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  • Опубліковано 15 гру 2022
  • What started as a bunch of friends getting together to play WoW Maximum would turn into one of the most well known guild's in WoW history. This is the story of Maximum, the raid lead, the maestro, and 21st man leader of Liquid.
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  • @Tristana.Keauna
    @Tristana.Keauna Рік тому +73

    This was great - love that you touched upon the 'letting people go' part.

  • @Sweloe
    @Sweloe Рік тому +110

    You were a great leader before you realized you were a great leader. Gamble was a toxic guild with some toxic people, but you were always the voice of reason. Always kind to me and helped me improve all the time, and I don't think you even realized it. I am very happy to witness your success. You deserve this more than anyone in the world. -Hotshy

  • @TheTaydak
    @TheTaydak Рік тому +34

    Beautiful person, deserves everything he gets in life and i wish him well for everything he chooses to do. His undercover raid leading is some of the best content i've ever watched and this was brilliant to see behind the curtain, thx for sharing

    • @qlcrane8019
      @qlcrane8019 Рік тому +3

      Beautiful person? He is literally an account buyer that bought an "old and prestigious" account and then weaseled himself into being the "leader" of NA raiding and basically controlling one region completely. Only thing he is good at is getting sponsors for himself. He can't even raid lead properly and I loved his annoyed face in one of the last few tiers when the actual raid leader told Max to shut up because he was calling the wrong things. Also this happened while Max was also funneling every fucking viewer into his personal twitch channel instead of a joined channel or allowing people to stream multiple pov's like other teams did. He is a greedy mascot nothing else

    • @Swad-cf8nc
      @Swad-cf8nc Рік тому +2

      @@qlcrane8019 He also viewbots the WFR and his normal stream fairly heavily.

    • @dyyylllaannn
      @dyyylllaannn Рік тому +1

      @@Swad-cf8nc Damn always a hater 😂😂😂

  • @rezzyn94
    @rezzyn94 Рік тому +158

    Max is the man. Glad to see him get so much respect

    • @rezzyn94
      @rezzyn94 Рік тому

      @@jubbin4849 lmao who hurt you? Post links and facts if you're going to make these accusations. Don't just gossip like a 12 year old. Fuck is wrong with you?

    • @KC-py5vq
      @KC-py5vq Рік тому +3

      @@jubbin4849 sources?

    • @brenttaylor6932
      @brenttaylor6932 Рік тому +3

      @@jubbin4849 find me one community of gamers that have never had a toxic past

    • @carloseduardo-fo1rq
      @carloseduardo-fo1rq Рік тому +4

      @@jubbin4849 the dude never been young, people talk shit when they are teenagers or young adults, that's normal, the only thing that matters is that he changed

    • @dabo150
      @dabo150 Рік тому +2

      @@jubbin4849 delusional.

  • @vi0cs
    @vi0cs Рік тому +9

    Max is the only reason I watch RWF. Just clicked watching this guy. I don't even watch the official channel. I just turn on maxes stream. It's almost like it ignores that he is doing his own stream on how they cover the race.

  • @MrRafting
    @MrRafting Рік тому +128

    Fucking incredible video. Shout out to Fronk for editing this masterpiece

    • @wilmer.weeink
      @wilmer.weeink Рік тому +6

      Fronk is a boss

    • @marton_horvath
      @marton_horvath Рік тому

      with the cringe beginning, then progressing into the "running in the morning to synch with my inner self" shots, this could've been an AI generated linkedin spot. Also, how many times can he tell the story of how he began gaming..?

  • @opyshuichiro8809
    @opyshuichiro8809 4 місяці тому +1

    Bring back Ben, absolute god gamer. And no one better than Max to be a maestro

  • @Hey-Malo
    @Hey-Malo Рік тому

    I play and replay this video such an inspiration

  • @cristisha
    @cristisha Рік тому +23

    This is awesome! Thanks for creating this!

