served with a condom
"I don't use intuition, I had spiritual experiences!"
And how do you determine they were spiritual, was it evidence based or was it just...INTUITION?!
To be fair, they are slightly different. You’re confounding intuition with a real emotional experience that can be easily misattributed to divinity.
On tonight's episode of _Fun with Cyclical Logic,_ starring everyone's favourite theist, Andrew from Florida! :3
That was precisely the thought I had when he said that. After all, the interpretation of a religious experience is wholly intuitive. Even Catholic mystics have to resort to intuition in order to expound upon their "experiences" as they have no logical foundation on which to base such.
@@darkstar4494 *"You’re confounding intuition with a real emotional experience"*
No. He isn't. He doesn't even (at least not in his post) doubt they had a "real emotional experiences."
The point OP is highlighting is the _method_ Andrew has used to confirm/conclude _what_ that "real emotional experience" actually was.
And that, in this case, seems to have been intuition.
@@cy-one Yes, exactly. It always comes back to "Well I FEEL this way." which is entirely separate from whether or not it's true.
With some of those long silences I was thinking "Yikes, the caller has been killed by logic!"
Definition of religion: Pretending to know things you don’t know........!!!
That's not the generally accepted definition.
That is essentially what religion is though.
@@flying_spaghettimonsterPretty sure OP's "definition of..." was tongue in cheek ;)
Then if things get rough, doing the flip side and convincing yourself you don't know the obvious.
Science is having questions which may never be answered, religion is having answers which may never be questioned.
I don't think I've ever seen a caller fail so significantly, so thoroughly, and so often the way Andrew has. Every one of his points is such an obviously easy point to address and debunk, that it's beyond embarrassing. The only caller I think has worse arguments is Christian... Now that guy is unbeatable in his inability to think.
This whole conversation, but especially the last few minutes, is a masterclass on cognitive dissonance. This has to be one of my favorite segments. The way Jimmy brought it back around d to his question about voting against your conscience because of your religion by asking him the question about the Pope directing his vote was genius. Love you guys!!
The paper rumbling through his notes near the end there is really telling.
its either him taking notes through the call. or its some sort of script he put together with answers and what he wanted to say. i would guess the latter. who knows, maybe he got hired by some apologist😂
Yes, sounded like he was following a script and got thrown off the script.
"I didn't present a logical argument". Well, that's for god damn sure. 😂
"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool."
Voltaire
Religion started when the first con man met the first fool - Mark Twain
"I didn't present a logical argument".... 😂
The only honest thing he said.
I really appreciate the time and effort you put in this. Amazing work! Keep up the good work Matt!
Homie, upset his imaginary friend was made up by his own mind. Wild.
well, possibly the pope's mind, which seems to be more important than his mind, judging from the end of the call
These people need serious mental health help...
We havta remember the dum think everyone thinks like they do, cuz they can't think like we do. And fanatics & maga it's just hate being laughed at, but they sure won't stop running up to microphones & calling in.
Where can I buy the “you’re not being persecuted, you’re just wrong” T-shirt? 😂
Can't thank you enough, Jimmy Snow, for standing up for queers like me. Took a lifetime to come to the same conclusions a rational mind would arrive at, if not for millennia of indoctrination. Listening to you is that proverbial breath of fresh air.
It's very simple, with religion we lose morality, we lose rationality, we lose intelligence and we lose humanity.
Religion poisons everything - thx Hitch.
Then why is it that when humans were more religious in the past and in the most religious cultures today we were and are more immoral, more irrational, significantly less intelligent and illiterate, and by far more inhumane, cruel and barbaric?
@@jaclo3112 thank you?
I really can't tell if you're supporting or against OP's statement? Lol
@@jaclo3112 What a strange, argumentative, vehement agreement.
The hypocracy without self realization is scary.
You get used to it.
Unfortunately.
@@flying_spaghettimonster Been working on this in the realm of politics and religion deconversion for ten years at least now and I am still not used to it. I'm just not.
@@totonow6955
I'm in the same boat, no matter how many people you get through to, there's still an ocean of the same tired old arguments that have never held water.
Just keep paddling for future generations.
@@flying_spaghettimonster paddle, paddle, paddle as they say in white water rafting. 🤓cheers
The answer is to abstain from both.
“The hypocrisy is amazing.”
This guy is so fundamentally confused and out of his depth that I don't think he even understands his own position or the hosts positions.
We should give them all that sign that says "Don't believe everything you think".
Andrew, come on over to St. Tammany Parish, the most conservative county in Louisiana, and see if your ideas on this subject fly. I think it will be an extremely eye-opening experience for you.
Is this an equivalence to what I just heard? "I would never do anything against my moral compass unless a crime boss, who has never met me, in another country tells me to."
