Kaloyan Stoyanov. Actually it's people like him that are race-baiters in America. He's a professor and his one job is to talk about race therefore he has to keep saying racist problem and get black people who are very emotional people anyway all riled up about it. We should end such courses and throw people like him out of a job
@@achemedqureshi458You have to appreciate what he is doing and what he is saying. Parrhesia is to speak truth to power. This is an example of what parrhesia looks like. West is using his right to speech to raise issues about race, class, gender, and power. If you listen to what he is saying you would understand his words.
He draws from everything and everyone in creating a philosophical outlook that has no definite form, takes no position on anything, and can’t seem to make a clear and precise statement as to what he actually stands for.
This is why Dr. Cornel West is the greatest intellectual in the world today without question. Excellent speech and indictment of the plutocratic governments of the UK and the U.S.
Seeing the young people clapping with such enthusiasm tells me there's still hope in the future. They will one day pick up the mantle and help create a more just society. Awesome speech, I must have listened to it over 10 times.
Exactly, the solution is a deep cleansing of the corruption, greed and excess that has caused the current situation. Holding the perpetrators truly accountable is essential. The establishment has too much to lose by letting this happen, but we have nothing to lose by losing the established establishment.
It's amazing how everything Mr. West talks about is clear as crystal. His words make sense in today's world, amazing what a pandemic crisis can do to a simpleton like myself. Thnk Cornel West for speaking truth to power
Will Mcloughlin I think he’s more like a tenured professor at Harvard, Princeton, and Yale.... and has more research to back him than any of the propaganda you’ve been led to believe. The truth hurts, that’s why when he speaks people have a knee jerk reaction to him.
Cornell West is brilliant and speaks the truth! He is most inspiring speaker I have ever heard, on a par with Dr. King - his voice goes right through you!
He is vivacious and integral for the young people. He is not dangerous but,mendacious for oligarchs. Simply because he tells the intellect truth about their shenanigans amid the human species. I Love Cornel. He does it with love. Perfect for our time.
He doesn't say anything. He just passionately evokes things. This is nothing but a banal word salad. He draws from everything and everyone in creating a philosophical outlook that has no definite form, takes no position on anything, and can’t seem to make a clear and precise statement as to what he actually stands for. overpowering wave of vague generalities and moralistic slogans in which nothing is worked through in a systematic way.
Look at the change in audience's body posture between the beginning and 7 minutes in. People leaning, craning forward, to absorb as much as possible, the man to his right leaning back to take it all in, like he's at an Al Green show. This man is in the real-life Justice league, along with Hitchens .
I love this man. All the way from South Africa. I had hope that one day I'd be in his class or lecture but with Coronavirus that's never going to happen.
Completely agree. Dr. West is an expert at discussing problematic issues but completely lost when it comes to speaking on realistic solutions. He has a way of being extremely entertaining and sounding like the most intelligent man in the room without ever really saying anything of substance. It's old school pimp talk with an academic twist.
Exactly. Incoherent intelegible ramblings. He never makes an actual point. He just says a bunch of bumper sticker slogans with poetic reverence. It amazes me people find him to be an intellectual
Dr. Cornel West, the GALAXY's AMBASSADOR -CHANNELING THE ANGELS' VOICES in English, but torpedos all hearts with his heaven sent love and truth, the people's prophet, indeed!
The standing ovation says it all. We need to move away for a society in which wealth is the sole motivation for achievement and the sole criteria in determining human value.
Sorry for spamming posts, but it's awesome that he got a standing ovation. Say what you want about Cornel West, he certainly can enrapture a room full of people.
Cornell West carrier and how people find his mindless incoherent ramblings to somehow be intelegible, let alone intelligent. He speaks with a poetic reverence but never makes an actual point or stays on topic for more than a few seconds.
