Redesigning Characters from HAZBIN HOTEL
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- 💛💛I try my hand at reworking some of the character designs from the Hazbin Hotel Pilot! 💛💛
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I really wasn't a fan of the cast's appearance for this video so decided to try and make some changes. I know the changes don't look all too good either but oh well! I guess they still get my point across.
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Hazbin hotel is good
Its kinda rude fixing someone's art ngl
@@Sidwilson_number1fan yeah
@@Sidwilson_number1fan yeah really is being rude
@@johnathangaming Well at least she apologize
Vaggie gained weight
Charlie grew 5 inches
Angel dust is a poison/psychic type
And alastor is wearing saiyan battle armour under his suit
Nobody:
Alastors shoulders: *im gonna be w i d e*
The Master Tanker
His shoulders got chonk
if I may: Charlie is 6' 2" in her BIO on the Wiki... so... I think she's just having her heigh be better represented.
@@JE-zl6uy Wiki is a terrible source to go by....
@@JE-zl6uy i think every character is supposed to have a sort of Anorexic look to them
The reasons why Angel has the 3 spots under each eye is to represent the other 6 eyes that that spiders have, so I feel like those could’ve stayed and the other spots could’ve gone.
I agree with that statement! :D
His spots come from the type of spider he is, I find it cute
KenDraniece Pennywell a jumping spider?
@@JamesTheFoxeArt No... its daddy longlegs :)... Forgive me but I just had to say it
Aren't the 3 spots under each eye nostrils? If you watch the music video for "Slutty Spider Polka" you can see Angel Dust, presumably post-drug inhale, bleeding profusely from 3 of the holes, much like the cliché of people bleeding from the nostril they just snorted coke from.
Redesgining characters is totally fine and can be a great exercise. But the moment it is called "fixing" it becomes rude
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Yeah
Pretty much
I totally agree and honestly, everyone has their style
Yea
“It says nothing about her character”
Also the x: *is literally the way to show how she died*
Oh lord this just made me think of a theory.
Vaggie is a lesbian, and was Salvadorian. If this is meant to be El Salvador, it’s highly likely that her death was both a hate crime and sex crime.
@@hannahw4328 probably was.
ngl I never thought of that. That is a problem too. It shows that there are so many confusing moments, you don't get it. The X doesn't have anything to add to the character.
@@hannahw4328 its not- viv literally said it isn’t
@@mangumsopus8107 ok?
“I removed the x because it says nothing about the character”
The x’s on the characters represent wounds I think. They are a hint to how they died.
Mhm. Vaggie was shot in the eye I think
@@woahwoahwoah7530 she was raped and stabbed in the eye is what I'm hearing
it was confirmed by viv that the look of the characters have nothing to do with how they died
@@bird5485 in what? Ive NEVER heard that
xEbzyx on a podcast or something can’t remember
Green Alastor doesn’t exist, he can’t hurt you
*Green Alastor enters the chat*
A
He looks like a broccoli
I don't like green Alastor, he's too ugly Red Alastor is better.
Me; Mom, can we get an Alastor
Mom; No, we have an Alastor at home
Alastor at home; 14:52
I-
I don’t like it
Maybe do a little research before “fixing” their designs.
Alastor should have horns- he’s a deer demon
Angel dust is a spider demon (eight eyes)
Vaggie’s X is a hint of her past
Charlie- ok she’s just Charlie, you basically redrew the design
Ya, Charlie is just Charlie if she had broken hips and was trying to be cute despite being ugly.
@@Corrinecreates wow, not nice
@@Corrinecreates so you want her to be sexualized, okay.
No no no, they describing how Charlie looks in the redesign, not their original.
@@WhatIsMyLif3 wow, be careful there, buddy. Don’t just throw accusations like that randomly. That’s Twitter’s job.
I like the fact that she talked about the color pallets but took a random color to make a terrible version of alastor
I can't look at him the colors don't match and pallet is horrible!🤢🤮
👏if👏it👏isn't👏broken👏dont👏try👏to👏fucking👏fix👏it👏
Ugh terrible my sweetie!
HE'S GREEN! IT'S GROSS
She made him the onceler from the Lorax 😭
I think your criticism hit the nail but I personally didn’t like the redesigns.
I agree the spoken criticism was good but the redesigns were not my favorite but It was over all a good video
i agree too
I agree. I like the originals!
....Yeahhh I don't like it too much either. I don't feel like some of these designs would belong in the setting of Hazbin Hotel.
( Not trying to be rude, if you like it, that's fine. This is just my opinion.)
I also agree
I feel like the green on Alastor just really doesn’t work.
Ye, red was better for him really.
I feel like I'm the only one who liked Alastors old design, personally it felt at least different and the colour suited him though I could see the complaint that everything is red but the colour for his smile and everything about him was so distinctive I just loved it
@Meppity I think maybe you should have kept alastors skin colour the same as the original design, as I think the greyish colour would have looked smoother on the eyes with the colour palette you used, I’m sorry, it’s just the fact that there are smooth colours such as a reddish orange, a flat dark green and a slightly lighter shade of green , mixed with something like a turquoise, just doesn’t work, I think it would have been better to keep his original skin tone. Sorry, it’s just my opinion ☺️. Beautiful and intelligent work nonetheless 😊
I think his red works, just not with the backgrounds in the show. I don't think the green was the way to go though. Maybe browns, yellows, and some reds. Like his suit would be brown with hints of burgundy/crimson red here and there, red hair would be red with hints of burgundy, and then his teeth, eyes, etc in that creepy yellow. Idk, but because of the backgrounds the red needed to be toned down a little. Def not green though 😂
Purple might have worked, or a mix of red and purple?
These redesigns feel more like “boringifying” the original designs
Thats the point
She literally said to make it easier to animate 💀 she is looking at this through Industry standards. You don’t have to line up with those standards but she isn’t doing much wrong
@@rowen6346 you can have an easily animated character thats still interesting to look at. It’s just my opinion
SilverFeather yea and that’s what she tried to do. I just think if this was a different piece of media people would not be this defensive.
3:34 Uhm, you do realize that those are different artstyles from different shows, also, those are popular characters, well known all around the world, and you're comparing them to Hazbin Hotel, a not so popular show, with a different artsyle. And you're comparing them to a single episode, not even an episode, a pilot.
lets compare all the pilot designs to hazbin pilot designs
most importantly, the style of the shows and the ideas behind the characters, all of those characters are the least human look alike designs tbh, which with Hazbin Hotel they are way more humanoid, if they were to design in a more childish style it kinda takes away the point of the show and makes the characters look goofy
It’s like complaining that cartoon designs are too round or exaggerated.
Am I the only one who likes the x on her eye?
Megashrek I do too! It’s mostly a matter of practicality unfortunately.
Im 60% sure its there because shes a fallen angel but she might not be
I do. It's interestingly odd.
Anyone notice it sometimes moves with her Eye
Attention to detail
I like it
I do!!!!!
I feel like Alastor’s “fixed” design didn’t work for his character type. He seemed less threatening, less powerful.
