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You don’t have to feel that way my friend, it is not your fault in any way… 👍 but maybe you should at least make sure that the current president of Madeira is out of there!?
I'm from Calgary, Alberta, Canada. We have a wildfire season every year but these past few years have been the worst on record. I've had the pleasure of visiting Madeira a few years ago and I'm very saddened to hear that these fires are happening there. Madeira is paradise and I hope that this stops soon. More than that, I hope that everyone is safe.
This breaks my heart. One thing that no one knows: For some reason, in Portugal fireman gets paid-bonuses per square meter burned! They are volunteers. In order to get paid a proper salary they have to do 12 hour shifts and they get paid extra per m2 burned. The bigger the fire, the more they get paid. I know this sounds crazy and nonsense but this is funded by the wood industry and allowed by the govermnent. Burned wood is sold in auction for 1/10 of the price and is still a useful tool for the industry. When houses are burned, the owners get a compensation equal to 1/4 of the real price of the land and the house. And this is happening now in Spain also. There is no interest to have as many resources as possible to extinguish the fire because they need the funded money to keep those same resources available and to pay the maintenance. Isnt ironic?
I'm from Coimbra, and just the sight of wildfires scares me, so hot and hard to breathe, the center region is affected by wildfires every year. If the fire reaches Pico do Areeiro, it has a chance to reach Funchal
The best that you Can do IS to change location if you Can . If you cant you must call thé firefighter to locate your position. Be prepared to quit quickly your house .
@@regardenmouvement Thank you, but since i live here i saw wildfires, they did not affected me at all, I do not live in the city, but live in the municipality. I could see the smoke of Pedrogão Grande (In high places with clear skies), and Just the smell of fire makes me alerted, and i need to see where the smell comes from. There was one time that i passed by a place called Senhor da Serra, and five days later, it was all burned down, the sign was bending, naked trees, even with no fire there, it was hard to breathe, it was too hot, and the smell was bad. But thanks for the hint, i hope i do not need to do that. The most scary one was the October 2017 fire, in my district, the media was saying that it was big and wide, but it did not arrived here. But i always stay alert in the summer
Hi Joen & Amalie, I thank you so much for the work you do in my love Island Madeira. You guys have been amazing informing as and a lot of people round the world. As well as I’m so sad, I’m also with mixed emotions, on which I’m inspired by watching you.
Plants can grow back, but humans can't, which is why "no one" is taking action, the terrain's so bad you can't even stand properly, let alone get fire trucks in there. Plus, you’ve got to think about the confusing it is to set up, refuel, and do it all again, all while dealing with steep, slippery ground and crazy temperatures. It’s just not doable, to many risks for loss of lives. Helicopters without ground support are also not very useful. I understand the rage towards the fact that not much is being done to stop the fire, but they will eventually figure it out, Portugal, madeira and açores are very common to wildfires, they know what they are doing. For example, if the fire eats the green and the front of the fire reaches a road for example, all that they have to do is kill the front of the fire with the help of the road, and boom the fire is no more with no risk of losing lives, well unless you count the green, that is sad.
@@joenandamalie Not that dramatically, but he has a point. It is how it works. Firefighters are "a big no" there, helicopters can't flight unless conditions are apropriate, Canadairs "deployment" means 6 tons of water falling on a relatively small area, which by itself can cause landslides and damage to the geography (that's why it isn't used ever on populated areas or infrastructures), It's not only the water, but the weight too that helps put out fires). Letting the fire rage and contain it's perimeter it's an absolutely valid strategy, the fire stopped short of Calheta (Paul da Serra front, on Saturday) using that exact strategy.
@@joenandamalie That's a radical way of saying it, but it's not wrong, also it's not the houses or the infrastructure but the people that relly on those, there isn't a safer way of doing it, anything else would allow to much risk, it's a harsh reality but as i said, the green will regrow. If i had bought a house in madeira and later found out that the great views are discartable, i would be pretty mad as well tho. We understand your points, we are just saying that, this is the way it works and it makes sense, the sooner you accept it, the best.
They really know what they are doing except when hundreds die 😂 no, Portugal doesn't know whatthey are doing. I've been in Madeira just this year and beyond the laurisilva fores is it just invasive species like acacias amazing for letting fire spread quickly. Yet Portugal is doing EXTREMELY LITTLE about having fire resilient forests and instead live the eucalyptus the acacias and the pines ! The most dumb and braindead fire management I've seen in all Europe. Really, I'm portuguese and too many decades of this shit
Thank you so much for the updates during scary, awful time. We planned and still plan on traveling to Madeira if it's possible in October. We hope we can get there and help the local economy, even if the trails are closed. We want to help keep the economy going. Fingers crossed they can control the fire soon.
As a Portuguese not only am I saddened but extremely infuriated with how this is being handled. How hard is it to understand that wildfires effects not only air quality, human and environmental health, their consequences extend far beyond the period while the wildfire is actively burning. Wildfires have many long-term effects on human health, wildlife and the environment . In addition to contaminating the air with toxic pollutants, wildfires also simultaneously impact the climate by releasing large quantities of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. It also impacts the soil such as erosion problems which can affect the land and local water sources. Unstable soil can contribute to mudslides, flooding events, and land degradation. I could go on and on. Portugal we are better than this, something has to change. Thank you Joen and Amelie for bringing us awareness to all of us. ❤ from the US
Miguel Albuquerque, the president of Madeira's regional government should be ashamed. He is acting like nothing is happening. He is more worried about protecting his image than actually solving the problem.