The Occupy movement should focus on demanding an Unconditional Basic Income funded by a Financial Transaction Tax (a tiny percentage taken off every stock market transaction). A UBI is much simpler and more efficient than manipulating banks and corporations to try to create jobs (an economic ideology that has proven itself futile) An Unconditional Basic Income is an adequate amount of basic income that gets automatically deposited into everyone's bank account every month (roughly the equivalent of a US $10 per hour job). The same amount to everyone, rich or poor, working or not. And with NO MEANS TESTING, so NO new government bureaucracies. The simplicity of the idea is it's beauty. It's an idea that has been supported by both left and right leaning politicians as a way to eliminate poverty and avert violent revolution. Switzerland is holding a referendum on this. If it passes, every Swiss citizen will receive an Unconditional Basic Income, rich or poor, working or not. Wherever a UBI has been tried, people worked more, not less, and started small businesses. That's because the money was adequate enough that they didn't need to go into debt to the banks to ask for a startup loan. Wherever an ADEQUATE UBI was tried, crime decreased and health care costs went down and the overall economy improved. The reason an Unconditional Basic Income is different than a minimum wage is because employers do not pay for a UBI. It would be funded by a Financial Transaction Tax which is a tiny percentage taken off every stock market transaction. That way employers won't raise prices and decrease jobs. In fact, a UBI would create MORE jobs because there would be more people buying products. Business would increase! Instant stimulation WITHOUT government intervention! Because there is NO MEANS TESTING, no extra bureaucracy would be needed. It could be run by one computer that deposits money into EVERYONE'S bank account automatically. We have many unpaid workers in our society. Volunteers, artists, musicians, homemakers, grandmothers, etc. It's now time that they were valued monetarily by society. It's time for REAL change - an Unconditional Basic Income! But politicians won't do anything this radically positive without a grassroots uprising from the people DEMANDING a UBI. So tell your friends and help make the UBI go viral!
These beautiful Brits struggling so hard to allow the joy and exuberance of resistance to flow through them without repression- the young people are alright.
The people in the chamber will probably never act upon what Cornel West is implicating because they are the very people he is criticizing or in some way related to them.
There is such a thing as a propositional statement. I studied propositional logic as part of my Computer Science degree. It was not an academic debate on the subtlety of what certain concepts mean. For this debate the 'layman's' definition sufficed.
Where is his speech like that in america to americans but still such great ability to say exactly what he means to say. Teaching.Reality.Under.The.Heavens.TRUTH
I like Cornell west. He is a charming likeable man, but there's nothing intellectual about him. He speaks like a preacher with metaphors and non sequitur. He is all over the place. I don't get it
I disagree with the war criminal part - in every war you have a kill list it is the nature of war - but that's 1% of my feelings on seeing this man speak, the remaining 99% is pure awe, pride and agreement. If you're on the other side of the argument when this man speaks - you need to pause and give serious reflection to what you believe and make damn sure you've thought it through regardless of the number of people on your side.
Salvation through loving one another is available to all. I read Galatians 2:11-21 (not only 16) which reinforces that Christians should not avoid wrongdoers or fail to love them. Then I read Ephesians 2:1-10 (not only 8-9) which again reiterates this point. Philippians 3:1-14 (9 isn't even a complete sentence), Paul encourages us to continue to strive for grace You've set a load of questions I've already answered with Matthew 25:31-46. You seem to be obfuscating, but I will answer again.
this type of charismatic speaker is something you will never hear in britain. Britsh people are too stuck up when they speak. it doesnt sound real at all. here we have absolute heart and fire
The people who bought them, the houseowners, the real estate agents, the regulators, the government, the depositors, economists the list goes on. And it was retail banks who made the dodgy loans, not the investment banks. If you are going to blame investment banks, retail banks are no less a culprit.
I like how you do such a large amount of research on the underlying reasons behind these regular crashes in the economy, and how you present this research in a logical argument.
He is a renowned debater; he clearly explained the purpose of the movement so I don't get your point. At least, he's not reading from a script like some people. He's certainly not a disgrace.
A propositional statement is one of: A simple proposition denoted by a capital letter, e.g. ‘A’. A negation of a propositional statement e.g. A : “not A” (You can google it) An academic definition is one used by experts that understand the broader literature and the complexity of a term in his field of study. Terms used by the man in the street are obviously different. However, social justice implies a fairer society to most people so it did not need to be defined for this type of debate.
actually no, calling someone 'simple-minded' isn't an ad hominem attack, unless the person hurling the insult is explicitly stating or implicitly suggesting that this is the reason your statement, argument, conclusion, etc. is false or invalid.
