i redesigned every single miraculous holder from miraculous ladybug 🐞 🐱🦊
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- Опубліковано 8 бер 2024
- oh me oh my here we are AGAIN talking about miraculous ladybug AGAIN. After breaking down every single miraculous ladybug hero design known to man (at least during the summer of 2023) I decided to go ahead and design my own versions of all the miraculous holders! So here’s all of them in one video with my thoughts and process included.
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speaking of the fox miraculous, it would be extra cool if the whole miraculous gained a sort of white-gray-blue color palette in winter, because red foxes have that ability to change their coats to hide in the snow.
That'd be so cute! And imagine if they gained some fur elements alongside the white. Winter coat!
Like a lighter form of rena furtive
same with other miraculous, changing things around seasonally, emulating life stages in the designs, yadda yadda
I can agree with that but In season 4 of miraculous Rena furtive/ Rena ruge has that design
And hopefully in season 6 thay get their own power ups
AHH YESS
I can see the pig miraculous being a Bard/Ninja in a DND campaign based on their outfit.
I actually love that
YESSSSS
thats perfect!
Oh my god I thought the same exact thing-
"I don't care about Journey to the West reference."
Ope, well then I guess I did a good job lol
@@abigaillynnarts WAS THAT A LMK REFRENCE?! (im jk)
@@glitch_girl-_-3177I LOVE LMK AND JTTW LOL
@@imreallybatman NOW WE AWAIT SEASON 5'S RELEASEE
@@imreallybatmanBased
I like the theatrical-looking superhero designs. It's something more superhero shows should adopt. After all the difference between a hero and a superhero is presentation.
perfect Megamind reference
That’s basically my main characters motto (their favorite movie is Megamind and they are a theatre kid if you couldn’t tell)
thats was the smoothest megamind reference I have ever seen
For the horse miraculous redesign, I kinda wish the art had a cowboy hat, and the miraculous was a brooch that would be on the jacket, like a sheriff badge, that's my idea at least
That’s even more yeehaw than what I made lollll
Why not take inspiration from the different ways of horse riding? From other cultures? Like Mongolia or Central Asia?
Or a belt !! 😍
Yeah but these are Chinese style zodiacs and other animals. So maybe not.
@@FrenchUkulele A belt would be cute! Or maybe just the buckle on the belt..meaning you can actually swap out the belt part and wear the buckle on ANY belt to fit your taste!!
Giving her luck powers while it makes more sense Is kind of like giving her a limitless creation because at that point her luck would always just safe her which would also ruin the tension of the show. The writers have once again ring themselves into a corner where it would be hard to even fix some of these problems
Luck doesn’t necessarily mean unbelievable contrivance and convenience over and over again, but I completely agree that the writers would absolutely use it in a convenience and contrivance way, since they have no idea how to write a properly balanced power set. Also, there is no tension in the show because of how it’s written. If the powers were actually given real strengths and weaknesses, maybe then there would be some actual tension.
@@abigaillynnarts which they tried to do is just unfortunate that it really sucks and how they still keep trying to convince us that label and cat noir are the most powerful when it's definitely rabbit and rooster miraculous. Also I just realized Adrian's bad luck is being in the show
@@Keith_Norman literally, Adrien suffers every day he’s slapped into another episode. I’m hoping to create a very very long video essay breaking down all of the problems with miraculous from a writing perspective this summer once school is out on my second channel, so while this video is only for design, the actual story is gonna get slaughtered in my writing video whenever I can make that video lolll
@@abigaillynnartsBalanced Powerset? I hardly know her! Seriously though I already can make an essay on how both sides could have won in the first week at most, to not even having to fight at all
@@abigaillynnarts Real, like if the power is luck it can possibly be both extremes like either your really luck or comically unlucky when using the power or the luck is more subtle
It's funny that you made the bunny miraculous have the multiplying ability. Since, y'know.. bunnies are very good at multiplying lmao
That’s the point lmaoooooooooo
Nooroo is Supposed to be a Butterfly. Hawkmoth is just called that because they thought it sounds cook for the english dub. His original name is "Papillion" which is just the french word for butterfly. I also think the Butterfly villain could work with the Armor look, if you made it more power ranger-y. Like the Solaris knight, but purple and with a butterfly shaped visor
Cook?
