My pride and Joy has been saved! - I didn't want to get rid of my Yamaha 1200cc 1995 and done some research and came across ONE Video on UA-cam, How to Beat the ULEZ for BIKERS,... I am so grateful to this guy who put the time and effort to make this video , for everyone, Respect! - I just can't thank you enough, passed the ULEZ yesterday *** Riverbank Motorcycles do succeed in finding a means of getting round rules, regulations, for Bikers, Where there's a will there's a way! ****** 100% SATISFIED ******
Thats great news, can I ask you of you re tuned the bike yourself or doubled up the air filter to pass? I'm wondering if you passed first run or if they re tuned your carbs and charged you for a second run? Thanks
Thats great new I'm glad it's helpful. So what I've learnt is that if you double up your air filter you can get most bikes through on the first run. It only has to be done once and once only and the bike will be ulez compliant forever including if you change the keeper. Mot never does emissions so nothing to do with it. Thanks DG
I own a gilera runner sp 180 2 stroke 2001 y reg , I live bang in the middle of central London . I watched this video and thought why not take it down to Riverside ulez test centre and it past its ulez test straight away £175 im exempt for life = wicked result . Thanks for posting the video mate was very helpful
Hi Jay, yes funny enough the gileras were running extremely clean back then without even knowing it. Yet somehow they called 2 strokes dirty and stopped them. Thats great news though mate. I'm glad it passed. I loved my 2 stroke 180 so if your ever passing Islington on yours do feel free to drop into the garage. Charlie
@@motorcyclerescuer I agree mate I honestly don't know why they stopped making them! They are the best 2 stroke scooter ever made ! Im only down the road mate I might just pass through one day maybe I'll see you soon 👍🏻 all the best pal
If it passes with no tweaks then it runs like normal. But you really need to richen the mixture to be more likely to pass. Personally I would lift the main needle by 1 which richens the top end and richen the air fuel screw aswell. If you pass the test then lean it out again once back.
Thanks for the video. It motivated me to put my VFR800 2001 through the test. It failed the first run but they fitted a small catalytic converter and now it is exempt from the charge and not so polluting.
Thats great news. In my opinion they shouldn't charge for the second run if they do the tuning work and it's on the same day. The second run cost £100 I believe. However at least we get to keep our bikes on the road forever. Thanks for sharing.
I agree it's worth getting older bikes through the test. I didn't want to get rid of my Kawasaki 750 Zephyr (15k miles) so dropped in to Riverside. It failed 1st time, it has 4-1 exhaust with slip on silencer, they fitted a Cat and it passed with flying colours.. Happy days, get to keep my bike and no more NOx tests..
It's definitely worth doing however I think riverbank should he better at doing it. They shouldn't charge a penny for the second run if its them doing the work and it's the same day, this way most people will get through for around £230 rather then over £300. Also people need to understand that if they get the bike richer I.e double the air filter then they are likely to pass on the first run. Thanks for watching and please subscribe
Due to the Agg i have of getting out i had my bike set up and test pass .It was £325 but i cant get back to the testing garage easy so decided to let them set it up and test pass it. Mind you the Bike is worth thousands so its a job well done.
Another company has just set up near Enfield, if you don't pass the first Dyno they don't charge for it. What I don't like about riverbank is that they charge you for the first Dyno, then do the work and charge for that, then charge again for the Dyno. It's unnecessary charging twice for the Dyno especially when they do the work and it's the same day. So I'll use the new company from now on if needed. But at least your bike is good to go now which is great John. This ulez stuff is shocking at the moment.
Kawasaki only goes back to 2003. I tried to get cert of conformity , for my 2001 Kawasaki, from Kawasaki, U.K.,and told it was too old, they only started cert of conformity, in 03. But, I’m sure it complies I’m going to try it anyway. It’s too good to get rid of. I’m going to fit a cat converter. I got one that fits inside the exhaust box, I bought a racing can, to ensure it has the space, so, I’ll let you know.
Yes your right. I tried to get one for a 2001 er5 and they didn't have it. If I was you I would richen the bike a little. You can restrict some airflow or lift the carb needles and richen the air/fuel screws. Then if it passes put it back to original settings. Unless that cat you have is a good high quality genuine one it won't do much.