Mass production was developed in the Springfield and Harper Ferry armories. Containerization was developed by the Navy and remained subsidized by defense spending long into its commercialization. Automation and Machine tools were developed by military engineers. N/C developed with public financing at MIT and air force labs. And the history of the 1st world is the history of protectionism and socialism: from the American system to Bismarck, from MITI to General Park. There's some facts for ya.
When I was in my twenties, I thought this man was the most articulate person in the world. Now I'm in my forties, and I find this firebrand performance self-serving and emotionally manipulative. I understand why Daniel Hannan won the debate. This is what growing up is. Moral outrage without understanding is driving humanity over the edge into the teeth of their predators.
Dr. Cornel West speaks Truth to Power like no one else. He gave this speech directly to the Billionaire Class. They started the speech laughing, by the end Dr. West had them thinking.
I guess one thing we're going to have to agree to disagree on is I prefer to judge economic policies by their results when put into practice, and you like to judge them on their ideals. The idea of implementing a policy on a world level when it can't be applied successfully to a developing country sounds absolutely ridiculous to me, since if it doesn't work to provide growth than there is no way it can lift the world out of poverty.
The very concept of a developing country and of poverty hides that imperialism was about sapping wealth out of these places. You ignore the spiritual wealth of societies that have existed for thousands of years
By the 50s West Germany had surrounded itself with protective tariffs, created an all-around social insurance system, and established a government cartel for coal and steel. The corn bill was in 1844- 150 years after constant protectionism made England the only industrial state. Japan's economy was government planned up until the 1980s by the MITI. And the welfare state began in the 19th early 20th centuries by Bismarck in Germany and Lloyd George etc. and now everyone lives longer and happier.
"By the 50s West Germany had surrounded itself with protective tariffs" Wrong. Ludwig Erhard did exactly the opposite, unleashing the free market resulting in the "German economic miracle." "after constant protectionism made England the only industrial state" By that argument North Korea and Cuba should be the most industrious countries since they are the most protectionist. Where do you people even come up with this stupidity?
Yeah, and after he was done with Chile it had the most consistently growing economy in all of South America, and he eventually handed the government over to democracy. 100 million died in India under a centralized government that subsidized inefficient methods of labor, taxing the economy heavily and preventing more efficient methods from developing (e.g their textile industry). Compared to Hong Kong for example, which developed far more radically during that time period with 0 subsidization.
Cause those are totally reasonable things to expect in a UA-cam comment. Its hard to make in-depth socio-economic analysis in 500 characters or less, and with no proper formatting.
He starts the debate by describing his credibility i.e. his influences and what he has done for social justice. He goes on to describe the various topics that OWS were discussing including gay rights and unfair black incarceration. He admits that OWS is not organized but he believes supporting the motion is supporting the birth of a movement that will create a peaceful social revolution; something that 'corporate governments' can not achieve. To do nothing is to except the status quo.
William Morris!!! Well done Dr. West! Apart from JRR Tolkien- who drew his inspiration of fantasy fiction from Morris's work- I've never heard that underrated man referred to as "a hero", which he most certainly was.
Uh... Thank you, I thought no one would ever reply. I didn't mean the airports themselves, I was talking about the manufacturers- Boeing and Airbus- and how fully state-subsidized they are and have been from the beginning.
They at least understand present value. The crisis was caused by a storm of unrealistic expectations on housing by bankers, pensioners, homeowners, real estate agents, businessmen and everyone else. If half the population had shorted these CDOs, the crash would have happened much sooner, but that didn't happen, because the general populace went along with the whole thing. Everyone is to blame.
Malcolm X once spoke at the Oxford Union. The Avello Publishing Journal Editorial Ambassador is Dennis Howard Marks (Balliol College, University of Oxford.
What you see in America (and even 3rd world countries) today, a system based on corpratism and coercion, is not true free market capitalism. We blame corporations for the enormous wealth gap (rightfully so), but the government is the one propping them up through coercion. An educated public is what is truly important. In a truly free system, unions will ward off those inhumane conditions you speak of, and the american dream will shine true because education will level the playing field.
