Please don’t hate me…but I got the Perpetual/Kill Clip drop with Extended or Full Bore as barrel options. Handling MW was the only downside. But still happy that I got a good drop without a chase
@@xlightlessx7778you need to spam it. Don't worry about about precision hits, it will come. You just need 2 or 3 MAXIMUM for a .67ttk, which will come very easy if you play your engagements right
I have one with heal clip and kill clip and it's my favourite weapon this season. Truly beautiful sidearm. I feel like heal clip is a sleeper perk in pvp. Yes, it is only 30hp but it helps lowering the amount of hp you need to regen and allowing more aggressive play style.
agreed. climbing over the raid wall is really hard for some of us. we need more accessible sources of certain weapon archetypes NOT locked behind the raid wall.
Funny thing about this: In the final episode of the Massive Breakdowns podcast, they had Mercules on. And while talking about Lightweight Handcannons, and how weapons need to have appropriate stats for their activity (so a destination weapon like Waking Vigil isn't insane), Merc did bring up how sometimes they put out weapons in the World pool that have "really cracked" statlines, where he then cited Redback as an example. So then, they also asked him if there was any new Lightweight Sidearms on the way. And he revealed that he had built himself a Lightweight Sidearm, in a similar vein to Redback, for S22. And that it was his go-to weapon in PvP playtesting. ...I guess we now know which sidearm he was talking about.
I don't know what it is, but I just love weapons with silencers in D2, especially sidearms. There's Buzzard, 18 Kelvins, Allied Demand, and others I'm not remembering the names of. I can't wait to maybe get a chance to use this one
Buzzard is my favorite because the polygonal barrel and reflex sight keeps your vision clear. The barrel doesn't kick up and blind me as badly as other silenced sidearms do.
This is one of those rare times I watched the video and checked my vault in hope and was genuinely shocked to find a stability masterworked Helio with Full Bore/chambered, Accurized, Perpetual Motion and Kill Clip. I have no idea when I even picked it up! I can’t believe my luck!!
I'd highly recommend waiting maybe a week or so and keeping an eye on the Bungie help Twitter if you do want to play the game again, due to dome DDosing the servers are currently barely functional
I. LOVE. This gun. My roll is totally not worth remembering (something with surrounded), but I've been having a blast with it in the crucible. I've only had the one drop (just like Psi Hermetic), but it feels so smooth, like it was made just for me. Really hoping we get foundry focusing soon so that I can get myself a better roll, because this is definitely going to be part of my rotation all the time, just like Keening.
I've got incandescent and moving target on mine, with a range MW. It's nutty in pvp. Ppl don't expect to get mowed down by a sidearm anymore. I still use my sunset AA, but it makes me happy we have another lw sidearm. It's my fave archetype for sure ❤ glad to see you showing it some love CoolGuy
I have one with Heal Clip / Incandescent that feels really good for PvE. Used it during contest Crota and was regularly the last one alive on most encounters.
I have a Heal+Kill Clip roll with tac mag, Hammerforged and Range MW, really want to try it out in Crucible but just haven't gotten around to it especially with how these past couple days have been
Got one dropped from an engram with range finder, kill clip, small bore, flared mag well, nadir focus, range masterwork. Come here and realise it's a rare drop lol. Am I lucky?
If they made it so legendary world armor stopped dropping after you've obtained it in collections it would help a ton with the world drop pool issue imo. There's absolutely no need to keep getting legendary armor from world engrams with all the ways of getting high stat legendary armor that are in the game now, unless you're a brand new player of course.
DUDE. I thought I was going crazy. I was using this for bounties yesterday because I didn’t have a sidearm in the vault. LOVED it. Went crazy in gambit
A while back the gunsmith sold a sleeper God Roll of the seventh seraph sidearm, and I can confirm that this archetype slaps hard. Smallbore//accurized//zen moment//threat detector//range mw
This thing shines in PvE as well Id say. I have one with heal clip and adrenaline junkie and it’s very nice. Heal clip is great, just so nice for survivability. Sidearms are quite lethal in PvE and I personally believe are the most underrated weapon type in the game. Overall, I’d definitely keep an eye out for it
Hey CoolGuy, have you noticed the following? Since season of the deep started, all legendary trace rifles and also coldheart acquired a very obstructive muzzle flash. I have used your review of path of least resistance as evidence but still nothing from Bungie. Watch the gameplay in that video then fire that gun today. Same for all other legendary ones and coldheart. It’s so intrusive and it’s actually giving people I spoke to on Reddit headaches which is why they have had to chuck them in the vault.
I really love also Hermetic V, it’s origin perk, with slow and freeze, and with the Duskfield grenade, lays a deadly trap for enemies. Making ad clear, and relentless enemies like Thrall, easy to take care of.
I have one with rangefinder and pinpoint. I can't check my stats because of bungie maintenance but I recall them being really good. I use it in PvP often because all the perks just add together for a lot of accuracy.
My first drop was a heal clip frenzy and I absolutely Love it. PVE main to the end and this thing slaps. Even pulled it out during day one it just felt comfy with the extra damage.