  • @Patron_TheBoss
    @Patron_TheBoss Рік тому +9

    Awesome, hope more superb content is on the way! 👍

  • @nextx_blurreddeath
    @nextx_blurreddeath 7 місяців тому

    i totally agree with max on this one the nostalgia of getting that new peice of gear and wanting more of it and it leads into this never ending cycle of wanting to progress

  • @jaymediaone
    @jaymediaone 7 місяців тому

    Awesome go Liquid

  • @kajouka
    @kajouka Рік тому

    You're amazing Max! Loved watching this!

  • @Izzyduude
    @Izzyduude 6 місяців тому

    It’s true, if the Chinese guild didn’t stream at the end of Legion we wouldn’t see any of the streams to go for WF. Usually, there would have to be 5 guilds who beat a mythic boss would a video be released by a respective guild to see how they beat the boss. Watching streaming in the RWF is awesome!

  • @bLYYYPLAYS
    @bLYYYPLAYS Рік тому +5

    THIS was awesomeee!
    I hope, I will have an Origins episode one day!:)

    • @CreepyPhantom
      @CreepyPhantom Рік тому +3

      you need a racist backstory first

    • @AS-mm9mt
      @AS-mm9mt Рік тому +1

      Yeah. We want the MrNig4000 days.

  • @michaelliu5260
    @michaelliu5260 7 місяців тому

    this video is actually beautiful

  • @fahn.k.3348
    @fahn.k.3348 Рік тому

    Came to support Max :D

  • @vladislavkoch
    @vladislavkoch Рік тому

    INSANE EDIT

  • @user-kp6dg4zf9b
    @user-kp6dg4zf9b Рік тому +12

    영어가 짧아서 반도 못알아 들었지만 MAX 가 왜 리더인지 너무 잘 느껴졌음. ㅠㅠ 진짜 너무 멋있다 ㅠㅠ

    • @my_woes
      @my_woes Рік тому +5

      if anyone's wondering, google translate told me he said "I couldn't understand even half of it because my English was so short, but I really felt why MAX was the leader. ㅠㅠ It's really so cool ㅠㅠ"

  • @Askfornate
    @Askfornate Рік тому +9

    As a raid leader for OG BWL, TBC/SSC I enjoyed the story! Keep grinding Max. Thanks for sharing your wisdom. A GM/GL/RL has prepared my lots for the real world. Crazy to say that out loud to people.

  • @abearinachair
    @abearinachair Рік тому +6

    What an incredible video. Thank you for allowing us to get a closer look at Max. A great leader and an even more remarkable human being. Also, amazing editing!

  • @Experiment.626
    @Experiment.626 Рік тому +1

    A true composer of the people and a absolute legend for NA raiding love you guys keep slaying it!

  • @Simoados
    @Simoados 6 місяців тому +2

    I don’t get it… what did he change?

    • @Johnzen03
      @Johnzen03 3 місяці тому +1

      Apparently having one person not raid and tell everyone what to do.
      Either way - I haven’t seen Liquid do all that well as of late so maybe it’s time for a change up?

  • @edvindahlqvist8921
    @edvindahlqvist8921 Рік тому

    awesome video, max is a really amazing human being

  • @morto9702
    @morto9702 Рік тому +13

    Max is awesome. Dude has taught me a lot about leading people.

  • @ShellyBeansGaming
    @ShellyBeansGaming Рік тому

    I never realised how pretty his eyes are D:

  • @tomselby24
    @tomselby24 5 місяців тому

    Conductor class incoming

  • @bmo14lax
    @bmo14lax 11 місяців тому

    Definitely a great leader for this sort of thing. But with how much dev involvement there is with the entirety of it, its an event exclusive to eSports organizations.

  • @julioubierna1192
    @julioubierna1192 Рік тому +1

    it's all about passion and that's why we love this guy so much. Thx Team Liquid for make this kind of content, this is why i play videogames

  • @Wzded
    @Wzded 5 місяців тому

    "unfortunately they had to put their guildies mental health first" .... I don't think she realized how that sounds, not the way I'd use the word 'unfortunately'.

  • @Uriksixteen
    @Uriksixteen Рік тому +26

    Can I get a timestamp for the part where he googles a guide for E2S?