Christ calls us to love everyone and help those who are not in a position to love to get there. That's the goal explained in Matthew 25:31-46. Every one needs saving: the sick, the homeless, the incarcerated, the rich, the widows. How do we do that? Meet their needs. "Nations" are just groups of people. Even if the government steps in, the people will still need saving. As Paul's many letters also state, some Christians still need saving. Since anyone can save, everyone can be saved.
I for one liked his presentation a lot, but reject his content. It's well and good that he's so emotional and does not compromise his style. OWS was not exercising with instruments. Over a year of national gatherings is enough to at least get a general main tune going! And they made some concrete accusations and concrete solutions and merits of these are subject to judgment... and they are found wanting. Whatever emotion started it up - it is not enough.
Actually, Occupy does have some stated goals and solutions. As for your argument that a "campaign in central park isn't going to fix a damn thing" - tell that to the people who successfully protested in anti-apartheid movements, along with other protest movements around the world that have been so successful.
I love all the verbose youtubers posting their sudointelectual (see how I spelled that) opinions over matters as to which they are not qualified to speak. Corne West did an excellent job switching the subject and adding his own talking points. He'd make a great politician. Take that as you will.
Great speaker and i can certainly understand his views, and myself have a conflict with this topic. However, a lot of the major wealth is generational, which means the money came from someone working hard long ago to set up their family's future. I know there are different problems with that but do we want to take the money away from the descendants who didn't actually earn the money? Would that mean you support taking the money that Madam C.J. Walker's descendants have, or just the white ones? Do your children not get to benefit from your hard work? And at what amount do we start all this? There are a lot of millionaires out there.
True to an extent, but since the airports were unnationalised they have worked alot better. Other things like railways (speaking from the UK) are considerably worse in the private sector.
His unimpeachable credibility comes from an undeniable core of love for humanity.
He is an astonishing speaker! And a radical truth teller!
Kaloyan Stoyanov Yesssss 🙌🏽
Kaloyan Stoyanov. Actually it's people like him that are race-baiters in America. He's a professor and his one job is to talk about race therefore he has to keep saying racist problem and get black people who are very emotional people anyway all riled up about it. We should end such courses and throw people like him out of a job
@@achemedqureshi458You have to appreciate what he is doing and what he is saying. Parrhesia is to speak truth to power. This is an example of what parrhesia looks like. West is using his right to speech to raise issues about race, class, gender, and power. If you listen to what he is saying you would understand his words.
One of the leading intellectuals in the world
@@achemedqureshi458 Research him before you speak. That's the problem today. Intellectual laziness.
I can't believe only thirty three thousand people have seen this in over a year.
He is crazy.
+kingmatt2563 He's smart
Shameful
But, it doubled in only six more!
@@johnsmith1474 👏🏽
Whenever Dr West speaks I feel like I’m in a Black Congregation. I just wanna yell “Amen Brotha West!!” After every single sentence 😂
"Preeeach!"
Lmao
He is fun, but he debates with confusing nonsensical anecdotal statements. He never explains anything with facts or data.
Because Communism is a religion above all else.
Best line... 7:07 A war criminal with a Nobel peace prize. The elites in the audience hated that truth...
They're not elites in the audience really, relatively speaking anyway.
He draws from everything and everyone in creating a philosophical outlook that has no definite form, takes no position on anything, and can’t seem to make a clear and precise statement as to what he actually stands for.
This guy is awesome
Yes
This is why Dr. Cornel West is the greatest intellectual in the world today without question. Excellent speech and indictment of the plutocratic governments of the UK and the U.S.
Seeing the young people clapping with such enthusiasm tells me there's still hope in the future. They will one day pick up the mantle and help create a more just society. Awesome speech, I must have listened to it over 10 times.
i love what he says, and I love how he says it. I could listen to this man talk all day long!
Exactly, the solution is a deep cleansing of the corruption, greed and excess that has caused the current situation. Holding the perpetrators truly accountable is essential. The establishment has too much to lose by letting this happen, but we have nothing to lose by losing the established establishment.
Yes, a deep cleansing and an Unconditional Basic Income. Check out my post above for more info.
