Harley Sportster, Rear Brake Master Cylinder, Full Restoration!
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- Rear Brake Master Cylinder, Stripped, New Seals, Polished and rebuilt.!
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By turning it around arent you going to lose access to the site window to see how the fluid level is?
Great video, Del and Penny. Really nice job of refurbishing that master cylinder and I'm looking forward to seeing how it gets set up. I've said it before and it bears repeating - your video quality is excellent, from camera work and audio to editing. Del, you're a natural host and the dialogue is spot on. I realize that what we see for 11 minutes and 24 seconds is the tip of the iceberg compared to the hours of work that go in behind the scenes, and I appreciate it all the more for that. Take it easy, be healthy, ride safe!
Thank you so much kind Sir, that is very nice of you to notice and say such kind thing, you're right it is a lot of work, each production is a two day commitment, a full working day in the garage to capture the footage and between 5-8hrs editing and post-production, but as we go along we're getting a little better at it, capturing those shots and trying to raise the bar on our own personal standards... we feel this is important as we roll over a huge milestone in subscribers, we want to keep delivering better content all the time... there's still many out there far better than us in cinematic quality so we have plenty to keep up with! Thank you again, take care and all the best to you and your family!
I can't pretend to be a massive fan of Harley Davidson, I know some might call their bikes 'agricultural' and that their brakes come in for some criticism too, but you've got to give them their due, watching Del's build has opened my eyes to one thing, their general engineering is seriously rugged ! - It's strong and simple with no unnecessary frills (at least on the older, 'lower end' bikes) and coming from a classic British bike owning background that's something I can definitely relate to and respect...
Nice to see you have a Sporty, Mine is a 1991, XLH1200 one can really learn a lot about bikes
if they have the interest and the 'want' to want to keep her running, knowing how to do oil
changes, servicing the air cleaner understanding why spark plugs look as they do. I find that
working on my bikes is as nice as riding them.
All precisely done, always lay parts on paper towl myself now, so I don't lose any of the parts, your tips are rubbing off on me, great video Sir
Thanks buddy, glad you enjoyed it, always good to hear from you!
@@Moonfleet41 always greatly appreciated for your kind help towards others
Thanks man! I am doing this at the moment and it helps heaps! My cylinder was so clogged up that i did not even notice the small holes at first. Cleaning and putting it together tomorrow so lets see if it works. It was really, really erroded from some old fluid, probably they put the wrong one in. Thanks!!
No problem 👍, good luck with it.
Thanks for the exquisite detail. Now I see how the PO put mine together wrong. Great videos.
Was thinking but I'm not sure as I have never owned a Harley but the Aluminium parts must be that, Aluminium and not the zinc alloy found on Japanese bikes.
So the Harley Aluminium will retain it's lustre for longer.
Great result and looking forward to more ingenuity as the new story of the bike unfolds 😀
Awesome Del and Penny x
Sure thing mate, that's a good point, when you polish Harley parts they do tend to stay that way a little longer! Take care and have a great week and as always, god bless, D&Px
The before condition: *ewwww* The after condition: *ooh* *ahh*. I really do enjoy seeing every little task at hand being completed with the same care and attention to detail, no matter the individual humble piece in the big picture of a project, or maintenance episode. To me personally the journey is every bit as important as the final finish.
Thanks buddy, im glad you're enjoying the project, and yeah, every part is as important as the next..! (within budget lol)
Sponsored by Massey Fergusson! Holy smoke buddy I've seen smaller bmc's on a combine harvester! If HD made everything normal sized they'd all be 250cc singles! 😄
Any how that's enough of my sarcasm.
Nice and shiny works for me.
Peace and love brother ✌️ 🧡
I spelt Ferguson wrong , I'll leave it and see if any farmers troll me!
You're assuming of course that they know how to spell it right in the first place brother..? and yeah, chunky and robust, works for me..! Have a great week and keep safe aye.D&Pxx
@@Moonfleet41 Disclaimer . Del and I absolutely love farmers! ❤️
@@springy-2112 Absolutely, some of my best friends wear Barbour jackets !
@@Moonfleet41 ok , I'm all out ! My bag of witty retorts is empty! and I'm definitely not going down the Wellies route! 🤗 or is it Wellys? maybe a farmer can..................... I'll get my coat ...( barbour jacket) 🥴
Great filming and editing. Done a great job on the master cylinder. Looks like new.
Thanks Ray.. always appreciate your support mate.