I saw some news that they are sending two firefighting planes from Malaga and they’re due to arrive on Thursday to help fight the fires. I seriously hope it gets sorted soon, it breaks my heart to see my favourite island in so much pain and damage. Burnt or not it it is still a beautiful place and I can’t wait to go back in October.
3:25 not all helicopters can carry water as it’s very heavy, and not all pilots are trained to do so. Also you need the water carrying bag with the release mechanism installed.
Hello. Do you know the history of wildfires in Madeira? I'm wondering if the local authorities don't have the equipment, infrastructure and plans because fires of this scope are a more recent phenomena, perhaps linked to climate change. And whether the same authorities have a plan going forward for addressing what will likely be regular fires every summer.
The idea that everything is ok by the government of the island is because Madeira is a semi dictatorship. in fact journalists are being unwelcomed and their job made dificult for covering the wildfires. It has happened before, the government tries to silence tragedies.., covering up what happens, and the image of the island.
Finally the planes are coming! Exactly the ones I told you in the last video. We have up to 4 here in our region if needed! 2x CL-415 are better than 20 helicopters. And the islands government isn't ashamed about there lack of competence and missing actions? I've heard that some of them nevertheless went into there vacation! That's a complete fail and makes me very angry!
2 water bombers are on it's way to Madeira now. Tomorrow afternoon they will start fire combating. The helicopter were flying without water because they were transporting the special firefighters to the top of the mountains
@@RafaelSimoes sea water is really really bad for the nature, in Portugal we only use it as a last resource option. In normal situations it's better to let it burn because it will recover faster rather than destroying a ecosystem with salt.
@@leonardobatista1322 I know, which is pointless, it will take forever. Bare in mind that plaines don't put out fires, this will only delay the fire and will prolongue the event, the fire needs to get into a place where the land means can takle it. This became political for no reason and those planes will make a couple of discharges just for the cameras.
Seems that the helicopter was transporting firefighters to Pico Ruivo. Still, Madeira and Porto Santo should have at least 2 helicopters for rescue and emmergy. I agree about nature, even laurisilva forests don't seem to be given value, only houses, people and infraestructure. Some species of trees like eucaliptos only damage the soil and promote uncontrolled fires, endemic natural forest is way more resilient against fires. First rain will make landslides and ash mud in the cliffs, in the levadas and water lines, ash and weak soil is always a problem, now and later, in the beginning of the winter. In a week and a half I'll be in Funchal to paint and draw, I was in Leiria Pine Forest and in Serra da Estrela after the big fires, it was impressive, burnt landscape is so sad, no noise from the birds or trees, only black squeletons... Thanks for trying to help.
Firefighting isn't reduced to just "throw water on it". The Helicopter was running recon surely, so they can trace the right course of action. Also you can throw 1 billion firefighters and it doesn't matter if they can't reach the fire. The situation is simple. All they can do now is make due, hopefully the Canadairs help. The homework wasn't done, that's the problem. You really "fight" wildfires before they start. We should've cleaner forests and fire-brakeing-trenches ready as summer starts. This highly flammable trees and shrubbery aren't native or apropriate to Madeira's summer, fires will happen, but we should be able to manage them if we prepare the field properly. "Limit" it's range.
I was near Malaga where they successfully put out two large fires within 24 hours or so, so I hope their help will make a difference. Sadly, the situation at the island is far more serious and the actions or lack of them of the government is totally incomprehensible to me. The nature so beautiful and valuable down there. Such views break my heart😢 How can one say it's normal and will be restored in one year??
Thanks for update...i've been on several levadawalks while on holiday on this beautiful island. However i was shocked to see several dogs chained at isolated spots (guarding holidayhouses without any humans there!).... are there also animalwelfare organisations helping out?🙏
Problem is that firefighters can’t fight the fire up there, the only alternative is to let it burn until it reaches places where they can fight it!! Even the helicopter finds it hard to reach some of those altitudes with water load, given that is a medium firefighter helicopter!! And because of the winds in some of the valleys the helicopter is no option!!! Of course there is bigger helicopters and planes in the main land, but they don’t have the autonomy to fly direct there!!! They would need to be transported by boat there!!! That’s why asking for help in air support to the main land and other countries is not a solution!!! If the decision to keep only one firefighting helicopter in the island is smart??? No it’s not !!! But that s what the autonomous govern of Madeira though was adequate.
I think it is a bit harsh suggesting firefighters and helicopter pilot are like nature sociopats. There is a reason why sometimes it doenst take the water bucket, it is called recognition flights. There are technical reasons why it doesnt drop water in the obvious places, usually because the local wind just makes it too dangerous. The number of firefighters is around 180, there are 700 firefighters in the island but for obvious reasons you cant have the 700 working at same time otherwise they would all go to sleep at same time 48h later. Salt water can have a dramatic effect in Laurissilva soils, the Canadair will refill water in Porto Santo (natural water).
It depends. Pico do Arieiro and Ruivo will likely be out of commission for a bit, but there's still the other half of the mountains to explore. Where people actually live, life is pretty normal. I think it's fine to visit, the "Picos" are awesome but they're just 1 of the many things to see.