It's amazing how everything Mr. West talks about is clear as crystal. His words make sense in today's world, amazing what a pandemic crisis can do to a simpleton like myself. Thnk Cornel West for speaking truth to power
Agree with him or not you have to admire his speaking style.
he's a deluded hysterical street preacher, no
Will Mcloughlin I think he’s more like a tenured professor at Harvard, Princeton, and Yale.... and has more research to back him than any of the propaganda you’ve been led to believe. The truth hurts, that’s why when he speaks people have a knee jerk reaction to him.
Will Mcloughlin you wish that’s you’re 1 percent of what he is. Stick to your warehouse job and leave intellectuals in their space.
What's in your wallet?
@@DMC-ss4cm His a Harvard & Princeton professor. What’s your accomplishments loser?
Cornell West is brilliant and speaks the truth! He is most inspiring speaker I have ever heard, on a par with Dr. King - his voice goes right through you!
cornel west ! the best I have ever heard :) today on words u r my mst favt.
A beautiful man. A privilege to witness his testament of our times 🙏
He is vivacious and integral for the young people. He is not dangerous but,mendacious for oligarchs. Simply because he tells the intellect truth about their shenanigans amid the human species. I Love Cornel. He does it with love. Perfect for our time.
He doesn't say anything. He just passionately evokes things. This is nothing but a banal word salad.
He draws from everything and everyone in creating a philosophical outlook that has no definite form, takes no position on anything, and can’t seem to make a clear and precise statement as to what he actually stands for.
overpowering wave of vague generalities and moralistic slogans in which nothing is worked through in a systematic way.
Look at the change in audience's body posture between the beginning and 7 minutes in.
People leaning, craning forward, to absorb as much as possible, the man to his right leaning back to take it all in, like he's at an Al Green show.
This man is in the real-life Justice league, along with Hitchens .
So powerful, I fuckin love this man.
I don't agree with him on everything but he is absolutely brilliant, and it is refreshing to hear him speak.
Cornel West is the best public speaker I know! Amazing Performance!
I love this man. All the way from South Africa. I had hope that one day I'd be in his class or lecture but with Coronavirus that's never going to happen.
Completely agree. Dr. West is an expert at discussing problematic issues but completely lost when it comes to speaking on realistic solutions. He has a way of being extremely entertaining and sounding like the most intelligent man in the room without ever really saying anything of substance. It's old school pimp talk with an academic twist.
Exactly. Incoherent intelegible ramblings. He never makes an actual point. He just says a bunch of bumper sticker slogans with poetic reverence. It amazes me people find him to be an intellectual
Cornel West is a real American progressive. A true hero.
Dr. Cornel West, the GALAXY's AMBASSADOR -CHANNELING THE ANGELS' VOICES in English, but torpedos all hearts with his heaven sent love and truth, the people's prophet, indeed!
HA! I love this! Dr. Cornel West @ his best again! "All Hail Cornel West!"
Vote for this man! Put a good man on the throne FOR ONCE!
The standing ovation says it all.
We need to move away for a society in which wealth is the sole motivation for achievement and the sole criteria in determining human value.
Incredible speaker. The truth will set you free!
Beautiful. Just fucking beautiful. WE ARE THE 99 PERCENT!
Sorry for spamming posts, but it's awesome that he got a standing ovation. Say what you want about Cornel West, he certainly can enrapture a room full of people.
I love Cornel West. An amazing man.
He's an EXCELLENT speaker and everything he said was the truth, so I'm curious to know what it is that you don't agree with.
Cornell West carrier and how people find his mindless incoherent ramblings to somehow be intelegible, let alone intelligent. He speaks with a poetic reverence but never makes an actual point or stays on topic for more than a few seconds.
No one should be suffering
The Occupy movement should focus on demanding an Unconditional Basic Income funded by a Financial Transaction Tax (a tiny percentage taken off every stock market transaction). A UBI is much simpler and more efficient than manipulating banks and corporations to try to create jobs (an economic ideology that has proven itself futile)
An Unconditional Basic Income is an adequate amount of basic income that gets automatically deposited into everyone's bank account every month (roughly the equivalent of a US $10 per hour job). The same amount to everyone, rich or poor, working or not. And with NO MEANS TESTING, so NO new government bureaucracies.
