Ahhhh you see now we're getting into some real shit. Matching x pink Floyd album/track with x movie or film footage. All that's missing is "while your tripping" or "when you're really stoned". I'll experience it with you again later because Echoes has great significance to me, and I love Kubrick films.
You must watch Echoes live at Pompeii. They take that classic to another level. Also a rare opportunity to actually see the four of them at their creative peak.
The lyrics at the end of the 2nd verse and the beginning of the 3rd verse… it’s just too amazing to be a coincidence. Pink Floyd could’ve done this in post production secretly
I hear Rick slightly louder on this version than I do Dave. A lot of people don't realize Rick was the chief vocalist in the band for one brief period.
@@jameswormington9978 Gesh, it's not a big deal. Anyone can make that mistake. "Huge assumptions." It's people like you who are so annoying for those reacting to new songs. There's a lot that you take for granted that is entirely new to the first-time listener. Pull the stick out and give them a break.
One additional observation about that final 2001 scene. Dave has accelerated through time from "astronaut Dave" arriving in helmet to soup-sipping middle-aged Dave sitting at the table to "invalid Dave" laying in the bed. Then the view shifts to the view of invalid Dave in bed on the left and the black monolith on the right, then the view shifts to what Dave sees looking at the monolith at the end of the bed as if it is some omnipotent (malevolent?) force watching over him as he nears death. That scene is particularly eerie if you think about how many modern bedrooms appear now with a GIGANTIC flat screen TV sitting atop a dresser so people can watch TV in bed. And guess where many people are going to die in old age... In bed... Unable to move... With some giant TV looking over them.... Probably turned off... Looking like a giant black monolith.
Best version for me is Gdańsk - when Rick and David played it for the last time before Rick passed. I also saw probably it’s first live performance and introduced them onstage - what a privilege! The obelisk is a portal.
BACK in 1971-72 high school and college kids were taking acid, listening to Floyd and going to the theater at midnight to see 2001: Space Odyssey. That's half a century ago.
The Cycle of life does repeat. It has to. But I don’t think it’s me returning. It’s not my consciousness coming back. I wish it was. It is interesting how the Echos song matches up with the film ending of Space Odyssey. I wonder if it’s just a coincidence or not. What do you think? Good reactions as usual! I think you interpreted the song correctly. 👏🏻🎸😎
Two classics in their own rights... Random notes... The pings at the beginning are Richard Wright playing piano mic'ed then played through a Leslie rotating speaker. The section with "seagulls" is Gilmour plugging his guitar into the output of a wha pedal and plugging its input into the amp. It creates weird oscillations that can be controlled by the volume knob. The core theme of 2001 is the evolution of mankind as mankind's use of tools evolves... and how one of man's greatest tools (a supercomputer running the ship) will still reflect the evil of man but can be defeated by one of man's simplest tools (the screwdriver Dave has to use to remove HAL's memory to disable it). The last part of the movie is pure visual analogy of man becoming pure thought. The scene of Dave accelerating through time to the point where he begins seeing "future Dave" in the abstract hotel room only to look up from the bed to see the monolith is the point where he becomes pure thought, reflecting the possibility of reaching immortality / infinity. That part of the movie was named To Infinity and Beyond. As one gets older and time seems to accelerate, that scene becomes more profound with each watching. Also, search for "echoes dobbie hall" on YT for a video showing ONE GUY recreating Echoes in its entirety in a college lecture hall. How he edited the video to show him appearing to play each of the parts side by side I have yet to figure out.
As far as interpreting the film 2001, Arthur C. Clarke's novel clearly depicts the monoliths as a way that extraterrestrials aid the human species through a series of significant evolutionary leaps. When the primates come in contact with the first one they begin using tools and eating meat, when they find the 2nd one on the Moon they begin to develop more advanced spacecrafts and technology in order to find the 3rd one orbiting Jupiter. This one takes the human from his ship and allows his life to finish in isolation, whereby the final monolith rebirths him as a new and better species consisting of pure energy. Kubrick was always hesitant to say this was his definitive vision for the film, preferring to allow viewers to draw their own conclusions, but this is a fair starting point for those confused.
Pink Floyd contributed to the soundtrack of the movie "Zabriskie Point". The song was called "Come In #51, Your Time Is Up". Grateful Dead also contributed a song to that movie.
The movie began with the dawn of man. A strange other-worldly monolith inspired, nay directed the proto-man creatures to the use of tools and strategic thought. Millions of years later astronaut Dave Bowman is the sole survivor of the spacecraft Discovery's trip to Jupiter. The mission of the crew was to investigate an intense beam of energy/data from the monolith found on our moon toward Jupiter -- to find whoever or whatever that beam was sent to. Bowman finds, in orbit of Jupiter's moon Europa, another monolith. He ventures out in his pod spacecraft to get a closer look. Intent upon landing on it he finds it is not a solid surface but a portal -- a means of delivering one through other dimensions to another place and time without the restraint of moving along a direct path from point A to point B. He winds up billions of light years away. All this time Bowman is studying what he sees, he is being studied by the superior being(s) that brought him there. Here Boman sees the creation of stars, solar systems, galaxies, nebulae, explosions of supernovas, etc. (some depicted as visual metaphors of sperm and ova.) Mankind has advanced to the point of traversing through space. His technology discovered the monolith hidden away on the moon specifically for him to find. Its discovery defined a huge step forward in his evolution. Man has mastered science and technology, has his wisdom and humanity advanced that much as well? Is man now worthy of the next big evolutional step; the cosmic creation of the Star Child?
