Orthodox and Non-Orthodox Christians (w/ Fr. Andrew Stephen Damick)
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What do Orthodox Christians think of non-Orthodox Christians? In my investigation of Orthodoxy, I've received varied answers to this question, and in this video I talk with Fr. Andrew Stephen Damick about this question as well as the larger question, why be Orthodox? Fr. Andrew shares his thoughts on Protestants, Catholics, as well as opening up about some of the challenges facing Orthodoxy. We even get into the hot topic issue of internet orthodoxy. Enjoy!
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"The Orthodox Church is Evangelical, but not Prostetant.
It is Orthodox, but not Jewish.
It is Catholic, but not Roman.
It is not non-denominational, it is pre-denominational. It has been believed, taught, preserved, defended, and died for." ☦️
Amen Amen 🙏Amen ☦️☦️☦️☦️
Nice "Our Life In Christ" quote. That old podcast was very helpful in my journey to the Orthodox Church🙂
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Amin. ☦️
Amen brother
I was a Calvinist for 22 years. Chrismated into the Orthodox Church this past July 25. I have never been more sure of a decision. Thank you for your great videos.
Did you believe in OSAS when you were a Calvinist? If so, how has your stance on eternal security changed?
@@a.kamileon it's not believed in Orthodoxy/historically
@@a.kamileonThe traditional "OSAS teaching" isn't hold by clavinists although they hold a similar teaching: Perseverence of the Saints is.
Welcome home! Many years!
@@a.kamileon yes; I firmly believed in the perseverance of the saints. Once I was exposed to the Fathers of the church and how they interpreted the scriptures, that false doctrine fell pretty easily. Honestly, the last vestige of Protestant theology that fell for me was penal substitution
These interviews are always way better than anything on Netflix.
Thanks!
Truth!
100% better than netflix. seems odd to prefer watching youtube over netflix since theyre both converged and promote evil but on youtube i can find full length docus and lectures and podcasts about wonderful info like this !
And more uplifting
very low bar haha but for sure, I'm so glad I started watching a variety of Christian content over what I used to watch!
As a former Protestant pastor who converted to Roman Catholicism and is now in the process of conversion to Orthodoxy, Fr. Damick said something in here that was very true for me. He said that some become enamored with Catholic doctrine but can't find a parish to experience that. That has most certainly been true of my experience. I'm also one of those theology nerds (being a seminary grad) but the "on the ground" experience of Orthodoxy is truly and deeply more profound than modern Catholicism. Excellent interview!
Thanks for sharing your journey with this!
Return to the Catholic Church. it is a mortal sin to abandon the true faith. And if you do not like modernism you can find the traditional Latin mass. there is no modernism there
@@CopperheadAirsoft The very reactional nature of the TRADS is inherently modern.
@@CopperheadAirsoft oh brother…🤦♂️
I was born and raised into Catholicism and then fell away and then converted into Protestantism. My life is a testimony to God’s love and mercy as He has literally saved me from death many times. I should not be here as my nine lives are up. But God is so good he has even brought me to the True Church the Orthodox Faith to truly see my sins which He is showing me and bringing me to repent of my sins through Orthodox teaching and practices which I struggle to grasp and follow. I thought I was a Christian until I encountered God through Orthodoxy. Lord Jesus Christ Son of God have mercy on us sinners! 🙏
Rediscover traditional Catholicism rather than enter into schism.
I was raised Lutheran, and became Orthodox in 2001, but sadly fell away and wasn't even Christian for a time. God had mercy on me, and I returned to the faith in 2018. Last Sunday, my mom who is in her 70s joined me, and was chrismated Orthodox. With a few exceptions, the family's general response to Mom's conversion has been icy, even hostile. Nonetheless, Glory to God! May God bless you abundantly, Austin. Your channel is a blessing to me and many others.
What a beautiful story! Glory to God indeed!
Pray for me. I want to be orthodox and want my entire family to be orthodox
@@brotherbroseph1416 Start with yourself and the rest of the family will follow when they see the example you set. 🙂
see father Spyridon !!! urgently
I am sorry about your family's reaction. I have found that a lot of people who are negative toward Othodoxy are so simply because they are uninformed and, therefore, fearful about Orthodoxy.
Within 1 year of Fr Damick saying I had no audience and was a loser we surpassed AFR’s reach and audience.
I am not in a position to criticize, I don't know either of you, but please consider how comparison can affect oneself.
I’m EXTREMELY thankful for you Jay, and I am also thankful for you Fr. Damick. You both had a massive role in my conversion to Orthodoxy. I love you both and pray for you both. I believe, from watching hundreds of hours of each of you, that you are experiencing more of a misunderstanding than a fundamental disagreement. I’ve never felt that you two were contradicting each other but instead that you each brought something powerful. Maybe time for a nice long conversation ☦️🙏🏼
@@johnathanrhoades7751 We have overtaken them for a reason, they manifest bad fruits and shout people down for pointing out the obvious.
Priests have authority that laypeople do not. The authority isn’t only conferred by the Bishop and history, but by the laying on of hands and the exclamation of AXIOS by the people.
If a layperson like yourself is corrected and you don’t agree, go to your Bishop. You don’t have authority to correct a Priest.
@@bonniejohnstone We've already been through this. These AFR types want laypeople to be more involved in the Church but then pull rank when you point out what they are doing. Hypocrites right there.
I'm English and converted to Orthodoxy last year. My journey began through working in Greece along with holidays. Even on the islands which are full of tourists you will find treasures of the faith (ancient icons, relics and beautiful monasteries).
@@ldb5666 I haven't but I have been to Zakynthos and Kefalonia for the Ionian islands. I was blessed to see with my eyes the incorrupt body of St Gerasimus on Kefalonia. I also visited the church of St Dionysius on Zante.
