You'd hope with Pride Month you'd get some spotlight on an openly lesbian driver getting a points finish way back in the 1970s but this is the first I've heard of her, aside from passing mentions in other videos about female drivers or reading a bit about her while in Wikipedia freefall
@@OpreRoma yeah I first heard about her when I looked up lgbt f1 drivers out of curiosity. And honestly it's super disappointing how f1 did absolutely nothing to celebrate pride month now that it's over.
@@aue2377 being a woman and making it to the highest level of Motorsport in the 70s Is an achievement deserving of the highest praise. And don’t say “weLl iF a GuY gOt tHe SaMe rEsUlTs..” because you know that’s bs. Girls were and still are heavily discriminated against in the world of Motorsport making it 1000x harder to accomplish anything let alone get P6 in a Grand Prix.
Lombardi was a real good driver but she was born too soon. Just like Mouton Which is a shame they were both real good. Mouton being 2nd in the driver championship in wrc
@@heavyharris5580 Plus Mouton competed in Group B, arguably the peak of rally racing interest and intensity. I'd say she came along at exactly the right time.
you mentioned the other women drivers and how they might’ve performed if given the chance and that really seems like the story of women in motorsports is if they were listened to and given a chance they could do great things
Lombardi was very good with sportscars too. She won a couple of world championship races with Osella Group 6 cars. I remember to have seen her racing at Monza several times with Osella (teaming with Giorgio Francia), Alfetta GTV and a huge Chevrolet Camaro (teaming with Anna Cambiaghi). Half of the race the Camaro was practically with no brakes left and they started braking half of the main straight... :-)
God damn josh been loving your videos since i found your second one you made, havnt missed one since. love the effort in your content bro also love the fact your a fellow kiwi keep the work pumping bro given us all something to enjoy on a regular basis 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼
When I first heard of the W Series I thought it was a nice idea. Drastically reducing cost in comparison with the pay driver shit-fest that is F3. I thought they were going to scout for young talented female racers, give them a chance independent of money and the champion would get something like a regular F3 drive with a decent team as a reward for one season. Turns out W Series is a yoke, the champion gets nothing and the average age is 25 this year. There is a woman in her early 30s racing in a F3 equivalent series to help young women get into single seater racing! Are they having a laugh? What is the normal age of an F3 driver these days? 17? 16? If you aren't a billionaire and/or in F1 by the time you are 25 you are done. There are only 20 seats and no team will hire a rookie thats 25+, when there are people like Pourchaire available. W Series should be under 20 only and that is just the minimum requirement for it not looking stupid. A better option would be to save the money of running an extra championship and just buy a F3 team, call it Team W for all I care and only take the three best YOUNG women you can find on the planet. Everyone gets 2 seasons, if they don't get picked up by another F3 team or F2 they are out, next three in, repeat until you find actual talent. Now cancel me, or W Series.
I was kinda expect the same things tbh since seeing the W series grid, only driver with "relevant" connection that can enter instead driver with potential talent. Thats basically sound like what we have right now No offense for the older driver but W series should be focus on young drivers, 24 at max. Not some driver with almost-expired-young age that trying salvage their career. People expect you to enter F1 before 25 nowadays.
Wow 🤩 well said 👏👏👏 f3 f2 even carting in the higher tiers is a complete shit show. It’s sick how much $$ is the factor not the talent alone. I kno racing cars cost a shit ton but man it seems so wrong.
@Rachel Wood Flörsch is completely right. Of course 28 year old women should be allowed to drive and win whatever they want, and I hope Flörsch criticized the series, not the driver personally. Its just almost insulting to put grown women in the same 'league' as male teenagers. What kind of message does that send? Regarding Flörsch: I hope she gets the funds for a good F3 or a bad F2 team next year, otherwise her chances are slim. WEC is good, she should continue racing there, but DTM is a bit too far from single seaters and honestly a step back when you want to do F1 one day.
Any woman that got a seat in f1 back in the 70s is already a champion in my mind. Seriously guys just imagine trying that. F1 is hard enough but to be a woman as well (back then) when sexism was the social norm and having that to deal with all the customary bullshit. You ladies are fucking legends.
Makes me sad how the current focus is on flamboyant (and increasingly over-the-top) pride parades and ridiculous drag queens. It's never "Dave the bricklayer" who just happens to have a husband with no real impact on the rest of his life, as if it's impossible to just be a normal man that likes men/woman that likes women. Honestly wouldn't surprise me if staying in the closet becomes more common again.
@@drunkenhobo8020 I mean, there’s plenty of people who are fairly quiet about it. But because they’re quiet, you don’t hear about them. The whole point of pride is that for years LGBT people have been told they should be ashamed of who they are, so it’s a way for them to say that they aren’t. I’d much rather people are a bit over the top in celebrating than them being attacked for it
@@sheogorath6804 I think that’s fair in general, but at the same time I’d imagine a lot of people that appear to have being LGBT as their only personality trait do have more to them, it’s just that’s not what they’re showing at the time. If you went to a Star Trek convention you’d expect everyone to talk about Star Trek non stop, but once they go home they’ll all have lots of other hobbies. I think it’s very similar for most people at pride, but that stuff isn’t at obvious, because then they aren’t LGBT people, but just musicians or cyclists or whatever, so you’d have no idea that it was another side to the LGBT persons personality because you can’t tell that they’re LGBT other than at things like pride
Notable during her 1975 trip to Australia is that she also competed in the Victoria Trophy at Sandown before the Grand Prix, setting the joint fastest lap and she would have been second had it not been for a fuel splutter near the end. All of this being done in a Matich A51 Repco, a rather different machine from the Lola T330 Chev she drove in Europe. P. S. The "Formula Ford Mexico" series mentioned in the video was actually the Shellsport Celebrity Series at Brands Hatch which used a set of Ford Escort Mexico's, hence the geographical confusion I assume.
