Slipknot - .5: The Gray Chapter ALBUM REVIEW
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- Опубліковано 2 лис 2014
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FAV TRACKS: SCARCASTROPHE, AOV
LEAST FAV TRACK: KILLPOP
SLIPKNOT - .5: THE GRAY CHAPTER / 2014 / ROAD RUNNER / ALTERNATIVE METAL, NU METAL
4/10
Y'all know this is just my opinion, right? What did you think of this album? Love it? Hate it? Why? What should I review next, eh?
Cal is throwin' up: • Video
Sorry for mispronouncing SCARCASTROPHE.
Fuck you Anthony
Hey man don't sweat it. I agree with you 100% actually. You worded perfectly the way I feel about this album. They're just not what they used to be.
it's ok, no worries, Customer Tortilla
Fun fact: pretty much all karaoke bars in Korea use the same song catalog... and there are literally 1000 of them in Seoul. Anyway, whoever was in charge of putting english language songs into the catalog had NO idea whatsoever about western music. As a result, all of IOWA, album tracks and all, is included alongside the Beatles and ABBA.
As someone who essentially grew up with this band as well (alongside korn, systemofadown, disturbed, etc.) I agree with you. self-titled, and Iowa, were very much their best, and its just been downhill ever since. One thing I was VERY dissapointed with (that I was kinda hoping you would touch upon, much to my dismay) this album was the awful production on it. how as a bad thats basically carried by the drums, guitar, vocals, theres basically no guitars!! theyre so low in the mix that the drums almost drown them out!! I know they have 3 members (2 guitars one bass) and on the recording, they all just mesh together in one, weak, bland sound. slipknot has been neutered. good thing we still have Anaal Nathrakth.
Killpop is about Corey Taylor's love/hate relationship with the music industry
yup, you are correct, great song too!
Ty Manning Kinda hard to connect that message with lyrics like "DIE AND FUCKING LOVE ME."
Good Vibrations He said it in an interview.
Ty Manning still sounds cheesy and emo as fuck
DelinquentDJ You have wrong band if you want cheesy emo lyrics lol
"their self titled album is the most hardcore shit on the planet"
We´ve all been there... :D
👍🍀👋♔
It still does sound hardcore... Even compared to shit like Veil of Maya, and Born of Osiris. It's just a different kind of hardcore. The screams are a bit less jarring, but the percussion and the frantic pace of every song on that album, coupled with the really dark atmosphere keep it from being dated. That album is an absolute masterpiece.
Absolutely. Nailed it. I hate how melon makes it sound like that album isn't "hardcore" anymore. That album feels more real to me now than it did when I was 13
Dennis Reynolds I got the ORIGINAL original 1999 on vinyl, the one w purity, and I think that version makes a more complete album. And I just got Iowa, and man does it sound different on vinyl.
I really hate their first album but love a lot of their other stuff.
Not sure why Nu Metal has this stigma that you have to an angry teenager again just to enjoy it?
Drew Jackson jesus christ
Yeah! Fuck that weak ass," gotta be like this or remember when we all used to" bullshit!
ModPallet Nostalgia
Because it's gimicky and ugly.
@Blade Of Fury Slipknot is nu-metal and the opinion of Corey Taylor is irrelevant.
"YOU CAN'T SEE CALIFORNIA WITHOUT MARLON BRANDOS EYES👀👀👀"
I am my father's son but he's a phantom, a mystery and that leaves me nothing!
Jack Miller How many times have you wanted to die?
***** IT'S TOO LATE FOR ME - ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GET RID OF ME!!!!!
You can't see California without marlon brando's eyes. YOU. CAN'T. SEE. CALIFORNIA. WITHOUT. MARLON BRANDO'S EYES!
***** they're from the S/T and Iowa.
I just dont get the internets hate towards melodic singing in metal. Like not everyone enjoys slipknot or a disturbed or an avenged sevenfold because "its the heaviest music they know" but rather they just enjoy the blend of melodic vocalization over metal instrumentation. Why is that SO weird to people? Its not like its straight pop hooks or, god help me, rap verses over the instrumental. Its just traditional singing. Whats so off putting about that??
I know a band that has "pop hooks" and "rap verses" over the music without even coming across as radio friendly at all. Listen to "Skylines" by Painted in Exile. I actually really like that band but I'm sure you won't like it. Listening to the whole thing is quite an experience though.
Other bands have mixed them better - Scar Symmetry, Soilwork, Mercenary for starters.
For me, I feel like when Slipknot tries to go soft, they just sound too much like Stone Sour, and I didn't listen to Slipknot to hear Stone Sour, I listened to Slipknot to hear Slipknot. Hell, That latter half of that collab Corey did with Tech N9ne sounded more like a Slipknot song to me than most actual Slipknot songs from their past 2 albums. There's this one fanmade mashup of Eminem's Not Afraid mixed with Devil in I that got me hyped as fuck like old Slipknot used to do [at least the first two verses of it] ... when this is happening, to someone who remembers their old sound and spent their high school days nearly addicted to the shit, something's up with Slipknot's direction.
tbh, I always got the impression that they tried to impress metal people by ripping away and downplaying their hip hop roots, and that killed a lot of what musical uniqueness they had, and turned them into some generic parody of their former selves.
If this is because they strictly used the music as their therapy, and the shittier quality of music means they're in better emotional places/mental states now, then, hey, I'm glad for 'em, I wouldn't want to know that they gave us those two great first albums and just keep suffering and there's just no end to it, no reward, no nothing for them after all their hard work.... I'm glad they have people who love their new shit, so they can keep living off of it and can enjoy their lives; they deserve that and I'm happy for them and hope all the continued success in the world to them, because no matter how shit I think their new stuff is [which is often just 'meh'], they still gave the world those first two albums and nothing can take them away.... but that doesn't change the fact that their music has suffered in some fans' eyes possibly because of the better place that they're in now.
And it's not about the melodic singing - Opeth's melodic bits were wonderful and loved how Mikael mixed his cleans and harshes and I'm sad to hear his harshes go because I loved how they sounded; the same way I'd have been sad to hear his cleans go away if he decided to go heavier and just do all teh br00tal kvlt deth metulz. Ever since Alissa White-Gluz joined Arch Enemy and people found out she can sing really well, people bemoan the fact that she hasn't done so in Arch Enemy and wants Arch Enemy to do incorporate that. I'd say her starting a new band where she can sing would be a better option, since Arch Enemy has a multiple decades' long history of being totally harsh vocals; but the point is, there are fans who _want_ Arch Enemy to go more melodic so Alissa can show off her clean chops, so I don't think this argument is an accurate one to make.
