Archbishop Viganò's Fate
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2024
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You can't sit with Heretics and get anything accomplished. Muir is right about Francis . He's destroying from within 💔.
“The Church is here to stay.” Absolutely right, Father. Let’s all remember that. ❤️💙
Father Murr is one of the few good priests left. Very wise choice from Urbi and communications. Thank you Robert.
We have many great Priests!!
@@mpkropf5062 Absp. Vigano was removed from m his nuncio position because in 2014, when Pope Francis visited the US, the Archbishop area fed for the pope to briefly visit with Kim Davis, the clerk, who because it violated her Christian beliefs, did not sign homosexual “marriage “ certificates and she was imprisoned . The Poe was happy to visit his former chef, a high mosexial who is in the US and living with his “partner” the pope didn’t like the agenda that Absp set for him as he wanted to glorify sodomy, not make a statement against it. Plus he promoted “global warning@ and spoke against capital punishment but not a word against abortion and the harvesting of embryos!
@@mpkropf5062 in hiding…only a few dare to speak the Truth
Fr. Murr has been censured for nearly 20 years and told not to appear as a priest. He's a fraud
This was such great discussion. Lord help us. Mother Mary, Queen of Heaven , pray for us. 🙏🏻
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Outstanding insight. Thank you. You continue to teach us so we can help Our Father’s Church in our small but loving way🙏🏼
Thank you Fr and Robert. From Ireland ☘️
In the endearing words oof Bishop Athanasias Schneider 'Popes are temporary. The Church is eternal'
Fr Murr I love your humor.
This is the most Trusted Church News Channel for me!
This is always such a great weekly podcast. Your personalities work well together and we are blessed that you have put this together. I really sense a sadness in Dr. Moynihan concerning this Vigano situation. We will continue to pray for all involved. Viva Cristo Rey!
Thank you Fr. Murr. Great discussion. Well explained the problem with our Church. also Dr. Robert ❤Return to Tradition . Now is the Battle between good and evil. Praying for you All.
I need to listen again - much insight, much foresight, much devotion to & knowledge of The Perfect Inspirational Church and the inter-workings of the highly flawed institutional church. I need to grasp on more fully to Our Blessed Lord, Jesus, and His Bride, through His Blessed Mother. Thank you both for being forthright and examples of Fidelity! God Love you, dear Brothers in Christ.
Question: Was Pope Francis in schism the moment he contradicted Pope Benedict's letter that gave every priest the right to say the Traditional Latin Mass without needing any Bishop's permission? Was he in schism for contradicting Pope Pius V's decree on the Mass and not allowing any changes to it? Was he in schism when he allow the blessing of people in same sex relations? Was he in schism when he said God wills a diversity of religions? Can one be in schism when one is following the deposit of faith, recognized throughout the Church's history, but it is the LEADERS of the Church who are walking away from it?
Excellent discussion thank you Fr. Murr and Dr. Moynihan.
"We have to expect that we will be persecuted, but let us not flag in our faith, let us not be weak. Let us be firm, like all those who have given us an example and who have gone before us, whether in the Old or the New Testament.
The action that you personally carry out, each one of you in your family, by your attitude as true Christians, as true Catholics, by keeping that faith that was taught to you in your childhood by true priests, by holy bishops, will bear fruit, and it bears fruit already. Our kind mother in Heaven has conquered all heresies, all errors. So she will not fail to vanquish the modern errors that have penetrated even within the Church, and she will give the victory to her divine Son, our Lord Jesus Christ." ~ Archbishop Lefebvre
Dr Robert and father Murr are a great combination ‘ they know their stuff
I was poorly catechized and thankfully I learned the truth and practice my faith. Thankful for The r Bible In a Year a, great priest on podcasts andr reading several great Catholic books.
I must say that you are both most appreciated. I think its time to call out the origins of the issue. Refer to Vendee Radio and this situation right now is culminating in the battle we must engage in so as to do MAJOR HOUSECLEANING. We may become smaller, or we may regain our Catholic integrity. There's no way around it. I also recommend the Catholic Esquire.
Thank you both.
This was an excellent show. I learned much. Thank you for your work!
PRAY, PRAY, PRAY FOR THE TRUE CATHOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST !!!
GOD'S DIVINE PEACE BE WITH YOU BOTH / not human peace but rather DIVINE and SUPERNATURAL
I wholeheartedly disagree with the modern JP2. The bishops and cardinals he raised (Theodore Mccarick), Assisi x 2, the sexual scandals under his watch and to allow the passing of priests from parish to parish, excommunication of Lefebrve, Kissing the koran, etc. etc.
Pope Benedict XVI said we may become a smaller and purer church?