The simplicity of the idea is it's beauty. It's an idea that has been supported by both left and right leaning politicians as a way to eliminate poverty and avert violent revolution.
Switzerland is holding a referendum on this. If it passes, every Swiss citizen will receive an Unconditional Basic Income, rich or poor, working or not.
Wherever a UBI has been tried, people worked more, not less, and started small businesses. That's because the money was adequate enough that they didn't need to go into debt to the banks to ask for a startup loan. Wherever an ADEQUATE UBI was tried, crime decreased and health care costs went down and the overall economy improved.
The reason an Unconditional Basic Income is different than a minimum wage is because employers do not pay for a UBI. It would be funded by a Financial Transaction Tax which is a tiny percentage taken off every stock market transaction. That way employers won't raise prices and decrease jobs. In fact, a UBI would create MORE jobs because there would be more people buying products. Business would increase! Instant stimulation WITHOUT government intervention!
Because there is NO MEANS TESTING, no extra bureaucracy would be needed. It could be run by one computer that deposits money into EVERYONE'S bank account automatically. We have many unpaid workers in our society. Volunteers, artists, musicians, homemakers, grandmothers, etc. It's now time that they were valued monetarily by society.
It's time for REAL change - an Unconditional Basic Income! But politicians won't do anything this radically positive without a grassroots uprising from the people DEMANDING a UBI. So tell your friends and help make the UBI go viral!
i disagree
i love listening to cornel west because he gives to you straight.. dont miss the message by being pre occupied with the messenger
Don't concentrate on the style that he delivers his message but what the message is what he is saying is more important then just a performance.
These beautiful Brits struggling so hard to allow the joy and exuberance of resistance to flow through them without repression- the young people are alright.
The people in the chamber will probably never act upon what Cornel West is implicating because they are the very people he is criticizing or in some way related to them.
A now prophetic,prolific voice well required at this very moment in time and space.......in the world!!
A war criminal with a Nobel Peace Prize. That's powerful stuff. We Americans need to hear it lots more often.
What a fantastic orator!
There is such a thing as a propositional statement. I studied propositional logic as part of my Computer Science degree. It was not an academic debate on the subtlety of what certain concepts mean. For this debate the 'layman's' definition sufficed.
Where is his speech like that in america to americans but still such great ability to say exactly what he means to say. Teaching.Reality.Under.The.Heavens.TRUTH
I like Cornell west. He is a charming likeable man, but there's nothing intellectual about him. He speaks like a preacher with metaphors and non sequitur. He is all over the place. I don't get it
I disagree with the war criminal part - in every war you have a kill list it is the nature of war - but that's 1% of my feelings on seeing this man speak, the remaining 99% is pure awe, pride and agreement.
If you're on the other side of the argument when this man speaks - you need to pause and give serious reflection to what you believe and make damn sure you've thought it through regardless of the number of people on your side.
You are absolutely right. Just look at some of them in the video, especially the ones behind West. They couldn't digest his food completely.
Salvation through loving one another is available to all. I read Galatians 2:11-21 (not only 16) which reinforces that Christians should not avoid wrongdoers or fail to love them. Then I read Ephesians 2:1-10 (not only 8-9) which again reiterates this point. Philippians 3:1-14 (9 isn't even a complete sentence), Paul encourages us to continue to strive for grace You've set a load of questions I've already answered with Matthew 25:31-46. You seem to be obfuscating, but I will answer again.
this type of charismatic speaker is something you will never hear in britain. Britsh people are too stuck up when they speak. it doesnt sound real at all. here we have absolute heart and fire
The people who bought them, the houseowners, the real estate agents, the regulators, the government, the depositors, economists the list goes on. And it was retail banks who made the dodgy loans, not the investment banks. If you are going to blame investment banks, retail banks are no less a culprit.
I like how you do such a large amount of research on the underlying reasons behind these regular crashes in the economy, and how you present this research in a logical argument.
He is a renowned debater; he clearly explained the purpose of the movement so I don't get your point. At least, he's not reading from a script like some people. He's certainly not a disgrace.