Slipknot's attempts to do slower stuff, if it's not like the creepy, serial killer/stalker/suicidal/fucked up in the head shit, tends to fall flat. Kudos to them for trying, but they aren't that great at it, especially when you compare it to just how well they could channel pure venting, cathartic rage full of fuck everyone, I don't give a fuck I'm going to fucking survive and no matter how much the world tries, no one can fucking stop me. The stubborn determination; the energy... it feels really really genuine and sincere and just absolutely oozes personality, even if it's not the most impressive musically or lyrically. What they lacked in those areas, they made up for with their delivery, imo. So when they take that attitude away, they're left with mediocrity at it's most bleh.
It has everything to do with quality. Power metal thrives on the interplay of melodic vocals with really deft compositions. Disturbed and A7X seem to dumb them both down to appeal to the mainstream
@@TheKarret Really interesting comment. I know its forver ago you posted this. I believe Slipknot went softer like bands like Metallica have because it's vocally exhausting to do those vocals for so long. I believe it's why Taylor went to Stone Sour so much because it's give his voice a break. There's a channel that talks about his vocal changes especially on Subliminal Verses where he went into higher register. And also how he became less comprehensible as time went on from live audio. So they take large breaks to save his voice, I guess. Personally I wasn't big on this album before but now I love the singles and a lot of the deep cuts. I don't know what it is but I dig their later material a lot more like Subliminal Verses. The first song may be my favorite. Before I Forget I'm still not crazy about because it reminds me of a bluesy Metallica song or something but the rest I like. Rick Beato did a video on Duality that made me appreciate it more. I still love the first album the most with the industrial sound and chaotic nature and how the sampling and turntables are prominent as can be. Anyways, enjoyed your comment in the break downs even if I don't agree I like the analysis. I think they still have rap elements but their isn't this obvious rap delivery. It's more scattershot than methodical so it can just be seen as metal more than hip hop. But yeah. I feel that's them at their best.
@@MistyDusker It's possible that he does it to save his voice; IIRC, he totally shot his voice while touring for Iowa because he didn't do it the right way and I think that Melissa Cross lady helped him learn a safer way to growl, but that initial voice bust is what lead to Vol 3 having a lot of softer vocals and more vocal experimentation, I think. Vol 3 has some solid tracks, I'll admit, I listened to that album a lot, too, I just then steered back to their first two albums a lot more.
Thanks man, glad you enjoyed it. It's fine to disagree. Yeah it's not as prominent as it used to be, which I personally liked more.
I disagree about the turntables I thought some of the dj parts were the best parts
+nicholas biddle I think they give a more strange and unpredictable sound.
They were utilized much better on Slipknot's self-titled album back in the 90s. (sic) is probably the best example.
Dennis Reynolds what about Surfacing in the same album?
ZipsionForever yeah. I still think this album was pretty shitty though
Getting tired of all these "Slipknot is for kids that haven't discovered true metal yet, I listen to deathgrindmetalbendertrashsmashmouthcore, that's true metal". Well get back in line, I listen to sonic booms from flying jets and space shuttle launches both at close distance live in concert, my ear drums have never recovered, now that's true metal, people who listen to anything else are 3 year olds that haven't grown up and discovered the real heavy music. Might come as a shock, but most people don't judge the quality of music in any genre by how heavy it is. It can still be terrible if it's the heaviest of heavy, and great if it's as "light" as can be.
If someone personally prefers their metal to be as heavy as possible, and "measure" the quality of it as subjectively good after that, that's completely fine. The problem comes when such a person insists that everything less heavy automatically qualifies as subpar and that what they listen to is the pinnacle of music and has to constantly say/type it out it to validate their superior musical taste and downplay everyone/everything else, that's just called being an elitist douche.
'Note that this is not a jab at the video itself or anyone in particular, it's more of a general statement.'
Ye
Smashmouthcore™
Smashmouthcore is my favorite genre
Very well put. Couldn't agree more.
Oh my God shut the fuck up, Slipknot fucking sucks, listen to Deftones or Tool
"Slipknot can't do sad well" *stares in Snuff and Vermilion*
Snuff is cringe, Vermillion is nice!
@@ArcticChonk what?
@@goodtimesnum What?
@@ArcticChonk cuz it ain’t 2015 anymore, it’s not cringe to have emotions.
@@Kona4404 it's cringe when it's over the top :P
I'm 37 and grew up with all of the metal offerings of the 80's, yet I love Slipknot, and I love this album. All this talk of
"you just haven't heard heavier music" is bullshit. Sure there is heavier music but for the more commercial side of metal Slipknot are doing just fine.
I think he was saying that to him personally after hearing heavier stuff slipknot were cast aside as the extremity was a lot of the appeal, I don't think he mean't that as a blanket statement
I see you are a man of better culture (Deftones Pf)
Also happy belated 40th birthday?
ohh the deftones self titled, that is good taste right there
nice pfp, best deftones album
Personally, I thought Killpop was awesome
so did i
Your profile picture confuses me.
Internet Anarchist™ same
It's not even about a girl either, it's about the music industry.
It's not that the song is bad, it just felt like Slipknot tried really hard to be something they're not.
People can be way too pretentious towards Slipknot
+9LivesGamer And I will never understand why.
+9LivesGamer I don't think it's really pretentious to dive into an album and dissect it, but if I get what you're saying, I think you mean that people who review Slipknot should know that it's not going to break barriers and go far and beyond a run of the mill Slipknot nu-metal album. In that respect, I sort of agree. But like Anthony said, it's just so hard to go back to Slipknot after listening to other bands. I understand them getting a decent 4. I would have probably gone worse myself, but I'm not a UA-cam reviewer.
Well, in a way....Slayer has released the same album for 25 years. But people never rag on them.