@@ked49 cool
I’d call the horse holder, “Stallion” and “Mare”. I would probably add a waist accessory that can remind you of a horse’s tail. It would probably help to utilize Horse Riding equipment and clothing.
A great choice for this would be to make the weapon those whips with many leather tassel things, idk what they're called but they sort of look like a horse tail!
@@testerwulf3357 a horse whip or riding crop? It would actually be a great weapon or method of distraction.
@@testerwulf3357a cat o nine tails? I think that’s what it’s called if I remember right
Idea: redesign the akumas, so you can use other color palettes and have other design inspirations.
I think you meant kwamis?
@@abigaillynnarts Ok, I think they are the same xD but one is in Spanish? Something like that? But yes, kwamis
@@gabyeguizabal7164actually, akumas are the butterflies that transform people into hawkmoths servants in Spanish, not Kwamis, in Spanish kwamis are still called like that, kwamis lol
@@hannahdiaz3019 My bad. Thaks! And yes, I mean Kwamis
I've read a fanfic where the goats ability was climb anything. Including air. The literal concept of the miraculous is "Passion" and Passion allows you to climb up limitless heights. As for ladybugs weapon. Maybe she doesn't have one? It could enable chat noir to be more of a defender and the ladybug as a planner. Gotta make do with the resources you have, or are given. The wings help with mobility so as to not leave you a sitting duck in the process.
I feel like the designs would also change depending on the person and their personality for example if someone is very girly they might have a skirt above leggings or something more elegant or if someone is shy more of a cape or a mask which covers more like a full face mask over a half face mask etc.
And maybe people can even add personal details or throughout their story and develop their outfit as they find that they need other things.
Yes, Yes, YES! All the yes to this
I mean that is what it is in the proper show.
And the colour palette, some prefer more muted, or seasonal
Edna would get a heart attack.
Capes are not only unpractical but also dangerous.
Don't give capes to superheroes they can get hurt when something is flowing behind they will not give attention to this in action which can cause serious damage
This was a really fun watch!! But I will note that Peacocks are also always male. As far as I know the coloring of peacocks is specific to them, and Peahens have a lot more of a paler, toned-down color palette. I think it would be fun if a female user of the peacock miraculous(though if it can be used by both genders it should just be called the peafowl miraculous, ngl) had a light brown/white color palette and was a lot more elegant and subtle than the male counterpart :)
It's clear from the color of the Miraculous that it's meant to be the Indian/common/blue peafowl. The male is primarily metallic blue, while the female is primarily brown. However, there's also the green/Indonesian peafowl, where the male and female look very similar - an iridescent green. It would also be really cool if someone decided they wanted their costume to look more like a leucistic peafowl (white that is, i.e. Lord Shen). There's also a Congo/African peafowl, but they look nothing like their Asian relatives.
@@ggrarl Ohh, that's very interesting! And I'm not surprised that miraculous decided to be inaccurate with it :"D
MY EXACT THOUGHT AAAAAA.
cus she made a hen/chicken for the rooster but no peahen😭😭😭
@@lillymosher8083 Yeah!! It's understandable though, I think most people don't think about how peacocks are always male ^^' The only reason I know it so well is because a character in a book I read was very assertive about the fact, LOL
it'd be an interesting lore tidbit if the bee miraculous was only passed from woman to woman and the rooster was passed from man to man (either like it was a cultural/traditional thing or just amazing coincidence) so they could kinda be foils to one another
As someone who has only ever absorbed Miraculous Ladybug content through videos talking about how bad it is, this was the first time I've seen the majority of this miraculous costumes from the show.
You have done the world a great service, because wtf are most of those.
I think using theater masks really helps your designs.
Every day of my life I wish they gave those teens actual superhero designs instead of skin-tight spandex outfits. These were all fantastic, I LOVE the fox-tail cape and the mice were both so, so cute!
i think it would be very cute if the cat design had little paws on the bottom of their shoes
NGL i liked the direction with Marinette as the cat miraculous in the show. The braid acted as the tail, the skin-tight suit resembled existing cat hero/heroine.
The peacock miraculous isn’t a ripoff of the butterfly. One allows you to give specially defined powers to others and the other allows you to create life from practically nothing.
This! Extremely different.
disagree they are the same
It feels like a cross between butterfly and ladybug
..The time stamps..
