Salt Water Shore fishing: Why use a Conventional Fishing Reel vs Spinning reel?
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2018
- Salt Water shore fishing varies from beach fishing, pier fishing and jetty fishing to fishing brackish marshy shorelines. A conventional reel will sometimes be more effective than a spinning reel, and vice versa. Different terrains sometimes call for specialized gear. Today we are talking about when you should use conventional fishing reels and when you should use the standard spinning reel.
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Y’all are the best. We are trying to answer as many people as we can. But we may not be able to answer everyone! Hope you enjoyed our little adventure.
Senko Skipper oh by the way do you have the fish brain app? If you do please let me know so I can add you
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Senko Skipper hey Senko , my name is Steffen and i am writing from my wifes account wich is why the name says Sandie , anyway i am a fan of yor channel and your awsome videos , I live in Denmark and was wondering if you would ever consider visiting this little country to do some surf casting :) ?, you see here it is a novelty to some extent and i am curious what species can be caught here with the exception of cods and herring and the occasional trout, what do you say ? :) , thank you for all the videos, looking forwad to some more :) , perhaps some ouside the US .
Was a great vid but I prefer spinning myself.
Is that braid on that penn
Never reel in when your drag is going you'll twist the line plus tighting your drag
Was hard watching you wind in on a loose drag while fish was running
I see uncle phill back there with that puff bar
Was the first thing I came for the comments for lmao
Dudes just enjoying his evening chilling lol
Dude you guys are awesome. Both of you are extremely unorthodox but extremely informational for new fishermen/women. You remind me a lot of myself when I was learning to fish. Keep up the great work and keep the vids come. Blessings to you guys and the fam!! 👍🏻🐠🐟
Thanks for the kind words, alex! Haha we like to keep it a little unorthodox as long as we are helping people 👍🏼 we appreciate you watching and commenting. Thanks for being part of our community
Was a very enjoyable vid. You really captured the session and bought the vibe to people.
All the best.
Thanks for sharing. It was fun to watch! Notice that your line is twisted on your spinning reel? Every crank against the drag puts another twist on your line. You have to tighten down the drag a bit or pump the rod and take up the slack . Have fun!
love my baitrunners. I got a few Shakespeare Beta 60FS reels for fast river trolling to lake float, I'm looking at loading one up with 30lb braid and using it for surfcasting.
Been using a Penn Int (also a gift from my dad) for many years, caught great fish off her. We use it at the beach for our own videos! Great content, thanks for posting man and happy fishing!
“No need to refrigerate it as long as u keep it in room temperature or in a refrigerator”
He is saying you can keep it in room temperature, or if you want to put it in refrigerator.😂😂😂🤔🤔
FPS Gaming He meant no need to put it the freezer. If you have common sense then you would know what he exactly meant 🤡
I know that feeling and I've had that look on my face. Great job with the camera and the editing. Caught what fishing is all about, and the true moment. Spinning reel all the way.
Haha, thank you! It was still a great day of fishing. Appreciate you commenting 👍🏼
You should do a video on “how to scale your drag”. It’s basically setting the drag at a percentage of the line weights breaking strength using a hand held fishing scale, around 25%.You’d be surprised how tight your drag should be for 10-12 lb. braids.
Very interesting video idea, thanks for the suggestion!
I really loved the educational moment for the baitcast conventional reel!
Man, I felt that loss in my hands too! Hopefully another day will bring you better luck!
Sup Senko, been fishing with conventional reels for some time I realize that taking off the line laying control increases your casting distance. Here in Hawaii we use the pen senators 4/0 and up for ulua fishing with 13 foot poles. I always wet the line before casting lessons the burn on the thumbs when casting a sinker. And yes still get that birds nest even after all these years. Keep doing what you, tight lines and Aloha from Hawaii.
Are these the 100-lb fish you hurl a sinker out, then use a second rod and slide a big bait out with a mechanism that travels over the the line from the first rod?