    • @XtoGTA
      @XtoGTA Рік тому

      imagine disliking someone over a game so much that you go out of your way to come into a video about them and their position in a guild to comment something about old raids in XIV

    • @Uriksixteen
      @Uriksixteen Рік тому +14

      @@XtoGTA Imagine simping for someone with an ego so big that he makes a 15 minute video about himself talking about how he's the best thing since slice bread only to lose every time despite having a massive advantage.

    • @TekkzFoB
      @TekkzFoB Рік тому +1

      @@Uriksixteen cope and seethe more

  • @sexton260
    @sexton260 Рік тому +2

    "And for now, WoW is everything"

  • @daliamosesp
    @daliamosesp Рік тому

    who has he fired from the guild?

  • @Secho_0
    @Secho_0 Рік тому +6

    Woah Max's eyes are stunning holy hell

  • @peoples_a31
    @peoples_a31 Рік тому +1

    Inspiration....Max is just an inspiration ✨️ mad respect

  • @andreww9844
    @andreww9844 Рік тому

    Amazing

  • @doshka4237
    @doshka4237 Рік тому +3

    Absolute Banger

  • @AlrightokayAO
    @AlrightokayAO Рік тому +7

    Mad respect. Keep it up bud.

  • @EiyaTV
    @EiyaTV Рік тому +4

    THIS IS SO FUCKING GOOD

  • @bellywf5033
    @bellywf5033 Рік тому

    What a beakless man, much respect and love ^^ The most genuine and educated WoW player/streamer I know who can turn absolutely anything into a hilarious moment.
    btw intro is goated

  • @Halenty_
    @Halenty_ Рік тому +3

    This video is incredible, I really think Max is an example for so much players (including me). The editing is fantastic and I want more videos like this

  • @Dan-Scott
    @Dan-Scott Рік тому

    Watching them drop back to 5th or 4th or whatever it was, then climb back to 2nd and now into 1st, shows you have to work to stay on top.

  • @burntoast-tx1vb
    @burntoast-tx1vb 7 місяців тому +2

    Those who cant do, teach/coach.
    Those who cant play mage, rogue, warrior, DH, warlock play healers those who cant do any of that play supportive dps specs, those who cant do even that play evoker.
    And finally….those who cant even play aug play support outside of the raid.

  • @queequegtheater6093
    @queequegtheater6093 Рік тому +18

    >e2s guide

  • @ctang0353
    @ctang0353 Рік тому +2

    The Man of H will forever be a legend.

  • @dransel3345
    @dransel3345 Рік тому +1

    Max is a great leader. WoW raiding is truly one of the most unique experiences in gaming. Looking forward to following Max and Liquid further into WoW's future, and other MMOs. Great pickup for Team Liquid.

  • @Fetza_youtube
    @Fetza_youtube Рік тому +1

    This is another level... just beautiful. You are great leader! Thanks guys and have a good luck for world first. You deserve.
    P.S. Love the streams and I'm watching you raid progress now too.

  • @AswollAlpaca
    @AswollAlpaca Рік тому +7

    Good shit man, as a gm
    aid leader of a 9hr CE guild I can relate to this at a incredible level, obviously the level max does it is different at a financial/seriousness component but it’s cool to know someone that you can watch and relate to it with.

    • @TheRealBezani
      @TheRealBezani Рік тому

      Hey bro what is the secret to get into these more serious guilds? Like is it parses? People you know? I’d like to work towards something like a CE level guild but I don’t really know where to start tbh. Advice would be much appreciated.

  • @NotBarbEric
    @NotBarbEric Рік тому +3

    Maximum is the GOAT o7
    Amazing video!!!
    Thank you Maximum and Team Liquid

  • @MrJBleedge
    @MrJBleedge 6 місяців тому

    14:45 lmfao he's literally dying 🤣🤣🤣

  • @svaltqt4323
    @svaltqt4323 11 місяців тому

    Todos sabemos que la pelea VS Anduin fue una mierda, todo bugeado, perdieorn mucho tiempo ahi, luego el cangrejo, todos esos bgus y mecanicas se los paso Limit, para que las otras guild la tuvieran facil, para mi Liquid ahora, la mejor guild de wow