This was my og sidearm before anything else came around years later. Damn it's good to back buuuuuuut aggressive frames are my favorites now and with a dmg boost, they just mow down anyone with a burst or two.
Thank you for the heads up. I got a moving target kill clip roll that I stuck in the vault. I had no idea it was an anonymous autumn sibling. I deleted my AA 😢. Can't wait to try this now.
I had the heal/kill clip combo that I sharded because I don't really like sidearms in PvP and there aren't any I would use over my crafted drang...but I did keep my heal clip/incandescent roll for PvE.
I did the same thing for the exact same reason with the same roll, and you can add vault space problems to that lol. I normally keep rolls like that but I just thought of my crafted drang and couldn’t justify holding onto it.
@@larrybyrd5634 ...100% agree...Vault space is a real struggle...I know they give us a lot but there is over 1000 weapons in the game and the collections system is useless..and you want to keep a lot of weapons since the meta constantly changes...Ill never forget when the 600rpm Auto rifle was meta and I had a god roll outlaw/kill clip one...that you couldn't even get anymore...my best KD in PVP...since then I never want to delete used god rolls because you never know when they become meta.
@@ccruse1112 bro you nailed it. And it hurts extra hard because I have developed a very keen sense of beautifully perked weapons over the years… for various reasons. Most of all is that the main reason I will always love destiny is the unique weapon gameplay. The rush of having a content creator make a whole video about a weapon I selected out of the thousands that drop … I just love collecting the best of the best and testing them out at my leisure. But after playing for so many years I have the high quality problem of a packed vault that Datto wouldn’t be able to critique! It’s 2023 …. I want unlimited vault space lol
i got this weapon with heal clip and kill clip.. havent used it in crucible yet, i know heal clip isnt the best but it synergizes SO Well with kill clip
Imo if they wanted to make these better to drop MAKE THEM DROP IN THE PATROL AREA LS AND CHESTS AT A HIGER RATE!! I have next to ZERO reasons to drop into the EDZ Nessus the Moon and I feel the magic of discovery could benifit from this. Legendary shards are going away. Solves 2 issues better source and make Patrol something to do.
I guess I might be one of the nine. Extended or Hammer Forged Rifling, Accurized Rounds or Tactical Mag, Perpetual Motion and Incandescent (missed it by that much...) with a Range masterwork. Using Extended Barrel, it's 100 recoil and hits a range of 61 with the masterwork. Impressive little pea shooter.
not only are the recent world drop additions weighted shit vs the current world drop weapons: but WEAPONS IN GENERAL ARE WEIGHTED SHIT VS ARMOR stop giving us armor bungie, none of us are going to keep it :U
I have two of these so far, so so rolls. Fluted/Small Accurized/Appended Moving Target Incandescent Arrowhead/Hammer Forged Alloy/Flared Perpetual motion Percision Instrument If the D2 servers were not so harsh the last few days, I'd have maybe one or two more.
It's dropping from the Skydock lost sector today 5/20/24 I have same roll as you with more range but I have to get use to shooting it, because like you said can't see what I'm shooting so I think I'm shooting too high, or low.....i'm so used to using drang, and my range finder eye of the storm allied demand!
I managed to get one with Smallbore/Fluted, Extended Mag, MT, KC, Range MW. Haven’t tried it yet since I haven’t been playing a ton, but I’m sure it’s very good. After looking at it on Foundry I don’t think I’d change a single perk on it, though the third perk doesn’t seem to have any obvious choices anyway. HC, MT, PM, and Demo all seem like solid choices
I'm at my breaking point with Bungie and their ''weighted" RNG. Why oh why don't want us to NOT have the new world-drop weapons ?? I play my part and i just had 1 of these to drop. (incandescent). Blood pressure goes up with every Palmyra i get. Add to that RNG the fact we don't have bad luck protection, i still don' t have any of this season Exotic Arms I PAID FOR to dropped !!! i effin' angry ! Why does it always takes outcry ? Why do we always have to wait for a ''We hear you'' ? is there a "keep my money" meme ?
I feel like the weighting should be largely equal BUT: Let the Gunsmith take up a bit of this old roll. Give us a better way to earn Gunsmith reputation and allow that rank up package to be traded for a pool of foundry weapons, any world Omolons, any world Häkkes, etc. Hell, if that's too much what about a weekly selection: this week you get Häkke heavies, SUROS specials, and any foundry's Autorifles. Rank up (quicker) -> get a Gunsmith engram -> cash it in for one of these pools.
PvP mains: This is pretty cool PvE mains: Totally, dude Lore mains: This weapon was made by Nadir, a foundry that created the Nemesis Star exotic in Destiny Rise of Iron, in which their Origin Trait must be a homage as it does the opposite of what Nemesis Star's exotic perk did. Well played, Bungie. Well played.
With the Banshee update including Foundry weapon focusing, I hope Bungie adds Tex Mechanica, Nadir, Daito, and Crux/Lomar, to Banshee too. And new and old Black Armory weapons and armor to Ada-1 respectively. Imagine going to Ada-1 for a god roll, or red border, BA weapon? It’d give more incentive to visit her besides shaders and armor.