@@RonDevito it's one of the ways we fish called hang bait. In the mainland they call it trolley fishing. Other ways is to cast out a heavy sinker 6oz to 12oz to break away line. Bait is slid down fish sets the hook and the slide stops at a buckle. Lead line breaks and the figh begins.
This was a great overview. I like that Penn. It's a real classic. Nice size too.
I’m sure the fish appreciates your food preparation skills ! 😁
Thanks for the lesson and happy fishing ! 👍
Great fishing dude! Striper fishing is the best! My favorite along with Corvina. I think its amazing to be able to catch them from the bank like that! A lot less expensive than a boat for sure. But if I may, one thing I noticed that you are doing in the excitement is reeling against the drag while your fish is pulling line. This causes your line to twist up and its hard on your drag system. But your a great fisherman!
Great advice on your videos. Thanks for sharing!
Hi I have read quite a few comments about why you lost your fish! Fish do get away sometimes that's why it's called fishing and not even catching, it's all part of the game! 🎣👍
Try tightening ur drag. Its spinning waay too much. Thats why u didnt catch that last fish
and maybe also dont reel in while the fish is pulling line
And get rid of them damn bells too it's not Christmas yet lol
I wanted to reach through the video and grab the rod
J-mac 😂
what's a drag?
I have caught a 24 pound black drum on my 7'6" hurricane calico jack rod with the boca size 5 reel with 12 pound mono with a 20 pound shock
😵😵 that must have been a crazy fun fight!
It was nail biting.
For the big sharks and tarpon I like the conventional reels too. Might swap out my spinning reels for the smaller fish one of these days to see how it feels but for big guys a conventional setup is king.
We've all been there Brendan. The nice thing (and trust me, I'm a Red Sox fan so I lived this for almost 50 years) is that there's always next time.
That shot for the outro was an amazing setup - nice job Erin!!!
Thanks John!! I appreciate it! 😊
Avet reels make a great conventional lever drag reel with magnetic cast control. After using the SX model for a while I bought an Avet SX Raptor 2 speed that works ridiculously well for fishing bridge pilings and kayak.
But they cost alot
You might consider using a true circle hook that turns in on itself. Was hard to see yours but it seemed it may not have been. Once hooked up on a circle it's rare the fish can shake it. Thanks for this video it gives me confidence to surf cast my penn 500
Thank you this video is exactly what I needed
Great episode, we need to learn more about the conventional reels please
When you cast, try turning the reel to the side on the follow through. It works with the Avet reels.
Thanks for the tip!
4:30 Great tip. Always wondered how but not wanting to risk it. Cheers
nice to see you back
Thanks I have a baitcaster and you helped me to learn to use it
Can't wait to use the salted squid, thanks guys
Nice job thank you for sharing
enjoyed your videos for the last 5-6years keep up the videos
good evening po happy to watch your blog completely ..i learned alot God Bless po
Hey Brandon and family I was wondering what is a good rod for beginners and kids? I really enjoy the videos keep up the good work 👊🏾
Hey, where's this secret spot I'm not supposed to ask about?
Couldn't resist.
Thx for the help man on the conventional rod tips
Sure!
AMAZING VIDEO! THANK YOU!!!
thank YOU for watching!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Pump the rod and then reel and tighten drag.
Good video!
4 years later I'd bet you would fight that fish a little different?
Uncle Bill's a vape god
This young grasshopper has alot to learn!
Great vids been with u since 14k love your videos
You are the best!
Been here since 1, I win.
Sorry to hear your Dad has passed on. Love your vids.
Broo i felt your pain 100% 😱😱😱🙈. That happened to me with a monster blue last season . Jumped twice on me and i ended up losing it by the rocks.
love watching these
Love your channel man. Keep doing what you’re doing. Learning a lot from you. By the way, what’s your uncle smoking in the background back there? Lol. I saw him puffing on something right after you lost that fish.