Ay, I know it's a quick vid and all, but I figured it's as good a time as any to show appreciation for your efforts to highlight successful female f1 drivers. I sure as shit ain't gonna start a racing career, but it's refreshing to see women in racing put in the spotlight regardless. Keep being awesome!
Lella only made one NASCAR start - the 1977 Firecracker 400 at Daytona - but there were two other women in the field that day: Christine Beckers (her sometime teammate in sports cars) and Janet Guthrie. Unfortunately, all three retired with mechanical failures.
Tbh I think that Peterson was mostly listened to because of his previous results, otherwise they'd have just think he was crying. It's not uncommon even today that a car engineer will just answer "hm hm yeah for sure" to his driver's complaints if they hadn't proven to be reliable on giving feedback or drive incredibly fast... That's how car engineers mostly are.
Straight on point... not a book about her, not an interview, and soon people who met her will be gone so no way someone could tell her story that I guess would be interesting. Probably Italian TV has something in their huge archives...
@@gillian67ec It's a real shame, because she did not JUST win points, or half a point, that day one at Montjuic, but look at that whole season, and he position at seasons end. She finished ....21st? I think...in 1975. Sounds bad, but the grid was MUCH bigger back then. I believe 53 drivers took part in that season. Not all contested every race, but neither did she. Then look at some of the names she beat that season. Those names included Graham Hill, John Watson, Chris Amon, Rolf Stommelen and Jean-Pierre Jabouille. The fact that she beat half the field, and that meant half the MEN who campaigned that season, should be as focused on as that one race. She set a bar, and put to be forever any talk of women not being able to compete in F1, or that they need special protocols and pathways for women to get in to, and be competitive in, F1. Sometimes I wonder if she is ignored because certain people in power in the FIA do not want to acknowledge the example, lest it demonstrate lack of talent is not the sole reason women are not represented in certain tiers of motorsport. If they can say that maybe one day a woman will be good enough, but for now, there just aren't as many in motorsport as men, so none good enough have come along, for F1 level competition at least. Then it is an easy, blanket, coverall reason which can be nicely explained and easily swallowed. BUT... is someone comes along and raises the banner of that time a WOMAN in fact DID compete in an F1 season, in INFERIOR machinery, and DID score, so that has actually been done, and more, went on to be last driver classified for the season, beating men like X Y Z in the process......... ......well then the aforementioned reasoning begins to look a little shaky, no? Someone might begin o look at if there are not other entrenched, systemic reasons, for why F1 has not had a woman on the track in over three decades. Look at it in a way they might have otherwise been less urged to, if they believed the official line. She was amazing, and truly deserves better than even Josh has done in the video, if I am honest. I feel like the fact this video had so much less depth than even his videos about some kid in F2 who has not even made an F1 grid, is itself, a sad testament to this woman's marginalization by motorsport history.
Apis4 Lombardi was very good with sportscars too. She won a couple of world championship races with Osella Group 6 cars. I remember to have seen her racing at Monza several times with Osella (teaming with Giorgio Francia), Alfetta GTV and a huge Chevrolet Camaro (teaming with Anna Cambiaghi). In most cases she was among the fastest. Lombardi, Desiree Wilson and Janet Guthrie in US were doing really well with relatively poor underfinanced machinery. Michelle Mouton instead had a real opportunity just some years after with official Audi.
@@gillian67ec Yes, but Wilson et al in the US, and Mouton, were not even at Lombardis level. She raced in F1! Even then, Grand Prix racing was as whole nother level, as it is today. For her to score points, and be classified at seasons end, and be so against some of the names she beat? That is an achievement beyond even any of those other women. It stands as the greatest achievement, to me, of a woman behind the wheel in professional racing. Sure it was one race, one season, but it's significance cannot be overstated. Her example would shut up all the arguments about if a woman is good enough for F1..... ...or should, but it doesn't, as most racing fans today do not even know the story. I've lost track of how many times I've had to educate teen and 20 something yr old F1 fans as to how that argument is moot and already been settled, and tell them of Lombardi in 75. It was a tragedy we lost her so relatively young, and now her story had essentially been forgotten.