NO DEPTH in their sound. I love Slayer, but there is ZERO variation. I call it like I see it.
sydIRISH Slayer is like the Ramones of trash
Rodrigo Garcia That's the truest statement I've ever heard
i luv when u self-consciously geek out about songs you're embarrassed to like its so cutethony mantano
lol
Senpaithony Kawaiitano
I don´t care what everybody says,I LOVE THIS ALBUM
Tsutsukakushi Tsukiko anthony is def drunk for sure, all the magazines n shit that reviewed the gray chapter gave excellent reviews
opinion is opinion
Then keep on loving it!
Justin malcom So a bunch of magazines say its good so it must be good right?
***** NOPE
Lmao half the time you just talked about your history with your taste in the band.
anthony igavedamna7tano
Coming from the future to tell you that he did the exact same thing with his WANYK review, lmao
Just like bands having bad albums, Melon has bad reviews as well. I love the man, and am not really a Slipknot fan nowadays, but I still stand by this comment and the notion that every now and then, Fantano doesn't really have anything constructive to say on some reviews, and his opinion is not the end all be all.
Duality is still a great video
I hear that brother..
And a great song
Anthony liked grindcore at one point????
Dislike.
Unsub.
1 star on yelp.
Light to decent 2/10.
Why the hate for grindcore?
I like grindcore CURRENTLY!
If you don´t like grindcore you are a piece of shit and your father should be ashamed
Miguel Tremblay You should probably step away from your computer, you seem to be a little angry.
LilithImmacualte who gave you the permission to tell me what to do ? Shut the fuck up mind your own business piece of shit.
Iowa is the best Slipknot album. 👌😎
I always thought Iowa was their best too. I thought their first album was good but the second was way heavier & less commercial. The album after that sucked. And hated Stone Sour. Have not listened to them since.
Alexander MR I don't think it's that bad of record. I love the guitar tone, and Cory Taylor's vocals are fucking great on that record. I've always enjoyed the way taylors voice transition from his heavy growl to his cleans. I mean it's not really that heavy of a record or anything lol, but I still enjoy it and think it's one of the better things to come out of the whole nu metal thing. But there are some pretty terrible tracks that just have no appeal to it but it's an alright record in my opinion.
jigan001 99 is better
+J.J. Decay I liked Vol 3 the best :(
My Ranking of Slipknot Albums BEST to WORST:
1. Iowa
2. Slipknot
3. .5: the Gray Chapter
4. Vol. 3 (The Subliminal Verses)
5. All Hope is Gone
i feel that the kind of sorrowy sound made sense seeing as this album along with many songs on the album are about Paul Gray (their late bassist) and about how they dealt with his passing
i meant to add album dedicated to Paul
Nice profile pic
strange he never mentioned that actually. The title is a dead giveaway.
I love the fact that the whole album represents. The struggles of the death of Paul Grey, they don't need to be menacing. They don't need to be how they always were, I'd rather have a good band create different stuff. they make a wide variety of concepts and emotions. I've felt a ton of different feeling and emotion in the songs.
Man we have some real edgy people in the comments. "OMG Slipknot is 4 poser 12yo's not evn BR00TAL get on my l3git level of music taste!!"
Who cares? I listen to anything from 80's pop to Meshuggah, and I still really enjoyed this record. Do I agree with this review? No. Does that make either me or Bananthony wrong? No. His view on the album is just different to mine (though I do wish he reviewed it better, he only really covered like 4 songs briefly) People have different tastes in music, you guys need to get off your high horse.
***** Metalheads can be the edgiest of hipsters at times, if your music doesn't reach a certain level of underground then you're labeled a 12 year old poser. I honestly feel bad for people who can't appreciate music for what it is and has to turn it into a pissing contest.
*****
Yea. you basically just proved his entire point. And THAT quote is actually nothing more than a generalization based off someone who sees music as some kind of competition rather than an art form. Now please enlighten me about how fake I am for being an open-minded objective person simply because it is contrary to your personal tastes and overall perception of music. dying to hear it.
What's "edgy" mean?
-_- yes dude, that was my point. Just because music "tastes" are subjective doesn't necessarily mean that someone that attempts to approach it in an objective way is 'trying to dictate what is good or bad'. btw, who said ANYTHING about it being a fact?? now your just putting words in my mouth. Whether that's because of your general dislike of my approach or not is irrelevant because you're still ignorant for labeling objective views on music as "immature self-interest". You're all about labels and comparisons - see, I can put words in people's mouth as too! c'mon man...
Right. And for you to assume that someone who attempts to be objective must be automatically trying to state their opinion as fact rather than simply making an observation, is STILL ignorant. By coming to this conclusion, you are assuming that you KNOW what makes a song good or bad and are also suggesting that you know what suits my tastes without even knowing who I am. And you're right: objective means you are not influenced by personal feelings, opinions when representing facts...here's the issue, YOUR STANCE CANNOT BE CONSIDERED AS FACT EITHER. not only that, but just because you disagree with my approach doesn't mean you can somehow subvert my opinion into bias simply because you 'personally' feel that your tastes/opinion has more credence than mine. I appreciate the research you did, but you aren't telling me anything that I don't already know
I see a lotta comments who say "After listening this group or this band, why would you go back to Slipknot ?"
Because music is not a leveling contest.
You listen what you like, not what's the most hardcore or some shit like that.
You listen the music who's making you emotional, in any way. Angry, happy, sad, delighted, whatever the feeling.
I think that Slipknot has, on this wonderful album, gave the definition of "Controlled rage". They know what to say and how, being fucking angry against anything but not without reason. It's like a mental breakdown after you discover one of your friend dead in his bedroom after an overdose. You feel lost, depressed, furious, everything at the time and sometimes you're making some serious mistakes. You're hurting yourself, you're drinking, making yourself as high as you can be. But them, those motherfucking guys found a way to express their loss without hurting people or themselves. They threw up their rage right in front of us and said "Taste it and tell me how you feel into your heart."
I love this album, even if it's not a pure core one, or a fucking doomy one. I love it because they extinguish my rage and frustration. Because they're very good musicians and composer, and even if I let go of them a long time ago, they found me again.
agreed
It’s been 7 years, I listened to this albums months ago, came back to it. Wanted to see it’s rating because I fucking loved it. Checked Album of the Year and saw Fantano’s rating. I love that this comment explains music perfectly (specifically some of the metal heads). I haven’t gone down the rabbit hole for metal but this is good music. Whether or not people think it’s not this or that. Music was never a competition.
You could say it sounds... korny.
