Tucker takes on Cornel West over Democratic socialism
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2018
- Has Democratic socialism ever worked? DSA honorary chair Cornel West weighs in on 'Tucker Carlson Tonight.' #Tucker
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When Tucker Carlson is "listening" he looks like he has never heard a human language before.
Silly talk
Yeah and like he's constipated too
Thats because the man is true genius and hearing moronic wankers like gutter carlson is like hearing something for the 1st time.
You should listen and learn
Peter Harris reread his comment, dude.
Is this guy really an educated Harvard professor? He doesn't sound like one. He sounds scattered and a little ridiculous.
I don't agree with Mr West, but I will say that I love that every time I see him debate, he is pretty much universally calm and extremely respectful toward the people he disagrees with. We need more of that.
Billy
So you disagree with simple common decency.
@@johnlopperman2161 What? I disagree with his political opinions, not the fact that he's a nice guy. How did you misunderstand that badly?
@@billyb7119
West is calling for common human decency.
You disagree.
What do I misunderstand?
@@johnlopperman2161 You believe that socialism is just the most humane and moral thing to do, huh? That's... Fascinating.
@@billyb7119 Pay no attention to this person
This guys face, whenever anyone is speaking, apart from him, looks like he's watching his parents doing ungodly things.
I know bruh Tucker’s face is so funny 😂
@@vanstoizie4904 lmfao
That's anti-black and anti-parents doing ungodly things. I'm triggered!!
Ya you're right Cornel West looks exactly like that!
🤣🤣🤣 You so right about that Lol 🤣🤣
I respect that this was an actual conversation.
The reason I moved conservative is by looking at the difference between
conservatives going on liberal programs and liberals going on conservative programs
Never willingly hand over your money, property or liberty to someone else. You’ll notice in this discussion that socialism has never ever worked out for the common people, that being you and me. Free markets are a self correcting system where people can go where they are needed in society and prosper.
Look up the great reset and let me know if you trust these people to rule over you.
Bruh lmao this is not a conversation. Every time tucker had his argument dismantled he would move onto another failing argument instead of acknowledging that he was wrong. Tucker may have been talking, but he sure as hell wasn’t listening
only happens on the right
Mambao Momboa speaks race-ism 101
I liked this interview, especially when Tucker said "Well, I mean, if that's what Democratic Socialism is, then I'm basically onboard".
Honey catches more flies than vinegar.
@@ruthegan8524 no it doesn't honey isnt real. It's a plot buy the world government to control us.
@@undefined5083
I can't believe you actually believe the reich wing crap.
@@johnlopperman2161 ?
@@undefined5083
YOUR comments, that's 'what'.
love how Cornell refers to him as BROTHER.
@Oti Jeremiah I know. I just think is a cool thing.
But if he really likes you, he will call you comrade.
@@bravetherainbow he's a pretty popular public speaker many speeches and hours of talking, never once had he said this
Cornell West is a prefect BS artist phony as most on the LEFT are pretending to fight ofr justice, equality and environment...ALL TOTALL BS!
@@netforce0 never once has he said "comrade"? He says comrade in this video we're both commenting on. He calls AOC "my dear sister and comrade". And that's good, I support that.
Let's not forget that when Cornel West explained what his definition of the movement was Carlson said he was on board. I think we forget there's more in common than what divides but it is profitable to the elites to capitalize on division and discourage unity.
Yes
"I LOVE THE POORLY EDUCATED! " ~ DJ Trump, fired ex-prez of the USA.
no. Everyone is for those goals. But few are for a heavly centralized state. When the government control the economy or removes the profit motivate, society collapse.
@@bornfree8073 West is a libertarian socialist not an authoritarian socialist. State ownership is authoritarian, worker ownership is libertarian
@@abrahamlincoln5185 that's nonsense, dont fall for socialist bs
I love how Tucker asks a question and then answers it.
I thought I was the only one that noticed that
He thinks He slick but He is dealing with Professor.. He lately school him to the T
Tucker's facial expressions really are meme worthy, absolute classic, cracks me up every time.
@Jared Sterling Interesting analysis.
Tucker looks like Chef Jerome elroy from south park.
Yes very bizarre
Tucker Face! Hahaha!
He’s like 🧿👄👁
"they don' have toilet paper" This aged well
lol
We never had shortages. We had a bunch fools that were hoarding.
yeppers!
There were short lived shortages, but we have toilet paper again; Venezuela still doesn't have tp.
@@Tomorrison28 we referring to toilet paper or money? (Sarcasm)
I've never seen Tucker listen that much. He was on his good behavior I'd say
Just outclassed really.
He knows who he's talking to
Note the times that Cornel talks, and Tucker attempts to talk over him to move on to another talking point. Cornel doesn't stop talking. In interviews where tuck 'owns a lib', they let him interrupt and control the flow of the conversation. Thats when tucker is able to push his talking points and jump from topic to topic while swinging with punchlines.
Cornel very clearly came well prepared for this interview.
@@CjityJc No he didn't. Cornel West didn't even offer solutions to many of the problems associated with his views. He just said a bunch of crap that "sounds good," tickling the ears. Any intelligent person knows that this objective garbage won't work.
Back in the 50s and 60s when we had Democratic socialism. The rich paid their fair share. One income could support a whole family. Remember that!
Much better. This was before too easy access to credit.
And back then segregation also existed
It wasn’t Democratic socialism. Oligarchs still owned everything. The poor were still very poor, only in cities and suburbs did people have the stereotypical 50’s prosperity (although more people in the middle class were wealthier). Times were good for many because of unions, and worker protections that have since been gutted.