He looks like a cheap tailor
Yea same I didn’t like it, it felt like it wasn’t fit for him you know I think his because of the shirt I hate the most
watch her new re-redesign video, he looks even more threatening than the original in it.
Exactly!
Also add the fact he doesn’t have his antlers anymore
Alastor hair snd feet are like that because he is a deer demon. Also, it seems more like you just dont like her art style. Also, it is probably meant to look chaotic and monotone. They are in a place not exactly meant to be calm, and they are all of the same pattern and clolour scheme to show they arent exactly free to do whatever they want.
*preach*
I love how almost everyone has a lumity pfp
@@fanficanimator7864 :)
What does being a deer have to do with it?
@@crussteasock4047 His shoes were more like hoofs(idk if they're called hoofs)
also, the ears look a lot less like a deer's ears
It’s a hell plot, that’s supposed to be there colors and character designs lots of reds, evil smiles, and those “unnecessary signs” can represent tattoos and other things. They are demons not humans
the x symbolize stuff in there life that are key details about them not tattoos, alastor has one on his head (he hides it well i swear its there) angel doesnt have one cuz he didnt die like a wound but more of a internal thing (drugs) charlie never died or lived on earth and has none ect ect...
@@leoneyamada5408 some people do theorize that Angel dust has his right or left eye black being due to his brother punching him,I don’t really know what to think of that but yeah,sinners do have some marking on them as a symbol as the way they died like you said like imps in a way,how white markings come when ever they are injured there.
I'm no artist but I do know this:
The reason why most characters have sharp edges and triangular shaped heads is because the triangle shape suits the more evil characteristics. If you look at Charlie, she has a more circular face shape which suits her character and gives off a sweet and cute feel to her! But because this is hell, of course none of the people would be as sweet and cute as Charlie, so circular shapes just won't fit there!
_i hear you but if everyone has the same build and colour palette, you'll have a forgettable cast_
@@roseqore8073 I seriously don't understand this though. When the character silhouettes were all aligned I could tell exactly who they were? And the comparison to that was just wack cause she put the silhouettes of charcters ALL FROM DIFFERENT SHOWS. All of her Vizie's charcters are distinct and different from each other, people have just gone so overboard with their snooty criticism that this is why sjw art and calart happens, and then people criticise THAT which is what they wanted. Nobody is allowed to have a style anymore? They all have different body types no matter what, they all have to have different colour palettes no matter what, they can't be too over the top, the have to be just right, and if your art is damn perfect according to the eyes of a large chunk of the art community, it's broken and needs to be "fixed", I would legitimately feel devastated if someone was so rude and inconsiderate to take my creations, the creations I draw when I'm sad or think about when I'm happy, my creations which are my special interest, charcters I pour my heart and soul into, even loosely based off of myself! And someone looks at them, went and redrew them to only their preferences and likes then handed them back to me, told me they were "fixed" and that my design was shit. People focus so much on physical design they forget the most important part. The personality! The background! The past! The plot! The interactions! We're still in a society where we judge based off of looks, and personality later. It's not the looks that makes a person, it's a factor for sure, initially, but no matter how ugly a character is, if you fall in love with their personality all of that will be forgotten. We so easily disregard a characters whole development based off of how they look and forget about how much they actually mean to the creator, people need to stop being stop, stop right now "fixing" characters, it is the most rude, inconsiderate, unnecessary thing you could ever do.
@@Jovviial
_in the nicest way possible i cannot physically read all of that because of my reading issues. can you give me a tldr please?_
@@roseqore8073 aw yeah you cool my friend, I understand
True thank you
"to have someone thicker in to the cast"
*Let me introduce YOU to **_Mimzy_*
The details are not "unnecessary", the characters design have to do with how they died and what their life was like on earth
As an artist, redesigning someone's oc without their permission is something i would not dare to do. Because i know that if someone redesign my ocs to make it "better" for them, i will throw hands.
Hazbin Hotel is in a public website and everybody is free to do what they want, you can’t stop or control people to not redesign a character, it happens with Harry Potter and other famous characters, if someone is offended by that knowing their characters are in public, they might reconsider posting them online.
@@cryptical1210 lol they can redesign all they want. This is the internet afterall. Its just something i wont appreciate if they change my oc fully to fit for their liking. And if you're decent enough, you wouldn't do that to someone's character you know?
@@bubzee9177 well that's you and your opinion. It does not mean everybody is like this, perhaps Vivziepop might not even care
@@cryptical1210 So are you saying that if i share something in a pubic website i no longer own the thing and everyone can use it without my consent? What about copyright?
@@leoaceves2652 Yes actually. There’s a thing called fair use, I can take your creation and create parodies or new designs or whatever the fuck I want as long as I don’t sell it. Copyright protection only stops me from claiming your creation as mine and/or selling it.
*proceeds to make alastor green*
Don't cry don't cry don't cry don't cry don't crrrrryyyyy
ME LMAO i was like
"Our strawberry pimp...😪😪"
😂😂😂
Green just doesn't go with him. It's definitely not his color
@@mintsmooth860 íkr
Now he's a green apple pimp-
The X on Vaggie’s eye represents the wound that she died from, which Vivziepop mentioned in one of her streams. The dots on Angel’s face under his eyes are supposed to allude to the fact that his character is based off a spider.
U had my old YT channel profile omg XD
The X thing repsresenting a wound is a good idea, however, why is it only on 1 character, shouldn't it be on every character if it represents a wound they died from, because you know, people in Hell are - *dead* ? And the fact that she explained it on a stream and not in the show gives me a feeling that she put the X in order to make Vaggie pop out more and later came up with that explanation.
The dots make no sense since a lot of spiders don't have dots on them, but almost all spiders have 8 or 6 eyes so why put dots to make Angle more spider like if it doesn't help, putting more eyes on the character would have helped in showing that they are a spider
Милош Вишић First of all, Vaggie isn’t the only one with the x. Sometimes you can see alastor with an x on his forehead. The reason why other characters may not have the x because they died of something not wound related, like an overdose. My guess is that the x represents bullet wounds, because a very big guess about alastor’s death is that he was shot by a deer hunter and another popular theory about vaggie’s is that she was sexually assaulted and then shot. For the angel dust thing, the dots are supposed to represent eyes, so idk what you’re trying to get at there
@@user-pi6eb3qj4s Alastor has a small X on his forehead, implying that he was possibly shot
@@organelle5277 Why does Alastor have it only *sometimes* and other times he doesn't? You can't just give a character a trait they sometiems do and sometimes don't, that's just either bad design or lack attention to detail.
Dying from causes not related to wounds could still be reptesented with other symbols, and gun violence/war is still a big problem for our world so shouldn't a lot of background charaters have Xs on parts of their bodies? (And about Vaggie, theres also a theory that she got killed in a hate crime by being strangled so yeah in which case the X has no meaning, they're only theories so yeah)
They don't look like eyes they look like dots, if the characters had simple dots for eyes in that case the dots would fit but the characters don't and therefor thry don't fit. (For clarity I'm refering to Angels pink dots on the hair, not the ones on the cheeks)
Omg these “fixed” designs look like actual crap, i cannot imagine them moving, they feel like they are from different cartoons
Btw, wtf is wrong with Alastor “fixed” design? It’s literally green?
