Is “The Last Jedi” Bad? (Fanboy Court)

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  • Fanboys from opposing sides of the Star Wars: The Last Jedi debate battle it out in court!
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    Is Star Wars: The Last Jedi Bad? (Fanboy Court)
    Let's reconsider what actually happened to Rey, Kylo Ren, Luke Skywalker, Snoke, Finn, Rose, Poe, and Leia in Star Wars Episode 8... IN COURT!
    Did your Star Wars fan theory ideas hold up, or did The Last Jedi leave you in pieces like a Star Destroyer after the Holdo Maneuver??
    STARRING:
    Schro - Plaintiff
    Noah Grossman (Smosh) - Defendant
    Davis - Judge Melvin
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    Ryan - Court Reporter
    Brian - Bad Star Wars Fan
    Written by Michael Jonathan Smith, Michael Davis, & Michael Schroeder
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    Director of Photography - Michael Schmidt
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    Sound - Michael Rich
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    Edited by - Chris Yule
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  • @kyle8436
    @kyle8436 4 роки тому +2959

    "WHY DOES EVERYONE HAVE TO BE RELATED"
    *Star Wars the Rise of Skywalker releases*

    • @kilililian1439
      @kilililian1439 4 роки тому +76

      I'm still shocked. I mean how could've anyone seen this surprising twist coming

    • @zoom-1634
      @zoom-1634 4 роки тому +14

      Hehe

    • @izzybrizzie9133
      @izzybrizzie9133 4 роки тому +77

      ''It is so much more interesting when Rey turns out to be the daughter of complete nobodies!''
      I don't know about THAT one chieeeef...

    • @BrownSillyCat
      @BrownSillyCat 4 роки тому +4

      You should change that profile pic

    • @walkingcubkid
      @walkingcubkid 4 роки тому +6

      I didn’t really except that yet, cause it was the eighth movie, and I knew very well that they were gonna retcon last Jedi, and that they’d have it that Kylo ren lied to Rey. And I knew that they were gonna add more to the story then just say “oh okay, let’s leave it like that”, it’s like how in return of the Jedi when Luke confronted Ben about lying about his father, and ben basically said “what I said was true, from a certain point of view”. In short, hope someone didn’t pick up the phone, cause I already fucking called it.

  • @charlesevanshughes3638
    @charlesevanshughes3638 5 років тому +3277

    "Star Wars hasn't been good since 1983"
    The Clone Wars: Am I a joke to you?

  • @lukelandis3090
    @lukelandis3090 4 роки тому +520

    The only thing this skit is missing is a Prequel Trilogy fan asking: “Why can’t we all just enjoy the Mandalorian?”

    • @danielsierra6421
      @danielsierra6421 3 роки тому +25

      This was before it was made

    • @lukelandis3090
      @lukelandis3090 3 роки тому +22

      @Daniel Sierra I know, but Prequel fans did exist, so it would have been nice to see them being the sane ones stuck in the middle of all the idiocy. I just brought up Mando because it seems to have been something “Disney” Star Wars that almost everybody liked.

    • @matiarribere4977
      @matiarribere4977 3 роки тому +15

      @@lukelandis3090 Some prequel fans are crazy for the prequels. Go on prequelmemes on reddit and you will see. I still agree that we should enjoy Mandalorian.

    • @spawncampe
      @spawncampe 3 роки тому +11

      @@lukelandis3090 he wasn't a prequel fan. He was the originals fan, he even said "star wars hasn't been good since 1983"

    • @SuperNoah9999
      @SuperNoah9999 3 роки тому +1

      Well, they did for a while, until the whole Gina Carano situation. Tbh, I've slowly grown to hate this fanbase.

  • @Aidan-zc8wx
    @Aidan-zc8wx 4 роки тому +437

    Melvin: "No Film is perfect"
    Me: "But Empire Strikes Back was damn near close!"

    • @Sea-zu4bj
      @Sea-zu4bj 4 роки тому +19

      So it would seem each triology had its perks. Original had great story, good vs evil and stuff. Prequels had world building. And uh sequels nullified any victory in the original triology?

    • @lukar7306
      @lukar7306 4 роки тому +11

      @@Sea-zu4bj sequels had porgs, BB8 and Babu Frik - definitely all better than Rey.

    • @Deathmare235
      @Deathmare235 3 роки тому +2

      Me: laughs in Revenge of The Sith

    • @lukar7306
      @lukar7306 3 роки тому +4

      @@Deathmare235 lol thats a funny joke

    • @Aidan-zc8wx
      @Aidan-zc8wx 3 роки тому +2

      @Robert Ortiz-Wilson I agree

  • @jaythosonmp439
    @jaythosonmp439 4 роки тому +802

    "no spaceships in harry potter"
    give j.k rowling time

    • @archivist_13
      @archivist_13 4 роки тому +32

      Don't give her ideas.

    • @aidengoosemorey3499
      @aidengoosemorey3499 4 роки тому +6

      SPACE MAGIC!!!

    • @louie2639
      @louie2639 3 роки тому +10

      *harry Potter taking place in the 90s so spaceships already exist*
      *also in one of the books a man claims he flew to the moon on his broom*

    • @redemptiongaming5986
      @redemptiongaming5986 3 роки тому +1

      Louie u mean the. 90s

    • @MemeMan99
      @MemeMan99 3 роки тому +1

      Louie 90s, not 80s

  • @maxpowell728
    @maxpowell728 4 роки тому +707

    “Why does everyone have to be related”
    Urm let’s not talk about it

    • @nicknyethesaxguy894
      @nicknyethesaxguy894 4 роки тому +24

      Max Powell I actually really liked the fact that Rey was her own person but noooooo JJ was like [SPOILERS] she’s a mother fackin palpatine! And what’s that? She adopts the skywalker name? Sure! Let’s just completely throw away the uniqueness of her character.

    • @csab8642
      @csab8642 4 роки тому +7

      @@nicknyethesaxguy894 well you have a point about the revelation taking way the idea that you dont have to be related to someone important to be important. However I'll also admit I kind of liked that twist because it gives us a chance to be reminded that even if we come from a dark place in life, we can choose to be better. Also I can't help but find it kind of funny to hear everyone saying, "someone had sex with Sidous?!?!?"
      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @commandercat10
      @commandercat10 4 роки тому +2

      @@HughDoesStuff yeah instead of taking the last name of Luke and ruining his legacy. Stupid Rey literally being prefect in every way and no weakness that is just bad chacter writeing.

    • @MelloCheese
      @MelloCheese 4 роки тому +1

      Max Powell phasma is Rex his daughter now good?

    • @gerstein03
      @gerstein03 4 роки тому +1

      commder cat 10 the sad thing is the Force Awakens gave them things to work with when they started. They laid the groundwork for the new characters but they didn't go anywhere with any of them except Kylo Ren. Finn had an interesting backstory of being a stormtrooper who defected to save Poe, Poe had an cool personality that made him interesting, Rey was a nobody scavenger who was abandoned and didn't know who she was, and Kylo Ren was the son of two great heroes who turns into a villain. They had good stuff to work with and they didn't do anything with any of it which is a shame given the potential it all had. Hell there are fanfictions that write the characters better than these movies did

  • @Legoboy55able
    @Legoboy55able 3 роки тому +104

    Fans when TLJ came out: Rey is a nobody? They killed the hype! Those bastards!
    Fans after Rey was revealed to be a Palpatine: So I took that personally...

    • @remrad4315
      @remrad4315 10 місяців тому +2

      Didn't really bother me. It was more of how they had no plan leading up to it and just didn't do a very good job. The prequels weren't amazing either, but one thing for sure is that there was a plan for better or worse.

    • @mishynaofficial
      @mishynaofficial 7 місяців тому +3

      "I Am Your Father's Brother's Nephew's Cousin's Former Roommate."
      Rise of Skywalker is a dogshit, but it proved yet again that Spaceballs is a masterpiece.

    • @remrad4315
      @remrad4315 7 місяців тому +1

      @@mishynaofficial agreed

    • @toxicdemon1315
      @toxicdemon1315 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@mishynaofficial... so what does that make us?

  • @JingleJangle256
    @JingleJangle256 4 роки тому +324

    The entirety of this trial is now null and void. ROS has made many of the arguments irrelevant, so I demand a retrial that takes into account the sequels as a whole rather than one film.

    • @SuperNoah9999
      @SuperNoah9999 3 роки тому +11

      Wow, I just realized all of the final films in each of the trilogy's have the same initials.
      Edit: Well, the first trilogy one has a J instead of an S at the end of it, but hey, two out of three are still correct.

