Love the graphics. Handwriting also very interesting, almost like a font of regular guy script. Maybe you know them already but in manufacturing we use the 5 Why's to get at root cause. It's a lot like you description of thinking things through at the end of the video. I don't think that people 10,000 years ago were less intelligent than people today. I hope that you were using tribes/Romans/Medieval describing the lower levels as analogy only; Aristotle et al.
I think this explaisn why i cant be in the moment as often as others + why my brain overheats more often than it should. Thank you for the visual break down.
I'm almost 30. I've been at a new job for about a month now. Yesterday, for casual Friday, I wore a normal tshirt. My boss called me over and politely talked to me, saying I need to wear collared shirts. Keep the casual professional. He was very nice about it. And I felt anxiety for 30 mins because I had done something wrong. I grew up with unforgiving parents and deal with this kind of stuff internally, but I'm getting better at it recently. Anyways. I wanted to just go home and change so I didn't feel bad anymore. I thought about how my boss might have been stressed because maybe HIS boss mentioned it to me and he felt like HE did something wrong. And I caused all of that stress. I didn't like that. But. I realized I was being ridiculous. I told myself it's just a shirt and I'll fix it next time. And I was able to do that because I have become able to see how I emotionally respond to things and why I respond that way. I've been changing a lot of things recently since moving past some unhealthy attachments and I've been able to do so because I can see how and why I react the way I do. I think about why I do it and if what I'm so worried about is actually something to worry about. Most of the time it isn't. I feel like this self awareness puts me most of the time at a 8.
The real final level is sitting here doing the drawings and then organising all of the thoughts and articulating it to be understood by the audience you have. Bravo :)
The completed final level looks like this ua-cam.com/video/xyYhZTy_Abo/v-deo.html And the way there, explained in the same yet slightly different way ua-cam.com/video/6i8bnb4dvvg/v-deo.html
I'm not joking or being hyperbolic, this is the first video I've EVER watched in 15+ years of chronically being on UA-cam that a video has made me felt SEEN. truly, in every sense of the word, down to my bare essence, SEEN. I know it's understandably likely that you won't read this, but I can't thank you enough for creating this video.
I hear that. I come watch this video every so often for the same reason. I have an observation to put forth: if u are a guy dating at level 7, u basically can’t talk about your beliefs with your girl cause there’s a .01% chance she’s on that level. Isolation: They feel disconnected because so few people share their worldview or can even grasp it. • Frustration: Engaging with lower-level thinkers often feels limiting, even alienating, as others may reject or misunderstand their ideas. • Compatibility Issues: Whether in friendships, relationships, or professional environments, they struggle to find people who truly "get" them. These frustrations create deep emotional and intellectual pain, leaving them searching for solutions, validation, and a sense of belonging.
This does create significant friction, especially when you enjoy discussing deep, complex concepts that others may not understand- or worse, may feel threatened by.
@@micahblu9168 and then gradually what can happen (and seems worse the younger you are) is you begin to lower your expectations of the world and yourself to such a degree that all things are mediocre and you settle into a mediocre role for the duration of a mediocre life or become Jim Carrey in Yes Man and maybe even get the girl. For example, I am now satisfied with submitting run-on sentences.
Sure, those who don't overanalyze might do more things, but are those things they are doing helpful, harmful, meaningful, or mindful? Are those things contributing towards a greater goal? Additionally, even if one can perceive the higher levels of thinking, they are not unable to see/use the lower levels of thinking when they are the best fit for the situation. There is a need and a function for higher level thinking. And it seems like at level 9 thinking, one would be able to know exactly where to target the issue and from what perspective in order to achieve their goals. That's exactly the part I struggle with. I can see the whole tangled web, but where do you start to begin untangling things? If you start carelessly, the web could completely fall apart and cause more problems because it is a delicately interwoven system of systems.
Yes, I can attest that as a person who has crippling OCD, just an inbalance of having too much glutamate on some regions of the brain can make you not be able to make a lot of things while at same time getting why everyone is the way they are and you just wish you could live at the moment like you were as a child, it is a progress of losing your ability of living at the moment while observing that and being less able to rationalize what to do about that because what would actually work is to not rationalize at all, that can't be solved with rationalizing more, only with living at the moment. But then again, you are stuck already, how can you just not rationalize once you been there...
I had to claw my way up in the dark trying to figure this all out. So so happy to see it being put so succinctly in an easy-to-understand manner. Thank God you didn't let the fear of doodles stop you, please don't let anything else stop you either. I never comment but this needs to blow up so more people can see it.
Trust me this information is presented to you for the entirety of your life you just choose to ignore it. Lets not act like we wake up and spend 8 hours a day working on our consciousness and awareness. We all work for uncle sam. What do you think is gonna happen if more people see this video? People see college and dont go dude... The knowledge been there, but ignorance is more fun
@@PerryCali I feel like theres a difference between knowing and understanding. I knew about this for a long time but didn't "understand" and actually resonate with it until recently, as I can tell that my entire perspective and attitude has changed.
@PerryCali that's true. But it's not the only issue. Some people don't even know this kind of information even exists... not cauz of ignorance but accessibility, for others its just incocievable because they have lived a certain way too long. Making these things mandatory human knowledge in the education system is a good start for global inlightenment and betterment.
thinking about thinking is a little like being your own therapist in your head. just, "and why does that make you feel that way?" "well," and then you continue on that.
I try to explain this to people that suggest therapy to me, I don't need guidance to open that part of my brain, which is their main purpose. Contrary, often times the reason I'm feeling less than enthused is because of the deep level at which I can understand things, and see how fucked the world really is lol.
@@codyabbott4791 Brother, I understand you. My whole life I’ve felt a cloud over my head, a gloomy depressed feeling because of the high level of existential intelligence i’ve gained at an early age and the heavy anxiety it caused to me as a child knowing how screwed we are going to be in the next 20-40 years, at this point in time as a species, all because the current population’s norm is to refuse to think at a higher level, the culture is book=geek, zero awareness of how many prominent historical figures were warriors and revolutionaries that were intelligent humans. But thats a huge rabbit hole i probably shouldn’t ramble on about to you.
@@StealthyMaizero i have an entirely different perspective. im observing a strange uptick in consciousness in normal people. the sheep continue to be lost, but the conscious-class is growing. leaders are being developed and im optimistic about the future of this world, specifically for oppurtunity for those who wouldnt ever see opportunity if they were born 50 years ago.
@@codyabbott4791 Do you think that therapist don’t see the world at a deep level and therefore wouldn’t be able to provide any guidance for your situation? What level would people that make these sort of assumptions be at?
This video made me realize often when I get frustrated in conversation with people, what I’m talking about just goes way over their head. I think if I’m smart enough and say everything right, I can make them understand. But someone who lives their life at level 3-4 is simply not going to be able to participate effectively in a level 7-8 conversation.
PLEASE DO NOT CHANGE YOUR DRAWING STYLE. It gives this channel a lot of personality, it feels kinda great to see that such complex ideas can be representated with such simple drawings (even though I almost colapsed when I firstly saw the chart about thoughts levels). I love these channel, you really explain things I thought no one would never talk about in social media, it's like a dream turn reality
Totally agree with him, the content is way deeper to focus on the graphics, since they only visually support you explaining. Totally loved your personality. Subscribed!
That's both way to true if you actively think about these concepts and not really the case once you internalize the core consequences that apply to you personally.
You’re not really number 9. You’re just pretending to be. Number 9 is equivalent to zen state/buddah. Somewhen in the state is chopping wood and getting water. The exact same way as level 1. They’re just aware they’re doing it
This is such a great explanation of why 2 kids in the same family are not really raised by the "same" parents or in the same way. When siblings say they were raised the same, I always think about this
i actually remember the exact moment i reached level 3 lol i had the most mindbending moment in my elementary school bathroom when i looked in the mirror and it suddenly hit me all at once that when others see me they only see my shell, they don’t see my interior experience or my character or anything like that. they just see what i see in the mirror and that’s it. i’ve never forgotten that moment. it was really sad for me, actually. i felt profoundly lonely and misunderstood in that moment. and i still feel like that to this day, actually.
I think we reveal a little of what goes on inside with our interaction with each other. How much depends on how vulnerable you're able to be around that person. It's like the difference when people know you but they don't know you like a loving parent might because they've had more exposure to that authentic self.
Becoming sentient is crazy. I remember the first time it occurred to me in like jk that other people had thoughts and experiences like my own and they should be considered real and respected. It hit me like a train. My whole behavior pattern changed forever.
They only see the outside and the strawman they conceive. However, you make them aware that you are a living soul by speaking from your heart consistently and living out your God given purpose.
And now your eyebrows, eyelashes, lips, skin tone and hair color are fake to try to appear better to others than you really are. Still some climbing to do.
The next level is realizing that those other people don't exist at all. This is comforting until you make the logical leap that you don't exist either. That is the final level, since then you realize there are no levels. Just a cloud of hydrogen that was left alone for way too long.
It's crazy for someone else to explain so neatly something you have been trying for your whole life to understand. I like that you stated that higher levels of thought doesn't exactly mean they are better, I've struggled with anxiety my whole life and I definitely get trapped in loops of overthinking and decision paralysis. I have learned in my adult years that sometimes its okay to chill at the lower levels and just be yourself. But I think if everyone had even just one breakthrough moment where they thought at higher levels, we would have a much better understanding of our world and how to live happily with one another.
decision paralysis =/= higher levels. same for overthinking. you can overthink from the same single perspective, and have decision paralysis from one frame of view, while neglecting other frames of view. you can also 'chill' at higher levels, especially if it's bringing you answers to questions that could not be answered at lower levels, and allowing you to be more productive than you would have been otherwise, and therefore content with your improvement. there are many examples of this. I think anxiety is more of a nervous system problem and can happen at any level, low or high.
lvl 1: > i want donut lvl 2: > me and other want donut lvl 3: > me and others want donut lvl 4: > me and others want donut but rules first lvl 5: > me and others want donut but rules second science first lvl 6: > me and others want donut but rules AND science AND religion AND tribe AND etc all together lvl 7: > me and others want donut but rules doesn't want donut. Remove rules lvl 8: > me and others want donut but rules OR science OR religion OR tribe OR etc lvl 9: > i dont know if I want the donut
Right and best is situational… that’s what you realize at second tier…and as you climb higher you still retain access to the lower levels. In fact not having them as a solid foundation can make you dysfunctional even when you are at higher levels of awareness. Which is why it is important to understand the impact of trauma in undermine that foundation. The climb is important because you become more versatile and less reactive to other people. You see people less in terms of good and bad and more in terms of different degrees of being awake. The less awake they are the more people and things they bump into.
@@metagorgeThis is important, this is where you SELF diagnosis issues, to further research, to than bring to doctors a host of symptoms, to find a treatment plan, not for labels or money, or even health, but for every reason imaginable, positive and practical, again Occam's razor is super important here, especially when debating what's best to even tackle. But stagnation is intolerable at a higher level... And realizing you have severe issues, can be quite crippling. Because you realize the dissociative mindfuck you are as a human being... ADHD meds, figuring that out about myself, gave me everything you described... until, I split on a woman again in my life. Horrific experience for everyone involved, after YEARS. Getting BPD/DBT treatment soon... wish everyone was this morally responsible or tries to be 😂😂
Man, you must be quite smart to be able to explain such a complex topic and make it make sense in a short amount of time, amazing video. I loved that you let us download your chart
Your dead on the money, meditation is definitely key. Meditation helps your mind expand but not just meditation alone, your mind has to be willing to expand and you cannot expand if you do not make room for more ideas to enter your mind unbound by biases. The more you can open your mind and be less judgmental the more room for expansion. Nuance is key for true growth, when you press in to learn more and understand more both light, dark and everything in between the universe unfolds everything in front of you. It's like staring into the abyss, the abyss stares back into you. Likewise the universe, don't stop, keep pushing. Leave not one stone left overturned and life as you know it will look like a matrix. More layers will peel back and just observe, lvl 9 is where it's at but only if you can handle it. You have to open your own mind to expand that far, it's a matter of one's own will to make a way. Will you tell yourself you know enough or will you open up to be once more surprised that this universe is in communion with you.
A lot of "esoteric" or "occult" stuff from early ages are legitimate things. A lot of Eastern practices like meditation have actual positive brain effects, and magick in Europe prior to Christianity, half of it was just proto-psychology rituals for self-development and discipline.
Meditation and mindfulness is definitely a level 6 practice, 100%. Level 7/8 is observing the results of, and influencing the direction of that mindfulnes, as well as accepting multiple lifestyles and cultures while also believing they exist better separate than they do together. Level 6 would put everyone together. Yuri Bezmenov detailed how meditation/mindfulness was specifically capitalized on by the KGB as a cultural weapon against Americans in order to specifically create the problematic cultures that were directly brought up by hoe_math as a result of 6 thinking. Level 7 thinking is the worldview supported by modern Russia now instead.
"I am not the main character, I am just the spotlight [...] If we want a better world and a better life, we have to learn where and how to shine that light." That was a great way of expressing the 'point' of a lot of meditative practices and eastern mysticism dealing with level 9 stuff.
Which completely obliterates the concept of thinking about thinking. Eastern misticism is all about being in the present moment and radical awareness, they knew thoughts were a poorly constructed theories of reality, and knowledge through learning and experience was much more valuable than any thought your head can produce. Meditation if done correctly actually DETACHES you from your thoughts and grounds you in the present experience.
@@pango4646 south asian spirituality and philosophy is mind-numbingly complex. as someone studying it, I've realized all paths can lead to this same conclusion of identifying as the witness as the ultimate level of consciousness. but even that isn't the last step in some parts of indian spirituality/philosophy. some traditions say that after this identifying as the Witness, you achieve self-realization, and after that is natural Joy. this is what Shiva and Shakti represents, for example.
This makes so much sense, i feel like im always at level 8, recognizing something and making choices while under the awareness of other people's thoughts and through my memories of the thing im recognizing and the outcome of those memories, making a decision.
Well I feel like I can understand level 9 but in how I act and how I decide based on how I lived and what raised me and my genetics I act more on the level 4-5 Like the donut example yeah once he pointed it out it opened my mind but I know for damm sure beforehand and a lot of times after this I will end up grabbing the doughnut and just thinking "I'm hungry might as well" instead of all the choices that lead me to make that decision I dumb it down to "I'm hungry"
@@judahiscool3659 yeah that's the thing, your thoughts are constantly in flux, someone might undetstand a higher level and have moments of lucidity where they consider them before acting, but most of the time people probably act a level or 2 lower than they could, I think being consciously aware of the levels of thought helps
I spend most of my time at level 7 and 8, I look at everything objectively, I have almost no emotional connection to politics, to culture, etc And when I do, I realize immediately and get embarrassed at the fact that I was even thinking like that. I'm only 16 so I don't really make choices to be honest, all I can do is plan what choices I make in my future. But I do silently look at the choices of everyone around me, being absolutely shocked at how many unreasonable choices people make. Having children while being unfit(not enough money, smoker, drinker, unhappy etc), purchasing expensive vehicles, entering relationships that don't benefit them and so much more. I realize that most people make choices that make them feel best at that time, just the idea of them making that choice makes them happy. You see this a lot in low rated chess players, they play a move just because they liked the move, and didn't look at everything else going around in the game.
@baconbutter4857 You are not always at level 8 it is a hard mental state to achieve and therefore difficult to maintain. You spend your life like 99% of humans at level 1-3 and then when you interact with others you move up the levels as appropriate depending on your personal circumstance. Sleep level, caffeine level, sugar level relationship level etc ...
I think in 7 days racking up to almost a million views really shows that you perfectly explained something that alot of people struggle with. Definitely worth the half hour… im amazed
Well a lot of that is a purchased promotional package. It comes with fake subs, likes, and comments. I'm not saying that someone should never do this, I'm just saying that's probably what went on.
@@legalfictionnaturalfact3969 Wait sorry, what result exactly? I don't see how fake subs lead to a video doing well (if that's what you mean). Please enlighten me.
"The levels of consciousness are not good or bad, it's self-awareness" that's good of you to point out, because I sit at a level 8 most of the time, and the bills aren't even paid yet. Sometimes you just watch and have no desire to be human now.
Yes!!! I have to force myself to engage in reality. I am constantly working on grounding. Especially since my family relationships aren’t great (mom is a narcissist) not having relationships to ground you can be dangerous. That’s why I stress duality, not oneness. Oneness is a reality in other realms, but ego and separation are a reality in this realm. You have to remember both truths.
@@gooble69 exactly, if I can see it, I can figure it out on my own more or less. Just hearing it is like listening to someone give directions. Instantly forgotten once the trip starts
I got chills as you explained 8 and 9. You described me better than I could describe myself. Everything in my consciousness got super weird a while back and I've been stuck feeling confused but also understanding more at the same time. I'm now able to adjust where I'm at and come back to a healthier level...thank you so much
I found myself emotional watching this. I feel like I've sought truth out of the universe too long and not only did I not find answers but I feel like I've isolated my way of thinking from others. I don't feel as alone now and the thought that somewhere out there someone else felt what I felt watching this makes me happy. An elevated consciousness means nothing if you forget the basics. Thank you for your video.
I understand how you feel, as time has progressed and we become more self aware we realize the way we think, and notice our separation from others. I don't like proclaiming intelligence on any level but I know that as we increase the depth of the thought we can generate and understand, we tend to solve, live, think, feel and separate from others. This is isolating as the fact we can be viewed by other humans for having a different thought be seen as immoral and labeled as a bad person, very isolating. But it takes time to realize that sometimes the best thing to do is to fit in. Which is probably why higher levels are not intrinsically better. I found that the best way to cultivate this idea and expand volume of consciousness is to connect with other people of similar depth. Just always keep in mind, we aren't better that anyone else, and no one holds superiority, as to err is to be human. so always keep an open mind. Good luck on your journey, friend.
for me trusting the universe and that everything will be okay is the only thing that keeps me going atp. the one thing i know is that its my friend so ill just accept what its doing for me 🤷♂
I have discovered that the key is learning to "tune in" to the different consciousness levels being expressed or utilized by the individual or group, as well as being consciously aware enough about the advantages(or lack thereof) of discerning whether it is an optimal action for you(myself) to interact with them or not. To practice, you have to engage with almost all the variations of consciousness levels expressed by different beings at their own levels, however once you get the hang of it(or at least when it seems obvious for you to) you choose to associate with those that will optimize your life as well as the lives you too can optimize as well(some are more receptive than others to "change" lol). Like a string(or in groups, strings) on a guitar, you must learn to understand and be able to recognize the tension(or lack thereof) of each consciousness level, learn to adjust your own to each variation for maximum harmony, and generate the unique symphony of experience we all love called Human Being, filled with both Joy and Suffering, and so much more. Eventually, you will be so adept at it and the community at large will be so attuned to it that you yourself can be one of the main "Strings" that help to tune all the other strings in order to optimize the world and the future of humanity. At least, that's my theory or wish. Regardless, good luck to all who read this, and may God bless you and your loved ones.
I met a lady at a motel but instead of a box of crayons or a little meth, she wanted kfc. Didn't give me a speech though, her mouth was full. But I'm sure she enjoyed the kfc once i left.
I've been studying all of this from psychology and spiritual traditions, and personal experience for decades, but I've never seen it all in one place like this. Thank you
Yes!! It’s funny because people at a lower level will say “all these books and videos all say the same thing but in different packaging, they all just copy each other” but it’s no, they all say the same thing because the truth is the truth and everyone’s coming at it from different angles. It all connects beautifully.
I’m gonna say I’m at a level 7-9 most of the time. It’s both the best and worst thing, so much decision paralysis can happen when you get stuck in your own head.