All these little touches provide help for the would be renovators out there, and make your chine look like new. Great results Del 👍😎
Thanks Simon 👍, really appreciate your kind words mate!
Excellent video yet again from the human Haynes duo.
You are giving so many people the confidence to do it themselves.
Many thanks for taking the time to film and share.
Maggie and Mack, Huddersfield
So nice of you both to say such kind words, we both really appreciate that... we're glad to hear you're enjoying, plenty more to come! Take care and keep safe both.
Hi Delboy, i like your videos and follow your channel for years, but never commented.
Why do you convert the Sportster to chain driven? Belt is much better, no need maintenance, clean, doesn't stretch or wear lime chain, no need lubrication, and HD says it is for life (buell recommends the replacement in every cant remember the miles)
Chain is worse option than belt in every respect. Why do you convert it to chain-driven then?
In fact every other manufacturer should use belt. This is my opinion.
Curious about yours.
Only complaint would be to HD that the chrome plating of the pulley is quite crap and the belt wears it off but that is not the belts fault.
(And you are not the only one, I saw quite few sporis converted)
It has been very useful for me to repair the old pump on my Dyna, thank you very much!Greetings from Spain
You are welcome, we're glad to hear the videos help!
Great video as always Del! Must give Penny a shout out for some superb camera work. Great stuff folks.
Thank you so much Shaun, our Penny makes a fabulous job of making this 'monkey boy' look good! Always appreciate your feedback and always great to hear from you.
Not so sure about the 'monkey boy' Del. I am or was a plumber by profession (also had my own "shop"). My second choice of profession was always to be a mechanic and do what you do SO WELL.
Best to you both.
She's coming right along, Delboy! Any time I wonder how Harley managed to make the Sportser so very heavy for its footprint, all it takes is to look at each component and see where they used BEEFY components and said damn weight management... make it ham-fisted-proof and durable, and my answer becomes clear. I love 'em for it, heavy or not, especially when they've got a little age on 'em and out come the Vice Grips and the Big Hammer.Tractor-like becomes a thing to be admired at those trying times. Say hello to Madam Penny for me :)
Absolutely mate, nice to hear from someone who totally 'gets it'... Harleys are insanely over engineered in every aspect and I love that! I always thought it was in the frame, every Sportster is a 1/4 ton, but then I weighed the frame on this project and it's barely 20kgs! The weight's in the engine and then systematically, in every other component, engine mount plates made from 1/4" steel plate, wheels that weight more than a car wheel, like you say, they resist the ham fist and the vice grips and they're eternally repairable!
Hi Dell,
Harley's looking good.
Can't wait to see what you're going to do with the panels.
Before you use your wire brush on the bench you put something on it, like a big candle.
What is this and what does it do?
Simon
Hi Simon, that big green block is polish... often called 'Polishing soap'.. you apply some to the hard stitched wheel and it does the hard work of bringing up the shine.. then the white mop buffs off the polish residue.!
Thanks again man. The timing of this series of videos couldn't possibly be better 👍
Super travail 👍
Merci
Man! That came out so nice!!! It’s gonna look awesome.
Can I pick your brains about a Sportster issue? I’m replacing the neutral switch on my 2016 Iron 883 but for the life of me I can’t remove the sprocket. I’ve tried a gas powered impact wrench, a breaker bar, I’ve been soaking it daily in WD40, but it hasn’t budged an inch.
Any and all suggestions / tips would be greatly welcomed. 🙏🏻
Thanks mate for your kind words... and with your sprocket, you are aware that it's a left hand thread I presume? It undoes by turning clockwise?
@@Moonfleet41 Yes mate, I double-checked before starting, just to make sure I was supposed to be turning it counter-intuitively. Clockwise to loosen.
@@j-tizzle82 OK, if you caught the video I did a while back taking mine off, I did need a little bit of heat and a good 20 seconds with a 1/2" impact gun on full power and eventually it let go! They are renowned for tightening themselves up, the lock plate that holds them in place is actually to stop them over tightening any more... there's no easy solution mate, if a decent quality impact gun won't budge it, then perhaps a long breaker bar... make sure you're not holding it still just with the rear brake as the belt has a give to it that absorbs the impact reducing it's effect. Sorry I can't be more help mate, just a case of persevering!
@@Moonfleet41 cheers buddy. I haven’t tried any heat on it yet. I was worried it might damage the belt. But if you reckon it’s gonna help, I’ll try and give it a localised blast. 👍🏻 I’ll let you know how I get on.