Seems we are headed in that direction.
@@elizabetamedvedeva Which is not the direction Jesus gave to His Church.
@@JD-io2ct Really? You know that? How? Lest you forget: "Many are called but few are chosen".
As one Priest explained, "to remain silent is to be complicit with the evil".
Parable of the Talents - the servant who did nothing with his talent was sent to outer darkness. As God said to Ezekiel, "unless you warn the wicked, I will require their blood from thine hand". Archbishop Vigano is obliged to warn and call out the wickedness he has seen, especially in the Church of Christ where he committed his life to serve Christ for the salvation of souls. His Excellency knows he will have to answer to Christ for being a witness of wicked clergy in the Church who are sending countless souls to Hell. Those clergy who remain silent have blood on their hands and ought to fear when they stand to give account before Christ. Christ established the Priesthood for the salvation of souls. What will a Priest who failed in this calling say to Christ at his personal judgment?
Thank you for this discussion. God bless you.
My guts telling me we are about to lose a lot of priests and bishops.
We are about to become a splintered church.
I heard a priest yesterday say that if Vigano gets the excommunicated a lot of people who aren't saying much now or for the last 12 years are going to say a lot VERY LOUDLY!
@Myohomoto
Let's hope so! Sadly, I'm hearing from many that they will go to EO or sede groups.
+Exsurge Domini+ 🌹
I hope that guy in crisis magazine will watch this. He threw Archbishop Vigano under the bus. Shame on that guy!
Well we will see; MMPs are on high alert.
Hate and fear is what both Trump and Vigano preach. Don't be a fool.
Thank you both for your humble and wise conversations. I have listened to them all and this may b the most important thank you for not ignoring or explaining away but openly and honestly talking about these issues calmly and deeply
Robert, I am praying so hard for you. I am so thankful for you that God has put you in the career that He did-that He gave you to get an insiders look at all of these things for so so many years. I love it when you mention Jesus‘s cross, and how God‘s way is one of suffering and humility, and dying to self. Please keep holding onto the faith. If you can, please read the Baltimore catechism rather than the new catechism that John Paul the second wrote. It will help you with your faith-to strengthen it.
It is just amazing to me that you have kept your faith after seeing all of these Heresies and changes. I pray for you that your faith continue to fail not. and that God opens your and Father Muir’s eyes to Exactly WHAT *He* is doing in His church.
This is a very intelligent conversation. The chemistry pf your dialogue is fruitful. Keep it up. Personally, I think we Catholics have to get EVERYTHING out into plain sight. Then Christ will work his miracle.❤❤❤ Viganò is right in saying that you cannot denounce someone for speaking the truth!
YES you cannot denounce someone for speaking the truth ; THE TRUTH ! I agree . The sane & the just in the eyes of God agree .
Benedicamus DOMINO ! Deo Gratias !🙏🏻🌹🇵🇭
I just finished reading Malachi Martin's Jesuits. Wow can you see Pope Francis. To me it seems that Jesus' admonition to the church at Ephesus in the book of Revelation: "I have this against you, you have lost your first love." Divine intimacy seems to have been jettisoned resulting in the loss of the dignity of the priesthood, then doctrines and morals. Those of us who can and will, fall on our faces before the Lord, fast pray seek Him for Him believe for miracles.
Wonderful discussion.
Agree with Fr Murr re Pope Benedict wonderful man
The church is in her final passion. Pray for priests, bishops , lay people, everyone! Pray very hard.🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻😇♥️
Thank you for these important conversations! Two voices of sanity!
Archbishop vigano is the answer today.
The phrase is ‘pull the wool over the eyes’.
Oh, Fr. Murr. You just made me choke on my coffee when you said you'd "let (yourself) go" after Dr. Moynihan asked you what happened to your hair. 😂😅
We love you and your theological common sense.
This is a very sad & difficult time indeed but for me , not surprising at all. Was troubled from the beginning of Francis’s tenure & have been praying for him & still am.
The answer is simple prayer, faith and total trust in God !
Promise he is on the problem
Church had better get ready for a schism
Good to hear Fr. Murr aknowledge Francis is the problem.
I agree with Mr. Moynihan's opinion that what Francis is doing is within God's permissive will for whatever Is feasable to His Divine Will.
Robert and Dr. Murr Thank you
How can I offer you some financial support?
Please pray for Archbishop Vegano's safety. In these trying times we need to ask St. Michael Archangel to protect him. I ask this, in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Amen❤✝️🕊️⛪🙏😔
Amen 🙏
You need to pray for him to repent!