I have been also to Symi and visited the Monastery of St Michael and seen the miraculous icon. Crete was the first island I had been to but I dittnt see and relics, but the icons in the shops and bars caught my attention.
The island I have spent most time on is Rhodes, and I kept being drawn back to a hotel in the old town. I was familiar with the Saints of the other islands but never occurred to me who the Patron Saint of Rhodes was ( I did know St Paul stepped foot on St Paul's bay in Lindos). It was only in England when I for the first time entered a Greek Orthodox Church (I had started in a Church in the Russian tradition) that I discovered who my Saint is. At the end of the liturgy an icon of St Phanorious was brought out along with the Fanoriapita (it wasn't yet his feast day). When I enquired about St Phanorious I discovered the hotel I always stayed at in Rhodes Town is close to the church that has his miraculous icon.
@@ldb5666 Ancestral faith? Haha
@@dnosic English were Orthodox prior to the Schism, they even sided with the East until the Invasion of William the Bastard. England was even called Mary's Dowry.
@@Cobruh_Commander hahahahahaha
@@dnosic Get off and go outside.
I'm a simple fellow. A simple Southern Baptist man. I really really love the beauty of the Orthodox Church and wish there was one of those around my city here in Florida but there don't seem to be any. Thanks for the good content guys
Where in Florida are you? I live here as well.
Did you look Ethiopia orthodox church in your area? you might find one
Don't forget, it's not about the 'outside of the cup' its about the inside...
I can point you to every good Orthodox Church in florida. I live here. Message me
If you are anywhere near Jacksonville, try St Justin the Martyr. Only English spoken. You are welcome.
I barely knew anything about Orthodoxy until I listened to an audiobook by Frederica Matthews-Green, now I can't get enough!
This father promotes the gay agenda. Look at Ancient Faith Radio contributers like Charlotte Riggle.
Join Ortodoxy and you will have it all !
I love your videos. I just started my journey to Orthodoxy last week. I am so excited about this, and I have never been excited about church or religion in my life.
Former protestant here and meanwhile cathechumen at Russian orthodox church in Holland. Looking forward to this!
Hope you enjoy it!
Would you mind letting me know which Church? I have a friend in Holland who converted but is having trouble finding a Church because of COVID restrictions.
@@lilywojciechowski9906 Hi Lily, ofcourse. It is the russian orthodox church in Friesland ( village: Hemelum) and also frequently visit the Russian Orthodox church in the city of Groningen and Leeuwarden. Where does your friend live in Holland? He may contact me for further info.
@@lilywojciechowski9906 also from the Netherlands. There are also Orthodox Churches in Rotterdam (Serbian, Russian, Greek). Also in The Hague, Utrecht, Schiedam and so on.
That’s amazing! I’ll be baptized soon by Fr. Jewsewy in his church in Hemelum. (I’m a parishioner in the ROC in Zwolle)
To those who want me to "name names" -- no. I was asked about the phenomena of Orthodox problems on the Internet, so I described some examples of problematic behaviors. I'm not interested in calling anyone out, stirring up scandal, etc. People who behave badly can do that on their own.
Part of my job as a clergyman who works in communication especially on the Internet is to offer a critique of what I see. If it resonates with you, great. If you think I'm full of crap, then don't listen to me.
I appreciate Austin having me on his show and being willing to bring up even the stuff where we Orthodox have problems.
We need to do a lot better and a lot more to treat the Internet as the mission field that it is, because people need Christ. They don't need me or my opinions or anyone else's, so you're free to ignore me. But we do need to preach Christ a whole lot more and a whole lot better.
Thanks, everyone, for watching.
Grateful for your example and class. Thanks for coming on the show!
Amen 🙏 🙏 🙏
Thanks so much Father Andrew. As a newly minted Orthodox convert from evangelicalism I’d like to say I have mostly succeeded in avoiding convertitis, but I’m trying to always check myself. Your examples of what is and isn’t the real Orthodox mindset are the kind of thing I need to hear as often as I can.
Thank you so much Father, the humility and honesty that you show when you speak of our faults, particularly in the online presence is honestly refreshing.
Well said.
I've always been one who is very interested in the art of debate and have always been a sort of evangelist for my viewpoints on things. Then once I became Orthodox, I decided to use my debate skills for that. Probably the hardest pill that i've had to swallow is what Fr. Andrew is saying here. Orthodoxy is a life. You can't argue someone into it, you must learn before you can teach. Personal repentance is always the most important thing and always the hardest. God bless.
I really appreciate you sharing your journey with this
@@GospelSimplicity You too man, great interviews on this channel.
As Christ our God said: "Come, and see!"
Former SDA. I was die hard against the catholic church and orthodox church. We are taught it’s basically the same. Some how after years out of the church and during my search I have been brought to Orthodoxy.
Hey same here! Grew up very SDA. Began to shift a little bit into some reformed schools of thought late teens but eventually fell into deconstructionism and agnosticism, on my way to neo paganism.
By God’s grace I was introduced to The Lord of Spirits podcast and am now an Orthodox catechumen. Glory to God ☦️
Same here! My SDA upbringing was great but didn’t give me the depth that I have found with the Orthodox Church. This church has been an amazing blessing!
I’m wondering if you believe that you were true Christ-followers when in the SDA church? What is your perspective now? I’m not trying to be argumentative. I’m genuinely curious. Thanks and God bless you
Austin, bravo for this interview! As a result of your interviews I was baptized and chrisimated on this past St. Lazarus Holy Saturday ! Praise God!
Welcome home!