@Creator! Sans jezz calm down 😂
He looks broken. Literally broken. Ok, I know what stylization is. But there is a distinction between "yes, it looks special" and "it's too special, eccentric and only for small auditory".
I feel like if that bright portion of his hair wasn't red, it'd look much better.
But she hardly changed the iconic parts of the originals, just gave them more distinctive colors and body shapes and got rid of some details.
@Creator! Sans same
@Creator! Sans bruh lol
Her: everyone is so skinny and has long limbs
*Proceeds to turn Charlie into a spider*
Lol
Proceeds *
loll
Proceeds to make me scared of Charlie
Don’t see the issue with it. Kind of confused on the intentions behind your comment. Is this an attempt at insulting the creator? If so, kind of hypocritical considering how this comment is insulting them as well but anyways.
I'm pretty sure that Vaggie has only one eye, so the reason the X jumps around and gets manipulated and contorted is because it represents where her eye *used to be,* and where she *would* be currently looking if she still had one there.
You may or may not be right I’m not entirely sure but people have said that Vivzie has said that the X represents how she died like how Alastor has an X on his forehead to represent how he was shot in the head and killed
Leloo the MelonLord actually Alastor was mauled by dogs, so that can’t be what it represents.
Montyistic well it could be a mark of voodoo to show a deal was made
Azairence Robinson should still be more consistent, I had this problem with Vaggie as well. Seeing it constantly move up and down, showing above and below her hair got distracting and annoying.
Imo the original is way better, and saying you "fixed" something when you didn't even consider why the characters are the way they are in the show is pretty darn rude
It's not the consideration of that character and why they were designed that way the point is they didn't create the damn thing they can criticize it all they want but say they're going to fix it it's almost like saying they're going to claim it and act like they made the characters themselves when they didn't it's not fanart what these people are doing is borderline art theft but because they keep saying oh this doesn't belong to me it belongs to this person but clearly their s*** who doesn't know how to draw so I'm going to show you how to do real art get on my level yet I'm pretty sure this b**** doesn't know how to do animation and nothing on vivziepop and her team's level
@@emilyrose9854 you good there bud
@Icchan und Ikkun but she obviously doesn't care about the crew who made hazbin Hotel or else you wouldn't be saying this s*** it wasn't even critique it was downright demolishing of a creation without evidence saying the same line I'm not a professional but I think I can fix something that I had no real interest in or any hands in its creation it's just arrogant I don't understand why she cares in the wrong way people like to get on those producers and Hollywood types for taking a piece of medium they know nothing about and try to make something out of it pissing off people who like the original yet you have originality going on and people who are upset about something that happened a long time ago and was nothing egregious are trying to cancel this woman and her project which makes no sense to me and it's insulting to artist who apparently are supposed to just sit back and let these people vent and express themselves when it's very hateful
@@diamondrainfall8789 that's the joy of animating, it's a pain but it's amazing once it's done
@@emilyrose9854 dude the f***ck is wrong you
There’s no need to “fix” the style, it’s perfectly fine.
Fr
Im no artist but-
You didn't fix it ma'am you drawed it in you're own ART STYLE.
“Let me know if you think I was too harsh on the original designs?”
Like to dislike ratio: *y e s*
Charlie: not changed
The girl she drew fat: fat doesn’t mean good
Radio guy: vomit colored, looks hella stupid
Transvestite: the same except stripes
Overall rating: -3/10
Explanation: first of all fixing is stupid, second of all if you were really sorry you would have deleted the video or taken the ads off of it, third 2 of the characters were barely changed in any way, fourth the other 2 look 100x worse than the originals, and finally the like to dislike ratio shows that people didn’t like the video anyways. This video is cringe.
@@gigachad7729 who is transvestite
@@LacedAceX process of elimination and whoever the person with like four arms is
@@gigachad7729 angel isn't trans in any way tho?-
@@LacedAceX Angel Dust. He’s a guy with very feminine features
The “X” on Vaggie shows how she died. Though I agree it should be minimalist it is a must keep
Didnt vivzepop say that the character designs dont represent the ways the characters died
If that's the case, shouldn't every character have a key spot that reflects their death? As creative as these designs can get, they really need a central theme that links them all together. It's all just so distracting.
In a random stream with Viv (forgot the name) she says that Alastor was shot square between the eyes. A brief flash of him using his powers shows an X right where he was shot.
I thought the most common theory is that Vaggie is a fallen angel because of the X. All the angels in the opening sequence have X's over one of their eyes, and Vaggie is the most not-red character on the cast, maybe because red is for hell and grey/white/lighter colours are for heaven.
@@ricecristpy I mean that would have been a good concept if Viziepop didn't say she died in 2014 making her originally human
i like how when "redesigning" them, she basically just puts two in different outfits and changes some of their colors.
Not every redesign has to be drastic lol
“I hardly see any squares and circles.”
vox has left the chat
Also where r Alastors horns?
I think you mean Antlers
That’s not Not ALASTOR, that’s a swamp monster with unrealistic triangle shoulder pads.And dead skin that looks like he’s a rotting corpse. OG ALSASTOR IS BEST ALASTOR, YOU SHALL NOT TOUCH LA ALASTOR WITHOUT MAJOR CONSEQUENCES!!OR BACKLASH FRIM PUBLIC!
Nifftys eye lefts the chat
Ripped off his head apparently, probably what's making his shoulders so unnecessarily big.
Meppity: too many triangles
Redesign Alastor: *enters the chat*
Aaron O’Neill PPPFFFFFF
He was like.... the most triangular shaped character in the whole friggin video.
Vegan Alastor
So true
Demons are slim because they don't eat food only drink I believe? Because demons don't need to survive with food or drink for that matter
I feel like the character design flaws don't come from Vivzie being a bad designer or something like that but the fact that the Hazbin cast is made up entirely from her very old OCs. Of course she redesigned them for the project but they still kept the 12 yr old emo feel. If you look at Helluva Boss (the Hazbin spin off show) where the character concepts are much more recent it's apparent those are much more distinct and have better shapes (yes even the furry wolf girl has a comprehensible design). There are still a bit too many details and patterns but that's more like the fault of the two shows being set in the same universe.
then explain why all her work has looked the exact same for YEARS.
@@krystle8090 I literally just explained in my comment that she's either too afraid or too emotionally attached to her old OCs and designs to drastically change them and she's been exclusively drawing these OCs for years. Her obsession with too many patterns and details is also a design flaw but probably it's her personal taste that won't change anytime soon. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
krystle her style did change
And her art got better in general
Please keep your aggression to your self
I was thinking that maybe they were old honestly since I've always had the same thing with my characters. Although I'm lucky most of them didn't have ridiculous designs and all I had to worry about was the actually story line and stuff outside of their looks. Although my stories are still a bit emo, I can at least be grateful there's one heterochromatic albino emo boy for me to worry about instead of 20.