I think that when you call a spade a spade you should not suffer unfavorable consequences. I stand with Archbishop Vigano. Our so called Vicar of Christ needs to take a refresher course on the doctrine of faith of the Catholic Church. I lost faith in Francis when he had the Pachamama idols in his garden and placed them on the altar of a prominent church in Rome during his Amazon Synod. The Lord's words and God's Ten Commandments have not changed. No deletions or additions. Francis needs to heed them.
We are facing a Church unrecognizable from what has always been taught everywhere and always. So what do we do???
Our Lady said that even the Good Faithful will be deceived; so we have to yes, stay with Tradition!
Dear Fr. Murr and Robert thank you, as always, for this excellent discussion. Btw what is that beautiful musical introduction?
Dr. Moynihan pictures with the Pope.
I saw them in the pages of Inside the Vatican in 1995, if not 1996.
I was a student then at Ateneo della Santa Croce.
We are going into final trial and the time predicted at Fatima, Garabandal, and Akita.
Respectfully, to say that what is happening is not Francis’ battle but rather those around him is utterly absurd. Francis has been insulting and denigrating traditional and conservative Catholics since the earliest days of his regime. To propose that he anything other than the central instigator of what is happening within the Church denies reality.
Well said Rev.Fr.Murr.
The Catholic Church,is nobody's private property to do and say as the please.
The real issue isn’t the excommunication. It’s basically the fact that Bergoglio is a heretic, and everything else-including Vigano’s excommunication- emanates from that central fact.
Statements like this lead to excommunication! It’s very disrespectful to call the Holy Father a heretic! You need to get to confession!!
The very serious problem came when in Vatican I probably out of ingenuity (I hope so)
to fight the Carbonari declared the infallibility of the Pope, until then Popacy was corrected
or correct itself. Now..............
@Suegreene... >In practical consequences< you're right, but it's a hyper- papalism or Ultramontanism as Peter Kwasniewski and other highly knowledgeable people have explained and written about.
The dogma of papal infallibility >when he speaks/declares »»Ex Cathedra«« IS correct.<
The pov that any statement/teaching/document from the pope is automatically withOUT error… or >must< be obeyed withOUT question… is NOT the teaching of the Church (no matter how many times pope francis [lowercase intentional] and his agents, aka complicit bishops act otherwise).
💫 Padre Pio said the Rosary is "the weapon!" So… many more we need to pray.
🙏 St. Joseph Patron of the Universal Church pray for us.
In the McCarrick report, it states/quotes McCarrick as saying S. America to be considered for a candidate (my words here) for the next Pope. McCarrick was the kingpin of N. America/US, Martin Europe. Martini and McCarrick ruled. They walked all over Pope Benedict and Abp. Vigano.
Abp. Vigano must have simply said he can't do this anymore when he realized what was really happening. Like Abby Johnson, who was right in there with planned parenthood, she was enlightened.
Dr. Moynihan...you said those men were ignorant. They're not ignorant, they are blind. They cannot see the truth because they are blinded by this destructive agenda, by their own drive to succeed and their own ego.
The name of the Spirit that wants to destroy Christ’s Church is SATAN.
My p😢ray are for Vigano,is in my herat,I wishing I can.see him,
I listened to a video about the letter of Mgr Vigano of the 28 of June 2024. Everything stated in that letter is correct. Nobody can change the doctrine given to us by Saint Peter who come from Jesus. Vatican 2 transformed the Catholic Church into a conciliar, Synodal Church. This is not the true magisterium of the Catholic church given to us by Saint Peter. Everyone pray for pope Francis but this is not the way out. We need a true Catholic pope leading the remnant in order to be able to save it because it is to difficult for a canceled priest to go alone into this abyss. Msr Vigano is showing the way out and he need all the divine help that he can get.
One simply cannot ‘come to terms with’ people in the hierarchy who are Modernists. It is an impossibility. it is simply not possible. You just can’t do it.
The process derives from The Natural Law. The fourth principle of discernment is Reevaluation. This is not being done regarding Vat II.
Dear Father Murr: We have two things in common we live on the same land, you closer
to the Rocìo Virgin and me to Santiago y cierra España, and the second one, our ancestors
from the Island of Saints. I agree with you the Church has always been in trouble, as their
followers.