    • @loonysanity9638
      @loonysanity9638 3 роки тому +3

      True. And also, it should include the in-canon spin-offs

    • @lukeluke286
      @lukeluke286 3 роки тому +6

      And they're all collectively very bad

    • @dylankrepps2169
      @dylankrepps2169 2 роки тому +1

      I second that motion and vote and move for a non based jury. shills are not allowed

    • @bigwave1713
      @bigwave1713 2 роки тому +2

      A retrial will not change the verdict, no matter what it changes the end point the judge makes will still be the same, you may not like it but people are allowed too. The same in reverse people are allowed to dislike it

  • @momo-nc3li
    @momo-nc3li 4 роки тому +1835

    "That is why you don't see machine guns in game of thrones"
    Yeah but you do see Starbucks cups

    • @user-mh9dx7nz2r
      @user-mh9dx7nz2r 4 роки тому +27

      I will not allow a 69. *Clicks Like button.*

    • @anthonybousquet3590
      @anthonybousquet3590 4 роки тому +24

      Touché *has never seen Game of Thrones*

    • @Gemnist98
      @Gemnist98 4 роки тому +8

      And Ed Sheeran

    • @cmccorquodale2003
      @cmccorquodale2003 4 роки тому

      Burrrnn

    • @zerotohero1483
      @zerotohero1483 4 роки тому +8

      But how else is she supposed to stay awake during the celebration she needs that pumpkin spice latte

  • @doofusboy7054
    @doofusboy7054 4 роки тому +417

    "Cooler than a Winter's night on Hoth." I like that, has a nice ring to it.

    • @SuperAries1985
      @SuperAries1985 4 роки тому +2

      DoofusBoy lol dude you got hearted by warp zone and only got 8 likes

    • @doofusboy7054
      @doofusboy7054 4 роки тому +1

      heck yeh 😂

  • @SiddharthShenoy
    @SiddharthShenoy 3 роки тому +588

    If there's one good thing the sequels did, it's that they made people appreciate the prequels more.

  • @michaelcubed
    @michaelcubed 4 роки тому +78

    5:23 except, that is, Palpatine, who profited from both sides of the Clone Wars...

    • @whatsupthesky4718
      @whatsupthesky4718 3 роки тому +8

      In the clone wars the techno union , intergalactic banking clan , and the trade federation profited from both sides of the clone wars haha

    • @user-qs9iu9vw4x
      @user-qs9iu9vw4x 2 роки тому

      Same with the Trade Federation.

  • @galiad_exe7148
    @galiad_exe7148 4 роки тому +2216

    "Rey is so much cooler just as being a nobody!"
    Hehe yah um....'bout that.

    • @harrystephenson7508
      @harrystephenson7508 4 роки тому +38

      Galiad_exe better than a palpatine

    • @wesleyfan55
      @wesleyfan55 4 роки тому +33

      *Laughts In Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker*

    • @gudusername1509
      @gudusername1509 4 роки тому +55

      That was the one cool thing about Rey, it really showed you don’t need be the son of the chosen one, the galactic senate,or the owner of the fastest hunk of junk in the galaxy, it could be anyone, you just need the spirit and attitude of someone who is willing to do the right thing and fight the first order.But no, she had to be related to Palpatine, why? Because everyone must be related, in TESB the “I am your father” Scene left people shocked, but when we found out Rey was Palpatine’s grand daughter, it just seemed more like a bummer.

    • @Hawkcam1996
      @Hawkcam1996 4 роки тому +32

      It showed you don’t need to be the son of the chosen one? You realize that Anakin’s mother was a nobody and he didn’t even have a father right? Anakin did the ‘nobody background’ long before Rey was even a thought.

    • @Aidan-zc8wx
      @Aidan-zc8wx 4 роки тому +4

      @@gudusername1509 I mean it was cool but also useless

  • @stefanosolari6989
    @stefanosolari6989 4 роки тому +2386

    "A true fan can appreciate and celebrate the good while still acknowledging the bad"
    we should live by that quote

    • @jordiw913
      @jordiw913 4 роки тому +57

      Yeah and last Jedi is complete garbage plot wise and imagery except for the ship scene that looked cool af

    • @jarrodedson5441
      @jarrodedson5441 4 роки тому +6

      @@jordiw913 question for you

    • @jarrodedson5441
      @jarrodedson5441 4 роки тому +16

      @@jordiw913 I hate that film

    • @kevinescobar370
      @kevinescobar370 4 роки тому +4

      Gavin Beaver I love you

    • @GabesEdtiz
      @GabesEdtiz 4 роки тому +15

      Jordi Nieves screw you I though it was a good movie not great but good

  • @MayDay1418
    @MayDay1418 2 роки тому +272

    The Rise of Skywalker did something truly amazing; the movie united both opposing views together in hatred and focused that hatred back toward the movie. Not many writers have successfully failed that perfectly.

    • @Garanseho
      @Garanseho Рік тому +15

      Task failed successfully

    • @analauragonzalezaguilar1196
      @analauragonzalezaguilar1196 Рік тому +13

      I think the reason why the movie is so bad is for the people realize that the preaquels where awesome this whole time.

    • @fictionverse7292
      @fictionverse7292 Рік тому

      @@analauragonzalezaguilar1196 okay, you are kinda toxic man

    • @LeMayJoseph
      @LeMayJoseph Рік тому +7

      It was terrible because it did everything it could to completely invalidate the previous movie.

    • @thewitchking852
      @thewitchking852 Рік тому +4

      @@LeMayJoseph it was terrible bc the last jedi put it in an absolutely terrible position while also alienating a large portion of the fanbase. And Luke really is the problem. Say what you want about "new directions" but portraying Luke as the Last Jedi did doom the sequels. He's a beloved character with a story about trusting friends, believing in redemption, and perseverance. That was all thrown out to give new characters who hadn't earned it the spotlight. There is always an element of "giving what the audience wants" and turning Luke into a shitty person was not it. I liked TFA, I was excited to see what happened. Then TLJ happened, and I could care less what happens from now in the story.

  • @wolfpackproductions7270
    @wolfpackproductions7270 4 роки тому +38

    Star Wars hasn’t been good since 1983
    Revenge of the Sith, rogue one, solo, and clone wars,*starts to cry in the corner*

  • @eternal5930
    @eternal5930 5 років тому +614

    Kylo: Let the past die.
    EA Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order: Hold my blue milk.

  • @anakinfan57
    @anakinfan57 5 років тому +3201

    Fans: Last Jedi is horrible!
    Also Fans: Last Jedi is Perfect
    Only a Sith deals in absolutes

    • @suraa4372
      @suraa4372 5 років тому +59

      I've only ever encountered Sith lords in this matter

    • @batshineman174
      @batshineman174 5 років тому +65

      The special effects, most of the action, and the acting was pretty good but literally everything else sucked.

    • @anakinfan57
      @anakinfan57 5 років тому +38

      batshineman I personally loved it, but you’re entitled to your own opinion. Thanks for sharing

    • @suraa4372
      @suraa4372 5 років тому +17

      batshineman the action was good??! Have you seen the throne room scene?

    • @suraa4372
      @suraa4372 5 років тому +23

      AnakinFan57 wow a civilized fan. Is it possible?

  • @jaredgarcia8638
    @jaredgarcia8638 3 роки тому +35

    This video pretty much sums up fandoms in general. If we could resolve issues like this much toxicity, fandoms wouldn't be a problem

  • @xd_mystyyyyy
    @xd_mystyyyyy 3 роки тому +79

    6:57 No. Anakin wasn’t “Tortured by the Dark Side” until his convo with Palpatine in RoTS which after that he goes to kill the younglings and such. And even then, it wasn’t fully Palpatine’s fault for turning him. The Jedi were just bad mentors to him, especially Obi-Wan. And “It perfectly echoes the Original Trilogy” Bitch please, it’s an exact copy.

    • @aronnemcsik
      @aronnemcsik Рік тому +2

      and a bad copy at that one...

    • @mackenziehunter4593
      @mackenziehunter4593 Рік тому

      The Jedi weren't bad mentors, Anakin was a bad student. They tried to teach him, but he ignored what they tried to teach him. Had he followed Yoda's words about letting go what he feared to lose, the sequence of events that lead to him choking Padme might not have happened. Anakin was the failure, not the Jedi.
      Same with Ben Solo. Though some blame should go to Luke for not recognizing Palpatine manipulating Ben since his childhood. But Like Anakin, Ben made the choice to go to the Dark side.

    • @aronnemcsik
      @aronnemcsik Рік тому

      @@mackenziehunter4593 yes they were. The Jedi didn't know how to handle loss or given any love to Anakin. He was taken from his mother and everybody was kept distance from him. Also how he supposed to listen to Yoda as a child? He probably didn't even understand fully what's happening around him.
      Plus the Jedi were hypocrits considering the whole not forming attachments rule is only applied when it is convinient ( Revan and his wife could tell you about that)
      As for Anakin. The fault could be his. One would think after running an academy he would have the mental fortitude to deal with Ben emotions. Also him trying to kill Ben in his dream still doesn't makes any sense...

    • @dabatman5187
      @dabatman5187 Рік тому +3

      I love how you are doing the exact thing they are mocking lol

    • @bigfrankfraser1391
      @bigfrankfraser1391 Рік тому

      @@aronnemcsik technically the jedi were bad teachers, but anakin was also an arrogant asshole of a student, he was always told he was the chosen one, so it went to his head and felt his abilities were better than they were, and threw a tantrum and murdered children because people kept telling him hes not that great

  • @Smoky701
    @Smoky701 6 років тому +600

    "Star wars hasn't been good since 1983
    Me: 2003 Clone Wars cartoon and Clone Wars TV show (season 1-6)
    *airhorns

    • @MICHELIN_TAPES
      @MICHELIN_TAPES 5 років тому +5

      Oh dang tru

    • @RaidenDragonClaw
      @RaidenDragonClaw 5 років тому +14

      Preach Raul that show was epic an its coming back baby wooo

    • @masteryoda3552
      @masteryoda3552 5 років тому +2

      Ikr

    • @gnc623
      @gnc623 5 років тому +10

      And the prequels.