Great stuff. Currently rebuilding an RF900 which I have invested a lot of time and money in so will be taking it to Riverbank next year for the necessary work 👍
Sounds great. Make sure you richen it up to pass. Normally lifting the needles by 1 notch and making the air/fuel richer will get it through on the first run.
Ok, when I do mine I want to tune the bike to get it through the test but then tune it again for best performance after. I wonder if a cat will effect performance? Either way it sounds like a great project your doing.
Thanks Nat. I enjoyed filming it to see the process but didn't enjoy paying £350 to get my bike through. Saying that it's still cheaper then £15 a day.
Hi, I've done it a few times now. It can be as expensive as £550 but can still save people money. If your lucky you restrict your air filter a touch and its more likely to pass. Rich passes, lean fails
This video even more relevant with that nasty man planning to extend the ulez yet again in August 2023 ! If only there was a company doing the same to save my car too . 👍👍👍😎
Thats a good point about cars, I think I read something recently about that coming but am unsure. Bikers had to do a lot of fighting to get the right to re tune to meet emissions but no reason why cars can't be tested and tuned to pass
I've just uploaded my bike's details to TFL, v5 and C.O.C. showing 0.08 NOx, obtained from Triumph. 24 hours later, TFL has updated the website to show my 2005 Daytona 955i can go into ULEZ for free. As I understand it high NOx can be caused by lean mixtures, So I'd be careful about leaning off the carburation before testing.
Great video and still relevant now in 2021. I prefer the older carb bikes too but I don’t ride into London often enough to warrant the charge. They are providing a much needed service here but in my opinion the price is disproportionate. Plus as it’s the only place you can have bikes tested that’s affiliated with tfl there is no competition to regulate prices.
Yes I agree fully. The ulez extends in October to the whole of London which is a right pain. All they have to do is not charge for the second run if the work is done on the same day. This will save people £100 and the average will be more like £250 to pass. Also I don't like that they tell people on the phone that their bikes are likely to pass when that's just not true as most fail first run. Thanks David. Thanks for watching and please subscribe
Certificate of conformity after 2004 is available, said Kawasaki dealer, for my 2001 zx6r j1. they don't have any NOx readings to declare to me. how is your bike riding after the carb tune any difference, i am booking my bike with them also.
It rode terribly. I had to re tune my carbs the day after. I would suggest you restrict some of your airflow before going to richen your mixture throughout. You may scrape a pass then. Once your back home remove the air restriction. I tapped of some of my mates airfilter to restrict air flow a touch and it passed on the first run
Have you booked the test? The problem is that it's unlikely to pass on the first run even though they tell you that most bikes pass. They say that to get you through the door. To get it passed you would have to either re tune your carbs by lifting the needles by 1 clip and richening the air/fuel screws or restrict air flow slightly at the air box. This can be done by doubling up the filter or taping some of the filter off etc. It's likely to pass if either of these things are done however if not then they would want to re tune it themselves and run the second test at the same price. So you would be looking at £175 first test, around £60 re tune, and another £175 re test in the same day.
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The problem with them is that they tell everyone that your bike will probably pass. You then pay £170 to get it tested and it fails, they then offer to tweak the bike through which costs around £50 and they then charge you £100 for the second emissions test. So you end up paying £330. Do a test for me if you get the time. Pick a random bike I.e 1996 yanaha thundercat, call them and ask if it will pass. They will tell you it probably will without even seeing the bike. The key to passing is rich rich rich, double up the air filter to richen up the mixture and your likely to pass first run. Thanks for watching and please subscribe
Yes exactly. So it's £175 times 2 plus £150 So average carb bike will cost £500 But the Enfield place will do it for at least £175 less probably more like £225 less
The oil won't make much difference. You want to make your bike run rich. So pulling the carb needles up 1 click will help. The other thing you can try is restricting your airflow a little, by doubling up the filter or similar.
No never again. You can tune it as much as you want now or even throw a 1200cc engine in. The numberplate is OK now in the ultra low emissions zone. What do you think was £300 worth it? It was £350 but that's cause the diaphragms were gone. So would cost others around £300
Yes it was me and yes they are much more enjoyable now. £300 does seem expensive, I suppose the question is, can it be recovered in a higher selling price? Time will tell.