In early versions "Echoes" had a more sci-fi and space vibe but PF changed first verses for a more "submarine" and introspective approach to the lyrics. Original name was "The Return of the Son of Nothing" (i think there is some booklet in youtube, mostly pirate recordings of live versions). Yeah, it's a good interpretation of Kubrick's film think about a sperm-spaceship and metaphore of a new rebirth as "star childrens". In other words, become a space faring civilization.
Spot on about the Space Odyssey story. And a very surprising match with the Echoes. Very nice. But I believe they are both the best of each other. Check out the live version of Echoes Live in Pompeii, where they even surpassed the experience. Once in a lifetime. Something wonderful will happen. Genesis.
Thanks for trying this, saw/heard both when released, both the movie and the song are a trip unto themselves. We played Echoes as the last song every Saturday back in the day. The tune that starts the flip side of the Meddle album is also worth a listen, One of These Days is amazing in its own way. Enjoy! 🎵
"One of These Days" is off that album and the Pompeii performance of it shows the drummer Nick's style. It was played in most of the concerts i've watched, so definitely a fan favorite from their discography. ua-cam.com/video/Nw1643T0RD0/v-deo.html
I reacted to your content audio only Syed, knowing this rescore from memory and had the widest grin on my face in public. A reaction unbiased by nostalgia is a beautiful thing.
Interesting film. It was Kubrick's idea to make a film about extraterrestrials, and he wanted a book he could adapt for the film, so he commandeered the perfect guy: Artuur C Clarke. There are four books in the series, all which I have read. Interesting point about the film. It is, as you may know, very plodding and cumbersome, and because of this, it did not do well at the box office initially, with many walking out on the film. But over time, it and the books have become classics. Great stuff. Oh, btw, there's absolutely no intended connection between Floyd's music and any films, such as 2001: A Space Odyssey or The Wizard of Oz.
It's a frankenstein story, about man playing god by trying to create artificial intelligence. (The "monster" in this movie is HAL.) So "God" shows up (in the form of an unseen alien) to show "man" (in the form of Dave Bowman) what a real god is capable of, and then to put "man" in purgatory (the room with no doors or windows) as punishment for his sin of hubris (playing god.) The last shot is Dave Bowman being reincarnated upon his death and sent back to earth, presumably with the message that, if you mess around with AI again, this alien/god/whatever-it-is is going to be pissed.
OK, WHEN I MADE MY EARLIER COMMENT I HADN'T FINISHED THE VIDEO!! NOW I AM AT THE 23:30 MARK AND I WANT TO SAY THAT I HAVE ALWAYS FELT A PRIMATIVE EARTH VIBE FROM ECHOES!! SO IT'S REALLY COOL THAT YOU MENTION THE MONKEY SOUNDS!! I ALWAYS THOUGHT OF THEM AS SOUNDS OF A PRIMATIVE JUNGLE!! AND WHEN YOU GO BACK TO THE LYRICS OF THE FIRST VERSE, "THE ECHO OF THE DISTANT TIME COME WILLOWING ACROSS THE SAND, AND EVERYTHING IS GREEN AND SUBMARINE! AND NO ONE SHOWED US TO THE LAND AND NO ONE KNOWS THE WHERES OR WHYS, SOMETHING STIRS AND SOMETHING TRIES AND STARTS TO CLIMB TOWARD THE LIGHT!" TO ME, THIS IS LIFE EMERGING OUT OF THE PRIMORDIAL SOUP!!!
I went to see a film in 1973 called Crystsl Voyager. It was a world champion surf rider filming with a camera on his back and going through the breaker tunnels. The filming was spectacular set to the pink floyd echoes. It's available on youtube. Worth a watch.
This is a marvelous coincidence that it matches up so well in its sounds. However, since to me Echoes is all about an ocean experience (talking about everything being green and submarine.,,and corals…and the sounds are so obviously whales speaking to one another….,and then you rise back to the surface at the end and hear seagulls and see the sun again) there is no connection to outer space IN THE LYRICS. Trippy music of course, but I would love to see Echoes put to a video of diving down deep in the ocean.
I have heard the music before and love it....but I've never seen it with this film...thank you for the experience and I enjoy your reactions so much....
In the live stage performance they have what seems like a spacecraft taking off and then a trail like its going through space and then landing somewhere, that was my interpretation
As far as I recall, David Bowman the astronaut didn't go into the infinite in the main mother ship "Discovery one". He was in an escape Pod (Eva pod). I always took the baby at the end (The Star Child) to be him reborn into a new evolution of mankind.
Another great reaction and this is something I have never seen before. Echoes is one of my favourite Floyd tracks. Gilmour’s Gdańsk show in 2006 was the last time that Echoes was played live. Gilmour said he would never play Echoes without Rick because it was always meant to be a conversation between the two of them. And what a poignant, transcendent and beautiful final conversation it was.
I think they turned it down to some of the film content and didn't want there music associated with it remember when that film came out and look at some of the scenes and themes of the movie you can understand why.