Are you from the U.K.?
@@jenniferhampton5171then bam Ronald Reagan messed it up
We already live in a welfare state- the problem is that money goes to bailing out the rich elites like the auto industries and banks instead of our most vulnerable and needy populations
Socialism for the wealthy, rugged individualism for the poor.
Don't forget the states who suck the most out of "the system" are somehow all deep red states.
And endless war
@@whyismynametaken123 So, New York City is deep red than? Every welfare city is deeply in debt and gets bailed out by the fed every couple years, and the debt only keeps rising. Mind checking your facts maybe?
@@ShiyaKohn Source? Everything I'm seeing says the opposite. New York state is a tax donor state (they give more than they recieve). The slight majority of NY's taxes come from NYC, and from what info I've gathered says that rural NY receives more than it gives. Which almost certainly means that NYC is a tax donor city. Do you have a reputable source that says otherwise?
Tucker: "Well if that's what democratic socialism is, then I'm basically on board"
Primovid, thank you for being able to cut through all of the divisive rhetoric and labels to recognize the collective common ground they were able to achieve in this communication effort by Mr. West and Mr. Carlson. As of 4/3/19 4:13pm, why am I the only person that has recognized and appreciated your observation? While I know there are those who prefer to be separated based on labels they choose to identify with, I also know that this is how we achieve unity for humankind. The willingness to listen, not hear (there is a difference) to those we may deem as the other, is how we make progress count me in for team humankind. Cmon everyone, Primovid"s observation should be at the top of replies and remain there for this video. Yes, we have some complicated and complex issues however America has always been great and the humility (not weakness) exemplified in this video is why.
@Jack London California? The home of most tech giants that drive up real estate prices wherever they are. California is just another state that embraces the most horrible parts of capitalism.
Thats why tucker is doing so good now. Hes able to find common ground and reasonable understanding through conversation and isnt afraid to change his ideas about things if he is wrong. Dr. Cornel west and tucker talking was actually very nice to listen too. Both of them arent intrenched in there political bunkers and genuinly want whats good for america and its people
tothebestinyou - he said that as sarcasm. Socialism can only work in a small community. IF you unleash it at a wide scale, you will invite tyranny and famine. It’s an idealistic goal, but cannot be reached on earth. Many will suffer. Are we willing to risk economic collapse for a day dream?
@@HippieSkippy100 .... which is why all democracies have adopted hybrid systems, socialism and capitalism. The key is creating the best balance of that system until we evolve. Even that system is not perfect.
We have hybrids because capitalism leads to slavery due to greed. Socialism fits our best instincts of community but a sociopath can exploit that system as well. The hybrid results in a check and balance. Democratic Socialism is the best of that balance until humanity can leave our petty animal nature behind.
These guys actually have respect for each other it was good to see
I don't respect people who know better but lie like Carlson. Use Denmark, Finland or Norway!! Geez.
Like a child debating a teacher, Dr West is too articulate
What? He is the very definition of a non sequitur. He just talks fast and uses buzz words and metaphors. Word salad with no continuity
@@FireinTheBowl he’s a professor and you aren’t, you can’t be speaking here
@@FireinTheBowl I agree
@@dani3117 he is no longer a Proffesor. There's a reason
@@FireinTheBowl i’m sorry you can’t comprehend english and basic american history (albeit the latter isn’t taught in school much”
Cornell is perfect example of how to interact with the Right in a meaningful non-offensive manner
LOL not really as soon as he said comrade I lost all respect for him
@@TJHTouring used by soviet revolutionaries to refer to each other, therefore incredibly offensive to anyone who has family who lived behind the iron curtain
@@TJHTouring lol are you honestly arguing the use of the word comrade is not a reference to soviet style communism or are you just trolling?
@@TJHTouring when used by an American who is known to be on the far left such as Cornel West, how could I not assume he is a communist?
He's a very respectful crazy person
The DSA is much further left than Bernie Sanders. Just saying.
BJ McDonald and they’ll just equate it because they really don’t get the leftist spectrum at all
Agreed
I wouldn't be so sure about that, Bernie is about as commie as the DSA.
In an interview with the Burlington Free Press in 1976, he said, "I favor the public ownership of utilities, banks and major industries," He hasn't changed, We all know he wants to nationalize healthcare and take away your consumer sovereignty, no private healthcare and insurance in Bernieland, He even advocated "public ownership of the drug companies and placing doctors on salaries.", the natural goal of M4A.
You see he's pro-slavery too, Masta Bernie wants to force doctors and I supposed all healthcare personnel to be salaried slaves to the state, no choice I guess, I can only assume he would advocate sending criminalised doctors who would dare to operate in the free market and service patients to gulags or something.
@WinterXL You're comparing doctors to police officers? That's f'ing dumb.
Didn't you know there are private law enforcement services, security agencies, detective agencies, company police etc...?
Maybe Bernie would like to outlaw them too and nationalize them into his American Stasi?
"there is no state in communism" Ya I know, the state will melt away and the workers paradise will be rainbows and unicorns. HAHAHAHHAHA! Whatever clown. Then how come there has never been a communist country with no state but always a communist state with the boot on the necks of the people? Hmmm...
But...but...Democratic socialism! DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM!