It won't damage the belt if like you say, you keep it localised to the nut only.. but be careful of the rubber centre plug on the shaft..! just gentle heat to expand the nut slightly then hit it right away with the impact gun on full blast.!
Great video, it's really helped me out today. Do you have any details on the seal sizes. At a push I can measure the o rings, but it's the hydraulic seal I'm going to struggle with. Cheers
Sorry but i don't have data on the sizes, i just ordered them from the dealer by description, they didn't have any problems getting them for me !
@@Moonfleet41 thank you, I'll give them a call tomorrow.
Beautiful work as always Del and Penny ! The rouge and the buffing wheel are like a fountain of youth for alloy parts. The innards of the cylinder show how important it is to keep the fluid fresh. Reminds me I need to do that on my bike. Thank you both for all your hard work. I'm willing to bet there are big corporations out there that wish they could produce training videos of this quality. God bless and be well. ❤👍👍
Thank you so much for your kind words Rick, I've always thought it would be cool to make a corporate training video, but of course someone needs to ask for that to happen! And yes you're right, it's so important to change fluid, it builds up water content through condensation and rots the internals over time, checking the level on any hydraulic system is pretty irrelevant unless it's leaking to atmosphere! Have a great week there, D&Px
Very nice, Del. Shame the decorative bit will be facing the bike. Perhaps another brass badge is in the mix?
Oooh, I didn't think of that! And I can already visualise something pretty trick for that location... thanks mate!... that's why I love UA-cam!
9:18
THANKS FOR THE TIP💕👍👍
I like the simple goal of just making something grubby nice again. Quick question, would a much smaller rear master from a sports bike been an option? I suppose then you would be flexible where it could go and you might have been able to hide it away to some extent?
I guess I could have done, all things are possible, but however small it is, there's nowhere to hide it on this bike that's out of sight... so I may was well make a feature of it I guess!
@@Moonfleet41 I understand. Just wasn’t really sure if it is something that what have even worked 👍🏻
Nicely done, Del. Quite a restoration! What type of discs were you using on the bench grinder to get that master cylinder looking so good?
Hope you both are doing well? Take care- 🏍👍🏍
Hey Gary, good to hear from you Sir, the disc was basically a scotchpad, medium grade... kind of like a pan scourer but for automotive use... if you were thinking of investing in some they're also great for the M-i-L's knuckle callouses but of course when grinding those, make sure to wear PPE as the callous dust can get in your eyes and you wouldn't wanna breathe it in!
@@Moonfleet41 bwahahahahaha…thanks, Del! One has to wonder how these old gals get the callouses on their nether parts, though. Knuckles are perfectly understandable from the way they drag while walking.
Looks like it’s getting cooler in Blighty? You’ve been wearing long sleeves lately. Here’s its still stifling. Have a good one, my friend. 😎
Your disassembly of this is so methodical. Do you typically know the process of apart and back together or are you using the videos for reassembly?
Thanks mate, the brake pump is a pretty generic contraption, once you understand the principles of how they work, it;s obvious which part goes where, but in any first time disassembly of a differently designed set up, it helps to lay things out in order and pay close attention when disassembling, even laying washers, nuts and rubber boots in their line of assembly on some shop towel will act as a 3D schematic for reassembly!
You made that look so easy, a massive transformation 👏
Thank you! 😊
Nearly 200k subscribers! Well done to both of you! 👍🏻
Thank you, it's been a long journey, but we are so grateful 🎉
Therapeutic. 👍
Fine job...looks great! I like where this project is going!
Thank you kindly Sir, we're glad you're enjoying it, it's a fun build!
Excellent! Lookin' forward to the next installment!
wonderful! do you use a speciale grease for wet the orings and rubber parts? Or iss a general purpose grease? thank you, Stefano from Italy
Very satisfying to watch, lovely job. Also loving the pink toothbrush!
Thank you! 😊
It may be old age, or even tonlght's gravy, yet a subtle Millyardian viewpoint now pervades even the simplest mechanical observations, ie. for me 10:25 is no longer a well serviced Harley brake part, but the likely crankcase & block for an absolutely stonking 1/10th scale 1935 Bugatti engine - a little crank, some liners & . . . I know, just leave the gravy alone : )xx
No, no, send me some! I want to think the way you do!!
Saw Penny's eye roll from here! : )
Lovely job as always Del, I'm loving this resto project. What did you use for cleaning the master cylinder in the tray, it looked like thinners and cleaned it up a treat?