There oldest album us the most nu metal. That is actually the closest to old korn
Hadrimon I'm upset
Ok that was actually good. Nice puns
Get out
*KoRn...y
Even after discovering hardcore, mathcore, grindcore, deathgrind, melo death, tech death, etc, Slipknot have still ended up being my favourite band, fucking loved this album to pieces but to each his own I can understand why someone might not enjoy it
But... but how? In order to appreciate those genres you need to know their heritage/significance and immediately when you take that approach you see Slipknot as what it is: an easily accessible starter band. The stuff I listen to now would’ve blown my 11 year-old mind or just sounded like noise. I respect Slipknot or getting me into metal but I have no reason to listen to one of their songs again.
Water bear - yes those are even genres.
Deathgrind? We have come full circle
cheese burger Yeah. I don’t know how anyone could prefer Slipknot to the entire genre of death metal
I've listened to Traditional Heavy Metal, some Prog Metal, Tech/Brutal Death Metal, Industrial Metal, Stoner Rock/Metal, some Thrash Metal, but I still like to go back to Slipknot and just enjoy myself when I hear their stuff with the hate & stuff that they get filtered out of my mind.
Slipknot is also kinda far from being my first metal band, I've heard metal/rock as far as I can remember (that wasn't Slipknot) and I love Slipknot more nowadays compared to when I first started hearing their stuff.
LOVE your intros with Cal! :-D
Really liked your review and everything you had to say, for me the old slipknot still sounds amazing despite getting it extreme music like you described, its still raw and aggressive. I also really like Volume 3, after years of not liking it i gave it a listen again and i think they got the balance with the stone sour influences just right but since then they have lost touch with their original sound.
It seems like you're everywhere.
xisumavoid? theneedledrop? hmmm
wasnt expecting to see you here
Yeah man everyones too harsh on Vol 3, it is arguably top 3 Slipknot albums man
I believe you mean SARcastrophe...
Loved this album though. Then again, I don't have nearly as much with heavier music as you so I respect your opinion as always.
Ok
The comments of this video may have just given me cancer
+Rhys Morgan fucking same
Rhys Morgan You mean the “ Slipknot sucks dick. End of discussion.” or “This guy can’t review music for shit.”?
@@davdav3350 Both.
vermilion pt. 2 tho was so good.
Wasn't on this album
It was and is. A song about obsessing over a person who you have built up to epic proportions in your own mind who doesn't in reality match your fantasy is something I've definitely done. That song reflects that scenario to a T.
Yeah, but he mentions how he got out of Slipknot partially because of Vol. 3.
Vol 3 was my favourite actually
Vol. 3 is their 2nd best album imo
Just like Anthony, I was once a major Slipknot fan back in their self-titled and Iowa days, and just like Anthony, I've since over the years gravitated towards more extreme genres, such as Death Metal, Black Metal, Grindcore, Doom, Sludge, etc. But I've always held a certain respect for Slipknot, not only as (mostly) talented musicians, but as a wonderful gateway band for people to discover heavier and more aggressive styles of music, as a lot of Slipknots earlier material contains elements of many heavier styles within their sound. I've read many times that during the time period between the self-titled and Iowa, they were taking a lot of influence from Death Metal, Black Metal, Grindcore and Thrash, and combining elements of all those genres with their Alternative Metal/Nu-Metal style, as well watching interviews where band members spoke of Nasum, Absu, Morbid Angel and Acid Bath as influences on their sound (Plus, Joey Jordison once toured North America with Satyricon when Frost couldn't get into the country because of passport issues). That being said, I most certainly can understand how somebody may not enjoy Slipknots music. It's not for everybody. The angst, and some of the lyrics can sometimes be a little much. But I still get a kick out of a lot of their old material, though, and still respect them as artists. Maybe if I hadn't gotten into Slipknot all those years ago, I wouldn't have discovered all the great bands and genres I enjoy today. Regardless, that's just my two cents, hahaha
This is a 7 minute long video titled "Slipknot - .5: The Gray Chapter ALBUM REVIEW", 4 minutes of it talks about a select few of some of Slipknots older songs.
The video should be titled, "A vague, brief review of some of Slipknot's older songs, and a vague brief review of some of Slipknot's new songs"
Pretty fucking much shit review
@@BlackDevilGamer138 Thank you, 'Black Devil Gamer'
WHY WONT YOU REVIEW TOOL DAMMIT !
Tools Lateralus is possibly one of the best albums created in the past three decades no shit
Totally agree. Idk why he wont review one of their albums. Aenima would be awesome.
He doesn't review albums that came out a while back. He only reviews albums that are new
MongolHorde69 But he recently reviewed In utero by nirvana and that came out in the 90s and he also recently reviewed a Bowie album that was released 1972.
MongolHorde69
That is not true.
I thought this album was one of their best. The lyrical content combined with the anguish of losing Paul come through in a way that makes for a kick-ass record.
I'm so happy I never got those tattoos of all those bands I enjoyed as a teenager.
I so strongly underestimated how much of a bad idea a teen music taste tattoo can be.
Totally random. Sorry.
Random but totally agree. I feel bad for everyone who got a Lostprophets tattoo the most though.
Adam Lindholm yooo my friend was shuffling his music while we were riding around and a lostprophets song came on. everyone died
I got a Keywork tattoo from Coheed and Cambria. Still Among the Fence. But then there's the Hatchetman...
Adam Lindholm Well,I might be in minority, but I think that their first record (and literally only first) is pretty great.I don't know, production on that album just has some chill vibes around it.
Mickey Akerfeels well for me the whole child abuse thing makes the vibe a little less chill
I too thought Killpop was about a woman BUT Corey came out and said it's about the music industry and not a woman.
Waas but it was executed in the form of a breakup song because that's what sells and they're all about the money.
Ok buddy, don't care.
Waas LIke it sed "kill pop".....corey says he hates pop music nowadays
+Dominic Henry but Slipknot is pop music nowadays... how does that even works?
The Chratheostic Lmao alrite buddy
Since Iowa has sweetened there sound you say... well it makes sense considering they were all beyond fucked up and drugged out during that album that it's there most hardcore.. But I'll always love the band cause this is as hardcore as I need to go.. Black and Death metal to me really are not appealing at all but just my opinion
Be'lakor. That is all.