  • @mlgdamian2337
    @mlgdamian2337 Рік тому +4

    Max has some cool pet names in wow maybe he can share some

  • @jobi7651
    @jobi7651 Рік тому +1

    Max is the legend and the goat. Much love

    • @Swad-cf8nc
      @Swad-cf8nc Рік тому +3

      Yeah hes the GOAT. He lost Uldir with stupid decision making when they could have just recleared for a free win against Method. He won Nyalotha cause he paypigged incredible hard and did the whole 21st man thing and brought in a better player to replace him. Then they won Nathria after Method Josh destroyed Method and the guild had to reform quickly into Echo. Not only that but Echo were pushed incredible hard and frustrated by the reset headstart that Liquid had which lead to misplays. Lets not even begin to mention the embarrassment that was XIV raidleading and obviously lying about his raids being blind. Guys a snake

  • @breezeex4
    @breezeex4 Рік тому +1

    That was awesome!!! Truly appreciate that view into Max's world!! Thank you!

  • @Dribbledribbles
    @Dribbledribbles Рік тому

    AMAZING CONTENT

  • @sancx
    @sancx Рік тому

    Awesome video

  • @Juuhi1337
    @Juuhi1337 Рік тому

    Max is one in a million. We need such individuals in the gamer community to stay calm and think about community-sense, not beeing selfish and to be a better human beeing ofc.

  • @nickmasse3609
    @nickmasse3609 Рік тому +11

    I wish i had the ability to speak the way Max does. Great to see you grow over the years
    Bring NA back to number 1

  • @donaldadams3301
    @donaldadams3301 Рік тому

    Thanks so much for the video, Team Liquid.
    I would love to hear even more about how the evolution of the “21st man” concept became the raiding standard and something that broke the mold. It’s something that really could only have happened in this modern era with technology etc. and someone to have the idea that gets engineered. I know it’s been talked about before, but when I think of Max and Limit/Liquid that is what I associate them with in terms of “Changing the game” from a competitive advantage that has been adopted. Obviously streaming the race and creating this competition content with Echo has been fantastic for the WoW community and a positive revelation for the game.
    Thank you so much and good luck on future successes!

  • @topfive3109
    @topfive3109 Рік тому +6

    why didn't we see any end raid bosses footage on this tribute? ow wait XD lmfao. RWFourth.

    • @Krew_PoE
      @Krew_PoE Рік тому +1

      huh?? Nzoth was a last boss

    • @Swad-cf8nc
      @Swad-cf8nc Рік тому +1

      @@Krew_PoE Nzoth was a joke WF win, just because Max took paypigging corruptions to a whole nother level does not make him a good raidleader. Also Nathria was a joke since Method splintered. How about Uldir WFR where Max cost them a tier loss again by not reclearing?

    • @bode284
      @bode284 Рік тому +1

      You mean fifth

    • @ShellyBeansGaming
      @ShellyBeansGaming Рік тому +1

      Sire Denathrius was an end boss too, maybe reqatch the video or get some glasses idk xD

    • @qlcrane8019
      @qlcrane8019 Рік тому

      How about the times he went to try other mmo's and basically made a clown of himself every time

  • @rellify3
    @rellify3 Рік тому

    Wait now I really want to see some footage of Max singing, that's rad

  • @nic0lio
    @nic0lio Рік тому +2

    second! WoW this is an amazing piece!

  • @qlcrane8019
    @qlcrane8019 7 місяців тому +2

    Its nice that Max and his ego needed to have this video be made about him. Also there are other people and guilds that have changed raiding more than Max ever has. Max claims to be the mastermind of modern raiding when his only victories were shortly after Method disbanded, one with tons of BIS gear purchases with real money and one raid tier that was so short and easy that the 18h lead start that Liquid got decided the race. Oh did I forget to mention that Max bought his account to seem like more "older" raider? He is just ego andy that sits in front of a monitor not even playing the game not even raid leading

    • @iamme625
      @iamme625 6 місяців тому

      And what have you done to positively impact the world? There's always someone who just hates on people more famous than them. Get a life.