I feel exactly the same. Idk if I always implement it but I do remind myself of advice I heard out of a book from the 1930s. Basically, people who appear to always make the right decisions are people who make decisions quickly and see out those decisions. So it isn't important what decisions you make but if you align yourself with those decisions. So don't worry about the decision itself, but do what you need to do to make that decision the right one. If you can't decide between going to school for physics or engineering, choose one and do it. The quicker you can make decisions, the better. On another random piece of advice, take the decisions away from yourself. If it's food decisions that bother you then write down foods you like on post it notes and grab one when you can't decide. It's been working so far for me. I get very exhausted by making decisions all the time. It's nice to do things to remove some of that decision making, imo
Is it decision paralysis or just the enormity of complex processes going on that are leading to higher question masquerading as indecision because you haven't experienced it from another dimension in level 11 yet? That's my thinking
my dad sent this to me. thank you for your video. very grateful. i love your drawings. i love everyone who is actually interested in this. anyone who sees this have a blessed day
My therapist calls this objective intellectualizing of my self and told me this is what leads to my analysis paralysis in choosing who I am. She warned me that disintegrating my identity into a collection of processes influenced by time, surroundings and values is what lays at the ground of my panic attacks when I internally realize that knowing will never get me what I want, which is - still - control, but without interfering with the agency of other people around me.
I see what you mean. Alot of times in life we understand things by their opposites as well, showcasing a balance in that form of thinking/feeling. Almost like for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. While I can see that these thoughts lead to a loss of self, at the same time it's your eyes interpreting light waves at whatever interval in order just to percieve, it's your skin detecting energy in the air and that's how we feel heat energy. Our minds interpret this natural world(and only at it's speed, this speed differs from thing to thing) and with every last bodily process we have we internalize this natural world and regurgitate that same info but with our own unique twist. In that way you are creating this world and that's what you have control over, the meaning of it all. And if you wanna be damned by it then you will, if it's freeing than it's freeing.
You have to accept at some stage and others, you MUST interfere with other people's internal agency. There is no escaping this without becoming a self sustaining hermit
My man, you have no idea how easy you made it for me to understand how to properly do shadow work. As much as I love everyone else in the sphere, your explanation was nice and to the point. That example you gave with the illustrations toward the end of the video did better to illustrate proper shadow work than any video I’ve watched since I’ve started this journey. Thank you and I love you
When level 7 was introduced, my mind was blown. I’ve been having a realization over the past few months that i’ve been improving a lot because i’ve spent a lot of time rethinking my actions throughout my life and what motivated them, how others felt, how those feeling would make me feel, how others would view me if they saw me behaved that way, understanding that different people have different views a lot variety of topics that might seem objective at first, accepting people just think differently and have very different views and goals. I started a new job which i drive an hour to and from so i have a lot of thinking time. I’ve thought about my life over and over. I also acknowledge i have a very different mind now then i did prior to college, my life goals feel more narrowed in and my maturity feels more engrained. I understand that comes with time and experiences, both of those turning me who i am today. Such a great video, i will be thinking about this all week Edit: I believe i’ve used level 8 and 9 a decent amount of times recently, for sure when i got close to graduating college, and when i started my new job. After i few times of realizing i was actually fixing bad habits using my mind to reinforce good thoughts and behaviors, i made a mental map of areas of my self i what to work on and broke those areas into bits of benefits and cons. Learning about yourself by examining yourself is one of the coolest things. I still have alot to work on but i can tell improvements have been made and it’s only the beginning
Hey brother, good to hear. Remember though thought isn’t consistent and it’s not you so do not attach yourself to it. No matter how high level it seems, observing is more important ❤ 💯
@@UniversalMusicLtd584 Observing yes, the more watch myself, the more i critique the habits and behaviors i don’t think are beneficial to my long term goals. Reminds of a quote from some story. “They are learning how they learn”
This is the first time Ive seen a whole ass paragraph, like a almost essay like sentences or whatevs the word or sentence im trying to create. This is a bit new.
But did you realize that you were realizing that you were developing and altering habits through time. Did you watch yourself in your observation of observing. Why? Why did you do that? See the thing is there is a level ten. That everyone fears and avoids like the plague. The question is : why? Why do you do any of this? Why watch at all? And then it goes further. Why ask the question why?
The drawings feel more authentic and less pretentious because it avoids the trappings that often characterize such topics. I love it! When I dived into this channel for relationship advice, I never expected to be catapulted into this sort of thing. Thank you!
I often tell people “I don’t feel real”, yet I never related to depersonalization/derealization because I still *feel* things, and I’m not numb. This is the first time I’ve ever listened to, or read, something that explained the state of mind I so love being in. Thank you for sharing your insight with us! ☺️
yeah i also tried telling people what i feel and people told me to stop taking drugs. So since then I dont tell anyone anything and i silently do the things i want in my life to climb the ladder and people are dumbstruck. I don't even say anyone "how" i do it, rather that its just luck. 😂
Are you sure you don't "feel real" or do you just experience feelings of disconnection and transience? It's a basic philosophical axiom that the only thing we can really be assured of as "real" is our own thoughts and being. "I think, therefore I am". It sounds more like you feel as if the world around you isn't "real" rather than you yourself are not "real".
I had a similar experience back in highschool, where I tried explaining to my friends that "I'm not black, (My real name) is, and it's up to him to define what that means to him."
@@AlwaysBetOnDouk it’s hard to describe. I’ve written many poems attempting to, and still don’t feel like I’ve done it justice. But to answer your question, yes, I’m sure it’s not just me feeling as though the world around me is isn’t real!
You might find the books "The Power of Now" and/or "A New Earth" by Eckhart Tolle interesting to read. They are spiritual books that explain what lies beyond the levels described in this video. If you are experiencing what you described, I think those books can be of great value to you. They are not religious or anything. They explain what the mystics through time, from of all traditions were pointing towards, but in a modern clear and accessible language. I can't ask you to trust me on this because who the heck am I? But nevertheless, I'm suggesting it. Good luck on your journey where ever it takes you!
I took AP psychology last year and it when pretty in depth about a lot of these topics, but now just a year later I realize I didn’t really retain a lot of the information that I think was most valuable. I just binged your whole channel and you put things in a way that really stick in a way that reading a textbook doesn’t quite do. I love your videos and I hope this channel makes you rich
you did not retain the knowledge of psychology as it was taught by female lecturers or in their syntax. Check "Sex and Culture" by Unwin + Brave New World by Huxley and you will have wider view on psychology
If you forget easily exercise your mind by jornaling In schools in my cointry they used chalk boaurds for every student and they woulld wipe the chalk away right after they finished the stupidity of it is obvious in retrospective but we do that with good thoughts we dont write down
Your education doesn't stop outside of your schooling there's a enormity of wealth of information online if you can locate and secure reliable trusted sources of information.
Dude this channel is so cool and expresses so many new ideas that I've genuinely never seen anywhere else. So cool that you do this and share your thoughts and thinking with us. Whether it does or doesn't get loads of views, it's so interesting to see these ideas expressed and taught. It's as if you've discovering your own useful branch of psychology and sharing it with the world, super dope stuff.
@@name_adi I don't believe these are original thoughts. people have thought these things before him, and he has probably read up on those texts. there is a chance he has come up with the ideology independent of those texts which is commendable but unlikely imo
@@aryansharma9727 I think its just the fact that hes on youtube and graphically complied them in an easy format which is nice. Anybody that takes information and compiles it to make it easier for people to understand is smart
I never saw a metacognitive breakdown of this before, but this is a banger video. On level 8 there's probably the perception of the passage of time, which changes depending on the scale you're operating at (like flow state.) Many people treat that as accidental and are peripherally of aspects of it, but consciously entering it is on an even higher since it deals with our attention and relationship with time. Being aware of the threshold of consciousness and what lies outside of it, and actively modifying those boundaries to serve us better might be around that level as well. There's so many levels beyond and I hope to keep noticing them now
Isn't passage of time on level 7? I understood that on level 8 you see all the events at the same time as if they were not ordered in time. Like, when you conceive a 4D surface as a MOVIE of a morphing 3D surface, you are on level 7, but when you understand the 4D surface as a whole by understanding it's EQUATION you are on level 8.
I would really think it would be great, but it would probably suck if he tried to force it, talking about things he doesn't like or care about. I mean, let's just hope this dude have interests beyond dating. This video suggests it does. I hope he doesn't fall for that trap of betting always on the money making machine thing (which is easy even for smart people because, you know, involves money), making videos that please the algorithm and not himself. PS: I just got here on the channel, I wasn't even aware of the dating advice theme, but I loved it.
@@21morphathis is the first video I've ever seen from this channel. I like it, but yeah I hope the rest isn't the typical alpha/sigma male bullshite or I'll be gone.
This is the most clearly stated intellectual dissertation I've ever seen someone make on the internet in a long time. Power to you hoe_math. It's like a breathe of fresh air watching this. Time army? LOVE IT! Nice ring to it.
Please. I beg you, get rid of this garbage and adopt the actual levels of thought. These are not them. These are considerations non-indicative of higher thinking. Study Bloom's Taxonomy, it's better.
I finally stumbled upon something that explains my way of thinking! Whenever I deep talk with people, I feel like I'm talking past each other. I always tried to explain that I saw the world in a 'zoomed out' way, but I always had the feeling that I wasn't fully understood.
I'm constantly at an 8. Sometimes I try to 'stop thinking' and then I am passively a 9 but focusing on lower levels. But most of the.time I am a 9 but with nichilistic and owerwealming Perspektive on life so its quite 'depersonalising' and 'derealising' because you cant 'choose' a sertain path. so you are just existing but in a 'philosophical' way. you dont really have passion but thinking about existencial (zoomed out) and psychological (zoomed in) things.
I know exactly what you're referring too. Reading some of these comments about people claiming they're level 7 or above and making my own theories on what is higher than level 9, it's alright people don't understand you. Sometimes I have to realize not everyone thinks at the same level as I do and I have to humble myself and simplify the concept. I honestly believe people operating at this level are neurodivergent because I am, and we will lead our civilization to the stars. We are the future of mankind.
I'd absolutely would love a detailed video per level, what it means, how it would affect one's life, its positives and negatives, what though processes are needed to sustain it and how to train / practice thinkingat that level. Cuz if I just 'sit and think', my mind just races off to epic fantasy adventures and space battles within about 10 minutes.
I was an art major. Keep your doodles as they are. They are a perfect compliment to your spoken word and quick editing style. If thr drawings were any more detailed or more complex it would distract people more and most likely lose viewers. I used to drink heavily and lost my "self". It took me 1.5 years of trial and error and many therapy sessions and CBT lessons to finally become aware of my "self" again and progress through mindfulness exercises. I've had a lot of time to just sit and think during the last 9 years now. Your video has helped me understand and visually compartmentalize the various levels and states of awareness. I think it might be difficult to progress to each next level past the white line without having someone else to talk about and relate to it with. I think I sit somewhere in 6 and waver back and forth down to 3 or 4 and then up to 7.
I’m autistic with ADHD and I’m usuallly on a level 8, if not, level 7. when I get high however, I get wired into level 9 and gradually to go back to level 7-8 once sober. At times level 9 thinking can last for days. Honestly I believe that this is the cause of hyper awareness of masking, sensory processing, and emotional intelligence. As hoe math said, sometimes higher isn’t better, with all that self awareness comes daunting self responsibility and forced self reflection
@@wymsicalguySame I don’t like 8 very well. I found it ironic that level 1 had autism as the pathology but (I high dislike this term) most “HF ASD” people understand up to 7 from an early age and can (doesn’t mean they do) process on 8 a lot due to the constant analysis on their social interactions because we have to do those manually; however, ONLY if they are aware they are autistic. Elsewise you get stuck in the lower levels (under 5). Edit: I agree completely on the sobriety aspect. Unless I’m medicated this does not work.
level 9 is quite literally just monist thinking which has been around for centuries, there are 1 billion teachers for self realization and the process for it, this video just describes A CONSTRUCTED levelling process that isn't correlated with reality in any sense and is entirely based on his experience
i spend most of my time between level 8 and 9 and i have to say it is incredibly exhausting. Every 6 months or so i get a completely different results on my personality tests and it feels like i'm a completely different person and cant recognize myself, sometimes i read text from only 2 years ago and im completely baffled with what i wrote and come to the realization that it literally was a different person as i have change over time due to my subjective experiences and im observing the fact that i observed that. And it makes me realize that i truly have that unlimited possibilities on who i could become and who i am. Its like so to me everything is completely subjective including my own mind and the way i observe my mind is also subjective. "I think therefore i am" feels like it doesnt apply me. Because how can i be sure that that is the case, what about the me that thought 2 years ago, that me was a completely different me, its not the me as i know me today and its definitely not the me that i will be in the future, is the me of today even the me of the future, am I truly even me or even real? What even am I?
Your brain is beautiful, man. A lot of these stuff I’ve thought about before on my own, but I don’t have the skill set nor the knowledge nor the patience to synthesize and order them like this. Your videos really have given me a lot of clarity about a lot of things, and now I’m deeply interested in reading and learning more about psychology. This is becoming one of my favorite UA-cam channels.
One of the hardest things I learn as a teen was something a therapist told me and I hate " Anxiety is extremely individualistic". I FEELS like it's not cause you are always thinking "But what they would think about me?" but you are not actually being aware of other peoples feelings you are just stuck in your head ASSUMING you know what they think. You are extremely aware of your actions and thought but now enough aware of the PROCESS of thought. Thats why (I think) anxiety could be a 6.
I think each level creates new opportunities for anxiety to present itself. Hell even level 1 could be extremely anxiety inducing because the world is a strange confusing place you don't understand.
I agree. For me the assumption of knowing iz based on knowing SELF in which one can understand what others may be thinking in that moment. Now an important thing to remember is it works better when you know said otherz. ÷
I would say I legit reached level 8 in the last week after a profound realization, but I still struggle with anxiety. Like you said there are many reasons for anxiety. Learned response, external stimuli, too selfconscious. I also reflect personalities so if I am around someone super anxious it makes me anxious as well Too small of thinking
also understanding that the most important factor that determines the opinion others have of you is their own sate of mind and their own percepion of reality, and you can't change that, neither you shoud care.
There are two parallels I noticed that are fascinating: 1) how these psychological/societal levels correspond to the explanation of the 10 physical dimensions. 2) how the ancient philosophy of Stoicism defaults at beginning the practitioner at Construct Awareness(Lvl8) and places it's goal making Lvl9 the default Lvl1 perspective, which could be said to be the goal of other philosophies/religious traditions(Buddhism for example), but it is the only such philosophical tradition I'm aware of that is fundamentally constructed to begin at such a high level of awareness instead of gradually achieving it. Great Videos btw, thank you for doing what you do.
oh brother how in the hell do you relate the 10 levels to the 10 dimensions lol. Like tell me one distinc thing about the "curled up" dimensions 5-10 and how they relate to anyhting on this list. the only similaritty is that there are 10 of them. It would be pretty cool if there was some fundemental connection between the structure of our universe and the structure of our consiousness but comparing two (flawed) models and then assuming some fundemental connection is non-scientific. First we would need to determine that this is a proper model of concousness for attacking the question. Also, the 6 curled up spatial dimenssions in string theory have never been measured or observed and string theory is only one group of theories that attempts to explain quantum gravuty. There are many others that don't involve extra dimensions
My jaw was on the floor for most of this video, and not just your animations lol, but rather that I felt myself following along from my own life over the last few years. Recalling times of so-called 'shedding my skin' after low points in my life, saying like "oh yep, that was my exact observation level in high school, College, etc.". I always figured there was something out there like this but never 'on the head' as this. My stoic and amazing dad told me several times growing up that I just thought differently than my peers, and whenever I found myself frustrated about the inevitable alienation that I began to foster around myself, I realized that everyone around me really only thought for themselves and over trivial stuff no less. Growing up around people much older than myself, I managed to live through a depression of prolonged loneliness because I truly felt that somehow what I thought was intrinsically "correct" or "mature". As you said, "...higher does not always mean better." and that could not be more true, perception or wisdom or whatever 100% come at a price; whether sanity, happiness, connections, or anything else. In any regard, thank you for reading this post and a thin slice of my life, i continue to live humbly on the path of life that we all will continue to walk. 'Learning' too much too quickly can be a difficult, and often painful, hurtle to jump, but i encourage everyone to never quit and know when you are just spinning your wheels in life. Be patient, always take a step back whenever you find yourself lost to your emotion. Sorry for the rant, I rarely if ever comment on videos but this felt different, this is a great video with much to process. I hope everyone has a great life ahead!!!
The, "I have a sinking cruiser" send me rolling! Xd Whenever I go through my "introspective spirals" in I'm left with an alien feeling, like, if the world I'm living is so gray and artificial... I now believe that those spirals are what happen when I negatively go in that 6-7-8-9-8-9 loop... As you say, it's like having a cruiser... *BUT A SINKING ONE* LMAO XD I automatically reset my level to my good old 4 - 5 zone after some time. Only going higher when I need or want to. Higher levels consume too much power :v xd
I relate pretty heavily, I spent alot of time alone growing up and as a result was in my head alot and still am sometimes to a problem extent maybe. I really appreciate this video because it actually opened my eyes to some of the pitfalls in thinking that can make you spiral abit. Ive been trying to work on myself and improve like anyone and I think this video will help me maybe not stumble so much in the process.
Throughout the past year, I've started journaling from time to time when i have thoughts that i deem somehow "significant". The more i grow and think, the more i start to feel like a silent observer. When you read the "complete" tab, it shocked me. I blushed. I couldn't believe that you had just described the mental state I have been burdened with for the past several months. I realized that I had been spending more time here than other tiers. My refraining from distraction with alcohol, social situations and gluttony, the more I began to stay in this mindset. Thanks for this video. It was really interesting to see how you visualized all of your tiers and explained the progression from one to another. I'd love to chat sometime. Cheers!
I had a lot of issues and was depressed so to escape I had to rip my consciousness apart and dissect where all my issues were coming from. The last example you gave with your drawings was surprisingly exactly the way I figured out how to work through my problems
Hey there, I'd highly recommend checking out Buddhism (This isn't some "you need jesus" crap, Buddhism is a method of living in this life). The 4 noble truths are literally about that, accepting that suffering is, that you can find the root cause of it, that you can stop it and then a "path" towards living without. Ripping apart your consciousness is exactly that. Also, HealthyGamer GG channel is an excellent start.