I get he's giving an honest review. but the album was written in the context of a tribute to Paul Gray. The dramatic sad and some of the more unusual tracks might've been someone of his ideas before passing away. Furthermore, the album was a way for the band's respective grief to flow unchallenged. whilst yes its not overly memorable. in the context the album was written it should've gotten more than a 4 out of respect. i do not agree with this review.
you gave katy perry's new album of audio pollution a better score than this?!
Nothing new under this blue sky...Internet is full of this new 'grown up', smart adults with their egoistic 'impeccable' music tastes and with statements like they listened Slipknot when they were angry teenagers...but now they listen only'real' music. Yeah, right! Iowa, Vol.3 and especially Tours from 1999 - 2006 were Slipknot amazing years, but people still don't appreciate that. Slipknot didn't aged well? LoL, they aged better then 99% of that so called 'new metal' genre from 2000 till this days.
I agree 100% so what if there's harder stuff out there, slipknot are a unique sounding band that's why I'll always like them AS WELL AS heavier stuff
I'll listen to slipknot over black metal any fuckin day. grown up music my ass lol
+Gospodin Setembrini Yeah people need to judge the music on the ACTUAL and seeing what it is trying to accomplish. People need to stop comparing one type of music to other types of music.
I know I'm very late here, what it being a month at all, but guys... y'all know it's just an OPINION, right?
Since when did anyone make any mention of "real" or "fake" music either? That was never incorporated within the video, and tastes change overtime, with that your opinion on the music you used to listen to - obvious logic.
Overall I would have to give your collective arguments a light to decent 2 because I'm a nice person but not nice enough.
This is what happened: teen Anthony loved Slipknot. Then high school graduate Andy went to college. There he met a bunch of people who laughed at his peasant taste when he said he liked Slipknot. "No", they said, "here is REALLY good music". And some of it WAS good music that he hadn't been introduced to before. But instead of both accepting new music into his life and standing up for his old music against the "smart set", college Anthony caved because he wanted to fit in with his, as he saw it, intellectual betters. Also, college girls are generally not into Slipknot, so he had to show a more sensitive side if he wanted to get laid. Basically, college Anthony adopted the way of thinking that the "oh-so-hip" kids he met had: that Slipknot was gauche, especially (gasp!) their lyrics,, which were often "problematic". Basically, Anthony turned into kind of a douche.
The reason why TheGrayChapter is more "sad" is because Paul Gray died in 2010 so the album was made because of his death.
4/10!!! Really??
0909kedde Well deserved.
no
Yes. This album is shit, it's 2/10 material, nothing more.
Ok. Then go listen to justin bieber...his albums probably a 10/10 from your opinion.
0909kedde
Nope, but Slipknot and Justin Bieber are both making pop, so I understand why he is the second reference in music that you have.
Also, i'm ususally not judging tastes in music, but yours seems really really poor.
I love this album. And vol. 3 is my favorite slipknot album.
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Quallum we all know you are...
This album is fucking brilliant!!
You want Slipknot to be hard as fuck like black metal bands and that's never going to happen. Slipknot has a large music variation so you should judge them by their music not by what you want them to be.
What.
Yes it is me Jesus Christ your argument is invalid fuck off
+Yes it is me Jesus Christ your argument is invalid haha Jesus just fuck off and mind your own business, I won't explain what it's already explained.
Erick Villalba Hour argument sucks. He doesn't hate it because it's not hard enough. H hates it because it's corny, edgy and overall crap.
+Yes it is me Jesus Christ your argument is invalid seriously dude? haha sounds like you're so mad over an argument (my opinion). Have you ever taken debate classes? do you know that you can't argue against an opinion? No? Okay sounds good, thanks for your opinion.
People=Shit is their best song. That one & Disasterpiece
I know the party is over. But this is my favorite Slipknot album. It delivers a great dark atmosphere throughout. Bringing not just rage but other dark emotions like grief and self loathing. I think it to be their most emotional album. I enjoy most songs on here and can sit through the less stellar ones with ease. A few of their songs like Butchers hook. Just isnt fun to sit through.
Slipknot's first two albums have a sweet spot in my heart, especially when I'm, say, stuck in traffic or otherwise irrationally angry. There's a certain catharsis in (safely) giving into the juvenile rage those albums have from time to time. Vol. 3 is transitional. I do recommend All Hope is Gone; it's a solid album. I'm not sure I even listened to this album all the way through. It just never connected for me, but I could never put my finger on why.
i think the title track on ahig is one of their best songs
I feel bad for people that can't understand Slipknot.
I feel bad for people that can’t go beyond Slipknot
@@dan_the_pathmaster7934 Slipknot is my fav band and still I can go beyond their music. Discover how dumb you are
Honestly, I quite fancied the album.
I've always thought that Slipknot were the go-to band for people who know nothing about Metal; it's the "heaviest" music they know.
I disagree.
Jay Mazella Let's agree to disagree then. To be honest (I know I'm gonna get a ton of hate for this) I've never gotten what made Pantera any better than lame alternative metal bands aside from the lack of clean singing most of the time and Dimebag Darrel's BADASS guitar playing & tone. I mean, Phil Anselmo's vocals to me especially give off the vibe of those kinds of bands.
Well, when it comes to metal. I don't really like music that is much heavier than Slipknot. That being said, is there a band that you can recommend that is just as heavy as Sliknot, but has better songwriting skills and are just better as musicians?
I never really saw Pantera in the same vain as Slipknot; one's a well-respected all-American Metal act that helped develop the genre, one's entry-level 'heavy' music.. although I do believe Slipknot were one of the better bands to come from the Nu-Metal movement. Also, I've always thought Anselmo's vocals were more Southern Rock sounding, plus Pantera have a lot more groove. Hell, I have the riff from 'Walk' creeping into my head as I type this.
And Alexis: Good question. It's actually quite hard to draw any viable comparisons, I think maybe Machine Head or System of a Down would be what you're looking for. Although SOAD have an eccentricity about them that most would agree isn't conventional for Metal, (which is awesome).
Is it just me or did these guys pull a Metallica and forget that they still have a bassist despite losing a friend? Zero bass frequencies.
Pulling a Metallica this is now an official term !