A Gem 💎 I just discovered
Telling the Truth in front of the British Upper Class
A propositional statement is one of:
A simple proposition denoted by a capital letter, e.g. ‘A’.
A negation of a propositional statement
e.g. A : “not A” (You can google it)
An academic definition is one used by experts that understand the broader literature and the complexity of a term in his field of study. Terms used by the man in the street are obviously different. However, social justice implies a fairer society to most people so it did not need to be defined for this type of debate.
He is so awesome the Camera raised its hand haha
Not once did he offer a solution, a good history lesson and name dropping. I am in agreement with you.
actually no, calling someone 'simple-minded' isn't an ad hominem attack, unless the person hurling the insult is explicitly stating or implicitly suggesting that this is the reason your statement, argument, conclusion, etc. is false or invalid.
whenever I listen to Cornel West I always get a big stupid grin on my face
Look in the audience and see your kindred souls.
It is very provocative talk that open a window to understand the ideology of white supremacy in Western Culture.
Mass production was developed in the Springfield and Harper Ferry armories. Containerization was developed by the Navy and remained subsidized by defense spending long into its commercialization. Automation and Machine tools were developed by military engineers. N/C developed with public financing at MIT and air force labs.
And the history of the 1st world is the history of protectionism and socialism: from the American system to Bismarck, from MITI to General Park.
There's some facts for ya.
When I was in my twenties, I thought this man was the most articulate person in the world. Now I'm in my forties, and I find this firebrand performance self-serving and emotionally manipulative. I understand why Daniel Hannan won the debate. This is what growing up is. Moral outrage without understanding is driving humanity over the edge into the teeth of their predators.
Just say you’ve become more conservative and selfish as you’ve got older
I wish Occupy would adopt Cornel West as a figure head. It would give it some coherence.
Dr. West is more effective sitting down.
The vast majority of people are missing out on it, and will always miss out on it so long as capitalism exists.
So true, we as a people are still just trying to get our instruments together. But damnit hurry up.
Dr. Cornel West speaks Truth to Power like no one else. He gave this speech directly to the Billionaire Class. They started the speech laughing, by the end Dr. West had them thinking.
I guess one thing we're going to have to agree to disagree on is I prefer to judge economic policies by their results when put into practice, and you like to judge them on their ideals. The idea of implementing a policy on a world level when it can't be applied successfully to a developing country sounds absolutely ridiculous to me, since if it doesn't work to provide growth than there is no way it can lift the world out of poverty.
The very concept of a developing country and of poverty hides that imperialism was about sapping wealth out of these places. You ignore the spiritual wealth of societies that have existed for thousands of years
Toastmasters ain't got nuthin' on Brotha West!
By the 50s West Germany had surrounded itself with protective tariffs, created an all-around social insurance system, and established a government cartel for coal and steel.
The corn bill was in 1844- 150 years after constant protectionism made England the only industrial state. Japan's economy was government planned up until the 1980s by the MITI. And the welfare state began in the 19th early 20th centuries by Bismarck in Germany and Lloyd George etc. and now everyone lives longer and happier.
"By the 50s West Germany had surrounded itself with protective tariffs"
Wrong. Ludwig Erhard did exactly the opposite, unleashing the free market resulting in the "German economic miracle."
"after constant protectionism made England the only industrial state"
By that argument North Korea and Cuba should be the most industrious countries since they are the most protectionist. Where do you people even come up with this stupidity?
I love how Dan Hannan destroyed every point Cornel made about 10 minutes after this haha
Luckily absolutely no one is talking about leaving the single market.
That's just your confirmation bias talking.
Dr. Cornel FANTÁSTICO!
Yeah, and after he was done with Chile it had the most consistently growing economy in all of South America, and he eventually handed the government over to democracy. 100 million died in India under a centralized government that subsidized inefficient methods of labor, taxing the economy heavily and preventing more efficient methods from developing (e.g their textile industry). Compared to Hong Kong for example, which developed far more radically during that time period with 0 subsidization.
Who, what spirit, contagious and inspiring!