Thanks mate, the de-greaser was a straightforward emulsifiable product from Sealey, use it neat and it not only removes grease and grime, but also dissolves the loose rust and cleans everything up to clean metal! ...and being emulsifiable, it rinses off with water and is safe for the environment which is a must these does, don't you agree! Let me know if you want to buy some, I always invest in a big 25L drum as I know I'll use it all, but it does take me well over a year to get through it, comes in 5L cans as well, let me know if you'd like a link!
@@Moonfleet41 thanks Del, please send me a link and I will check it out. I wouldn't use much so it depends on how much it costs and 5L would probably last me a few years.
@@michaelmclarney1994 Here you go mate.. www.spanner-monkey.co.uk/degreasing-solvent-emulsifiable-5l-110940?search=AK05&description=true i use it in my parts washer and like here also in a tray for smaller jobs.. you can use it until it gets really black and filthy, it still does the job.. you can even filter it through some coffee filters and make it last years..!
@@Moonfleet41 great, thanks Del, I will check this out 👍
Another tip is to take things apart on a tray, it'll stop the little parts rolling off the table. It won't necessary catch the Jesus clip though.
Question - why can’t I see a by-pass/compensation port in the master cylinder reservoir? Do rear master cylinders on sportsters not have a second port?
What is the name of liquid for descaling master cylinder?
Here you go: www.spanner-monkey.co.uk/degreasing-solvent-emulsifiable-5l-110940?search=emulsifiable&description=true
Nice simple little refurbishment there mate
Nick Australia
Thanks Nick 👍
What is the red lubricant you are using? Is it safe for rubber to metal?
It's a castor based red rubber grease, specifically designed for rubber to metal interface!
Excellent refurb Del has come up good 👍
Thanks 👍
Nice video Del & Penny. Excellent job mate, looks just like a bought one. Penny and you enjoy the last part of the week. Cheers
Glad you enjoyed it mate, and yes almost the weekend, but still work to do ha ha! Have a great time yourself! D&Px
I follow your channel and enjoy and learn every moment
on the carriers of the clipper
What grease do you use?
and on the piston and rubbers of the caliper
What grease do you use?
The brake oil is dot 5 SOFTAIL HERITEG 1989
Thanks in advance
bloody smart.
Great video 👏🏼
Very Swiss too, looks great
Brakes were in definite need of some tlc
Sure were Paul!
What are those bolts holding the master cylinder ?
I’m trying to get a pair but couldn’t find for my 94 sporty
great as usual Del..enjoying this build
Cheers Tony, good to hear from you mate, thought of you today when I was at the garage and spotted your plate on the wall... hope life is good?
@@Moonfleet41 all good Del really enjoying this build my mate, cant wait to see the finished artical. love to you and Pen
Great video, thanks a lot!
What year is that sportster? Interesting design for master cylinders. Makes me wonder if parts still available for it.
It's a 2003 anniversary model.! and yes, every part of ordered for it so far is still on the dealer fiches !
@@Moonfleet41 looks older than that… smile
It's a shame that the new mounting position renders the sight glass useless. Oh well. I suppose it's better than trying to engineer a Rube Goldberg inspired system of linkages and what-not.
no squirt of oil interesting, set up. Good work dude.
Awesome bro.
Brakes are tricky. Everything has to be replaced perfectly to avoid problems.
Good work, Del. That Master Cylinder is set for a long time.
Cheers
Thanks Eric👍, you are right, pretty important to get right.!
Hi, I’m from nicaragua Central America, I have a 1200 xl custom, I’m learning from you, thanks for all your videos , see you later, where are you, England?
Thank you for your kind words, we're glad to hear you enjoy the videos!
Delboy I use a one quart freezer bag with a small white panel for labeling and it much easier to read and write on
Thanks Robert, great tip!
Great Video awesome job The little details make it all worthwhile Del 👏👏👌👍
Thanks Chris. Glad you enjoyed it mate.
I just caught this video, what lube are you using on the assembly?
Awesome video Del. I love how you recondition the older parts.
Glad you enjoyed it buddy, we really appreciate you watching!
When are you going to do some work on the Honda early pre 2007 VT 1100 Series ?
Thanks
Great job my friend...brakes like New one!!!!
Thanks 👍
Hopefully your ladies over there don't look like the inside of that master cylinder, all dirty and nasty. I can't get over that motor tho behind you. wow you did a great job on it!
Thank you Jeremy, glad you approve sir. !