There's definitely hope for more women in single seaters for the future. Jamie Chadwick, Alice Powell, Maria Gdest, Sophia Flörsch, Amna Al Qubaisi, Juju Noda
Given the lack of reliability of the cars back then, the number of cars entered, how few drivers got points, and so on, I think (I've always thought) she has been thoroughly underrated. Is your mentioning of Pat Moss a hint that you're working on her story? There's quite a beautiful love story, two petrolheads bonding over a flat tyre. I won't spoil the story lol. I'm really very appreciative of you talking about the great female racers. Looking forward to hearing some more. Given that I learned to drive in '82, and that I worked for a rather large chain of car parts shops a few years later ("orange shops" for any Brits reading), you can imagine how much I, just as an ordinary woman in that already changing world was discriminated against. But oh, the fun I had at some men's expense when they discovered that I knew more about their car than they did 😂. My bosses in the two stores I worked in we're actually fantastic and didn't put up with anyone giving us girls any gip, not that we couldn't look after ourselves. But they were of the opinion that someone undermining us was equally insulting them and their ability to choose knowledgeable staff. Though in today's computerized world, I'm out of my depth. Give me a set of points and a feeler gauge and I'm your woman! Dad and a couple of mates ran a taxi service, and from the age of 4 (in '69!) I would be his "assistant", because I could get under the engine without any jacks and get my hands into small places to guide spanner heads and sockets into place. When going places (not in the taxi!), I was changing gear for him by the time I turned 6. I was so small no one outside could see me riding shotgun (no kids seats and precious few seatbelts in some of our older cars, so I could slide down quite low). He'd press the clutch, say the number of the gear he wanted and I'd change it. Didn't take me long to do the trip to Nana's without instructions! Needless to say, that did _not_ happen with my kids! They had to do it by remote. I'd call out "gear!" and from the back, they'd tell me which one to get into. It was the only safe way (and legal one!) to get them really comfy with cars. Only lasted for the first two though, it was too noisy after that lol!
Great video as always Josh 👍 Wondered when you were going to get onto RAM.... my Dad is the R 🤣🤣 Also know Ian Ashley very well lovely chap.... known buy most people as Crashly 😉😅
If you have not already, you need to research and do a video on Desire Wilson. Her achievements outside of F1were superior to Lombardi's and she had a similar experience with a damaged car in F1. In early 1980, she won the Easter Monday Aurora Championship race at Brands Hatch which was not an official F1 championship race but was a highly regarded feeder series like F2 today. She got a drive for that year's British Grand Prix at Brands Hatch and on a test day ran mid pack times in a car she had never driven before, suggesting she had a chance to qualify for the race. However, unknown to her, her team gave her a DIFFERENT CAR for the race, one which had a chassis defect that caused flexing at speed, negating its ground effects. It did not qualify and it was years later that the car change was found out about. The team owner scammed her with a take her sponsorship money and run scheme. The car in testing was "borrowed" from another driver. The poor performance in the car for the race damaged her reputation and she never got another chance in F1.
1: No. The only 2 possibilities of F1 racing at Le Mans are if they go through the Bugatti circuit, or the 24h circuit. Both currently hold FIA grade 2 licenses and need an FIA grade 1 license for an F1 race to be held. Even with changes, the Bugatti circuit won't suit F1 cars, and the 24h circuit would be too dangerous (unless drastic changes are made which includes removing the Mulsanne straight and making the track shorter) 2: No. After the changes were made to create the new circuit, the old circuit was torn up and trees were planted in its place. The old Monza circuit is in better condition than old Hockenheim.
Lella Lombardi and Desiré Wilson neither get the respect they deserve, They were extremely good drivers who are conveniently forgotten when F1 talks about how no Women really raced in F1. -_-
To anyone doubting that woman...F5000 was basically the GP2 of the day...and she finished 5th there...rather than just showing up and finishing last almost every race like Tatiana Calderón did. Anyone finishing a season 5th in GP2 today would be considered a serious talent, irrespective of gender.
Hooray for Lella! I knew that she was a lesbian, found out when I was researching about LGBT drivers (other two are Mike Beuttler and Mario de Araujo Cabral, first portuguese driver, 1959-64). She was very discrete about it, and her relationship was a very stable one, lasted until she died in March of 1992 at the age of 50. She was a good racer, and I also knew about that story of the cracked chassis. That was told by Robin Herd, who also had in high regard. Vittorio Brambilla tested it and told that he found nothing, but in reality, he felt threatned by her. And she was seventh in Nurbugring 1975. Imagine what she have done with a proper chassis... Oh yeah, she paved the way for other girls. And they will appear.
@@ruthswann88 so? The only reason pride month exists at this point is for companies to earn more money. This is a video about a woman in f1. I get that but her sexuality literally has nothing to do with the conversation so why is it even mentioned
@@ploppyjr2373 Because it's thematically relevant to the month it's in and is another illustration of traditionally overlooked demographics in motorsport being able to succeed. IMO it's not really a big deal and it's a nice bit of trivia, so I'm fine with it
@@ruthswann88 i guess that’s true but i think there is no reason to mention and more to get support from people by saying “see she was also lesbian she was so amazing!” What she did was good enough by itself and you don’t have to try to make it better by pushing something nobody really cares about
Lombardi: there’s something worry with the car March: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA yeah right, what would a woman know about an f1 car Peterson: there’s something wrong with the car March: HOLY SHIT REALLY?! Me: wow men were absolute idiots back then
@@rensuchan it really isnt. Its heavily eurocentric and only accessible to the wealthy. It doesnt help that f1 is touted as the best of the best in motorsport and anyone that falls outside of those margins has an infinitely harder job getting into F1
@@tubthungusbychumbungus It's certainly not economically diverse, but it does pull people from every continent. I still stand by it being culturally diverse.