Yes too bad I didn't enter the live stream but I enjoyed the video nevertheless! Very eye-opening and inspirational production and professional analysis from yourself :)
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As well as the Kubrik film, which is iconic and my favourite of all time, Arthur C Clarke is the author of four novels depicting the story begun in this film. Some of the best Sci fi ever written.
My interpretation of the old man scenes is that the higher intelligence is showing him a new perspective, a new way to experience time. If time was a roll of film, we normally view it frame by frame, while they see the roll from the side, all the bits at once. In the start of the film, the monolith, this higher life form, taught the monkeys how to manipulate the physical realm (using bones as tools/weapons) and this is their next lesson.
There is a theory about meaning of the obelisk: We have small versions of it in our pockets, in our homes. It's a BLACK SCREEN, a vertical one like our smartphones. Obelisk it's a metaphore for technology. Through it we can evolve into higher levels of consciousness
Check out the movie Zabriskie Point which some of Pink Floyd’s music was used in the film. The end credits is visually and musically fascinating. Come in No.51!
They scored La valle (the valley) which is a French movie. Obscured by clouds in 1972 and in 1969 the More album was from some movie. They also did songs for zabriskie point. All these movies are hippie weird trippe 50 yearold films.stuff I loved 20-25-30 years ago and bought on vhs.
"Echoes" was originally titled "Return to the Sun of Nothing" - pretty trippy. The weird keening death-cry in the middle bit is down to Gilmour plugging his guitar into an effect box the wrong way - happy accident.
On their album Meddle. Never saw Echoes played along with a movie. That's David and Rick Wright singing together. Please also check out Echoes live at Pompeii, 1971, parts 1 and 2. Thanks!
For me it's not "monkey noises" but "whale sounds". Echoes....everything is green and submarine.... Don't try to connect the song and the movie by all means. In the end I think it's just a coincidence.
I'm a huge Floyd purist... Like I don't care for The Wall film. So, I never watched this before. It was very very very AMAZING. Yes! Watch Live at Pompeii. It is all about the music
While echoes at pompeii is fabulous I personally prefer c echoes in ghdansk it will put the hairs up on the back of your neck I would have enjoyed your blog a lot more if you had played the music first without interruption and then commented if your a true lover of music the music always comes first
Too cool. Didn't even know this mash-up existed. Love your interpretations and insights. I always feel there is a lot of Richard Wright showcased in this piece, meaning the music. Where you heard monkeys I can see it in relation to the images the music is paired with. What I hear in that part of Echos is the deep oceans and whale songs and the wind. I have seen a David Gilmour interview where he describes Richard as "an old salt" in that he, Richard, loved the sea and got out on it whenever he could.
Time is a purely mortal construct. From the point of view of the universe time exists all at once, past present and future. I believe in the final scene you see some representation of that. The man isn't being reborn nor is he growing old. He has merely transcended time. Moved into some higher plane of consciousness where the construct of time as we know it has broken down and he now perceives everything all at once... as if a god. Or spirit perhaps? The fetus (starchild) represents that higher plane of consciousness. The monolith represents the progression of man at each stage of his existence on Earth. Its final appearance in the film coming at the moment he becomes pure spirit. P.S. The sounds you hear that you attribute to monkeys, most of us hear as whales.... or some other oceanic creature.
Never heard this theory before but it makes some sort of weird sense... one of my favourite PF tracks, and also one of my all-time favourite movies - one of the most mysterious and (dare I say it) cosmic of all time. And some of those cuts were spookily coincidental with music and film (e.g., when the old Bowman is walking around the house... and his footsteps were pretty much in time with the beat, too) You should start exploring some of the crazy theories about Radiohead's music soon!
Hey Syed, Next time you listen to this song, just as you get to the end of the first guitar solo and begin the groovy section DOUBLE the volume!!! You'll be impressed! It really rocks...
Man, you catch all the details ! It's coming to the end of one's self/ego, man's achievements, going thru the Journey God intended and being re-born Spiritually EYES WIDE OPEN. Represent The Great Awakening. We have entered the Brave New World. Dave is a Child of God, Jesus' little brother.
ok if you consider that terry gillian directed fear and loathing in las vegas and that monty python and pink floyd are closely tied to each other and then play dark side of the moon along side the movie... seriously i am the only one who seems to get this but it's real... fear and loathing on the dark side of the moon.
I did this 20 odd years ago and it blew me away. Has anybody ever asked Roger if this was true? I know he was interviewed on Rogan recently and he said the Wizard of Oz connection was bullshit. Not so sure about Echoes.
Kubrick actually wanted to use Pink Floyd music from atom heart mother for A Clockwork Orange! But because Kubrick wanted to cut the song up to fit the movie so do to that the Pink Floyd band members would not allow the use of the actual song atom heart mother from the atom heart mother album. And as far as echoes Andrew Lloyd Webber borrowed so to speak the main riff from Echoes for Phantom of the Opera! Rodger Waters thought of suing him but it would have just been too much trouble period. And as far as the movie with Dave the astronaut he grows old and then turns according to the book into What's called the Starchild. My wife actually read the book this movie was based on and what's going on is he's evolving to the next level as the Starchild. It's the next link so to speak because if you go watch the whole movie one day the movie starts out with Apes who are gathered together and one discovers how to use a weapon following the monolith showing up in their world so at that point when the ape discovers how to use a weapon Apes evolve and start becoming man. Each monolith in the movie is kind of like a breadcrumb with each evolution of Life following those breadcrumbs till they get to the monolith in space. Don't want to say too much and spoil the movie!