Can confirm, this thing slaps. Im preferential to weapons that have the demo/junkie combo, especially as a HoIL void titan using devour and weakening vortex nades lol so color me surprised when this thing dropped after coming back from a break from D2.
I'm not a big fan of sidearms, but this weapons RIPS. I got a decent roll - first and second column were OK, and stability masterwork - with Perpetual Motion and Kill Clip. It's excellent, but best when I'm in snuggling range of my opponent.
No heliocentric yet, but ive got a ~4/5 Redback from the world pool! Its 47 Range, 60 base Stability, AND Perpetual Motion on top of that. Thing's a dream to shoot! Lightweights have always been a favorite, but they need a good roll. i wish there were more out there
On the note of sidearns. The decoupling of range abd zook has killed hip fire grip on sidearms. Cpuld get around 23 metres with Boudica from the hip, now it only gors as far as the ADS. Effectively making it useless on sidearms.
I have Hammer-Forged, Accurized, Enlightened Action and Precision Instrument with a handling masterwork. I haven't tried it out yet but it seems like I've been missing out.
Never sleep on Precision Instrument on this. It is a natural .67ttk with 4 head 1 body. Instrument brings it to 3/2 on high resil, 2/3 on low. Its Target Lock for headshot junkies. This makes me hope they reintroduce Spoiler Alert with Precision Instrument and make it Nadir. The stars cannot align enough since we are getting into endgame of the Light/Dark saga
Ok CRAZY idea here but hear me out: Why don't we remove the old non origin trait weapons from the loot pool? I have literally gotten 3 FWC weapons this week that are NOT updated to current weapon standards. I hear you ask, "what about the god rolls for pvp? I absolutely love *insert old gun here* and havent gotten my pvp 5/5 roll yet!", to which I respond, isn't that why banshee and xur randomly get those guns now? Either remove old guns from the random world drops, or take them out of banshee and xur gear rotations. Pick at least 1 and it would solve a lot of these rare gun problems
I've been a lightweight sidearm evangelist for a while. Back in the day, the only one I though could hang is the farewell since it rolled rangefinder. Redback is a solid option since it had inherently twice the range of the farewell. But with the zoom change, all of the lightweights became playable. As long as you're using it as a sidearm, the lightweights are king. Slightly slower ttk than the adaptive (.067 vs .6), but its more forgiving (important as a cqc spam weapon), lightweight frame (inherently fast handling, higher jumps, and sprint speed), and manageably fast rpm (i hate full auto on sidearms. tap firing at lightweight max rpm is possible). Even without solid perks, the lightweight frames are carrying a lot of the weight. That being said, the world drop weapon rate is killing me. I've had like 2 drop and I'm almost 100 in season rank. Give us a focus, or at minimum a rng skew towards the new stuff like coolguy suggests.
The drop rates of the world weapons drive me crazy. I'm +19 on the season, I have a fractured foot, so been playing a ton, and I have gotten ONE of these. I usually reset all venders on 3 characters every week. I can't tell you how many times I went to collect everything and get something like two Typhons and a Palmyra. Hell they are from S16, launch of the god damn Witch Queen!!
Just FYI, Bungie confirmed on Reddit that they plan to bring back focusing for foundry and world drop weapons next season. Hopefully that should make getting weapons like this one just easier come next season.
I finally had one drop today while getting Wishender, and it's a pretty good roll imo. HFR or small bore, accurized rounds,enlightening action, kill clip, and RL MW. This sidearm is amazing. I used it in trials and got most of my kills with it.
I got quite a few drops of this. One with kill clip and heal clip, stability MW accurized. One with heal clip and incandescent, range MW appended. Enlightened kill clip (shitty left column and MW) and a few others sitting in my vault. I run the heal clip kill clip and enlightened kill clip in pvp
Oooo I had north of 10k kills on my anonymous autumn with rangefinder back in the day on the sticks. Now that I’m on m&k Lightweights unfortunately feel TERRIBLE, can’t see a darn thing and no reticle friction to guide the way.
you forgor about spoiler alert. Also, I run this with tricksleves and Foreunner and I'm not only able to play aggressively, but supportedly as well since heal clip is AOE. And since this thing is a lightweight, I get a FREE 20 mobility so I can redistribute my stats better
LMAO 9 of us. Dude, I play this game quite a bit (that's an understatement :)) and I didn't even recognize the sidearm :( The world drops are crazy rare.
I've been waiting for a lightweight sidearm for a LONG while. Takes me back to Zeal Vector every time I use one. Obviously nothing hits like that used to, but it feels great to rip with a spam sidearm again.
I have a heal clip incandescent roll and an enlightened action kill clip roll. Haven't tried them yet. EDIT: tried the Enlightened Kill Clip roll, it feels HORRIBLE in pvp. the recoil has it literally slapping you in the face when you're trying to aim.
It’s because of this gun I found out Enlightened Action and Precision Instrument existed. That dropped for me first day of the season. Honestly I wish I had kill clip with enlighten action now that I’ve seen it, but it’s a good gun either way. This thing melts people, but precision instrument is hard to stay on target with how that perk ends if you miss. Definitely want the Enlightened/KClip combo.