Something that Carmen Jorda will never do
This man killed her career… in case If she had any 😂
yet... you know Haas would sign her if she waved her chequebook....
Who?
@SYH currently she is in DTM, let's focus there first.
@SYH To be honest, women need more opportunities to get into feeder series in Motorsport. Once they're in, the rest is up to them.
Ah. "The car was handling like rabies.".
That is so oddly specific, yet, so good.
Haha we meet again! ;)
@@hithesh7665, yes, we do.
Seeing all those Lavazza sponsorship on those 70s cars gives this video serious Latiffi vibes
*KING LATIFI IS OMNIPRESENT*
Always have to read twice thinking "what does Laffite has to do with this? Oh, it's Bizarro World's Laffite, it's Latiffi !"
Well, he is beating Russell
@@CurtisStuart27 not anymore since the Belgium shambles 🥲
She did even scored at the 1975 Spanish Grand Prix, which is great.
Thanks, giga chad
I wish more people talked about her, shes overlooked so much when people talk about women in F1
Yea they only talk about fucking Carmen Jorda
You'd hope with Pride Month you'd get some spotlight on an openly lesbian driver getting a points finish way back in the 1970s but this is the first I've heard of her, aside from passing mentions in other videos about female drivers or reading a bit about her while in Wikipedia freefall
@@OpreRoma yeah I first heard about her when I looked up lgbt f1 drivers out of curiosity. And honestly it's super disappointing how f1 did absolutely nothing to celebrate pride month now that it's over.
@@OpreRoma Based Lesbian
@@sneakysnake7695 indeed
Lella Lombardi will always be a legend
*sad mahaveer noises*
It’s a shame she didn’t continue in F1, as she was clearly quite good!
Well Lombardi indeed was the first woman to score "a" point not "one" point
I’m sorry but I don’t think I get it
@@f1funnymoments397 It wasn’t “one”, because it was only half a point
@@meikelwupp7044 yes I know it half a point but he said it was “a point” and that means it’s 1 point
"a" point refers to one full point, thats why its called half a point
@KaliFyre the point in zero point five does not share the same definition of a world championship point
3:15 So Lavazza was a sponsor of Lella Lombardi. Well, they probably got more from her half a point than they'll ever get from Latifi!
This is a certified Latifi moment
and from Russel so far
Dont underestimate the spoon
Ah cmon, he is a decent driver cut him some slack
if Elon musk made a rocket and gave to Williams F1, russel’s rocket would break after 10 laps, that’s Williams 2021
These videos about the women of motorsports are great. People don't talk about them and how important they are.
how is she important, she has achieved virtually northing
@@aue2377 being a woman and making it to the highest level of Motorsport in the 70s Is an achievement deserving of the highest praise.
And don’t say “weLl iF a GuY gOt tHe SaMe rEsUlTs..” because you know that’s bs. Girls were and still are heavily discriminated against in the world of Motorsport making it 1000x harder to accomplish anything let alone get P6 in a Grand Prix.
@@hi_c.v7289 p6 in a grand prix with a fuck ton of dnfs and a red flag, yeah, impressive lmao
Josh uploading that video two days before pride month ends:
*STILL COUNTS!*
Half a point!😁
Lombardi was a real good driver but she was born too soon.
Just like Mouton
Which is a shame they were both real good.
Mouton being 2nd in the driver championship in wrc
@SNOWMAN88 she had more balls than most men
I don't think born too soon is the right way to put it. They paved the way, it may have taken many more years if not for them in their time
@@heavyharris5580 Plus Mouton competed in Group B, arguably the peak of rally racing interest and intensity. I'd say she came along at exactly the right time.
3:28, March Engineering only gave Peterson a new chassis after he crashed out in the 1976 Belgian Grand Prix.
I'm a complete noob to F1, so these videos of "semi-forgotten trail-blazers" are really interesting. I like them a lot,
Desiree Wilson also technically won an F1 race, it was part of the British Formula One and not the official World Championship but its still F1 tho
Aurora F1
you mentioned the other women drivers and how they might’ve performed if given the chance and that really seems like the story of women in motorsports is if they were listened to and given a chance they could do great things
2:18 As a Spaniard, I can confirm that yes indeed, throwing goats off of Church towers is very much a thing
sadly
@@TheProkonover Traditions🍾
@@mamamamamamam1112122 Logic>Traditions Tomato fest makes no sense either.It's just a waste of food.
You need to throw Alonso too then.He is the GOAT
good stuff! thanks for bringing these folks to the spotlight!
She has the balls to drive these car without actually having a balls!
@KaliFyre, they’re further inboard, for better weight distribution.
Lombardi was very good with sportscars too. She won a couple of world championship races with Osella Group 6 cars. I remember to have seen her racing at Monza several times with Osella (teaming with Giorgio Francia), Alfetta GTV and a huge Chevrolet Camaro (teaming with Anna Cambiaghi). Half of the race the Camaro was practically with no brakes left and they started braking half of the main straight... :-)
God damn josh been loving your videos since i found your second one you made, havnt missed one since. love the effort in your content bro also love the fact your a fellow kiwi keep the work pumping bro given us all something to enjoy on a regular basis 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼
Michelle mouton and lella lombardi
Not carmen jorda
Thank goodness for that.