So wonderful to hear such restraint, kindness and humility coupled with clarity and powerful immediacy. Thank you both. ❤️I love the realities that Orthodoxy is "about" Christ, worship and winning brothers....and not about a spreadsheet of right facts.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Should start a become Orthodox/Catholic Jar where we all put in $0.10 every time someone asks Austin when he's becoming Orthodox/Catholic so he can keep making videos .
That would be a great way to support his channel
HAHA yes! This is amazing
Hahaha I think he’d have a thousand dollars by now at least
@@GospelSimplicity I think Austin is probably worried that once he backs a horse he'll lose a big chunk of his other viewers/subscribers, but that's ok Christ told us what we would lose for him.
@@xpictos777 I think you should think more of Austin (the host) than that, if he is moved in a direction, he'll take it, I am confident of that.
I'll venture to bet that one of the purposes of the channel is not only for the audience to learn, but for Austin to learn and decide as well.
Because:
“Orthodoxy is what Christ taught, the apostles preached, and the Fathers kept.”
-St. Athansius
There is one unavoidable fact: the Orthodox faith has “evolved” over the ages, many rituals that Christ had never taught were brought in and developed. During the times of Constantine the church definitely underwent some “transformation”. Of course now it looks all solid and unchanging. Reality is different.
@@synthesaurus Mind giving specifics about Constantine?
Because plenty of groups say the idea of the Trinity was brought in by emperor Constantine.
So, go ahead, give me specifics.
I don't think that's what Athanasius meant. Roman Catholicism is what Jesus taught. But in a very orthodox way. He didn't start the "Orthodox Church". Jesus started the Catholic Church.
@@1Hope4All that was true... before 1054.
@@synthesaurus so being part of the 40,000 + protestant sects is better and closer to the original church of Chirst ?
The Divine Liturgy is the closest we can get to Heaven while we’re on earth. It’s mystical, reverent, otherworldly, glorious, breathtaking…
The entire service is spent adoring our Lord! It’s not about me, it’s about Him. The point is not to entertain me or make me feel excited. We are ther to thank Him, praise Him, apologize
Absolutely. Makes me think of this wonderful quote:
"Too often modern Christians forget that the Church is not just an institution, but the Kingdom of God that is here but is still to come. The Church is described as the Bride of Christ. We are betrothed to Christ. The second coming is the wedding day and the final consummation. Therefore, we live this present life in two dimensions: as saved and yet hoping for salvation; as betrothed to Christ and yet in anticipation and anxiety for the consummation of the marriage; as joyful and yet penitent; as having everything and yet possessing nothing; as living in this world and yet “having here no continuing city”; as in the world yet not of the world; as being members of Christ’s Church, receiving the new life of baptism and eternal life in the Eucharist; and yet as striving to be made worthy of the Kingdom to come. This double character of Christian life is absolutely essential to the Church’s spirituality and role within society. "
- Fr. Vassilios Papavassiliou
Absolutely. I was sold after my first service. It made me weep quietly to myself, and no one thought I was weird. In fact they knew I had made it home finally! It brings tears to my eyes just thinking about it. Now I get sad when I have to leave town to areas with no Orthodox Church, and can not wait to get back home to attend Matins and Liturgy.
This is perhaps one of the best videos I’ve watched. I didn’t agree with EVERYTHING, however the Charity, nuance, reflection, and contextual awareness employed by both of you in presenting the spirit Eastern Orthodoxy is very refreshing in a media environment that polarizes everything (especially between Romans, Eastern Catholics, and Orthodox). It’s “Not about defeating enemies, but winning brethren.” Just a great neighborly approach and Christlike. I would love it if you had Father back to get into more details on the Eastern Catholic and Eastern Orthodox relationship as compared to that of Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox.
I'm so glad that you enjoyed it! I was personally very encouraged by the idea of not defeating enemies but winning brethren as well. A conversation on Eastern Catholics could be interestin
Does calling me a neo nasi inc3L count as “piously winning a brother”? Since Fr Damick has subtly called out me and Fr Heers here is my old reply. St mark of ephesus said what he said before florence lol, so thats out of context:
ua-cam.com/video/cHiXI7E4Ui4/v-deo.html
What minute is he talking about you?
Thanks for posting the reply jay 👍
@@dr.klausschwab6184 1:06:03 I believe
@@HammerHeadzzz I think it was from about 1:02:00 onwards, and at 1:03:35 he indirectly slanders Fr. Peter Heers.
You are hands down, the most polite interviewer I’ve ever watched. I’ve been binge watching your Orthodox interviews all day, and it’s wonderful. Huge props
Thank you so much!
I like how Gospel Simplicity engages Christians from all denominations. He obviously has his own convictions, but he doesn't let anyone see them and is neutral about the whole issue...
Glad you enjoy the approach that I take to these interviews!
Your right Austin I have struggled with that rejection of all thing in my past, but planning a funeral for my mom in her protestant tradition and my former tradition. It made me realize that Jesus will be faithful to his promises even through their may be some ignorance on all of our parts. And singing "I'll fly away" is still a fun song sing. I have found my faith renewed by becoming Orthodox, but not everything in my past was bad and it is good to recognize that and be thankful and not reject that. We have a prayer in one of our Orthodox prayers books, that non-orthodox would be counted as a part of the Orthodox church I think that is the spirit that we who have found the fullness of the faith should have.
I never could understand why people can't reject everything from the past, especially if it's connected to heresy.
@@christianlacroix5430 Not everything from my protestant upbringing was not orthodox so why should I reject what is good and what is true yes certain things were heresy and those we reject but what was true in my tradition is of God and we should be thankful for those things. Father Josiah Trenham’s Rock and Sand makes this point very articulately.
Love this. Meanwhile, it seems that most Christians in the reformed tradition insist that Orthodox and Catholics are not Christians, period. Sad.