@@motorcyclejunkie7564 no I don't think it can. I sold it today for £1100 and technically it owed me £1150. However I got to use it for 6 months and had fun. I'm considering putting the thunderace through however I don't mind paying the £175 if it passes but don't want to pay £350 again.
I believe the gilera engine from that time ran fairly clean. Your first port of call would be to email gilera and ask for a certificate of conformity for your bike. You will need to give them your full address and vin number. If they say they have a certificate for your bike then ask them to send it if the nox levels are lower then 0.15. the certificate may cost up to £120 but would be the cheapest option to get ulez free
Honestly I would go for a Piaggio fly 125cc between 2007 and 2012. Plenty parts available, great bikes, I've seen many do 60.000 miles and more. Plus at 2007 it will be ulez compliant. They are also a touch boring looking so people tend to leave them alone.
It will either pass first go for £175 or will need adjusting and a second test which will take you closer to £350. For best chance of passing first run I suggest you double your air filter which will restrict the air and richen the bike. This will lower the nox levels and make it more likely to pass. Hope this helps.
@@orlandostead8703 be careful with their response as they tend to tell everyone that it should pass. You then pay the £175 and it fails and you end up left with having to pay the rest. I strongly recommend you double up your air filter to richen the mixture which will give you a better chance of passing first run. Thanks
It’s a bloody rip off. Most carbed bikes pass this TFL test. Big old 1984 bmw R80rt passed easy etc! Single vehicle approval though so tfl is taking the piss. Just a blanket tax
Absolutely agree although mine was 3 times the limit lol. The £350 is alot of money however if people think their bikes will pass then its £175, and these guys do all the paper work and it goes straight onto the tfl system. If people contact their manufacturer for a certificate of conformity then this cost around £75 anyway plus you wait weeks and you then have to wait weeks for tfl to agree that its low emission. Motorcycles should never have been part of this system as we're already taking up less room, running fairly clean and take up less parking spaces.
@@motorcyclerescuer I'm planning the same with a BMWk1100rs 1992! Fingers crossed I can get it through! Although BMW wouldn't provide any emission figures
I have a classic bike, which is registered 1974 and classed as a Historic vehicle as shown inside the V5 and yet if I put the reg in TFL's (ULEZ) 'Check my Vehicle' finder it still states I would have to pay the charge which I know is Complete BS and the law is 100% on my side, why should go through the hassle of telling them they are wrong! it's up to them to get it right FFS.
Hi Danny, click on this link and find the exception part. Take a pic of your logbook including the reg, vin and part that says historic. Upload the pic to the file and apply for exception. Check your reg 2 or 3 days later and it should then be on the system.. Hope this helps. Let me know if you need any more advice.
@@motorcyclerescuer Why can't you do same with my 2001 bike .V5 says NOx ( g/km) I asked about this and was told you still have to get it set up and tested.
@@John-ob7dh yes exactly. You can email your bike manufacturer and ask if they carry a certificate of conformity for your bike. You can also ask if your bike nox levels are lower then 0.15. if the answer is yes to both of these then you will be better of buying the certificate which normally cost around £120. You can use this certificate to clear your bike on all low emissions zone
Before you do your first run take your air filter out and double it up. This will restrict the air and richen the mixture lowering your nox levels. If your lucky all 3 will pass on the first run at £175 each . If your unlucky they will all need tweaking and a second run at £350 each.
@@motorcyclerescuer I think I'm going to change the oil and spark plugs on them and a carb clean first but I will do the air filter thing aswell mate thank you I'm hoping it don't cost too much but it as to be done don't it mate
Well yes and no really. Because the bike was running at the 0.015 nox levels in the end and will continue to run at these levels, so if anyone is worried about their carbon footprint then this is a step they could take. Personally I would undo the work they did as I believe it slightly lowered the power on the bottom end.
Just avoid London it’s the worse city for tax on motorists and the public transport is dreadful if you don’t live there just avoid it if you do live there move out you will save a fortune show these people you refuse to be a cash cow
@@motorcyclerescuer but you do realise this is just the start they will keep changing the goal posts to catch us out they are broke and desperate for money so they pounce on us the cash cows 🐄
@@jeffvaljean6030 I completely agree. I'm sick of all these silly changes that are designed to catch us out on camera. It's got ridiculous in London now. You could be driving down a road and get a ticket a week later saying you wasn't allowed. Yet the signage is tiny.