Drili Lali you have a very good point and I agree
"redesigning"
...Made the character models infinitely worse
The reason why each character has clothing that doesn't look too well match to the proper timeline is because, just like their demon forms, are reflections of themselves. Also Vivienne Medrano's whole stick is flimsy and cartoonish in nature. She does this to put the characters in poses that would otherwise look unnatural. It might be your personal opinion that the character designs look busy but really the level of detail is not that bad. But your redesigns don't seem any better then the originals. Plus, vaggie's eye cross? Really? Her X is no different from anime eye brows going over hair.
When she shows the silhouettes of hazbin hotel though, you can easily tell them apart?
Yes l don't need 20 seconds,plus when she says that all those other silhouettes are different,she shows a bunch of different silhouettes from a bunch of different shows, ofcourse they are different
Yep
And also the color argument with the color tiles, she just Laid them out with reckless abandon then when she goes to the other character color tiles she goes through the effort to stack them all up like with homer even getting the beard. Then she does the exact same thing with south park and Scooby-doo
Also the shifting Silhouettes is a very annoying detail
Why'd u phrase that as a question?
Maybe it's my opinion, I don't see an issue with Viziepop's designs? You ask; 'what are the designs there to achieve?' I say: character silhouette. It's more about 'distinction' than any having to be 'round shapes', as circular shapes tend to give a 'cute kid-friendly' art. But they are beings in Hell, their skinny frames are leaning to a villainous angle, than cute and fluffy. My favorite is Alastor, his overall design is meant to be a cross between a gentleman + radio. The creator does favor the long triangle, stick-like cartoon anatomy but that could be a style choice than 'bad designing'.
Preach it ^
THANK YOU omg-
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I do love the designs and they're so iconic to me I'd be really sad if they got changed in later episodes :c
While it is important to create a distinct silhouette, the problem lies where you look at a character and you could remove 12 different elements of a design and they are still the same character. There is too much happening which leads to inconsistencies and visual noise. Vaggie is a good example of this. Her x eye is never consistent, in some scenes its visible through the hair in others it's not. But ok it's memorable fine. Her outfit is needlessly complicated though. Mismatched ... Boots? Thigh highs? Idk what they are. One is striped one is plain, both have lace. Arm socks, X's on her boobs, waist belt? Choker. What does it add? Some of these details are ok, but all together it's too much. The only thing it tells me about this character is she doesn't know how to dress herself lol. It doesn't change her silhouette. And her having a big red bow doesn't really fit the rest of her outfit or vibe
It’s just her art style there’s no need to fix her characters
you cant "fix" someone elses art ever. thats like the very first lesson in any art school...
I honestly find redesigning someone else’s characters really offensive to the original artist and honestly think people should stop doing this just my thoughts ( I’m an artist too so I know what I’m talking about)
Yeah
I don't think redesigning them is offensive in anyway. Its just someone imagining how they'd personally want the characters to look. What is offensive is making a video saying your new designs are objectively better than the originals. Then again criticism is always needed. Its not always good or helpful in anyway and sometimes is purely subjective but it should still be there nonetheless.
@@Gorp0117 I mean yeah, it's just saying that it's *fixed* is the problem
@@choppers9909 yeah, implying there's a problem is insulting in my opinion
@@Gorp0117 I agree as a person who loves their ocs I would love to see people draw my ocs in different ways but I would be so sad and hurt if someone told me that my own designs were bad or anything like that and so true criticism is needed tho not all criticism is good ^^
This is just my opinion, but I really didn’t like the redesigns. When she said the characters were so stretched and stylized, I was confused, because isn’t that the point? The show is trying to bring back the feel of old Disney cartoons while keeping a more modern and adult vibe. And there is nothing wrong with stylizing characters, I actually like them better. With Vaggie, I think the x’s over her chest are symbolic for sexual assault or something else, and taking them away basically bus taking away a possibly essential part of her character and story, since a lot of the designs in the show are very well planned and thought out, and every little detail means something. Plus, the colors in the redesign were too dull and faded for the intended loud and obnoxious theme of the show.
The point Meppity is making is that ALL of the characters are like that so they all end up looking the same, especially since they all have very same-y color palettes
Madison C yeah, maybe, but I still liked the originals better
the design feels like disney and invader zim whilst being for adults
If im correct vaggie died in 2014, and was killed after being raped due to a hate crime for being a lesbian.. So the x's (on both her chest and eye) is crucial to her character story
@@madisonc1588 if anyone can look me dead in the eye and genuinely tell me, Alastor, Angel, Charlie, and Vaggie even come close to looking the same, then dear God they are blinder then a bat
The main thing about Vaggie's X that actually carries significance is that it is potentially her death mark, like how there's a tiny X on Alastor's forehead when he gets angry in the pilot. Presumably, all characters have this somewhere. It shows where or how they died. Like, a bullet to the head would be Alastor's death, it's a small X and a bullet would be most logical. For Vaggie, it could be a stab wound or infection or something along the lines of the eye leading to death. It makes sense to me why she has it and I see people hating it all the time and it baffles me.
Okay the x seems kinda going under the hair and then just going over it makes no sense:/
I always thought if it as a stab mark because she is able to summon sharp weapons and it’s looks pretty big maybe enough to be a knife or maybe a blade idk
Eclipsingg _ that doesn’t justify that it appears on top of the hair and then down of the hair all the time, it should be more consistent and it shouldn’t look like it’s floating all the time.
@@w0rmbra1ns98 Funny scenario, it confuses me though because people think it takes a lot for a dog to kill someone but it doesnt take a pack of dogs to kill a person. The dog couldve had rabies and in 1833 they have the knowledge we do now about it and the only way back then to save someone from the slow and miserable death cause by rabies was a bullet to the head.
The X on Alastor's head isn't his death mark. It was stated by Vivzie he was mauled to death by dogs. 'X' in voodoo means 'the wish has come true'. Basically, when you make a Voodoo deal, an X should show up on your body to show the deal has been done.
_"I don't like these designs, therefore they're broken and need to be fixed."_
Sounds pretty offensive.. Like, Vivzie worked on the designs for the characters for years, and i think, Vivzie’s characters turned out just perfect. There’s no need to fix them.
Just because you don't like them doesn't mean they need to be fixed actually being a lot like her
@@thatonekidonyoutube6697 Did you... did you miss the quotation marks?
@some_ paper_gal when did she ever say that?
@@thatonekidonyoutube6697 isn't that exactly what she just did in the video?
You literary just took out most tiny detail and life out of the characters and called them fixed
The fact that the “iconic designs” of the characters you showed before weren’t even *in the same show* mind you
WHAT ARE YOU THINKING????????
they are not in the same show because the characters of the SAME SHOW were flawed!!!
its called comparing...
True dat, and all of the characters where really recognisable
They were just showing more of Vivzie’s designs for context I dunno what y’all are on about
Meppity: i swear every single character in this show is red
Tom trench: am I a joke to you.