He just cant drop the preacher in him
what an inspiration for everyone...
the students at Oxford showing they've got most zeal for the easy issue of Palenstine rather than poverty in their own country
Yeah. You definitely can’t care about both. It’s only possible to have one view at a time.
Cause those are totally reasonable things to expect in a UA-cam comment. Its hard to make in-depth socio-economic analysis in 500 characters or less, and with no proper formatting.
I AM a Revolutionary!!!!!! Power To All the People!!!!
He starts the debate by describing his credibility i.e. his influences and what he has done for social justice. He goes on to describe the various topics that OWS were discussing including gay rights and unfair black incarceration. He admits that OWS is not organized but he believes supporting the motion is supporting the birth of a movement that will create a peaceful social revolution; something that 'corporate governments' can not achieve. To do nothing is to except the status quo.
This Men is telling us to put emotions into our Lifes. Express what is Inside. There is a Vulcano in Each of Us
That girl sitting behind Hannan is gorgeus
William Morris!!!
Well done Dr. West! Apart from JRR Tolkien- who drew his inspiration of fantasy fiction from Morris's work- I've never heard that underrated man referred to as "a hero", which he most certainly was.
Uh... Thank you, I thought no one would ever reply.
I didn't mean the airports themselves, I was talking about the manufacturers- Boeing and Airbus- and how fully state-subsidized they are and have been from the beginning.
My tought exactly, Brother West
They at least understand present value. The crisis was caused by a storm of unrealistic expectations on housing by bankers, pensioners, homeowners, real estate agents, businessmen and everyone else. If half the population had shorted these CDOs, the crash would have happened much sooner, but that didn't happen, because the general populace went along with the whole thing. Everyone is to blame.
Malcolm X once spoke at the Oxford Union. The Avello Publishing Journal Editorial Ambassador is Dennis Howard Marks (Balliol College, University of Oxford.
What you see in America (and even 3rd world countries) today, a system based on corpratism and coercion, is not true free market capitalism. We blame corporations for the enormous wealth gap (rightfully so), but the government is the one propping them up through coercion. An educated public is what is truly important. In a truly free system, unions will ward off those inhumane conditions you speak of, and the american dream will shine true because education will level the playing field.
No the hedge funds and investment banks who invented the products are to blame.
Christ calls us to love everyone and help those who are not in a position to love to get there. That's the goal explained in Matthew 25:31-46. Every one needs saving: the sick, the homeless, the incarcerated, the rich, the widows. How do we do that? Meet their needs. "Nations" are just groups of people. Even if the government steps in, the people will still need saving. As Paul's many letters also state, some Christians still need saving. Since anyone can save, everyone can be saved.
Cornell West is brilliant!
I for one liked his presentation a lot, but reject his content. It's well and good that he's so emotional and does not compromise his style. OWS was not exercising with instruments. Over a year of national gatherings is enough to at least get a general main tune going! And they made some concrete accusations and concrete solutions and merits of these are subject to judgment... and they are found wanting. Whatever emotion started it up - it is not enough.
Actually, Occupy does have some stated goals and solutions. As for your argument that a "campaign in central park isn't going to fix a damn thing" - tell that to the people who successfully protested in anti-apartheid movements, along with other protest movements around the world that have been so successful.
Cornel West is just brilliant!
I love all the verbose youtubers posting their sudointelectual (see how I spelled that) opinions over matters as to which they are not qualified to speak. Corne West did an excellent job switching the subject and adding his own talking points. He'd make a great politician. Take that as you will.
I'd argue that from this statement he knows more about Cornel West than you.
Great speaker and i can certainly understand his views, and myself have a conflict with this topic. However, a lot of the major wealth is generational, which means the money came from someone working hard long ago to set up their family's future. I know there are different problems with that but do we want to take the money away from the descendants who didn't actually earn the money? Would that mean you support taking the money that Madam C.J. Walker's descendants have, or just the white ones? Do your children not get to benefit from your hard work? And at what amount do we start all this? There are a lot of millionaires out there.
I love the way this man speaks.
What a great speech 🎤
True to an extent, but since the airports were unnationalised they have worked alot better. Other things like railways (speaking from the UK) are considerably worse in the private sector.