I'd imagine by now,with so many people requesting the live at Pompei version, you have probably checked it out, when your jaw returns off the floor, tell us what you think mate👍
That ain't monkeys in the opening, they are apes. Also the sounds in Echoes are whale sounds (made with guitars), the song plays a lot with the "our ancestors came out of the oceans" aspect of evolution. But thanks for your ideas about the sperm and the egg, i never considered that.
Kubrick and Clarke had rather different interpretations of the meaning of 2001. Kubrick was very reluctant to discuss the matter and preferred to let the audiences make up their own minds. Clarke, however, explained that, according to him, the film represented the ascension of man to the next evolutionary level of development. This step needed the help of extraterrestrials to be achieved, which is why aliens planted the monolith on Earth in the first place. When touched, the monolith imbued man with enough intelligence to understand the use of tools, and from there on, we were on our way! The aliens gave us enough intelligence to develop ourselves to such a level that we'd be "ready" for the final step, which, according to Clarke, was to be reborn as a new, galactic entity. This is where Kubrick and Clarke's interpretations differ. Kubrick had a more mystical and ambiguous reading of the meaning, where the "star child" was a benign being that represented the ultimate in human growth and perhaps excellence. But Clarke saw things in a much more sinister way. According to him, the "star child" was actually a catalyst. It may not be shown in the finished film, but when the embryo approaches Earth, its presence triggers the world's nuclear arsenals to go off and start WWIII. Why? I guess because humanity finally encountered a lifeform more aggressive than itself?
2001 wasn’t written to classical music, it was put down as a temporary track while editing, when it worked so well the score which was being written was dumped
If you think this is good, you should try........ The Dark Side Of Oz ! Its mad as a badger in a top hat !!!!! It syncs up so well even phrases match together.
Don't fall back to the Invisible Sky Fairy/God thing! Too easy. I think we're looking at a universal concept of time - the broken glass reminds us of entropy.
You should check out Stevie Ray Vaughan and watch something live from the El Mocambo now that you have dived into metal and see what Texas Blues is all about. Arguably the best guitarist ever and Stevie doesn't play guitar or music, it just comes out of him and that is why I say watch it live and you will understand what I mean. Subscribing to your channel now.
Can you even imagine how trippy this was in a movie theater back in 1968? I think that the younger folk.,,,many of whom were stoned, understood the movie at a basic level much better than the older “straight” people in the audience. Back then “straight” meant not stoned……
My English teacher at secondary school took the interested pupils to see this film when it was released in '68, I was 15. I've never forgotten that teacher.
Do you want to know the meaning? Read the novel, '2001: A Space Oddessey' by Arthur C. Clarke. Kubrick does great movies from novels, but they do distort the book and the authors' intent. For example, he doesn't detail what the StarChild does as his first act. Another example is that Dr. Strangelove wasn't meant to be a comedy.
Ahhhh you see now we're getting into some real shit. Matching x pink Floyd album/track with x movie or film footage. All that's missing is "while your tripping" or "when you're really stoned". I'll experience it with you again later because Echoes has great significance to me, and I love Kubrick films.
You must watch Echoes live at Pompeii. They take that classic to another level. Also a rare opportunity to actually see the four of them at their creative peak.
YES ! MUST !
The lyrics at the end of the 2nd verse and the beginning of the 3rd verse… it’s just too amazing to be a coincidence. Pink Floyd could’ve done this in post production secretly
He is not double tracking his vocals on this track. He and Rick Wright (keyboardist) are singing together.
absolutely ... you really should research before making such huge assumptions
I hear Rick slightly louder on this version than I do Dave. A lot of people don't realize Rick was the chief vocalist in the band for one brief period.
That Is the point; Rick's and Dave's voices are not so far apart. By watching the original film, it would be quite clear.
That Is the point; Rick's and Dave's voices are not so far apart. By watching the original film, it would be quite clear.
@@jameswormington9978 Gesh, it's not a big deal. Anyone can make that mistake. "Huge assumptions." It's people like you who are so annoying for those reacting to new songs. There's a lot that you take for granted that is entirely new to the first-time listener. Pull the stick out and give them a break.
"Who has the balls to create a 23 minute long song?" Mike Old Field - Tubular Bells
One additional observation about that final 2001 scene. Dave has accelerated through time from "astronaut Dave" arriving in helmet to soup-sipping middle-aged Dave sitting at the table to "invalid Dave" laying in the bed. Then the view shifts to the view of invalid Dave in bed on the left and the black monolith on the right, then the view shifts to what Dave sees looking at the monolith at the end of the bed as if it is some omnipotent (malevolent?) force watching over him as he nears death. That scene is particularly eerie if you think about how many modern bedrooms appear now with a GIGANTIC flat screen TV sitting atop a dresser so people can watch TV in bed. And guess where many people are going to die in old age... In bed... Unable to move... With some giant TV looking over them.... Probably turned off... Looking like a giant black monolith.