F/u to my last comment…I have just finished reaching out to Morón U.S. Naval air Station in Seville, Spain, the Commander Action Line at Ramstein Air Base in Germany and also to the KMS Fire Station on Ramstein essentially requesting that they provide fire fighting assistance. My hope is that it might initiate some dialogue between those organizations and the Madeira government.
i understand your concern why there are no heli's with water. its very tecnical. you see, at those tall pick are so hard to dump water on them just because, first the heli need to negociate the terrain and at the same time safely dump what on that step terrain witch means climing and be on top of the fire. witch mean on top of all that heat. impossible, the engines will fail for sure and there is a serious risk of fire on the heli exposed to that heat. its not safe at all. its dificult ot acept it but its what it is. :(
Europe is finally sending two planes to help fight the fire. That was about time Love the island and visited it 12 times. I still remember a beautiful tree covered ecological park before it got destroyed by fire in 2010. The hike from corrujeira to poco de neve followed by the descent to Barriera via the levavda da negra was absolutely stunning ( Maybe this gives the tourist sector a nice opportunity to plan a few more cable cars, like the one these idiots in power planned for Curral das Freias ... )
Stupid government something need to do! Do they really not understand that everything will burn, no tourist will need Madeira anymore. Very good news about plan! But where was this plane 4 days ago when was small fire? Someone has to take responsibility for being so slow. :@
My dear friends in mainland Portugal (coimbra area) tol me that on the mainland there are several waterplanes and helicopters and they are brandspankin' new.... That's because the government just don't want to use them. Also the massive deforestaion of Pinetrees and thme being replaced by Euclypt trees is a very big concern by the people!! The Euclypt is known for rooting very very deep and taking up way to many water, so the earth is drying out way too fast. But also here: The governement doesnt care! My Portugese isnt that good but if i understood them right, the governement sells the Euclypt to the pharma industrie and that's why whe massive deforrestation an replacing takes place.... Money over safety. Ik hop the fires on Madeirs seize soon. Too bad the next tim i will be on Pico Ruivo it will look even more burnt than it already was but on the other hand, like in the comments on your last video; the fires are a part of Maderis/Portugal. Stay safe Joen and Amelie
Joen & Amelia, we've been watching your vlog concerning the fire and it is just terrible. Has the government there considered asking Rota U.S. Nava Base in Spain for help? I'm pretty sure they have helicopters and probably fire fighting equipment. This seems it would be the type of emergency/humanitarian effort they could help with.
Who is responsible for the repair of the levadas? Is Albuquerque going to support this? I would have thought that he of all people would be shocked at the image of Madeira that is being shown to the rest of the World. A stitch in time saves nine.
i've heard of so many huge fires all over the world in the past year or so, and some theories with some of the fires are about the governments themselves, the elite, some law enforcement, etc., are in on starting the fires for land grabs for some reason, some for 15 minute cities, etc...There's a channel called, "Hustl," which used to be called, "Hustle Bitch," (typing the old name in comes up more than the new name), but he was looking into the Lahaina, Maui fires and doing a really good job of obtaining info., but then over a year ago was silenced, though recently he came out with another video about the fires there...i believe in that video there is some footage of blue lasers starting the fires on purpose...i'm sure he knows more than most people what's going on with a lot of these fires....Law enforcement wouldn't even let people escape the fires there so some people died trying to drive out of town which was blocked by police...It seems like "they" wanted people to die for some reason...There were many coincidences there that led to the fires destroying everything on purpose which he talks about in his videos last year....And it doesn't help that websites like youtube advertise these flashlight looking things that ignite large flames, and arsonists are probably the ones buying them......i was thinking lately if Madeira was also going to fall victim to fires, though what would be the purpose of destroying the steep mountains in Madeira as i don't think anyone can live on the jagged parts...?......i just looked on windy.com and there's a section that you can click to see the active fires, (where the 3 dots are)...A couple hours ago, Madeira, indeed had a couple red dots, signifying fires there...If you zoom out a little you can see a huge portion of Africa is constantly on Fire and the governments don't do anything about it...i don't know how people live there...Also South America is having a lot of fires....Last month Mexico had a ton of fires...www.windy.com/?32.669,-3.110,5 Too bad the government, (and all governments), don't want to invest in sea-water de-salination plants around the island...Having large backups of water, figuring out how to transport the water up the mountains might be helpful, if that's possible... Also, be really careful when you travel to Mexico or anywhere, as there have been some people that have been drugged drinking water, or other drinks...Here are a few videos about it...1 ~ ua-cam.com/video/ZlKaeibzPVs/v-deo.html 2 ~ua-cam.com/video/dsDKM-eHyEs/v-deo.html 3 ~ This was 7 years ago but still relevant...ua-cam.com/video/vdION4rjuRk/v-deo.html
You said it all: 'lack of care', negligence, such Portuguese things. It's a biological crime that Madeira authorities and public services let the situation get so serious and destroy Laurissilva forest.
It will all grow back in a year. Wildfires are a very important aspect of a cycle in ecosystems and are beneficial to the environment in many ways. Just put a blue roof on your house and a sprinkler system and everything will be fine
Fire makes less harm to nature than salt water... if they use salt water the vegetation will take ages to grow , 10x more than actually does after the fires. But luckily they found a solution for the canadairs and lets hope the wheater conditions allow them to fly safely.