    • @MP-nq9ht
      @MP-nq9ht 5 років тому +6

      Also:
      -Star Wars Revenge of the Sith (or at least most of it)
      -Star Wars: The Force Awakens
      -Star Wars: Rogue One
      -Star Wars Rebels
      -Like 80-90% of Star Wars video games made before EA emptied it’s ass all over the franchise

  • @SamWizeIII
    @SamWizeIII 4 роки тому +411

    the warp zone: "we'd like to rent a court room."
    the court: what for?
    the warp zone: STAR WARS!!!!!!!!!!

    • @liberpolo5540
      @liberpolo5540 4 роки тому +5

      Sam Caplan
      I was wondering how the pulled that off.

    • @DedricSilva
      @DedricSilva 2 роки тому +5

      Court: Oh this should be fun.

  • @louie2639
    @louie2639 3 роки тому +22

    “We never see anyone profit off of both sides of the Star Wars”
    cartoons : *exist*

  • @charlieford8759
    @charlieford8759 3 роки тому +45

    Chris Johnston: Rey's so much cooler being a nobody!
    Rise of Skywalker: I'm about to end this mans WHOLE career

    • @multiverse_media2023
      @multiverse_media2023 10 місяців тому +1

      Rey was never cool!!!! Even Captain Marvel is better than her, and Anne Boonchuy, and Luz Noceda, basically every girl hero is better than Rey, who’s a NOBODY!

  • @MalcadorLoyalist
    @MalcadorLoyalist 4 роки тому +977

    I come from the future. It turns out that Rey is palpatines granddaughter

    • @JW-do2wc
      @JW-do2wc 4 роки тому +20

      Edgy guy With overcomensating Sword EEEWWWW!

    • @mystery8820
      @mystery8820 4 роки тому +65

      Rey then steals the Skywalker name.
      There are no Skywalker descendants left.

    • @adambryant3666
      @adambryant3666 3 роки тому +26

      Wait...the guy who doesn't know how to prolong life by using the force has somehow managed to come back from the dead/get laid/and have a grand daughter??? Disney never ceases to amaze...lol

    • @s.e.a2827
      @s.e.a2827 3 роки тому +12

      I come from farther into the future no one cares anymore

    • @redninja0078
      @redninja0078 3 роки тому +4

      SPOILER!!! I’ve seen the movie, but DUDE!!!

  • @nadim4172
    @nadim4172 5 років тому +688

    5:24 - we've never seen somene make profit from both sides of the war
    Surely palpatine literally orchestrating both sides of the clone wars and being the emperor from it should outweigh that claim

    • @NhuNguyen-ov5nd
      @NhuNguyen-ov5nd 5 років тому +38

      What they mean is "We've never seen someone make a profit from both sides of the war in a way that's so cartoonishly villainous it makes sense to my childlike intellect."

    • @iangreer2151
      @iangreer2151 5 років тому +35

      Palpatine was manipulating and profiting from both sides so he could push forward his own agenda. The people from Canto Bight were profiting from both sides for the money alone and not to push forward an agenda.

    • @jlord5078
      @jlord5078 5 років тому +27

      What about the pyke syndicate? Or Hondo's pirates? Or Death Watch? Just because we never see it happen on screen, doesn't mean it didn't happen at all.

    • @sappiedead1163
      @sappiedead1163 5 років тому

      Oh wait my comment has been made before

    • @jlord5078
      @jlord5078 5 років тому

      @@sappiedead1163 by who?

  • @user-ft3jq5vi2l
    @user-ft3jq5vi2l 4 роки тому +17

    5:25 the Techno Union, Trade Federation and the Banking Clan supplieing both sides of the clone wars (which were btw a giant grey conflict between two grey factions): are we a joke to you?

  • @funnydepressive32
    @funnydepressive32 3 роки тому +37

    Movies have flaws, true of the OT, PT and ST. There's something to love in every one of the movies though... I think your enjoyment of Star Wars really just depends on if you can see the positive in things or not.

  • @jesterjimjordan3817
    @jesterjimjordan3817 4 роки тому +1558

    Star Wars Fans: The Last Jedi is garbage!
    Other Star Wars Fans: The Last Jedi is perfection!
    Me: Only a Sith deals in absolutes. I will do what I must... *Ignites lightsaber*

    • @itshashimbutt
      @itshashimbutt 4 роки тому +49

      This is such an elite comment and deserves more love

    • @lightyagami2542
      @lightyagami2542 3 роки тому +24

      SuperSoldier319 YOU TURNED HER AGAINST ME

    • @vincentmontano3402
      @vincentmontano3402 3 роки тому +15

      You have done that yourself!

    • @KneelB4Bacon
      @KneelB4Bacon 3 роки тому +5

      Yeah, but the ones who think it's perfection also like to eat paste and lead paint.

    • @itwasidio8036
      @itwasidio8036 3 роки тому +15

      Me an intulectual: phineas and ferb star wars is the best

  • @tylergil7322
    @tylergil7322 5 років тому +2754

    This video is literally a perfect representation of the Star Wars community

    • @gerstein03
      @gerstein03 5 років тому +104

      Defendant-Star Wars nerds it will say everything about Star Wars is perfect
      Plaintiff-Star Wars nerds were so caught up in nostalgia and had Ken and that they can't appreciate something
      Melvin-Star Wars fans who are levelheaded and capable of seeing the good and the bad and appreciating it

    • @jasonph2522
      @jasonph2522 5 років тому +11

      Are either of them old enough to have seen New Hope in '77?
      Edgy 30 year olds telling everyone about pop culture- fuck the internet.

    • @imwrongyoureright.3890
      @imwrongyoureright.3890 5 років тому +14

      @@jasonph2522 They're just actors.

    • @River-pg1uk
      @River-pg1uk 5 років тому +8

      @@gerstein03 and all in all the best part about the last jedi was the performance by carrie fisher however the writing is inconsistent the internal logic destroyed and the choriography atrocious this movie is bad by anyone who thinks of it with a level head, logicaly or simply just without bias because this movie is bad and frankly cannot continue.

    • @gerstein03
      @gerstein03 5 років тому +5

      River Lovell I am a levelheaded individual and I disagree with most of what you just said

  • @Nadia-ut3qv
    @Nadia-ut3qv 4 роки тому +21

    6:33 “why does everyone have to be related”
    *rise of sky walker*
    Ummmm

  • @matthewmcshane399
    @matthewmcshane399 2 роки тому +30

    i hate how everyone turns on each other in both sides of the argument about star wars. i dont think the sequel triology is perfect. but i still really enjoyed it. The original and prequel trilogies arent perfect but is till really enjoy them.

    • @Cameron19
      @Cameron19 2 роки тому +7

      Yeah. We’re all fans of Star Wars. And we enjoy different aspects of it. Whenever I ask someone what their favourite trilogy is. I’m always fascinated on how everyone’s opinions is different. It just shows how much everyone loves different parts of Star Wars

  • @racool911
    @racool911 4 роки тому +451

    “Why don’t we try the Holdo maneuver? That’s one in a million!”
    Well at least they acknowledged it

    • @kungolaf4499
      @kungolaf4499 4 роки тому +25

      They shouldn't have aknowledged it at all. Took me right out of the movie.

    • @drewrice7567
      @drewrice7567 4 роки тому +20

      But they could have just gotten a million ships to do it and 1 would work

    • @lokkki748
      @lokkki748 4 роки тому +11

      @@drewrice7567 but that would be really expensive and rebels are probably pretty poor

    • @goofymode8205
      @goofymode8205 4 роки тому +1

      When it not work just turn around and do it again

    • @nch6074
      @nch6074 4 роки тому +4

      @@lokkki748 in theory x wings should work and they are really cheap so your point doesn't really make sensr

  • @noahblackwood1824
    @noahblackwood1824 5 років тому +93

    Shout out to the guy in the back that's actually asleep throughout the whole thing

    • @gektoast4968
      @gektoast4968 4 роки тому

      Noah Blackwood that guy is my spirit animal

  • @adventuresinminecraft8539
    @adventuresinminecraft8539 4 роки тому +44

    I feel like the verdict of this case can be applied to any fanbase

  • @jamesbarefoot4989
    @jamesbarefoot4989 3 роки тому +63

    I agree that Poes character was extremely inconsistent. And it's not really the actors fault. It's that Disney decided to have two different directors

    • @notataco4203
      @notataco4203 Рік тому +4

      True Oscar Isaac is an amazing actor

    • @jamesbarefoot4989
      @jamesbarefoot4989 Рік тому +1

      @@notataco4203 I personally enjoy all the sequels. I can enjoy what they tried to do and acknowledge how they messed up some things

    • @notataco4203
      @notataco4203 Рік тому +1

      @@jamesbarefoot4989 good for you I love episode 7 and hate 8 and 9 but everyone has there own opinion I’m not the kind of fan who insults ppl for liking different movies as me

    • @vedpatil2353
      @vedpatil2353 Рік тому +1

      Also he didn’t have a character in TFA

    • @MrDj232
      @MrDj232 Рік тому +1

      Poe wasn't the only one inconsistent. There's no way he set up the plan to destroy the dreadnaught without Leia's approval. So why did she prepare all those slow bombers for certain death only to back out at the last second? Why is it Poe's fault that he followed through with the existing plan rather than getting shot down trying to flee a battle with 0 support? Rhetorical question, I already know it's because we needed the purple haired self-insert character to charge in and own the arrogant man character.