He says: "this isn't some you need Jesus crap" Then proceeds to offer a religion that you spend essentially forever trying to quit being reborn even though you have no soul or person. 🤦 All based on the teachings of a man who was just one of the many bodhisattva BUT *specifically* from the "Tuṣita" heaven, (buddhist cosmology is migrane inducing, cuz ya kno: "dukkha") who, depending on which opinion from which buddist "off-shoot"/sect (in other words no one knows, or EVER DID) decided to take the shape of a "white elephant to be reborn on Earth for the last time." 🤨 This white elephant, enlightened state buddha, from a specific heaven, for whatever reason, went into what I guess he chose to be his mother's womb (via her right side?) to be born, but was still a result of sex of his mom and dad(?). 🧐 All this to live a life in search of how to "detach" and "break the cycle" which he for some reason was the first one to "figure it out" giving us the "middle road" to achieve nirvana as a means to quit being born over and over again (be good or you might be born as a dung beetle) 😑 BUT.... No "Jesus crap" though... Obviously you can do whatever you want, you've been GIVEN the free will to do whatsoever you please. But don't try to reduce the real undeniable existence of Jesus Christ to "crap". Jesus Christ, who factually lived, that we have verifiable first hand witness accounts of, is backed by historical, archeological, and scientifical evidence...not to mention the literary miracle, the Bible, and it's never been exhausted details and explanations for human existence, creation, meaning, moral values, reason for suffering/evil, death, eternal life after... but yeah....Buddhism bro, no Jesus "crap", btw check out this dudes channel he's like super close to nirvana man." I say all that to say this: Believe it or not I got nothing but love for you and since I come from a Catholic upbringing which led me to hate church in the Bible only to eventually come to the realization that my preconceived notions and bias towards the Bible we're not fair and we're founded in my CONTINUED dislike (to say the least) of Roman Catholicism. once I put aside my preconceived motions biases opinions and simply just looked in to studying the historicity of the Bible alongside some personal spiritual self-reflection and prayer I came to what I believe to be the only logical conclusion and quite easy to come to with that, which is simply that the Bible is exactly what it claims to be. Jesus of Nazareth, Son of God (literally God in the flesh) came down here 2023 years ago (current year=how long since His bday, go backwards for anytime before [BC] lol, world changing event) to be murdered by His own creation, for you. God in the flesh, who made the entire universe, was sentenced to Capital punishment: death by Roman Crucifixion. Order was given by one "Pontius Pilot" who was the fifth governor of the Roman province of Judaea, serving under Emperor Tiberius. As a result, your Creator, suffered a horrific death, being tortured, spit on, mocked, beard ripped out, and the One who made the entire planet, hung bloody, entirely naked, disfigured, entrails showing; this He suffered while having the power to come down off the cross and wipe out all humanity at any point if He wanted to but no, instead we read in Luke 23:34 'Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do...' God in the flesh died for you. Because if you're honest with yourself you know that you are what the Bible would call a sinner. Because besides Jesus who lived a perfect sinless life (only way to be a perfect sacrifice on our behalf is to be perfect) so is EVERYONE ELSE who ever lived. And a perfect God cannot allow sin into a perfect place such as heaven because if He did, man would ruin all of outer space/heaven just like we are doing to Earth. And the judgement for sin, anything less than perfection, is death and eternity seperated from God in hell. But hell wasn't even made for you, Matthew 25:41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire PREPARED for the DEVIL and his ANGELS." And He died for all of His creation because He loves us: John 3:16-17 KJV [16] For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. [17] For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved." So he took your place on the cross, died for your sins, took your sins down to hell when He went there for you and dropped them off, rose from the dead on the 3rd day according to the scriptures, and ascended back up to His rightful place in Heaven. All that just in the HOPES (because He isn't a slave owner He gave you free will) that you will accept His FREE GIFT (you don't earn it) so that you can be forgiven, clean by blood of the "Lamb". These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us: 1 John 5:13-14 KJV Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. Romans 10: 9-10 ⁹ that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. ¹⁰ For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." Romans 10:13 ¹³For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Get saved brothers/sisters, God doesn't want you trying to worry about breaking The Reincarnation cycle trying to achieve Nirvana or get whatever prize whatever religion is offering you by your own works. No he wants you to know that you are going to heaven by simply trusting in Jesus Christ dying for your sins. He wants you to have peace, hope, purpose, meaning, a literal one on one personal relationship with you; and to spend eternity in Heaven with you there. We aren't guaranteed tomorrow, but we are guaranteed to die; don't put it off just simply trust Jesus Christ (cuz it's not crap, only reLIEgion is) and I hope to see yall topside after this short life on earth. Love. Life is Short Death is Sure Sin the Curse Christ the Cure
When you realize that thoughts are not actually coming from your inner self but you are actually the observer of the thoughts then we can truly begin to ascend our levels of thought. Great video man!
The truth is that there IS no "observer". Once you realise that, you'll truly be enlightened. Look up Sam Harris's explanation of free will and meditation.
I love how chaotic and confusing this is and somehow it still manages to make everything understandable XD I think the doodles look pretty cute. The important part is finding your way to explain the what you want!!
@@baldworkswhich works are you talking about? I have read some works on philosophy myself, and its my understanding that many of these philosophers would concede that their way of thinking might not be right or wrong, it just is the way it is, and the philosophy is often a tool for navigating this world and our own life
@@baldworks I never said it didn’t make sense, the way he presents the video is a bit chaotic but in a good way I loved all of it! The way I framed it must’ve been misleading for you :)
This is an uncanny scientific description and distillation of zen practices and the results they can achieve. This stuff is usually communicated via metaphor, but you do an amazing job of putting it into concrete terms.
I don't think "metaphor" versus "concrete terms" make sense here. I think "metaphor with Western symbols" versus "metaphor with Eastern symbols" do. I did this once, translating concepts from ancient Chinese medicine (if you can call it that way) to our words, they were still metaphors, but now they made sense to us.
For example, Ying and Yang were analogous to the Freudian internal mother and father in that specific context. Internal father or mother is not something concrete, it is still a metaphor, but it uses references that make sense in our frame of reference.
This is why ignorance at times is bliss and being able to turn it off is hard for me and often when i have too much free time i indulge in thinking and over analyzing actions. it gets very exhausting
its mentally draining, but you need to also dive into why its so exhausting and understand that part of it too in order to figure out solutions to slow down and give your mind a rest when needed. By knowing how to do it, when to do it, its like a car with or without a fuel gauge, it makes all the difference in the world to have one. Can't always be at full throttle all the time, need to know an efficient speed to max out this mental mileage... life gets better when you find how your own mind works.
Honestly I’ve been in the red pill space for around 10 years now. You’re like the only channel that hasn’t made it worse nor dilute it with bad material. Instead you make simple explanations and diagrams to help get people to understand! Thank you so much
All the red pill content I've seen focuses on "how to defend your interests as a man." I dislike the partiality of that, and I want to make people into overflowing fountains of giving who make shrewd choices about who to give to, rather than fearing who not to give to. It's an all-around better orientation.
really don't understand the appeal of red pilled content, it implies there is a good way to do things and most of the time content itself is rather toxic...
@@_vapor I agree. See it started with literally just taking the pill that women weren’t these angelic creatures that you get by being nice, sweet, and showering them with love. Due to all romance movies having the nerd get the girl at the end etc. redpill taught that it’s the masculine attractive men who got the girl, that being rich is a priority as well and that women are capable of extremely bad behavior as well……I remember content before that and for my age group it was terrible. Created a bunch of “betas” “simps” “nice guys” etc that became Incels later on. So red pill isn’t needed now but in the past it definitely was
@hoe_math Hey man, I love your content! Why are you doing it? (I would love to see a video about it) I wanted to make a long comment here, about how I think you are not aware of how your videos could be interpreted.. especially in a short form it might have a different meaning that you would like to convey, however, I only have an assumption what you want with these videos! Also, who the fuck I am to talk.. just felt like I would like a comment like this if I were you.. :$ (English is not my first language, I hope grammatically I am saying what I mean :D )
Ive been around the world. I was in and out of college from 87 till 2012, five major changes, finally a masters in counseling. I work in community mental health. All that to say, this is PhD worthy presentation and better than most self help material available today. Thank you. I love the drawing and i am inspired. I have been writing daily since 2020 and have overcome my worry about my poor grammar. I did this process but still havent communicated why people should just do it as well as you did here.
Wow I loved this entire video. I try to spend a lot of time at level 7 or 8 thinking, I have considered it my “reactionary pause”. It’s the pause while you watch your instinctual response and then deciding what is the best action to take to stay within my character. When I act out of anger/fear, or feel like I am acting outside of what I choose to be my best character- I often feel as if I have let myself down.
im mostly varrying over level 8 and 9 and i gotta say, it is nice to see that someone understands or comprehends what is actually happening in our thinking i thank you greatly for this video
This makes a lot of sense and explains why I'm constantly wondering how other people are unable to see the "bigger picture". I thought about my thought process throughout the video and came to the conclusion, that I shift between everyone of those levels constantly, but mostly operating from level 7. Sometimes more primal urges come up and I find myself in the lower levels, until I realise my own stubbornness lmao
lol yeah is like you know you are going primal and suddenly decide to go up again. imo is good to be like that sometimes, if not, you won't be able to enjoy the small things. operating in high levels is draining, so those things are better applied when your activities involve other people and not only yourself.
My whole life I thought I was insane or thought too deeply and was always being judged for seeing things too out there. I understand now that I was never the problem, they were just not at my level of understanding, which is not a problem to me or at all, really, as I understand everyone has their own way of perceiving life and themselves as it is. I’m so glad I found this video, it’s pretty impressive and I feel so at ease now. Thank you so much for taking the time to accomplish this!
This is a really cool way to organize ways of thought, but I'm getting the vibe that it attracts people who have an intelligence superiority complex, giving them a way to 'rank' how smart they are and others are
I assume intelligent people would do anything to stay on the lower levels. Higher levels describe and lead to madness more than intelligence in my opinion.
I’m sure that’s just a general rule of ideology. There’s always someone ruining things. This is a just a hyper aware categorization of cognition beyond the self. If someone’s gonna turn that into bullying, that was always their plan lol
Absolutely the oposite in my case. I have almost no intuition and have to intellectualize everything to understand. I makes me feel like a fool trying to understand and categorize everything instead of just living. So material like this speak in the languaje i understand better, humbeled, not proud because of that
I hit level 9 for the first time this weekend. I didn’t know levels existed until this video popped up on my recommended. So thank you! I couldn’t stay in level 9 because it made it difficult to communicate to others. It is nice to know it’s a level I can reach as needed but sometimes ignorance really is bliss 😊
My gf and a friend have talked abt this and we like to actually analyze ppl. It starts with expression, then substance, then reasoning behind substance, and then mindset. Expression is what someone shows directly. Their clothes, how they say stuff, anything that just on a superficial level u can describe or categorize them as. Then comes substance. What r they actually saying. It’s like you can say “yes” in a excited way or a hesitant way and it would convey different meanings. Then comes substance behind reasoning. A great example is your brain drawing. Everything u just said about why a girl doesn’t like you (sorry) is reasoning behind substance. Then comes mindset. Which is way harder to explain, but it’s the true origin behind everything you do. It’s kind of like your 7th degree of conscious. Like you see how all of their experiences culminate and you describe exactly why ppl do things. You can never describe someone’s mindset in a single word or phrase, but rather it is the culmination of everything as a person. If you can understand mindset you can understand the entire person as a whole. Anyways what I’ve been wanting to say is that I think you’re 9th level is unfinished. The 8th level is the recognition of the culmination of everything, but then 9th level is not only being able to understand your own culmination of everything, but someone else’s and truely experiencing what they have gone through. See you just desciebed a pattern of conscious and the pattern keeps on going as you go higher and higher and the 9th level is no exception. What you just described is the ability to analyze someone as a whole. The second level is the ability to understand someone else’s expression and then so on and so on (sorry i forgot what each level, but I hope u get the idea). Anyways the 9th level is the ability to understand the person as a whole, but then there is a 10th thing that i feel like is there but I wouldn’t nessecarily call it a level of conscious just more like a realization. You realize that all the information u perceive no matter how object, is finite. You can never truely define everyhting. There is no absolute in anything other than yourself. I believe this is where the cycle comes to a circle. You then come back to the level 1 of consious and build. Keep in mind it is not a cycle but more like the end of a circle. After realizing everything you possibly can, you just go from there. I know what I’ve just described might not seem real to some people and even to others as superficial. But truly know what i’m talking about you need to experience it.
I don't usually respond to comments but I found this interesting. I would agree with your 'level 10' sort of idea, not as a state of consciousness but a rule of life. But i wouldn't agree with your level 9 in the context of the video. The first reason being, as you said all information is finite which means therefore it can be lost or withheld by individuals. Which would mean for the reality of your level 9 to exist ("but someone else’s and truly experiencing what they have gone through") be impossible. This would kind of have to make me delve into 2 sub reasons as to why but i think this stems from misinterpretation of the video. I don't think hoe math's level 9 was to experience and understand the culmination of *someone else's* experience and existence but instead was the ability to like he said, "knowing where to watch those things"- in context to level 8. Level 8 being the ability to understand the culmination of YOUR experience in real time, to understand the understanding and observe the observing of the culmination. What I drew from the video, the idea of level 9 is the level of thought required to understand which area's to focus on, once again "the *responsibility* for *knowing*-( which in context is the parent to level 8 as a value), *where*-(in reference to being able to understand a higher level of where observing observation is required and necessary, and to understand its role and value in your own observation) to watch those things" that was my interpretation, I look forward to a response. Do correct any of my mistakes from your argument.
@@2terra259 after reading this over i think u may beright, it is more of "self awareness" that hoe math's level 9 is pointing out. But to be fair, @user-lu7rc5br5e said that they think lvl 9 is unfinished - basically it is missing empathy ("but someone else’s and truly experiencing what they have gone through").
I feel like I actually recently reached the level where I'm observing my habits and sense of identity changing over time and observing how I observe and even the daily flow through the levels of consciousness. That bit at the end really resonated where you get to thinking about thinking so hard and long that you basically end up with "you gotta start somewhere so this thing might as well be good enough for now"
Archetypes stop working about level 4, they work only till certain level, above that you create your own type, without any ancient meanings and this is why psychology is innacurate and rather theoretical, non-masculine.
@@JohnDoe-iu5xi I am character in one but I am living and not being lived by others anymore. It is complexed subject which was solved in ancient times but due to collapse of peace 4 times within last 2000 years we are forced again to rethink how to live. Pax Romana laster till Roman Empire collapse, insufficient silver in market and 4 generations of christianity killed the empire, made women a neck of men (head) and started a revoke of Goddess Kali religion among women. Pax Mongolica lasted long and prosperous, it was the safest time to live long and prevention was set by law - some of those laws are still in islamic countries but evolved or were forced with time to be "western" (example Libya). Pax Britannica brought end to official slavery and introduced new ways of efficient working in factories. Pax Americana did split world in two, pushed technology forward, peoples minds were forced to increase tacting above 50Hz - life started to "escape", became fast paced and unnatural for women. All of aspects from each peace lands today and meet together in society in form of red pill versus feminism. We are in 4th generation of rotting with money without value and Gen Z swiping tablets - next Pax will be the biggest and hopefully it will be more like Mongolica or Brittanica as personally I would like slow food, slow life, slow pace and experience it .
Maaaaate you got it down. I live in 8 as baseline, drop down a few levels depending on situation and other variables in current life. Your stuff on higher level thinking reminds me of the double slit experiment, where the act of observation changes the things action. You are tackling the “hard problem of consciousness” wonderfully my friend. I would love to collaborate, keep it up!
My experience with immigration to a country with better education at a young age really accelerated me into level 5 without fully developing understanding/comfort in level 2-4. I think that this forced me to start reasoning how different groups do things without understanding what I want, what I am, what I believe in. I'm not sure how else it has messed me up but I feel messed up. I feel like a very developed onion with a bunch of layers, but at the core I am empty. Being able to word this out is really helpful. Thank you for your video.
Very developed Onion is an excellent description! I've also gone through a similar up bringing and had to completely unravel the onion to properly understand and observe myself. I still haven't completely unravelled everything, as a very developed onion it takes a while to go through those layers, but as you untangle your own layers you gain a new level of Consciousness.
I think I understand what you mean , I also needed to have that kind of awareness without having the chance to think about myself in anyway , as I grew up in a neglectful household. So not so long-ago I experienced a time where I revisited myself and my urges , for that to happen I needed a safe space which for me was my mind. Anyway my point is , I have also felt empty before and I always felt like i was messed up in a way, but it's not constant it goes away .
Borderline personality disorder... depending on the severity of your emotions 😂 That's the diagnosis I give myself. I even realize Im in the moment become a slightly tailored version to them, that slowly becomes more like them, that makes it hard for people to not hangout with me, or to engage with sex easy, again I realized my internal processes are so dissociative and almost out of control, it's frightening, especially splitting because I'm kinda dangerous with both Internalizing and Externalizing 😂
"Flowers for Algernon" by Daniel Keyes, I think it's a great book that takes you through each of these levels from a first-person perspective. An impaired man takes a pill for a study and it enhances his intelligence. You're able to watch his thoughts build up, fluctuate, and decline. Made my cry. A must-read in life!!
Oh my god, I read this book about a month ago and I absolutely adore it! It’s so well written. The juxtaposition between emotional and intellectual development is incredible to see and how Charlie evolves throughout the book and grapples with his problems is fascinating to read
I READ THIS A FEW YEARS AGO BACK IN 7TH GRADE. Damn never thought I would hear about it again. Definitely can apply some of these concepts to that book
Absolutely AMAZING book! One aspect to it I also love is how you see the progression of his intelligence in how his grammar and sentence structure changes. You’ve inspired me so excuse me while I go read it for the probably 7th time 😂
The first time I started experiencing level 8, I was filled with this extreme sense of purposelessness and I didn't even want to exist anymore. The reason was my mind still trying to save itself by seeking intent and purpose in being pure awareness (whose very nature is simply witnessing). This created a clash between my mind and my awareness which gave me a hard kick on my chest and I was falling in a limbo. My whole life exploded and I was numb for a while. Now I have realized that it is the nature of mind to have intent and it is the nature of awareness to not have intent. I live in my body and mind, so sure I will feel intent, feelings, ego, etc. But is it really that significant? Not at all because that's just the nature of these entities. Its like do we feel overwhelmed or fascinated by the fact that wood is hard? No, its just the nature of wood to be hard, just like that anything related to my awareness OR my mind is as significant as wood being hard (This sounds very unbelievable from the perspective of other levels but its liberating). So what should I do? NOTHING! What can I do? ANYTHING! Do I want to do anything? Yes, the mind always wants to do anything. Will it matter in the grand picture? There is no grand picture. I guess I'll just eat ice cream then. And today whenever I eat ice cream Its like a dream because whatever I do in this dream will vanish the moment I cease to exist. Life is but a dream.
This video is awesome. It made me think back specifically to all the times people criticized me for explaining my thoughts on different matters (while going through these levels without realizing). The most common response I got was “not everything is that deep/not everything has meaning”. I think some people do not like to venture into the upper levels of thinking because it scares them
i think i just reached level 4. spent 22 years of my life so deep into my own thoughts that i never really fully understood that other people also go through things. lost friends because i wasn’t emotionally supportive enough. now i have a boyfriend and this year i learned that it really isn’t everything about me. i’m able to understand him and feel what he feels
@@joeyoung7338 I do meditate though I started a month ago. Yeah, I should try to understand myself objectively. It is crazy how I never do that. I will be starting a blog as it turns out writing down stuff actually helps reveal my psyche. Thanks random stranger on the internet
in the same boat. im 21 but this past year being in a relationship and deeply understanding another person has helped me so much in understanding myself
Man, you are really in your creative flow right now. Looking forward to the long version. I actually find the low budget production refreshing, differentiates you from all the people teaching stuff online.