Absolute nonsense. The fires have detrimental effects. Already one of the rarest and most endangered sea birds have been pushed out of the island after the fires. It’s nesting season so the eggs have been taken by the fire. Additionally, after a fire the invasive species are prone to take over everything which means the vegetation will have little to no variation and uniqueness. Remember that salt water won’t be dumped on every hectar of the forest. Only on the fires.
What I cannot understand is that many ware saying that the helicopter cannot fly because of the wind, can i ask you what king of drawn you have BECAUSE IF A DRAWN CAN FLY DEFINITLY A HELICOPTER CAN FLY TOO.
Canadair airplanes can only be used in a non population area, the air drop of the water is very heavy. And since the wind has been strong, the helicopters have a low visibility to operate. All this and with the very difficult terrain, difficults the fire fight. Nevertheless, I do agree that leting the area burn, is not ideal.
Looks like they want Madeira burns down ! No mirical because as I know Portuguese already and sadly wise the most doesn’t really care about their beautiful country. See everyday that people throw cigarettes out of their cars and even trash and it’s full of trash everywhere my god. But luckily some are good guys and the treat Mother Nature with respect 🫶🏽 Hope all goes well 🙏🏽
And where would you like them to get all this water to put the fires out??? You do realize realize where you are on the map and that the island gets very little rain and that the climate is hot and dry
Don't forget to mention the tourists who don't respect the signs and the tapes blocking the entry of the levadas and put themselves in danger. Also, the people who go up to the mountains unnecessarily to make videos, take pictures and congest the roads, claiming to be journalists🙄
So, 2016 repeats. In crypto as well it seems. Do we live in a simulation?! Something that could be done is the share the GoFundMe code to the hotels. I am sure the tourists would love to contribute.
I think you are being so hypocritical it's untrue. You make your living flying from Corvo to Flores to protect your dog from waves. Unsubscribed because you made this
@@joenandamalie You are a travel vlog and travel, which is undeniable, increase greenhouse gas, then you get caught out? I don't really care. You have an insanely better house than I could ever afford and my contribution to global warming or climate change is a fraction of yours
@@jamescarlton408 - if you are talking about global warming, I can tell you that these fires are not "natural" fires. They were caused by either human error or human choice. No one knows for sure, but climate change is not related to the Madeira wildfires. Now go resubscribe! 😝
I know you are worried about nature but fire can be an important part of nature. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_ecology#:~:text=Ecological%20research%20has%20shown%2C%20however,even%20to%20exploit%2C%20natural%20wildfire.
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As a Portuguese I feel so ashamed that our government and Madeira's government is not doing more. I am so sorry guys.
You don’t have to feel that way my friend, it is not your fault in any way… 👍 but maybe you should at least make sure that the current president of Madeira is out of there!?
I'm from Calgary, Alberta, Canada. We have a wildfire season every year but these past few years have been the worst on record. I've had the pleasure of visiting Madeira a few years ago and I'm very saddened to hear that these fires are happening there. Madeira is paradise and I hope that this stops soon. More than that, I hope that everyone is safe.
This breaks my heart. One thing that no one knows: For some reason, in Portugal fireman gets paid-bonuses per square meter burned! They are volunteers. In order to get paid a proper salary they have to do 12 hour shifts and they get paid extra per m2 burned. The bigger the fire, the more they get paid. I know this sounds crazy and nonsense but this is funded by the wood industry and allowed by the govermnent. Burned wood is sold in auction for 1/10 of the price and is still a useful tool for the industry. When houses are burned, the owners get a compensation equal to 1/4 of the real price of the land and the house. And this is happening now in Spain also.
There is no interest to have as many resources as possible to extinguish the fire because they need the funded money to keep those same resources available and to pay the maintenance. Isnt ironic?
Fu*** ironic if that's true!!
Jeezus facking christ if this is true!
Thank you for the update. I live on the other side of the island. But it breaks my heart that so many trees are being destroyed.
🙏 for your safety!
Do you live in Santana?
Good news: The Canadair firefighter planes took off in Malaga and are on their way to Madeira
I'm from Coimbra, and just the sight of wildfires scares me, so hot and hard to breathe, the center region is affected by wildfires every year. If the fire reaches Pico do Areeiro, it has a chance to reach Funchal
Wildfires are super scary! We hope and pray that the fire won't reach Pico do Arieiro let alone Funchal!
The best that you Can do IS to change location if you Can . If you cant you must call thé firefighter to locate your position. Be prepared to quit quickly your house .
@@regardenmouvement Thank you, but since i live here i saw wildfires, they did not affected me at all, I do not live in the city, but live in the municipality. I could see the smoke of Pedrogão Grande (In high places with clear skies), and Just the smell of fire makes me alerted, and i need to see where the smell comes from. There was one time that i passed by a place called Senhor da Serra, and five days later, it was all burned down, the sign was bending, naked trees, even with no fire there, it was hard to breathe, it was too hot, and the smell was bad. But thanks for the hint, i hope i do not need to do that. The most scary one was the October 2017 fire, in my district, the media was saying that it was big and wide, but it did not arrived here. But i always stay alert in the summer
Hi Joen & Amalie, I thank you so much for the work you do in my love Island Madeira. You guys have been amazing informing as and a lot of people round the world. As well as I’m so sad, I’m also with mixed emotions, on which I’m inspired by watching you.