Vigano has not gone too far. Those who want to continue their comfortable live while pretending an enemy of the Church continues to dismantle the Church have not gone far enough. The truth must come out about how this maniac became pope, if he really became pope. I cannot fathom how the leaders of our Church demand that a man who publicly processed a pagan idol into St. Peter’s Basilica and led prayers to it must be pope and won’t even demand he renounced his open apostasy. We cannot wait out Bergoglio, pretend he is a valid pope, and elect the next apostate, as if this never happened. Something strange and unprecedented happened when Benedict “resigned,” but in all appearances remained pope, wearing white, the red shoes and the papal ring. We cannot pretend this succession was normal and must determine whether it was valid. There is a spiritual reality at work, despite the appearance that Bergoglio is pope. That reality must be dealt with. The prelates have not gone far enough. It is not enough to merely criticize Bergoglio. We must get to the truth, which clearly is that there was something strange about the resignation of Benedict and the election of Bergoglio, and Cardinal McCarrick’s role in it, which he commented on in an address at Villa Nova University.
It has been proven now that the "pagan idol" you describe was a depiction of Our Lady of the Amazon and was presented to the Pope in that manner.
@@GreenKnight1979
The “pope,” himself, identified the idol as “pachamama” when he apologized to the pagans that a Catholic threw them into the Tiber. Are you calling the Mr. Bergoglio a liar? What proof do you have that Bergoglio lied and these idols were actually the Blessed Mother and St. Elizabeth?
@@GreenKnight1979baloney
The pope went too far with idol worship at the Vatican.
@@GreenKnight1979
Multiple news outlets published a report claiming that “Pope Francis” had apologized that the “pachamamas” had been thrown int the Tiber. Is there proof that “Pope Francis” is a liar, and that these were not “pachamamas?”
The Land O' Lakes Agreement and Statement destroyed Catholic Higher Education for generations and it continues to do so. Fr. Murr is correct, there was a selling out of Catholic Higher Education. The signors of Land O Lakes document included Fr. Hesburgh who convened this group and his allies. Only 10 universities were represented, including six from the U.S.: Boston College, Catholic University of America, Fordham, Georgetown, Notre Dame and Saint Louis. Of the 26 signers, seven were from Notre Dame and its sponsoring Holy Cross Fathers, and ten were Jesuits or leaders of Jesuit institutions. Truly sad that our Catholic Education is scarcely now. Thank to Fr. Murr and Urbi & Orbi for their excellent coverage.
Our priest who says TLM told us 2 years ago our bishops goal was to add traditional pieces to the NO Mass. Very sad!
Adding Latin to her NO would hardly be a compromise, That won’t work.
@@johnholmes6667 Yes I agree, knowing this to be the goal all along is heartbreaking.
Francis exhibets many of the actions of Freemasonry.
How do catholics feel, if they tried to follow the catholic rules for their whole live, now finding out, that this was all wrong!!!!!!
Clearly, the Pope has imposed new regulations affecting biblical interpretation -- WHY?
Father should be carefully he might be committing grave sin by calling Francis holy..
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At which point does the Vicar of Christ assume responsibility?
Right at the beginning!
Robert, I would agree in the past the curia may have been able to get around the popes; I doubt that Francis has that problem. Pope Francis is way to much into control, for good or bad.
Both of these leaders are fearless and full of wisdom
Thank you for professing the Truth! I always benefit from your discussions. God bless and keep you!
I think that the Pope that sent him to USA was Pope Benedict, the reason why he was retired by Pope Benedict, who brought him Back was Pope Bergoglio.
Thanks!
Archbishop Vigano blamed Pope Francis for some things which Pope Benedict did. Secondly he blamed Pope Francis for some things which happened under Pope John Paul 2.
The Pope stands accused of very serious misconduct, viz. he, the man entrusted to strengthen the brethren in the faith, has repeatedly failed to do so over more than a decade. He is charged with CONFIRMING believers in the Faith, not CONFUSING them!!! Jesus never said ¡Hagan lío!, tout au contraire, but Jorge Bergoglio most certainly did, in fact he screamed it into an amplifying microphone....
Team Vigano!
Agree totally 51/00 past tense must be used for majority of Jesuits today who would be totally repudiated by Saint Ignatius
But disagree totally at beginning of video remarks about the Glorious Emperor who Legalized Christian Faith for First time in history
How close is San Gallen, Switzerland to Davos, Switzerland?
Robert …you look so tired. … and sad….please don’t lose your faith. Look to the blessed Virgin Mary, she’s the Star of the Sea….
"You will have a PROVIDENTIAL MISSION in the United States"?????
TELL THE TRUTH AND SHAME THE DEVIL!!!! We all KNOW WHO THE DEVIL has under HIS CONTROl!!!!!!
***looks like you know the truth inside out, are you sure you are not under control of the devil? just go for a month retreat and meditate about the TRUTH, without any bias, just yourself.***
@@adelinomorte7421 I think you'd have to agree that pope francis IS doing the devil's bidding when he teaches direct heresy vs. DeFide defined dogma on the Eucharist and the Immaculate Conception- both of which he's done… the former in a papal document no less!