  • @benkayvfalsifier3817
    @benkayvfalsifier3817 5 років тому +367

    We need more Fanboy Court, cause that was hilarious and insightful.

    • @mystery8820
      @mystery8820 5 років тому +20

      Fanboy Court : Game of Thrones.
      We need that after hearing how bad Season 8 was. Also, Chris Johnston (with Noah reprising the role) needs to be the defendant again.

    • @johnwilliams404
      @johnwilliams404 4 роки тому +2

      They could make this into a tv show?

    • @etriganthedemon666
      @etriganthedemon666 4 роки тому +1

      What about what happens in the mcu right now

    • @mystery8820
      @mystery8820 4 роки тому +4

      Fanboy Court: Captain Marvel fans vs Captain Marvel haters.

    • @kaijuguy19
      @kaijuguy19 4 роки тому +2

      I'm now wanting to see Fanboy Court tackle Rise of Skywalker in the future.

  • @nickedits9273
    @nickedits9273 5 років тому +376

    I am surprise they did not talk abut how luke almost killed his nephew even though he saw good in his father

    • @lexxxisz4523
      @lexxxisz4523 5 років тому +31

      I totally agree but ryan Johnson said that jj had left him with an incredibly hard question to answer "why did luke run from the fighting and war? Why was he on anch-to?"
      And he said he had to make it tie into the turnning of Ben solo. So what could luke skywalker have done so wrong to play a role in bens transformation from good to bad.
      And he answered the question but had to go out of charecter to do so. Personally as a writer I wouldnt have made such a beloved charecter a villian to Ben solo but thinking of another way to have gone about it isnt easy. I'm a writer and sometimes I think what could he have done better? But its not easy to think about what luke could have done wrong or bad to further evolve kylo turning point.
      And what ryan did made sense but was kind of twisted for being luke skywalker. So im okay with the scene only because even as a writer I couldnt think of how he could still be a hero but play a huge role in Ben being the main antagonist.

    • @memecliparchives2254
      @memecliparchives2254 5 років тому +28

      @@lexxxisz4523 JJ said that Luke ran away out of shame and blaming himself for failure. That actually makes sense with the saying of Darth Plageuis, he can save others from death but not himself. Apply that to Luke, he can see good in others but not on himself.

    • @lexxxisz4523
      @lexxxisz4523 5 років тому +3

      @@memecliparchives2254 immagine how luke would feel if rey was able to turn kylo after he tried to kill him

    • @kylemorello4787
      @kylemorello4787 5 років тому +10

      Maybe that's why he became a disillusioned hermit? Because he was not the legend everyone built him up to be?

    • @kylemorello4787
      @kylemorello4787 5 років тому +4

      I don't know. Just my take on it. The movie seems to be self aware of how ooc it is for Luke.

  • @magunbfp9030
    @magunbfp9030 4 роки тому +23

    Sooo the Holdo maneuver was risky and 1 in a million according to Rise of the Skywalker, does that mean what was supposed to happen was Holdo escaped to Hyperspace, the First Order blows up all the rebels before they make it to the planet and then go after Holdo?

  • @GarrisonGoldberg
    @GarrisonGoldberg 2 роки тому +7

    3:28
    “But I was going into Toshi Station to pick up some power converters!”
    “This R2 unit has a bad motivator, look!”
    “It just isn’t fair.”
    “Wait a minute. Where’d she go? Bring her back! Play back the entire message!”
    “But it's a whole 'nother year!”
    “But they’re gonna kill her!”
    “NOOOOOOOOO! No!”
    They forgot to add Luke saying, “With the blast shield down, I can’t even see. How am I supposed to fight?”

  • @kaosfan1182
    @kaosfan1182 4 роки тому +403

    "Star Wars hasn't been good since 1983."
    So, we're going to pretend that The Clone Wars, Rogue One, and The Mandalorian don't exist?

    • @Arthus850
      @Arthus850 4 роки тому +5

      A lot of them do.

    • @kaosfan1182
      @kaosfan1182 4 роки тому +20

      @@Arthus850 Yes, all three exist, and from what I've heard, all three are spectacular.

    • @Arthus850
      @Arthus850 4 роки тому +20

      KaosFan11 I meant a lot of the fans pretend they don’t exist. And when they’re forced to acknowledge their existence, they pretend to hate them.

    • @vicenzostella1390
      @vicenzostella1390 4 роки тому +47

      I’m gonna say it... I liked the prequels.

    • @kaosfan1182
      @kaosfan1182 4 роки тому +32

      @@vicenzostella1390 Revenge of the Sith was amazing. The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones both had one good scene, but they weren't good overall movies.

  • @poloism395
    @poloism395 5 років тому +571

    Just saying. Ackbar should've done the maneuver. Literally would've been funny if he steered the ship and aimed it at the first order and went. "This is a trap"
    I've watched alittle too much hishe.
    Edit: so. Just saw this reply section actually went from like 2 to 31. Huh this is gonna be a fun reading (5/11)

    • @johnwick293
      @johnwick293 4 роки тому +36

      Poloism you can never watch to much HISHE

    • @revanchist2256
      @revanchist2256 4 роки тому +12

      yeah nah
      ackbar is not a main character in the film
      and people would of just complained that it was just there to feed people's nostalgia cloud

    • @revanchist2256
      @revanchist2256 4 роки тому +3

      @Mr Burrito lmao so true

    • @poloism395
      @poloism395 4 роки тому +3

      @Mr Burrito probably not. But *shrug* still wouldve been epic.

    • @nikamachavariani8459
      @nikamachavariani8459 4 роки тому

      me too

  • @catching.rainbows
    @catching.rainbows 2 роки тому +7

    “You don’t get to use that reference!”
    I love that

  • @freddymcshreddy6586
    @freddymcshreddy6586 2 роки тому +10

    Noah’s “I need a franchise” ramble at the end was perfect.

  • @liamowen9695
    @liamowen9695 6 років тому +2752

    No one hates Star Wars more than Star Wars fans

    • @RetroRobotRadio
      @RetroRobotRadio 6 років тому +112

      Liam Owen it pisses us off when someone craps on your favorite. Just as Transformers fans about the awful Bay movies.

    • @coleschubert9868
      @coleschubert9868 6 років тому +42

      Liam Owen this is too accurate

    • @kia2065
      @kia2065 6 років тому +29

      Underrated comment 😂😂

    • @oj321
      @oj321 6 років тому +19

      Bogdan 96 Grammar is a very good, is it yes?

    • @kleptopolarbear1609
      @kleptopolarbear1609 6 років тому +20

      agreed...the one thing star wars fans hate more than anything is star wars

  • @t.s.7166
    @t.s.7166 4 роки тому +485

    I love how one of the defendants points is how cool it that Rey doesn't have a past
    How hilarious is that?! Rise of Skywalker completely destroys this

    • @liberpolo5540
      @liberpolo5540 4 роки тому +7

      Davros Concord
      Yeah. But I still wish she were Luke's daughter.
      I dunno, it slightly gives him more weight than the TLJ gives it.

    • @jackbennett6902
      @jackbennett6902 4 роки тому +25

      @Shonksu The only reason that most people dislike that "she's a nobody" reveal, including me, is because force awakens set up so much about her parentage. It's basic chekov's gun. If you see a gun on the wall in the first act, in this case the gun Rey's parentage and the first act is TFA, someone should be shot by the end of the second act, in this case TLJ.

    • @Sea-zu4bj
      @Sea-zu4bj 4 роки тому +10

      Man I wanted to see a galaxy with the new republic, how does the new republic and Jedi order fall so fast and get replace by a New Empire clone

    • @FalconFlyer75
      @FalconFlyer75 3 роки тому +3

      @@jackbennett6902 that's true like nobody really cares about Ahsoka's lineage because they didn't tease it first they kinda baited us with the first movie

    • @howdoichangemyusername9802
      @howdoichangemyusername9802 3 роки тому +2

      @@FalconFlyer75 the point they wanted to bring up with it (I think) is how we expect someone of great power to be the child of someone of great power. It’s still cherkov’s gun. Episode 8 didn’t ditch Rey’s parents. They delivered on the promise of telling us who Rey’s parents were. But like Rey, we didn’t like the answer.

  • @bumble-prime
    @bumble-prime 3 роки тому +19

    We need a sequel to this after Rise of Skywalker

    • @blindinghornet9079
      @blindinghornet9079 3 роки тому +3

      There needs to be some elements and aspects in TROS that are worth defending, which they’re aren’t. I doubt there would be a sequel sorry to say.

    • @gabrielhbosse6030
      @gabrielhbosse6030 2 роки тому

      I would like to see that!