Metallica were not the first ones with that problem. It's actually a pretty recurring problem in metal, because some guitar players like their guitars with way too much bottom end, and end up taking the space of the bass (and sometimes also leave a pretty big gap of mid range frequencies empty). I for one am more of a fan of the way Kurt Ballou from Converge does that sort of thing. He actually keeps his guitars mainly in the mid range, allowing them to not be too distorted while still being really heavy and then all of the bottom end goes to the bass, which is divided between a cleaner bass amp and a more overdriven guitar amp. If you take a listen to some of the latest Converge albums, you'll notice that what makes the songs sound so heavy are the drums and the bass and not the guitars.
Andre Isidro "If you take a listen to some of the latest Converge albums, you'll notice that what makes the songs sound so heavy are the drums and the bass and not the guitars." That's how Hardcore Punk, before and after Converge is dude. As opposed to the Death, Black, Thrash genres of Metal where it's just GuitarGuitarGuitar, in HxC/Punk the guitar often compliments the drum and bass instead of crowding over it.
You must be deaf. You do know that there's a bass solo (a first for Slipknot) on this record and they didn't even have to crank up the volume, right?
SuperMario16bit Sure! And the reason I mentioned Converge was because I'm more into hardcore than into metal, but still, not only Converge has a lot of metal elements to it, but Kurt also uses the same kind of techniques in most metal bands e produces, like Skeletonwitch, or Kvelertak.
I would think "growing up" and realizing that your teen self was a bit of a blockhead would cause you to reevaluate your dismissal of Vol. 3. Yet you seem to hold on to your teenaged notion that metal bands are not allowed to do reflective or sorrowful music unless it's at 180 beats per minute. You should surely realize by now that AGGRESSION is only one facet of a man and that a complete person has a myriad of feelings. A band is simply a collection of people, so I think you should be a bit more willing to allow diversity in output from musicians. Changing the dynamics with each song, having actual peaks and valleys throughout an album, is just smart record-making. And if you give Carly Rae Jepsen's trite pop an 8, then it's kind of hard to take any other rating that you give seriously.
Joe Como It's not that he doesn't like sorrowful music, it's that he thinks slipknot is bad at that. Plus pop and metal albums have completely different standards of quality.
I would say that you have never grown up if you still think that nu metal and stuff is not all about aggression
Except I'm not talking about "nu metal", I'm talking about a specific album from a specific band. Go and listen to Slipknot Vol. 3. Besides the usual, hardcore, yes, aggressive stuff, there's also quieter, contemplative songs. It surprised me, especially after the rawness of their first 2 albums. That's why Vol. 3 was a successful album to me.
Joe Como Anthony does allow bands to diversify their sound. He just thinks slipknot doesn't do soft well. For example, when he reviewed bones' uselesss, he praised the pummeling unrelenting bass and the bloodcurdling screams and said that that song went hard af. Then in the same review of the same album, he said one of the songs was really pretty, dainty light music. Another example is his review of deafhaven's sunbather. He liked both their fast black metal shrieked vocal songs and their pretty piano acoustic instrumental songs.
Fair enough.
This comment section is pure cancer.
One thing I don't get from seeing the comments - Slipknot is apparently just for angry 15 year olds, but bands that explore the same musical themes in an even heavier way are mature? Nah, just because heavier bands are out there doesn't effect Slipknot at all. Its the same with Dragonforce...people think they're just for kids, but I didn't just drop listening to them for Rings of Saturn because they play even faster. Personally, I think Rings of Saturn are far too over the top, similarly to how I like Slipknot but not Cannibal Corpse. It's all about personal taste, not just the stereotypical emotions of age that define one's likeness of a band, or where they are on the "heavy" or "fast" spectrum. Slipknot and Dragonforce have a style that speaks to me.
Here's the progression of age coinciding with music taste - Slipknot ---> Cannibal Corpse ----> Between the Buried and Me ----> Jazz ----> Slipknot.
I'm just using those things as examples, but basically, people start off with something immature, then they find a more extreme version of that immature thing. Then they find a more mature version of that extreme thing. Over time people start to feel like they've outgrown the gateway bands and then they find their way back to them. I used to think Metallica was awesome, then I hated them, and now I think they're awesome. Eventually when people actually do mature, they're willing to admit "I like Slipknot!" or in my case "I like Metallica!" When you're mature you can like Korn or Weird Al or pop music or Jazz or Extreme Metal or experimental stuff and it doesn't matter because you are mature enough to accept something for what it is instead of rejecting it for what it isn't. Also funny story my friend from high school is in Rings of Saturn. I also don't really care for their music.
"Heavy" doesn't mean anything.
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Any word means whatever you want it to. If you define heavy in music terms as "slow and low" as my family does, then the heaviest song would be pretty terrible. If you define it as dynamics of aggressive/intense music as I do, then the heavier bands around would be something like Between the Buried and Me, Dillinger Escape Plan, Mastodon, etc. If you choose not to define it then nothing is "heavy".
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That's quite an astute description of the two styles that people define "heavy" as being with regard to music. "If you define heavy in music terms as 'slow and low' as my family does, then the heaviest song would be pretty terrible." This is also quite astute. However, you failed to apply the same logic to your description of aggressive and intense. If one defines the heaviest music as "slow and low," it becomes a constant sub frequency murmur. If one defines the heaviest music as aggressive and intense, the heaviest music would devolve/evolve into a constant noise. " If you choose not to define it then nothing is 'heavy'." Of course and that's my point; everyone is correct, so it's a pointless discussion. It's subjective and it doesn't mean anything. "Hey, I put this sine wave through my rig and it's so much heavier than Slipknot."
"Any word means whatever you want it to." With regards to the word "heavy" in the context of our discussion here, yes, but mostly no.
Inline Downhill Vancouver Actually you're wrong about the last part. Words mean whatever you want them to mean but communication with others is relative to a mutual understanding. Connotation proves this point as many people can see negative implications in words that have an agreed upon denotative meaning but different connotations depending on the audience or speaker. We have to all agree upon terms to discuss anything and language barriers are the ultimate problem in any discussion that has them. The only reason we can even talk to each other right now is because we both agree to use English. But while heavy has a definition in the dictionary, it also has been agreed upon as a term to use for music. There is no music term dictionary besides music theory which doesn't extend that far. As a result "heavy" is a slang term and the "heavy" bands are whatever the individual wants them to be. I didn't define aggressive or intense because my definition of heavy wasn't relevant to the point I was making so I summarized.