I got this thing on the first day of the season, I have like 1000 kills on it or something. I don’t even have a good roll. It’s so bad, but I am in love and I can’t stop using it. Granted, I am very much a lightweight sidearm enthusiast, but still the best when I was in a very long time. Like since anonymous autumn went away. . . My only problem with it is the same problem that I’ve had with pretty much every light weight, except for the Ikelos you can’t see. The recoil doesn’t settle before the rate of fire, and your gun model just covers everything up. And you can adjust to it, you can get used to it, it just takes a lot sometimes.
Hello CG! Precision Instruments is a different Headseeker. 'Weapon hits increase precision damage'. Haven't messed around with it too much yet, but you may want to take a deeper look.
I love sidearms in PvP but SMG still need to be reigned in even more. They should be 21M max range that way it doesn't feel like you're handicapping yourself when you use a sidearm.
Mercules tweeted about Redback several months ago, and I discovered I had the same exact roll. It's been one of my all-time favorite Crucible weapons. So I'm keeping my eye on this one should I get a good roll to drop!
I just can't stand the sidearms with suppressors, the recoil animation makes it next to impossible to keep landing shots without a controller's aim friction (skill issue, I know), but I really wish that they would do something with ADS visibility with sidearms (and crimson for that matter).
Sidearms in general feel so weird to use. Somewhere in the Venn Diagram of reticle bounce, accuracy cones, range/stability, recoil animations, gun models, etc. the only way i've found to consistently hit shit is to gradually pull the mouse down to fight the bullets seemingly drawing up from the center of the screen like CSGO. That being said, the only sidearm that I ever liked was a couple surplus Spoiler Alerts I had. I'm hoping to find a copy of this one at all since it has the same gun model to see if it holds up.
World Drop rates....ugh. Finally today dropped a shoot to loot + kinetic tremors Battle scar. I have dropped maybe 5 total since the start of last season. I have only dropped one of these sidearms with rangefinder + adrenaline junky
This thing SLAPS LOL
I had a lot of fun with restoration, radiant, and kill clip for ease of use. This thing is staying in my loadouts forever.
I got a moving target/kill clip. It slaps HARD
I got Heal Clip/Kill Clip; haven’t taken it off my syntho bonk Titan yet
Have you checked out the new stasis auto yet
Got Perpetual Motion and Incandescent on mine. Struggling to use anything else.
To the 9 people who have gotten one of these to drop, we can all agree it sounds beautiful.
I have an incandescent demo one and I love it
Please don’t hate me…but I got the Perpetual/Kill Clip drop with Extended or Full Bore as barrel options. Handling MW was the only downside. But still happy that I got a good drop without a chase
Haven't used mine yet. I got Rangefinder and Precision Instrument though. Sounds good, but I have issues landing crits outside of Encore sidearms
handling is the best MW in pvp! what u talkin about dood!@@pyr0lyZer
@@xlightlessx7778you need to spam it. Don't worry about about precision hits, it will come. You just need 2 or 3 MAXIMUM for a .67ttk, which will come very easy if you play your engagements right
I have one with heal clip and kill clip and it's my favourite weapon this season. Truly beautiful sidearm. I feel like heal clip is a sleeper perk in pvp. Yes, it is only 30hp but it helps lowering the amount of hp you need to regen and allowing more aggressive play style.
yea heal clip pairs nicely with solar for that, allowing you to proc ember of benevolence without using any abilities
I got one to drop with Heal Clip/Incandescent and I love it in PVE.
Have the same roll and I really like it.
I need these rolls you guys have
It also heals nearby teammates, which is clutch in Trials.
Heal Clip/kill clip 🤌🏼
Only one I've had drop has that roll and I must agree
I want more sidearms like this to be in the kinetic slot. Especially rapid fires, which the only one is from root of nightmares.
Get a raid group together
agreed.
climbing over the raid wall is really hard for some of us.
we need more accessible sources of certain weapon archetypes NOT locked behind the raid wall.
@@ayufever1978ron is the easiest raid in the entire game lol. Man up and get in there.
@@steiigeits easy to you. I feel like people refuse to understand that.
@@KipVelcrononah dog that shit is objectively easy only 2 mechanics and only 2 people have to do anything
So far i have only gotten one to drop, chambered, flared, heal clip, incandescent. It is pretty fun in pve when sidearm are usable
Heal clip and incandescent?? You lucky 🤬
Where Can i loot this sidearm
Funny thing about this: In the final episode of the Massive Breakdowns podcast, they had Mercules on. And while talking about Lightweight Handcannons, and how weapons need to have appropriate stats for their activity (so a destination weapon like Waking Vigil isn't insane), Merc did bring up how sometimes they put out weapons in the World pool that have "really cracked" statlines, where he then cited Redback as an example. So then, they also asked him if there was any new Lightweight Sidearms on the way.
And he revealed that he had built himself a Lightweight Sidearm, in a similar vein to Redback, for S22. And that it was his go-to weapon in PvP playtesting.
...I guess we now know which sidearm he was talking about.