WOW! INTERESTING!!
Best version for me is Gdańsk - when Rick and David played it for the last time before Rick passed. I also saw probably it’s first live performance and introduced them onstage - what a privilege! The obelisk is a portal.
BACK in 1971-72 high school and college kids were taking acid, listening to Floyd and going to the theater at midnight to see 2001: Space Odyssey. That's half a century ago.
SYED, I BELIEVE RICK WRIGHT IS CONTRIBUTING VOCALS!! PLEASE LISTEN TO THE LIVE AT POMPEII AND YOU WILL SEE!! ALSO SEEING GILMORE PLAY LIVE IS EPIC!
I think Rick always does those high harmonies, in every song.
I used to have my edit of this on my other channel but for some reason it got a copyright takedown while others still exist.
Ok, so now it's about time to check another genius masterpiece - The Wall movie from 1982 :)
My all time favorite pink floyd song, it's so damn good
The Cycle of life does repeat. It has to. But I don’t think it’s me returning. It’s not my consciousness coming back.
I wish it was.
It is interesting how the Echos song matches up with the film ending of Space Odyssey.
I wonder if it’s just a coincidence or not.
What do you think?
Good reactions as usual!
I think you interpreted the song correctly.
👏🏻🎸😎
Two classics in their own rights... Random notes... The pings at the beginning are Richard Wright playing piano mic'ed then played through a Leslie rotating speaker. The section with "seagulls" is Gilmour plugging his guitar into the output of a wha pedal and plugging its input into the amp. It creates weird oscillations that can be controlled by the volume knob. The core theme of 2001 is the evolution of mankind as mankind's use of tools evolves... and how one of man's greatest tools (a supercomputer running the ship) will still reflect the evil of man but can be defeated by one of man's simplest tools (the screwdriver Dave has to use to remove HAL's memory to disable it). The last part of the movie is pure visual analogy of man becoming pure thought. The scene of Dave accelerating through time to the point where he begins seeing "future Dave" in the abstract hotel room only to look up from the bed to see the monolith is the point where he becomes pure thought, reflecting the possibility of reaching immortality / infinity. That part of the movie was named To Infinity and Beyond. As one gets older and time seems to accelerate, that scene becomes more profound with each watching. Also, search for "echoes dobbie hall" on YT for a video showing ONE GUY recreating Echoes in its entirety in a college lecture hall. How he edited the video to show him appearing to play each of the parts side by side I have yet to figure out.
As far as interpreting the film 2001, Arthur C. Clarke's novel clearly depicts the monoliths as a way that extraterrestrials aid the human species through a series of significant evolutionary leaps. When the primates come in contact with the first one they begin using tools and eating meat, when they find the 2nd one on the Moon they begin to develop more advanced spacecrafts and technology in order to find the 3rd one orbiting Jupiter. This one takes the human from his ship and allows his life to finish in isolation, whereby the final monolith rebirths him as a new and better species consisting of pure energy. Kubrick was always hesitant to say this was his definitive vision for the film, preferring to allow viewers to draw their own conclusions, but this is a fair starting point for those confused.
Pink Floyd contributed to the soundtrack of the movie "Zabriskie Point". The song was called "Come In #51, Your Time Is Up". Grateful Dead also contributed a song to that movie.
Gilmour isn't double tracked here. It's Rick Wright and David Gilmour harmonizing. I can see how you would think that though
The movie began with the dawn of man. A strange other-worldly monolith inspired, nay directed the proto-man creatures to the use of tools and strategic thought.
Millions of years later astronaut Dave Bowman is the sole survivor of the spacecraft Discovery's trip to Jupiter. The mission of the crew was to investigate an intense beam of energy/data from the monolith found on our moon toward Jupiter -- to find whoever or whatever that beam was sent to.
Bowman finds, in orbit of Jupiter's moon Europa, another monolith. He ventures out in his pod spacecraft to get a closer look. Intent upon landing on it he finds it is not a solid surface but a portal -- a means of delivering one through other dimensions to another place and time without the restraint of moving along a direct path from point A to point B. He winds up billions of light years away. All this time Bowman is studying what he sees, he is being studied by the superior being(s) that brought him there. Here Boman sees the creation of stars, solar systems, galaxies, nebulae, explosions of supernovas, etc. (some depicted as visual metaphors of sperm and ova.)
Mankind has advanced to the point of traversing through space. His technology discovered the monolith hidden away on the moon specifically for him to find. Its discovery defined a huge step forward in his evolution. Man has mastered science and technology, has his wisdom and humanity advanced that much as well? Is man now worthy of the next big evolutional step; the cosmic creation of the Star Child?
awesome awesome synopsis mate, great job!
This particular song has always represented some sort of epiphany to me. Some sort of realization that we are not here for ourselves alone.
In early versions "Echoes" had a more sci-fi and space vibe but PF changed first verses for a more "submarine" and introspective approach to the lyrics. Original name was "The Return of the Son of Nothing" (i think there is some booklet in youtube, mostly pirate recordings of live versions). Yeah, it's a good interpretation of Kubrick's film think about a sperm-spaceship and metaphore of a new rebirth as "star childrens". In other words, become a space faring civilization.
AND I HAVEN'T EVEN MENTIONED MY HALLUCINAGENIC EXPERIENCE HEARING THIS SONG LIVE IN 1975 WHILE ON ACID!!