I am so sorry about this situation, it was one of my favourite holidays there.
Just donated to support the lovals, i hope more people will support.
Keep up the good work
Plants can grow back, but humans can't, which is why "no one" is taking action, the terrain's so bad you can't even stand properly, let alone get fire trucks in there. Plus, you’ve got to think about the confusing it is to set up, refuel, and do it all again, all while dealing with steep, slippery ground and crazy temperatures. It’s just not doable, to many risks for loss of lives. Helicopters without ground support are also not very useful.
I understand the rage towards the fact that not much is being done to stop the fire, but they will eventually figure it out, Portugal, madeira and açores are very common to wildfires, they know what they are doing. For example, if the fire eats the green and the front of the fire reaches a road for example, all that they have to do is kill the front of the fire with the help of the road, and boom the fire is no more with no risk of losing lives, well unless you count the green, that is sad.
So in other words, let the island burn, except the houses and infrastructure?
@@joenandamalie Not that dramatically, but he has a point. It is how it works.
Firefighters are "a big no" there, helicopters can't flight unless conditions are apropriate, Canadairs "deployment" means 6 tons of water falling on a relatively small area, which by itself can cause landslides and damage to the geography (that's why it isn't used ever on populated areas or infrastructures), It's not only the water, but the weight too that helps put out fires).
Letting the fire rage and contain it's perimeter it's an absolutely valid strategy, the fire stopped short of Calheta (Paul da Serra front, on Saturday) using that exact strategy.
@@joenandamalieyes, that is the only way out, and that is normal. Fire is part of our ecosystem.
@@joenandamalie That's a radical way of saying it, but it's not wrong, also it's not the houses or the infrastructure but the people that relly on those, there isn't a safer way of doing it, anything else would allow to much risk, it's a harsh reality but as i said, the green will regrow. If i had bought a house in madeira and later found out that the great views are discartable, i would be pretty mad as well tho. We understand your points, we are just saying that, this is the way it works and it makes sense, the sooner you accept it, the best.
They really know what they are doing except when hundreds die 😂 no, Portugal doesn't know whatthey are doing. I've been in Madeira just this year and beyond the laurisilva fores is it just invasive species like acacias amazing for letting fire spread quickly. Yet Portugal is doing EXTREMELY LITTLE about having fire resilient forests and instead live the eucalyptus the acacias and the pines ! The most dumb and braindead fire management I've seen in all Europe. Really, I'm portuguese and too many decades of this shit
Thank you so much for the updates during scary, awful time. We planned and still plan on traveling to Madeira if it's possible in October. We hope we can get there and help the local economy, even if the trails are closed. We want to help keep the economy going. Fingers crossed they can control the fire soon.
As a Portuguese not only am I saddened but extremely infuriated with how this is being handled. How hard is it to understand that wildfires effects not only air quality, human and environmental health, their consequences extend far beyond the period while the wildfire is actively burning. Wildfires have many long-term effects on human health, wildlife and the
environment . In addition to contaminating the air with toxic pollutants, wildfires also simultaneously impact the climate by releasing large quantities of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. It also impacts the soil such as erosion problems which can affect the land and local water sources. Unstable soil can contribute to mudslides, flooding events, and land degradation. I could go on and on. Portugal we are better than this, something has to change. Thank you Joen and Amelie for bringing us awareness to all of us. ❤ from the US
Miguel Albuquerque, the president of Madeira's regional government should be ashamed.
He is acting like nothing is happening. He is more worried about protecting his image than actually solving the problem.
Thanks for your coverage on the fires!... please keep them coming!🤗
Also thank you for the coverage about this, and for the founding campaign sharing.
I admire your care and love for the Island that is also in my heart
Thanks for the coverage in this beautiful place. Shame there is not more coverage.
Greatly appreciate the coverage as we have friends throughout the island and own a house in Santana and are very concerned
I saw some news that they are sending two firefighting planes from Malaga and they’re due to arrive on Thursday to help fight the fires. I seriously hope it gets sorted soon, it breaks my heart to see my favourite island in so much pain and damage. Burnt or not it it is still a beautiful place and I can’t wait to go back in October.
Yes! Will arrive tomorrow! They better solve the problem otherwise I don’t see where this will end.
Political move, they will not make much. They don't have anywhere to refill but the sea and that would be even worse. The fire will be over by itself.
3:25 not all helicopters can carry water as it’s very heavy, and not all pilots are trained to do so. Also you need the water carrying bag with the release mechanism installed.
I know, but the one we have should be there like a pendulum.
Hello. Do you know the history of wildfires in Madeira? I'm wondering if the local authorities don't have the equipment, infrastructure and plans because fires of this scope are a more recent phenomena, perhaps linked to climate change. And whether the same authorities have a plan going forward for addressing what will likely be regular fires every summer.
I just watched them put out a fire on the island of Sicily with helicopters and sea water. Normal operating procedure.
The idea that everything is ok by the government of the island is because Madeira is a semi dictatorship. in fact journalists are being unwelcomed and their job made dificult for covering the wildfires. It has happened before, the government tries to silence tragedies.., covering up what happens, and the image of the island.