I feel like I have such a hard time getting these world drops but I love the way they look and the way they feel! Didn’t even know this one existed!
Can we all agree that lightweight frames are some of the best weapons in the game, especially SMGs and Sidearms!
I don't know what it is, but I just love weapons with silencers in D2, especially sidearms. There's Buzzard, 18 Kelvins, Allied Demand, and others I'm not remembering the names of. I can't wait to maybe get a chance to use this one
Buzzard is my favorite because the polygonal barrel and reflex sight keeps your vision clear. The barrel doesn't kick up and blind me as badly as other silenced sidearms do.
@@ShaoShaoMienshao Buzzard does feel fantastic
It all started for me in D1 with Havoc Pigeon.
This is one of those rare times I watched the video and checked my vault in hope and was genuinely shocked to find a stability masterworked Helio with Full Bore/chambered, Accurized, Perpetual Motion and Kill Clip. I have no idea when I even picked it up! I can’t believe my luck!!
Suppressed pistols have no equal.
I haven't watched Destiny content in years, but seeing this... well, I think I feel the craving coming back.
I'd highly recommend waiting maybe a week or so and keeping an eye on the Bungie help Twitter if you do want to play the game again, due to dome DDosing the servers are currently barely functional
@@Oblivion9996 Oh no, I've never played the game and I don't really intend, I just used to watch Destiny videos a lot back in the day.
@@dutch_asocialite fair enough, probably a good decision for your sanity
Just got my first roll of this sidearm after getting slapped around in rumble by it. Feels so good!
I. LOVE. This gun.
My roll is totally not worth remembering (something with surrounded), but I've been having a blast with it in the crucible. I've only had the one drop (just like Psi Hermetic), but it feels so smooth, like it was made just for me. Really hoping we get foundry focusing soon so that I can get myself a better roll, because this is definitely going to be part of my rotation all the time, just like Keening.
I've got incandescent and moving target on mine, with a range MW. It's nutty in pvp. Ppl don't expect to get mowed down by a sidearm anymore. I still use my sunset AA, but it makes me happy we have another lw sidearm. It's my fave archetype for sure ❤ glad to see you showing it some love CoolGuy
I have one with Heal Clip / Incandescent that feels really good for PvE. Used it during contest Crota and was regularly the last one alive on most encounters.
I have a Heal+Kill Clip roll with tac mag, Hammerforged and Range MW, really want to try it out in Crucible but just haven't gotten around to it especially with how these past couple days have been
Got one dropped from an engram with range finder, kill clip, small bore, flared mag well, nadir focus, range masterwork. Come here and realise it's a rare drop lol. Am I lucky?
I had no idea that gun even dropped
Me either. I play destiny a lot and have never had this weapon drop. I'm a big side arm lover too. Would love to get my hands on this thing
If they made it so legendary world armor stopped dropping after you've obtained it in collections it would help a ton with the world drop pool issue imo. There's absolutely no need to keep getting legendary armor from world engrams with all the ways of getting high stat legendary armor that are in the game now, unless you're a brand new player of course.
I have a smallbore/accurized + moving target + killclip + ranged masterwork. 😎😏
I have this with Precision Instrument - it wrecks! I get way more critical hits than you would think possible - the hit registration has magic sauce.
After farming lost sectors for 2 hours I don’t have one! I’m convinced it doesn’t exist.
only had 1 to drop and i'm already settled on its roll. small bore, app mag, enlightened action, kill clip. its a deadly little thing and i love it
DUDE. I thought I was going crazy. I was using this for bounties yesterday because I didn’t have a sidearm in the vault. LOVED it. Went crazy in gambit
D2 team is on record saying world drop focussing is coming next season.
I love lightweights, but bad against smg, shotguns and fusions.
They should let you focus specific weapon groups at least smh
Almost rank 100 this season and I haven’t even had one of these drop.
I have a near perfect roll and can confirm that this is nutty.
I want seraph sidearm to be good so bad, it looks so good
A while back the gunsmith sold a sleeper God Roll of the seventh seraph sidearm, and I can confirm that this archetype slaps hard.
Smallbore//accurized//zen moment//threat detector//range mw
I just want one with heal clip kill clip.
This dropping with max range along with heal and kill clip had me more hyped than getting a raid exotic to drop
This thing shines in PvE as well Id say. I have one with heal clip and adrenaline junkie and it’s very nice. Heal clip is great, just so nice for survivability. Sidearms are quite lethal in PvE and I personally believe are the most underrated weapon type in the game. Overall, I’d definitely keep an eye out for it
Hey CoolGuy, have you noticed the following? Since season of the deep started, all legendary trace rifles and also coldheart acquired a very obstructive muzzle flash. I have used your review of path of least resistance as evidence but still nothing from Bungie. Watch the gameplay in that video then fire that gun today. Same for all other legendary ones and coldheart. It’s so intrusive and it’s actually giving people I spoke to on Reddit headaches which is why they have had to chuck them in the vault.
I will look into it too and if so let's get it on radar 💪
@@CoolGuyGames thank you, not just a cool guy but a legend as well!