I enjoy how they bring up Cuba or Venezuela…you mean countries we are sanctioning ?
and forcing all other countries in the World Trade Organization to recognize the embargo
"One thing you learn when you grow up in a castle and look out across the moat every day at the hungry peasants is you don't wanna stoke envy among the proletariat" - tucker carlson
Goddammit, give them 80 minutes. That had serious potential for an awesome argument.
cannabased I honestly wish that went on far longer. It seemed genuinely honest from both sides. I don’t live in the United States, but I find Tucker absolutely hilarious (not in a negative way). Once in a while, he has a great conversation with somebody and it gets cut off just as it starts getting interesting.
cannabased Will do. Cheers.
Tucker just disregarded morality for 10 minutes in an attempt to make Americans feel scared and like they are better for having been born here.
Not really. Tucker doesn't debate as much as he lies and twists the truth to try and catch his opponent off guard
Sean Devine
What do socialists know about Truth?
He should interview Bernie if he wants to know what Bernie thinks
Bernie , AOC , the squad would never come on tucker’s show , he us way to smart for those idiots
@@kham6006 Whew - it's a good thing you aren't calling yourself smart when you're incapable of forming a coherent sentence.
Friendly Wobbly yeah your a real genius ,,this isn’t a grammar contest , it’s a UA-cam comment section ,, you look real smart ,,lol
Is that all you got
I'm sure Carlson would be more than willing to have Sanders on his show.
You think Bernie would talk to Tucker? So, in your rainbow colored, liberal fantasy world it is Tucker who refuses to speak to Bernie and NOT the other way around? Wow, I never thought such a large swath of my fellow Americans could get reality so backwards. And then you morons speak!
Why not just say "prison reform", rather than saying abolish prisons?
This is their first step, they use words that sound pretty & useful, then when they are in power, reveal their true intentions.
I'm not a big fan of Dems, but if you think a single elected Dem wants to abolish prisons you're living on Neptune.
im pretty sure he said he disagreed with abolition and believes in disagreement so idk
This guy literally looks like the black "Karl Marx"
I like the way Dr. West and Tuker handled the debate. Regardless of their diverged viewpoints they treated each one with respect and toleration. Something, it found halarious was the look that tucker has given to West.
Dr.West while very like-able and lovable can sometimes endorse the wrong movements, he may end up on the wrong side of history if there is ever a severe backlash to the the liberal agenda.
These two are way closer opinion wise than you'd imagine
Conservative American: Single Payer healthcare will take away our choices for insurance.
Employer: You will take the insurance we provide for you
Conservatives: I'm happy with the insurance I have
Employer: You're fired.
@@ThommyKane Democrats: this socialist healthcare system system sucks I had better insurance from my employer
Government: too bad
Explain to me how an employer based insurance can even remotely be better than free? Wow you are dumb 😂
@@shawnaning101 If you have better insurance than would be provided under Bernie's plan, you're in a very privileged minority indeed.
Your employer pays part of your health insurance cost, once you reach middle age you can’t afford your health insurance. Remember insurance company don’t make money by paying for your healthcare, they make money by denying you healthcare.
Cornel West reminds me of Fredrick Douglas. Wonder of he did that on purpose. Very nice to hear a civil discussion even with different viewpoints.
I don't agree with many things Carlson believes, still respect to him. He does good work.
@Jeff - LOL! Your sarcasm is brilliant.
Yes, Cucker is a world class propagandist for the greedy class.
If you haven't heard it already, I highly recommend listening to Joe Rogan's interview of Cornel West.
Kurt Christensen lol. Rogan is a loser. socialism is communism
@@tiger05rtc Rogan isn't a loser he's just very calm, laid back and open minded, he's a great interviewer
@@tiger05rtc The guy is literally one of the hardest workers out there right now. I feel like all people who think this way get their news from one source. I'm sure you also think Fox News is impartial? Maybe you all should read some news articles from other news sources. Puppets on strings!
Jacob Langham lol 😂 fox ? No anything on tv is government propaganda. Jo Rogan is also an agent for the government, he questions nothing anymore, sellout
Jacob Langham most people in America don’t know the real socialism and communism. You have to ask yourself why do hundreds of thousands people ran from them to go to America. This is what I don’t get about these American and their ideas. Equal opportunities is the best thing in America, not equal outcomes. Even though it sounded good on paper but these communist/socialist country have the worse income inequality.
This was actually quite civil and informative. Thank you.
Especially at the end when they cut Cornel
@@mikkaz3975 Your "boy", Tucker "no kinda libertarian" Carlson is an imbecile!
I haven’t seen the Democrats this upset since we took the slaves away from them
@@senilejoe7932 A rather useless comment, wouldn't you say, Jerr?
I think it’s a great comment Vinny
So, if you disagree with someone, you call them silly and fail to let them respond to your characterization?
Have him spend a year in prison and see how human some people are
Treat people like animals and they’ll act like animals
This was a weirdly respectful and well done Fox interview... has hell frozen over?
Tucker tends to do that. He'll invite people whom he disagrees with and give them a platform, even if he is critical of their views he at least lets them speak.
I am a liberal but on the whole I submit that Fox is marginally better than CNN and MSNBC, with Carlson, Chris Wallace and Judge Napalitano all standouts.
@@benselectionforcasting4172 Until he gets called out for being funded by billionares, then he will call you a moron and delete the footage.
Tucker has become rather objective lately. Am I sensing John Stossel's influence?
Koopy Sandwich bruh I love your picture but it also makes me sad because I miss zaibatsu
I freaking love Cornell West
🔥🔥🖤🖤🔥🔥
Natorrie Lee: Same here! Cornell West is a hero of mine
He's a nutsack.
Bringing in more thousands of people who are in poverty cannot possibly help the situation for poor people! It just expounds poverty!