Husk am I a joke to you
@@mr.youtube4723 husk has red lol
Lilith: am I a joke to you
Mimzy:am I a joke to you
Luna: 👁👄👁
This video will always be funny
frrrrr
People need to stop fixing others art style, it’s not fixing, it’s just saying something bad and just changing the whole concept.
How I feel abt the redesigns:
Charlie: alright alright. Still the same.
Vaggie: looks pretty cute.
Angel Dust: alright, not my favorite.
Alastor: Look how she massacred my boy.
@SaltStop "Our" Boy 👀👌
@@tiredcaet OUR baby*
Green really wasn't a good idea lmao
THE DEER BOI
Angel Dust looks good. But everyone else looks clunky if that makes sense.
Alastor is already perfect deer boi 💕
I’m not even that big of a fan of the show, but as an artist, seeing someone take another person’s art style and characters while claiming to “fix” them is downright disrespectful. There are some outlines and suggested rules for art, but the beauty of it is that it is up to the creators discretion.
I Agree With You
Agreed
Agree
Right
Not wrong
It's not a redesign, it's just a change of body type, that's all.
*looks at Angel
Look at how they massacred my boy
And poor Al grew himself some mold 😭
@@SmartBoyHarry lol, why did she even make him green-
@@alastor_radio no clue bud ;-; she did you dirtyyyyy
Made you a moldy table-
@@SmartBoyHarry :(
@@alastor_radio :'
Personally, my favorite design is Alastor's. Given his backstory, the teeth actually make since because he was a cannibal, and he dresses mostly from his time frame, and the deer like features are from the fact he was shot from a hunter. This is one of my favorite shows so far, but my God does it have so many problems. As an artist, I understand the whole character design thing, especially the colors.
well....Alastor just became my favourite very quickly
I also love his design, but his hair seems odd for his character, at least for me.
Didn't the creator say on a stream that she had no idea where this fan theory came from??? Where is this cannon???
@Sakura’s Vibe òwó Viv has said several times he's a cannibalistic serial killer from Louisiana
@@lizzycoy1745 It used to be cannon, so Viv must've changed it in recent years or something. But still
I feel like most of the reason and mistakes you named where unnecessary and not all true. For example, with the silhouettes. When you showed the silhouettes that were supposed to be "recognizable" they were not all from the same show, so they are bound to look different. Each show has it's own style, like Hazbin Hotel's is pointy, jagged, elongated, etc. If you look at the Simpsons' silhouettes they look similar as well. Along with A TON of other shows. We are all entitled to our own opinion, yes, but I'm just trying to get my point across o,0
Yeah like omg different shows have different char designs
and then to prove her point- she showed a bunch of different character silhouettes. That were all from different shows-
You didn’t understand what they were saying, they were saying that the silhouettes weren’t recognizable, art style isn’t gonna make that okay
@@AsexTwin so when she put all of vivzies characters side by side you couldn't tell who was who? I mean I thought it was pretty obvious so...
@@AsexTwin horns, 4 arms, incredibly large hair, a stick, a "normal person". I'd say they're diverse enough
3:46 bruh that's because there are different artists
Perfectly balanced:
30K Likes/Dislikes
As all things should be
Nah the dislikes are at 31K now
Yep
Sorry
There are 32k dislikes as of Thursday, Jan 20 2021
dislikes are now 33k
"-someone thicker to the cast"
*What about Mimzy?*
i know she isn't really in the pilot ( unless she is and i didn't see her ) but she's still a character in Hazbin Hotel and she definitely a thicker character, there is no way you can say she's thin.
( The following is the part that i edited in because i had more i wanted to say )
I disliked the redesigns, mainly because of Angel's design. I do not want to start any fights so please respect my opinion, however, i do allow you to place criticism about my opinion and reasoning.
*Vaggie*
Vaggie's Xs do say something about her character. They are meant to represent the way she died or a hint at what she went through. The Xs are an important part of the design. That's all i have to say about her redesign.
*Alastor*
The green does not suit him at all, it makes him look like a rotting strawberry instead of a "Strawberry Pimp". Also, the green makes him look very unpleasant against the colorscheme of Hell.
*Angel Dust*
His spots make him look unique in a way, removing his spots, in my opinion, make him look boring. The way his collar was flipped up and not folded down didn't look right to me either. The way the jacket was made it look like he had an open trenchcoat and no shirt underneath it, therefore exposing his chest fluff.
Since Charlie wasn't changed i won't say anything about her. I am sorry if this offended you in any way, i simply wanted to state my opinion. I do see the redesigns being an AU, though! Plus, your art style is really good!
The dots on Angel are also not just part of his design, but his whole family's design as the 6 dots under the eyes are eyes themselves. Angel's family are a bunch of spider demons and have 8 eyes.
@@Wolfen5207 Indeed, so Angel and ( probably ) his whole family just 6 very useful eyes.
@Claire Juedeman Ah, i like trying to spare people's feelings.
You're opinion is completely Valid and I totally agree with you! and Vaggie's X's are very important to her design, and making her "Chubby" just makes her seem so wrong. Green is such a horrible colour for Alastor, or for hell. Angel needs his dots and his suit. But Charlies hair not swooping over the side of her head annoys the heel out of me, other wise she's good.
Honestly facts! That's a much nicer things to say than other people on here! I just don't agree with 'fixing' art since art is about not what it is but what you perceive it to be!
Okok no offense the "fixed" alastor looks like someone took the original alastor ate him and threw him up 😂
staise m.c
He is a carrot
It's croocked
No. Offense
When she made his shoulders huge i almost cried- i screamed in my head like- WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO MY POOR EVIL BABY :(
Lmfao he looks wack no cap
Your basically just making a Walmart version of the hh characters 😂
she needs to criticize her own art and not others 💀
@@LeviAckerman-hk8im exactly
@@LeviAckerman-hk8im periodt.
Wish I could qualify for a Walmart version
I'm still just dollor store version
@@witchhunter6755 trueeeee
I just want to say that you made charile's face expresion look really out of place. The eyebrows make her look mean because they are so strong
The thing about the "everyone is red", "everyone is so slim/skinny", "so many unnecessary details" is...
Its stylization, the characters are in hell, there is red light pretty much everywhere. Also the red and black, especially on alastor add to the creepy, sinister vibe.
So of all the characters, Alastor is the one that these colors fit the most.
I agree with the silhuette thing, yes, but i dont think altering the bodyshape too much works here, since the main cast of characters are the least anthropromorphic in the show compared to the background and side characters. Except Husker maybe.
Anyways, what makes these characters still recognizable is the fact that they are heavily stylized, and the colortheme fits the hellish atmosphere.
PREACH
I agree like everyone hates how everything is red and black but hell is a dark place yah know its HELL theres not gonna be like blue and green and like happy colors it's a dark place
YES
I don't think she did her research on the show 🙄😒
i love the fact that when she was talking about the colors, hazbin's color pallets were just a line of all the colors while in other characters it had the placement of the colors and the correct sizes (at like 4:43)
THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING
SO PATHETIC
I WAS LOOKING FOR A COMMENT LIKE THIS, I NOTICED THAT RIGHT AWAY. I was so mad because that’s entirely unfair and not a good comparison
@@sophieh.2818 yep!! it's like when people compare things to prove a point, but the comparisons are fundamentally inaccurate.