  • @lxrd_vxdr
    @lxrd_vxdr 2 роки тому +10

    When he said that the Emperor had 0 backstory, i thought you would bring up the prequels and how they were one big backstory for Anakin and Palpatine

    • @madhippy3
      @madhippy3 Рік тому +3

      They aren't making the case for the retroactive backstory. When Palps was introduced in the original series there was no backstory. If you give him points for having a retroactive backstory than you cannot say that Snoke has no backstory because at any time he too could get a prequel to flesh him out.

  • @josht7665
    @josht7665 4 роки тому +560

    Note: all of those whiney Luke clips were from before he became a Jedi Knight

    • @420speedweed
      @420speedweed 4 роки тому +3

      so?

    • @nicolasferrari819
      @nicolasferrari819 4 роки тому +88

      @@420speedweed ever heard of character growth?

    • @420speedweed
      @420speedweed 4 роки тому +18

      Nicolas Ferrari and people hate him in TLJ because of it

    • @carterdc3576
      @carterdc3576 4 роки тому +25

      South Park Trump he doesn’t grow in TLJ

    • @420speedweed
      @420speedweed 4 роки тому +33

      Carter DC
      let’s see.
      He starts of as an old hermit who hates everything and he slowly re-grows and fights the first order.
      So it’s more that de-grew and then re-grew, still growth tho.

  • @claytonweyl4135
    @claytonweyl4135 6 років тому +357

    Ah, we live in a world of extremes.

    • @thunderer2838
      @thunderer2838 5 років тому +3

      The Optimist damn dude, well said!👏👌

    • @riahlexington
      @riahlexington 5 років тому

      The Optimist ikr?

    • @RahulPatel-og2ke
      @RahulPatel-og2ke 5 років тому +13

      The Optimist Remember: only a sith deals in absolutes

    • @Obi-Wan_Kenobi
      @Obi-Wan_Kenobi 5 років тому +7

      Not really. And your statement itself is an extreme.

    • @Daosguard
      @Daosguard 5 років тому

      Not really, most people are indifferent to most movies. The opinions on this movie are extreme because of the extreme nature of how awful it was.

  • @dereknight861
    @dereknight861 3 роки тому +9

    10:56
    Ooof
    Coming from the future seeing Mandalorian and the final season of Clone wars...
    My condolences...but you both asked for it.

  • @ryanbarth6691
    @ryanbarth6691 4 роки тому +5

    9:44 that's one way to break up an argument

  • @ultrabigfella
    @ultrabigfella 4 роки тому +61

    "A true fan can appreciative and like the good while still acknowledging the bad."
    Hear that Suicide Squad haters.

    • @TheNthMouse
      @TheNthMouse 4 роки тому

      LMFAO!!!!!

    • @roblosonic505
      @roblosonic505 4 роки тому +7

      Hear that Fandom Menace?

    • @ultrabigfella
      @ultrabigfella 4 роки тому +2

      @Lionard Kirsch I don't know, I liked the score, the cast, the cinematography, the character design.

    • @ultrabigfella
      @ultrabigfella 4 роки тому

      @Lionard Kirsch so like my original comment said. A true fan of DC can like the movie for it's good parts and dislike it for it's bad parts.

    • @ultrabigfella
      @ultrabigfella 4 роки тому

      @Lionard Kirsch I like it's good parts, and dislike it's bad parts...that's the whole point of my comment...sorry if that came across as rude?

  • @HaystackSpartan
    @HaystackSpartan 5 років тому +535

    When he said Anakin is worse than kylo Ren I lost it

    • @orbaitv5991
      @orbaitv5991 5 років тому +49

      For him in the Prequels I think Kylo Ren is better than him in character

    • @geekforeverpixelgamingsurl5007
      @geekforeverpixelgamingsurl5007 5 років тому +49

      Well since Anakin (not Vader) was actually poorly written, then it makes him right.

    • @troo_6656
      @troo_6656 5 років тому +20

      @@geekforeverpixelgamingsurl5007 ehm ehm the clone wars ehm ehm

    • @geekforeverpixelgamingsurl5007
      @geekforeverpixelgamingsurl5007 5 років тому +17

      @@troo_6656 What about it ?
      We're talking the actual movies and + if you are talking about the original Cloe Wars, it's no longer canon. Either way, if Anakin needs story OUTSIDE of his own movies to get clever writing, that only proves my point.

    • @thatgoobyguy9960
      @thatgoobyguy9960 5 років тому +37

      @@geekforeverpixelgamingsurl5007 at least Anakan had character development. Kylo is just emo and he came out of fucking no where withought context. Hes a pathetic excuse for a sith lord. If you could even call him one.

  • @thehighground7926
    @thehighground7926 4 роки тому +12

    I’m so glad that I wasn’t the only person who didn’t like “The Last Jedi”

    • @platy4700
      @platy4700 4 роки тому +4

      How could you possibly go THIS LONG thinking you're the only person who doesn't like TLJ?

    • @tantris2876
      @tantris2876 2 роки тому +2

      Everyone hates it, tf you talking about?

    • @DgardsGaming
      @DgardsGaming 2 роки тому

      you've been spending to much time on Twitter/Reddit. XD

  • @lordzeus2056
    @lordzeus2056 3 роки тому +6

    6:50 : actually it's really creative that Rey is just a normal girl!
    The rise of skywalker releases: oh sh**

  • @georgiemac1784
    @georgiemac1784 6 років тому +1524

    You can love Last Jedi or Hate Last Jedi but we can all agree Melvin is the greatest judge and we always need more of him 🤓🤓

    • @EpicGamerSetzuna
      @EpicGamerSetzuna 6 років тому +12

      Georgie Mac You better believe it!

    • @simpleos9814
      @simpleos9814 6 років тому +9

      I agree with your sentiment.

    • @jeanne-marie6166
      @jeanne-marie6166 6 років тому +11

      Georgie Mac I like TLJ. It might be the best sw movie ever. Hate on me if you want. I don’t care.

    • @georgiemac1784
      @georgiemac1784 6 років тому +8

      HELP ME GET TO 700 SUBS WITH NO VIDEOS!!!!! No hate from me. I enjoyed it the melvin way i guess you could say 😂 it is flawed and that awful casino plot but the kylo and rey parts were amazing and that guard fight scene ❤

    • @EpicGamerSetzuna
      @EpicGamerSetzuna 6 років тому +5

      Georgie Mac Still haven't seen it yet, was the Rey-Kylo bit that good?

  • @queenpenguin5685
    @queenpenguin5685 4 роки тому +42

    Me watching this video AFTER watching Rise of Skywalker...
    We need another fanboy court on that.

  • @ATalesTruth-
    @ATalesTruth- 3 роки тому +21

    8:34 - 9:04 this won the entire case if it was in a real court, because the guy on the left is absolutely right, if all movies were to lack any form of consistency no movie would be investing to any degree

    • @leonpaelinck
      @leonpaelinck Рік тому

      Go watch CinemaSins then

    • @ATalesTruth-
      @ATalesTruth- Рік тому

      @@leonpaelinck if you think cinemaSins does that you don’t know what objective criticism is
      He just points out stuff regardless if it is a valid point or not
      For example this is objective criticism
      ua-cam.com/video/c9Xh7_XvnFI/v-deo.html
      Where if the logic in the film or shows own rules don’t follow suit
      Hence the moment the audience actually sees those inconsistencies you lose investment cause you realize it’s bad writing

  • @redpenguin5602
    @redpenguin5602 3 роки тому +18

    The Holdo light speed jump doesn’t make sense but it’s cool and we’re having a good time.

    • @Actionfan19
      @Actionfan19 3 роки тому +3

      I actually have a way of explaining how it works. It's the combined physics of a bullet being shot into the water at point blank range and a shrapnel bomb. Doesn't make it any less of being so beyond outta left field it obliterates the in universe lore but at least someone else knows the function of it.

    • @cameronbaker97
      @cameronbaker97 3 роки тому +2

      come on, that shot was one in a million.

    • @jirito7470
      @jirito7470 3 роки тому +1

      no

    • @bruhsselsprouts3986
      @bruhsselsprouts3986 2 роки тому +1

      @@cameronbaker97 they literally show someone else doing it again in rise of skywalker above endor.....

    • @cameronbaker97
      @cameronbaker97 2 роки тому +1

      @@bruhsselsprouts3986 I was quoting the movie bro.

  • @arnigx
    @arnigx 4 роки тому +98

    Is “the rise of skywalker” Bad? (Fanboy Court) ........ plz..... :(

    • @ryanbarth6691
      @ryanbarth6691 4 роки тому

      I'd like to see that

    • @loganforrest5332
      @loganforrest5332 3 роки тому

      That would be entertaining...

    • @MrShreyash0307
      @MrShreyash0307 3 роки тому +6

      @@loganforrest5332 It won't be ... because it is genuinely bad ... Controversies are entertaining because they can be swayed into any direction.