I was waiting for this one
3:14. Wait... she ACTUALLY said that?! Wowsers...
I am watching the football damn you Josh’s timing
Why are you on YT then
@@niismo. notification
So you chose Josh over Football 🤨
@@that3401 no I just commented
Don’t try me your not that guy
Its coming home
When I first heard of the W Series I thought it was a nice idea. Drastically reducing cost in comparison with the pay driver shit-fest that is F3. I thought they were going to scout for young talented female racers, give them a chance independent of money and the champion would get something like a regular F3 drive with a decent team as a reward for one season.
Turns out W Series is a yoke, the champion gets nothing and the average age is 25 this year. There is a woman in her early 30s racing in a F3 equivalent series to help young women get into single seater racing! Are they having a laugh? What is the normal age of an F3 driver these days? 17? 16? If you aren't a billionaire and/or in F1 by the time you are 25 you are done. There are only 20 seats and no team will hire a rookie thats 25+, when there are people like Pourchaire available.
W Series should be under 20 only and that is just the minimum requirement for it not looking stupid. A better option would be to save the money of running an extra championship and just buy a F3 team, call it Team W for all I care and only take the three best YOUNG women you can find on the planet. Everyone gets 2 seasons, if they don't get picked up by another F3 team or F2 they are out, next three in, repeat until you find actual talent.
Now cancel me, or W Series.
YES! Exactly!
Well said. It looks like a half-assed effort of a genuinely good idea. Shame that the implementation sucks.
I was kinda expect the same things tbh since seeing the W series grid, only driver with "relevant" connection that can enter instead driver with potential talent. Thats basically sound like what we have right now
No offense for the older driver but W series should be focus on young drivers, 24 at max. Not some driver with almost-expired-young age that trying salvage their career. People expect you to enter F1 before 25 nowadays.
Wow 🤩 well said 👏👏👏 f3 f2 even carting in the higher tiers is a complete shit show. It’s sick how much $$ is the factor not the talent alone. I kno racing cars cost a shit ton but man it seems so wrong.
@Rachel Wood Flörsch is completely right. Of course 28 year old women should be allowed to drive and win whatever they want, and I hope Flörsch criticized the series, not the driver personally. Its just almost insulting to put grown women in the same 'league' as male teenagers. What kind of message does that send?
Regarding Flörsch: I hope she gets the funds for a good F3 or a bad F2 team next year, otherwise her chances are slim. WEC is good, she should continue racing there, but DTM is a bit too far from single seaters and honestly a step back when you want to do F1 one day.
spectacular video josh!
Had no clue women even scored points in F1. Thanks bro!
Had no clue u watched Josh Revell
Hey Darian
@@johngancarcik5682 HELLO
….really enjoy your channel homie I learned about of alot people I never heard of before. Keep it up 👍🏾
As always, Love your work bro.
Still waiting for a video about the first woman to win Grand Prix Eliška Junková (Elisabeth Junek for you english speakers).
What happened to the top 10 drivers of each decade series
Any woman that got a seat in f1 back in the 70s is already a champion in my mind. Seriously guys just imagine trying that. F1 is hard enough but to be a woman as well (back then) when sexism was the social norm and having that to deal with all the customary bullshit. You ladies are fucking legends.
"Oh, btw, she's gay" which is probably how we should all act around LGBTQ+ people... tell us what you do not who you do
"Tell us what you do not who you do", I like that
Makes me sad how the current focus is on flamboyant (and increasingly over-the-top) pride parades and ridiculous drag queens. It's never "Dave the bricklayer" who just happens to have a husband with no real impact on the rest of his life, as if it's impossible to just be a normal man that likes men/woman that likes women.
Honestly wouldn't surprise me if staying in the closet becomes more common again.
@@drunkenhobo8020 I mean, there’s plenty of people who are fairly quiet about it. But because they’re quiet, you don’t hear about them. The whole point of pride is that for years LGBT people have been told they should be ashamed of who they are, so it’s a way for them to say that they aren’t. I’d much rather people are a bit over the top in celebrating than them being attacked for it
@@sheogorath6804 I think that’s fair in general, but at the same time I’d imagine a lot of people that appear to have being LGBT as their only personality trait do have more to them, it’s just that’s not what they’re showing at the time. If you went to a Star Trek convention you’d expect everyone to talk about Star Trek non stop, but once they go home they’ll all have lots of other hobbies. I think it’s very similar for most people at pride, but that stuff isn’t at obvious, because then they aren’t LGBT people, but just musicians or cyclists or whatever, so you’d have no idea that it was another side to the LGBT persons personality because you can’t tell that they’re LGBT other than at things like pride
@@drunkenhobo8020 Damn how could a comment supporting gay rights be so homophobic. That's toxic masculinity for you.
The best way to spend 5:06 minutes during the lockdown here in South Africa❤️🇿🇦
3:30 Ronnie Peterson car most have been really creapy if he talk about it.