@@hannahb2383 because they mistake Justification by faith alone for the gospel. Jesus is the gospel his life, his death, his Resurrection his victory over the demonic powers, death and sin. A lot of reformed people are trusting in their faith rather than Jesus.
@@swenner64 What an excellent way of putting it!
Excellent! Fr. Andrew has a wonderful spirit & constitution. Will be looking forward to this!
Hope you enjoy it!
Love Fr. Damick. His book Orthodoxy Heterodoxy helped me in my 20 year journey to Orthodoxy. He and Fr. De Young’s podcast Lord of Spirits is legendary.
did you know he hosts pro-lgbt content on Ancient Faith. Did you also know that he also lies about this fact?
@@anOrnithologist where? What did he host? I've only read very sensible and traditional, views on this from Fr. Damick. Genuinely curious!
He hosts pro-lgbt content creators, not content. But still. I get the point. It’s not okay. We unsubscribed after he emailed us saying he booted Abbot Tryphon’s blog from AFM. Bad move. Lord have mercy on us!
The Lord of Spirits podcast is my favorite podcast
@@anOrnithologist I'm glad to hear it. Being Orthodox is not synonymous with being a bigot.
I heard and obeyed! As soon as I read that Fr. Damick’s book is now available, I went over to Amazon and purchased. I loved Orthodoxy and Heterodoxy and now will love Arise, O God. Fr. Damick, please pray for me and my husband as we untangle Protestant tradition and explore Orthodoxy. You are aware of the common things we as former Protestants deal with in encountering the liturgy, saints, icons, the Theotokos, wanting to please God and enter eternal life “In Christ”. My experience so far has been reading voraciously, listening to Fr. John Behr and Fr. Freeman and others; and talking to our friend Fr. Nick, a Greek Orthodox priest. We ask for your prayers.
Have you considered becoming a Traditional Catholic?
@@catholicdoctrine No, because of the problems I see with the Filioque, the infallibility of the Pope (whose decisions of late have destabilized the Church-I feel for faithful Catholics) and while I do honor the Theotokos, I do not agree with the immaculate conception of Mary nor the foundations of that doctrine, coming from Augustine’s theology of original sin. I do respect traditional Catholics, and sympathize with what they are dealing with now under Francis, how the very patterns of worship are changing, I am guessing due to his ecumenism. May God fully bless you in your faith and hold firm to Christ, the anchor of our souls.
@@thestraightroad305 God bless you sister... Stay steady in your way towards Orthodoxy... You are at home.. Prayers from Greece
I am praying for you. As a former Southern Baptist turned None turned Orthodox, the one piece of advice I can give is to do the things that make you uncomfortable, because it is the doing of them that made me understand them. I would never have understood the love of the Theotokos without praying to her or the change that happens in my heart when I kiss icons without doing so.
@@evans3922 Your reply brought tears to my eyes. I am humbled that you would pray for me from so far away. The Body of Christ is alive. Thank you so much, this means the world to me.
I really appreciate what you do GospelSimplicity and I love the huge range of guests you have on, no matter what conflicts are going on between them. I respect that you keep no one from being interviewed, on either side of the internet sphere. I love your position as a neutral and really pleasant searcher/interviewer. Thanks for this channel
Thanks for inviting Fr. Andrew for this interview and for asking him great questions! This was of great benefit to me as I’m sure it was to many others.
Glad you enjoyed it!
A lucid, informative and at times moving conversation. Even at the end of a fiber optic cable it feels good to be in your presence, both of you.
This was a great discussion. As someone who is one of those people who is looking to RC or EO as a former Reformed Baptist, I greatly appreciate Fr. Andrew’s strong condemnation of internet “orthodox” you tubers who bring harm to EO and misrepresent it through their videos. As he said, they may speak some truth but the heart in which they speak is not of Christ and their influence on converts worries me in this new age of internet apologetics. I think this video is a good lesson for inquirers to go to the church not UA-cam to learn and live the faith.
Which ones do you have in mind particular? I personally couldn't find a lot of Orthodox UA-camrs at all
@@FirstnameLastname-py3bc in my experience is more orthos on twitter than youtube
I think they're called "Ortho bros" and the "orthosphere"
Yeah, but those UA-camrs' knowledge is mostly better than of the rest of the world including at least half of the clergy
Personally I barely knew that Orthodox Christianity existed before UA-cam presented me with Theodore Nottingham
Austin, another top interview with a top guest. Thank you. Keep them coming. Blessings from Wales (UK)
Thank you so much for these posts. I only just began my search into Orthadox and your videos are such a great help. Thank you again.
I’m a LCMS Lutheran, but what an edifying discussion from this Christ filled man. Praise God! I also am honored to know that he is a fellow Pennsylvanian.
I sometimes feel that there is much similarity between the Lutheran and Orthodox perspectives
@@esoterico7750 - Yes, I believe that is true on many levels. That dates back to the time of the Reformation when Lutheran theologians reached out and had respectful dialogue with Constantinople. Sadly, we could not reach agreement in all things. But the same love and respect remains. With God, all things may be possible.
@@esoterico7750
It’s similar… but not as far as the doctrine of justification - which is vital. The nice thing is, you can be Lutheran and make the sign of the cross during Liturgy and have icons and such without it being a foreign thing.
@@zarnoffa Are you familiar with the Finnish interpretation of Luther? It is quite similar to orthodoxy. Basically claims that saving faith involves and active in dwelling of Christ.
@@esoterico7750
I’m barely familiar through the latest book by Jordan B Cooper. I am only on the second chapter and he seems to have some disagreements… still reading.
Anyway, the indwelling of Christ is not separate from faith. He dwells in us by faith alone, from beginning to end. This indwelling sanctifies and conforms over time as we grow in His grace.