As a dude with high functioning autism this is very interesting. I end up using mostly levels 7, 8, and occasionally 9 throughout almost every day of my life while accidentally neglecting the lower levels (often forget why I do things, forget to put myself into one specific persons shoes rather than think of an overall perspective, ect) and I only now have a way to understand why that is. Thank you for explaining this in such detail and allowing me to realize I should begin to use those lower levels a little more.
i was just thinking that exact same thing! i'm also autistic and when he got to level 8 i thought wait, doesn't everybody think like this the majority of the time? and then i realized i don't use the lower levels almost at all and that's probably why my brain feels so busy all the time lmao
4:21 This is the same issue with 'therapy' and I bumped up against this problem just a few weeks ago. See, i have an issue with wiping off counters. There's just been this lifelong block with this one thing. I'll do dishes, scrub out the fridge and oven, wipe off the cabinet fronts, sweep the floor... then walk out of the room without wiping the counters off. I actually clean MORE in an effort to avoid wiping off the stupid counters. I hate myself for this problem. Why do I do it? Goes back to my childhood. Both training and resentments. I fully understand the why. I know where the complex evolved from and how it affected me. Last week I was talking to my husband and the topic was relevant so I said all that and we finished the conversation and it was done. But later it bugged me. I kept thinking, so now what? I know this is an issue. I know why I have the issue. I understand all the ins and outs and history and psychology of the issue. But I'm a freaking grandmother for the love of gawd. What the hell am I going to DO about it? There comes a point where the navel-gazing has to end. You've explored every crevasse here's no more lint to be found in the little hole. You just have to choose to grow up and actually change the behavior. So I shifted my feelings of resentment from my parent and from my childhood imprinting and made myself resent ME. I now resent that part of me that allowed this BS to carry on for so damn long. And my counters have never been so clean. See, I can't change the parent. I can't change the past. But I can change what I don't like about myself. I am the one factor in the universe that I have control over, so when I can shift my mindset to "I AM THE PROBLEM" now I have the power to fix it. It's always a sweet rush when that shift happens because I know I'm finally able to move forward. Us navel-gazers have to realize that insight isn't helpful unless we apply it. My husband is the least navel-gazing person on planet earth, but when he finds some aspect of himself, he just changes it. There is no navel-gazing. "I don't like that I've been drinking as much as I have. I will no longer drink." "I'm suffering because I go to bed too late. From now on, I have a bed time." And then he *actually does the thing... FOREVER.* He truly is a god among men and I respect him so much. The fact is, why doesn't matter. The only way to improve our lives to to practice radical, personal responsibility and just do the thing. It's a hell of a lot faster and more effective than the brain stuff. But I will admit, it's much less fun.
That's why the best self-help advice is to "just do it." If you experience a negative feeling, then DO something about it, and see if you feel better. That's it. I don't think I've ever benefitted from level 6 - level 7 consciousness. It's like trying to solve for 2 + 2 with a quantum computer. It just overcomplicates things and it becomes mental gymnastics so I can procrastinate taking action.
That was really a great read. You write well and entertainingly. That's pretty rare. It's nearly non-existent in the younger generations. I've been known to do a bit of navel-gazing, myself... But I do try to act on the things I learn from my excessive pondering of nonsense. (I find that writing things down when I think of something new helps make it useful.)
Best comment I've read in a long long time. Once the thinking is done, the only solution is to move forward. Would be nice if there was a way to streamline the process and act faster, but maybe it comes with practice.
I'm very pleasantly surprised by this. I think if you continue focusing on this level of quality in what you do, you will have a very bright future and great deal to give to other people.
I’ve noticed that going through therapy has increased my awareness substantially. Because I struggle with CPTSD, it’s crucial for me to be at higher levels of thinking because without it, it would be incredibly challenging to remain functional without my triggers taking over my life. I use level 8 and 9 to rewire my behavioural patterns and patterns of thinking. I also find that being dissociated feels a lot like how you explained level 9, except I’m not aware of level 1. I think that things like meditation, therapy, and some esoteric ideologies encourage the use of higher levels of thinking and perception because it overall can give you a lot more control over who you are and why you act the way you do. Of course, there is no such thing as full control, but becoming aware of your behaviours and feelings and where they come from can be incredibly liberating. At least, that’s how it’s felt for me
OMG I was wondering if I'd find a comment like this! Especially with CPTSD I 100% agree! The whole time watching the video I was like... oh this is like everything I've learned in therapy 😯 It's kind of nice to be able to be in that 7th/8th stage looking back at myself and being aware in the moment about how I'm reacting to things, especially when they're things that would normally trigger me in the past. Don't know if I would ever want to be in that 9th level all the time - I find comfort in that 7/8 range of daily functioning, because even that can be a lot to deal with daily. Also, interesting point about the dissociation. I've experienced derealization and would describe that as being at level 9, but all at the same time being suspended/at that point wondering if all the levels are even real or not 🤔 Would level 10 be a complete separation/disassociation from all the levels? Are there infinite levels??? lol we need more answers
@@MomfirsttodayI feel this. when you reach a certain level of awareness within oneself, it’s almost as if you can see through others and assess the levels they are at and the levels they fluctuate between. But they are unable to do the same for you because of the phrase “people can only meet you as deeply as they’ve met themselves”. It can feel isolating to be so aware of the inner mechanisms of your own mind and thus be aware of the inner mechanisms of the minds of others before they are able to even pick up on it. It can also come off as if you are pompous or self righteous in a way when you do try to connect with others
@@Karma_return777I’ve felt this way as well. It’s so easy to see through everyone else once you get comfortable at higher levels of thinking. My friends often ask me what I think about them and it’s almost like I’m doing a magic trick for them because I would be able to see things they’ve never seen about themselves. It’s weird and isolating. But I’ve always kind of felt that way due to my neurodivergence lol
Glad to find out how simple yet complex the day to day mind can be! Although I will say I hope many more come across this video! It’s a great way to open the mind to just how much more you can see the world, and yourself. Through all of this self understanding it can truly help not only ourselves, but the world we live in.
This video made me realize among many other things why meditation is so important (even though some part of yourself doesnt want to do it). Meditating is literally seeing your thoughts as an observer, not your own, and let them be; this can be compounded multiple times (into multiple levels as you explain). So meditating is really a power tool to train looking at things from more far away as you get better at it. Obviously you would need to accompany this with just living your life to collect experiences, so then you can meditate about them and then realize this birds-eye view. I'm writing this as I reason it but this video of you explaining going up through the levels really screams the word meditation to me. It made me realise that I absolutely need to preactice it more, thank you
Willful meditation is key. Your subconscious feedback is strongest when you are cold, hungry or distracted. If you can still your mind while your body is over-reacting, you begin to develop mental fortitude and mind-body synchronicity.
I resent comparing mediation to something like a tool. A tool performs a function to effect an outcome. Usually. Meditation can take u far beyond outcomes 💥✌️🥰🍂🌞
This is one of the most unique channels I’ve seen describing the processes of the human mind when it comes to relationship. I think that the drawings make it fun and easier to process the information. This channel will get to 1 million subscribers!
your videos are so mentally stimulating. you explain complex subjects that are also inherently easy to grasp, and you explain them with really simple words forming remarkably difficult phrases to follow because of the repetition of those simple words such as « this/that », « her/him » etc. i love it so much.
WOW this video is amazing. Believe it or not, I’m living daily as a level 8 and I feel so much understanding for so many different levels of my life from watching it
It's a very funny feeling to listen to a man you've never met perfectly explain your thinking patterns to you in a way that is way more organised than you ever thought they could be. It really feels like a stranger just walked up to me and already had me figured out
That’s crazy. Level 9 is really trippy and I don’t think it could be sustained for “living” and even in the example you gave at the end of your own thoughts of your drawings (which are amazing, thank you), it seemed that the awareness was processed in gaps of time and not a state of prolonged period of time. THANK YOU for explaining this, I was literally trying to find this. Please make more and I’ll practice to get into higher levels.
Level 9 is actually really useful for peaceful interpersonal activity. The transparency that it creates of "gaps" in the emergence of conscious apprehension of reality helps you sort of... place something in front of people that makes them react, like "what the hell did you just say? why have I never thought of it that way?" and I BELIEVE (don't quote me) that this is why they call it the "ironist." Because you are "ironically" giving people the opposite of what they need to force them to solve their own problem from the inside and make them fill in that gap.
I found level 10. It’s when you’ve spent so much time in levels 7-9 that you straight up make a conscious decision to revert back to levels 1 & 2 because you realize there’s no point in continuing to abstract things further. You realize that you are your own autonomous system and you decide to just sit back, let it go, and let your consciousness do it’s own natural thing without questioning it’s/your motives constantly.
@@BlazeIsaf I was just thinking a similar thing when I scrolled and read this. I realize my mind is often so caught up how/ why/what/ and the implications of it i often struggle to live in the moment. I realize there was a sort of clarity of simplicity when I was young, that I was hyper aware of now. I currently have to struggle to revert by brain back to this state.
This is the cycle of what people call "God." It really amazes me that people don't ponder religion further than heaven / god / unity. It's an eternal suffering of being isolated, so you must break yourself apart so that you can distract your own self to connect with other parts of yourself, other people, so that you can all hope to get back to unity and back to oneness, so that you can.... DO WHAT?!? DO IT all over again? That's what some religions say. Reincarnation. Ok great, then what, repeat that infinitum? That's the "best" answer the "best" religions have. An endless cycle, to become present, to transcend being into oneness again. and again. forever. Well to me, that's the definition of insanity, and I know that it's actually not the real definition, but to do the same thing over and over and NOT EXPECT a different result is INSANE. This is the part of the analyzing that doesn't make sense to me. If this is the reason for being, then that's it? Then I'm checking out. If it's not, then the answer cannot be unity and oneness, it actually has to be the opposite. It has to be entropy and chaos, why? Because that creates more things. More things lead to more awareness. Leads to more actions, thoughts, multiverses of being. So if we actually found out that uniting was the wrong thing to aim for... we've been doing it wrong this whole time. Maybe, we're actually supposed to go into chaos and entropy. Embrace the broken, for it allows us so much more to analyze. Rather than being in the moment and being united with nothing actually going on.... Just some thoughts. Sorry it was on your random funny comment, Good shit for you tho!
this is like my fourth time watching this video because it’s so interesting, well put together, and just to fully capture everything being said… with that when is the advanced version coming? please
I grew up during the 60s and 70s. Level 6 was going crazy then. Your evaluation is correct, just because a person has embarked on the journey of higher level thinking, doesn't mean it's better. Those in level 6 then, made the mistake of the cliché, throwing out the baby with the bathwater. They didn't take the time to evaluate why things were, and properly assess what would happen if it was changed, replaced, or just thrown out. They also forgot that ideas have consequences.
This sounds so relatable. I didn’t grow up back then, believe it or not I’m actually a zoomer. I’ve always had my questions about my generation writing of morals they deemed to be outdated. As if they refuse to look at what these morals were put into place for to protect. I understand that times are changing, but I always felt like time is not the only thing in the equation and that human tendency/nature and it’s consequences also have to be taken into account.
@@uzi11111Don’t you understand why the theory failed in the 70s ? There is no level 7, it’s speculative. And somehow everyone in the comments conceives his present self at level 6. Don’t you see the problem ?
@@PUREBLACKWORLDTENDENCY I'd say, go crazy - not literally, but try something unconventional. Attempt to construct a world you'd never expect or engage in something enjoyable just once where you had left all matters of consequences completely dealt with. Once you reach a point where you can observe virtually everything at least once, you can begin to shape reality itself. I believe that there's an infinite amount to acknowledge, but the categories are not. Even if you opt to notice the unity in everything or take a more practical approach, you'll easily adapt to a harmonious lifestyle. The reason the 6th level is so troublesome is because it ignores most aspects of one's perceptions. Every level of thought can be reformed into the values of any of the other ones, except the 6th. It is a bit stuck in the physical aspect of itself. (I was going to post this to the OP, but something happened, I guess. My apologies good sir.)
I'm absolutely Flabbergasted. Just yesterday I was thinking about exactly this topic. I was linking numbers like these "levels"to lifestyles and personalities. I didn't say anything and never even thought this was a thing. Just thought about it. Here I am totally getting it. Thank you for sharing ❤😅
It's crazy to me to hear it articulated this way thank you, I've been trying to explain this exact concept using what I called epiphanies of consciousness instead of levels for years. When i was about five or six I had the realisation whist on a family road trip that every house we went by has a family who live thier lives like we did and from then on I turned into more of an observer of life but I digress. Interesting and concise thanks for your work
your point about people who can get to an 8 don't stay there long. Literally gave me chills. I can think back to three very precise moments in the past year where I felt myself wiring my left and right brain together. Thank you so much for this video gave me something else to think about 🥰
Thinking at level 8 only happens to me when very tired and somewhat stressed in a quite environment. And it's exhausting. You can't really exercise this high level thinking on your feet, takes to long to deeply analyse your thoughts just to answer the question "how are you". I tend to delegate some of the process as part of a conversation or with a paper if I need to deeply analyse something.
@@hoe_math by stabalise you mean that one would have control of when one accesses said level right? Because not being able to shut off the higher levels isn't good since it can get you stuck in ever increasing layers of abstraction
I live at a solid 7&8. I can’t even begin to explain the depth of my baseline anxiety. I am envious of people who think less deeply about things. My brain is always working over time, picking life apart to what feels like the atoms, trying to understand my human experience. Grappling with reality. To just go through life, satisfying simple needs, not thinking about these things seems fabulous.
LMAO 🤣🤣🤣 as someone who also is at a solid 7&8, I can vouch; it's not the fact that there is "too much" time on OP's hands, it's the fact that me and OP have learned what reality is and we've been trying to pick apart everyone and everything cause we don't understand how stooopid people can be and how they can't see past themselves 😂😅🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 We could be in college or have full time jobs and kids at home, we would still be doing this 😂😂😂😂😅🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is going in my top 10 UA-cam videos - because of the scribbles. 26 minutes felt like 5 with a whole lifetime worth of processing frameworks. Thanks hoe_math for your contribution to humanity ❤
You achieve lvl 9 when you realize that you are not the thoughts in your head, you're the listener. Level 7 is your innate emotional response to the moment that you're experiencing, level 8 is your logical reasoning behind that emotional response (taking into account your past history and how different perceptions of said moment could create different responses) . The thing about level 8 is that you can still mentally trap yourself into a downward spiral of negative and chaotic perceptions of reality; level 9 is the voice of intuition and care, the soul or the divine body - your connection to the fundamental building blocks of reality - when you tap into level 9 you become a sort of radio for the "God consciousness" - this is where a complete sense of peace and comfortability can be found in your own mind - a non-judgemental, all-loving, joyful, and wise version of yourself.
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@hoe_math Your "scribbles" are perfect. You should make a poster of the "level-up" sheet. I would buy it immediately!
Love the graphics. Handwriting also very interesting, almost like a font of regular guy script.
Maybe you know them already but in manufacturing we use the 5 Why's to get at root cause. It's a lot like you description of thinking things through at the end of the video.
I don't think that people 10,000 years ago were less intelligent than people today. I hope that you were using tribes/Romans/Medieval describing the lower levels as analogy only; Aristotle et al.
I think this explaisn why i cant be in the moment as often as others + why my brain overheats more often than it should. Thank you for the visual break down.
I'm almost 30. I've been at a new job for about a month now. Yesterday, for casual Friday, I wore a normal tshirt. My boss called me over and politely talked to me, saying I need to wear collared shirts. Keep the casual professional. He was very nice about it. And I felt anxiety for 30 mins because I had done something wrong. I grew up with unforgiving parents and deal with this kind of stuff internally, but I'm getting better at it recently. Anyways. I wanted to just go home and change so I didn't feel bad anymore. I thought about how my boss might have been stressed because maybe HIS boss mentioned it to me and he felt like HE did something wrong. And I caused all of that stress. I didn't like that. But. I realized I was being ridiculous. I told myself it's just a shirt and I'll fix it next time. And I was able to do that because I have become able to see how I emotionally respond to things and why I respond that way. I've been changing a lot of things recently since moving past some unhealthy attachments and I've been able to do so because I can see how and why I react the way I do. I think about why I do it and if what I'm so worried about is actually something to worry about. Most of the time it isn't. I feel like this self awareness puts me most of the time at a 8.
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Thanks for the vid, i finally reached lv 2. I used to eat bananas, but now i know that others eat bananas too, i'm gonna punch them.
I'm reminded of the birds in Finding Nemo: "mine!"
@@eliel1341 u lv3 if u punch them
Oh no, that's when you eat those who are eating your bananas.
think bout the reprecussion it will hae punchin em tho. u may not get other bananas
My banana! You go in volcano!
This has made me realize that I no longer feel like I’m living my life, but I’m just thinking about living my life.
Real
You need to unthink yourself lol
trying so hard to correct this same issue in myself lol i'm just thinking about everything and myself doesnt exist
Try meditation.
I love you
The real final level is sitting here doing the drawings and then organising all of the thoughts and articulating it to be understood by the audience you have. Bravo :)
Level 10 thinking.
level 11, why bother thinking when there are ☝ smart people ☝ to figure it all out
level oo, its all a cycle, you'll be here again drawing these and there's nothing you can do, even if you're the best or you did as much as you could.
The completed final level looks like this ua-cam.com/video/xyYhZTy_Abo/v-deo.html
And the way there, explained in the same yet slightly different way ua-cam.com/video/6i8bnb4dvvg/v-deo.html
lvl 12, understanding nothing matters and just being selfish
I'm not joking or being hyperbolic, this is the first video I've EVER watched in 15+ years of chronically being on UA-cam that a video has made me felt SEEN. truly, in every sense of the word, down to my bare essence, SEEN. I know it's understandably likely that you won't read this, but I can't thank you enough for creating this video.
ok lvl 3 whatever
@@Karaon that wasn't very level 6 of you
I hear that. I come watch this video every so often for the same reason. I have an observation to put forth: if u are a guy dating at level 7, u basically can’t talk about your beliefs with your girl cause there’s a .01% chance she’s on that level.
Isolation: They feel disconnected because so few people share their worldview or can even grasp it.
• Frustration: Engaging with lower-level thinkers often feels limiting, even alienating, as others may reject or misunderstand their ideas.
• Compatibility Issues: Whether in friendships, relationships, or professional environments, they struggle to find people who truly "get" them.
These frustrations create deep emotional and intellectual pain, leaving them searching for solutions, validation, and a sense of belonging.
This does create significant friction, especially when you enjoy discussing deep, complex concepts that others may not understand- or worse, may feel threatened by.
@@micahblu9168 and then gradually what can happen (and seems worse the younger you are) is you begin to lower your expectations of the world and yourself to such a degree that all things are mediocre and you settle into a mediocre role for the duration of a mediocre life or become Jim Carrey in Yes Man and maybe even get the girl.
For example, I am now satisfied with submitting run-on sentences.
Overthinking can lead to inaction, which is why people who think less often get more done.
100%
i’m an example myself
@@sonal7987 We are.
@@jaimetheone9150 this became more clear when i started working.
we must get out of this rut before it’s too late 🥲
Sure, those who don't overanalyze might do more things, but are those things they are doing helpful, harmful, meaningful, or mindful? Are those things contributing towards a greater goal? Additionally, even if one can perceive the higher levels of thinking, they are not unable to see/use the lower levels of thinking when they are the best fit for the situation. There is a need and a function for higher level thinking. And it seems like at level 9 thinking, one would be able to know exactly where to target the issue and from what perspective in order to achieve their goals. That's exactly the part I struggle with. I can see the whole tangled web, but where do you start to begin untangling things? If you start carelessly, the web could completely fall apart and cause more problems because it is a delicately interwoven system of systems.
Yes, I can attest that as a person who has crippling OCD, just an inbalance of having too much glutamate on some regions of the brain can make you not be able to make a lot of things while at same time getting why everyone is the way they are and you just wish you could live at the moment like you were as a child, it is a progress of losing your ability of living at the moment while observing that and being less able to rationalize what to do about that because what would actually work is to not rationalize at all, that can't be solved with rationalizing more, only with living at the moment. But then again, you are stuck already, how can you just not rationalize once you been there...
I had to claw my way up in the dark trying to figure this all out. So so happy to see it being put so succinctly in an easy-to-understand manner. Thank God you didn't let the fear of doodles stop you, please don't let anything else stop you either. I never comment but this needs to blow up so more people can see it.
Trust me this information is presented to you for the entirety of your life you just choose to ignore it. Lets not act like we wake up and spend 8 hours a day working on our consciousness and awareness. We all work for uncle sam. What do you think is gonna happen if more people see this video?
People see college and dont go dude... The knowledge been there, but ignorance is more fun
My doodles suck... MS whiteboard and smart friends to the rescue!