    • @joeytaylor1021
      @joeytaylor1021 3 роки тому

      arnigx that would be awesome

    • @cosmicmaster1006
      @cosmicmaster1006 3 роки тому +1

      @@MrShreyash0307 but its not bad

  • @dansomething7742
    @dansomething7742 5 років тому +979

    I agree with the anti guy. You can have any system of logic and rules that you want, but everything after has to remain true to those rules

    • @masonschmid2329
      @masonschmid2329 5 років тому +40

      @Frank Wells when was you know, BREATHING IN SPACE OR FORCE ILLUSIONS IN THE PREVIOUS MOVIES you can't just make abilities it has to be grounded

    • @masonschmid2329
      @masonschmid2329 5 років тому +23

      @Frank Wells well super jumping Luke did against Vader in both 5 and 6 and the emperor used lightning hands in 6

    • @masonschmid2329
      @masonschmid2329 5 років тому +35

      @Frank Wells also not to mention the original trilogy set the standard for star wars by introducing abilities, so for the sequels with the Mary Sue (Rey) and edgelord 76( kylo ren) just make up abilities and make the excuse," I did it with the force" when Rey had just found out the force was real days ago and kylo being an edgelord, well that speaks for itself

    • @masonschmid2329
      @masonschmid2329 5 років тому +40

      @Frank Wells seeing the emperor shoot lightning out of his hands was a sign of how powerful he was, it was stated in the original movies how powerful the dark side could be. Clearly you don't know how narrative works, in a story, the first parts of a story introduces the elements and characters. They waited this long and then conveniently out of nowhere " guess what I can breathe in space" here's a question I bet you can't answer, How exactly did Leia survive the cold vaccum of space that instantly kills normal people, and survive a freaking EXPLOSION FROM A TIE FIGHTER MISSLE? The answer...............??? That's right you can't. The new trilogy just makes things out of nowhere and that is why the last jedi has no sense of its own internal consistency of elements and plot

    • @masonschmid2329
      @masonschmid2329 5 років тому +16

      @Frank Wells Fair enough, kylo ren is a FANTASTIC villain and the best character, and I don't just see through the original trilogy, the force awakens was great, and I'm not saying the last Jedi was as bad as the phantom menace, it's just it had flaws and so did the original trilogy.now if we were talking about the flaws of star wars we could skip jar jar because we can't beat a dead horse. But however the last Jedi HAD PLENTY OF PROBLEMS SUCH AS; ROSE,
      LEIAS WIERD SPACE RESURRECTION,
      ROSE,
      CANTO BITE,
      LUKES CHARACTER/ ATTITUDE,
      REY,
      ROSE,
      MARY SUE AKA REY,
      ROSE,
      AND FINALLY..... THE HOLDO MANIVEUR

  • @Airagon_
    @Airagon_ 3 роки тому +6

    Sorry but the dude who hated episode 8 is entirely right and shouldn't have been punished

  • @G.S.I_Labs
    @G.S.I_Labs 3 роки тому +12

    Me: at least these sequels cant get any worse.
    RISE OF SKYWALKER RELEASES
    Also me: Disney...WHY?!?

  • @SwivellingEel
    @SwivellingEel 4 роки тому +198

    6:29 "Rey being nobody is much better than being Obi-Wan's granddaughter! Why does everyone have to be related??"
    Disney: Whoops.

  • @elmiau4225
    @elmiau4225 6 років тому +184

    “When has Luke not being winey”
    Ever heard of Return of the Jedi?

    • @omnitrixian
      @omnitrixian 5 років тому +24

      MauGamer42 “Unfortunate that I know the truth?”
      “Obi-wan? Why didn’t you tell me?”
      “FATHER PLEASE!”

    • @elmiau4225
      @elmiau4225 5 років тому +27

      omnitrixian You call that whiny? Seriously? His voice didn’t even sound whiny during those moments. Literally ANYONE would be pissed of if someone had the truth hidden from them. So asking Obi-wan why he didn’t tell him about Vader is whiny, so if I ask you a question that automatically make ME whiny? Finally, that “FATHER PLEASE” moment... Do you seriously expect him not to scream when he is in so much pain?

    • @omnitrixian
      @omnitrixian 5 років тому +6

      Dude . . . learn to not take things so seriously

    • @elmiau4225
      @elmiau4225 5 років тому +12

      omnitrixian Welcome to the internet, you have to realize there are really stupid people who are actually serious when they comment.

    • @lightyearpig12
      @lightyearpig12 5 років тому +2

      But I was going to Tosche Station to pick up some power converters!

  • @cjhs2006
    @cjhs2006 3 роки тому +51

    The Only 2 Parts That I Was ok With in The Last Jedi Was The Porgs,&,Rey Handing Luke His Old Lightsaber Then Luke Tossing His Old Lightsaber Right Off The Cliff Behind Him Because Hilarious,Everything Else,I Hated Especially Holdo Completely Destroying That 1st Order Star Destroyer Because The Only Other Time That I’ve Ever Seen a Ship Have That Kind of Destruction Capability Was in The Non Canon LEGO Star Wars:The Freemaker Chronicles With The Arrowhead,&,It’s Kyber Saber Crystal Hull,Did The Last Jedi Make All of That Canon?Because if it Didn’t Than I’m Just Even More Pissed

    • @skillfulwave6592
      @skillfulwave6592 2 роки тому +1

      Lol my younger cousin wouldnt even go that far with his lego sets

    • @aidanmullard8508
      @aidanmullard8508 Рік тому

      I'm OK with Luke not needing the saber.
      Beacuae he has his own, and has moved past that point.
      So it would have been better if he just tossed it back to rey and then they talked.

  • @mrsnuffles2320
    @mrsnuffles2320 3 роки тому +8

    I just have to ask, how does this hold any legality. Can they get the chair for seeing Star Wars now?

  • @ShadowKusano
    @ShadowKusano 6 років тому +245

    I didn't like the movie. If you did, I can respect that. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. That simple.

    • @lorna4550
      @lorna4550 6 років тому +17

      I respect you

    • @lorna4550
      @lorna4550 6 років тому +4

      That sounded weird didn't it?

    • @StateOfTheMind11225
      @StateOfTheMind11225 6 років тому +5

      Alucard no, you cant. In this era you have to commit to opinions or else risk losing yourself being part of the right or the left.

    • @ShadowKusano
      @ShadowKusano 6 років тому +3

      Nuclear Paradox No it didn't.

    • @christianboy7290
      @christianboy7290 6 років тому +3

      Alucard backwards is dracula?

  • @Htes_Mortslhad
    @Htes_Mortslhad 4 роки тому +62

    Rey is related to nobodies turn out she is related to Sidious

    • @ffjreviews9029
      @ffjreviews9029 4 роки тому +1

      Nasser Al Khalifa Palpatine and sidious are the same character

    • @kungolaf4499
      @kungolaf4499 4 роки тому +2

      @Nasser Al Khalifa Darth Sidious is Palpatine's Sith name.

    • @shreyaskumar1034
      @shreyaskumar1034 3 роки тому

      Lol that’s the laziest thing Disney has ever done

    • @someprofile6965
      @someprofile6965 3 роки тому

      Wait wasn't it a misformed Palpatine clone not the actual Palpatine or am I wrong

    • @hendriksmies5984
      @hendriksmies5984 2 роки тому

      @@someprofile6965 It was a cloned body possessed by the actual spirit, and it was deteriorating because of how powerful he was.

  • @DedricSilva
    @DedricSilva 2 роки тому +3

    “Star Wars hasn’t been good since 1983.”
    Uh what about Star Wars Books, Comics, Games, The Clone Wars, Bad Batch, and now Mandalorian even though the last two came out after this video.

  • @mc-maitrixgaming4330
    @mc-maitrixgaming4330 3 роки тому +5

    Never seen anyone profit off of both sides of star wars before Clone wars- Banking clan, Trade federation, Techno union

    • @Remix-pr4xd
      @Remix-pr4xd 3 роки тому +1

      Or you know, Palpatine himself.

  • @toqkaizogou1636
    @toqkaizogou1636 4 роки тому +32

    4:25 At that point Lucas had already promised the prequel trilogy. Also Palpatine wasn't suddenly added out of nowhere. He was mentioned in IV, made a small appearance in V and then finally got a big role in IV, and was going to have a big role in the prequels. Snoke was thrown in Episode SEVEN. Before that, last we'd seen was the Empire defeated, and never any mention of anyone like Snoke. He just suddenly appeared out of nowhere, and was somehow already in charge of the First Order, already managed to turn the son/nephew of the original heroes to the dark side, and everyone talks about him as if he's always been here and that they've known about him for ages. So forgive us if we expect some answers on who the hell this guy is.

    • @nicholaspokorny5058
      @nicholaspokorny5058 Рік тому

      Roman Numeral 6 is VI.

    • @madhippy3
      @madhippy3 Рік тому +1

      And snoke made an appearance in 7, what is your point. The emperor as just a dude who told Vader what to do is true for all the movies. Erase all of what you know from book and the prequels and then watch to original trilogy. Palps has no history, no clear motivations, and no complexity as a character just like Snoke.
      He gets an interaction with the characters in their debut and they dies shortly after. Only difference is Johnson didn't string you along for 3 movies. Expectations were subverted. Snoke was the leader of the FO but he was not the BBEG, because that was going to be the emotionally unstable Kylo. I am not suggesting this was a good thing, but at least (before the EMperor returned) Kylo was a BBEG we actually knew as a character.