Finally the planes are coming! Exactly the ones I told you in the last video. We have up to 4 here in our region if needed! 2x CL-415 are better than 20 helicopters.
And the islands government isn't ashamed about there lack of competence and missing actions? I've heard that some of them nevertheless went into there vacation! That's a complete fail and makes me very angry!
It's 7 days too late to bring in the heavy cavalry if you ask me. So much nature could have been spared if we had acted in a timely fashion!
@@joenandamalie I agree 100%, but better late than never!
2 water bombers are on it's way to Madeira now. Tomorrow afternoon they will start fire combating.
The helicopter were flying without water because they were transporting the special firefighters to the top of the mountains
They won't do much, no place to refill and planes don't put down fires, only firefighters can.
@goyakat2211 in the canarias they scoop water in the sea. But they don't have training to do that in Madeira. Let's see
@@RafaelSimoes sea water is really really bad for the nature, in Portugal we only use it as a last resource option. In normal situations it's better to let it burn because it will recover faster rather than destroying a ecosystem with salt.
The planes are going to be filled up in Porto Santo with normal water , it was confirmed today by the president of civil protection of Madeira
@@leonardobatista1322 I know, which is pointless, it will take forever. Bare in mind that plaines don't put out fires, this will only delay the fire and will prolongue the event, the fire needs to get into a place where the land means can takle it. This became political for no reason and those planes will make a couple of discharges just for the cameras.
Seems that the helicopter was transporting firefighters to Pico Ruivo.
Still, Madeira and Porto Santo should have at least 2 helicopters for rescue and emmergy.
I agree about nature, even laurisilva forests don't seem to be given value, only houses, people and infraestructure.
Some species of trees like eucaliptos only damage the soil and promote uncontrolled fires, endemic natural forest is way more resilient against fires.
First rain will make landslides and ash mud in the cliffs, in the levadas and water lines, ash and weak soil is always a problem, now and later, in the beginning of the winter.
In a week and a half I'll be in Funchal to paint and draw, I was in Leiria Pine Forest and in Serra da Estrela after the big fires, it was impressive, burnt landscape is so sad, no noise from the birds or trees, only black squeletons...
Thanks for trying to help.
Firefighting isn't reduced to just "throw water on it".
The Helicopter was running recon surely, so they can trace the right course of action.
Also you can throw 1 billion firefighters and it doesn't matter if they can't reach the fire.
The situation is simple. All they can do now is make due, hopefully the Canadairs help. The homework wasn't done, that's the problem.
You really "fight" wildfires before they start. We should've cleaner forests and fire-brakeing-trenches ready as summer starts. This highly flammable trees and shrubbery aren't native or apropriate to Madeira's summer, fires will happen, but we should be able to manage them if we prepare the field properly. "Limit" it's range.
Read this comment guys.
Also that story story from Hong Kong.......
I was near Malaga where they successfully put out two large fires within 24 hours or so, so I hope their help will make a difference. Sadly, the situation at the island is far more serious and the actions or lack of them of the government is totally incomprehensible to me. The nature so beautiful and valuable down there. Such views break my heart😢 How can one say it's normal and will be restored in one year??
Now I'm reading the local authorities know nothing of the help and did't ask for it. I hope it's not true...
Thank you for help helping madeira
It's our duty to help!!
@@joenandamalie i am glad to see and feel your love and your commitment to help.thank you
2 spanish canadair in Porto santo right now
Thanks for update...i've been on several levadawalks while on holiday on this beautiful island. However i was shocked to see several dogs chained at isolated spots (guarding holidayhouses without any humans there!).... are there also animalwelfare organisations helping out?🙏
Yes, check link in bio. Ajuda alimentares - they save all these animals!
Such a sad time for this absurdly beautiful island landscape.
Problem is that firefighters can’t fight the fire up there, the only alternative is to let it burn until it reaches places where they can fight it!!
Even the helicopter finds it hard to reach some of those altitudes with water load, given that is a medium firefighter helicopter!! And because of the winds in some of the valleys the helicopter is no option!!!
Of course there is bigger helicopters and planes in the main land, but they don’t have the autonomy to fly direct there!!! They would need to be transported by boat there!!! That’s why asking for help in air support to the main land and other countries is not a solution!!!
If the decision to keep only one firefighting helicopter in the island is smart??? No it’s not !!! But that s what the autonomous govern of Madeira though was adequate.
I think it is a bit harsh suggesting firefighters and helicopter pilot are like nature sociopats. There is a reason why sometimes it doenst take the water bucket, it is called recognition flights. There are technical reasons why it doesnt drop water in the obvious places, usually because the local wind just makes it too dangerous. The number of firefighters is around 180, there are 700 firefighters in the island but for obvious reasons you cant have the 700 working at same time otherwise they would all go to sleep at same time 48h later.
Salt water can have a dramatic effect in Laurissilva soils, the Canadair will refill water in Porto Santo (natural water).
I was all set to book a visit to Madeira. Is it best to wait, you think? Hoping all on the island are safe 🙏
I don't think it should ruin your visit here. It's still beautiful and remember that the majority of the island is still in tact. Please enjoy!
Everything is closed
It depends.
Pico do Arieiro and Ruivo will likely be out of commission for a bit, but there's still the other half of the mountains to explore.