Romans 8:11
“If the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit who dwells in you.”
Galatians 3:2-3
“Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?”
Fantastic interview! I’m very appreciative of the work Fr. Andrew has done and is doing on numerous fronts. So many good things here about the dangers of Internet Orthodoxy, the importance of walking the path, not just reading about, talking about, arguing about the path. That’s been a big lesson for me since becoming Orthodox almost 8 years ago. I stood on the other side of the fence looking in for 9 years trying to reason my way in and wasted so much time. For someone interested in Orthodoxy, the best thing you can do is find a local church and attend the services. Pray the prayers, follow the fasts and feast - live an Orthodox life and you’ll learn what it means to be Orthodox.
he is 'internet orthodoxy', he hosts lgbt content on ancient faith, get a clue.
Fr Andrew is one of the best Orthodox priests in the media currently. Anytime I've seen someone slam him it's over something not true.
Fr. Andrew is awesome! Huge fan of his podcasts and can’t wait to read his new book. I’m blessed to live very near Emmaus and have visited his parish many times for various events and services and have loved every interaction I’ve had with him. Love the interview!
Where can I find more interviews of Fr. Andrew?
@@PadiZH I know he has at least 2 with Johnathan Pageau. He also has multiple podcasts
@@Basil_in_the_Wild thank you. I really love his speech.
What a brilliant interview! I really enjoyed Fr. Andrew‘s speech which was full of Christ-filled love!
It was really refreshing to hear his perspective and learn more about Orthodoxy from Fr. Damick - I especially appreciated his grace towards those who may not believe the same as him, and his humility in accepting that he can’t say for certain who will and won’t be saved based solely on what they profess to believe (without coming alongside them in life, and even then, no one can say for certain who is to be saved and who is not). Great interview!
My Favorite Gospel Simplicity interview yet! Job well done.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I was also introduced to Orthodoxy in the late 90's, and back then it was primarily the oral witness of others that persuaded me. However, I never committed until 2011, which was still before the current UA-cam debate trend.
What stood out to me the most is that, Orthodox Christianity is about practical steps on HOW to be a Christian -- discipleship. As my confession father once told me when I asked how not to sin:
1) Every Christian should have a *spiritual rule* (prayers, Scriptures, confession, etc.)
2) Every Christian should have a *spiritual place* (the church and your little personal spot at home)
3) Every Christian should have a *spiritual father* (to help mature in the Faith, bear fruit and be a blessing to others)
How beauutiful are the feet of them Who preach the gospel of Jesus. Thank you, Father Damick, thank you from Newfoundland.
Another excellent interview Austin. I had viewed a few short videos of Father Andrew on youtube in the past and this interview makes me want to listen to more of him. Although not Orthodox myself, I appreciate our Orthodox brothers and sisters and appreciate the Father's comments and the spirit in which they are given.
YESSSS! Can’t wait for this!!🙌🏻
Hope you enjoy it!
Fr Andrew co hosts a podcast with my Priest, Fr Stephen, in the Lord of Spirits podcast. I think you'll definitely like Fr Andrew, he's smart and down to earth. God bless you!
That's a wonderful podcast!
Having Fr Stephen as your priest is like having a cheat code.
It's a great blessings, I hope you're enjoying it, brother!
I'm definitely going to look forward to this. I have listened to the Orthodoxy and Heterodoxy podcast and am excited for this interview
Orthodoxy and Heterodoxy Podcast?? Thanks for telling me!
Hope you enjoy it!
I learned so much listening to his Orthodoxy and Heterodoxy podcast!
Fr Andrew Damick dropped incredible knowledge at our Church retreat. He is wonderful. The very best part is, he dropped knowledge on minds who were able to take that and continue to cultivate and grow it. It makes me proud he talked to my Spiritual Father and my Orthodox brothers so they can continue to share knowledge with me. Highly recommend if you're reading to get him to a retreat. It's great seeing great Orthodox minds educate my Church. He's really in tune with what he's talking about, and super passionate and Loving of Our Lord.
And Thank you so much for being such a wonderful sweet host. You helped me grow. And understand growth as cultural. I've been talking with my brother about everything Damick improved in my life. I wish him lots of Love from Our Lord Jesus Christ. And just grateful he's improved my love for my Church and our Lord. Thanks for to my Church for being there for me and using my time wisely.
God bless Fr. Damick as he puts out more content for new Orthodox Christians than anyone else I know. Always a delight to hear from him, loving Lord of Spirits and Areopagus!
I read an introduction on orthodoxy and i ended up agreeing with all seven ecumenical councils
@C Once. I looked at the services for the Greek Orthodox Church cause that's the closest one to me( I like Antiochian) but I love Greek so ill fit in well. You're reference to the Diving Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom, correct? It is beautiful to see how the Early Church worshipped and memorized and prayed over scripture! And in those early years and throughout Byzantium it was the beautiful languages that the Logos chose in Hebrew and Greek. Is not as well to further your question good sir as to the liturgy of St. Basil that is performed a few times out of the year if im not mistaken, typically during Lent, yes? I have so much to continue to learn.
@C And God be with you too! Too many Protestant churches were all about Bible study during services and Im like "I can do that at home or doing an actual BSF class" not during what should be a divine Liturgy.
there are 8 ecumenical councils.
Another great interview Austin. Thank you.
Thanks for listening!
Great discussion! ☦️🔥🔥
A really inspiring interview. "Seek Christ, Pray,...". Thank you so much to guide us precisely on the right path: life with Christ. Thank you so much for helping us on our journey to Him who is the Way, the Truth, the Life. It is a really powerful testimony... with humility, charity and a well-balanced humanity. (From France, sorry if my English is not perfect!).