@@PerryCaliTrue words. I learned this kind of stuff just reading fiction as a kid.
@@PerryCali I feel like theres a difference between knowing and understanding. I knew about this for a long time but didn't "understand" and actually resonate with it until recently, as I can tell that my entire perspective and attitude has changed.
@PerryCali that's true. But it's not the only issue. Some people don't even know this kind of information even exists... not cauz of ignorance but accessibility, for others its just incocievable because they have lived a certain way too long. Making these things mandatory human knowledge in the education system is a good start for global inlightenment and betterment.
thinking about thinking is a little like being your own therapist in your head. just, "and why does that make you feel that way?" "well," and then you continue on that.
@@themadsuns that’s what I was thinking too.
I try to explain this to people that suggest therapy to me, I don't need guidance to open that part of my brain, which is their main purpose. Contrary, often times the reason I'm feeling less than enthused is because of the deep level at which I can understand things, and see how fucked the world really is lol.
@@codyabbott4791 Brother, I understand you. My whole life I’ve felt a cloud over my head, a gloomy depressed feeling because of the high level of existential intelligence i’ve gained at an early age and the heavy anxiety it caused to me as a child knowing how screwed we are going to be in the next 20-40 years, at this point in time as a species, all because the current population’s norm is to refuse to think at a higher level, the culture is book=geek, zero awareness of how many prominent historical figures were warriors and revolutionaries that were intelligent humans. But thats a huge rabbit hole i probably shouldn’t ramble on about to you.
@@StealthyMaizero i have an entirely different perspective. im observing a strange uptick in consciousness in normal people. the sheep continue to be lost, but the conscious-class is growing. leaders are being developed and im optimistic about the future of this world, specifically for oppurtunity for those who wouldnt ever see opportunity if they were born 50 years ago.
@@codyabbott4791 Do you think that therapist don’t see the world at a deep level and therefore wouldn’t be able to provide any guidance for your situation? What level would people that make these sort of assumptions be at?
This video made me realize often when I get frustrated in conversation with people, what I’m talking about just goes way over their head. I think if I’m smart enough and say everything right, I can make them understand. But someone who lives their life at level 3-4 is simply not going to be able to participate effectively in a level 7-8 conversation.
PLEASE DO NOT CHANGE YOUR DRAWING STYLE. It gives this channel a lot of personality, it feels kinda great to see that such complex ideas can be representated with such simple drawings (even though I almost colapsed when I firstly saw the chart about thoughts levels).
I love these channel, you really explain things I thought no one would never talk about in social media, it's like a dream turn reality
I like the cartoons, but the camera work and focusing around the cartoons could be better.
@@diazigy I like it the way it it, but yeah, he still has room for improvement. Anyways, those kind of details are more about personal preferences so
Totally agree with him,
the content is way deeper to focus on the graphics,
since they only visually support you explaining.
Totally loved your personality. Subscribed!
As he says it's just development
Nah it's perfect. Feels comedic and down to earth, there's a charm to the child like aesthetic. Almost like "Casually Explained"
This channel is destined to blow up.
He 10xd his following in a month already lmao it’s happening in real time.
Incredible to see.
That's a 9.
He has a tikto
Seriously, this is going to do even better than his TikTok.
The problem with maintaining level 9 is that your boss tells you to stop staring off into space, we have to get this concrete poured tonight.
So relatable
That's both way to true if you actively think about these concepts and not really the case once you internalize the core consequences that apply to you personally.
I like mental shortcuts but they're flawed so idk i'm too tired to explain actually
Meanwhile, the girl you like getting poured by Chad
You’re not really number 9. You’re just pretending to be. Number 9 is equivalent to zen state/buddah. Somewhen in the state is chopping wood and getting water. The exact same way as level 1. They’re just aware they’re doing it
This is such a great explanation of why 2 kids in the same family are not really raised by the "same" parents or in the same way. When siblings say they were raised the same, I always think about this
i actually remember the exact moment i reached level 3 lol i had the most mindbending moment in my elementary school bathroom when i looked in the mirror and it suddenly hit me all at once that when others see me they only see my shell, they don’t see my interior experience or my character or anything like that. they just see what i see in the mirror and that’s it. i’ve never forgotten that moment. it was really sad for me, actually. i felt profoundly lonely and misunderstood in that moment. and i still feel like that to this day, actually.
I think we reveal a little of what goes on inside with our interaction with each other. How much depends on how vulnerable you're able to be around that person. It's like the difference when people know you but they don't know you like a loving parent might because they've had more exposure to that authentic self.
Becoming sentient is crazy. I remember the first time it occurred to me in like jk that other people had thoughts and experiences like my own and they should be considered real and respected. It hit me like a train. My whole behavior pattern changed forever.
They only see the outside and the strawman they conceive. However, you make them aware that you are a living soul by speaking from your heart consistently and living out your God given purpose.
And now your eyebrows, eyelashes, lips, skin tone and hair color are fake to try to appear better to others than you really are. Still some climbing to do.
The next level is realizing that those other people don't exist at all. This is comforting until you make the logical leap that you don't exist either. That is the final level, since then you realize there are no levels. Just a cloud of hydrogen that was left alone for way too long.
It's crazy for someone else to explain so neatly something you have been trying for your whole life to understand. I like that you stated that higher levels of thought doesn't exactly mean they are better, I've struggled with anxiety my whole life and I definitely get trapped in loops of overthinking and decision paralysis. I have learned in my adult years that sometimes its okay to chill at the lower levels and just be yourself. But I think if everyone had even just one breakthrough moment where they thought at higher levels, we would have a much better understanding of our world and how to live happily with one another.
decision paralysis =/= higher levels. same for overthinking. you can overthink from the same single perspective, and have decision paralysis from one frame of view, while neglecting other frames of view. you can also 'chill' at higher levels, especially if it's bringing you answers to questions that could not be answered at lower levels, and allowing you to be more productive than you would have been otherwise, and therefore content with your improvement. there are many examples of this. I think anxiety is more of a nervous system problem and can happen at any level, low or high.
Wouldn’t Greek philosophers be on some of the higher levels though
lvl 1:
> i want donut
lvl 2:
> me and other want donut
lvl 3:
> me and others want donut
lvl 4:
> me and others want donut but rules first
lvl 5:
> me and others want donut but rules second science first
lvl 6:
> me and others want donut but rules AND science AND religion AND tribe AND etc all together
lvl 7:
> me and others want donut but rules doesn't want donut. Remove rules
lvl 8:
> me and others want donut but rules OR science OR religion OR tribe OR etc
lvl 9:
> i dont know if I want the donut
Right and best is situational… that’s what you realize at second tier…and as you climb higher you still retain access to the lower levels.
In fact not having them as a solid foundation can make you dysfunctional even when you are at higher levels of awareness. Which is why it is important to understand the impact of trauma in undermine that foundation. The climb is important because you become more versatile and less reactive to other people. You see people less in terms of good and bad and more in terms of different degrees of being awake. The less awake they are the more people and things they bump into.
@@metagorgeThis is important, this is where you SELF diagnosis issues, to further research, to than bring to doctors a host of symptoms, to find a treatment plan, not for labels or money, or even health, but for every reason imaginable, positive and practical, again Occam's razor is super important here, especially when debating what's best to even tackle.
But stagnation is intolerable at a higher level... And realizing you have severe issues, can be quite crippling. Because you realize the dissociative mindfuck you are as a human being...
ADHD meds, figuring that out about myself, gave me everything you described... until, I split on a woman again in my life. Horrific experience for everyone involved, after YEARS.
Getting BPD/DBT treatment soon... wish everyone was this morally responsible or tries to be 😂😂
His way of explaining with his "doodles" is so unique yet so effective. Great video.
Like children he teaching is, hhmm. 👽
Sam O’nella academy might be something you really enjoy. He also does silly doodles while he teaches
@@jasonwilliams9803I do think Sam O'Nella tends to be a little too fast
Yes keep the doodles if you can
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Love this stuff! Thank you for creating. ❤
Man, you must be quite smart to be able to explain such a complex topic and make it make sense in a short amount of time, amazing video. I loved that you let us download your chart
High verbal intelligence, indeed.
I can’t seem to find the chart when following the link in the description. Could someone help?
@@ryugo7713 google search level cart and it comes up.
@@HeyWelcomeToMyWorld what are the types of verbal intelligence and do they contribute to the traditional “IQ” tests?
@@HeyWelcomeToMyWorld I dont think so man. This sounds like phony nonsense
Level 8 and 9 remind me of what mindfulness meditation people talk about! Fascinating to see how different sciences and cultures can overlap like that
I love mindfulness. We practice it every night in my dorm
Your dead on the money, meditation is definitely key. Meditation helps your mind expand but not just meditation alone, your mind has to be willing to expand and you cannot expand if you do not make room for more ideas to enter your mind unbound by biases. The more you can open your mind and be less judgmental the more room for expansion. Nuance is key for true growth, when you press in to learn more and understand more both light, dark and everything in between the universe unfolds everything in front of you. It's like staring into the abyss, the abyss stares back into you. Likewise the universe, don't stop, keep pushing. Leave not one stone left overturned and life as you know it will look like a matrix. More layers will peel back and just observe, lvl 9 is where it's at but only if you can handle it. You have to open your own mind to expand that far, it's a matter of one's own will to make a way. Will you tell yourself you know enough or will you open up to be once more surprised that this universe is in communion with you.
A lot of "esoteric" or "occult" stuff from early ages are legitimate things. A lot of Eastern practices like meditation have actual positive brain effects, and magick in Europe prior to Christianity, half of it was just proto-psychology rituals for self-development and discipline.
Meditation and mindfulness is definitely a level 6 practice, 100%. Level 7/8 is observing the results of, and influencing the direction of that mindfulnes, as well as accepting multiple lifestyles and cultures while also believing they exist better separate than they do together. Level 6 would put everyone together.
Yuri Bezmenov detailed how meditation/mindfulness was specifically capitalized on by the KGB as a cultural weapon against Americans in order to specifically create the problematic cultures that were directly brought up by hoe_math as a result of 6 thinking.
Level 7 thinking is the worldview supported by modern Russia now instead.
Sounds like what people talk about when they're describing "christ consciousness"
"I am not the main character, I am just the spotlight [...] If we want a better world and a better life, we have to learn where and how to shine that light."
That was a great way of expressing the 'point' of a lot of meditative practices and eastern mysticism dealing with level 9 stuff.
Yes. As a practitioner that gets triggered explaining stuff to “students”
I appreciate this very much.
Which completely obliterates the concept of thinking about thinking. Eastern misticism is all about being in the present moment and radical awareness, they knew thoughts were a poorly constructed theories of reality, and knowledge through learning and experience was much more valuable than any thought your head can produce. Meditation if done correctly actually DETACHES you from your thoughts and grounds you in the present experience.
and it wasn't invented in 1960.
Sounds like level 5 to me but idk
@@pango4646 south asian spirituality and philosophy is mind-numbingly complex. as someone studying it, I've realized all paths can lead to this same conclusion of identifying as the witness as the ultimate level of consciousness. but even that isn't the last step in some parts of indian spirituality/philosophy. some traditions say that after this identifying as the Witness, you achieve self-realization, and after that is natural Joy. this is what Shiva and Shakti represents, for example.
This makes so much sense, i feel like im always at level 8, recognizing something and making choices while under the awareness of other people's thoughts and through my memories of the thing im recognizing and the outcome of those memories, making a decision.
And the fact that you see that you are at level 8 makes you at level 9
Well I feel like I can understand level 9 but in how I act and how I decide based on how I lived and what raised me and my genetics
I act more on the level 4-5
Like the donut example yeah once he pointed it out it opened my mind but I know for damm sure beforehand and a lot of times after this I will end up grabbing the doughnut and just thinking "I'm hungry might as well" instead of all the choices that lead me to make that decision I dumb it down to "I'm hungry"
@@judahiscool3659 yeah that's the thing, your thoughts are constantly in flux, someone might undetstand a higher level and have moments of lucidity where they consider them before acting, but most of the time people probably act a level or 2 lower than they could, I think being consciously aware of the levels of thought helps
I spend most of my time at level 7 and 8, I look at everything objectively, I have almost no emotional connection to politics, to culture, etc
And when I do, I realize immediately and get embarrassed at the fact that I was even thinking like that.
I'm only 16 so I don't really make choices to be honest, all I can do is plan what choices I make in my future.
But I do silently look at the choices of everyone around me, being absolutely shocked at how many unreasonable choices people make.
Having children while being unfit(not enough money, smoker, drinker, unhappy etc), purchasing expensive vehicles, entering relationships that don't benefit them and so much more.
I realize that most people make choices that make them feel best at that time, just the idea of them making that choice makes them happy.
You see this a lot in low rated chess players, they play a move just because they liked the move, and didn't look at everything else going around in the game.
@baconbutter4857 You are not always at level 8 it is a hard mental state to achieve and therefore difficult to maintain. You spend your life like 99% of humans at level 1-3 and then when you interact with others you move up the levels as appropriate depending on your personal circumstance. Sleep level, caffeine level, sugar level relationship level etc ...
I think in 7 days racking up to almost a million views really shows that you perfectly explained something that alot of people struggle with. Definitely worth the half hour… im amazed
I love it
Well a lot of that is a purchased promotional package. It comes with fake subs, likes, and comments. I'm not saying that someone should never do this, I'm just saying that's probably what went on.
@@legalfictionnaturalfact3969 Wait sorry, what result exactly? I don't see how fake subs lead to a video doing well (if that's what you mean). Please enlighten me.
"The levels of consciousness are not good or bad, it's self-awareness"
that's good of you to point out, because I sit at a level 8 most of the time, and the bills aren't even paid yet. Sometimes you just watch and have no desire to be human now.
Yes!!! I have to force myself to engage in reality. I am constantly working on grounding. Especially since my family relationships aren’t great (mom is a narcissist) not having relationships to ground you can be dangerous. That’s why I stress duality, not oneness. Oneness is a reality in other realms, but ego and separation are a reality in this realm. You have to remember both truths.
Hmm I did go through that but I got past that ultimately, but that is a wierd feeling for sure
If it’s not good or bad then it’s not good.
@@Quincy_Morris that not really the point.
@@TheSpiritualNoob just lock in bro
The little drawings help so much more than when I tried learning this through pure text.
I hope this channel flourishes, this is incredibly helpful.
Personal examples with a walkthrough of the line of thinking helped a ton too
A lot of people (like myself) are visual learners. You could've given me a book or an audio-only version and I would've switched off after 30 seconds.
@@gooble69 exactly, if I can see it, I can figure it out on my own more or less. Just hearing it is like listening to someone give directions. Instantly forgotten once the trip starts
@@matthiasthulman4058💯💯💯
I got chills as you explained 8 and 9. You described me better than I could describe myself.
Everything in my consciousness got super weird a while back and I've been stuck feeling confused but also understanding more at the same time.
I'm now able to adjust where I'm at and come back to a healthier level...thank you so much
I found myself emotional watching this. I feel like I've sought truth out of the universe too long and not only did I not find answers but I feel like I've isolated my way of thinking from others.
I don't feel as alone now and the thought that somewhere out there someone else felt what I felt watching this makes me happy. An elevated consciousness means nothing if you forget the basics.
Thank you for your video.
I understand how you feel, as time has progressed and we become more self aware we realize the way we think, and notice our separation from others. I don't like proclaiming intelligence on any level but I know that as we increase the depth of the thought we can generate and understand, we tend to solve, live, think, feel and separate from others. This is isolating as the fact we can be viewed by other humans for having a different thought be seen as immoral and labeled as a bad person, very isolating. But it takes time to realize that sometimes the best thing to do is to fit in. Which is probably why higher levels are not intrinsically better. I found that the best way to cultivate this idea and expand volume of consciousness is to connect with other people of similar depth. Just always keep in mind, we aren't better that anyone else, and no one holds superiority, as to err is to be human. so always keep an open mind. Good luck on your journey, friend.
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for me trusting the universe and that everything will be okay is the only thing that keeps me going atp. the one thing i know is that its my friend so ill just accept what its doing for me 🤷♂
@@aura.expanse hey dude you should give "the alchemist" a read, I think you'd really enjoy it. Given your interest
I have discovered that the key is learning to "tune in" to the different consciousness levels being expressed or utilized by the individual or group, as well as being consciously aware enough about the advantages(or lack thereof) of discerning whether it is an optimal action for you(myself) to interact with them or not. To practice, you have to engage with almost all the variations of consciousness levels expressed by different beings at their own levels, however once you get the hang of it(or at least when it seems obvious for you to) you choose to associate with those that will optimize your life as well as the lives you too can optimize as well(some are more receptive than others to "change" lol).
Like a string(or in groups, strings) on a guitar, you must learn to understand and be able to recognize the tension(or lack thereof) of each consciousness level, learn to adjust your own to each variation for maximum harmony, and generate the unique symphony of experience we all love called Human Being, filled with both Joy and Suffering, and so much more.
Eventually, you will be so adept at it and the community at large will be so attuned to it that you yourself can be one of the main "Strings" that help to tune all the other strings in order to optimize the world and the future of humanity. At least, that's my theory or wish.
Regardless, good luck to all who read this, and may God bless you and your loved ones.
There’s this lady on my block that if you bring her a box of crayons and a little meth, she’ll draw this same picture and give you this exact speech.
😂😂😂
I promise you that THIS is the highest level of thinking. Joking in such a way when most would look at this all serious 😉
Or toss her a bag of mushrooms and ask how her trip was 😂
I met a lady at a motel but instead of a box of crayons or a little meth, she wanted kfc. Didn't give me a speech though, her mouth was full. But I'm sure she enjoyed the kfc once i left.
Mama Murphy? ;-)
I've been studying all of this from psychology and spiritual traditions, and personal experience for decades, but I've never seen it all in one place like this. Thank you
Yes!! It’s funny because people at a lower level will say “all these books and videos all say the same thing but in different packaging, they all just copy each other” but it’s no, they all say the same thing because the truth is the truth and everyone’s coming at it from different angles. It all connects beautifully.
spiritual traditions like paychadelics? 😶🌫️
I’m gonna say I’m at a level 7-9 most of the time. It’s both the best and worst thing, so much decision paralysis can happen when you get stuck in your own head.
yes, i'm working on that responsive time rn, being able to stay in truth for longer periods.
I feel exactly the same. Idk if I always implement it but I do remind myself of advice I heard out of a book from the 1930s. Basically, people who appear to always make the right decisions are people who make decisions quickly and see out those decisions. So it isn't important what decisions you make but if you align yourself with those decisions. So don't worry about the decision itself, but do what you need to do to make that decision the right one. If you can't decide between going to school for physics or engineering, choose one and do it. The quicker you can make decisions, the better.
On another random piece of advice, take the decisions away from yourself. If it's food decisions that bother you then write down foods you like on post it notes and grab one when you can't decide. It's been working so far for me.
I get very exhausted by making decisions all the time. It's nice to do things to remove some of that decision making, imo
Is it decision paralysis or just the enormity of complex processes going on that are leading to higher question masquerading as indecision because you haven't experienced it from another dimension in level 11 yet? That's my thinking
I think that's a part of what 9 is, is to get past that decision paralysis by essentially filtering through all the information you've accumulated
i can relate
As someone with adhd the visuals were perfect. This video helped map out a web of thinking that I’ve been struggling putting a finger on for years
this stuff is bunk
@@givemeshrubs4295 how?