It's essentially lying to get your agenda across.
Exactly!! I thought that was quite an unfair argument :0
3:34 bruh all those are different art styles ffs
this girl literally did not do her research before writing this video and everything is entirely unorganized 💀
I don't understand why you took the red away from Alastor. It's literally his whole entire aesthetic
Lol they just yoinked his entire brand
She actually Killed half of what makes alastor memorable
@@_stoops yh.
And his red made him look more, bloody, considering he was a serial killer
@Sleep No charlie’s main color is also red bruh
“Can’t recognize their Silhouettes” I wonder who’s the guy with deer antlers?
Yea and the person with the snake tail 🤔
And the one with multiple arms look *exactly* the same as the rest!🤔
Hmm do u know who the guy with FKN 20 inch TV as his head is? I think it might be Nipty 🤔
@@kosamila4666 lol
@Nightlight._. Gacha Speaking of Vaggie, I think her hair is pretty recognizable.
But if we take away those special features it doesn't show us what kind of character they are. The cards on the wings can resemble games, gambling while the specific character you mentioned actually gambles. While the dots on Angel Dusts hair show his personality as being playful. Taking away those features can make them look boring and dull if you think about it.
I feel like reading these comments are like walking into a lion den, and I’m not even the one being criticized.
same here man
You give some really valid critisism about the show and the designs, but overall I still prefer the original designs I think, even though I'm not a huuuge fan of Vivzies designs as well but I really respect her unique art style, even though she overuses a lot of elements etc. I really liked that you gave Vaggie more of a curvy body and generally the body changes. I think I'm most dissapointed with Alastors new colors. For such a fun and extreme character the colors just look very dull in my opinion. The reds in the original at least were really popping, to a point were it's a little overbearing, but that also kinda suits his character.
Muas totally agree
You get it! Thank you!
Alastor’s excessive reds could’ve had more tone variation if anything, making lighter pinks and some blues and blacks more prominent, but that’s kinda the only thing that I would change about him. A broader shoulder maybe but other than that I think he’s good.
i actually kinda liked meppity's decision to make alastor's palette more lowkey considering the era he comes from and his background as radio host and serial killer (so he doesn't want to stand out in terms of appearance and in his job he relies on voice rather than on visuals)
this redesign also gives me like "still waters run deep" vibes which is refreshing from seemingly everybody having a very bombastic and loud character in the show
I feel like Alastor's design could 100% work if all he extra details were cut, and if he had some tweaks on his face
either alastor looks like an actual demon or a carrot, you chose carrot.
friendo What about strawberry pimp
@@meltingmarshmallows6431 he's a moldy strawberry now lol
XD carrot
12:44 You botched all of them, especially her, Viv's designs are very unique and eye catching these make you want to look away
“Can’t tell people just by their shadows” proceeds to show extremely different scared shadows that can easily be identified
Angel Dust: “This body is flawless!”
Meppity: *ackchually*
Actually*?
@@copperpepper5353 they wrote it like that bc of her accent my dood
Kloncey I didn’t hear an accent, thats why
@@copperpepper5353 oh well she has a British accent
So true
I don't think you should have removed Angels freckles, since he's a spider those freckles represent the 6 extra eyes he's missing
really I didn't know that 😯☺
Those are actually His missing eyes
I-
@@t60-flying95 yes, I just said that
Actually the freckles are eyes, he just doesn't open them. It's been confirmed by Vivz
THIS HELL
EVERYONE WILL MOSTLY WEAR RED PALETES HERE
(except for some)
IT'S OBVIOUS
Specifically on the wrath wring, where the sky is red, fashion is still a thing, I presume. Just imagine it: "blood red. The perfect match for one hell of a sky"
Angel-doesn't have spider eyes any more
Charlie-tall
Vaggie-well..fat
Alastor-GREEN BOI
U can't really "fix" a character's design. There's a reason they're design in a certain way. For example: u made Angel's clothing and colour scheme more subtle, but he's supposed to be eye catching, bright and loud for the reason of him being a stripper/sex worker. And u made him look neater, he's a character that's supposed to look slutty and messy because that represents him as whole. He's supposed to be a wreck, a mess. If he weren't, then he wouldn't need to go to the hotel for help of redeeming himself. So ur just basically taking away his purpose as a character. There's more to character's than looking "neat", "tidy" or "too much" for ur liking. They're designed in a way that tells a characteristic or personality trait. Those "details" that u felt were unnecessary WERE necessary because it's only special to that character and that character only. In conclusion, u or anyone else can't "fix" a character's design for the simple reason of that they were meant to be designed that way, and if u don't like it then don't look at it.
#truth
Well said
It’s obvious she hasn’t watched the pilot, or at least not payed attention enough. She got many things revealed in the pilot wrong. For example, she didn’t know how to pronounce Vaggie, despite her name being said multiple times. She’s just being ignorant
Spoken like a champ
I agree, this is well said
NGTL the 'redesigns ' look really stiff, like a barbie doll form the early 2000s. Also, you clearly didn't do any more research then just watch the pilot. If you are going to 'fix ' someone else designs then you should at least put effort in and do research, because some of the 'useless' details are there for the character
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Yep, in one video, this artist said that other artists who "fix" others characters, they barely do any research on them.
I agree with you but some people just don't think theres anything more to find so they don't look. And 'some' people are wayyy too aggresive about the basic rules of good character design so they think anything that does not connect to someyhing is bad, not saying thts everybody but alot of people think that
“Fixing “ people’s art is like I don’t care about it I’ll draw it my way.
If your eyes can't see what's going on in the pilot and stuff, get your eyes checked. The character have sharp teeth because they're demons. Duh.
the new designs where way off measurements
angel is supposed to be 8 ft, charlie 6.5 ft, vaggie 5-6 ft, and alastor 7 ft
here, charlie is way taller than angel and alastor if she stood straight up
not to mention that alastor is taller than angel in this video
There’s a reason why husk is covered in card symbols and why angels suit is so exposed in his cleavage tho, I understand that you have the right not to like the designs but some things are like that for a reason
Thank you, That is what I was saying. Were dealing designs around death and punishment. Connects the design on each. Especially when it, in this case, has meaning and connection to character past, or in this case death. Most time with my own because I am character self-critique on my own works. That represents growth in various ways or fall of said character.
Being covered in card symbols makes his design too visually loud and on the nose IMO. We get he's a gambler from the narrative, the card symbols are a bit too much
ya, also I'm pretty sure vaggie is missing her eye that has the x, you know with all the stuff in her speed paints, with the eyes and stuff.
@@secretlymagical there are various versions of hell based on various mythologies.
They could have use Reds, Browns, Yellows, Greens, Purple, Dark Blues, and Pink and various tones of it to make it more appealing and make everything pop
finally someone who understands !!!