0:00 intro
1:38 peacock miraculous
5:08 ladybug miraculous
6:49 fox miraculous
8:36 goat miraculous
11:18 snake miraculous
13:02 butterfly miraculous
18:00 horse miraculous
20:29 turtle miraculous
22:15 mouse miraculous
24:01 rabbit miraculous
25:52 cat miraculous
27:28 bee miraculous
30:07 ox miraculous
31:52 monkey miraculous
33:50 tiger miraculous
35:37 pig miraculous
38:24 dog miraculous
41:13 dragon miraculous
43:25 rooster miraculous
45:25 final results!!
Thank you times 100000 dude!
Ur an angel
Okay I gotta say it:
Beagles*are* hunting dogs. They hunt hares and rabbits. They’re scent hounds so using the tracking power makes sense.
right? that bothered me, beagles are fantastic hunting dogs, i think the idea was dog that does the hunting instead of helping with hunting but that definitely could have been made more clear.
In my opinion I actually really like how "distracting" the male design for the butterfly miraculous is because a lot of moths and butterflies have these "eyespots" on their lower wings as a deterrent from birds that want to eat them. The spots mimic the eyes of predators so when the birds see them they think it's a predator rather than a butterfly or moth.
i am 100% basing this idea off of a horse girl I knew in school, but you could make the miraculous a big belt buckle (im pretty sure thats a rodeo thing)
love it when my sleep paralysis demon who has an obsession with miraculous ladybug explains their redesign process to me
😭
Ngl I’m obsessed with miraculous 😅 my channel got 612 miraculous videos
Could definitely see a Persona crossover AU with these designs.
_"-I am thou, thou arth I-"_
YES OMG THATS SO GOOD
100%. These look so good.
BROOO
For the monkey king, the inspiration is so ingrained in the design that the headband and the staff itself is a reference. You can’t really avoid monkey king when those two are combined with a monkey
The first thought upon ‘i don’t really think they give off a superhero vibe’ (something to that extent) is that the pig miraculous would be more for helping the people. So like the other heroes would be fighting the antagonist whilst the pig miraculous would make sure that everyone is safe, no one is hurt and everyone is happy with the folk (?) theme
“I don’t care about the Journey to the West references”
Proceeds to keep the five pointed crown
Just because you don't want to copy something to a tea, doesn't mean the design that did doesn't have elements you like.
just wanted to add in that you could have used bumblebees for the bee design as they can be male and female
For the horse miraculous, I say go armored war horse instead of cowboy. If you look close in the og design, you can see that they have some type of plating on the suit, I think if you make them into armor then it should work.
Also if you feel like it isn’t work, try putting all the designs together to see if they complement one another. You can also keep some elements from the cowboy designs to make it work too
I really like the yeehaw vibe, but a dressage inspired design could also work to evoke a horse
8:23 “i think it captures that mysterious vibe pretty well*
*draws them grooving*
For the horse miraculous, I think it would've been cool to go for a 18th century French cavalry design. You could give them a long braid or ponytail to mimic a horse tail, or give them a cuirassier helmet that already has the tail motif.
A masquerade style mask would also make more sense, given they were very popular in 1700s France.
Also, I really like the pig's design, but I would probably add a little yellow or switch out the gray to differentiate from the mouse's pallete, especially with how bright and multicolored Romani dance outfits are.
these redesigns are honestly really cool. I guess if you wanted to go less yeehaw for the horse, maybe could go for more of a warhorse direction? I'd personally take reference from spartan armor especially the helmets were I to go for a less yeehaw design myself. maybe a bit of a trojan horse theme could be fun to
The goats seem like they’d make a killer comic relief duo
I'm very confused as to how the pig is a "rip off of the ladybug"??? It traps you in a vision of your deepest desires, how is that at all similar to the lucky charm?
If anything, the goat and ladybug are basically the same thing, except the goat can choose the object and the ladybugs one is just luck
Well sometimes in Western shows that have amulets I'm pretty sure so you could use that for the horse miraculous
That could totally work!