I really love also Hermetic V, it’s origin perk, with slow and freeze, and with the Duskfield grenade, lays a deadly trap for enemies. Making ad clear, and relentless enemies like Thrall, easy to take care of.
I have one with rangefinder and pinpoint. I can't check my stats because of bungie maintenance but I recall them being really good. I use it in PvP often because all the perks just add together for a lot of accuracy.
My first drop was a heal clip frenzy and I absolutely Love it. PVE main to the end and this thing slaps. Even pulled it out during day one it just felt comfy with the extra damage.
This was my og sidearm before anything else came around years later. Damn it's good to back buuuuuuut aggressive frames are my favorites now and with a dmg boost, they just mow down anyone with a burst or two.
Thank you for the heads up. I got a moving target kill clip roll that I stuck in the vault. I had no idea it was an anonymous autumn sibling. I deleted my AA 😢. Can't wait to try this now.
I got one with Heal Clip and Kill Clip and it turns out to be really, really great in add-heavy pve.
I have that roll as well. It's wild how often you can stay at full health.
@@matthewboomin The combo of fast ROF, relatively small mags and quick reload time is pretty magical.
@@anotherkenlon Add in some firesprites from Incandescent for more healing. Sheeeeesh
I had the heal/kill clip combo that I sharded because I don't really like sidearms in PvP and there aren't any I would use over my crafted drang...but I did keep my heal clip/incandescent roll for PvE.
I did the same thing for the exact same reason with the same roll, and you can add vault space problems to that lol. I normally keep rolls like that but I just thought of my crafted drang and couldn’t justify holding onto it.
@@larrybyrd5634 ...100% agree...Vault space is a real struggle...I know they give us a lot but there is over 1000 weapons in the game and the collections system is useless..and you want to keep a lot of weapons since the meta constantly changes...Ill never forget when the 600rpm Auto rifle was meta and I had a god roll outlaw/kill clip one...that you couldn't even get anymore...my best KD in PVP...since then I never want to delete used god rolls because you never know when they become meta.
@@ccruse1112 bro you nailed it. And it hurts extra hard because I have developed a very keen sense of beautifully perked weapons over the years… for various reasons. Most of all is that the main reason I will always love destiny is the unique weapon gameplay. The rush of having a content creator make a whole video about a weapon I selected out of the thousands that drop … I just love collecting the best of the best and testing them out at my leisure. But after playing for so many years I have the high quality problem of a packed vault that Datto wouldn’t be able to critique! It’s 2023 …. I want unlimited vault space lol
0:21 you had me at lightweight Solar sidearm
i got this weapon with heal clip and kill clip.. havent used it in crucible yet, i know heal clip isnt the best but it synergizes SO Well with kill clip
I got this with demolitionist and incandescence but I see it can roll with Heal and Kill Clip I want so badly 😮😮😮
I have 27k kills on farewell and all I’ve looked for this season is this sidearm and bungie won’t give it to me.
I was fortunate enough to get one with Demo and Incan for PvE. Can't wait for sidearm mods again.
Spoiler alert. You forgot spoiler alert. I think. Great LW. Killing wind/demo. Nasty.
I have a legitimate 5/5 on this
Smallbore/Accurized/Enlightened Action/Kill Clip/ Reload MW
It is insane
Imo if they wanted to make these better to drop MAKE THEM DROP IN THE PATROL AREA LS AND CHESTS AT A HIGER RATE!! I have next to ZERO reasons to drop into the EDZ Nessus the Moon and I feel the magic of discovery could benifit from this. Legendary shards are going away. Solves 2 issues better source and make Patrol something to do.
Just got a Demolitionist/Frenzy combo to drop yesterday... I think it'll do well...
I guess I might be one of the nine. Extended or Hammer Forged Rifling, Accurized Rounds or Tactical Mag, Perpetual Motion and Incandescent (missed it by that much...) with a Range masterwork. Using Extended Barrel, it's 100 recoil and hits a range of 61 with the masterwork. Impressive little pea shooter.
not only are the recent world drop additions weighted shit vs the current world drop weapons: but WEAPONS IN GENERAL ARE WEIGHTED SHIT VS ARMOR stop giving us armor bungie, none of us are going to keep it :U
I have two of these so far, so so rolls.
Fluted/Small
Accurized/Appended
Moving Target
Incandescent
Arrowhead/Hammer Forged
Alloy/Flared
Perpetual motion
Percision Instrument
If the D2 servers were not so harsh the last few days, I'd have maybe one or two more.
It's dropping from the Skydock lost sector today 5/20/24 I have same roll as you with more range but I have to get use to shooting it, because like you said can't see what I'm shooting so I think I'm shooting too high, or low.....i'm so used to using drang, and my range finder eye of the storm allied demand!
I managed to get one with Smallbore/Fluted, Extended Mag, MT, KC, Range MW. Haven’t tried it yet since I haven’t been playing a ton, but I’m sure it’s very good. After looking at it on Foundry I don’t think I’d change a single perk on it, though the third perk doesn’t seem to have any obvious choices anyway. HC, MT, PM, and Demo all seem like solid choices
I want one so bad. I still haven't got it to drop though. Its got so many good perks.