That's how your country was born. Millions of immigrants came to the United States during the 18th, 19th and 20th century, from all over the World but suddenly now it's bad? Do you think Irish or German immigrants that came to the U.S. in the 1890s, 1900s, 1910s and 1920s had money? No! They brought more poverty as well. But oh, they were white.
Thank you Cornel West!
For what?
Tuckers face when hes talking makes me crack tf up 😂😂
All that is lacking is drool xD
I enjoy listening to the professor. There are alot of things that could be changed in the prison system. I agree. There's so much that could be done. The professors attitude and knowledge is inspiring.
Dr.West while very like-able and lovable can sometimes endorse the wrong movements, he may end up on the wrong side of history if there is ever a severe backlash to the the liberal agenda.
I missed like everything cornel said the first time around just watching tuckers absolutely just unexplainable face
cracked ...me...UP?!!
3:35 Tucker says something that momentarily gives me hope for this country.
"Brotha" i love it when he says that
They say "brotha" as they help themselves to your hard earned money in your wallet
@@tapasyatyaga4041 ok
If Tucker called him Brotha, therd be an outcry of “racial expropriation “...or arrogant white privlage in assuming he (Tucker) is “allowed” to equate himeslf with all the suffering, years of slavery abuse Mr. West has endured.
Tapasya Tyaga incel
@@joeminor6314 we're all brothers regardless of color.
I like watching videos where people disagree respectfully. Dr. Cornel West did an excellent job describing Democratic Socialism and I appreciate Tucker letting him answer the questions instead of cutting him off like some interviewers do.
He did cut him off. Did you not watch the video? Carlson started sneering at him and cut him off, as he does to anyone who does not agree with him.
Yes I watched the whole video lol. I also did it from an OBJECTIVE point of view. This wasn’t an interview where the host had unlimited time to let the guest answer the questions, so yes Tucker may have cut Dr. West off, but not in a rude or malicious way.
Poor Tucker, having to interview a special person because fox said so... You can tell this guy hasn't thought about anything he is talking about with long term consequences...
You are right, I bet the management virtually ordered Tucker to have this idiot on the air. West's whole Schtick is to make it look like the whole world is an idiot except for him... You can bet if the US becomes Socialist like Venezuela, this guy will never accept an ounce of responsibility for the failure that would ensue. He is the typical mouth that will never ever shut up, just like Bernie Saunders.
Dude has degrees from both Harvard and Princeton, at both of which, in addition to Yale and Dartmouth, he's had professorships and fellowships. He has taught classes in related subjects, has written books (with extensive research) on related topics, etc... But I guess that doesn't qualify one in the way being an heir to the Swanson fortune does, eh?
When someone who knows more about a topic than you do speaks on that topic, them disagreeing with you doesn't necessarily suggest *they're* an idiot
@@alarimbaud3155 I don't care if he's givin it to your mother flap head. Worry about Muslamic Canadian stuff cupcake.
@@alarimbaud3155 A person with that many degrees doesn’t sound like a stoner at Woodstock. Now I believe what I’ve been hearing about Harvard, etc. 😅
Mr. West respectfully refers to others as BROTHER or My DEAR SISTER in his conversations no matter your race/skin color.
I love how Tucker frames his position around points that I've never really heard expressed by Bernie - closing prisons, free and completely open boarders?? In all the hundreds of interviews I have seen, I have never heard Bernie expresss those positions - Bernie is probably shaking his head right now listening to this.
@Matt Houser exactly
Trust me. Bernie doesn't listen to tucker. Bernie is a busy guy.
Bernie does support open borders actually
@@maldose1227 no he does not. He should tho
@@albertoramirez7198 Open borders is a capitalist scheme for low wages disguised as "anti-racist" babble.
It looks and sounds like Tucker got great respect for Cornel West’s intelligence.
Fox HR department will give him a reprimand, and show him how small his paycheck is compared to Hannity.
Really, seems like the opposite to me
@Usuário Sarcástico I know when Tucker is being sarcastic . The look on his face tells you if he really respects you or not.
@Usuário Sarcástico when Tucker said “ If that’s what democratic socialism is then I am basically on board” , he meant it.
@@astogameplay explain. It was very civil convo.
as someone genuinely trying to learn what democratic socialism is, I fail to understand any of the points that Cornel is saying. It just seems like 'it's better', no specifics
Democratic socialism would do two main things; give control of the economy to the working class, while also having a democratically run government/political system.
@@calvin8370 but like... how? Again, and no offence, your answer is just as vague. Like I know Bernie is a democratic socialist and he wants to make university paid entirely through taxes. Government paid university at least is a concrete, visualizable example, and at least we can sit down and talk about it. I can't discuss or truly understand something like 'better working class'.
He's talking more about human rights. Rather than socialism, and it stands for.
I was trying to point out how socialist, Communist, marxist and so on.
Hide behind equality.
When you'll actually lose your freedom and independence.
Credit to both of them for conducting a civilized discourse even though their perspectives differ. Good example of what America needs these days.
Yeah, and they both made good points.
@Michael Hampton I respectfully disagree Michael. We seem to have to pick sides or assign labels these days to people with different viewpoints. It is the loud, unlistening voices on any side of the debate that are not welcoming of open discussion. The irony is that these people, being close-minded and given to some form of zealotry, often have more in common with their targeted opponents "on the other side" than they do with those whom they perceive to be with them. A bigoted liberal with a closed mind will be likely to take up a vociferous debate with a more open-minded liberal where their perspectives differ; same thing goes for a conservative. Viewpoints form a spectrum, and there are as many different opinions within a team as there are between teams. Just because you may play for the Cowboys while I play for the Giants, or you work for Microsoft while I work for Google, or you vote Republican and I vote Democratic does not mean that you agree with all Cowboy players, Microsoft colleagues, or Republican voters. Conflict exists everywhere, which is why - and I absolutely agree with your core point here - that open discussion is what is needed. In this light, I am grateful for your comment.