    • @qlcrane8019
      @qlcrane8019 6 місяців тому

      @@iamme625 Hey Max! Why are you defending yourself on an alt account? Get a life

    • @eimantas6405
      @eimantas6405 6 місяців тому

      @@qlcrane8019 not even raid leading, wtf are u talking about lmao, get some rest

  • @simonouellette3204
    @simonouellette3204 Рік тому

    Paragon. They were the top of the top to me, Method being close 2nd but certainly not first. When they disbanded, Method got ahead of everyone, every tier, it wasn't even a question of world first but who could manage to be 2nd. There was an old US vs EU competition with blood legion, Rogerbrown mocking the leadership of Rignaros for being too harsh. Then there was just no competition.
    Method would release their kill video on the next week (to not give the competition hints). Then came one guild that would change the history of the race to world first, the chinese guild Alpha (I think). They went and streamed Argus, and people all over the world saw the mythic phase only for the first time LIVE. Of course we all know that Method won as well.
    Method then decide to start streaming progression at the expanse of giving competition hints and tactics. Doesn't matter because they were the best right ?
    Max, you and your guild gave a new life to WoW. Starting from scratch, no sponsor, to be the first on Illidan, first in the US and eventually on one of the most prestigious fight, World fucking FIRST. And we everyone SEEING the nerds scream, that was so wholesome. I feared the US being first was just one hit wonder, and you proved everyone wrong by getting WF on Denathrius. Of course Method broke down because of Josh and Echo had to rebuild, and they did pretty well.
    This video is 5 months old, today you have a 3rd WF. Some people will diminish it by saying US got a head start, the tier was too easy etc.
    I loved Paragon, i loved Method, i love Echo and I love you guys for making this game BETTER. But seeing Max's so humble, the team together, Max decision to coach (who was the first to do it ever in the race, at least to my knowledge), seeing you go into random pugs and help drunk people get their AOTC, interacting with your community, in my honest opinion you changed WoW forever for the best.
    THD hugging his mom after WF Nzoth
    Imfiredup being just a god of mage even tho he was so young he was very mature
    Atrocity UI that was made a standard for most people nowaday (expressway font is BiS btw !!)
    Maivey face only changed when Nzoth was at 0.1% for one of the most iconic winning face ever
    And of course, Max stepping back and being the 21th raider must have been one of the less egoist move I've seen in a game
    You guys didn't just changed the way the game was played. You changed and inspired so many people for the better to never give up your goal and having fun while doing so !
    Sorry for the long post, love you guys !
    - Kalterast

  • @saschajatho7385
    @saschajatho7385 Рік тому

    Epic !

  • @joshhutto2069
    @joshhutto2069 Рік тому

    Wow this is so wholesome and inspiring. Let’s gooooooo

  • @ChristoefurQ
    @ChristoefurQ Рік тому +2

    GOAT

  • @Dribbledribbles
    @Dribbledribbles Рік тому

    Can relate so much to him. What a great guy and I know all about the music having lived that life. Long Live TEAM LIQUID .... Bone Baby

  • @aopsyke
    @aopsyke Рік тому +9

    Fun fact: At 5:34, when Max jumps out of his chair and off camera, the logo at the bottom instantly switches to Herman Miller.
    Max gets not only his stream, but his videos stolen by chairs.

  • @AtriseOW
    @AtriseOW Рік тому

    Absolute legend!

  • @kylebaldwin32
    @kylebaldwin32 Рік тому +4

    That could have been an hour long for sure and been great

  • @berz2343
    @berz2343 Рік тому

    Deserved, big support from EU, love to see RWF at peak competition and looking at Max stream is alway insightful, keep the good work! good luck for Raszageth 💪

  • @xcyan
    @xcyan Рік тому +1

    KEKW

  • @DrStank64
    @DrStank64 Рік тому +1

    Fantastic job on placing 5th! Looking forward to more WFRs from a back to back 2nd to 5th place raider! Hopefully the team will make better use of their head starts and raid nerfs in the future, you got this Max and team, don't Liquit!

  • @rashash9954
    @rashash9954 Рік тому +1

    Awesome video but I dont agree with the title :D the history and the competitive scene in wow started way before Max got introduced to it.