Andrew was a classic example of someone who doesn't know the difference between the fact that Christianity exists and whether Christianity is true. Just because Christianity has a long history, doesnt make it true. Just makes it wrong for a very long time. I heard a lot of crickets in that discussion.
Thanks
This is like NBA players dunking on middle schoolers... but I don't expect anyone to be able to actually defend any religion.
Christianity ...the bible...all gods....All religions ...are man made created ... story's and myths
That's what I tend to believe, in the lack of any evidence whatsoever that any gods exist, Occam's Razor says that the most likely explanation is that all gods were invented by human imagination.
To control the populace.
The Catholic basilica by me has vote pro life. They need to start paying taxes.
It’s not illegal for a nonprofit to tell people to vote based on certain issues. If it were, good people like FFRF can’t be nonprofits. What the church can’t do is tell you which candidate for whom to vote.
@@Leith_Crowther yeah, and the Catholic Church says vote pro life, let’s not pretend we don’t know what that coded language means. They shouldn’t say VOTE for anything in particular. It should be Vote. The end. But it’s not. Don’t be so damn precious.
@@Leith_Crowtherbut they don’t have to be audited and analyzed and regulated like actual non profits.
@@RoozleDoozle-9210I know.
@@trishayamada807Is it your position that even the more noble sort of nonprofit should lose the ability to push for votes just so churches lose it, too?
Damn, that was awesome !!!
There is no such thing as an honest theist!
Regarding how, shall we call it stricter, Christianity is actually affecting 'secular' US law. A judge in Alabama, conferring personhood on frozen embryos, literally wrote in his decision about the wrath of God. Where is Andrew living, and what brand of blinders is he wearing?
I remember the punchline of Robert Heinlein’s “Stranger in a Strange Land” was “Thou art god.” I always felt that this means that we create god in our own image and likeness, and that everyone else is wrong.
That's the main idea. You either create your own god, your god comports with some one else's idea of god and you join them or you follow. No matter what, everyone does make their own version of god and interpretation of that that god says, wants, etc.
Now I have maiden stuck in my head.
Yay. You "grokked" that. 🤣🤣🤣
I honestly did not expect him to say that he'd follow the Pope after all of what came before that statement
Oh the birdie ambiance is pretty nice. Maybe you should have this guy back on more frequently because it’s so peaceful
The stupidity is faster than the light.
Dark is faster than light because whenever you turn the lights off, the dark is already there!
Even catholics claim a "personal relationship to Jesus" these days. Priests are important, but mostly for the magic parts (eucharist).
I left the church 24 years ago. I think if they had come up with this "personal relationship with Jesus" thing earlier, I'd have left earlier.
Interesting enough those magical acts are only allowed to them. Magic being a vice in the same bible they follow.
..., yet no one can prove that Jesus or God has physically appeared to them or audibly communicated with them. What an odd and unusual coincidence that an all-powerful God can't both to directly interact with us for even 1 minute out of our entire lives.
Quite honestly, I've never seen Jesse on this channel and I found myself forgetting about the conversation and marveling at how handsome and fit he is 😅😁
@@Digital_David You're right, even if these people are telling the truth, their personal experiences don't help me at all. It's strange how God and Jesus never appear to anyone who don't already believe in them.
Faith is believing in something that can not be proven. Sauron lives. Same thing.
If they had a real reason to believe they would give that reason, they would not just say it's faith.
This show should be called "God busters!" With the music and all.
Aron and Matt are the bests thanks for talk About this very important topic
Damn Jimmy. Great job.
"Okay I'm lost now"
"I bet"
“The Bible condemns your brand of belief.”
“Okay…?”
I found it hilarious how abiding by the magic book suddenly isn’t as important.
When Jimmy is saying that the Mormon church is the richest religious organization, you can see Matt squirming around wanting to blurt out "the Vatican".
Andrew has his "🎵own......personal......Jesus 🎵"
Listening to this call I felt like Matt was channeling Christopher Hitchens. (which was great) :)
Ooooo I’m stealing that “Christian’s will find persecution anywhere” line, so true
Imagine a world where GOD loves people and just shows up
Thats why humans invented religion so that they can imagine.
D'oh, d'oh, d'oh!
You've just destroyed the bible.
@@jamesbreen8416fraid so
Tbh there's nothing funnier than the excuses theists cook up to try and reconcile the two fundamentally incompatible propositions that God loves all of us and wants a relationship with us and that God just can't be bothered to show up in a way that doesn't rely on just blindly believing a book or a prophet.
Boring. I’d rather the joy of discovery with science.
So what about the caring catholic church in Ireland? Homosexuality was only decriminalized in 1993.
And the Magdalene Laundries.
It amazes me that Christians consider God to be a universal truth, I've been hard pressed to get an 80% consistent description of God from all the Christians I've asked.
26:33
Has to be one of the best question responses on this show. So hilarious.
If you listen carefully, you can hear the tweeting birds orbiting his head.