Agreed!
Oh gosh, you're really setting the bar high
No, only Cornlell did that. Tucker said that he is "silly".
Cornel west seems like a good man. I may not agree with him but it seems like he has a good heart.
He's a very intellectual man, he has books for years the man is learned. You may not agree with him but he is no fool, I suggest you read up on him. What he's saying isn't inherently wrong by any means and it may change your viewpoint. I mean better living for all, amirite?
Better living for all is what everyone should strive for. But it should come at the cost of someone's life they've built up over years. I believe we all have the moral obligations to help the poor and take care of the planet. However the government shouldn't force us to do so. It makes the rich greedier and the poor lazy.
@@Meatsquatch69420
" I believe we all have the moral obligations to help the poor and take care of the planet. However the government shouldn't force us to do so."
Which is a nice way of saying that the real problem with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money, lol
@@kainnosgoth7336 I agree. Just trying to say it in a non abrasive way. :)
@@Meatsquatch69420 I appreciate your efforts to be non-abrasive and I agree that the government should NOT force us to do so. Well said :-)
However,
we have ENOUGH poor and starving here
in the U.S., and it would appear that the government has always tried to force us to make a choice-take care of the world and let America suffer (and get marks for being selfless), or allow America to come first and look like racists for letting everyone else swing. When is it a crime (or racist) to care for your country first?
Dr. West needs to listen to Dr Richard Wolff about how socialism has worked in northern Spain factories for many years.
"but they don't have toilet paper" 🤣
Seeing this after the Pandemic is even more funny
'We're like a jazz 🎺 orchestra.' 😂
Love how near the end when he is asked "My dear brother, if we had this discussion a 100 years ago...." LOL. Get in Prof
Yea, I’m disappointed in that long winded answer
@@r_m6074 Cornel is immensely polite. Tukkker pretty much exists on the MSM portfolio to smear the anti-war cause by being its official outlet (while UA-cam demonetizes the actual leftist outlets finding and breaking the facts).
My grandparents came here legally when immigration was open and quotas were increased....they were GIVEN NOTHING at ALL from the government...they had to have a job waiting for them, a sponsor or family member in the USA already.....and they did not walk around speaking Italian in public as their first language for the rest of their lives...they and their fellow countrymen assimilated their families into American society/culture.
Dr West has a twisted vision for the future of this country....in fact it’s NO future at all, with the United States essentially shouldering the burden of other failing cultures and peoples.....
If Brother West wants to get real real, he should find the descendants of the African Cheifs that conquered, imprisoned and then SOLD their Brothers and Sisters to foreigners....go lay your guilt trip on them and ask them for reparations
@@michaelbonade4667 well that was a different simpler time, when we didn't want Italians immigrating to this country. But that's why we happily voted to MAGA.
@@michaelbonade4667 well said. To compare immigrants from 100 years ago to illegal immigrants today is absurd. Your families response to the gift of being an American, is what help create this beautiful melting pot we call USA. Lack of assimilation, distain for the true citizens of the US and the belief of commiting the crime of illegally entering the US is their god given right; that is what is destroying the melting pot.
Want to help people in other countries but cant help the homeless man that you drove pass this morning.
i lost it when Cornell called himself Baptist, Tuckers eyes tell it all
Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Norway rank higher on every metric than the US. They are social democracies.
They also have strict immigration policies
And? You're an idiot if you compare those countries to the US in any way. Period.
Monty A actually Sweden and Denmark aren't social democracies.
And they are constantly at ends with the immigrants
Nope! Sorry! Not sew!
Dr. Cornel West🔥🥰
@Dander Spat he's more intelligent than you'll ever be.
@Dander Spat Harvard University Magnum cum laude, irrespective of politics recognise ability (incidentally Obama made law review at Harvard) give respect where its due.
@@nigwelwhi ur right there with him. Ur comment on what niklas said is way off topic unless u read something different than I see?
Cornell West is Intelligent, and humble. Love him!
@@nigwelwhi “The road to hell is paved with Ivy League degrees” - Thomas Sowell.
West is brilliant. He gave a great synopsis of DS.
tucker destroyed on his own show, how sad is that!
No Cornel West did not answer his question. East Germany and Late Yugoslavia Socialism/ Communist
functioned!
Lorenzo Medina bruh humans can’t stop blowing each other up because they disagree or they want land you really think that in the past 1000 yrs of human civilization we would be able to create a stateless classless society. We should move in that direction with baby steps tho. Who knows we might have to go full in if technology gets better at the rate it’s getting now. I don’t know if robot technicians are going support jobs for 7 billion people. Might be forced into socialism my guy.
Not at all true.
“WE THE PEOPLE “ is self explanatory, socialism is about we the people.
The constitution doesn’t say:
“WE THE ENTREPRENEURS
EXCELLENT POINT LA IGLESIA EN TU CASA!..SPEAK ON IT BROTHER CORNEL!..YOUR THE MAN!.. I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT "FDR" WAS A DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST!..AWESOME! AND EINSTEIN TOO!
We the people, as a nation, as a whole, with individual liberties and rights... socialists should have a 1 month trip to Venezuela, with no money! See how that works!... bunch of morons!..
@@gringox0212 I know, I know!