@@motorcyclerescuer mate I drive car and bike and live in lewisham they sent me a questionnaire should motorbikes be charged for parking permits now you no they are getting desperate I bet these charges go up next year and what amazes me is the worse polluters are the mums and dads with the school runs and yet they scream out about the children being affected by pollution its hypocrisy at its worse
My pride and Joy has been saved! - I didn't want to get rid of my Yamaha 1200cc 1995 and done some research and came across ONE Video on UA-cam, How to Beat the ULEZ for BIKERS,... I am so grateful to this guy who put the time and effort to make this video , for everyone, Respect! - I just can't thank you enough,
passed the ULEZ yesterday *** Riverbank Motorcycles do succeed in finding a means of getting round rules, regulations, for Bikers,
Where there's a will there's a way! ****** 100% SATISFIED ******
Thats great news, can I ask you of you re tuned the bike yourself or doubled up the air filter to pass? I'm wondering if you passed first run or if they re tuned your carbs and charged you for a second run?
Thanks
This is the video I’ve been looking for! Absolutely bang on video and clear as hell! Top
Does this need to be done yearly or every MOT or just once?
Thats great new I'm glad it's helpful. So what I've learnt is that if you double up your air filter you can get most bikes through on the first run.
It only has to be done once and once only and the bike will be ulez compliant forever including if you change the keeper.
Mot never does emissions so nothing to do with it.
Thanks DG
I own a gilera runner sp 180 2 stroke 2001 y reg , I live bang in the middle of central London . I watched this video and thought why not take it down to Riverside ulez test centre and it past its ulez test straight away £175 im exempt for life = wicked result . Thanks for posting the video mate was very helpful
Hi Jay, yes funny enough the gileras were running extremely clean back then without even knowing it. Yet somehow they called 2 strokes dirty and stopped them.
Thats great news though mate. I'm glad it passed. I loved my 2 stroke 180 so if your ever passing Islington on yours do feel free to drop into the garage.
Charlie
@@motorcyclerescuer I agree mate I honestly don't know why they stopped making them! They are the best 2 stroke scooter ever made ! Im only down the road mate I might just pass through one day maybe I'll see you soon 👍🏻 all the best pal
If it passes with no tweaks then it runs like normal. But you really need to richen the mixture to be more likely to pass.
Personally I would lift the main needle by 1 which richens the top end and richen the air fuel screw aswell.
If you pass the test then lean it out again once back.
Thanks for the video. It motivated me to put my VFR800 2001 through the test. It failed the first run but they fitted a small catalytic converter and now it is exempt from the charge and not so polluting.
Thats great news. In my opinion they shouldn't charge for the second run if they do the tuning work and it's on the same day. The second run cost £100 I believe. However at least we get to keep our bikes on the road forever.
Thanks for sharing.
@antagonistalion can you share the catalitic converter you used?
I agree it's worth getting older bikes through the test. I didn't want to get rid of my Kawasaki 750 Zephyr (15k miles) so dropped in to Riverside. It failed 1st time, it has 4-1 exhaust with slip on silencer, they fitted a Cat and it passed with flying colours.. Happy days, get to keep my bike and no more NOx tests..
It's definitely worth doing however I think riverbank should he better at doing it. They shouldn't charge a penny for the second run if its them doing the work and it's the same day, this way most people will get through for around £230 rather then over £300.
Also people need to understand that if they get the bike richer I.e double the air filter then they are likely to pass on the first run.
Thanks for watching and please subscribe
Due to the Agg i have of getting out i had my bike set up and test pass .It was £325 but i cant get back to the testing garage easy so decided to let them set it up and test pass it.
Mind you the Bike is worth thousands so its a job well done.
Another company has just set up near Enfield, if you don't pass the first Dyno they don't charge for it. What I don't like about riverbank is that they charge you for the first Dyno, then do the work and charge for that, then charge again for the Dyno. It's unnecessary charging twice for the Dyno especially when they do the work and it's the same day.