Hey Snowman! You are really cool to watch in the discussions. Smart, quick, whity. But your ads in the end suuuuuuuucks!
Seems that Andrew just makes things up and enjoys the sound of his own voice. His replies are all absurd and circular.
Most American Catholics *do* vote for gay marriage and for abortion access. While they're mostly voting for left wing economics (as much as we have it in the US) , polling shows over 50% support from Catholics on the abortion and gay rights issues themselves.. I'm not going to defend their reasons for their religiosity, but I look at catholics as allies in the fight against evangelicals. If you've seen any of the MOUNTAIN of anti-catholic propaganda from them on tiktok, they know "they're next".
"If the pope tells me I have to", cause Befehl ist Befehl.
Can't have flawed logic if you don't use logic😂
I love how jimmy and Matt constantly explain & exposing their hypocrisy. And also teaches us all how these religious beliefs people votes.
That re-worded question was equally if not more confusing than the original one
🎵Hello, my name is Elder Snow🎵 😆
this caller forgot to bring a knife to this gun fight. so outclassed, at least he sort of realised he was facing one dead end after another.
Andrew brought a squirt pistol to a nuke fight 😂
ending at 6:11, that all went right over his head. *LOL*
watching from my sofa in greece
it's been awhile since I have heard this call, he is delusional and is clearly making up his own religion taking the good bits and ignoring all the bad garbage in the bible. He has no clue about other religions.
Birds on the call making more sense than Andrew. 🐦
Am I having a stroke? Do you all hear the birds too???😅
Love this show
He basically just said he'd go on a killing spree if the Pope told him to.
There are three kinds of religions: inclusive, exclusive and aloof. Inclusive religions are usually not monotheistic, and will happily add another god to their pantheons (that explains the madness of Ancient Egyptian and current Hindu pantheons: the amalgamated other gods as they annexed territories). People are free to pay lip service and mostly left alone if they do not make waves (Narendra Mohdi's intolerance is rather odd in that context). Exclusive religions are usually monotheistic. Their god is a kind of tribal chief demanding mad about protocol and etiquette, and demanding absolute loyalty as if being in a constant state of war. Muslims, Christians. They view the world in imperialistic terms and want to conquer it (proselytism). Their god loves all humans, but they tend to define humans deserving of love as people who belong to their religion. Then, the aloof monotheists who want to mind their own business, to be left alone: Yazidi/Mazdaans/To some extent, Jews (nowadays). They are exclusive but not imperialistic. They want peace.
The only religion that makes sense is in fact animism. The notion that everything on earth has some sort of soul, aura, power is not incompatible with science XD
Which debate are they talking about?
Is this a clip from a recent show?
"what do fallacious mean?" - Highlander.
I can remember back when "Progressive Christian" just meant King's X.
Does anyone have a link for the debate matt is referencing?
Poor Andrew - has rung over 30 times. Always has an iron-clad argument in his head, and is then systematically demolished by the hosts.
Matt, I got a new nickname for you....Mic drop Matt. You like? 😊
Faith isn't a foundation for anything accept ignorance.
My fav AE episode. Marty and Jimbo are the Nut 32:20 Wrecking Crew par excellence!👍🏽🤣
I'd love to hear a progressive pastor call in to the show
" We cannot fight against altruism unless we fight against its epistemological base : irrationalism. "
-Ayn Rand-
The end "crushing loneliness" 😂😂😂
30:43 This reminds me of Connor McGregor telling Chad Mendez "You'll do as your told!"
Jeez Jimmy that question was ridiculous..why not just ask how many people vote in favour of their religion !
Does feeling an overwhelming presence while taking communion convince him that God exists, or more likely, does his religious beliefs make him think that he's feeling an overwhelming presence? Or possibly both...
Sounds like mental illness
Jimmy communicates so well
Andrew is calling from the state nervous hospital.
What is a nervous hospital?
I would not argue with Jimmy . Too honest! ❤
i would love to. if we have something to disagree about
4:52 "You're not winning, so you're incorrect!"
"It seems that so many people have been beaten into theistic puddles of broken confusion that religion has become a huge "easy bake oven" for them that turns out "food for thought" that has been burnt and distorted into unrecognizable drool."
"Delusional
is not a survival strategy"
Anyone know which stream Andrews last stellar appearance was?
@@TheSnoeedog LOL... you cold.
“Do you have a reason?” -> several minutes -> “Do you have a _Non-fallacious_ reason?”
Humans are gods. Humans are the boogie man.
Unbelievable
Thanks Jimmy! Every time I hear an American say the word “duty” (doody) I have to go watch Wreck it Ralph again!
Anybody have the link to the recent debate between Matt and the Muslim fellow that Matt mentions? I looked up links that show that Matt has had many such debates.
But since the present video was posted two days ago, and Matt mentions "the other day", I'm not sure which one he's talking about.