Spot on about the Space Odyssey story. And a very surprising match with the Echoes. Very nice. But I believe they are both the best of each other. Check out the live version of Echoes Live in Pompeii, where they even surpassed the experience. Once in a lifetime. Something wonderful will happen. Genesis.
Thanks for trying this, saw/heard both when released, both the movie and the song are a trip unto themselves. We played Echoes as the last song every Saturday back in the day. The tune that starts the flip side of the Meddle album is also worth a listen, One of These Days is amazing in its own way. Enjoy! 🎵
"One of These Days" is off that album and the Pompeii performance of it shows the drummer Nick's style. It was played in most of the concerts i've watched, so definitely a fan favorite from their discography.
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I reacted to your content audio only Syed, knowing this rescore from memory and had the widest grin on my face in public. A reaction unbiased by nostalgia is a beautiful thing.
Interesting film. It was Kubrick's idea to make a film about extraterrestrials, and he wanted a book he could adapt for the film, so he commandeered the perfect guy: Artuur C Clarke. There are four books in the series, all which I have read. Interesting point about the film. It is, as you may know, very plodding and cumbersome, and because of this, it did not do well at the box office initially, with many walking out on the film. But over time, it and the books have become classics. Great stuff. Oh, btw, there's absolutely no intended connection between Floyd's music and any films, such as 2001: A Space Odyssey or The Wizard of Oz.
I think that last scene with the embryo interfaced with the earth signifies that humanity is about to enter its next giant leap in development.
It's a frankenstein story, about man playing god by trying to create artificial intelligence. (The "monster" in this movie is HAL.) So "God" shows up (in the form of an unseen alien) to show "man" (in the form of Dave Bowman) what a real god is capable of, and then to put "man" in purgatory (the room with no doors or windows) as punishment for his sin of hubris (playing god.) The last shot is Dave Bowman being reincarnated upon his death and sent back to earth, presumably with the message that, if you mess around with AI again, this alien/god/whatever-it-is is going to be pissed.
Richard Wright has a voice perfectly harmonic with David Glamour's
OK, WHEN I MADE MY EARLIER COMMENT I HADN'T FINISHED THE VIDEO!! NOW I AM AT THE 23:30 MARK AND I WANT TO SAY THAT I HAVE ALWAYS FELT A PRIMATIVE EARTH VIBE FROM ECHOES!! SO IT'S REALLY COOL THAT YOU MENTION THE MONKEY SOUNDS!! I ALWAYS THOUGHT OF THEM AS SOUNDS OF A PRIMATIVE JUNGLE!! AND WHEN YOU GO BACK TO THE LYRICS OF THE FIRST VERSE, "THE ECHO OF THE DISTANT TIME COME WILLOWING ACROSS THE SAND, AND EVERYTHING IS GREEN AND SUBMARINE!
AND NO ONE SHOWED US TO THE LAND AND NO ONE KNOWS THE WHERES OR WHYS, SOMETHING STIRS AND SOMETHING TRIES AND STARTS TO CLIMB TOWARD THE LIGHT!"
TO ME, THIS IS LIFE EMERGING OUT OF THE PRIMORDIAL SOUP!!!
I went to see a film in 1973 called Crystsl Voyager. It was a world champion surf rider filming with a camera on his back and going through the breaker tunnels. The filming was spectacular set to the pink floyd echoes. It's available on youtube. Worth a watch.
This is a marvelous coincidence that it matches up so well in its sounds. However, since to me Echoes is all about an ocean experience (talking about everything being green and submarine.,,and corals…and the sounds are so obviously whales speaking to one another….,and then you rise back to the surface at the end and hear seagulls and see the sun again) there is no connection to outer space IN THE LYRICS. Trippy music of course, but I would love to see Echoes put to a video of diving down deep in the ocean.
I have heard the music before and love it....but I've never seen it with this film...thank you for the experience and I enjoy your reactions so much....
In the live stage performance they have what seems like a spacecraft taking off and then a trail like its going through space and then landing somewhere, that was my interpretation
As far as I recall, David Bowman the astronaut didn't go into the infinite in the main mother ship "Discovery one". He was in an escape Pod (Eva pod). I always took the baby at the end (The Star Child) to be him reborn into a new evolution of mankind.
He's not doubling his vocals. That's Rick wright (keyboards) harmonizing with him. Crazy.
Another great reaction and this is something I have never seen before. Echoes is one of my favourite Floyd tracks. Gilmour’s Gdańsk show in 2006 was the last time that Echoes was played live. Gilmour said he would never play Echoes without Rick because it was always meant to be a conversation between the two of them. And what a poignant, transcendent and beautiful final conversation it was.
I spent MANY nights getting lost in this video, with the aid of certain substances, it'll blow your mind. The live at Pompeii version is unreal.
I think they turned it down to some of the film content and didn't want there music associated with it remember when that film came out and look at some of the scenes and themes of the movie you can understand why.
Yes too bad I didn't enter the live stream but I enjoyed the video nevertheless! Very eye-opening and inspirational production and professional analysis from yourself :)
Thanks Rob, maybe we'll catch you next time!