Either way semantics arguments are mostly worthless except to break up the language barrier and since you don't define heaviness as a musical term and since I define it in a different way than many people would, there's really not much of a discussion to be had here. So, how's the weather?
i hate how slipknot fans just CAN'T deal with opinions. you can literally just say you're no fan of them and they'll get all hormonal, it's pathetic.
I'm a Slipknot fan, and I respect people's opinions, but I'm seeing that from both sides, it seems like no one knows what the word "subjective" is here.
Lin Yao umm What You Dont Get it You Never Been Made Of Or Kicked Or Shoved For Being Different!!
I thought the turntables made sarcastrophe even cooler
.....I WAS THROWIN' UP.... ON A TUEEESDAAY
I still have mad respect for old Slipknot for taking the nu mental aggression to 11 and still achieving mainstream success. It's sort of like Tool achieving so much success but having 8 minute long singles. As someone who grew up with early slipknot, it was a gateway into more extreme music and I have them to thank for it.
I love the gray chapter, it's an awesome album, sure it's way different to Iowa or the self titled album but who cares? I had become a Slipknot fan after Vol. 3 had been released and when I became a Metal Fan I didn't like the shouting/growling aggressive stuff, which I now like and in my opinion they put so much energy and creativity in this record, the Intro is one of the best introductions I have ever heard! creapy, deep and overwhelming. I hope that Slipknot will continue in this way
What about Custer ? ehheeeeeeh ... Custer made me feel the pure escence of slipknot :P
We're not even gonna mention how awesome Custer and The Negative One are?
This is the best record they've done since Iowa. It's like a perfect blend of that record and Volume 3.
I thought this was their best record since Iowa.
Slipknot: 9/10
Iowa: 10/10
Vol 3: 8/10
All Hope Is Gone: 6/10
The Gray Chapter: 8.5/10
all hope is gone kinda sucked
+Cobain Fan Est 2002 why do you hate Iowa so much? (no disrespect, just wondering)
+Cobain Fan Est 2002 I guess I can get that. Their first two albums are their best imo
+Noonewillhearyou I think it goes self titled, Iowa, grey chapter, vol. 3, all hope is gone
+Santiago Milano fuckin spot on
Skeptic, The Negative One, and Custer are probably were among the top tracks on this record, I personally think.
You can hear Chris and Clown. Also the "She" in Killpop is the music industry.
That Anonymous Guy I find the title a bit funnier too knowing that
I feel completely different and feel like a lot of people have come to enjoy the melodic sound they are able to produce along with the chaos. But I complete respect the review for sure.
"whyamidoingthistano" LOL
ps slipknot are cancer
Still better than Linkin Poop
Dude why do I keep seeing you wtf. How are you doing?
Kieran Black good fam how are you
Im good, keep up your good taste in hip hop brother
I really liked how you focused so much on Slipknot's progression and your own personal history with their music leading up to the actual album. I have a feeling that this approach probably resonates with a lot of viewers and they knew exactly where you coming from with your thoughts on it.
I'm diggin' your album in the back. I've recently started listening to The Cramps and I found something that I never knew I needed in the first place.
I started my metal journey with AC/DC and went all the way up to Suicide Silence and Cannibal Corpse so let me tell you this: level of 'hardcore' and 'meaness' in metal does not make metal song good. I, for once, found that blending good melody into metal songs is a good and rare talent. That is why I love We Butter The Bread With Butter and Dir En Grey
. I found that, sadly, the more extreme vocals the song has, the worse it gets since bands trade good melody and good composition for heavy hits that exist only as a build up for breakdown with extreme screaming all over the place. As far as my money goes, Slipknot never failed to make me feel pumped up and ready to beat someone up while offering good melody with quality 'hits'. I think that they are, easily, one of the best metal bands ever. Mostly because they don't give a fuck about trends and do their own thing.
I agree with pretty much all of Anthony's reviews except this one. I think Slipknot is absolutely amazing both in terms of guitar, drums, vocals etc as well as trying to involve Sid on the turntables more and more, as to create a certain atmosphere (like in Be Prepared For Hell and If Rain Is What You Want), rather than just create that cliche scratching sound. Not their best record, which in my opinion would be either Iowa or All Hope is Gone, but I love the direction that they're beginning to go in. And in the end, the fact that they've put out a pretty diverse range of content in the past just leaves their next move to be that much more unpredictable.
Just my opinion man. Keep up the good work.
Super glad to hear you opinion on this one Anthony :) I am still a huge fan of the band and this album lit up my nostalgia. I'm diggin through their discography all over again! I appreciate your opinion because I know how much this band influences my own songwriting and I have a feeling you wouldn't like what I do, but I appreciate your nods towards "safe-writing" and "safe-production". I never really considered doing something truly adventurous outside lyrics, but I'll keep in mind your view. I like to compose radio-friendly music but I want it to be able to reach a wide audience - Pop music with some "balls" ( because I also want to reach out to the more "eclectic" types of listener) and what you say helps me to know how much "audacity" I should pour in.
Thank you very much!
Dude if your over 22 and like grind core you probably still live with your parents.Just admit u like the Cookie Monster rambling about worshipping satan.people think them liking the hard core Cookie Monster makes them hard core.that is until there mom tells them to turn down she's goin to bed.i hate how ppl don't like slipknot or say they suck cause you can understand what there saying.like that makes them Justin bieber.
It does seem like a race to the bottom of a well, this obsession with being "harder" and "harder". It's very jock-ish. Just make good music. Stop being obsessed with "out-muscling" your competition and showing how "tough" you are.
You do know that a lot of the songs are dedicated to Paul Grey, their bassist who actually passed away thats why a lot of the songs sounds sad, maybe it might be because Corey actually broke down into tears while recording them
I like few songs on this album, Slipknot is best when they go ape shit and pissed off
I only mention Craig, Chris, Clown, and Sid in particular because these are the 4 most overlooked guys in the group, and because of your claim that the only pieces that were essential were guitar, bass, drums, and vox.
Hmm.... and still you completely failed to address the meaning behind this album. Paul Gray, their former bassist, #2, died during their AHIG tour in 2010. This album was made in his honor. With that in mind, it completely changes the perspective on some of the songs
Still a shit album. Tribute or not.
@@WhackCalZone thats rude
The only two sad Slipknot songs I've enjoyed are Snuff and Vermillion Pt. 2. I really enjoy the music video for Snuff - dark, twisted and a fascinating theme for its time.