I'm at my breaking point with Bungie and their ''weighted" RNG.
Why oh why don't want us to NOT have the new world-drop weapons ??
I play my part and i just had 1 of these to drop. (incandescent).
Blood pressure goes up with every Palmyra i get.
Add to that RNG the fact we don't have bad luck protection, i still don' t have any of this season Exotic Arms I PAID FOR to dropped !!!
i effin' angry ! Why does it always takes outcry ? Why do we always have to wait for a ''We hear you'' ?
is there a "keep my money" meme ?
I feel like the weighting should be largely equal BUT: Let the Gunsmith take up a bit of this old roll. Give us a better way to earn Gunsmith reputation and allow that rank up package to be traded for a pool of foundry weapons, any world Omolons, any world Häkkes, etc. Hell, if that's too much what about a weekly selection: this week you get Häkke heavies, SUROS specials, and any foundry's Autorifles. Rank up (quicker) -> get a Gunsmith engram -> cash it in for one of these pools.
PvP mains: This is pretty cool
PvE mains: Totally, dude
Lore mains: This weapon was made by Nadir, a foundry that created the Nemesis Star exotic in Destiny Rise of Iron, in which their Origin Trait must be a homage as it does the opposite of what Nemesis Star's exotic perk did.
Well played, Bungie. Well played.
Heal+Kill clip is PVP amazing. Heal clip + incandescent is so PVE good I completed the GM Nightfall this week with it. It’s too good not to have.
With the Banshee update including Foundry weapon focusing, I hope Bungie adds Tex Mechanica, Nadir, Daito, and Crux/Lomar, to Banshee too. And new and old Black Armory weapons and armor to Ada-1 respectively. Imagine going to Ada-1 for a god roll, or red border, BA weapon? It’d give more incentive to visit her besides shaders and armor.
Can confirm, this thing slaps.
Im preferential to weapons that have the demo/junkie combo, especially as a HoIL void titan using devour and weakening vortex nades lol so color me surprised when this thing dropped after coming back from a break from D2.
I'm not a big fan of sidearms, but this weapons RIPS. I got a decent roll - first and second column were OK, and stability masterwork - with Perpetual Motion and Kill Clip.
It's excellent, but best when I'm in snuggling range of my opponent.
Can farm Raid exotics.
Can't farm world drops.
This game sometimes, man lol...
No heliocentric yet, but ive got a ~4/5 Redback from the world pool! Its 47 Range, 60 base Stability, AND Perpetual Motion on top of that. Thing's a dream to shoot! Lightweights have always been a favorite, but they need a good roll. i wish there were more out there
I have 2 of these. Heal Clip/Kill Clip speaks for itself. I also have Heal Clip/Incandescent. Wild solar synergy
I'll die on this hill, if a WORLD DROP is CRAFTABLE (and you already have the pattern) IT SHOULD NO LONGER DROP FOR YOU
On the note of sidearns.
The decoupling of range abd zook has killed hip fire grip on sidearms.
Cpuld get around 23 metres with Boudica from the hip, now it only gors as far as the ADS. Effectively making it useless on sidearms.
I have Hammer-Forged, Accurized, Enlightened Action and Precision Instrument with a handling masterwork. I haven't tried it out yet but it seems like I've been missing out.
Never sleep on Precision Instrument on this. It is a natural .67ttk with 4 head 1 body. Instrument brings it to 3/2 on high resil, 2/3 on low. Its Target Lock for headshot junkies.
This makes me hope they reintroduce Spoiler Alert with Precision Instrument and make it Nadir. The stars cannot align enough since we are getting into endgame of the Light/Dark saga
I have terrible luck getting world drops from that season. I’ve gotten exactly 2 of these and ZERO of that PSI pulse rifles
Ok CRAZY idea here but hear me out: Why don't we remove the old non origin trait weapons from the loot pool? I have literally gotten 3 FWC weapons this week that are NOT updated to current weapon standards. I hear you ask, "what about the god rolls for pvp? I absolutely love *insert old gun here* and havent gotten my pvp 5/5 roll yet!", to which I respond, isn't that why banshee and xur randomly get those guns now? Either remove old guns from the random world drops, or take them out of banshee and xur gear rotations. Pick at least 1 and it would solve a lot of these rare gun problems
I've been a lightweight sidearm evangelist for a while. Back in the day, the only one I though could hang is the farewell since it rolled rangefinder. Redback is a solid option since it had inherently twice the range of the farewell.
But with the zoom change, all of the lightweights became playable. As long as you're using it as a sidearm, the lightweights are king. Slightly slower ttk than the adaptive (.067 vs .6), but its more forgiving (important as a cqc spam weapon), lightweight frame (inherently fast handling, higher jumps, and sprint speed), and manageably fast rpm (i hate full auto on sidearms. tap firing at lightweight max rpm is possible). Even without solid perks, the lightweight frames are carrying a lot of the weight.
That being said, the world drop weapon rate is killing me. I've had like 2 drop and I'm almost 100 in season rank. Give us a focus, or at minimum a rng skew towards the new stuff like coolguy suggests.