Where people actually live, life is pretty normal.
I think it's fine to visit, the "Picos" are awesome but they're just 1 of the many things to see.
@@somedudeAPSthank God, and thank you for the info!
Thank You for your eyes... the plain bring water from Porto Santo.
F/u to my last comment…I have just finished reaching out to Morón U.S. Naval air Station in Seville, Spain, the Commander Action Line at Ramstein Air Base in Germany and also to the KMS Fire Station on Ramstein essentially requesting that they provide fire fighting assistance. My hope is that it might initiate some dialogue between those organizations and the Madeira government.
Thanks so much, Steve! Appreciate your help!
America! Fuck Yeah! 😂Thank you, this is the perfect display of American naïveté and entitlement as the saviours of the World! 😂
Aloha awe prayers up. My daughter s island had a bad fire a year ago. Sad.
i understand your concern why there are no heli's with water. its very tecnical. you see, at those tall pick are so hard to dump water on them just because, first the heli need to negociate the terrain and at the same time safely dump what on that step terrain witch means climing and be on top of the fire. witch mean on top of all that heat. impossible, the engines will fail for sure and there is a serious risk of fire on the heli exposed to that heat. its not safe at all. its dificult ot acept it but its what it is. :(
Europe is finally sending two planes to help fight the fire. That was about time
Love the island and visited it 12 times. I still remember a beautiful tree covered ecological park before it got destroyed by fire in 2010. The hike from corrujeira to poco de neve followed by the descent to Barriera via the levavda da negra was absolutely stunning
( Maybe this gives the tourist sector a nice opportunity to plan a few more cable cars, like the one these idiots in power planned for Curral das Freias ... )
Stupid government something need to do!
Do they really not understand that everything will burn, no tourist will need Madeira anymore.
Very good news about plan! But where was this plane 4 days ago when was small fire?
Someone has to take responsibility for being so slow. :@
My dear friends in mainland Portugal (coimbra area) tol me that on the mainland there are several waterplanes and helicopters and they are brandspankin' new.... That's because the government just don't want to use them. Also the massive deforestaion of Pinetrees and thme being replaced by Euclypt trees is a very big concern by the people!! The Euclypt is known for rooting very very deep and taking up way to many water, so the earth is drying out way too fast. But also here: The governement doesnt care! My Portugese isnt that good but if i understood them right, the governement sells the Euclypt to the pharma industrie and that's why whe massive deforrestation an replacing takes place.... Money over safety.
Ik hop the fires on Madeirs seize soon. Too bad the next tim i will be on Pico Ruivo it will look even more burnt than it already was but on the other hand, like in the comments on your last video; the fires are a part of Maderis/Portugal. Stay safe Joen and Amelie
Joen & Amelia, we've been watching your vlog concerning the fire and it is just terrible. Has the government there considered asking Rota U.S. Nava Base in Spain for help? I'm pretty sure they have helicopters and probably fire fighting equipment. This seems it would be the type of emergency/humanitarian effort they could help with.
Who is responsible for the repair of the levadas? Is Albuquerque going to support this?
I would have thought that he of all people would be shocked at the image of Madeira that is being shown to the rest of the World.
A stitch in time saves nine.
i've heard of so many huge fires all over the world in the past year or so, and some theories with some of the fires are about the governments themselves, the elite, some law enforcement, etc., are in on starting the fires for land grabs for some reason, some for 15 minute cities, etc...There's a channel called, "Hustl," which used to be called, "Hustle Bitch," (typing the old name in comes up more than the new name), but he was looking into the Lahaina, Maui fires and doing a really good job of obtaining info., but then over a year ago was silenced, though recently he came out with another video about the fires there...i believe in that video there is some footage of blue lasers starting the fires on purpose...i'm sure he knows more than most people what's going on with a lot of these fires....Law enforcement wouldn't even let people escape the fires there so some people died trying to drive out of town which was blocked by police...It seems like "they" wanted people to die for some reason...There were many coincidences there that led to the fires destroying everything on purpose which he talks about in his videos last year....And it doesn't help that websites like youtube advertise these flashlight looking things that ignite large flames, and arsonists are probably the ones buying them......i was thinking lately if Madeira was also going to fall victim to fires, though what would be the purpose of destroying the steep mountains in Madeira as i don't think anyone can live on the jagged parts...?......i just looked on windy.com and there's a section that you can click to see the active fires, (where the 3 dots are)...A couple hours ago, Madeira, indeed had a couple red dots, signifying fires there...If you zoom out a little you can see a huge portion of Africa is constantly on Fire and the governments don't do anything about it...i don't know how people live there...Also South America is having a lot of fires....Last month Mexico had a ton of fires...www.windy.com/?32.669,-3.110,5
Too bad the government, (and all governments), don't want to invest in sea-water de-salination plants around the island...Having large backups of water, figuring out how to transport the water up the mountains might be helpful, if that's possible...
Also, be really careful when you travel to Mexico or anywhere, as there have been some people that have been drugged drinking water, or other drinks...Here are a few videos about it...1 ~ ua-cam.com/video/ZlKaeibzPVs/v-deo.html
2 ~ua-cam.com/video/dsDKM-eHyEs/v-deo.html
3 ~ This was 7 years ago but still relevant...ua-cam.com/video/vdION4rjuRk/v-deo.html
You said it all: 'lack of care', negligence, such Portuguese things. It's a biological crime that Madeira authorities and public services let the situation get so serious and destroy Laurissilva forest.