First, we vote on making the following plan (so that it is democratic). Then we should tax all the democratic socialists (wealth redistribution), then force them to accept a free one-way ticket (from the funds of said wealth distribution) to Venezuela. They must stay long enough to benefit from the Venezuelan social programs to gain the benefits of said form of government. (Remember, they are now immigrants! So they have rights!) They obviously would flourish from the Socialist government and their programs! Then tell them to demand a ticket, from the Venezuelan Socialist government, back to the United States (because they have a right to that ticket)! Then they can come back to us and tell us how well they did on their trip. Then we can vote on it!!!!!! What do you think!!!!!!!?????!
Oh, oh! I know! We send some of them on this trip with a really cool nasty illness. That way they can go through the state-run-social-medical system! THEN they can return and report. THEN we can vote on it!!!!
So! What do you think!
@@born2bbald12 you lost 3 hairs on that!.
@@gringox0212 Explain yourself! I think it's a brilliant plan! I voted o nit so it's okay!
Well said Dr West wish everyone would respect one another and stay calm during a debate
Tucker said "that's silly". Seems like Tucker could learn.
Well said? Did you say, 'well said'? What did he say?
I met him once years ago - he’s just as down to earth and solid in person
@@JohnSmith-hs1hn Silly seems pretty tame.
He was asked how letting millions of poor people into our country will benefit the poor US citizens, his response is to compare our world and economy to a hundred years ago.
Germany is democratic socialist. The country functions, 4th largest GDP in the world. Capitalism is rampant here though as well. so the workings are pretty much the same, it’s not that different really.
As a African American my German counterpart seem too have a better standard of life. Is it the moral or the irony I'm having trouble grasping.
Such a disingenuous take. Tucker knows that that Denmark or the Netherlands is closer to democratic socialism than Venezuela
Buuulllcrap.... The President of Denmark flat says they aren't a Socialist nation.
Those countries struggle with same socialistic problems, free healthcare leads to less & less innovations in medicine, and free school just leads to students staying students forever just to get free stuff
I'm from Australia and some of our socialist policies are pretty good. Well medicare is good (for citizens), but i think if your on visa its still expensive...
HOWEVER............ our taxes are extreme though. 32% of my pay goes out to the taxman and i make under 50k a year... i get some back at tax return but not nearly enough.
If you earn 180k you get taxed almost HALF!!! Why would anyone be incentivised to work hard??? Even with our taxes, I still pay thousands in tolls and private health every year.
The public health waiting list for non life threatening surgery is ridiculous... Life's not all bad, I do enjoy Australia but geez Louise i wish our taxes would drop a little. Our Gov are baffoons with the budget anyway, they sold our electricity and water to china (nsw).
I do believe in capitalism... That's why i get up for work early, that's why I grind. I dream of being wealthy, without government handouts... If we can keep our socialist standards to just the backbone necessities, socialism is okay.
No, Denmark and the Netherlands are not closer to Democratic Socialism -- a term used to obfuscate the true goal... Socialism. In a similar manner, Hugo Chavez added 'Twenty First Century' as an adjective to qualify and differentiate his flavor of socialism... but it turned out to be plain old socialism.
I live in Denmark one month out of the year. (I'm married to a Dane)...I can assure you, and their government would affirm, they are by no means socialist. Not to mention, many of their social programs are failing and they're actively moving to privatization.
I don’t understand why Cornell doesn’t bring up Norway, Denmark, the Netherlands, Finland, Sweden, iceland, Switzerland, etc. those are democratic socialist countries
Because it does not fit the narrative.
Imagination Super Show how?
Possibly because they praise capitalism
Norway is NOT sustainable - the Scandinavian model is a fraud, btw I am Norwegian. Ask any economist from those countries.
Those are also a lot more homogenized racially/culturally, and are incredibly small countries comparatively.
I am hear for Dr. Cornel West and as always he didn't disappoint.
Yeah he really didn't say much of anything to me.
It is so despicable that Tucker did not address him as Dr. West in the introduction. I am glad that he got exposed by Dr. West in his own show! But the way, this is a man with an education/discipline level that Tucker would never be able to achieve in his entire life. No wonder that he will ever have Dr. West on again. Shame on you Tucker!
I like the big "SOCIALIST DEMS" headline in the background, even tho Cornel West is part of the DSA and not affiliated with the democratic party in any way.
gotta get that clickbait
Weiss
The ''Democratic Party Establishment is hardly ''democratic'' in factual terms, rather a right wing just a bit less fascist than the originals. Together they paved way for trump.
The dsa is a pseudo radical wing of the democratic party
@@roberthoffenheim7861 It's not tho, it's an organization with an accompanying political party that (very rarely, because third parties are like de facto illegal in most case in the U.S.) runs on its own and sometimes its members run in dem primaries (and sometimes wins) because they can, the organization is not part of the democratic party, it's just that some DSA members use dem party infrastructure for electoral benefit
@@weissfox5857 Functionality they are exactly that. They field democrats, are a part of the Democratic Party political network and routinely denigrate real socialism as described by Marx and Engels. They repeatedly and deliberately confuse social democracy with democratic socialism and try to push a mixed economy policy in the name of democratic socialism.
Tuk always look like a dog that hears a fart
Steven Wolfe lmao so right
Carlson acts so innocent and stupid lol
lololololol foreall
Stupid comment from an obviously stupid person.
OMG that's the perfect way to put it, I'm using this line now
Even if I agree that democratic socialism is bad (I don't....), no one can say that capitalism has worked in the ways people believe it has.