@@abigaillynnarts kind of surprised that no one's even mentioned that but I think the reason is because most people have it with the wolf miraculous. It's an OC miraculous that's used in fanfiction and then each and everyone it's always an amulet but the powers are always different. You also never mentioned if you were going to keep the powers of the horse miraculous
@@Keith_Norman I would just get rid of the “horse” entirely and substitute it for something else to make things more consistent. They’ve done some switching around of the miraculous animals in the zodiac before, thinking of the rat to mouse, so if max is going to be “Pegasus” and marinette is going to be “pegabug” then I’d make the horse swap to just be a literal Pegasus instead, then the teleportation power would make more sense to me. Right now the entire comes off as extremely inconsistent and poorly thought out.
@@abigaillynnarts I mean it definitely works considering that there's a dragon miraculous and the Pegasus allows him to teleport or float but a Barbie gets the horseshoe but the other part of me doesn't really like it as a weapon and also these things are supposed to be communication devices too
Honestly we don't really need to redesign every character because some are actually good like cat noir and Rena rouge but Marinette desperately needs to change and I would rather not have Zoe in the show whatsoever
no I don’t NEED to redesign them but for most of them it was very fun to!
@@abigaillynnarts no I understand completely
Omg hi keith!😊
In season 6 ladybug will have a suit re design
Shadybugs design slayed tho
Trans bee holders! That’s way worker bee can still have the male and female transformations :3
maybe gender-fluid would work a bit better idk why but that's just what i think
@@ViviVinyl that also works. Both can be used, even nonbinary people!
That’s a cool idea!
@@losserr1990you have a problem?
That’s what I was thinking too
Your the only, and I mean ONLY person I’ve watched redesign all of them without a single one I dislike, like their amazing! Even the one’s YOU didn’t like I thought were freaking gorgeous!!!!!
Aw thank you 🥺
I love your take on the butterflys, both as heroes and villains!
Honestly all the redesigns were pretty good!
I think the male villain butterfly design was good!! imo its just the pose that didnt do it justice. Also, for pegasus/ the horse miraculous, i think it woulda been really cool to add some kinda techno-vibe to it, because of the whole teleporting thing. The clash of western-meets-tech would be super sick tbh
The tiger re-designs are reminding me of the Cats musical (1998) in the most positive way I can say. Rum Tug Tugger energy
the white skin made them look like they came from just dance lol
The costume changes by your personality and how you want to act and that is shown in the show because the cat kwame told Adrian
Yeah, hence how Adrien was able to appear as a different person that episode in season 5
There's actually a BUNCH of species of ladybugs, I recently found out. The fifteen-spotted lady beetle, in particular, looks like almost an albino version of the typical seven-spot red ladybug.
These designs are very good, and your art style is very pretty but I am curious about the whole "there are no purple moths/pink tigers" argument you brought up? Like, it's a cartoon with mutation butterflies and casual stalking and subpar magical girl transformations. I really don't think the colors are that big of a deal? Like, I understand not liking a certain color pallet, but saying it's "not realistic" in a children's cartoon seems kinda silly? Idk, maybe it's just me, but besides that little nitpick this video was really well done. You're a wonderful character designer.
I agree.
“Subpar magical girl transformations” is my new favorite quote
I use to like the show too. However, what they did to Cloe, the dumb thing with Hawkmoth, the ending of the resent season and cutting out the Bull,Dog,Rooster and Goat Meraculous I finally gave up on it. HOWEVER, the Layla twist was cool.
If the glasses predate the horse- then shouldn't western themes? If you tackled this one again maybe try going for East Asian cavalry and how their armor is designed for better horse riding!
Very fun video though I can tell a lot of time and effort went into this!!!
I think you might enjoy looking up how Erythrism presents in animals, specifically tigers. These color morphs are called golden tigers, strawberry tigers, and pink tigers. Not even close to the magenta color of the show but beautiful pink tigers.
Maybe the Horse Miraculous could have been based on the tradition of horseback archery? Or maybe a dressage/ballet fusion or something with equestrian polo
Your designs sincerely don't look like a fix but rather as a DTIYS. And it doesn't seem that you thoroughly thought like the concept artist behind the work, i can be wrong though. My sketches are not better, that's why I can't have the pretense to say i can fix them
If someone came out with a series that included these outfits with a cast based of the energy each outfit gave, I'd be 100% invested
Could the horse miraculous be a belt? Might suit the western vibe more...
The horse outfit could've also been based on horse-riding gear, or even an old riding outfit complete with a cloak.