  • @draigrhosynreads3450
    @draigrhosynreads3450 Рік тому +2

    Watching him raid lead and how calm he is when talking to his team shows he’s an amazing leader! Good luck Liquid in the TVOI RWF🥰

  • @richie1496
    @richie1496 Рік тому +1

    Happy for Max that everything worked out.

  • @powerful7027
    @powerful7027 Рік тому +1

    His pet names really influenced and inspired me to really come up with great pet names for my hunter !

  • @misstweet9478
    @misstweet9478 Рік тому

    Love Liquid Maximum! He’s the real deal;)

  • @garrrettp
    @garrrettp Рік тому

    A lot of it comes into consideration too, this is only a temporary thing. What happens when games die off, people get older, families become priorities

  • @87bo6r6oriuybituny
    @87bo6r6oriuybituny Рік тому

    does anyone know if they talk about hunter pets in this video?

  • @EngelRaziel100
    @EngelRaziel100 Рік тому +1

    Max is just a great person :)

  • @ninou2246
    @ninou2246 Рік тому +1

    max 💙💙

  • @Braincleaner
    @Braincleaner Рік тому +7

    seeing him full face to the camera feels weird ....

  • @kevinmurray4011
    @kevinmurray4011 Рік тому +1

    The god of race to world second

  • @guido8620
    @guido8620 Рік тому +8

    jesus mr. narcisistic lmao

    • @saddingus1331
      @saddingus1331 Рік тому

      Yeah totally! Max should definitely never talk about himself in a video that’s about *checks video title* ……himself. 🤦‍♂️

  • @Absurd000
    @Absurd000 Рік тому +4

    Blind prog

  • @Stevenryan238
    @Stevenryan238 Рік тому +1

    Max absolutely deserves this. Thank you for making this video for him

  • @Numskul_YT
    @Numskul_YT Рік тому +1

    They really had my guy like he was composing an orchestra while it cut between raid vods 🤣

  • @jamesstrande2789
    @jamesstrande2789 Рік тому +5

    Max's charisma is unrivaled. Except maybe by Growl's.

  • @simonhylander7489
    @simonhylander7489 Рік тому

    and then he never caught up

  • @rennac9666
    @rennac9666 Рік тому

    kekw

  • @brettmurphy2917
    @brettmurphy2917 Рік тому +1

    How many of the team earn a liveable wage? Or is it like a paid holiday type gig?

    • @punchgod6993
      @punchgod6993 Рік тому

      I’m assuming since they’re apart of org with a lot of money I’m sure every core raider makes a livable wage

    • @qlcrane8019
      @qlcrane8019 Рік тому

      Rest makes pennies while Max makes the money. Its funny to see Echo having their own joint channel showing all the povs while having individual streamers stream their pov meanwhile Max literally funneled everything into his personal twitch channel where he sat around in silence because he got called out by the actual raid leader for calling out wrong stuff

  • @TheRunner3D
    @TheRunner3D Рік тому

    this is not only video about max, but also great video about modern world of warcraft

  • @harryb7661
    @harryb7661 Рік тому

    It's hard not to love this man.

  • @Boboneiful
    @Boboneiful Рік тому +1

    I fucking LOVE Max, legit.. Stay just like you are forever

  • @MrThunderFx
    @MrThunderFx Рік тому +6

    lol LMAO even

  • @tyice8730
    @tyice8730 Рік тому

    A true example of a great leader and the results speak for itself. Theres a lot to learn from this guy both inside and outside the game.

  • @branislavmiloradovic168
    @branislavmiloradovic168 Рік тому

    HERE AFTER WIN ON ABERUS! THE THRONE IS RECLAIMED!

    • @Swad-cf8nc
      @Swad-cf8nc Рік тому +1

      16 hour headstart baby, lets go!

    • @branislavmiloradovic168
      @branislavmiloradovic168 Рік тому +2

      @@Swad-cf8nc Lmao Echo caught up. And this argument is getting old.

    • @kat8506
      @kat8506 Рік тому +1

      ​@@branislavmiloradovic168 yeah because echo is just better and we all know❤

  • @danklein490
    @danklein490 Рік тому +4

    first?
    edit, I was first, but wow this is so good!!!