So I'll use the new company from now on if needed.
But at least your bike is good to go now which is great John. This ulez stuff is shocking at the moment.
Kawasaki only goes back to 2003. I tried to get cert of conformity , for my 2001 Kawasaki, from Kawasaki, U.K.,and told it was too old, they only started cert of conformity, in 03. But, I’m sure it complies I’m going to try it anyway. It’s too good to get rid of. I’m going to fit a cat converter. I got one that fits inside the exhaust box, I bought a racing can, to ensure it has the space, so, I’ll let you know.
Yes your right. I tried to get one for a 2001 er5 and they didn't have it.
If I was you I would richen the bike a little. You can restrict some airflow or lift the carb needles and richen the air/fuel screws. Then if it passes put it back to original settings.
Unless that cat you have is a good high quality genuine one it won't do much.
Great stuff. Currently rebuilding an RF900 which I have invested a lot of time and money in so will be taking it to Riverbank next year for the necessary work 👍
Sounds great. Make sure you richen it up to pass. Normally lifting the needles by 1 notch and making the air/fuel richer will get it through on the first run.
@@motorcyclerescuer I've chatted online with someone who's had their RF done. I'm fitting mine with a cat before going to get it tested 👍
Ok, when I do mine I want to tune the bike to get it through the test but then tune it again for best performance after. I wonder if a cat will effect performance?
Either way it sounds like a great project your doing.
THIS WAS A FANTASTIC VID THANKS SO MUCH!
Thanks Nat. I enjoyed filming it to see the process but didn't enjoy paying £350 to get my bike through. Saying that it's still cheaper then £15 a day.
Had been assuming the scrap it and get a new one advice was the only way. Today I found out about Riverbank, and then saw this video .
Hi, I've done it a few times now. It can be as expensive as £550 but can still save people money. If your lucky you restrict your air filter a touch and its more likely to pass. Rich passes, lean fails
This video even more relevant with that nasty man planning to extend the ulez yet again in August 2023 ! If only there was a company doing the same to save my car too . 👍👍👍😎
Thats a good point about cars, I think I read something recently about that coming but am unsure. Bikers had to do a lot of fighting to get the right to re tune to meet emissions but no reason why cars can't be tested and tuned to pass
I've just uploaded my bike's details to TFL, v5 and C.O.C. showing 0.08 NOx, obtained from Triumph. 24 hours later, TFL has updated the website to show my 2005 Daytona 955i can go into ULEZ for free.
As I understand it high NOx can be caused by lean mixtures, So I'd be careful about leaning off the carburation before testing.
It's definitely rich is better mate.
Thanks@@motorcyclerescuer
Great video and still relevant now in 2021. I prefer the older carb bikes too but I don’t ride into London often enough to warrant the charge.
They are providing a much needed service here but in my opinion the price is disproportionate. Plus as it’s the only place you can have bikes tested that’s affiliated with tfl there is no competition to regulate prices.
Yes I agree fully. The ulez extends in October to the whole of London which is a right pain.
All they have to do is not charge for the second run if the work is done on the same day. This will save people £100 and the average will be more like £250 to pass.
Also I don't like that they tell people on the phone that their bikes are likely to pass when that's just not true as most fail first run.
Thanks David.
Thanks for watching and please subscribe
It should bring the road Tax to Nil like some cars...
They are only interested in money. Uts really sad how money greedy our country has become.
Certificate of conformity after 2004 is available, said Kawasaki dealer, for my 2001 zx6r j1. they don't have any NOx readings to declare to me.
how is your bike riding after the carb tune any difference, i am booking my bike with them also.
It rode terribly. I had to re tune my carbs the day after.
I would suggest you restrict some of your airflow before going to richen your mixture throughout. You may scrape a pass then.
Once your back home remove the air restriction.
I tapped of some of my mates airfilter to restrict air flow a touch and it passed on the first run
what about Congestion Charge in central london?
There is no congestion charge for bikes.
I really want to get a tennere 600 but I live in London and if it doesn’t pass the test I’m fucked
Have you booked the test? The problem is that it's unlikely to pass on the first run even though they tell you that most bikes pass. They say that to get you through the door.