The thing that makes the monkey miraculous obviously a reference to Sun Wukong is the circlet that holds the miraculous. Unless you change the circlet, it will always look like a Sun Wukong reference. I also don't particularly like how you lumped an important figure from Chinese mythology in with the rabbit from Alice in Wonderland. One is a modern character, the other is an ancient myth entrenched in cultural iconography. There's a lot more deeply layered symbolism in the monkey miraculous than the rabbit one.
Edit: just added a few remarks
These are so cool! Love how we get to see two designs for each miraculous and that they still have variety. Miraculous has such a interesting concept so your creativity for the suits are very cool.
That’s a lot of characters to redisign, props to you
I like the idea of the zodiac Kwamis having a second ability that only the most experienced users can use like one being creation and another being Destruction instead of the ladybug and cat, also the time related ability should see into a persons past and if the person has a Kwami any memories related to the kwami can’t be seen
For the Horse miraculous it could be a belt or necklace that turns into a lasso! Goes with the whole cowpoke aesthetic
I think my favorite is bull. That hammer is sick and their outfits are really cool too.. they do look pretty intimidating. Like they don’t need to say much and let their weapon do all the talking
I actually really liked the second version of the butterfly (both male and female) one cause of the relations of it being a show targeted mainly towards kids the darker is very common for villains to either have darker colour palettes or sharper features but that's simply my opinion and its you're choose and whether or not you like it but i love every design they are really unique and thought through you did an awesome job 🙌🙌
I like to think that for the ladybug miraculous, the yoyo stays, and Ladybug would just ... hide her wings? like how a ladybug's wings are usually hidden in the carapace (shell). she could probably just use her yoyo for most situations, then when the villain goes really high up and is like haha I have the high ground, she can just open her wings and fly. kinda like a flying roach. freaks ppl out kinda. an element of surprise?
I have a pet rabbit and it’s great to hear someone talk about how strong they are…. They can also be terrifying!!! XDDD I love you design!!! :333
I'm actually working on making my own miracle box. 19 kwamis, each based on a mythical creature. I finished their concepts and I'm working on drawing them. The Kwami, their name, the dormant and active forms of the Miraculous, the tool/weapon, and the Miraculous holder themselves, of which I create a whole character because apparently my little OC-creating mind just doesn't stop
That sounds cool! I'd love to see them when you're done, if that's okay. X3
0:00 intro
1:38 peacock 🦚
5:07 ladybug 🐞
6:49 fox 🦊
8:36 goat 🐐
11:19 snake 🐍
13:01 butterfly 🦋
16:01 butterfly(more villain like) 🦋
18:00 horse 🐎
20:29 turtle 🐢
22:14 mouse 🐁
24:01 rabbit 🐇
25:52 cat chat car 🐈
27:28 bee 🐝
30:07 Ox/Bull 🐂
31:51 Monkey 🐒
33:49 tiger 🐅
35:38 pig 🐖
38:24 dog 🐕
41:12 dragon 🐉
43:26 Rooster 🐓
“Eventually I had to go yeehaw with it” that’s my life motto atp
To me, I'd change up the horse's color pallet entirely and focus on its ability... that being portals. I'd make the pallet blue, gold and white. As for the horse, it's supposed to be a pegasus, so maybe make it look a little more elegant. Maybe a little more Roman/Greek themed.
I love how you made these outfits look more natural and realistic❤
And with more culture and tradition.
These are great! I don't really know what else to say.
I was caught of guard when I saw you pull up Ranboo as a reference for the monkey one 😂
As much as I love these redesigns, to me, some of them like the goat lost its superhero vibes tbh and looks more like a color coordinated fit😭
holy crap, props to you for doing so many redesigns and making so much art. genuinely impressive
also- think the monkey redesigns are my favorite. they're just perfect
No 'cause them using demon slayer and mha references made me feel like a proud mom 😭😭
Speaking for the horse design, you could go for a battle horse or war horse design; specifically the ones used in ancient battles. 😁
I never watched Miraculous Ladybug but sometimes I wonder how much harder the show could have gone if we removed the whole love square chicanery and actually focus more on character development and plot progression
I think these were all very well done and the concepts were very creative! My personal favorites were the butterfly hero/villain, fox, peacock, snake, cat, bee, monkey, male tiger, and dragon.