I’m sorry but we really like the first design better than this one because she really worked hard on it and you don’t need to criticize her that much
Yeah I like the designs you made, but saying you “fixed” them is rude. And by saying that you “fixed” them you’re implying they’re bad which is disrespectful at the least. Design and appeal are subjective, while you may not like the designs (which is fine you can have an opinion) clearly the vast majority of fans love the original designs. Viv has had made MANY changes to all the characters designs (except Al’s because he’s important to her) based on her own and fan’s opinion. So what I’m trying to say is, while re designing characters to your own preferences is fine and dandy, saying you fixed them especially when most people love the original characters is rude to the creator and animators but even a bit to the fans. Again, I love your take on the characters and you did an AMAZING job, I just wanted to say what my opinion was. I hope that I wasn’t rude because that’s not at all what I wanted to do. Have an amazing day and keep drawing!!
Vivzie actually added so many seperate shapes in there design, I saw a crescents, tear drop shapes, triangles, squares, circles, and most of the stuff that was critiqued was vivzie's own personal art style and animation and design that they spent years to reach and feel comfortable with.
Charlie:
Charlie from what I know is supposed to be a marionette puppet hence the pale skin and pepperoni cheeks. As a character she is preppy but doubts herself to an extent, so that cancels out anything sexy or flashy which contrasts from her parents in which further solidifies her doubts of being nothing like her parents. She’s the princess of Hell so you can imagine she is high classed and strictly fed (also validating her skinny body) but she’s more leaned towards a businesswoman thereby validating the outfit she has. Her hair is more a stylistic choice which I assume has 2 major reasons to be like that. One, her design is fairly simple and needs something a little odd and funky so she’s it completely boring. Two, she’s a string puppet which in the past usually had braided hair so the loops could be a unique way to replicate that. The new design barely has any changes so that’s it.
Vaggie:
Vaggie is a MOTH demon so that’s a big reason to why her hair is flow-y and her bow is huge. Vaggie is predicted to be a prostitute in her former human life based on her hate of men and distain for Angel’s profession. Running with this theory, it makes sense for Vaggie to be skinny due to her former job. For the X on her eye I personally think it’s charming however story wise, she most probably has the X from how she died, and is a key center point for her character. The new design I would say isn’t much different from the original in details however it just looks like you made her chubbier which I don’t understand because there are chubby characters such as Mimizie and the fish scientist so there is a reason for their designs being so skinny.
Alastor:
Alastor is a radio host from the 1930s who is theorized to be a cannibal and serial killer just based on promos and live-streams. He makes sense to be skinny because of 3 reasons. He’s heavily deer like which when imagined is not morbidly obese like a Hippo, he’s a presumed serial killer so it’s a bit hard to kill so many people when you’re not agile, and in the 1930s the economy was flimsy and he probs wasn’t the richest person. As for his design, yes the bow tie and suit is overused and yes there is a LOT of red and the original design could use work however, I am not a fan of the redesigned Alastor. The green is too inviting and Alastor’s fear factor went from a 7 to a 2. The classic businessman look for Alastor is not suitable in my opinion and all the mysterious and eerie wonder is stripped away (The monocle, the coat tail, the antlers) Finally the bow tie I felt was a must with Alastor it just gave him a charm.
Angel Dust:
Angel dust is an escort fair and simple. He’s supposed to be attractive or something and has no preference to who his client is as long as they have money. The red dots under his eye look like freckles while doubling as spider eyes. For the redesign, the bow can be removed in my opinion with no problem however, the odd handkerchief is even worse. Firstly, I empathize that Angel is an prostitute so he wants clients to request his services. So why would he cover his assets? The things making him money? Also the body suit also doesn’t fit with him. It’ll become difficult when seducing clients.
Other than that thank you for reading this. That was my take on the redesigns. Overall, most the redesigns are fresh however they make no sense for how they are illogical.
I love your points on Charlie! It never crossed me that she looks like a little puppet. Or how soft and squishy she looks compared to her parents.
Nor did I think about how the green and business man get-up made Alastor look more approachable? Gotta love my shady monacle dear.
Is the deer design related to the Wendigo since Wendigo skulls are deer like and are also supposed to be humans turned cannibals.
Somura I completely agree the character redesign isn’t as whimsical or interesting. And features that were included in the original were necessary for different reasons depending on the character , their backstories, there deaths and their occupation.
I really thinks the same
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This is yet another case of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
Yes
If ain't broke, don't fiddle with it- beast boy
@@_derpity_7043 oh god the song played in my head
Yes ! The characters already look great so what are you even fixing them for.
The "fixed" art looks kinda to simple for me
“fixing”
-terns al sh!t green
-makes angel’s hands look like baby hands
-removes all the important parts on Vaggie
You are a good artist...
But I disagree with the concept of "fixing art" it just seems offensive to the original artist. They designed their character how THEY wanted to. There is no way to fix that. An arist can redraw and renew a character themselves, even I have done that to some of my characters, but another person cannot "fix the art" because it is not their art.
I agree
Yeah
True
I agree
Yes, this can be rude, I don't think she was trying to though. This video is not on why her art is bad, just ways she can tell how to make a more recognizable character.
What she mostly did is take away the little details that would make animation harder (Alastor is really bad I will say that) and make the body shape different so they can be recognize (which while I'm drawing it hard for me to do)
This is less of a know it all and telling why her art was bad and more like a art teacher, giving advice they don't need to follow.
Unpopular opinion I know.
You didn’t “fix” the designs, you erased the symbolism behind them
There was barely any symbolism to begin with lol. Like half of the fandom doesnt know alastor has antlers.
@@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 Yeah i guess, but for example, the X's on Vaggie's eyes and boobs represent how she died: She was raped then stabbed in the left eye. Removing that kind of nullifies the meaning of the X's.
@@Leonardo-G what about the rest?
@@Leonardo-G
Going by ur logic that means she got stabbed in her boobs too
@@ddmacc She got stabbed in eye according to the hazbin website.Edited:She was stabbed and abused by a man for no reason according to the wiki on their official website
Girl the fact that you can say that about someone’s art like stop judging
It is very clear that most of the comments defending HH's character designs and Vivzie's style, don't know much about animation, and what makes a good character design _for_ animation.
As much as I want to love Hazbin, as it is so cool and inspiring to see an indie animation project get this much love and recognition, I have always really disliked the designs of the characters. It is true that many of the characters have decent silhouettes - like, you can see how the character is posing, what body part is what etc - but what makes the silhouettes bad is, as you mentioned, that they all look the same. Yes, you can see which silhouette is who's, but it's really bad when every single character has the same exact body-type. Everyone is tall, skinny and lanky. I think the _only_ MC designs I've seen from the team so far, that differs a bit from this, is Osmodius from HB. And I think _one_ other character from Hazbin that wasn't in the pilot.
Everyone is skinny with long limbs and tuxedos. Everyone looks like a twink. That. Is. Bad. Character: Design. Where are all the fat characters? The stumpy ones? The muscular, broad ones? Where are the characters with big upper bodies, or big butts? Where are the big noses, or the round cheeks, the bad posture etc?