The drop rates of the world weapons drive me crazy. I'm +19 on the season, I have a fractured foot, so been playing a ton, and I have gotten ONE of these. I usually reset all venders on 3 characters every week. I can't tell you how many times I went to collect everything and get something like two Typhons and a Palmyra. Hell they are from S16, launch of the god damn Witch Queen!!
I got MT/Precision Instrument, feels crispy, just nabbed a RF/Adrenaline Junkie as well.
Just FYI, Bungie confirmed on Reddit that they plan to bring back focusing for foundry and world drop weapons next season.
Hopefully that should make getting weapons like this one just easier come next season.
I finally had one drop today while getting Wishender, and it's a pretty good roll imo. HFR or small bore, accurized rounds,enlightening action, kill clip, and RL MW.
This sidearm is amazing. I used it in trials and got most of my kills with it.
I got quite a few drops of this. One with kill clip and heal clip, stability MW accurized. One with heal clip and incandescent, range MW appended.
Enlightened kill clip (shitty left column and MW) and a few others sitting in my vault.
I run the heal clip kill clip and enlightened kill clip in pvp
Oooo I had north of 10k kills on my anonymous autumn with rangefinder back in the day on the sticks. Now that I’m on m&k Lightweights unfortunately feel TERRIBLE, can’t see a darn thing and no reticle friction to guide the way.
you forgor about spoiler alert. Also, I run this with tricksleves and Foreunner and I'm not only able to play aggressively, but supportedly as well since heal clip is AOE. And since this thing is a lightweight, I get a FREE 20 mobility so I can redistribute my stats better
Man, I miss the Rattler. Bring it back, Bungie... you may fear its power, but let them feel the backhand of God.
LMAO 9 of us. Dude, I play this game quite a bit (that's an understatement :)) and I didn't even recognize the sidearm :( The world drops are crazy rare.
I've been waiting for a lightweight sidearm for a LONG while. Takes me back to Zeal Vector every time I use one.
Obviously nothing hits like that used to, but it feels great to rip with a spam sidearm again.
I have a heal clip incandescent roll and an enlightened action kill clip roll. Haven't tried them yet.
EDIT: tried the Enlightened Kill Clip roll, it feels HORRIBLE in pvp. the recoil has it literally slapping you in the face when you're trying to aim.
It’s because of this gun I found out Enlightened Action and Precision Instrument existed. That dropped for me first day of the season. Honestly I wish I had kill clip with enlighten action now that I’ve seen it, but it’s a good gun either way. This thing melts people, but precision instrument is hard to stay on target with how that perk ends if you miss. Definitely want the Enlightened/KClip combo.
This weapon reminds me of 18 Kelvins of all things. Different RPMs but they both just melt targets with KC
I got this thing on the first day of the season, I have like 1000 kills on it or something. I don’t even have a good roll. It’s so bad, but I am in love and I can’t stop using it. Granted, I am very much a lightweight sidearm enthusiast, but still the best when I was in a very long time. Like since anonymous autumn went away.
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My only problem with it is the same problem that I’ve had with pretty much every light weight, except for the Ikelos you can’t see. The recoil doesn’t settle before the rate of fire, and your gun model just covers everything up. And you can adjust to it, you can get used to it, it just takes a lot sometimes.
i got a fullbore, accurized, moving target, and precision instrument + stability masterwork. haven’t tried it out but i might now.
Hello CG! Precision Instruments is a different Headseeker. 'Weapon hits increase precision damage'. Haven't messed around with it too much yet, but you may want to take a deeper look.
I love sidearms in PvP but SMG still need to be reigned in even more. They should be 21M max range that way it doesn't feel like you're handicapping yourself when you use a sidearm.
I actually have one! Heal Clip / A. Junkie. I just stuffed it in my vault to "try later"... I guess later is now ^_^
Mercules tweeted about Redback several months ago, and I discovered I had the same exact roll. It's been one of my all-time favorite Crucible weapons. So I'm keeping my eye on this one should I get a good roll to drop!
I just can't stand the sidearms with suppressors, the recoil animation makes it next to impossible to keep landing shots without a controller's aim friction (skill issue, I know), but I really wish that they would do something with ADS visibility with sidearms (and crimson for that matter).
Sidearms in general feel so weird to use. Somewhere in the Venn Diagram of reticle bounce, accuracy cones, range/stability, recoil animations, gun models, etc. the only way i've found to consistently hit shit is to gradually pull the mouse down to fight the bullets seemingly drawing up from the center of the screen like CSGO.
That being said, the only sidearm that I ever liked was a couple surplus Spoiler Alerts I had. I'm hoping to find a copy of this one at all since it has the same gun model to see if it holds up.
World Drop rates....ugh. Finally today dropped a shoot to loot + kinetic tremors Battle scar. I have dropped maybe 5 total since the start of last season. I have only dropped one of these sidearms with rangefinder + adrenaline junky
Should be a ghost mod, or setting, or SOMETHING that lets me make all legendary engrams drop weapons. I have gotten this thing to drop once!
If I'm gonna use a sidearm as a well sidearm I'm just gonna stick with my seventh serph sidearm with hipfire grip snapshot