It hurts seeing a low score for an album and tribute on Paul Gray, but I can see why.
Killpop definitely sucks but The Negative One needs more credit.
I agree with you except on the killpop part it’s a very good song
theneedledrop what were your thoughts on their all hope is gon album? because i don't think you mention that album in this video
Do you have any content on Killswitch Engage? I would love to hear your opinion on them
In my opinion, nu-metal is for 15 year olds who haven't discovered hardcore yet.. because it is like Anthony said, super edgy and heavy until you discover better and more interesting music. Like after you have heard Converge, why would you go back to Slipknot?
I do agree with most of your comment, but SOAB is a great band and the ONLY album in nu-metal that can compete with other genre when it comes to songwriting, singing and arrangements.
manbrojoho *genres
***** I disagree, hardcore definitely has some shitty bands, but so does every other genre. However, there also many genuinely great and interesting band in hardcore too.
Like Converge, Refused, Have Heart, Modern Life is War, Defeater, Glassjaw, Cave In, Orchid, Pg. 99, Loma Prieta.. as well as older band like Black Flag, Rites of Spring, Minor Threat.
Dude no need to compare two genres, always hated the whole "ech nu metal is for 12 year old's", and Converge might be one of my favorite bands of all time, yet I still listen to Slipknot to this day.
Arian hmn I'm 15 and I love hardcore and bands like Converge (nice Orchid avatar btw). I never liked Slipknot.
While I love the living crap out of Iowa, I still enjoy some of their slower tracks, snuff, for example, I find myself listening to every now and then.
Yo that transition from your experience with the band to the review was so expertly done I got give you kudos for that.
That was a very good review of the album, Anthony! Personally, after getting into heavier shit since i discovered Slipknot at age nine, i still feel like Slipknot is interesting at some level. I dig the new album for what it is, a tribute to Paul Gray, but i miss that agression that i got out of the self titled album and IOWA. I still love them though, and I'm exited about seeing them for the first in february!
At the very least, we can say that it's an actual real record. All Hope Is Gone had no soul. Even the band now admits that with All Hope Is Gone they just wanted to get it done and go home. No, this album is not as good as their Self-Titled record or IOWA but at least it's Slipknot again.
By the way, great review Anthony! Love your vids!
Gehenna has more soul than this whole album ever will.
wtf fandango you've still not reviewed 1989
big black , Atomizer? thoughts? I really dig the album but would like to have a critical understanding.
Would really like to know what you think about King 810's "Memoirs of a Murder" album, or their "Proem" EP. They're currently on tour with Slipknot.
Anthony, why do you waste your time like that?!
Review La Isla Bonita already and stop messing around.
Will do. And I felt like o had to a little. SLIPKNOT IS A PART OF MY PAST AND I CANT DENY IT!!!!
HAHAHA fucktarded LOL
why didn't he mention anything about all hope is gone ?
+Matt Ambachew It doesn't count forget about it
Probably your first review I agree with you 100% on...also thanks for showing prowler in the yard...now that album is fucking awesome, crazy, brutal and has some of the best written/disturbing lyrics ever
Love that Prowler in The Yard was your go to album for a good grindcore sound. Won't lie, I'm interested in your opinion on earlier Pig Destroyer material like Prowler and Terrifyer.
i LOVE this album so sad to see you pretty much disliking it man.. I find it to be their best album, and i cant seem to find out why.. Like pretty much all their albums except their self titled album and all hope is gone.
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Quickest change in mood ever
Glad to see The Cramps on your shelf, got anything by The Meteors?
I liked this album the first time I heard it but I haven't had the urge to listen to it much after that. A lot of fans wanted them to release another Iowa, and this seems to be a decent enough effort at that, but it still falls short if it was a definite effort to return to their "old sound". If they do have it in them to release another record, I'm hoping they move forward and try to make something experimental and different... That's what I think made their debut and Iowa so great, I hadn't heard anything like that before and that's what intrigued me.
Just because YOU have heard heavier stuff doesn't make THEM any less heavy.
While reviewing, please remain to reviewing THIS album, and not what you think of them now as compared to what you thought of them before - we do not need to know that.
Lol, if much heavier stuff exists, then they are not that heavy. And much heavier stuff does exist. By comparing his taste with his taste from when he was a kid, a reviewer(not just this one, any reviewer) gives you a context and better understanding of what is he talking about. This is a fine review(nothing special, just an ok review), it gives you the right idea of what kind of album it is, and what kind of music this band plays.
Terriccota Pie Changing personal tastes cannot affect the judgement on an album.
If an album does what it sets out to do well, irrespective of what you feel about it, it should be judged a good album - if you are judging at all.
Chirodip Basu This has nothing to do with taste. If more hardcore music exists, then it exists no matter what you like. I already explained this, was never talking about taste.
yeah the problem is what it sets out to do isn't that impresive...therefore its not a good album, it like saying a miley cirus album is good becouse it did what it sat out to do
No. Extreme Metal is OBJECTIVELY heavier than this musically speaking. And ignoring perceptions of a band’s older material is the same ideology that led to St. Anger
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I was surprised by this review. I agree with what you talked about through most of the video (their old stuff) but I felt like this was a really awesome return to form. I thought it had just enough aggression, as well as variety, and I love a lot of the riffs on this thing. I think it's a killer album. I was hoping you would have talked about more of the songs, but I guess that's hard to do if you're not feeling it.
honestly i think this is a great album i love the mix of the screaming vocals and dark slow grasping lyrics that only corey taylor can do honestly i think this album is a testament to the insane vocal range of corey taylor and far as the killpop style lyrics go id say its what slipknot dose best dont get me wrong the first two albums was amazing iowa is my favorite and you talk about that style of vocals like it didnt exist until the subliminal verses but it very much did just take left behind or my plague for example lefet behind had these main parts that was very singing style with a chorus that was screaming and my plague had main parts that was screaming that went to singing choruses and far as saying that the turntables was tasteless and outdated is fucking insane its one of the unique things about slipknot because with each album the turntables got more advanced to the point that you cant tell its turntable anymore its it own thing and its deferentially not outdated considering the fact that there one of the few metal bands STILL using turntables like tell me where the fuck did limp bizkit go but what ever this is just my opinion tho im not saying this crap to start a argument just putting my opinion into it like a civilized person lol