Great scenery!
Your uncle Bill must be loving it over there in the US. Over here that would be a lifetime catch. He say's it's alright lol, you guys are so lucky here at the other end of the Atlantic we are not so lucky.
Great Presentation
I hope one daywe fish together im a big fan of yours dude keep fishing you encourage many people amd drag them on oir hobby ! Tight lines dude
looks like you culda had your drag a little tighter for that one that got away on the spinning reel. Fish only needs to pull drag on its hardest runs,.. nice video, great reel info, remember to mention the advantage of spinning reels for casting lighter rigs and lures, simce the conventional needs some weight to throw.
I'm 54 y/o and my grandfather taught me how to fish when I was 8. He had a Penn Senator reel. I wish I still had it :(
I just realized you were in Maryland. I am km Virginia beach!!! Great channel
Good ending! Lol I was cracking up
Sorry I missed the live broadcast it’s crazy right now in Sarasota Florida we got the 88 Daniel tarpon tournament so that’s been a bit nuts got the CCA tagged red fish catch and release there’s all kind of fish you can enter in to that thing and the freshwater FWC has tournament year around so it’s crazy right now love the videos I have both conventional and spinning and I just depends on where I’m fishing and for what?😎
Do you have a video on how to use your thumb for conventional reeling in? Please also cover how braid behaves vs mono on this setting.
Great video and Great Channel❗️
Thank you!! So awesome to hear that people like what we are doing 😁😁
Them feels when they spit the hook :( outro song was a perfect accompaniment haha. Head up Brendon you'll pump the next one :)
Just a humble piece of advice you never keep reeling when the fish is running, hence why you lost the fish. Live and learn. Good video and tight lines.
Great video
Try a reel that is not a level wind. maybe a slosh 30. Its a GREAT surf fishing reel and will handle the fish you can catch from the surf! Great vids!!
ngl...when you asked us audience if it made sense (4:25) i laughed when your camera operator "mmhmm" too
I was told to not reel against the drag. I always do it and I have "learned" several times the hard way to try and not do it. I end up having to respool every time.
Love the penn reels but are a pain to cast.
Spinning reals are just easier for constant casting etc.. really depends on where you’re at.
Agreed man. Spinning is more convenient
Senko Skipper if you have the current they are nice to just drop and let drift.
Issue here in Florida, as you explained is the wind. It’s rare that we have a fishing day without 5-15 mile an hour gusts and the backlash.....
The thing is the gearing on the penn vs my van staals.. it’s actually pretty fair comparison but on the smaller reels you just don’t get the power..
We call those Multiplier reels over the pond though ideally we wouldn't use one with a guide (for casting we use those ones on boats) because it reduces the casting distance, saying that I still use my cheap NGT FRL-LS3000 reel for casting and that has a guide.
Also if you want to get even more distance from it try learning to pendulum cast :)
Great vid
Nice vid guys. And a waa waa wooo for the pulled hook
Ahaha waa waa woo!
I bought my first bait caster rod and line for $ 2. 98 cents back in the 1950's guess I'm old anyway I do a lot of surf fishing here in Florida and using top gear like Shimano's spinning reels in the $ 200 range even though I rinse after each use I found bearings have a habit of seize up or something else breaks after a year or so I send them back to factory some times in a baggie since I can't seem to repair or fix myself Shimano charges $ 25 and normally sends me a new reel which takes 6 to 7 weeks to get back what a great service but a loss of fish time.
I recently purchased a Seigler SM bait caster multipier reel lifetime warranty spooled with 20lb mono and a 12foot surf rod I can cast further than my surf spinning reel outfits with less sinker weight and the control of big brutes is much better and I actually out cast an air launch bait tube guy on the beach today.
I can take a part a bait caster and do a deep clean and grease without any problems but my hands and those small screws defeat me every time especially the bailer. True it takes time to learn to throw the multiplier reel but once you do you will be using the spinner much less.