@@givemeshrubs4295 you must be a level 3
@@PixelSpecies dude. My thoughts exactly
Try not to place labels on yourself.
my dad sent this to me. thank you for your video. very grateful. i love your drawings. i love everyone who is actually interested in this. anyone who sees this have a blessed day
merry christmas to you too
this gives me hope that one day, i can have a relationship with my father like that
My therapist calls this objective intellectualizing of my self and told me this is what leads to my analysis paralysis in choosing who I am. She warned me that disintegrating my identity into a collection of processes influenced by time, surroundings and values is what lays at the ground of my panic attacks when I internally realize that knowing will never get me what I want, which is - still - control, but without interfering with the agency of other people around me.
lvl 10 therapist
I see what you mean. Alot of times in life we understand things by their opposites as well, showcasing a balance in that form of thinking/feeling. Almost like for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. While I can see that these thoughts lead to a loss of self, at the same time it's your eyes interpreting light waves at whatever interval in order just to percieve, it's your skin detecting energy in the air and that's how we feel heat energy. Our minds interpret this natural world(and only at it's speed, this speed differs from thing to thing) and with every last bodily process we have we internalize this natural world and regurgitate that same info but with our own unique twist. In that way you are creating this world and that's what you have control over, the meaning of it all. And if you wanna be damned by it then you will, if it's freeing than it's freeing.
@@adriancape4752 lvl 8 spirit pathology
You have to accept at some stage and others, you MUST interfere with other people's internal agency. There is no escaping this without becoming a self sustaining hermit
level 4 is right wing, level 6 is left wing, level 7 is the whole plane
My man, you have no idea how easy you made it for me to understand how to properly do shadow work. As much as I love everyone else in the sphere, your explanation was nice and to the point. That example you gave with the illustrations toward the end of the video did better to illustrate proper shadow work than any video I’ve watched since I’ve started this journey. Thank you and I love you
When level 7 was introduced, my mind was blown. I’ve been having a realization over the past few months that i’ve been improving a lot because i’ve spent a lot of time rethinking my actions throughout my life and what motivated them, how others felt, how those feeling would make me feel, how others would view me if they saw me behaved that way, understanding that different people have different views a lot variety of topics that might seem objective at first, accepting people just think differently and have very different views and goals. I started a new job which i drive an hour to and from so i have a lot of thinking time. I’ve thought about my life over and over. I also acknowledge i have a very different mind now then i did prior to college, my life goals feel more narrowed in and my maturity feels more engrained. I understand that comes with time and experiences, both of those turning me who i am today.
Such a great video, i will be thinking about this all week
Edit: I believe i’ve used level 8 and 9 a decent amount of times recently, for sure when i got close to graduating college, and when i started my new job. After i few times of realizing i was actually fixing bad habits using my mind to reinforce good thoughts and behaviors, i made a mental map of areas of my self i what to work on and broke those areas into bits of benefits and cons. Learning about yourself by examining yourself is one of the coolest things. I still have alot to work on but i can tell improvements have been made and it’s only the beginning
Hey brother, good to hear. Remember though thought isn’t consistent and it’s not you so do not attach yourself to it. No matter how high level it seems, observing is more important ❤ 💯
I love this, it’s so refreshing to hear more about this in others
@@UniversalMusicLtd584 Observing yes, the more watch myself, the more i critique the habits and behaviors i don’t think are beneficial to my long term goals. Reminds of a quote from some story. “They are learning how they learn”
This is the first time Ive seen a whole ass paragraph, like a almost essay like sentences or whatevs the word or sentence im trying to create.
This is a bit new.
But did you realize that you were realizing that you were developing and altering habits through time. Did you watch yourself in your observation of observing. Why? Why did you do that? See the thing is there is a level ten. That everyone fears and avoids like the plague. The question is : why? Why do you do any of this? Why watch at all? And then it goes further. Why ask the question why?
The drawings feel more authentic and less pretentious because it avoids the trappings that often characterize such topics. I love it! When I dived into this channel for relationship advice, I never expected to be catapulted into this sort of thing. Thank you!
I often tell people “I don’t feel real”, yet I never related to depersonalization/derealization because I still *feel* things, and I’m not numb. This is the first time I’ve ever listened to, or read, something that explained the state of mind I so love being in. Thank you for sharing your insight with us! ☺️
yeah i also tried telling people what i feel and people told me to stop taking drugs. So since then I dont tell anyone anything and i silently do the things i want in my life to climb the ladder and people are dumbstruck. I don't even say anyone "how" i do it, rather that its just luck. 😂
Are you sure you don't "feel real" or do you just experience feelings of disconnection and transience? It's a basic philosophical axiom that the only thing we can really be assured of as "real" is our own thoughts and being. "I think, therefore I am". It sounds more like you feel as if the world around you isn't "real" rather than you yourself are not "real".
I had a similar experience back in highschool, where I tried explaining to my friends that "I'm not black, (My real name) is, and it's up to him to define what that means to him."
@@AlwaysBetOnDouk it’s hard to describe. I’ve written many poems attempting to, and still don’t feel like I’ve done it justice. But to answer your question, yes, I’m sure it’s not just me feeling as though the world around me is isn’t real!
You might find the books "The Power of Now" and/or "A New Earth" by Eckhart Tolle interesting to read. They are spiritual books that explain what lies beyond the levels described in this video. If you are experiencing what you described, I think those books can be of great value to you. They are not religious or anything. They explain what the mystics through time, from of all traditions were pointing towards, but in a modern clear and accessible language. I can't ask you to trust me on this because who the heck am I? But nevertheless, I'm suggesting it. Good luck on your journey where ever it takes you!
Yeah. At level higher thinking my internal monologue spilts. It's extremely fun daydreaming like this.
Like you’re having your own conversation with your self and there’s an audience there and also a commentator.
@marcellomoore9755 yes
I took AP psychology last year and it when pretty in depth about a lot of these topics, but now just a year later I realize I didn’t really retain a lot of the information that I think was most valuable. I just binged your whole channel and you put things in a way that really stick in a way that reading a textbook doesn’t quite do. I love your videos and I hope this channel makes you rich
you did not retain the knowledge of psychology as it was taught by female lecturers or in their syntax. Check "Sex and Culture" by Unwin + Brave New World by Huxley and you will have wider view on psychology
If you forget easily exercise your mind by jornaling
In schools in my cointry they used chalk boaurds for every student and they woulld wipe the chalk away right after they finished the stupidity of it is obvious in retrospective but we do that with good thoughts we dont write down
Your education doesn't stop outside of your schooling there's a enormity of wealth of information online if you can locate and secure reliable trusted sources of information.
Bro is working his way out of level 3
He doesn't need to be rich.
Dude this channel is so cool and expresses so many new ideas that I've genuinely never seen anywhere else. So cool that you do this and share your thoughts and thinking with us. Whether it does or doesn't get loads of views, it's so interesting to see these ideas expressed and taught. It's as if you've discovering your own useful branch of psychology and sharing it with the world, super dope stuff.
I know right?? This dude's insane for coming up with this much stuff by himself
@@name_adi I don't believe these are original thoughts. people have thought these things before him, and he has probably read up on those texts. there is a chance he has come up with the ideology independent of those texts which is commendable but unlikely imo
@@aryansharma9727 I think its just the fact that hes on youtube and graphically complied them in an easy format which is nice. Anybody that takes information and compiles it to make it easier for people to understand is smart
The subject matter isn't new, the capsule in which he explained it is incredibly well done and likely easier to digest for most though
Read power vs force by David Hawkins if you want this kind of info
I never saw a metacognitive breakdown of this before, but this is a banger video. On level 8 there's probably the perception of the passage of time, which changes depending on the scale you're operating at (like flow state.) Many people treat that as accidental and are peripherally of aspects of it, but consciously entering it is on an even higher since it deals with our attention and relationship with time. Being aware of the threshold of consciousness and what lies outside of it, and actively modifying those boundaries to serve us better might be around that level as well. There's so many levels beyond and I hope to keep noticing them now
this is a fresh comment i hope to one day notice things to your degree
Isn't passage of time on level 7? I understood that on level 8 you see all the events at the same time as if they were not ordered in time. Like, when you conceive a 4D surface as a MOVIE of a morphing 3D surface, you are on level 7, but when you understand the 4D surface as a whole by understanding it's EQUATION you are on level 8.
How you explained it at the end is how I always explain it to myself how everyone is the “main character” in a sense of their own lives
I hope this channel becomes more then just dating advice. I love his ability to communicate complex ideas in an easy to understand way.
I would really think it would be great, but it would probably suck if he tried to force it, talking about things he doesn't like or care about. I mean, let's just hope this dude have interests beyond dating. This video suggests it does. I hope he doesn't fall for that trap of betting always on the money making machine thing (which is easy even for smart people because, you know, involves money), making videos that please the algorithm and not himself.
PS: I just got here on the channel, I wasn't even aware of the dating advice theme, but I loved it.
it was dating advice huhhh
this is trash
@@21morphathis is the first video I've ever seen from this channel. I like it, but yeah I hope the rest isn't the typical alpha/sigma male bullshite or I'll be gone.
@@wg8561its not. I've seen his tiktoks he bashes both sides
This is the most clearly stated intellectual dissertation I've ever seen someone make on the internet in a long time. Power to you hoe_math. It's like a breathe of fresh air watching this. Time army? LOVE IT! Nice ring to it.
Bruh plz tell me your not over 15 years old
No Time Army for you then. Good riddance.@@anim8dideas849
@@anim8dideas849 Lmao!
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Please. I beg you, get rid of this garbage and adopt the actual levels of thought. These are not them. These are considerations non-indicative of higher thinking. Study Bloom's Taxonomy, it's better.
I finally stumbled upon something that explains my way of thinking! Whenever I deep talk with people, I feel like I'm talking past each other. I always tried to explain that I saw the world in a 'zoomed out' way, but I always had the feeling that I wasn't fully understood.
I'm constantly at an 8. Sometimes I try to 'stop thinking' and then I am passively a 9 but focusing on lower levels. But most of the.time I am a 9 but with nichilistic and owerwealming Perspektive on life so its quite 'depersonalising' and 'derealising' because you cant 'choose' a sertain path. so you are just existing but in a 'philosophical' way. you dont really have passion but thinking about existencial (zoomed out) and psychological (zoomed in) things.
Yes I often feel like I look at life and earth from an alien perspective seeing everything anew yet complex.
I know exactly what you're referring too. Reading some of these comments about people claiming they're level 7 or above and making my own theories on what is higher than level 9, it's alright people don't understand you. Sometimes I have to realize not everyone thinks at the same level as I do and I have to humble myself and simplify the concept. I honestly believe people operating at this level are neurodivergent because I am, and we will lead our civilization to the stars. We are the future of mankind.
THIS!!!! Yes. I feel like people look at me like I’m crazy but whatever 😂
Using my high level thinking Im thinking you just think youre the smartest in the room at all times and are very egoistic. I hope Im right!!!
I'd absolutely would love a detailed video per level, what it means, how it would affect one's life, its positives and negatives, what though processes are needed to sustain it and how to train / practice thinkingat that level.
Cuz if I just 'sit and think', my mind just races off to epic fantasy adventures and space battles within about 10 minutes.
I was an art major. Keep your doodles as they are. They are a perfect compliment to your spoken word and quick editing style. If thr drawings were any more detailed or more complex it would distract people more and most likely lose viewers.
I used to drink heavily and lost my "self". It took me 1.5 years of trial and error and many therapy sessions and CBT lessons to finally become aware of my "self" again and progress through mindfulness exercises. I've had a lot of time to just sit and think during the last 9 years now. Your video has helped me understand and visually compartmentalize the various levels and states of awareness. I think it might be difficult to progress to each next level past the white line without having someone else to talk about and relate to it with. I think I sit somewhere in 6 and waver back and forth down to 3 or 4 and then up to 7.
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This man literally just took me through every level as he explained it. Thinking through level 9 is nuts af
I’m autistic with ADHD and I’m usuallly on a level 8, if not, level 7. when I get high however, I get wired into level 9 and gradually to go back to level 7-8 once sober. At times level 9 thinking can last for days.
Honestly I believe that this is the cause of hyper awareness of masking, sensory processing, and emotional intelligence. As hoe math said, sometimes higher isn’t better, with all that self awareness comes daunting self responsibility and forced self reflection
@@wymsicalguySame I don’t like 8 very well. I found it ironic that level 1 had autism as the pathology but (I high dislike this term) most “HF ASD” people understand up to 7 from an early age and can (doesn’t mean they do) process on 8 a lot due to the constant analysis on their social interactions because we have to do those manually; however, ONLY if they are aware they are autistic. Elsewise you get stuck in the lower levels (under 5).
Edit: I agree completely on the sobriety aspect. Unless I’m medicated this does not work.
@@wymsicalguy yeah maybe u should rewatch the vid a few times, don't think u really get it
level 9 is quite literally just monist thinking which has been around for centuries, there are 1 billion teachers for self realization and the process for it, this video just describes A CONSTRUCTED levelling process that isn't correlated with reality in any sense and is entirely based on his experience
i spend most of my time between level 8 and 9 and i have to say it is incredibly exhausting. Every 6 months or so i get a completely different results on my personality tests and it feels like i'm a completely different person and cant recognize myself, sometimes i read text from only 2 years ago and im completely baffled with what i wrote and come to the realization that it literally was a different person as i have change over time due to my subjective experiences and im observing the fact that i observed that. And it makes me realize that i truly have that unlimited possibilities on who i could become and who i am. Its like so to me everything is completely subjective including my own mind and the way i observe my mind is also subjective. "I think therefore i am" feels like it doesnt apply me. Because how can i be sure that that is the case, what about the me that thought 2 years ago, that me was a completely different me, its not the me as i know me today and its definitely not the me that i will be in the future, is the me of today even the me of the future, am I truly even me or even real? What even am I?
Your brain is beautiful, man. A lot of these stuff I’ve thought about before on my own, but I don’t have the skill set nor the knowledge nor the patience to synthesize and order them like this.
Your videos really have given me a lot of clarity about a lot of things, and now I’m deeply interested in reading and learning more about psychology.
This is becoming one of my favorite UA-cam channels.
i’ve always tried to understand my consciousness but never really knew how or if it was a thing. this makes so much sense, thank you.
One of the hardest things I learn as a teen was something a therapist told me and I hate " Anxiety is extremely individualistic". I FEELS like it's not cause you are always thinking "But what they would think about me?" but you are not actually being aware of other peoples feelings you are just stuck in your head ASSUMING you know what they think. You are extremely aware of your actions and thought but now enough aware of the PROCESS of thought.
Thats why (I think) anxiety could be a 6.
I think each level creates new opportunities for anxiety to present itself. Hell even level 1 could be extremely anxiety inducing because the world is a strange confusing place you don't understand.
I agree. For me the assumption of knowing iz based on knowing SELF in which one can understand what others may be thinking in that moment. Now an important thing to remember is it works better when you know said otherz. ÷
Anxiety is mostly focused on level 1 diminishing in 2 and 3. With more perspectives the anxiety goes down. Holding on to your ego is level 1 anxiety.
I would say I legit reached level 8 in the last week after a profound realization, but I still struggle with anxiety. Like you said there are many reasons for anxiety. Learned response, external stimuli, too selfconscious. I also reflect personalities so if I am around someone super anxious it makes me anxious as well
Too small of thinking
also understanding that the most important factor that determines the opinion others have of you is their own sate of mind and their own percepion of reality, and you can't change that, neither you shoud care.
There are two parallels I noticed that are fascinating:
1) how these psychological/societal levels correspond to the explanation of the 10 physical dimensions.
2) how the ancient philosophy of Stoicism defaults at beginning the practitioner at Construct Awareness(Lvl8) and places it's goal making Lvl9 the default Lvl1 perspective, which could be said to be the goal of other philosophies/religious traditions(Buddhism for example), but it is the only such philosophical tradition I'm aware of that is fundamentally constructed to begin at such a high level of awareness instead of gradually achieving it.
Great Videos btw,
thank you for doing what you do.
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Very insightful!!
i was thinking the same with dimensions too thats crazy
oh brother how in the hell do you relate the 10 levels to the 10 dimensions lol. Like tell me one distinc thing about the "curled up" dimensions 5-10 and how they relate to anyhting on this list. the only similaritty is that there are 10 of them. It would be pretty cool if there was some fundemental connection between the structure of our universe and the structure of our consiousness but comparing two (flawed) models and then assuming some fundemental connection is non-scientific. First we would need to determine that this is a proper model of concousness for attacking the question. Also, the 6 curled up spatial dimenssions in string theory have never been measured or observed and string theory is only one group of theories that attempts to explain quantum gravuty. There are many others that don't involve extra dimensions
My jaw was on the floor for most of this video, and not just your animations lol, but rather that I felt myself following along from my own life over the last few years. Recalling times of so-called 'shedding my skin' after low points in my life, saying like "oh yep, that was my exact observation level in high school, College, etc.". I always figured there was something out there like this but never 'on the head' as this. My stoic and amazing dad told me several times growing up that I just thought differently than my peers, and whenever I found myself frustrated about the inevitable alienation that I began to foster around myself, I realized that everyone around me really only thought for themselves and over trivial stuff no less. Growing up around people much older than myself, I managed to live through a depression of prolonged loneliness because I truly felt that somehow what I thought was intrinsically "correct" or "mature". As you said, "...higher does not always mean better." and that could not be more true, perception or wisdom or whatever 100% come at a price; whether sanity, happiness, connections, or anything else. In any regard, thank you for reading this post and a thin slice of my life, i continue to live humbly on the path of life that we all will continue to walk. 'Learning' too much too quickly can be a difficult, and often painful, hurtle to jump, but i encourage everyone to never quit and know when you are just spinning your wheels in life. Be patient, always take a step back whenever you find yourself lost to your emotion. Sorry for the rant, I rarely if ever comment on videos but this felt different, this is a great video with much to process. I hope everyone has a great life ahead!!!
You are beautiful!
Thank you for the comment 😌
Thanks for sharing... I felt pretty much the same as you do.
The, "I have a sinking cruiser" send me rolling! Xd
Whenever I go through my "introspective spirals" in I'm left with an alien feeling, like, if the world I'm living is so gray and artificial... I now believe that those spirals are what happen when I negatively go in that 6-7-8-9-8-9 loop... As you say, it's like having a cruiser... *BUT A SINKING ONE* LMAO XD
I automatically reset my level to my good old 4 - 5 zone after some time. Only going higher when I need or want to. Higher levels consume too much power :v xd
I relate pretty heavily, I spent alot of time alone growing up and as a result was in my head alot and still am sometimes to a problem extent maybe. I really appreciate this video because it actually opened my eyes to some of the pitfalls in thinking that can make you spiral abit. Ive been trying to work on myself and improve like anyone and I think this video will help me maybe not stumble so much in the process.
Throughout the past year, I've started journaling from time to time when i have thoughts that i deem somehow "significant". The more i grow and think, the more i start to feel like a silent observer. When you read the "complete" tab, it shocked me. I blushed. I couldn't believe that you had just described the mental state I have been burdened with for the past several months. I realized that I had been spending more time here than other tiers. My refraining from distraction with alcohol, social situations and gluttony, the more I began to stay in this mindset. Thanks for this video. It was really interesting to see how you visualized all of your tiers and explained the progression from one to another. I'd love to chat sometime. Cheers!
I had a lot of issues and was depressed so to escape I had to rip my consciousness apart and dissect where all my issues were coming from. The last example you gave with your drawings was surprisingly exactly the way I figured out how to work through my problems
It was the same with me. I think the journey to self-improvement requires you find higher and higher levels of understanding.
Hey there, I'd highly recommend checking out Buddhism (This isn't some "you need jesus" crap, Buddhism is a method of living in this life). The 4 noble truths are literally about that, accepting that suffering is, that you can find the root cause of it, that you can stop it and then a "path" towards living without. Ripping apart your consciousness is exactly that. Also, HealthyGamer GG channel is an excellent start.