To get it passed you would have to either re tune your carbs by lifting the needles by 1 clip and richening the air/fuel screws or restrict air flow slightly at the air box. This can be done by doubling up the filter or taping some of the filter off etc.
It's likely to pass if either of these things are done however if not then they would want to re tune it themselves and run the second test at the same price. So you would be looking at £175 first test, around £60 re tune, and another £175 re test in the same day.
Are there any permanent changes you can make to lower emissions?
Yes you can put catalytic converters into the exhaust. But they are expensive and may effect performance
@@motorcyclerescuer Thanks for the reply, I will do that.
It's a shame that one make/model passing doesn't make ALL other identical make/models automatically compliant.
Yes thats something that was put to TFL, however its a money making scheme fir them.
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The problem with them is that they tell everyone that your bike will probably pass. You then pay £170 to get it tested and it fails, they then offer to tweak the bike through which costs around £50 and they then charge you £100 for the second emissions test. So you end up paying £330.
Do a test for me if you get the time. Pick a random bike I.e 1996 yanaha thundercat, call them and ask if it will pass. They will tell you it probably will without even seeing the bike.
The key to passing is rich rich rich, double up the air filter to richen up the mixture and your likely to pass first run.
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What do you think the chances of my Honda crm 125 1999 2 stroke have of passing
Honestly I'm unsure. To be closer to passing on the first run I would lift the needle and richen the air/fuel screws a touch.
Richer lowers nox levels
Dont forget you say they will tweak your Bike ( they will but its £150 extra )plus another £175 ?for re test.
Yes exactly. So it's £175 times 2 plus £150
So average carb bike will cost £500
But the Enfield place will do it for at least £175 less probably more like £225 less
@@motorcyclerescuer I paid £325 set up and test pass.
Was not going to risk a fail.
Great news . If you have this test done make sure your engine is oil is clean ....new....remove air filter .?
The oil won't make much difference. You want to make your bike run rich. So pulling the carb needles up 1 click will help.
The other thing you can try is restricting your airflow a little, by doubling up the filter or similar.
To be clear, you don't want more air flow to pass this test you want less.
A richer running bike lowers the Nox levels
Will it be tested again every MOT?
No never again. You can tune it as much as you want now or even throw a 1200cc engine in. The numberplate is OK now in the ultra low emissions zone.
What do you think was £300 worth it? It was £350 but that's cause the diaphragms were gone. So would cost others around £300
Carl is it you who asked me to ad more contents into my videos? Ive tried to ad more. Any better?
Yes it was me and yes they are much more enjoyable now. £300 does seem expensive, I suppose the question is, can it be recovered in a higher selling price? Time will tell.
@@motorcyclejunkie7564 no I don't think it can. I sold it today for £1100 and technically it owed me £1150. However I got to use it for 6 months and had fun. I'm considering putting the thunderace through however I don't mind paying the £175 if it passes but don't want to pay £350 again.
Would a 2004 gilera runner 125cc be ulez compliant as I live in London and wanna get one
I believe the gilera engine from that time ran fairly clean. Your first port of call would be to email gilera and ask for a certificate of conformity for your bike. You will need to give them your full address and vin number.
If they say they have a certificate for your bike then ask them to send it if the nox levels are lower then 0.15. the certificate may cost up to £120 but would be the cheapest option to get ulez free
@@motorcyclerescuer ok because I’m tryna get one of these bikes after doing my cbt
Gileras aren't great anymore as you just can't get spare parts. However if that's what you want then of course it's your choice.
@@motorcyclerescuer what’s the best 125cc I can get under 1000
Honestly I would go for a Piaggio fly 125cc between 2007 and 2012. Plenty parts available, great bikes, I've seen many do 60.000 miles and more. Plus at 2007 it will be ulez compliant.
They are also a touch boring looking so people tend to leave them alone.
I've got a vespa px 200 on L plate what about that?
It will either pass first go for £175 or will need adjusting and a second test which will take you closer to £350.
For best chance of passing first run I suggest you double your air filter which will restrict the air and richen the bike. This will lower the nox levels and make it more likely to pass.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for replying, spoke to riverside, told em what bike i had and they didn't see it as a problem.
So thanks again 👍
@@orlandostead8703 be careful with their response as they tend to tell everyone that it should pass. You then pay the £175 and it fails and you end up left with having to pay the rest.