Only GOD knows the man's soul. HOWEVER, objectively he has repeatedly and publicly taught AGAINST Faith AND Morals also.
🙏Our Lady Destroyer of All Heresies pray for us.
What about form and matter Fr. Murr
What is the Pacha Mama thing?
14:48 Thank you, God bless. Do you rem 1ember that movie the cardinal?? As for our family being traditional coming from the Papal States. Not great fans of the man in white. We have been praying hard for him for many years, my real problem is, the Mass, ironically, we have two cardinals in our family tree, this one gentleman was Victor general for five popes , ladder 1600s, Francis is an apostolic succession with 😅shooo.
A synod is a church meeting. The Synod of Synodality is essentially a church meeting about the quality of church meetings.
Gentlemen, it has been "difficult times" since the Conciliar Church was instituted.
Can you guys stay on point just once? What is Viganò’s fate?
@sophiachavez... Vigano was declared excommunicated >latae sententiae.< So, like Archbp. Lefebvre, Vigano was Not personally and directly excommunicated by the pope; rather, for his canonical "crimes" he's declared to be outside the Church by his own actions. Technically, it's 'kissing' Fernandez who issued the document.
Go figure: MOLESTER McCarrick and Serial-Sexual-Abuser of nine (9!!!) nuns Plus Sacrilegious Confessions Fr.M. Rupnik are NOT excommunicated… but Archbp. Vigano is!
@Sophiachavez... Archbp. Vigano, like also Archbp. Lefebvre decades before, was excommunicated "latae sententiae." He was Not personally and directly excommunicated by the pope; rather, he was declared excommunicated-in effect, by his own actions because of the canonical "crimes" he was charged with-technically by 'kissing' Fernandez, who's the head enforcer under pope francis.
Go figure: pope francis does NOT excommunicate MOLESTER McCarrick, and does NOT excommunicate Serial-Sexual-Abuser of nine (9!!!) nuns Fr.M. Rupnik PLUS Sacrilegious Confessions… but Archbp. Vigano IS excommunicated.
There's Not anything wrong with that picture, right? LoL!
Lord Have Mercy.
🙏St. Joseph Patron of the Universal Church pray for us.
💫 Padre Pio said that the Rosary is "the weapon!" So… many more we need to pray.
3:33 Constantine didn’t make Christianity the official religion of the Roman Empire he merely legalized it. That didn’t happen until 80 years later.
When people have this degree of incorrect information why are they looked at as sources?
AMDG
If the kardinals do not make this guy bergoglio go away, i will go away from this church. Still staying catholic!
Same here. I am too Catholic to stay in this fake church.
I walked away from the Church 42 years ago. I never walked away from my faith, and I never will.The world is my church, and I live as if it is. I listen to Catholic radio and go to church, but I may stop going to church. The church's heart seems closed to the people.
@Andreasfetzer... You're NOT leaving the Church, >they are
@@elizabethwood2000 Seek out good faithful Catholics, a good parish and Mass. Dear Elizabeth, please don't try to struggle alone-youre not a hermit. Ask Our Lady and your guardian angel for guidance and strength.
That was the reason why Pope John Paul II, favoured the Opus Dei.
Satanodality?
Corruptio optime pessime
The world is satans place.
Astrology has predicted all this.
Can i say that i disagree with the return to TLM.
It is time that old folk just back out of that discussion.
Our children don't go to mass now and would be even less likely to go to an elitist eucharist , where only the priest understood what was being said ...
You need to wise up. All around America and in Europe the MAJORITY of those attending the TLM are young people in their 20's and 30's who are having large families. Did you ever hear of a missal, wherein the Latin and English translation are side by side on each page? You say "I disagree with the return to TLM." The Mass does not belong to us. It is not a plaything to be redesigned according to whim.
If you want to see gray haired old ladies, go to Novis Ordo.
If you want to see Catholic families, whole rows of children, go to a traditional mass.
Your comment does not describe reality but is complete ignorance’s
The tragedy is that +Vigano has denied that Pope Francis is a canonically elected Surpreme Pontiff and he does not recognise him as Successor to Peter Also he denies the Vatican II. He has brought the expected excommunication upon himself as a bishop who refuses to acknowledge the position of Francis as the Successor to Peter. This is schismatic. You needed to state that and you have not. You are more on Vigano’s side than the pontiff. This is not good. I have worked in the Vatican and seen it up close. There are good and bad popes, Alexander VI was one of the worst yet a valid Successor of Peter. You have skirted around the schism issue for most of the video and avoided any real criticism of Vigano. He is not credible now at all and will no doubt be given the Church’s penalty.