Where in the wide world can i buy the "seal" that comes into the piston. Not the O-Rings but the seal. That one you got from a red cabinet. PLEASE HELP ME
PRESSURE SEAL, WHERE CAN I BUY IT SEPARETLY
Main dealer..?
Outstanding work, every turn was a delight to watch. Such an important piece of gear being restored to as good if not better than when it was new. I've said that before in this series. Stunning work and a delight to watch, thanks :)
Thank you very much Tony!
Where I find these two new seals for internal parts?
Main dealer!
@@Moonfleet41 Do you know the part number of these seals?
@@lucasbaalberith Not off the top of my head, if you call the dealer and tell them your make/model/year of bike they'll be able to find the parts for you.
Good refurb looking very nice
Thanks Andy 👍
Brilliant work as always Del. Methodical, keen eye for detail and great that the refurb cost you nothing in parts! Will look bloody amazing on the bike too. Hope you and P are both keeping well mate?
Thanks so much buddy, it's always great to receive your kind words of support and encouragement!
Another great video brother! day and night difference 👍 I have the same gasket/rubber kit and I cant tell you how many time it saved my ass lol best purchase ever ! this project keeps getting better and better!!! keep up the great work stay safe guys cheers from new york !!!! 🥂🥂🥂🍺🍺🍺
Ah, glad you like it brother, we're happy with how it's going so far, and it keeps us motivated knowing it's enjoyed along the way with us! Stay safe both there and chat soon! D&Px
Job well done!
Thanks Mike.
Hi , do you have a video , where i can check how i can thight that kind of break sistem, my pedal is a little lose, thank you broo
That is a quite nice design on that. Since i have never worked on Harleys I haven’t seen it before, but I quite like that. Can’t wait to see how you mount it and the foot control.
Thanks buddy 👍, Harley always manage to engineer things a little differently!
Excellent & Fantastic job, keep doing what you love with a passion. Michael from Greece !!
Thank you very much!
Excellent
Your front tyre is on back to front ! As it rotates on a wet surface it will dispel the water into the centre of the tyre instead of away from.......
The arrow is pointing in the direction of rotation, so I guess you know better than the manufacturer!
We’re did you get the rebuild kit
You going to make new cap?
From grime to shine. Very nice 👍🏻
Thanks mate 👍, well put!
my mid week fix ✔
Transformed!
With the master cylinder rotated, will you have access to the sight glass to determine fluid level?
No you won't, that will be a trade-off, but with the lid so easily accessible, then once in a while, 2 screws and I can take a peek inside!
So close to 200K subs
Yes mate, hope to roll over at the end of the month, we are truly grateful!
Great !
Not sure if I'll get a reply but I have a need for a seal for the same master cylinder does anyone know what the part number is. Harley only want to sell me a replacement cartridge. Hellllp
You need item 24.. a repair kit www.jerseyh-d.com/original-harley-davidson-parts?year=20&modelcode=Sportster&part=1405
Thanks. I'll have to bite the bullet and spend some cash. I know the kit is available but seeing dell pick just the main seal on its own from the spares he had I though it may be possible to get the same item separately
Excellent Del
Good job Del✌️
Thanks mate👍
Always good!!
thanks! yesterday did similar work.. bad I you posted it only today.. would be much of help... what liquid do you use for cleaning stuff? appreciate
Thanks buddy, much appreciated, glad you're enjoying it and wish I had posted it up sooner for ya! And for cleaning I use a fully emulsifiable (washes off with water) de-greaser and I use it neat... just floats the grime off, even dissolves old rust pretty well!
perfect!
Looking really good Del - can't wait for the next episode
M
thats has turned out stunning del outstanding job yet again m8 atb iain
Thanks Iain, glad you approve mate.
Cool
Great video ,attention to detail is superb, best wishes mike,Derbyshire
Hey Mike, good to hear from you mate, thanks for your kind support!
PURE work of ART Love it
Thank you Adnan!
Excellent. I can't wait to see the new foot controls.
They were and still are on my Sporty when I bought the bike, nice as I can have
legs str8 out for shifter and rear brake.
Is there any engineering / technical reason for torx screws or can I replace them with socket screws?
I replaced the torx screws in the derby cover with stainless steel, dome cap allen screws, much better and less likely to mince out.!
@@Moonfleet41 Thanks. I was thinking the same. The threads are dead in the lower hole of my derby cover. I had to replace the torx with a 1/4 allen to get enough torque. You never know what you'll find on a 22 year old bike!
Nice job Delboy.