28:56 is my personal favorite and most perfect synchronization of this mash-up
Another fun Pink Floyd sync is "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" with the 1997 film "Contact."
LIVE in Pompei part 1 and 2.....awe inspiring.
So glad you found this!
No double tracking of voices ... check out "live" performance of "Echoes"... 🥰
more very dramatic songs/ stories
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The vocals were Gilmour and Richard Wright singing harmony as a duo, pretty much equal in volume
As well as the Kubrik film, which is iconic and my favourite of all time, Arthur C Clarke is the author of four novels depicting the story begun in this film. Some of the best Sci fi ever written.
My interpretation of the old man scenes is that the higher intelligence is showing him a new perspective, a new way to experience time. If time was a roll of film, we normally view it frame by frame, while they see the roll from the side, all the bits at once. In the start of the film, the monolith, this higher life form, taught the monkeys how to manipulate the physical realm (using bones as tools/weapons) and this is their next lesson.
There is a theory about meaning of the obelisk: We have small versions of it in our pockets, in our homes. It's a BLACK SCREEN, a vertical one like our smartphones. Obelisk it's a metaphore for technology. Through it we can evolve into higher levels of consciousness
It is Roger and Nick holding that groove around 11:00 not Gilmour
Check out the movie Zabriskie Point which some of Pink Floyd’s music was used in the film. The end credits is visually and musically fascinating. Come in No.51!
Someone once told me that the Gates of Delirium by Yes fits nicely with the last 15 minutes of Star Wars episode 4😊
"My God,....It's full of stars"........
They scored La valle (the valley) which is a French movie. Obscured by clouds in 1972 and in 1969 the More album was from some movie. They also did songs for zabriskie point. All these movies are hippie weird trippe 50 yearold films.stuff I loved 20-25-30 years ago and bought on vhs.
"Echoes" was originally titled "Return to the Sun of Nothing" - pretty trippy.
The weird keening death-cry in the middle bit is down to Gilmour plugging his guitar into an effect box the wrong way - happy accident.
On their album Meddle. Never saw Echoes played along with a movie. That's David and Rick Wright singing together. Please also check out Echoes live at Pompeii, 1971, parts 1 and 2. Thanks!
For me it's not "monkey noises" but "whale sounds". Echoes....everything is green and submarine....
Don't try to connect the song and the movie by all means.
In the end I think it's just a coincidence.
this is built out of pure refined AWSOME.
Gilmours voice is so soothing, like a sense of calming almost like a parents voice when you’re a baby
Check out the song mother from the wall!
Pure Genius...👍
this song is like a bridge between 60s floyd and 70s floyd
I'm a huge Floyd purist... Like I don't care for The Wall film. So, I never watched this before. It was very very very AMAZING.
Yes! Watch Live at Pompeii. It is all about the music
23:47 “I am you and what I see is me”
While echoes at pompeii is fabulous I personally prefer c echoes in ghdansk it will put the hairs up on the back of your neck I would have enjoyed your blog a lot more if you had played the music first without interruption and then commented if your a true lover of music the music always comes first
Too cool. Didn't even know this mash-up existed. Love your interpretations and insights. I always feel there is a lot of Richard Wright showcased in this piece, meaning the music. Where you heard monkeys I can see it in relation to the images the music is paired with. What I hear in that part of Echos is the deep oceans and whale songs and the wind. I have seen a David Gilmour interview where he describes Richard as "an old salt" in that he, Richard, loved the sea and got out on it whenever he could.
Time is a purely mortal construct. From the point of view of the universe time exists all at once, past present and future. I believe in the final scene you see some representation of that. The man isn't being reborn nor is he growing old. He has merely transcended time. Moved into some higher plane of consciousness where the construct of time as we know it has broken down and he now perceives everything all at once... as if a god. Or spirit perhaps? The fetus (starchild) represents that higher plane of consciousness. The monolith represents the progression of man at each stage of his existence on Earth. Its final appearance in the film coming at the moment he becomes pure spirit.
P.S. The sounds you hear that you attribute to monkeys, most of us hear as whales.... or some other oceanic creature.
"Strangers passing in the street by chance two separate glances meet"
In terms of doubling the vocal - one of the earlier users of that technique was John Lennon. His doubling made his voice sound mystical.
The Beatles in general double tracked. George Harrison has double tracked vocals on the "With the Beatles" album which came out in the early 60s
Back in 2015 I used to watch this video a lot. It even got taken down once and they reuploaded it or some other guy put in I don't remember that well.
Never heard this theory before but it makes some sort of weird sense... one of my favourite PF tracks, and also one of my all-time favourite movies - one of the most mysterious and (dare I say it) cosmic of all time. And some of those cuts were spookily coincidental with music and film (e.g., when the old Bowman is walking around the house... and his footsteps were pretty much in time with the beat, too) You should start exploring some of the crazy theories about Radiohead's music soon!
The old guy was the astronaut played by the same actor
Hey Syed, Next time you listen to this song, just as you get to the end of the first guitar solo and begin the groovy section DOUBLE the volume!!! You'll be impressed! It really rocks...