The island is literally called "Wood" (Madeira) and they just let it burn.
Two Canadair planes are arriving tomorrow, i just read. 60 extra fighters from mainland are on the ground too.
Pray for rain.
Because Albuquerqe is more interested on having his holiday in Porto Santo people in Madeira should come out and protest❤❤❤❤❤
Don't worry. The president of the government of Madeira has returned from vacation today. So all will be solved now. #irony
It will all grow back in a year. Wildfires are a very important aspect of a cycle in ecosystems and are beneficial to the environment in many ways.
Just put a blue roof on your house and a sprinkler system and everything will be fine
I am actually so enraged by this!
Madeira need an NGO to look on the nature
Fire makes less harm to nature than salt water... if they use salt water the vegetation will take ages to grow , 10x more than actually does after the fires.
But luckily they found a solution for the canadairs and lets hope the wheater conditions allow them to fly safely.
Absolute nonsense. The fires have detrimental effects. Already one of the rarest and most endangered sea birds have been pushed out of the island after the fires. It’s nesting season so the eggs have been taken by the fire. Additionally, after a fire the invasive species are prone to take over everything which means the vegetation will have little to no variation and uniqueness. Remember that salt water won’t be dumped on every hectar of the forest. Only on the fires.
Hills which I can see from Sao Jorge are still burning...incredible...where is the plane?
Look at those grapes uva americana❤❤❤❤❤❤
Rain in forecasted for Saturday and Sunday. I hope its is contained before then.
Hopefully the fires will end ! ❤❤🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
What I cannot understand is that many ware saying that the helicopter cannot fly because of the wind, can i ask you what king of drawn you have BECAUSE IF A DRAWN CAN FLY DEFINITLY A HELICOPTER CAN FLY TOO.
Canadair airplanes can only be used in a non population area, the air drop of the water is very heavy. And since the wind has been strong, the helicopters have a low visibility to operate. All this and with the very difficult terrain, difficults the fire fight. Nevertheless, I do agree that leting the area burn, is not ideal.
You are the best 🙌🙌🙌
Aww! 🥰
Great job my friends!!!! 🥰🥰🥰
i just sent a donation.
... the 2 black cars at 6:21 are for sure the ones with Miguel Albuquerque!!!
I'm shocked like you are ...
Why didn't they declare an state of emergency from the beginning?
"talvez" porque o portugues precisa muito da calculadora...
Because it isn't one?
Time for Madeira to purchase their own 'Super Scooper' plane. Only cost 30 million!
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Looks like they want Madeira burns down ! No mirical because as I know Portuguese already and sadly wise the most doesn’t really care about their beautiful country. See everyday that people throw cigarettes out of their cars and even trash and it’s full of trash everywhere my god. But luckily some are good guys and the treat Mother Nature with respect 🫶🏽
Hope all goes well 🙏🏽
Incendios florestais preocupantes .
And where would you like them to get all this water to put the fires out??? You do realize realize where you are on the map and that the island gets very little rain and that the climate is hot and dry
The ocean like they do in Italy.
Hi guys!!!
It's so sad
So sad!
Don't forget to mention the tourists who don't respect the signs and the tapes blocking the entry of the levadas and put themselves in danger. Also, the people who go up to the mountains unnecessarily to make videos, take pictures and congest the roads, claiming to be journalists🙄
Hey, tell me, who are the real journalists?
madeira every year is the same 😂
"governo de m...."
Should we come their ? We do have a flight this weekend is it safe to come ? Nobody gave us some information
Yes its safe
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So, 2016 repeats. In crypto as well it seems. Do we live in a simulation?!
Something that could be done is the share the GoFundMe code to the hotels. I am sure the tourists would love to contribute.
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Portugal is shameful
Shut your mouth
normal in portugal, "made in portugal".
5000 hectares, not 10 000
Nah.. :)
Time to pack up and GO! 🎉
No. This is our home.
No, there is no danger. The fire is only in the high places where people and firefighters can't reach.
Time to move... Bali is nice.
I think you are being so hypocritical it's untrue. You make your living flying from Corvo to Flores to protect your dog from waves. Unsubscribed because you made this
What? What are you talking about exactly? 🙂
@@joenandamalie You are a travel vlog and travel, which is undeniable, increase greenhouse gas, then you get caught out? I don't really care. You have an insanely better house than I could ever afford and my contribution to global warming or climate change is a fraction of yours
I loved your video of Corvo but I don't think a travel vlog is sustainable for the very reason you are living in a forest fire area @@joenandamalie
@@jamescarlton408 - if you are talking about global warming, I can tell you that these fires are not "natural" fires. They were caused by either human error or human choice. No one knows for sure, but climate change is not related to the Madeira wildfires. Now go resubscribe! 😝
@@jamescarlton408climate change and global warming? 😂 haaaaa! In the Northern part of Madeira its freezing at night!
I know you are worried about nature but fire can be an important part of nature. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_ecology#:~:text=Ecological%20research%20has%20shown%2C%20however,even%20to%20exploit%2C%20natural%20wildfire.
Such a sad time for this absurdly beautiful island landscape.