Glad you enjoyed it!
Your English is beautiful...
My English is not perfect either but the spirit of the words that is used is what matters.😇
Happy to see Fr. Andrew and you talking about Orthodoxy!
I just ordered your book Fr. Andrew on Amazon. I look forward to reading it!
As always, thank you Austin for you labors.
This video , was amazing !!! On my Spiritual journey much of what I see in protestantism or Catholicism is about getting it right . I love the approach of Just seeking Jesus and he will reveal himself to you . This segment made me want repent for being so argumentative over issues of faith .
Can't wait!!!!
Beautiful ending and fascinating video. Thank you
Thank you Father and thanks Austin for the content ☦️
As a Syriac Orthodox, the differences with Catholicism is not as big as with those with Evangalists and other protestant denominations.
This is my personal opinion though.
I am friends with many Syriac Catholics from Iraq. I was heartened by how the Orthodox and Syriac and Chaldean Catholics there put aside differences to show ISIS what Christian unity can be.
@@FrJohnBrownSJ ISIS = Planned/Predetermined Looting and Slaughter of especially Orthodox Christians by the Masonic New Satanic World Order of which Islam is a branch.
Syriac (and other oriental groups) are also very different from Orthodoxy. One is counterfeit and the other legitimate. It’s like having a fake $100 bill that looks like the real deal but it’s not actually.
@@WinkThatCouture I don't know even one theologian that would describe it that way. Can you point me to a good book I can read that might do a good job of explaining that view?
@@WinkThatCouture Christianity itself, which spread across the world by aggression and deceit, is like the fake bill that looks real, but can never be.
Would Jesus approve of such conversions.
Another excellent interview. Of all the former Protestant converts to Orthodoxy, Stephen Freeman a priest from Mississippi, was the most eloquent and humble in explaining the transition. If you could get a hold of him for an interview, you would more than likely see what l mean. God love you and keep up the great work.
There were a lot of things in this interview that really hit home. Specifically the part about trying to decide which church is the most "correct." Of course having sound Biblical doctrine is important, but I remember basically assembling my points so that I could "defeat" other arguments. Plus I was motivated by refuting the pentecostalism I was raised in. But I can definitely say that my motivations are much clearer and less combative now. When I told my parents I was pursuing orthodoxy, my mom, who was a little unsure of how to respond, said, "as long as you are seeking Christ first." When I heard those words echoed verbatim in this interview, it really took me back to that moment.
Great interview!
Yesssss!!! Fr. Andrew is da bomb! 🥰🙏
Fr. Damick is has been huge in my walk towards Orthodoxy!
This was amazing.
Really good conversation!
Austin, you're my favorite Protestant (sorry, Mom!). I love your open-heartedness and genuine seeking. God bless you.
If Fr. Dammick could quit the crusade vs orthodoxy on social media, especially Jay Dyer who he is obviously bringing up and talking about all the time despite not naming names, he’d be a lot easier to support. I really like his theological content and would like to get his books.
I completely agree. He is so naive when it comes to geopolitical issues that directly affect orthodoxy
I am actually encouraged that he chides anyone who looks at the church through the lens of worldly politics and reminds us that Christ is the point.
@@colmwhateveryoulike3240 You are being deceptive throughout these comments.
@@SeraphimGoose I certainly don't mean to be deceptive. Having been through many paradigm shifts in the search for truth, it is painfully clear how the satan uses wordly political idealogies untied to God to divide and conquer, and unfortunately I see it a lot in online Christian circles. I felt that Fr Daminick did well to sidestep such divisiveness and refocus us on Christ, in whom we are lifted above the confusion of this world. If being Christian involves pittibg oneself against all the enemies of one's group-politic, something is very wrong.
@@colmwhateveryoulike3240 You are of course not wrong about the need for focus on Christ, but the current drama between these two is unfortunately unavoidable and needs to be addressed openly.
Great interview! Austin, I think you’d really enjoy talking with Vitalis Varaioun.
This was really eye opening. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Fr. Andrew's closing comments are exactly why I converted to Orthodoxy nearly 4 years ago after being a cradle Catholic for nearly 40 years. I just felt there were too many distractions, righteous as they may appear, keeping me from a real relationship with Christ. How interesting that hearing a story from a Latin Rite Catholic exorcist priest, Fr. Ripperger, about how the devil tries to keep us from thinking about ANYTHING but God would deliver me to the Orthodox Christian Church.
I also thought Fr. Andrew did a good job of putting into words how I have felt about all the discontinuity in Roman Catholic worship, so thank you for that, Fr.Andrew!
Excellent interview, and excellent material from Fr. Andrew. Orthodox Christian here who found this helpful & encouraging. I especially appreciate the care with which Fr. has formulated his thoughts. He is faithful to Orthodox faith without merely parroting others or cliches or expected phrasing.
Fascinating, thank you.
This was awesome! Thank you and God bless ❤️
As many have said, father Stephen Freeman would be a great person to interview. I think his book Everywhere present - Christianity in One-Storey Universe would be eye-opening for so many Christians. Where do we believe God really is? Somewhere up there? Or here with us?
I must say his last statement about not living in your head and having a prayerful life was very powerful! As a person who looks into debates on what’s right or wrong. Kind of was a wake up call! Just trust God. God bless Austin thank you for your work! Lol it’s crazy to me that you know so much of Christian history and haven’t converted to either catholic or orthodox! I took a deep dive into all of this and have had such a major conflict inside my head trying to figure out what is right lol😂
I found that to be a wake up call as well!
I think Austin has a distinct tendency to either one of two faiths but he doesn’t want to talk about it YET.