And don't even get me started on the unnecessary details on every character! I would lose my mind if I had to animate any character from the studio. No wonder it takes them ages to come out with new episodes, these designs were not made for animation. No professional animation studio (or concept artist) would make their animators try and animate characters with this much detail. When it comes to animation, less is more. At least when it comes to 2D animation, it's a bit of another story with 3D animation.
If you ever look at the very first concepts of a 2D character, you often see that the final version that is used, will be simple. Simple shapes, simple colors, simple design. Because it is a lot easier to animate (and have it look good). Animating a very detailed character may be impressive, but that does not automatically make it good. In fact it is gonna be so much _harder_ to make it look good, because it's much easier to mess up and have the design jump all over the place - which we see in HH and HB.
I have been following Vivzie's art for a very, very long time. Way before Hazbin and Helluva. And the fact that her art style has barely changed over the years, is not a good thing. The designs of the characters, the stories and the history/personality of most of the characters, are reminiscent of something an edgy teenager would make. Exactly as you pointed out. I know this is gonna sound harsh, but I actually can't fathom that Hazbin was picked up by another studio. I don't think that would've ever happened in the industry, if it wasn't for the fact that the pilot was so successful, and the studio saw all the money they could make on young fans. It would actually make a lot more sense as a webcomic, than a fully fledged animated show.
Another "problem" we see, is that there is a lot of queer characters, which normally would be great (I am queer myself), but what kind of message does it send to viewers when all these characters are in Hell? Like actual, literal HELL. I highly doubt that Vivzie indented to say "all the gays are in Hell", but that is the message it's sending.
wow big dumb right here
How is having the same art style over the years bad? Hello? Is having an iconic art style and not changing it bad? I understand that Vivzies designs are flawed, but the creator of this video was also very biased.
The "unnecessary" spots on Angeldusts head, at least under his eyes, represent eyes, because he's based on a spider, his whole familiy is, and spiders have eight eyes, so they belong there and tell us something about the character which you claimed they didn't. You can't redesign a character without knowing them and their background or at least what they're based on. And the redesigns weren't that good at all, Alastor looked muddy and didn't fit into the colour scheme of the rest of the cast, but I liked his broader shoulders and the fluff on his arms. If you would have researched his character a bit more, you would've known that many of his designchoices incorporate elements of deers and possibly wendigos, you could've worked with that more. Angel Dusts pink gloves were clashing with everyone elses outfit and were way to bright, sure it works for him alone, but when he would be on screen like this with other characters it would be way too distracting and bright. Also his outfit wouldn't fit either considering he was part of the italian Mafia and was born inro it, when he was alive. I like the concept of Vaggie being chubby tho, but I think her cause of death was some kind of plague or something, whatever it was, it wouldn't fit in the time period for her to be chubby.
Vaggie died in 2014.
Sorin XI oof didn't know that, I reposted this comment, it was from 7 months ago and I wasn't aware of that, thank you for correcting me! ^^
The only reason you knew they were eyes is because someone probably told you, I think the multiple arms show his spideryness enough
Madison C I mean, not much of a reason not to put it in there, having the 8 limbs does make it a bit more of a spider but the 8 eyes also help people understand it to be more of a spider.
@@madisonc1588 (this comment is copypasted because I'm getting tired of repeating myself) she said the x's on vaggie said nothing about her character but they're actually related to her death / the way she died. She took many important details from the characters tbh and made them all look so calm. They're supposed to be messed up. They literally live in hell. Nobody cares if they look „clean”. By taking angels seductive look she somehow took his whole purpose. She erased everything special about the OC's and claimed to „fix” them as if they were broken before. She could've atleast used the word „redesign” or something like that but she chose not to so more people would click on the video? What the actual heck.
Also first part of your commment if very unreasonable. It doesn't matter if somebody told them or not. What matters is that the dots have a purpose and shouldn't be erased at all. The creator of the video should've done some research if they want to claim some of the feautures are „not neccesary” because they actually say a lot about the characters.
Sorry if this sounds rude. I'm just upset about her „fixing” amazing OC's and taking all the important things from them; making them not special anymore. And on top of that clickbaiting the audience for more views. I knew it was clickbait but had to click anyway to talk some sense into her and hope she'll change in the future. I mean she's pretty talented and I believe she could do amazing artwork but not like that. She's wasting her talent.
This is like the Lion King 2019. It’s trying to fix something that wasn’t even broken.
About the lion king thing i think they should have kept the cartoony design a little like that one guy on UA-cam who redesigned it
@@tre8382 i know that video
@@Xoro2203 and i hate and won't watch it
Pretty sure they weren't trying to fix it, just remake it in live action. So that situation doesn't apply here.
Facts
This is so enraging. Viv works for so long on that pilot and those character designs only to have someone come “fix” them. Over all, redesigning or “fixing” someone elses characters is just so inconsiderate and rude. The fact you thought it was a good idea to make this video astounds me, and the fact you kept it up considering the like to dislike ratio and how many people you’ve pissed off is just amazing. It’s almost as though you enjoy the attention you get from all this. This isn’t funny, this isn’t cute. Viv worked so hard on this. She didn’t need someone coming in and changing the characters designs when they were perfectly fine just the way they are. You can not like Hazbin Hotel, but it doesn’t give you the excuse to make a video like this. I’m 16 and I’m nagging an *adult* about how immature they are acting.
i like your re-redesigns a lot better than these but so many people in this comments section are/were being so unnecessarily rude (but then again pretty much all of them sound like literal children so. you know. take that as you will) and just completely disregarding so much of what you said in the video. a lot of your design feedback seems like it could potentially be super helpful (just in general), so it’s a shame that so many people have chosen to simply ignore or maliciously misinterpret it because they don’t like that you’re criticizing vivienne’s work or how you’re doing it.
Fans of Charlie see her : ok we will let it go
Fans of Vaggie: hmm tone down the thinkness and brinng the X's back
fans of Alastor: where are the pitchforks?!
Dunne
Me when I see Alistors redesign: look how they massicered my boy!
I like them all
*get the pitchforks, make vaggie less **_thicc_** and get the X back, and I’ll let Charlie go*
I agree whole heartedly, I’m totes down with a thicc, but dude skin it down a bit, vaggie but the ✖️’s are symbolism. And ew, I like green but ew, They totally destroyed alastor.
Eijiro Kirishima ikr
It’s HELL
"I hardly see any squares-"
Vox: Am I a joke to you?
Ha! I burst out laughing🤣🤣🤣
Wait who’s vox?
@@vergil8257 One of the overlords from hazbin
@@isaac1168 wait there are overlords in hazbin?
@@vergil8257 yeah, and Alastor is one of them
3:35 obviously the silhouettes are going to look very diverse since they’re all from different shows with different animation styles
if you were to compare the silhouettes of the simpsons characters, they would still look quite different from one another, like in hazbin hotel, but not to the extent of characters from different shows
each and every one of them still have a shape from features, such as the hair, that make discernible from each other, although i do agree with the fact they could do some more variety in body types
also, the shows she compared to hazbin are incredibly popular, obviously they’re more recognisable