He almost never talk about how the car drived badly.
Tjenare min vän, låt mig hjälpa dig: "must have" istället för most, och drove istället för drived.
2:23 this enraged the drivers, who punished the officials severely.
**PROCEEDS TO SPANK THE STEWARDS' ASSES AGGRESSIVELY**
@@versthappening603 stewards: Saacreee BLLEEEEEUU
Love seeing how accepting of everybody Josh is (so long as they aren't a Manus)
Notable during her 1975 trip to Australia is that she also competed in the Victoria Trophy at Sandown before the Grand Prix, setting the joint fastest lap and she would have been second had it not been for a fuel splutter near the end. All of this being done in a Matich A51 Repco, a rather different machine from the Lola T330 Chev she drove in Europe. P. S. The "Formula Ford Mexico" series mentioned in the video was actually the Shellsport Celebrity Series at Brands Hatch which used a set of Ford Escort Mexico's, hence the geographical confusion I assume.
I never knew about that chassis thing in the match, she genuinely could've been a winner, she was fantastic
Great video, Josh. Thanks!
Ay, I know it's a quick vid and all, but I figured it's as good a time as any to show appreciation for your efforts to highlight successful female f1 drivers. I sure as shit ain't gonna start a racing career, but it's refreshing to see women in racing put in the spotlight regardless.
Keep being awesome!
Great Video. I've shared it with my friends!
Sad that there haven’t been any since
I'll admit I was waiting for a revival of the Mahaveer Raghunathan meme at the end but with Carmen Jorda's face instead
Thanks for telling the story of this really underrated woman, who's often been forgotten in F1 history
Lella only made one NASCAR start - the 1977 Firecracker 400 at Daytona - but there were two other women in the field that day: Christine Beckers (her sometime teammate in sports cars) and Janet Guthrie. Unfortunately, all three retired with mechanical failures.
I saw Lombardi race at the 1975 Belgian GP, I had a pit pass and got her autograph. I though she was an inspiration.
Cool 😎 that's a neat piece of motorsport history you own
Tbh I think that Peterson was mostly listened to because of his previous results, otherwise they'd have just think he was crying. It's not uncommon even today that a car engineer will just answer "hm hm yeah for sure" to his driver's complaints if they hadn't proven to be reliable on giving feedback or drive incredibly fast... That's how car engineers mostly are.
Finally! She's the most ignored woman in motor sport.
Straight on point... not a book about her, not an interview, and soon people who met her will be gone so no way someone could tell her story that I guess would be interesting. Probably Italian TV has something in their huge archives...
@@gillian67ec It's a real shame, because she did not JUST win points, or half a point, that day one at Montjuic, but look at that whole season, and he position at seasons end.
She finished ....21st? I think...in 1975.
Sounds bad, but the grid was MUCH bigger back then.
I believe 53 drivers took part in that season. Not all contested every race, but neither did she.
Then look at some of the names she beat that season.
Those names included Graham Hill, John Watson, Chris Amon, Rolf Stommelen and Jean-Pierre Jabouille.
The fact that she beat half the field, and that meant half the MEN who campaigned that season, should be as focused on as that one race.
She set a bar, and put to be forever any talk of women not being able to compete in F1, or that they need special protocols and pathways for women to get in to, and be competitive in, F1.
Sometimes I wonder if she is ignored because certain people in power in the FIA do not want to acknowledge the example, lest it demonstrate lack of talent is not the sole reason women are not represented in certain tiers of motorsport.
If they can say that maybe one day a woman will be good enough, but for now, there just aren't as many in motorsport as men, so none good enough have come along, for F1 level competition at least. Then it is an easy, blanket, coverall reason which can be nicely explained and easily swallowed.
BUT... is someone comes along and raises the banner of that time a WOMAN in fact DID compete in an F1 season, in INFERIOR machinery, and DID score, so that has actually been done, and more, went on to be last driver classified for the season, beating men like X Y Z in the process.........
......well then the aforementioned reasoning begins to look a little shaky, no? Someone might begin o look at if there are not other entrenched, systemic reasons, for why F1 has not had a woman on the track in over three decades. Look at it in a way they might have otherwise been less urged to, if they believed the official line.
She was amazing, and truly deserves better than even Josh has done in the video, if I am honest. I feel like the fact this video had so much less depth than even his videos about some kid in F2 who has not even made an F1 grid, is itself, a sad testament to this woman's marginalization by motorsport history.
Apis4 Lombardi was very good with sportscars too. She won a couple of world championship races with Osella Group 6 cars. I remember to have seen her racing at Monza several times with Osella (teaming with Giorgio Francia), Alfetta GTV and a huge Chevrolet Camaro (teaming with Anna Cambiaghi). In most cases she was among the fastest. Lombardi, Desiree Wilson and Janet Guthrie in US were doing really well with relatively poor underfinanced machinery. Michelle Mouton instead had a real opportunity just some years after with official Audi.
@@gillian67ec Yes, but Wilson et al in the US, and Mouton, were not even at Lombardis level.
She raced in F1! Even then, Grand Prix racing was as whole nother level, as it is today.
For her to score points, and be classified at seasons end, and be so against some of the names she beat?
That is an achievement beyond even any of those other women.