If my experience is anything to go by, your head will not figure it out ever. Keep peace in you heart and God will show you the Way...... He led me East ....
@@gillianc6514 Hey, thanks for this comment, it's helpful to me right now.
Fr Andrew- intelligent and articulate as always.
Excellent talk !
Glory to God
Fr . Andrew, it was an absolute pleasure for me to watch this video. You are one of the most dedicated, Christ centered, honest and holy priests I’ve ever met or listened to Catholic or Orthodox. I see Christ all over you. To tell you the truth I know Catholic priests that are as zealous as you but unfortunately they’re not the majority. I’m an Armenian Orthodox but I also love Catholic devotions like the Holy Rosary ❤️❤️❤️ and the Divine Mercy Chaplet ❤️❤️❤️. I also pray the Orthodox Jesus prayer all day long along with other prayers. But I agree with you that the Catholic mass has become quite casual (God forgive me) and quite permissive of immodest clothing and things like that and I have commented on these issues to many priests but they don’t listen. You are right that there is much more reverence in the Orthodox Church and I LOVE it. God is HOLY and all worship and reverence is due to Him.
God bless you father, I’ll be praying for you.
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Great work!
Thank you fr. Andrew.
I really appreciate the discussion on worship. One thing I really became discouraged about was the way “worship” is often handled in my tradition.in many cases it is almost idolized for its own sake by some, or used as a method of attraction to outsiders or seekers. It’s viewed as an asset or liability based on how good the talent is or how well it is performed. But worship is for God. Only then can it nourish humans. That, I think, is the perspective and practice of the Divine Liturgy.
Jay Dyer's work has been absolutely invaluable in my discernment process. (Jay is one of the people Fr. Damick indirectly slanders after the 1hr mark.) He's not without personal flaws, but he has told his audience and me personally on many occasions that he is not a spiritual guide or theologian, and that he should not be referred to as such. Frankly, I think that anyone who would let the affect of one man dissuade them from looking into Orthodoxy was not earnestly seeking the True Church in the first place.
It's also worth noting that Jay has been instrumental in a kind of dissident Right-to-Orthodoxy pipeline. If this seems like a bad thing to you, you are in need of some serious reflection. Orthodoxy has softened my heart and deracialized my attitudes (which had only become racialized since 2017-2018), and I wouldn't have found the Church without Jay's work. Fr. Damick is out of touch.
Sometimes virtue is not able to speak to a darkened mind and only an sinful Christian is able to speak the language of others who suffer from pathologies too. This is why Dyer is able to be so effective with converting people into Ortho Bros. Stay with the faith and what speaks to you may be very different in 10-20 years
@@ContemplativeSoul sounds like piety signaling. One person is causing division and the other isn't.
Omg, you are an angel, 😇 your voice is so pleasant and calm. And you are so humble 😊
Those last words hit like a truck. Thanks.
Please pray that Austin and his fiancee becomes Orthodox.
@@HeddvildNo the acts of the Photian council would disagree. Circa 867 ad. You should check it out.
@@HeddvildNo are you kidding me.
@@HeddvildNo Glory to the Lord Jesus. The Orthodox Church is the Church instituted by the Most Holy Son of God.
@@HeddvildNo my friend, no isn’t a good approach. Why don’t you actually look it up. It’ll give some new perspective
@@HeddvildNo Orthodox are Catholic just not Roman Catholic. Also, the RCC doesn't agree that Orthodoxy is heresy as that would mean the Byzantine churches would be in heresy.
Request- Ft Stephan Freeeman!! He’d be a perfect continuation of this spirit of “orthodoxy of the heart”.
Seconded!
He’s my priest! :-)
that's a retarded idea
Great interview! Would like to suggest if you also could interview someone from the Ethiopian Orthodox church too.
The essence of the Orthodox Church worship is distilled in Christ's words "I am with you always". The presence of Christ is in the Liturgy and if you desire Christ, you desire the worship and His Church. And this is not just an idea. It is His answer to me. As an Orrhodox Christian I wanted so much and prayed so much to see and feel Him. And that was His Easter gift to me. To speak and tell me "I am with you always". In here and right now. Always.
Please, come to Church for Easter celebration Austin, starting this comong Saturday pf Lazarus.
I liked what Father said about God being involved in what church one ends up in! Coming from RC through Hinduism and then spending almost 20 years in Protestantism and RC again before finding Orthodoxy at the ripe old age of 56, I think God gave me Orthodoxy at the exact right time. It would have been too difficult for my selfish nature any earlier and I probably wouldn’t have stayed! Also, now I can talk to those in the other traditions that I was part of about my experiences and hopefully help them see the beauty, goodness and fullness of Truth that is Orthodox Christianity! 🙏🏻☦️🙏🏻
Glory to God...Praise the Lord
Saint Silouan (1866-1938) "hailed all men as bearers of the Holy Spirit, of that Light of Truth which to some degree inhabits and enlightens every man. The man who knows this Light beholds it in others." (From Saint Silouan's biography by Saint Sophrony, 1896-1993)
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Great video! Regarding the Catholic/Orthodox divide on Liturgy-focus, Doctrine-focus, and Discipline-focus, I think there is a single issue that arises again and again: Authority.
We know that men in authority-positions make bad decisions sometimes. YET, we know that Christ gave us offices of authority of SOME kind, in the Church, both to SERVE us and to UNIFY us.
We know that we are sometimes morally-obligated to go along with a bad decision, even though we disagree with it, out of loyalty to the authority instituted by Christ. (IF it was.)
YET, we ALSO know that we are sometimes morally-obligated to disobey an evil command, even when it is made by a person in an office of authority, because the decision exceeds the proper authority of his office, and thus doesn't bind us to obedience.