Thanks for sharing, bob! I love hearing your story about buying that baitcaster for $2.98! What kind was it? I love those vintage reels 😁
What 12” Rod did you use with that reel? I’m looking to purchase a surf setup now, all of my reels are spinning reels
Bob Scruggs so you're about 60?
Almost 77
can't remember I used it for Carp fishing and would sell the Carp for $ 1- 2 then buy a Pepsi and cupcakes then get back $ . 02 cents foe refund on bottle things sure have changed.
I like the baitcasters, that is, those with magnetic brake, in addition to the normal star drag. Set to 5, it's the best of both worlds.
If you have proper thumb control, you should be able to set the brakes to 0. Those things cast a lot further without brakes
@@ertren6 Yes, of course, however essentially if you do that though, you are talking about the traditional multiplier reels which I grew up with (and still have), like the Penn 49, Penn 500L, up to modern day versions like the Daiwa Saltiga, Shimano Thorium etc.
These are not baitcasters though, have no magnetic (or even centrifugal) brakes, and mostly lack level winders as well, it's just you, your thumb and the open reel (though the spool tension knob is crucial using those reels).
So why/when would I use a baitcaster instead of them ? When I'm casting and retrieving paddletail jigheads, spoons etc whilst standing chest deep in strong tide.
Use the traditional multiplier you describe only makes sense if you want to cast a fresh bait in deep onto a sandbank without much wading, and then either stand with your rod, or put it into a rodholder for another rod cast.
Different things have different uses, I still use both kinds for both uses, as described.
@@maaifoediedelarey4335 I'm only familiar with current baitcasters lol. I have no experience in the ones you're talking about. Definitely wanna look into them now. Thanks
*Very convenient,not bulky has a good feel in the hand I did order a second one which is much shorter in length for short casting. If you’re not fishing for sharks it’s a great deal.*
You are a great dude
That particular conventional is pretty tough to cast for distance without a back-lash. The best conventionals on the market: Akios, Daiwa Millionaire and Abu Garcia Blue Yonder. Those are specifically designed for surf casting.
Any good budget ones under 200
Beautiful ending
Man that penn international is beautiful! I don’t really use conventional that often.
Same Jeremy! This is one of the only conventional I own and use. It’s a good change though!
A reason i like spinning reels with rear drag is the ease of ajustment playing big fish!
hey skipper the 975 penn has a cast control on the left side inside slows the spool so no bird nest there is three settings 4, 2, 0,
Want to see a catch & cook for strip bass like fresh from the ocean or river .
Yesss. But first I must catch a legal size!
Senko Skipper ok thanks but what's the legal size for them
All depends on the time of year. During summer I think it goes down to 20” minimum
Senko Skipper its 19 now
Nice video quality. What camera did you use? Was there a separate microphone?
Nice video guys
Thanks for watching and commenting, Jason! Happy to hear that you enjoyed it 😁
Your big strike your drag was a little loose.Good strike!!Good video
Now you know how your buddy Louie feels in your other video....The big one that go away ....so many fish! so so many, that feeling sticks with us all.
Hello skipper, I have some old Penn conventional reels from I believe the 90s would your recommend using them over my spinning rods?
tighten your drag that why you lost that fish they will bend your hook fast so you have to get them in as fast as possible
Next time 😭
Last night I hooked up with what had to be a 20# flathead. Had it at the gunwhale on the boat. It had been spinning a lot. That's what they do. At the last second it flipped it's tail and spit the lure into the boat. Waved bye bye with it's right fin then splashed me with it's tail. Was using a pretty light rig with 20# test braided line. Rhino rod. El cheepo. At least I got to see mine. ;)
I agree with the accuracy with casting with conventional reels but can't use braided line on them it don't pack tight on the spool like mono had to take it off my ABU 6500 CL Big Game that I souped up with ceramic spool bearings dual bearing worm gear with ceramic paw and a dual bearing drive cog for the level wind it blows up with braid and does the same with my Blue Yonder
Nice vid guys! I get soo frustrated using conventional reels. After the 2nd or 3rd birds nest I end up back to the spinning reels lol.