    • @nathans9764
      @nathans9764 Рік тому +1

      ​@@madhippy3 subverting expectations doesn't make something innately good. We didn't know who Palatine was because we had no background. That's not true for Snoke. If the prequels came out and Palatine was not present in them, that would have been unsatisfying.
      So the state of the world is known to us leading into episode 7: Palatine spent 20 years hunting down and exterminating force users. Yet we have this character spoken of as though he's both powerful and a fixture. Someone well known. But that directly conflicts with previously established lore, so there has to be an exciting reason for him to have gone from hidden from the emperor and his inquisitors to running the empire 2.0, right? Oh, nope. We're just going to cut the story thread because it's problematic. And now the presumed big bad is the guy who throws toddler tantrums.
      It reads less like an attempt to introduce nuance and more like Johnson wanting to do a 180 on everything Abrams set up. Which matches with his statement about setting it on fire like a viking funeral.

  • @ivantaquino882
    @ivantaquino882 4 роки тому +209

    Classics: good story, decent fight scenes, lacked effects because of the time
    Prequels: great effects and fight scenes, filled out story, some writing issues
    Disney Trilogy: good effects, lazy fight scenes, ignores the universe' logic, major writing issues to say the least.

    • @spacejamonblu-ray2841
      @spacejamonblu-ray2841 4 роки тому +6

      Ivan Taquino could not agree more

    • @knighteousstudios7397
      @knighteousstudios7397 4 роки тому +17

      Some writing issues? Just being so generous. And I’m sorry but the Attck of the Clones fight is lazy af

    • @kojack_ay99
      @kojack_ay99 4 роки тому +9

      Hey Ivan the effects on the og star wars were groundbreaking for its time, some could say they did what has never been done before during that time in vfx. As great as the effects are in the newer star wars none of them were as groundbreaking during there time.

    • @nicolasfattoruso7048
      @nicolasfattoruso7048 4 роки тому +1

      i would like this comment but it has 66 likes which is a holy number in the star wars universe.

    • @jackpoop4131
      @jackpoop4131 4 роки тому

      Stfu

  • @SpartanM
    @SpartanM 2 роки тому +14

    Rebel: "Hey guys, there is a Death Star coming into range."
    Rebel commander: "Hey Bill, we got another one. Fire up the lightspeed missiles."

    • @aronnemcsik
      @aronnemcsik Рік тому +1

      Rebel commander to the Chief Engineer: "Hey Frank you gonna have a field day! The Death Star is coming and I need you to Juryrig a navigation system and some unused hyperdrive to asteroids and yeet it at them."
      Chief engineer:" Ok but only Asteroids tho? We have a few Unused moons laying around. The math becoming wonky but whatever. Ok guys Let's go yeet giant rocks to them bastradrs!"

  • @drcool5517
    @drcool5517 3 роки тому +5

    "Why can't you make videos for kids to enjoy.?" Why does every second have to be filled with profanity?"

  • @sketep1117
    @sketep1117 6 років тому +79

    Did everyone just forget that the emperor In the prequels was helping, sponsoring, and profiting of of both sides? Oh wait I forgot "never in a star wars movie have we seen anything like this"

    • @Joeybsmooth
      @Joeybsmooth 6 років тому +10

      Peter Yermishkin Han at the start of a new hope.

    • @Scorkey333
      @Scorkey333 6 років тому +6

      If your including the cartoons, The Clone Wars addressed the dealings of the banking cartel with both sides of the war in a handful of episodes.

    • @spiderdalorian5666
      @spiderdalorian5666 6 років тому +1

      Scorkey333 they were talking about the movies

    • @spiderdalorian5666
      @spiderdalorian5666 6 років тому

      Peter Yermishkin palpetine was pulling strings but the rich people don’t care about a side they just sell weapons

    • @sebsandwich1162
      @sebsandwich1162 6 років тому +1

      And what about the canon and non-canonical books.

  • @Obi-Wan_Kenobi
    @Obi-Wan_Kenobi 6 років тому +790

    Yes they do show people profiting from both sides of the war. That is what Palpatine was doing in the entire prequels. And Rey's parents being nobodies is not revolutionary. Every single Jedi expect for the Skywalker family was born from nobodies. I beat Anakin, the chosen one, and I was a nobody. I don't have a problem with Rey being a nobody. I have a problem with the previous film hyping it up so much and then making it amount to nothing for no reason other than surprise. You can't blame the fans for being mad about that when the Episode 7 was intentionally created with a mystery surrounding Rey. The creators wanted you to be invested and when Episode 8 pulls the rug from underneath you and tell you that none of that matters anymore it's insulting to how much fans care and were interested to the story.

    • @lucapellegrine2961
      @lucapellegrine2961 6 років тому +35

      General Kenobi.

    • @tuxedotrooper8821
      @tuxedotrooper8821 6 років тому +58

      They didn't hype up Rey's parents. The fans did

    • @sladewright5779
      @sladewright5779 6 років тому +33

      It added to Rey's character. She was being pulled by this "who are my parents" mentality and to find out she's nobody adds to her character. And yeah the first movie really didn't touch on her parents much. The fans overhyped it.

    • @joelmole3157
      @joelmole3157 6 років тому +8

      You're just sad that she's not your granddaughter. I'm sure you have an awesome grandchild out there somewhere (provided that you and Satine Kryze actually had a relationship if you know what I mean)

    • @legoroan9866
      @legoroan9866 6 років тому +4

      Obi-Wan Kenobi there's no proof Rey is related to someone special in episode VII there IS evidence she's a nobody

  • @jadedemotions9891
    @jadedemotions9891 4 роки тому +18

    I'm in the middle here;
    Last Jedi has great characterisation and subtext in a rather aimless, convoluted and stupid movie

    • @aaronkelly1762
      @aaronkelly1762 2 роки тому

      Really, I'd say the thing with Luke will be the make or break for you.
      Personally I think Rey's storyline was the only actual good one,even if I'm kind of iffy with the handling of look.
      Finn's was just filler with a couple cool moments (and a deleted alternate scene that's arguably better than the scene used in the actual movie) and Poe's was a neat idea but poorly executed.

  • @GamerGrovyle
    @GamerGrovyle 3 роки тому +20

    Protest about the Holdo manuever being the perfect Anti-Death Star tactic.
    Death Stars are a lot bigger and denser to the point of being mistaken for a moon.
    Ramming any ship into it even at light speed would be useless.

    • @aronnemcsik
      @aronnemcsik Рік тому

      they could just attach hyper drives and a navigation system onto planets moons and send it towards the Death Star. I wonder why no one ever thought of doing that with asteroids...
      It's almost as if everyone in the universe knows how hyperspace works........

  • @rocketgroot4311
    @rocketgroot4311 6 років тому +33

    Fanboy Court
    MCU vs DCEU

    • @niamhmorrissey2187
      @niamhmorrissey2187 6 років тому +3

      DC vs Marvel in general would make more sense.
      MCU beats DCEU easily but there are platforms that DC is better than Marvel at & vice versa.

    • @Jasonixel
      @Jasonixel 5 років тому

      Yaaaaaaaas

    • @whokilledfr.
      @whokilledfr. 5 років тому

      Rip Stan lee

  • @boredhuman6512
    @boredhuman6512 6 років тому +238

    I think I'm in a good place in star wars fanbase. Just enjoying movies and then watching memes.

    • @ChipKee01
      @ChipKee01 6 років тому +28

      ladies and gentlemen... a TRUE star wars fan.
      But FR that brings me so much joy. Movies n popcorn followed by juicy memes for depressed teens.

    • @thunderer2838
      @thunderer2838 5 років тому +9

      I like u guys

    • @cleverpsyche115
      @cleverpsyche115 5 років тому +7

      I truly respect you good sir. Unlike the people who put themselves at extremes here.

    • @celticpi7626
      @celticpi7626 5 років тому +3

      bored human The perfect Star Wars fan.Thank you for what you have been doing for this fandom sir.

    • @kmbreezy1
      @kmbreezy1 5 років тому +1

      bored human Fuck yeah!!!

  • @wildste
    @wildste 3 роки тому +5

    I was rewatching this thinking "Why didn't they do a sequel to this with Rise", then I saw the ending and realised it wouldn't make sense.
    Plus the whole thing that happened around that time with the Warp Zone

    • @captaindreadeye6264
      @captaindreadeye6264 Рік тому

      What thing?

    • @wildste
      @wildste Рік тому

      @@captaindreadeye6264 Short version, they nearly couldn't make videos anymore because of who owned the license to the channel

  • @chudtopiagd
    @chudtopiagd 2 роки тому +4

    I hate the argument that a movie can be good because it had "cool" things, rather than good characters and writing, and that fantasy movies cant have logic.

  • @elseworldmedia9482
    @elseworldmedia9482 4 роки тому +91

    "We knew nothing about the Emperor."
    True, but the Emperor had a presence. He had Darth FUCKING Vader kneeling to him and calling him Master...Snoke had buildup with no proper good.