I love the snake one so much, especially the hood and hat part O: And I wish to forget Adrien's snake transformation--
Have you seen Juuni Taisen? They have some interesting ideas for zodiac designs, such as boar's tusks are her earrings or monkey's ears are imitated with headphones, can be used for inspiration too
I haven’t seen it but that sounds very cool!
@@abigaillynnarts there are simple designs like rabbit wearing a sexy bunny waiter outfit but some are cool x3 also they have a female chicken, is why I remembered about this show at all while watching your video xD though I'm not fond of her outfit, besides the hair piece 🤔
11:39 Embo is always excellent inspiration. I’m so glad you used his hat as reference for the shield.
if you were a clothes designer, i would by from you in a heartbeat. the jacket for the horse miraculous is top tier, i love it so much and tbh it's not a want, it's a NEED
The horse one is giving Westly from the Princess Bride meets Vaqueros which I am living for rn! :3
Honestly even though you aren't super happy with the guy villain design for the butterfly/moth, it looks way better than whatever Hawkmoth has going on lmao
YOUR REDESING OF THE TIGER IS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!!! My favourite one of the entire video.
Its impressive how you made something so good looking out of a color pallette you don't like!
I love that you put sounds on the background of each transformation to show how you feel about them. I was vibin
i also redesigned ladybug and chat noir! it was very fun. i decided to change ladybug's powers to flying and being venomous because it made the most sense to me 💗
I find the fact that you used Natsu from Fairy Tail as a pose for the rabbit miraculous EXTREMELY funny for no reason
Watching this video really made me think a lot about my own process for art and posing. It gave me some awesome inspiration for one of my superhero ocs so thank you! Love your work!!
This was amazing! Love seeing people absolutely rip into this show and do there own take:))
Thank you, I as a kid on the heavy side have always preferred the goat miraculous so seeing someone who looks like me in not just weight but size as well was amazing! Thank you so much!
I love how unique your versions of the outfits look, they're very beautiful❤
If u ever have time, would it be possible to redesign the fusion outfits aswell?
Never ever in my life because that’s way too many outfits lolllll
Edit: I’d also remove them from the narrative entirely
@@abigaillynnarts would u still make a design for the ones from the specials or is that too much?
Ty for replyin btw
@@Akemiyuh nah I’m not touching the specials lmao sparrow’s design is the best design that’s ever been made and it’s not even a concept from miraculous it was for a different project that was never made which is why it stands out as such a strong design to me, because it doesn’t fall into any of the usual tropes and flaws of the rest of the designs. I also really hate the specials so nothing will ever make me tough those unless it’s for a breakdown of the terrible writing lol
@@abigaillynnartsmight I ask why you’d remove the fusion outfits?
@@DerpyCookieMc I find the entire concept of the fusions too convenient for the plot from a writing standpoint, that’s why.
33:53 The way I *tensed*
I physically braced myself, I can not to into words what I just experienced
I think my favorites are the mice and the horses.
The male bull design is my absolute favorite! the color and the clothes' details really speak to me.
I'd like to hear your redesign for the powers because honestly some of them need a redesign and in my opinion I feel like they kinda feel off with the powers almost as if they ran out of ideas as special miraculous like the goats power the power is really similar to lucky charm but just powered down
Yeah, she mentioned crazy changes but don't go into it for a few that you would expect to go into like the butterfly.
My favorite was the short bulky goat, really nails the concept in my perspective! Amazing works!! ✨ (oh and the rabbit! they look extremely cool!!)
Blue ladybugs also exist! They’re called steel blue ladybirds. They don’t have spots, but they have a very cool metallic blue/green/purple shell that I think could also make for some very cool hero designs!
The designs look absolutely awesome, like, wow-
Also saw a lot of Scarlet Lady comic design references and that made me very happy it's a very underrated retelling of the MLB story :D
OH I MISS U! Loved your stuff on TikTok but I left it a while ago! Glad you’re here
you could go full Saint seiya with the horse miraculous and make it like the pegasus armor
you're so talented, all of the designs are SO GOOD!!!!
with the dog for some reason i imagine a lucario thing going on with the bones and bone rush, using a bone as a staff seems pretty cool
I love your pig design and i feel like a better power for it than in the show would be super charisma
i think my favorite of these designs is definitely the tiger. obviously not a fan of the bright pink color palette, but i think you did a great job with what you had, and it just looks really cool and intimidating.