Roger's bass holding it down
Man, you catch all the details ! It's coming to the end of one's self/ego, man's achievements, going thru the Journey God intended and being re-born Spiritually EYES WIDE OPEN. Represent The Great Awakening. We have entered the Brave New World. Dave is a Child of God, Jesus' little brother.
ok if you consider that terry gillian directed fear and loathing in las vegas and that monty python and pink floyd are closely tied to each other and then play dark side of the moon along side the movie... seriously i am the only one who seems to get this but it's real... fear and loathing on the dark side of the moon.
I did this 20 odd years ago and it blew me away. Has anybody ever asked Roger if this was true? I know he was interviewed on Rogan recently and he said the Wizard of Oz connection was bullshit. Not so sure about Echoes.
Kubrick actually wanted to use Pink Floyd music from atom heart mother for A Clockwork Orange! But because Kubrick wanted to cut the song up to fit the movie so do to that the Pink Floyd band members would not allow the use of the actual song atom heart mother from the atom heart mother album. And as far as echoes Andrew Lloyd Webber borrowed so to speak the main riff from Echoes for Phantom of the Opera! Rodger Waters thought of suing him but it would have just been too much trouble period.
And as far as the movie with Dave the astronaut he grows old and then turns according to the book into What's called the Starchild. My wife actually read the book this movie was based on and what's going on is he's evolving to the next level as the Starchild. It's the next link so to speak because if you go watch the whole movie one day the movie starts out with Apes who are gathered together and one discovers how to use a weapon following the monolith showing up in their world so at that point when the ape discovers how to use a weapon Apes evolve and start becoming man. Each monolith in the movie is kind of like a breadcrumb with each evolution of Life following those breadcrumbs till they get to the monolith in space. Don't want to say too much and spoil the movie!
It’s esquísite. The timing of the stargate rocks
This album was the best stoner music ever made, I speak from experience.
I'd imagine by now,with so many people requesting the live at Pompei version, you have probably checked it out, when your jaw returns off the floor, tell us what you think mate👍
If you haven't done the live version of ECHOES POMPEII LIVE you are missing out big time...
Check out IMMINENCE-PARALYZED
Trust.
At the time clockwork orange was a seriously controversial film.
That ain't monkeys in the opening, they are apes. Also the sounds in Echoes are whale sounds (made with guitars), the song plays a lot with the "our ancestors came out of the oceans" aspect of evolution. But thanks for your ideas about the sperm and the egg, i never considered that.
Kubrick and Clarke had rather different interpretations of the meaning of 2001. Kubrick was very reluctant to discuss the matter and preferred to let the audiences make up their own minds.
Clarke, however, explained that, according to him, the film represented the ascension of man to the next evolutionary level of development.
This step needed the help of extraterrestrials to be achieved, which is why aliens planted the monolith on Earth in the first place.
When touched, the monolith imbued man with enough intelligence to understand the use of tools, and from there on, we were on our way!
The aliens gave us enough intelligence to develop ourselves to such a level that we'd be "ready" for the final step, which, according to Clarke, was to be reborn as a new, galactic entity.
This is where Kubrick and Clarke's interpretations differ. Kubrick had a more mystical and ambiguous reading of the meaning, where the "star child" was a benign being that represented
the ultimate in human growth and perhaps excellence. But Clarke saw things in a much more sinister way. According to him, the "star child" was actually a catalyst.
It may not be shown in the finished film, but when the embryo approaches Earth, its presence triggers the world's nuclear arsenals to go off and start WWIII.
Why? I guess because humanity finally encountered a lifeform more aggressive than itself?
props to Arthur C. Clarke
👉 _Dark Side Of Oz_ - the _Wizard Of Oz / Pink Floyd _Dark Side Of The Moon_ film mash-up. Easy to find on UA-cam. Glorious & highly recommended.
2001 wasn’t written to classical music, it was put down as a temporary track while editing, when it worked so well the score which was being written was dumped
Bowie's Space Oddity was based on this movie.
That’s Rick!
Bruh gotta watch live at Pompeii
If you think this is good, you should try........ The Dark Side Of Oz ! Its mad as a badger in a top hat !!!!! It syncs up so well even phrases match together.
At what point in the film do you start the album? It wasn’t the beginning.
Don't fall back to the Invisible Sky Fairy/God thing!
Too easy.
I think we're looking at a universal concept of time - the broken glass reminds us of entropy.
You should check out Stevie Ray Vaughan and watch something live from the El Mocambo now that you have dived into metal and see what Texas Blues is all about. Arguably the best guitarist ever and Stevie doesn't play guitar or music, it just comes out of him and that is why I say watch it live and you will understand what I mean. Subscribing to your channel now.
Can you even imagine how trippy this was in a movie theater back in 1968? I think that the younger folk.,,,many of whom were stoned, understood the movie at a basic level much better than the older “straight” people in the audience. Back then “straight” meant not stoned……
My English teacher at secondary school took the interested pupils to see this film when it was released in '68, I was 15. I've never forgotten that teacher.
The word you're looking for was intervene/intervention.
Perhaps you should bite into The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, go-to-woah. it's certainly an interesting mouthful…
All hail David Gilmour 🙌🏽
Do you want to know the meaning? Read the novel, '2001: A Space Oddessey' by Arthur C. Clarke. Kubrick does great movies from novels, but they do distort the book and the authors' intent. For example, he doesn't detail what the StarChild does as his first act. Another example is that Dr. Strangelove wasn't meant to be a comedy.