I strongly recommend you double up your air filter to richen the mixture which will give you a better chance of passing first run.
Thanks
It’s a bloody rip off. Most carbed bikes pass this TFL test. Big old 1984 bmw R80rt passed easy etc! Single vehicle approval though so tfl is taking the piss. Just a blanket tax
Absolutely agree although mine was 3 times the limit lol.
The £350 is alot of money however if people think their bikes will pass then its £175, and these guys do all the paper work and it goes straight onto the tfl system.
If people contact their manufacturer for a certificate of conformity then this cost around £75 anyway plus you wait weeks and you then have to wait weeks for tfl to agree that its low emission.
Motorcycles should never have been part of this system as we're already taking up less room, running fairly clean and take up less parking spaces.
@@motorcyclerescuer I'm planning the same with a BMWk1100rs 1992! Fingers crossed I can get it through! Although BMW wouldn't provide any emission figures
I have a classic bike, which is registered 1974 and classed as a Historic vehicle as shown inside the V5 and yet if I put the reg in TFL's (ULEZ) 'Check my Vehicle' finder it still states I would have to pay the charge which I know is Complete BS and the law is 100% on my side, why should go through the hassle of telling them they are wrong! it's up to them to get it right FFS.
Hi Danny, click on this link and find the exception part. Take a pic of your logbook including the reg, vin and part that says historic. Upload the pic to the file and apply for exception. Check your reg 2 or 3 days later and it should then be on the system..
Hope this helps.
Let me know if you need any more advice.
@@motorcyclerescuer Why can't you do same with my 2001 bike .V5 says NOx ( g/km)
I asked about this and was told you still have to get it set up and tested.
Does the v5 tell you the nox levels?
@@motorcyclerescuer No .Good point .
So if I can get that from manufacturer does that help .?
@@John-ob7dh yes exactly. You can email your bike manufacturer and ask if they carry a certificate of conformity for your bike. You can also ask if your bike nox levels are lower then 0.15. if the answer is yes to both of these then you will be better of buying the certificate which normally cost around £120.
You can use this certificate to clear your bike on all low emissions zone
I have this coming by me in October 25 I think it was my bikes are from 2011 and 2007 and 2003 not looking forward to it mate
Before you do your first run take your air filter out and double it up. This will restrict the air and richen the mixture lowering your nox levels. If your lucky all 3 will pass on the first run at £175 each .
If your unlucky they will all need tweaking and a second run at £350 each.
@@motorcyclerescuer I think I'm going to change the oil and spark plugs on them and a carb clean first but I will do the air filter thing aswell mate thank you I'm hoping it don't cost too much but it as to be done don't it mate
Yes the service is fine. Hopefully it all works out for you James.
300 to blag the system basically
Well yes and no really. Because the bike was running at the 0.015 nox levels in the end and will continue to run at these levels, so if anyone is worried about their carbon footprint then this is a step they could take. Personally I would undo the work they did as I believe it slightly lowered the power on the bottom end.
Hi what about cars
I don't think they allow you to do it with cars. You will have to look that up. This is motorcycles only.
Just avoid London it’s the worse city for tax on motorists and the public transport is dreadful if you don’t live there just avoid it if you do live there move out you will save a fortune show these people you refuse to be a cash cow
If only things in life were that easy. I'm afraid it's very hard to avoid London always.
@@motorcyclerescuer but you do realise this is just the start they will keep changing the goal posts to catch us out they are broke and desperate for money so they pounce on us the cash cows 🐄
@@jeffvaljean6030 I completely agree. I'm sick of all these silly changes that are designed to catch us out on camera. It's got ridiculous in London now.
You could be driving down a road and get a ticket a week later saying you wasn't allowed. Yet the signage is tiny.
@@motorcyclerescuer mate I drive car and bike and live in lewisham they sent me a questionnaire should motorbikes be charged for parking permits now you no they are getting desperate I bet these charges go up next year and what amazes me is the worse polluters are the mums and dads with the school runs and yet they scream out about the children being affected by pollution its hypocrisy at its worse
The worse polluters are the planes and boats, yet they agreed Heathrow to have an extension and a 5th runway.