@@FurlessApe22really interesting thanks for the insight
He says: "this isn't some you need Jesus crap"
Then proceeds to offer a religion that you spend essentially forever trying to quit being reborn even though you have no soul or person.
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All based on the teachings of a man who was just one of the many bodhisattva BUT *specifically* from the "Tuṣita" heaven, (buddhist cosmology is migrane inducing, cuz ya kno: "dukkha") who, depending on which opinion from which buddist "off-shoot"/sect (in other words no one knows, or EVER DID) decided to take the shape of a "white elephant to be reborn on Earth for the last time."
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This white elephant, enlightened state buddha, from a specific heaven, for whatever reason, went into what I guess he chose to be his mother's womb (via her right side?) to be born, but was still a result of sex of his mom and dad(?).
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All this to live a life in search of how to "detach" and "break the cycle" which he for some reason was the first one to "figure it out" giving us the "middle road" to achieve nirvana as a means to quit being born over and over again (be good or you might be born as a dung beetle)
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BUT....
No "Jesus crap" though...
Obviously you can do whatever you want, you've been GIVEN the free will to do whatsoever you please.
But don't try to reduce the real undeniable existence of Jesus Christ to "crap".
Jesus Christ, who factually lived, that we have verifiable first hand witness accounts of, is backed by historical, archeological, and scientifical evidence...not to mention the literary miracle, the Bible, and it's never been exhausted details and explanations for human existence, creation, meaning, moral values, reason for suffering/evil, death, eternal life after...
but yeah....Buddhism bro, no Jesus "crap", btw check out this dudes channel he's like super close to nirvana man."
I say all that to say this: Believe it or not I got nothing but love for you and since I come from a Catholic upbringing which led me to hate church in the Bible only to eventually come to the realization that my preconceived notions and bias towards the Bible we're not fair and we're founded in my CONTINUED dislike (to say the least) of Roman Catholicism.
once I put aside my preconceived motions biases opinions and simply just looked in to studying the historicity of the Bible alongside some personal spiritual self-reflection and prayer I came to what I believe to be the only logical conclusion and quite easy to come to with that, which is simply that the Bible is exactly what it claims to be.
Jesus of Nazareth, Son of God (literally God in the flesh) came down here 2023 years ago (current year=how long since His bday, go backwards for anytime before [BC] lol, world changing event) to be murdered by His own creation, for you.
God in the flesh, who made the entire universe, was sentenced to Capital punishment: death by Roman Crucifixion.
Order was given by one "Pontius Pilot" who was the fifth governor of the Roman province of Judaea, serving under Emperor Tiberius.
As a result, your Creator, suffered a horrific death, being tortured, spit on, mocked, beard ripped out, and the One who made the entire planet, hung bloody, entirely naked, disfigured, entrails showing;
this He suffered while having the power to come down off the cross and wipe out all humanity at any point if He wanted to but no, instead we read in Luke 23:34 'Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do...'
God in the flesh died for you.
Because if you're honest with yourself you know that you are what the Bible would call a sinner.
Because besides Jesus who lived a perfect sinless life (only way to be a perfect sacrifice on our behalf is to be perfect) so is EVERYONE ELSE who ever lived.
And a perfect God cannot allow sin into a perfect place such as heaven because if He did, man would ruin all of outer space/heaven just like we are doing to Earth.
And the judgement for sin, anything less than perfection, is death and eternity seperated from God in hell.
But hell wasn't even made for you, Matthew 25:41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire PREPARED for the DEVIL and his ANGELS."
And He died for all of His creation because He loves us:
John 3:16-17 KJV
[16] For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. [17] For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved."
So he took your place on the cross, died for your sins, took your sins down to hell when He went there for you and dropped them off, rose from the dead on the 3rd day according to the scriptures, and ascended back up to His rightful place in Heaven.
All that just in the HOPES (because He isn't a slave owner He gave you free will) that you will accept His FREE GIFT (you don't earn it) so that you can be forgiven, clean by blood of the "Lamb".
These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:
1 John 5:13-14 KJV
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
Romans 10: 9-10
⁹ that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
¹⁰ For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."
Romans 10:13
¹³For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Get saved brothers/sisters, God doesn't want you trying to worry about breaking The Reincarnation cycle trying to achieve Nirvana or get whatever prize whatever religion is offering you by your own works.
No he wants you to know that you are going to heaven by simply trusting in Jesus Christ dying for your sins. He wants you to have peace, hope, purpose, meaning, a literal one on one personal relationship with you; and to spend eternity in Heaven with you there.
We aren't guaranteed tomorrow, but we are guaranteed to die; don't put it off just simply trust Jesus Christ (cuz it's not crap, only reLIEgion is) and I hope to see yall topside after this short life on earth.
Love.
Life is Short
Death is Sure
Sin the Curse
Christ the Cure
Wow, same to me, i am astounded on the fact other people come up with that and effectively implement it to solve those infinite issues
When you realize that thoughts are not actually coming from your inner self but you are actually the observer of the thoughts then we can truly begin to ascend our levels of thought. Great video man!
The truth is that there IS no "observer". Once you realise that, you'll truly be enlightened. Look up Sam Harris's explanation of free will and meditation.
You are simultaneously object, actor, and observer.
I love how chaotic and confusing this is and somehow it still manages to make everything understandable XD
I think the doodles look pretty cute. The important part is finding your way to explain the what you want!!
this is nonsense if you have read works by greek philosophers you would know this video is far from accurate
@@baldworkswhich works are you talking about? I have read some works on philosophy myself, and its my understanding that many of these philosophers would concede that their way of thinking might not be right or wrong, it just is the way it is, and the philosophy is often a tool for navigating this world and our own life
It's a whole vibe. It all works beautifully together, somehow.
@@baldworks I never said it didn’t make sense, the way he presents the video is a bit chaotic but in a good way
I loved all of it!
The way I framed it must’ve been misleading for you :)
@@danlightened I agree!
This is an uncanny scientific description and distillation of zen practices and the results they can achieve. This stuff is usually communicated via metaphor, but you do an amazing job of putting it into concrete terms.
I don't think "metaphor" versus "concrete terms" make sense here. I think "metaphor with Western symbols" versus "metaphor with Eastern symbols" do. I did this once, translating concepts from ancient Chinese medicine (if you can call it that way) to our words, they were still metaphors, but now they made sense to us.
For example, Ying and Yang were analogous to the Freudian internal mother and father in that specific context. Internal father or mother is not something concrete, it is still a metaphor, but it uses references that make sense in our frame of reference.
This is why ignorance at times is bliss and being able to turn it off is hard for me and often when i have too much free time i indulge in thinking and over analyzing actions. it gets very exhausting
Agreed. It's physically exhausting, even. Brain uses too many calories
@@DreLaurent I’ve been trying to live more in ignorance lately 😭
@@DreLaurent Dr. K has a good video about this, I too, overanalyze things.
I think there's this term called analysis paralysis
its mentally draining, but you need to also dive into why its so exhausting and understand that part of it too in order to figure out solutions to slow down and give your mind a rest when needed. By knowing how to do it, when to do it, its like a car with or without a fuel gauge, it makes all the difference in the world to have one. Can't always be at full throttle all the time, need to know an efficient speed to max out this mental mileage... life gets better when you find how your own mind works.
@@DreLaurent I don’t believe that ignorance is bliss. I only believe in contingency.
Level 10 sounds like being in the flow state of creation or working out, actually getting the brain to quiet down and just live
stoicism lvl complete
Flow is an ACTUAL level of consciousness, like fight or flight or focused attention. This is Ken Wilbur's pseudo science bullsht.
That's more like level 0 !
Exactly, level 10 is when you realize all this rationalization is fun but has its limits and and you’re back to going straight from will to action
In numerology, 9 is the final and perfect level.
This is where I’ve been. Your video was the confirmation that I’m definitely evolved and yet evolving.
Honestly I’ve been in the red pill space for around 10 years now. You’re like the only channel that hasn’t made it worse nor dilute it with bad material. Instead you make simple explanations and diagrams to help get people to understand! Thank you so much
All the red pill content I've seen focuses on "how to defend your interests as a man." I dislike the partiality of that, and I want to make people into overflowing fountains of giving who make shrewd choices about who to give to, rather than fearing who not to give to. It's an all-around better orientation.
@@hoe_math that’s fair the content has greatly went downhill. This is reminiscent to the 2015-2018 glory days.
really don't understand the appeal of red pilled content, it implies there is a good way to do things and most of the time content itself is rather toxic...
@@_vapor I agree. See it started with literally just taking the pill that women weren’t these angelic creatures that you get by being nice, sweet, and showering them with love. Due to all romance movies having the nerd get the girl at the end etc. redpill taught that it’s the masculine attractive men who got the girl, that being rich is a priority as well and that women are capable of extremely bad behavior as well……I remember content before that and for my age group it was terrible. Created a bunch of “betas” “simps” “nice guys” etc that became Incels later on.
So red pill isn’t needed now but in the past it definitely was
@hoe_math Hey man, I love your content! Why are you doing it? (I would love to see a video about it) I wanted to make a long comment here, about how I think you are not aware of how your videos could be interpreted.. especially in a short form it might have a different meaning that you would like to convey, however, I only have an assumption what you want with these videos!
Also, who the fuck I am to talk.. just felt like I would like a comment like this if I were you.. :$
(English is not my first language, I hope grammatically I am saying what I mean :D )
Ive been around the world. I was in and out of college from 87 till 2012, five major changes, finally a masters in counseling. I work in community mental health. All that to say, this is PhD worthy presentation and better than most self help material available today. Thank you. I love the drawing and i am inspired. I have been writing daily since 2020 and have overcome my worry about my poor grammar. I did this process but still havent communicated why people should just do it as well as you did here.
Take it from the four-time dropout who isn’t doing research
Wow I loved this entire video.
I try to spend a lot of time at level 7 or 8 thinking, I have considered it my “reactionary pause”. It’s the pause while you watch your instinctual response and then deciding what is the best action to take to stay within my character.
When I act out of anger/fear, or feel like I am acting outside of what I choose to be my best character- I often feel as if I have let myself down.
im mostly varrying over level 8 and 9 and i gotta say, it is nice to see that someone understands or comprehends what is actually happening in our thinking i thank you greatly for this video
you are not bro you listen to phonk lmfao
@@fleursendecembreIt’s okay you’ll get there some day child
This makes a lot of sense and explains why I'm constantly wondering how other people are unable to see the "bigger picture".
I thought about my thought process throughout the video and came to the conclusion, that I shift between everyone of those levels constantly, but mostly operating from level 7.
Sometimes more primal urges come up and I find myself in the lower levels, until I realise my own stubbornness lmao
lol yeah is like you know you are going primal and suddenly decide to go up again. imo is good to be like that sometimes, if not, you won't be able to enjoy the small things. operating in high levels is draining, so those things are better applied when your activities involve other people and not only yourself.
There is always two angels of every count, what are you failing to see as well
You said something 8 there lol
Quite relatable in some ways
@@IDRC3000
I’ve found that whiskey helps with more comfortable operation at any level.
My whole life I thought I was insane or thought too deeply and was always being judged for seeing things too out there. I understand now that I was never the problem, they were just not at my level of understanding, which is not a problem to me or at all, really, as I understand everyone has their own way of perceiving life and themselves as it is. I’m so glad I found this video, it’s pretty impressive and I feel so at ease now. Thank you so much for taking the time to accomplish this!
@@DianaGarcia-zb7qf let’s talk more about this!
You’re poking right through to level 6, according to this video
@@DianaGarcia-zb7qf Elon Musk thought he was insane. Welcome to the big pic!!
This is a really cool way to organize ways of thought, but I'm getting the vibe that it attracts people who have an intelligence superiority complex, giving them a way to 'rank' how smart they are and others are
I assume intelligent people would do anything to stay on the lower levels. Higher levels describe and lead to madness more than intelligence in my opinion.
Yes, it does. Everybody who is ranking themselves is at most and most often at 5. Higher levels would not.
I’m sure that’s just a general rule of ideology.
There’s always someone ruining things.
This is a just a hyper aware categorization of cognition beyond the self.
If someone’s gonna turn that into bullying, that was always their plan lol
Absolutely the oposite in my case. I have almost no intuition and have to intellectualize everything to understand. I makes me feel like a fool trying to understand and categorize everything instead of just living. So material like this speak in the languaje i understand better, humbeled, not proud because of that
Ohhh yeah lol, good point. Pretty sure there’s another chart for that lol
I hit level 9 for the first time this weekend. I didn’t know levels existed until this video popped up on my recommended. So thank you! I couldn’t stay in level 9 because it made it difficult to communicate to others. It is nice to know it’s a level I can reach as needed but sometimes ignorance really is bliss 😊
My gf and a friend have talked abt this and we like to actually analyze ppl. It starts with expression, then substance, then reasoning behind substance, and then mindset. Expression is what someone shows directly. Their clothes, how they say stuff, anything that just on a superficial level u can describe or categorize them as. Then comes substance. What r they actually saying. It’s like you can say “yes” in a excited way or a hesitant way and it would convey different meanings. Then comes substance behind reasoning. A great example is your brain drawing. Everything u just said about why a girl doesn’t like you (sorry) is reasoning behind substance. Then comes mindset. Which is way harder to explain, but it’s the true origin behind everything you do. It’s kind of like your 7th degree of conscious. Like you see how all of their experiences culminate and you describe exactly why ppl do things. You can never describe someone’s mindset in a single word or phrase, but rather it is the culmination of everything as a person. If you can understand mindset you can understand the entire person as a whole. Anyways what I’ve been wanting to say is that I think you’re 9th level is unfinished. The 8th level is the recognition of the culmination of everything, but then 9th level is not only being able to understand your own culmination of everything, but someone else’s and truely experiencing what they have gone through. See you just desciebed a pattern of conscious and the pattern keeps on going as you go higher and higher and the 9th level is no exception. What you just described is the ability to analyze someone as a whole. The second level is the ability to understand someone else’s expression and then so on and so on (sorry i forgot what each level, but I hope u get the idea). Anyways the 9th level is the ability to understand the person as a whole, but then there is a 10th thing that i feel like is there but I wouldn’t nessecarily call it a level of conscious just more like a realization. You realize that all the information u perceive no matter how object, is finite. You can never truely define everyhting. There is no absolute in anything other than yourself. I believe this is where the cycle comes to a circle. You then come back to the level 1 of consious and build. Keep in mind it is not a cycle but more like the end of a circle. After realizing everything you possibly can, you just go from there. I know what I’ve just described might not seem real to some people and even to others as superficial. But truly know what i’m talking about you need to experience it.
Who da fuck ARE you? My god how is this level of wisdom possible and what philisophies did you study?
I don't usually respond to comments but I found this interesting. I would agree with your 'level 10' sort of idea, not as a state of consciousness but a rule of life. But i wouldn't agree with your level 9 in the context of the video. The first reason being, as you said all information is finite which means therefore it can be lost or withheld by individuals. Which would mean for the reality of your level 9 to exist ("but someone else’s and truly experiencing what they have gone through") be impossible. This would kind of have to make me delve into 2 sub reasons as to why but i think this stems from misinterpretation of the video. I don't think hoe math's level 9 was to experience and understand the culmination of *someone else's* experience and existence but instead was the ability to like he said, "knowing where to watch those things"- in context to level 8. Level 8 being the ability to understand the culmination of YOUR experience in real time, to understand the understanding and observe the observing of the culmination. What I drew from the video, the idea of level 9 is the level of thought required to understand which area's to focus on, once again "the *responsibility* for *knowing*-( which in context is the parent to level 8 as a value), *where*-(in reference to being able to understand a higher level of where observing observation is required and necessary, and to understand its role and value in your own observation) to watch those things" that was my interpretation, I look forward to a response. Do correct any of my mistakes from your argument.
Yeah, I agree that to do actual stuff in the real world anything above 4 starts to be an obstacle to life
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@@2terra259 after reading this over i think u may beright, it is more of "self awareness" that hoe math's level 9 is pointing out. But to be fair, @user-lu7rc5br5e said that they think lvl 9 is unfinished - basically it is missing empathy ("but someone else’s and truly experiencing what they have gone through").
I feel like I actually recently reached the level where I'm observing my habits and sense of identity changing over time and observing how I observe and even the daily flow through the levels of consciousness. That bit at the end really resonated where you get to thinking about thinking so hard and long that you basically end up with "you gotta start somewhere so this thing might as well be good enough for now"
I reckon this is described by the tarot card The Fool, which is numbered 0 because it's both at the top and the bottom of the archetypes
Carl Jung would love you hoe_math, the exploration of the (accurate) archetypes here is incredible
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Archetypes stop working about level 4, they work only till certain level, above that you create your own type, without any ancient meanings and this is why psychology is innacurate and rather theoretical, non-masculine.
@@Volsenon-feminine too, it would make all this “life shit” more alienating and less human
@@Volse There's only so many stories you can tell. You're telling me you aren't a character in one?
@@JohnDoe-iu5xi I am character in one but I am living and not being lived by others anymore. It is complexed subject which was solved in ancient times but due to collapse of peace 4 times within last 2000 years we are forced again to rethink how to live. Pax Romana laster till Roman Empire collapse, insufficient silver in market and 4 generations of christianity killed the empire, made women a neck of men (head) and started a revoke of Goddess Kali religion among women. Pax Mongolica lasted long and prosperous, it was the safest time to live long and prevention was set by law - some of those laws are still in islamic countries but evolved or were forced with time to be "western" (example Libya). Pax Britannica brought end to official slavery and introduced new ways of efficient working in factories. Pax Americana did split world in two, pushed technology forward, peoples minds were forced to increase tacting above 50Hz - life started to "escape", became fast paced and unnatural for women. All of aspects from each peace lands today and meet together in society in form of red pill versus feminism. We are in 4th generation of rotting with money without value and Gen Z swiping tablets - next Pax will be the biggest and hopefully it will be more like Mongolica or Brittanica as personally I would like slow food, slow life, slow pace and experience it .
Maaaaate you got it down. I live in 8 as baseline, drop down a few levels depending on situation and other variables in current life.
Your stuff on higher level thinking reminds me of the double slit experiment, where the act of observation changes the things action.
You are tackling the “hard problem of consciousness” wonderfully my friend. I would love to collaborate, keep it up!
My experience with immigration to a country with better education at a young age really accelerated me into level 5 without fully developing understanding/comfort in level 2-4. I think that this forced me to start reasoning how different groups do things without understanding what I want, what I am, what I believe in. I'm not sure how else it has messed me up but I feel messed up. I feel like a very developed onion with a bunch of layers, but at the core I am empty. Being able to word this out is really helpful. Thank you for your video.
Very developed Onion is an excellent description! I've also gone through a similar up bringing and had to completely unravel the onion to properly understand and observe myself. I still haven't completely unravelled everything, as a very developed onion it takes a while to go through those layers, but as you untangle your own layers you gain a new level of Consciousness.
Huh, I feel this a lot. Couldn't have put it into words like you did, though.
I think I understand what you mean , I also needed to have that kind of awareness without having the chance to think about myself in anyway , as I grew up in a neglectful household.
So not so long-ago I experienced a time where I revisited myself and my urges , for that to happen I needed a safe space which for me was my mind.
Anyway my point is , I have also felt empty before and I always felt like i was messed up in a way, but it's not constant it goes away .
Maybe You need to go (and You Will) throught all nasty phases to fill what You haven't got
Borderline personality disorder... depending on the severity of your emotions 😂
That's the diagnosis I give myself. I even realize Im in the moment become a slightly tailored version to them, that slowly becomes more like them, that makes it hard for people to not hangout with me, or to engage with sex easy, again I realized my internal processes are so dissociative and almost out of control, it's frightening, especially splitting because I'm kinda dangerous with both Internalizing and Externalizing 😂
"Flowers for Algernon" by Daniel Keyes, I think it's a great book that takes you through each of these levels from a first-person perspective.