I’ve spent time on these democratic and conservative channels and i must say, at what point do people realize that they should focus on what they agree on? Both parties have ideologies that are spewed as being absolute when really they should be malleable, critique shouldn’t confused with opposition, but rather it should be welcomed. Humility seems to go a long way in most of these conversations and i refuse to believe that even as a collective any party can present an ideal proposition that makes peoples lives easier, merits on both sides should be considered above all else. Most of these modern day intellects can only provide so much insight into the human experience and how to better it without treading the other side of the fence. The grass isn’t always greener on the other side, but I’m sure some of it is.
Kudos to both for a surprisingly respectful conversation.
I just wish Tucker had addressed him as Dr. West instead of just Cornel.
Here’s a quote from Neil deGrasse Tyson that may explain...”One of the great challenges in life is knowing enough to think you're right but not enough to know you're wrong”.
lol isn’t that like picking selective information just enough to where you can still lie to yourself so you don’t have to switch your ideas.
thats a dumb quote
Degrasse Tyson is a shill
ralphyns looks like you’ve failed the challenge presented.
brandon netzley that’s not a challenge it’s called confirmation bias I’m not gonna try to know less just to think I’m right lol what a stupid challenge
this is what the world needs, a civil dialogue
Tucker has to talk over this guy and cut him off cause he's afraid he may make a valid point!
A valid point for socialism? Is that even possible?
Speaking as a Canadian citizen, I want to maintain our national identity. Erasing the border between our two nations is not conducive to that. We do not want to give up our sovereignty nor be part of the USA (although we're still friends).
Neil Steenson
Trust me, I wouldn't want to be friends to the US either right now. Give Mueller time, it'll be over soon then we'll stop be the laughing joke of the world....
Mrwhale99 wrong
C C
I don't watch fox....
The open borders people never explain how letting anyone that wants to come in will be paid for. They never volunteer to take them into their own homes. They are great at earmarking other peoples' money for spending.
@@teeyske I knew that it wouldn't workout like that. He fired comey and replaced him...
Am I the only one who finds it suspicious that the tweet had no likes or anything
Eh...even socialists know that list is some perverted fantasy. No prisons, no borders and no profits. Individually, those three alone make almost no sense, but together they make ZERO sense.
Monday206am can you explain what you’re saying ?
Lyricist Productions yep. Fake twitter acct made up by the producers
Dr West is instant demonitization for some reason
true true true
😂😂Conel West's honesty and integrity wins the argument everytime! Tucker wasnt ready
Peep game... Why would an overworked, underpaid, economically frustrated person comit a crime? Answer that question and possibly we could move onto actually shrinking profit prisons.
I regret that I so quickly reacted to Cornel West’ ideas that I was opposed to. I truly believe in a meritocracy, where everyone has the opportunity to contribute and excel. I am against any system that allows those who could, and should, contribute to live off those who do contribute and excel. I am for basic dignity for everyone with a system that allows for that. I believe that everyone should have the opportunity to do well economically if they work hard and have good ideas. Dr. West is basically a very good man. We differ on how America should go forward to attain an egalitarian system without the power systems that currently exist. His love of the arts is an area that Dr. West and I are in sync - I love the arts and the artists. Dr. West has an unusually clear lens to view the world. I think I could learn a lot from him.
Sounds to me like you're describing America, exactly as it was envisioned to be.
JOHN DRUMHELLER sounds very nice and all but when has a system of meritocracy ever worked?
@@niklasgruneke7164 Do I detect cynicism here? ["Meritocracy is a social system in which success and status in life depend primarily on individual talents, abilities, and effort. It is a social system in which people advance on the basis of their merits."] That concept is sound. Are you dismissing it because no system is perfect? If you do I have to wonder if you are a cynic. As I say the Principle is sound. Advancing it is a good thing, no matter the vehicle (system). If you can't place a reasonable amount of faith in that then what is the point of working??? I agree with Mr Drumheller's comments on meritocracy. Explain why you would oppose the principle. I would be interested in hearing an explanation.
BaldOldMan right on the money - the principle is great but America is using it as a facade to encourage people to put in the effort expecting some great reward, also referred to as the American dream. The fact of the matter is that success is not dependent on the merits of your work but rather on your propositioned standing in society. The concept of a social democracy (or democratic socialism as referred to by sanders) is trying to get people to the same starting point so that everybody has the chance to be successful based on what they put on. I respect the conversation but clearly a vast majority of Americans are not educated enough to understand these concepts. This is not to slam these people but to point out that education has failed them overall. This is a feature not a bug in the system - on some level we can have a discussion if critical thinking serves a country well or not - granted America has one of the least critical and uneducated populations in the western world. Nevertheless the absence of information and knowledge does not mean that people aren’t happy. What you have nowadays are a lot of people that live in this country with this access to knowledge that are extremely unsatisfied. On the other hand you have people that are uneducated but very happy with their modest life. There’s no right or wrong - bad or evil here. It’s all about perspectives
@@niklasgruneke7164 The kleptocrats made it impossible for the system to be fair.
The word socialism and related terms have basically lost all meaning in practical political discourse. So it is ultimately up to us to determine what it means, based on who is using it and the policies they are supporting.
It's evil and destructive no matter who's using it. The policies are greed.
@@franssusan Greed? That is capitalism. What kind of troll are you?
@@franssusan You literally didn't even bother reading John's comment properly, did you? You're just proving his point with that canned retort.
@EVERSONG, you need to wake up! You're not thinking for yourself but parroting liberal talking points. Socialism is evil and there's no such thing as democratic socialism. Medicare is an evil Ponzi scheme, medicaid is socialist, public education has failed because of government control---they are all bloated, inefficient government programs that are full of graft and scams. Grow up.