Agree.waist of money
I felt your pain and anguish! The sad music was hilarious though.
😂😭😂😭
Bad advice saying to use the free float tensioner to control the spool. It adds pressure to the spindle and cauae wear to the spindle.
Get a reel with a braking system, either centrifugal or magnetic. The use of using the free float use to be the way untill reels were made with more effiecient systems to slow the spool down
What rod do you use with the penn
I watch all of your videos and I come from the UK to ask your uncle Bill if he knows a place called suffok
Would love to see more baitcaster info
You forget to mention that handle of the spinning reel can be moved to the left or the right side of the reel so it is convenient for both left and right handers. Conventional reel is always rod in the ler
ft hand, reel handle in the right.
What is the best line to use for shark or big fish and are u ever going to go to Corpus Christi and make a video and can you show us how to make a sabiki rig
Hey skipper if you read this I want to learn how to use a conventional reel with braid for casting I always use mono so I don’t burn my finger can you give tips on how to use my thumb on braid thx.
hope ur giant stripe bass hunt goes well. for me its spinning reels any day. easy to maintain, look after n operate. overheads tbh requires too many attention its not exactly fun. usually wen i go light tackle i use 2500 and for surfcasting 6000 - 8000 sized reels
Understandable! I use mostly spinning myself. Thanks for sharing!
Basic_Fishing You're missing a lot of fun.See Asian angler Gong Lei's videos of what can be done with baitcasting reels in expert hands,you'll be floored.
Basic_Fishing i find the multiplier reels are the type of thing that are for people that want to look fancy when they fish like fly fishermen.lol i do all kinds of finishing and i do prefer a spinning reel in fresh water but i prefer round reels for strippers
Steve G i get out around 160yards with bate and 6oz but usually the old man that is not even standing to cast and using the same Bates as me catches more than anyone. Usually once you got a line in the water you got a chance and most of the action is 30ft to 60ft out so spinning reels are all good and some people don't think the added confusion is worth it. It's like driving stick is fun for some and not for others. Getting birds nestled with new line is like doing a burnout and sliding into a tree lol.
@@terrencewrigley8860 I use all three types of reels.When flyfishing fish will only take lures that can't be cast with either spinning or baitcasting, once some very large trout were feeding on insects that were as small as ground black pepper, if you didn't fly fish you just didn't catch any.As for baitcasting, it's no big deal to lay out long smooth casts and put a lure exactly where you want it.Spinning is the most versatile tackle there is,but it doesn't have the accuracy of baitcasting nor can it throw the nearly weightless flies to rising fish.No need to feel bad if you don't happen to baitcast or fly fish do what is most fun for you.
Do not wind while he is taking line...you are putting twist in your line...love your vidios.You two make a nice couple and seems as though you two really are enjoying life!
Not sure if anyone has ever told you but you are never supposed to crank a spinning reel if the fish is going for a run and peeling your drag. Reason: you'll get line twist. Something that will equally ruin the hell out of your day as much as overrun will. The proper way is the pull up on the rod (not high sticking) then on the way down crank. If you're not getting line twist then maybe it doesn't matter.
As far as conventional reels/baitcasters if you're fishing at night into the sunrise I prefer a spinning outfit since you can't see a damn thing at night to manage the overruns. Other than that I prefer a conventional because they cast smoother, less chance of line twist, and typically are more rugged and stronger, though spinning reels now are pretty strong.
Keep up the good videos and I hope the best for your success with fishing and your business. Tight lines.
There's not a lot of documentation out there, and if you're interested in learning about cranking into the drag, this pro talks about it at 1:00 into his video about line twist. ua-cam.com/video/jbCMGSmAGs4/v-deo.html