    • @noodledogs
      @noodledogs 4 роки тому +6

      Elseworld Media yeah and we may not know where Palpatine came from but he still had a **purpose.** before he was the emperor, he was the chancellor for the republic and the republic worked very closely with the jedi. so it made sense for him to be in contact with anakin and have influence on the other characters and their fates.
      snoke on the other hand came out of literally nowhere. how did he even find kylo to begin “talking” to him? and then, how did no one else see this wrinkly ass sith speaking to young ben from the shadows and not confront him before??? and why would ben even LISTEN to this random guy?????? there’s a difference between a character being mysterious, and a character just having bad writing.

    • @vernusred4757
      @vernusred4757 4 роки тому

      Wow and that say men/woman about story for kids

    • @maltorvolt9694
      @maltorvolt9694 4 роки тому

      We know he was trained by plaugus, and then killed him after learning all his secrets, (such as how to create and bring back life)

    • @dragonflamefilms5401
      @dragonflamefilms5401 4 роки тому

      @@noodledogs he came from Naboo

    • @rohanann4914
      @rohanann4914 4 роки тому

      I would like to point out that I Snoke also had very similar buildup. Look at the scenes in the force awakens when general Hux and Kylo Ren are kneeling to his hologram. The only reason that palpatine was so intimidating was because of Vader (as you said) however, the only reason Vader was more intimidating then any other Star Wars character was because at that point in time when we first saw Vader we had little to no context of the War, so he becomes more of a threat because he is mysterious, and as we learn more our expectations are challenged (which is also contributing to him being intimidating). Some would day this is better writing, but I think it’s more because if the nature of the story. But when we see Kylo and Snoke the only reason you won’t be as intimidated as you were for Vader is because we know too much about the context of the story, already having six films. Compare this to Vader and palpatine in a new hope however, and you’ll find the opposite is true, given we only had the original trilogy.

  • @avatarmufasa3628
    @avatarmufasa3628 6 років тому +81

    I personally didnt like The Last Jedi, but it certainly had strong points. But i agree that internal consistency is really important for a series, otherwise, people will just stop caring.

    • @luisalejandrolopezbuendia9686
      @luisalejandrolopezbuendia9686 6 років тому +2

      Avatar Mufasa Yhea he's right on that, but the example that he wanted to use wasn't a good choice, because if you pay attention, you see why many people would use the mauver as a last ditch effort, because a ship is most likely expensive, what people use to go lightspeed is also probably expensive, an object with that mass going that fast should actually do more damage, and if done wrong, it could actually do your side of the team more harm than good

    • @Shakiahjprod
      @Shakiahjprod 6 років тому +4

      luis alejandro lopez buendia
      Uhm no. If the rebels are losing anyways sacrificing one life to stop say a couple star destroyers gives you a big advantage

    • @steffighter144
      @steffighter144 6 років тому

      but if they had paid more attention they would have destroyed the ship before it even accelerated to lightspeed...

    • @Shakiahjprod
      @Shakiahjprod 6 років тому

      Steffighter144
      No all they could do was shout move out of the way

    • @avatarmufasa3628
      @avatarmufasa3628 6 років тому +1

      I will make just one comment to this line
      "because a ship is most likely expensive"
      Whilst true, it is considerably less expensive than larger ships. being able to for example put corvettes into lightspeed into a star destroyer. you could probably by a few hundred frigates for 1 star destroyer, so yes a huge military problem. this really needs to be addressed soon, both why it wasnt done in the past and why it wont be done in the future

  • @jeromelancashire3278
    @jeromelancashire3278 3 роки тому +4

    Is The Rise Of Skywalker bad?
    The Plaintiff: YES,
    The Defendant: YES,
    The Judge: FUCKING YES,

  • @thesqweebliest3727
    @thesqweebliest3727 Рік тому +5

    That verdict at the end was the kindest thing a court has ever done

  • @Robpguitar21
    @Robpguitar21 6 років тому +22

    No mention of the story just being a mess? I admit the film looked nice, but the plot points were terribly lined up and transitioned to. There was barely any tension for the fights, and when they ended, it went to another or they distract you with a casino scene.
    You want to talk head cannon? How about the new director's head cannon?

    • @florianchabaud8548
      @florianchabaud8548 6 років тому +2

      Also, the strategy leaders (admirals and generals?) made so many stupid decisions, even civilian people could see these.

  • @bryanegelhoffsanimationtec257
    @bryanegelhoffsanimationtec257 6 років тому +746

    A perfect representation of the flame wars between fans. And I'm with Melvin on this one.

    • @oliveromiyale5808
      @oliveromiyale5808 6 років тому +12

      Same here

    • @yedidyakfir8221
      @yedidyakfir8221 6 років тому +24

      Well.... I don't know, I really hate thr last jedi but the reaaon is that Rian Johnson refuse to acknowledge his flows and give stupid excuses.
      Justuce league also isn't perfect but they are always listening to the fans and trying to improve.

    • @MegaMr46
      @MegaMr46 6 років тому +13

      I agree with Melvin.

    • @yedidyakfir8221
      @yedidyakfir8221 6 років тому +9

      Nate W you misunderstood, I went out of the movie with really bad feeling and immediately disliked it, but I didn't hated it, I was simply sad that they mistreated the franchise to push their own vision.
      But when they refused to see their mistakes, that when I got mad

    • @yedidyakfir8221
      @yedidyakfir8221 6 років тому +7

      Nate W and that's fine. I envy you if you enjoyed the film, however i did not and there are some pretty obvious reasons why is that.
      However Rian Johnson and Kathleen (whatever her last name is) are refusing to hear criticism and I fear that the next movie will be even worse

  • @mr.perfectcell288
    @mr.perfectcell288 2 роки тому +12

    Not being able to see Rise of Skywalker is one thing but not being able to see the final season of Clone Wars or The Mandalorian, that’s rough

    • @loganidol
      @loganidol Рік тому +2

      If I were in the defendant's shoes, I'd go ahead and watch anyway if it sent me to jail!

  • @redninja0078
    @redninja0078 2 роки тому +4

    *Rise of Skywalker comes out*
    Well this aged like fine wine.

  • @hokusman100
    @hokusman100 5 років тому +77

    "You should be more like Star Trek fans"
    1/2 Trek fans: "Discovery is complete sjw trash they have destroyed the franchise!"
    Other 1/2 Trek fans: "Discovery is amazingly perfect, it's elevating the franchise to new levels!"

    • @kutlumzrak2689
      @kutlumzrak2689 5 років тому +5

      That's a complete mischaracterization.
      Most of us just went "meh".
      With an added bonus of "Okay, spore drive in that timeline completely doesn't make sense."
      Which they later tried to retcon by saying all of Pike's Enterprise including Spock were sworn to secrecy about what happened to Discovery.
      But yea, mostly meh.
      It sure wasn't a TNG, but it wasn't even a Voyager level show. More along the lines of Deep Space 9.

    • @hokusman100
      @hokusman100 5 років тому +3

      Kutlu Mızrak Disco as good as DS9? Sure, bud

    • @SCRaetz
      @SCRaetz 4 роки тому +2

      Yes, a complete mischaracterization. Most fans of Star Trek agree that Discovery is garbage, while new fans who have never been into Star Trek think it's great.

    • @balfanghellfire
      @balfanghellfire 4 роки тому +1

      Weird thing is, Star Trek has always been very progressive since the days of Shatner as Kirk in the original.
      My gripe with the new Star Trek is that they keep going backwards in the timeline instead of going forward in the timeline.

    • @LongToad
      @LongToad 4 роки тому +1

      @@balfanghellfire Star Trek Discovery is more like the new Star Trek movies, more about spectacle and drama than anything. The old Star Trek shows and (some movies) had drama and action but it was way more about the substance behind those things. They were always written around some mystery or some philosophical problem to be solved, some lesson to be learned, some encounter that seemed impossible to get out of. In a way they were written a lot like MacGuyver where there was a problem and a puzzle the characters had to solve. It was entertaining to watch because it was always a feeling of "how are they going to solve this, how are they going to get out of this one?" Discovery is pretty but if you know Star Trek fans you'll know they're not watching for the aesthetics.

  • @alphagamma1289
    @alphagamma1289 6 років тому +6

    Haha 9:20 my subtitles read “Divorce! Divorce!”

  • @holidaypunch6621
    @holidaypunch6621 4 роки тому +3

    6:56 Now you just hold on a minute..

  • @IHopegood
    @IHopegood 4 роки тому +4

    Holdo maneuver had no emotion. I wanted her to die. Fight me.

  • @Dannyxbam2016
    @Dannyxbam2016 4 роки тому +24

    you see that guy smiling at the stupidity in the back? yeah, that's a representation of me looking at other star wars fans arguing.

    • @mhuh
      @mhuh 4 роки тому

      They labeled us Trekkies.

    • @deanwinchester8650
      @deanwinchester8650 3 роки тому

      Or that old man just sleeping

  • @RB6717
    @RB6717 6 років тому +95

    The internet in a nutshell...

  • @haz0077
    @haz0077 3 роки тому +5

    YOU ARE WRONG in clone wars we see the banking clan profit of both sides even if they support the separatists more they still profit of both sides

    • @liamlinson7563
      @liamlinson7563 2 роки тому

      these are plebs they dont know what tcw is even though its better than the sequels

  • @SharkTakerYT
    @SharkTakerYT Рік тому +1

    never notice the guy with the cane at the end 😂