It stands as the greatest achievement, to me, of a woman behind the wheel in professional racing.
Sure it was one race, one season, but it's significance cannot be overstated.
Her example would shut up all the arguments about if a woman is good enough for F1.....
...or should, but it doesn't, as most racing fans today do not even know the story.
I've lost track of how many times I've had to educate teen and 20 something yr old F1 fans as to how that argument is moot and already been settled, and tell them of Lombardi in 75.
It was a tragedy we lost her so relatively young, and now her story had essentially been forgotten.
I really wished more woman could succeed at the top level of Motorsport.
Unfortunately, that’s very unlikely
Well there’s hope for Juju
As long as they're here because of their skills and not just for the sake of having more women
There are some talented ones but they never get backing, meanwhile Jorda...
There's definitely hope for more women in single seaters for the future. Jamie Chadwick, Alice Powell, Maria Gdest, Sophia Flörsch, Amna Al Qubaisi, Juju Noda
We have one of Lella's old Formula Junior cars in the shed. Always an honour to drive it.
Please do a video about what a F1 street circuit in NZ would look like 😍
A wonderful overview of this pioneering female. Bravo!
I hope one day see Jamie Chadwick or Miki Koyama racing in F!.
Good to hear that she at least got half a point on the board. Still waiting for a video on Jack Smith.
i guessed the video on twitter, i have completed life
Dude.
Read the names of the drivers who Lombardi finished higher than in 75.
THAT'S where you see she was NOT just lucky.
great video, in terms of who will be next Alice Powell and Jamie Chadwick are two of my thoughts
Given the lack of reliability of the cars back then, the number of cars entered, how few drivers got points, and so on, I think (I've always thought) she has been thoroughly underrated. Is your mentioning of Pat Moss a hint that you're working on her story? There's quite a beautiful love story, two petrolheads bonding over a flat tyre. I won't spoil the story lol.
I'm really very appreciative of you talking about the great female racers. Looking forward to hearing some more. Given that I learned to drive in '82, and that I worked for a rather large chain of car parts shops a few years later ("orange shops" for any Brits reading), you can imagine how much I, just as an ordinary woman in that already changing world was discriminated against. But oh, the fun I had at some men's expense when they discovered that I knew more about their car than they did 😂. My bosses in the two stores I worked in we're actually fantastic and didn't put up with anyone giving us girls any gip, not that we couldn't look after ourselves. But they were of the opinion that someone undermining us was equally insulting them and their ability to choose knowledgeable staff. Though in today's computerized world, I'm out of my depth. Give me a set of points and a feeler gauge and I'm your woman!
Dad and a couple of mates ran a taxi service, and from the age of 4 (in '69!) I would be his "assistant", because I could get under the engine without any jacks and get my hands into small places to guide spanner heads and sockets into place. When going places (not in the taxi!), I was changing gear for him by the time I turned 6. I was so small no one outside could see me riding shotgun (no kids seats and precious few seatbelts in some of our older cars, so I could slide down quite low). He'd press the clutch, say the number of the gear he wanted and I'd change it. Didn't take me long to do the trip to Nana's without instructions! Needless to say, that did _not_ happen with my kids! They had to do it by remote. I'd call out "gear!" and from the back, they'd tell me which one to get into. It was the only safe way (and legal one!) to get them really comfy with cars. Only lasted for the first two though, it was too noisy after that lol!
Great video as always Josh 👍
Wondered when you were going to get onto RAM.... my Dad is the R 🤣🤣
Also know Ian Ashley very well lovely chap.... known buy most people as Crashly 😉😅
"I HATE IT WHEN THE DRIVSHAFT, DOESNT DRIVESHAFT ANYMORE"!! 😆😆😆
Thank You for highlighting women in racing
Rest in Peace, to the first woman to score points in Formula 1.
If you have not already, you need to research and do a video on Desire Wilson. Her achievements outside of F1were superior to Lombardi's and she had a similar experience with a damaged car in F1.
In early 1980, she won the Easter Monday Aurora Championship race at Brands Hatch which was not an official F1 championship race but was a highly regarded feeder series like F2 today. She got a drive for that year's British Grand Prix at Brands Hatch and on a test day ran mid pack times in a car she had never driven before, suggesting she had a chance to qualify for the race. However, unknown to her, her team gave her a DIFFERENT CAR for the race, one which had a chassis defect that caused flexing at speed, negating its ground effects. It did not qualify and it was years later that the car change was found out about.
The team owner scammed her with a take her sponsorship money and run scheme. The car in testing was "borrowed" from another driver. The poor performance in the car for the race damaged her reputation and she never got another chance in F1.
you should do a video on sophia floresch
4:38 The one time when you can't make a Mahaveer joke. But maybe there could've been a Nico Rosberg one? Britney is in the wall and all that.