An impaired man takes a pill for a study and it enhances his intelligence. You're able to watch his thoughts build up, fluctuate, and decline. Made my cry. A must-read in life!!
Oh my god, I read this book about a month ago and I absolutely adore it! It’s so well written. The juxtaposition between emotional and intellectual development is incredible to see and how Charlie evolves throughout the book and grapples with his problems is fascinating to read
I READ THIS A FEW YEARS AGO BACK IN 7TH GRADE. Damn never thought I would hear about it again. Definitely can apply some of these concepts to that book
Absolutely AMAZING book! One aspect to it I also love is how you see the progression of his intelligence in how his grammar and sentence structure changes. You’ve inspired me so excuse me while I go read it for the probably 7th time 😂
That book was on my to read list when I was exploring science fiction novels years ago, but I never got around to reading it. I think now I will.
I read this book. I loved it and I recommend it to all my friends who are interested in reading.
The first time I started experiencing level 8, I was filled with this extreme sense of purposelessness and I didn't even want to exist anymore. The reason was my mind still trying to save itself by seeking intent and purpose in being pure awareness (whose very nature is simply witnessing). This created a clash between my mind and my awareness which gave me a hard kick on my chest and I was falling in a limbo. My whole life exploded and I was numb for a while. Now I have realized that it is the nature of mind to have intent and it is the nature of awareness to not have intent. I live in my body and mind, so sure I will feel intent, feelings, ego, etc. But is it really that significant? Not at all because that's just the nature of these entities. Its like do we feel overwhelmed or fascinated by the fact that wood is hard? No, its just the nature of wood to be hard, just like that anything related to my awareness OR my mind is as significant as wood being hard (This sounds very unbelievable from the perspective of other levels but its liberating). So what should I do? NOTHING! What can I do? ANYTHING! Do I want to do anything? Yes, the mind always wants to do anything. Will it matter in the grand picture? There is no grand picture. I guess I'll just eat ice cream then. And today whenever I eat ice cream Its like a dream because whatever I do in this dream will vanish the moment I cease to exist. Life is but a dream.
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This video is awesome. It made me think back specifically to all the times people criticized me for explaining my thoughts on different matters (while going through these levels without realizing). The most common response I got was “not everything is that deep/not everything has meaning”. I think some people do not like to venture into the upper levels of thinking because it scares them
i think i just reached level 4. spent 22 years of my life so deep into my own thoughts that i never really fully understood that other people also go through things. lost friends because i wasn’t emotionally supportive enough. now i have a boyfriend and this year i learned that it really isn’t everything about me. i’m able to understand him and feel what he feels
Good for you. I still struggle to understand others. But nothing enough practice can't fix
Reading this just made me happy for you, wow :)
@@SolB808 My advice, Understand yourself first because when you understand yourself, you see yourself in everyone. Meditation #1
@@joeyoung7338 I do meditate though I started a month ago. Yeah, I should try to understand myself objectively. It is crazy how I never do that. I will be starting a blog as it turns out writing down stuff actually helps reveal my psyche. Thanks random stranger on the internet
in the same boat. im 21 but this past year being in a relationship and deeply understanding another person has helped me so much in understanding myself
Man, you are really in your creative flow right now. Looking forward to the long version.
I actually find the low budget production refreshing, differentiates you from all the people teaching stuff online.
As a dude with high functioning autism this is very interesting. I end up using mostly levels 7, 8, and occasionally 9 throughout almost every day of my life while accidentally neglecting the lower levels (often forget why I do things, forget to put myself into one specific persons shoes rather than think of an overall perspective, ect) and I only now have a way to understand why that is. Thank you for explaining this in such detail and allowing me to realize I should begin to use those lower levels a little more.
That’s very interesting!! That seems to make a lot of sense to me, aweosme
i was just thinking that exact same thing! i'm also autistic and when he got to level 8 i thought wait, doesn't everybody think like this the majority of the time? and then i realized i don't use the lower levels almost at all and that's probably why my brain feels so busy all the time lmao
Same
Wow I didn't realize that until now, that's very interesting
same
I freaking love everything about this. I’m a psych major and this is pure golddd!! New sub! 👏
4:21 This is the same issue with 'therapy' and I bumped up against this problem just a few weeks ago. See, i have an issue with wiping off counters. There's just been this lifelong block with this one thing. I'll do dishes, scrub out the fridge and oven, wipe off the cabinet fronts, sweep the floor... then walk out of the room without wiping the counters off. I actually clean MORE in an effort to avoid wiping off the stupid counters. I hate myself for this problem.
Why do I do it? Goes back to my childhood. Both training and resentments. I fully understand the why. I know where the complex evolved from and how it affected me.
Last week I was talking to my husband and the topic was relevant so I said all that and we finished the conversation and it was done. But later it bugged me.
I kept thinking, so now what? I know this is an issue. I know why I have the issue. I understand all the ins and outs and history and psychology of the issue. But I'm a freaking grandmother for the love of gawd. What the hell am I going to DO about it?
There comes a point where the navel-gazing has to end. You've explored every crevasse here's no more lint to be found in the little hole. You just have to choose to grow up and actually change the behavior.
So I shifted my feelings of resentment from my parent and from my childhood imprinting and made myself resent ME. I now resent that part of me that allowed this BS to carry on for so damn long.
And my counters have never been so clean. See, I can't change the parent. I can't change the past. But I can change what I don't like about myself. I am the one factor in the universe that I have control over, so when I can shift my mindset to "I AM THE PROBLEM" now I have the power to fix it. It's always a sweet rush when that shift happens because I know I'm finally able to move forward.
Us navel-gazers have to realize that insight isn't helpful unless we apply it. My husband is the least navel-gazing person on planet earth, but when he finds some aspect of himself, he just changes it. There is no navel-gazing. "I don't like that I've been drinking as much as I have. I will no longer drink." "I'm suffering because I go to bed too late. From now on, I have a bed time." And then he *actually does the thing... FOREVER.* He truly is a god among men and I respect him so much.
The fact is, why doesn't matter. The only way to improve our lives to to practice radical, personal responsibility and just do the thing.
It's a hell of a lot faster and more effective than the brain stuff.
But I will admit, it's much less fun.
Beautifully said. Thank you for taking the time to articulate something that I am sure so many other people struggle with and can relate to.
That's why the best self-help advice is to "just do it." If you experience a negative feeling, then DO something about it, and see if you feel better. That's it.
I don't think I've ever benefitted from level 6 - level 7 consciousness. It's like trying to solve for 2 + 2 with a quantum computer. It just overcomplicates things and it becomes mental gymnastics so I can procrastinate taking action.
That was really a great read.
You write well and entertainingly. That's pretty rare. It's nearly non-existent in the younger generations.
I've been known to do a bit of navel-gazing, myself... But I do try to act on the things I learn from my excessive pondering of nonsense. (I find that writing things down when I think of something new helps make it useful.)
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Best comment I've read in a long long time. Once the thinking is done, the only solution is to move forward. Would be nice if there was a way to streamline the process and act faster, but maybe it comes with practice.
I'm very pleasantly surprised by this. I think if you continue focusing on this level of quality in what you do, you will have a very bright future and great deal to give to other people.
My man is a true philosopher, it's like having a true friend.
I’ve noticed that going through therapy has increased my awareness substantially. Because I struggle with CPTSD, it’s crucial for me to be at higher levels of thinking because without it, it would be incredibly challenging to remain functional without my triggers taking over my life. I use level 8 and 9 to rewire my behavioural patterns and patterns of thinking. I also find that being dissociated feels a lot like how you explained level 9, except I’m not aware of level 1.
I think that things like meditation, therapy, and some esoteric ideologies encourage the use of higher levels of thinking and perception because it overall can give you a lot more control over who you are and why you act the way you do. Of course, there is no such thing as full control, but becoming aware of your behaviours and feelings and where they come from can be incredibly liberating. At least, that’s how it’s felt for me
Absolutely agree 100%
Therapy. No choice but to go up the levels. However, I feel like it can be a burden when trying to connect with my community.
OMG I was wondering if I'd find a comment like this! Especially with CPTSD I 100% agree! The whole time watching the video I was like... oh this is like everything I've learned in therapy 😯 It's kind of nice to be able to be in that 7th/8th stage looking back at myself and being aware in the moment about how I'm reacting to things, especially when they're things that would normally trigger me in the past. Don't know if I would ever want to be in that 9th level all the time - I find comfort in that 7/8 range of daily functioning, because even that can be a lot to deal with daily.
Also, interesting point about the dissociation. I've experienced derealization and would describe that as being at level 9, but all at the same time being suspended/at that point wondering if all the levels are even real or not
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Would level 10 be a complete separation/disassociation from all the levels? Are there infinite levels??? lol we need more answers
@@MomfirsttodayI feel this. when you reach a certain level of awareness within oneself, it’s almost as if you can see through others and assess the levels they are at and the levels they fluctuate between. But they are unable to do the same for you because of the phrase “people can only meet you as deeply as they’ve met themselves”. It can feel isolating to be so aware of the inner mechanisms of your own mind and thus be aware of the inner mechanisms of the minds of others before they are able to even pick up on it. It can also come off as if you are pompous or self righteous in a way when you do try to connect with others
@@Karma_return777I’ve felt this way as well. It’s so easy to see through everyone else once you get comfortable at higher levels of thinking.
My friends often ask me what I think about them and it’s almost like I’m doing a magic trick for them because I would be able to see things they’ve never seen about themselves.
It’s weird and isolating. But I’ve always kind of felt that way due to my neurodivergence lol
Glad to find out how simple yet complex the day to day mind can be! Although I will say I hope many more come across this video! It’s a great way to open the mind to just how much more you can see the world, and yourself. Through all of this self understanding it can truly help not only ourselves, but the world we live in.
This video made me realize among many other things why meditation is so important (even though some part of yourself doesnt want to do it). Meditating is literally seeing your thoughts as an observer, not your own, and let them be; this can be compounded multiple times (into multiple levels as you explain).
So meditating is really a power tool to train looking at things from more far away as you get better at it.
Obviously you would need to accompany this with just living your life to collect experiences, so then you can meditate about them and then realize this birds-eye view. I'm writing this as I reason it but this video of you explaining going up through the levels really screams the word meditation to me. It made me realise that I absolutely need to preactice it more, thank you
Willful meditation is key. Your subconscious feedback is strongest when you are cold, hungry or distracted. If you can still your mind while your body is over-reacting, you begin to develop mental fortitude and mind-body synchronicity.
I resent comparing mediation to something like a tool. A tool performs a function to effect an outcome. Usually. Meditation can take u far beyond outcomes 💥✌️🥰🍂🌞
is there a resource you suggest to get started?
That’s what I thought as I watched this
Yeah exactly, the last levels of thinking that were described in this video are relatable to certain experiences and concepts involving meditation.
This is one of the most unique channels I’ve seen describing the processes of the human mind when it comes to relationship. I think that the drawings make it fun and easier to process the information. This channel will get to 1 million subscribers!
your videos are so mentally stimulating. you explain complex subjects that are also inherently easy to grasp, and you explain them with really simple words forming remarkably difficult phrases to follow because of the repetition of those simple words such as « this/that », « her/him » etc. i love it so much.
WOW this video is amazing. Believe it or not, I’m living daily as a level 8 and I feel so much understanding for so many different levels of my life from watching it
It's a very funny feeling to listen to a man you've never met perfectly explain your thinking patterns to you in a way that is way more organised than you ever thought they could be. It really feels like a stranger just walked up to me and already had me figured out
That’s crazy. Level 9 is really trippy and I don’t think it could be sustained for “living” and even in the example you gave at the end of your own thoughts of your drawings (which are amazing, thank you), it seemed that the awareness was processed in gaps of time and not a state of prolonged period of time.
THANK YOU for explaining this, I was literally trying to find this. Please make more and I’ll practice to get into higher levels.
Level 9 is actually really useful for peaceful interpersonal activity. The transparency that it creates of "gaps" in the emergence of conscious apprehension of reality helps you sort of... place something in front of people that makes them react, like "what the hell did you just say? why have I never thought of it that way?" and I BELIEVE (don't quote me) that this is why they call it the "ironist." Because you are "ironically" giving people the opposite of what they need to force them to solve their own problem from the inside and make them fill in that gap.
But Doctor,,, I *am* Barbarosa.
@@hoe_mathdamn, this guy ik that's like a decade older than me is like that
Death is the key to life; when one survives murder things become clear.
unban hypermiling from discor i dont know why baned , happened just now@@hoe_math
I found level 10. It’s when you’ve spent so much time in levels 7-9 that you straight up make a conscious decision to revert back to levels 1 & 2 because you realize there’s no point in continuing to abstract things further. You realize that you are your own autonomous system and you decide to just sit back, let it go, and let your consciousness do it’s own natural thing without questioning it’s/your motives constantly.
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@@BlazeIsaf I was just thinking a similar thing when I scrolled and read this. I realize my mind is often so caught up how/ why/what/ and the implications of it i often struggle to live in the moment. I realize there was a sort of clarity of simplicity when I was young, that I was hyper aware of now. I currently have to struggle to revert by brain back to this state.
This is the cycle of what people call "God." It really amazes me that people don't ponder religion further than heaven / god / unity. It's an eternal suffering of being isolated, so you must break yourself apart so that you can distract your own self to connect with other parts of yourself, other people, so that you can all hope to get back to unity and back to oneness, so that you can.... DO WHAT?!? DO IT all over again? That's what some religions say. Reincarnation. Ok great, then what, repeat that infinitum? That's the "best" answer the "best" religions have. An endless cycle, to become present, to transcend being into oneness again. and again. forever.
Well to me, that's the definition of insanity, and I know that it's actually not the real definition, but to do the same thing over and over and NOT EXPECT a different result is INSANE.
This is the part of the analyzing that doesn't make sense to me. If this is the reason for being, then that's it? Then I'm checking out. If it's not, then the answer cannot be unity and oneness, it actually has to be the opposite. It has to be entropy and chaos, why? Because that creates more things. More things lead to more awareness. Leads to more actions, thoughts, multiverses of being. So if we actually found out that uniting was the wrong thing to aim for... we've been doing it wrong this whole time.
Maybe, we're actually supposed to go into chaos and entropy. Embrace the broken, for it allows us so much more to analyze. Rather than being in the moment and being united with nothing actually going on....
Just some thoughts. Sorry it was on your random funny comment, Good shit for you tho!
It hurt itself in its confusion
this is like my fourth time watching this video because it’s so interesting, well put together, and just to fully capture everything being said… with that when is the advanced version coming? please
I grew up during the 60s and 70s. Level 6 was going crazy then. Your evaluation is correct, just because a person has embarked on the journey of higher level thinking, doesn't mean it's better. Those in level 6 then, made the mistake of the cliché, throwing out the baby with the bathwater. They didn't take the time to evaluate why things were, and properly assess what would happen if it was changed, replaced, or just thrown out. They also forgot that ideas have consequences.
And eventually when they got out of level 6, they often went back to level 3 or 4 jobwise ;)
This sounds so relatable. I didn’t grow up back then, believe it or not I’m actually a zoomer. I’ve always had my questions about my generation writing of morals they deemed to be outdated. As if they refuse to look at what these morals were put into place for to protect. I understand that times are changing, but I always felt like time is not the only thing in the equation and that human tendency/nature and it’s consequences also have to be taken into account.
@@uzi11111Don’t you understand why the theory failed in the 70s ? There is no level 7, it’s speculative. And somehow everyone in the comments conceives his present self at level 6. Don’t you see the problem ?
Too much level 6 can be even more dangerous than too much level 4
@@PUREBLACKWORLDTENDENCY I'd say, go crazy - not literally, but try something unconventional. Attempt to construct a world you'd never expect or engage in something enjoyable just once where you had left all matters of consequences completely dealt with. Once you reach a point where you can observe virtually everything at least once, you can begin to shape reality itself. I believe that there's an infinite amount to acknowledge, but the categories are not. Even if you opt to notice the unity in everything or take a more practical approach, you'll easily adapt to a harmonious lifestyle. The reason the 6th level is so troublesome is because it ignores most aspects of one's perceptions. Every level of thought can be reformed into the values of any of the other ones, except the 6th. It is a bit stuck in the physical aspect of itself. (I was going to post this to the OP, but something happened, I guess. My apologies good sir.)
I'm absolutely Flabbergasted. Just yesterday I was thinking about exactly this topic. I was linking numbers like these "levels"to lifestyles and personalities. I didn't say anything and never even thought this was a thing. Just thought about it. Here I am totally getting it. Thank you for sharing ❤😅
It's crazy to me to hear it articulated this way thank you, I've been trying to explain this exact concept using what I called epiphanies of consciousness instead of levels for years. When i was about five or six I had the realisation whist on a family road trip that every house we went by has a family who live thier lives like we did and from then on I turned into more of an observer of life but I digress. Interesting and concise thanks for your work
I’ve watched all your videos (I think) and this is my favourite one. I think I’ll end up rewatching this video many times. Thank you for making this.
your point about people who can get to an 8 don't stay there long. Literally gave me chills. I can think back to three very precise moments in the past year where I felt myself wiring my left and right brain together. Thank you so much for this video gave me something else to think about 🥰
Thinking at level 8 only happens to me when very tired and somewhat stressed in a quite environment. And it's exhausting. You can't really exercise this high level thinking on your feet, takes to long to deeply analyse your thoughts just to answer the question "how are you". I tend to delegate some of the process as part of a conversation or with a paper if I need to deeply analyse something.
Can't find my way out @@mishael1339
you CAN stabilize these levels
@@hoe_math by stabalise you mean that one would have control of when one accesses said level right? Because not being able to shut off the higher levels isn't good since it can get you stuck in ever increasing layers of abstraction
Hell yes. So cool to hear people talking about the phenomenological aspects of our functioning!!! This entire channel is giving me a braingasm.
I live at a solid 7&8. I can’t even begin to explain the depth of my baseline anxiety. I am envious of people who think less deeply about things. My brain is always working over time, picking life apart to what feels like the atoms, trying to understand my human experience. Grappling with reality. To just go through life, satisfying simple needs, not thinking about these things seems fabulous.
think less, do more.
You might just have too much free time
Level 7/8 and actually SEEING myself change
LMAO 🤣🤣🤣 as someone who also is at a solid 7&8, I can vouch; it's not the fact that there is "too much" time on OP's hands, it's the fact that me and OP have learned what reality is and we've been trying to pick apart everyone and everything cause we don't understand how stooopid people can be and how they can't see past themselves 😂😅🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 We could be in college or have full time jobs and kids at home, we would still be doing this 😂😂😂😂😅🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@BabyKiwiBullet you’re not alone. 👊🏼
This is going in my top 10 UA-cam videos - because of the scribbles. 26 minutes felt like 5 with a whole lifetime worth of processing frameworks. Thanks hoe_math for your contribution to humanity ❤
Anime inner monologue = lvl 8
The scribbles sell it to me tbh
You achieve lvl 9 when you realize that you are not the thoughts in your head, you're the listener. Level 7 is your innate emotional response to the moment that you're experiencing, level 8 is your logical reasoning behind that emotional response (taking into account your past history and how different perceptions of said moment could create different responses) . The thing about level 8 is that you can still mentally trap yourself into a downward spiral of negative and chaotic perceptions of reality; level 9 is the voice of intuition and care, the soul or the divine body - your connection to the fundamental building blocks of reality - when you tap into level 9 you become a sort of radio for the "God consciousness" - this is where a complete sense of peace and comfortability can be found in your own mind - a non-judgemental, all-loving, joyful, and wise version of yourself.