The term "Socialism" is not always well understood. Essentially, ["Socialism is a political, social and economic philosophy encompassing a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership of the means of production and workers' self-management of enterprises." -Wikipedia]. My greatest concern is "social ownership". Essentially, social ownership eventually deteriorates the concept of private property and freedom. It may sound attractive from an academic point-of-view (as a theory) but its full application is devastating. Aside from threatening private property and freedom, it drains motivation and ingenuity from its followers. History shows this. Remember the USSR (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) tried this system in different flavors. Marxism (the source of Socialism/Communism), Lennism, Stalinism etc. were cries against capitalism and social class. I can understand where Marx and Engels were coming from (I don't agree with them) but their utopian philosophy was (is) flawed. In order for Socialism to work (despite what some would say) a certain amount of coercion (state authority gone mad) must be used. Check history. Name a country (comparable to the U.S.) that has gotten Socialism to work for longer than our country's form of government. The USSR tried it for almost 80 years...it didn't work. (Where is the USSR now???) Why don't we have Russian made cars sold in the U.S.? We trade with Japan, Germany, South Korea, etc. Why not Russia if socialism/communism is such a great social model???
I agree (kinda) with John's comment "The word socialism and related terms have basically lost all meaning in practical political discourse." However, if he is promoting Socialism (in any form) then I have a serious disagreement with him. Under "Socialism" in Wikipedia there are MANY forms of "socialism". In principle, that form of government, in my opinion, is unhealthy to the human spirit.
Tucker is an intellectual lightweight who gets by on his quickness, rhetorical skills, and control of the segment, but here he met a true intellectual with even greater rhetorical skills! Excellent job, professor West.
I don't think people that doesn't deserves things should get them any way. People that work for a good life deserves it.
Not a bad interview though Tucker definitely tried to "make fun of" west's points. Republicans know EXACTLY what Bernie is fighting for and are trying to skew his ideals in our faces like we can't read or understand for ourselves lol
Also Tucker has THEE worst laugh.
This guy is a professor at Princeton University. God help us.
The result of the abandonment of STANDARDS to allow for the inclusion of Africans. NOT WORTH IT. Deport them ALL.
affirmative action at its best
I saw a documentary on Venezuela that a rich man left his house to travel and about six months the government took his house because have to always occupy residentency. The maintenance of your house is irrelevant in keeping the government form owning your house. This documentary was under Socialism in this country a old telecast. Dr. West great interview.
very respectful, i love this man, God bless
8:30 Tucker totally breaks. Deep down he loves West
It is very possible to love someone, and also realize that they are deluding themselves.
It happens every day; my older brother is currently married to a cult-member and it sucks.
Of course he does. Brilliant minds think alike
West makes a great point that undermines a good 75% of what I've seen on these Tucker clips: because one Democratic socialist thinks something, it doesn't mean they all do. one of Carlson's main techniques is to point out the idiocy of certain Democrats, and then paint all Democrats as idiots. West blows that away, but it certainly won't change Carlson's future segments, of course.
dulpurp I really can't believe all of this immigrant slander and fear mongering is still being put on television. It's a verbal embodiment of xenophobic and birtherist thought.
utewbing CNN ain't news, definitely less propagative than fox tho.
Well the democratic party doesn't do that. Right??? Or leftist comedians like Stewart. He would not paint Republicans as so and so.
Matt White Tacoma, WA. 56th street.
Matt White Your comment comes from someone who's privileged enough to have never suffered through poverty or seen the damage it causes to communities. Good for you man.
Cornel West. One of my favourite scholars. Wisdom and knowledge oozes out of his mouth.
Are you kidding me?
WORD!! CORNEL WEST FOR PRESIDENT!!! Excellent and appropriate replies to Tuckers dumb questions!!
Cornel West is a brilliant man
Aka, The "Professor" of Platitides? If you say so kid.
@@boneheaded9751 everything had substance in his answers. What was a platitude? Did you not understand what he was saying
Not politically for sure
Hahahahahahaha! Not regarding politics! Perhaps in the arts.
West didn’t answer a single question , he ducked , weaved , and filibustered through the whole segment.
CJ -NYC so you're really dum
Linda Harris it’s “d- u-m-b-“
cannabased It took you a whole year to respond and that’s the best you can come up with. (Telling me that intentionally misspelling a word is ironic or clever ). Put the weed down , it’s exacerbating your Trump derangement syndrome.
Give me an example where he ducked and weaved a question? Seemed like his answers were all very thought out.
@@cj-nyc2057 What makes you think it took him a year? Do you think he read your comment the day you posted it? More than likely he, like myself, came across it some time later, and wrote the response at that point.
Plus, even if it took him a year, does that invalidate his point? It may take me a year to realize 2+2=4... According to you, the answer of 4 couldn't be correct because it took a year to think of it. I'm just confused by your approach here.
I agreed with both of them on different topics. This was a great conversation.
I appreciate that this guy is at least willing to talk but he has sadly been misled. He intones faith but fails to remember that the word of God is that He views life as a precious gift and that if you intentionally take the life of another, the price you pay is your life.
Not high enough for that....
Too short. Shoulda been 45 mins
Tucker got me double takin' with his suspiciously civil dialogue with my man Dr. West. Props where props are due but, boy, I got my eye on you 👀
Tucker tries to explain to him, but it didn’t work.
People that came here 100 years ago where happy to be Americans that’s the difference
Bottom line, higher taxes for the taxpayers. 💰