That’s not the point joke got me
Video Ideas: 1 Could f1 Race at le mans
2: Could F1 return to the old hockenheim
No for the 2nd one the old track isn't even a thing anymore
There is no way F1 would race on Le Mans, F1 never races on tracks longer than 5 kilometers
@@saraymxdnxght lol there are many circuits more than 5km in f1
1: No. The only 2 possibilities of F1 racing at Le Mans are if they go through the Bugatti circuit, or the 24h circuit. Both currently hold FIA grade 2 licenses and need an FIA grade 1 license for an F1 race to be held. Even with changes, the Bugatti circuit won't suit F1 cars, and the 24h circuit would be too dangerous (unless drastic changes are made which includes removing the Mulsanne straight and making the track shorter)
2: No. After the changes were made to create the new circuit, the old circuit was torn up and trees were planted in its place. The old Monza circuit is in better condition than old Hockenheim.
@@saraymxdnxght Close, 7 km (only Spa is marginally longer); any newer tracks must be between 3.5 and 7 km for Grade 1, as per FIA
Can you make a video on Sabine Schmitz? i know it's not a formula 1 related video but Sabine deserves a dedicated video imo
Lella Lombardi and Desiré Wilson neither get the respect they deserve, They were extremely good drivers who are conveniently forgotten when F1 talks about how no Women really raced in F1. -_-
she did le mans with Thatcher's son (yes, the one who got lost during Dakar)
To anyone doubting that woman...F5000 was basically the GP2 of the day...and she finished 5th there...rather than just showing up and finishing last almost every race like Tatiana Calderón did.
Anyone finishing a season 5th in GP2 today would be considered a serious talent, irrespective of gender.
Hooray for Lella!
I knew that she was a lesbian, found out when I was researching about LGBT drivers (other two are Mike Beuttler and Mario de Araujo Cabral, first portuguese driver, 1959-64). She was very discrete about it, and her relationship was a very stable one, lasted until she died in March of 1992 at the age of 50.
She was a good racer, and I also knew about that story of the cracked chassis. That was told by Robin Herd, who also had in high regard. Vittorio Brambilla tested it and told that he found nothing, but in reality, he felt threatned by her. And she was seventh in Nurbugring 1975. Imagine what she have done with a proper chassis...
Oh yeah, she paved the way for other girls. And they will appear.
I get the thing with women drivers but why would her sexuality matter?
@@ploppyjr2373 Cuz it's Pride Month
@@ruthswann88 so? The only reason pride month exists at this point is for companies to earn more money. This is a video about a woman in f1. I get that but her sexuality literally has nothing to do with the conversation so why is it even mentioned
@@ploppyjr2373 Because it's thematically relevant to the month it's in and is another illustration of traditionally overlooked demographics in motorsport being able to succeed. IMO it's not really a big deal and it's a nice bit of trivia, so I'm fine with it
@@ruthswann88 i guess that’s true but i think there is no reason to mention and more to get support from people by saying “see she was also lesbian she was so amazing!” What she did was good enough by itself and you don’t have to try to make it better by pushing something nobody really cares about
what's your opinion on the W Series in general Josh? I would love to listen to your thoughts on that one.
Did you know? She scored more points than George Russell in the Williams
(We hope this fact will become wrong this week end)
... why must you hurt me in this way?
Don't you mean ½ a point....
0:05 WOOOOOO ronnie
Great job! Make video about Felipe Massa or Helio Castroneves.
It will be interesting
Lombardi: there’s something worry with the car
March: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA yeah right, what would a woman know about an f1 car
Peterson: there’s something wrong with the car
March: HOLY SHIT REALLY?!
Me: wow men were absolute idiots back then
RIP Lella Lombardi 😪
Would’ve been interesting to put Danica Patrick behind the wheel of a F1 car when she was at the peak of her indie car career
I was about to comment:
Definitely not Carmen Jordan!
But then I saw the other comments…
Do a video on nyck de dries
I believe he already did
but there is a video for that already.
Lavazza, Emperor Nicholas has been here.
The mere base of formula 1 says that is not important who the pilot is, it’s gender or skin color, the only thing that matters is if you are fast.
George Russell needs to get some inspiration from this video
Tbh, I wonder if she was a inspiration for Haruka Tenoh in Sailor Moon?
Pfp checks out
What a legend she is
I really hope to see some womans in the paddock in the years coming, it would bring so much diversity
If they are as quick as the drivers they compete against, them yes. If they are put their because they have a vagina... No.. Merit not sex
What’s the obsession with diversity?
F1 is already one of the most culturally diverse sports in the world. Diversity goes beyond skin and gender.
@@rensuchan it really isnt. Its heavily eurocentric and only accessible to the wealthy. It doesnt help that f1 is touted as the best of the best in motorsport and anyone that falls outside of those margins has an infinitely harder job getting into F1
@@tubthungusbychumbungus It's certainly not economically diverse, but it does pull people from every continent. I still stand by it being culturally diverse.
that joke about half point that isn't the point was good ahah
You should make a video about Alex Zanardi
She showed that Female's can be good in motorsports
Seeing a picture of Lombardi and your channel, I was expecting another "WTF happened to..." title ..... Good call not to in this case!
RIP Lella
Tatiana Calderon A.I. is the BEST F1 2020 My Team teammate!!!
I would like to see a video about Robert Wickens or Billy Monger
She managed to get into F1 in the fucking 70s and people think girls need the W Series now
That point pun was right on ... uh... point.
What about brendon Hartley?
I appreciate all your female racer coverage ❤️
as an lgbt nb women in motorsport i love to see our history covered!