All are agreed about the above; so, the question is: How do we play that out? How do we distinguish what is and isn't binding? When IS, and when ISN'T, it possible for a valid authority to "bind" us to something incorrect? Doctrine? Morals? Liturgy? ARE there any topics where it can be wrong, but still binding?
I think we agree that if a bishop says, "Murder this person for me," we say, "No." We don't obey even our bishop, if our bishop commands us to disobey the Law of God.
But what if a bishop says, "You shall hold, as a matter of faith, that Palamism is true in such a way that wherever Thomas Aquinas' views seem to conflict on Essence/Energies, Palamism is correct and Aquinas is in error; and if anyone holds otherwise, he is in heresy and may not commune." Is such a ruling binding on all the faithful? If not, why not? If so, upon what principle? Could it ever be reversed? If it could plausibly be reversed, what would that mean? I mean, if it later WERE reversed, how could we thereafter hold that it wasn't an error, initially? ...and, if it could possibly have been an error initially, how could we ever have thought it "binding?"
And what if a bishop says, "Add this cheesy puppet thing into the liturgy, to keep the preschoolers entertained" ...? That's irreverent. It'll literally hurt evangelization and chase teenagers out of Christianity. "Lex orandi," and all that. Seems like a horrifyingly dumb move. But, is it a command to commit a moral evil? Is lame worship the same as sacrilege? Is it possible for one early tradition's liturgical practice to seem off-putting to another tradition's, without either of them being actually in error? Bad aesthetics, as such, are not a violation of the Ten Commandments...or, if we say that non-excellence in divine worship constitutes a failure to worship, then we're stretching definitions in a very debatable way. But that which is debatable, different laity will come to different conclusions about. SO: Do we resist the bishop, or not? Is this a time for obedience, or pushback? If pushback produces schism, is this a time for schism? Is there ever such a time?
We MUST resolve such questions, if there is ever to be an objectively-identifiable thing in the world called "Christianity," and not a thousand competing things vying for that title, with every layperson helplessly making his best guess about which system allows him to faithfully follow Christ! I mean, honestly: If tomorrow, an atheist plumber receives an insight from the Holy Spirit that Jesus is the Son of God and really rose from the dead (and no more than that), what is he to do? How shall he find "the Church?" ...when the "Yellow Pages" (apologies for the dated reference) contain pages-upon-pages of "churches?"
Authority can produce unity IF, and ONLY IF, questions like these can be answered, and we can KNOW that they were answered, and KNOW that God has authorized and approved the answers.
And IF we arrive at a conclusion about Authority, it will follow of logical necessity that sometimes we will watch in resigned vexation as divinely-authorized authority figures fail us badly. We may well be obligated to join a Church where the liturgy is bad, because the authority-view is correct (and one where you have to obey authority even when it screws up the liturgy). OR, we may be obligated to join a Church where the liturgy is good but the doctrine is full of unresolved and unresolvable debates, because the correct authority-model protects liturgy but not doctrinal certainty, resulting in disunity and indifferentism.
Either would happen, will happen, depending on what the correct model for Authority in the Church is.
So, it all comes down to authority. That question must be resolved FIRST, before we pick our favorite church on the basis of "Best Liturgies" or "Most Well-Fleshed-Out Doctrinal System."
As a Roman Catholic troubled by Pope Francis I am considering fleeing to Orthodoxy. Say a prayer for me.
God bless you and guide you to His Orthodox Church by the intercessions of our Most Holy Virgin Mary and Theotokos and all His saints...The best decision in your life.. Trust in God
I would caution you to seriously do your research. Orthodoxy is not the same thing as Catholicism just with no pope. Also, unless you are of an ethnicity that is orthodox (Russian, Greek, etc) it can be hard to fit in.
@@lespritdelhistoire There are parishes in the US made up entirely of converts and there is also the Orthodox Western Rite which the Latin Liturgy but adjusted to Orthodox beliefs:
ua-cam.com/video/0p6J-bQekuk/v-deo.html
I'm praying for you! Do NOT leave the Catholic Church. Stay and help fight the evil infiltration that is causing such upheaval. Jesus will not abandon His Catholic Church. The evil infiltrators will receive their just punishment. God is not mocked.
@@lespritdelhistoire I belong to a Greek Orthodox church in Michigan. Our congregation is made up of about 30 percent Greek immigrants and 70% converts and Greek Americans, born in the US. Services are done in mostly English 80+%. Sermons are 100 percent English. Our priest is a Baptist convert, born in the south. Yes, he does know how to do the entire service in Greek too, but usually taylors it to his congregation
Hi Gospel Simplicity, I’ve been loving the videos you’ve been making about Eastern Orthodox, but I would highly recommend that you try to make a video or two about the Oriental Orthodox Church. It consists of 6 autocephalous churches who accept only the first three ecumenical councils unlike the rest of the church. I am a member of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, which is the most ancient Christian church in Africa and is part of this communion. If you’re interested, I can help you with finding some people you could interview about this subject. God bless!
Stay tuned! I should have a church tour and interview coming up soon, Lord willing
God bless you from an Eastern Orthodox. May God reunite us soon ☦️♥️
Wow, that guy just opened my mind and eyes with this conversation with you. Very interesting and fascinating.
It truly pushes me hard on how to really be a “christian”… I’m not talking about conversion I have been baptized for the forgiveness of my sins as a believer, I’m talking about how focusing on doctrine (in general) really damages the walk of the christian and his worship.
Anyways, this is why I love studying the Orthodox mind and their spirituality… and their focus on it, instead of the normal focus on doctrine from Catholicism and Protestantism (in general).
Thanks again, Austin.
Thank you father, you think exactly as I do
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"because I was baptized when I was one!"
Can't wait to see it!