I'm from europe and so usually root for echo but I respect the hell out of Liquid, the mentality and vibes seem to be mature and professional, and I honestly think they're due for another W. Best of luck for Crucible! Gonna be one hell of a race. Edit: congratulations! Well deserved
All in all, we may have our favourites, but we all hype for a crazy good race with as many guilds in there to make it close and hype and most importantly. That the players have an awesome time
I don't understand why someone would automatically root for Echo just cause they are from Europe. I mean I understand why, but I also don't understand why. I'm from EU too but don't really care too much about where these guys are from, I root for Liquid because they seem like decent people. Nationalism in games is so 2005
@@Stylerflo99 Then why did I root for Liquid/Limit ever since early Shadowlands which at that point they won RWF twice in a row? I mean its fine to have opinions but you literally do not know me lol
Same I really hope they give a platform to a guy that got fired from blizzard for hitting his gf and asks every female of twitter to come have sex with him
I love the RWF event, it's just cool to see how these players and their teams play the game. I don't even particularly care who wins, it's just cool to see all these people at work. Generally the respect both main teams have for eachother is nice to see. Good luck in Aberrus, Liquid.
Amazing video. Watched a lot of RWF and its nice to see behind the scene with so many talented people part of the whole team. Good luck in Abberus and pray to the balancing gods this raid ends better. It's unfortunate what happened on last day. Awesome job nevertheless. Cheers
As much as I want Liquid to win, I want y'all to know that I will watch them just due to the passion that Max and the Liquid team brings to the RWF and WoW as a whole. Bonus points for having Jak as a caster. Now get Dratnos on board!!
Blizzard has honestly dropped the ball for these last two races, sepulcher took way too long to clear due to bad tuning. Then when they nerfed the boss when liquid was resting was another bad move on their end. Along with releasing the expansion and tier right around Christmas. Hopefully this tier goes a lot better in terms of tuning and actually being a bit more aware of their nerfs. In terms of when they're releasing them, although that's a big ask, to try and make it a bit more fair this time. Looking forward to the race though, they're always fun to watch, even though I typically am working when they're progging XD.
the hotfix the boss when the boss needs hotfixing, the race has nothing to do with blizzard. not a bad move on their end, they arent hotfixing because they are rooting for anyone, the just fix their game as they need to.
@@wowfurion3765 the truth is they could of hot fixed it when both teams were playing. They tend to overlap a few hours at a time, or heck just say hey we plan to hotfix the boss at XYZ time. So both teams can prep and be on for the hotfix given that literally made the difference. Had liquid been playing too I imagine the outcome would have been a lot different in that it would have been a serious race to the end. Over it being handed to echo simply because they got a serious advantage while liquid was sleeping. There are better ways to handle hotfixes that don't have detrimental impacts to the race. In which all it takes is blizzard communicating with the teams, which they simply don't do at all.
@@societyofsilliness also, you pulled that out of nowhere, there is no source saying blizz picks times for hotfixes, they do hotfixes at all points of the day.
Long as the last boss don't need nerfs to kill well be good. I think they are going to be on point though. They know the RWF raiders are getting tired of that shit, on both sides. It is cool af to watch though.
@@jessejames9674 Brother, Blizzard has "known" that for fuckin' 20 years, before "RWF" really even existed. It's basic fuckin' logic. They do not give a fuck, because they are incompetent. Whether Sarkareth is an absolute clown fiesta that is impossible without nerfs or not...is just a guess at this point, with nothing showing that we should lean one way or another in our expectations.
@@Frawt for me it don't matter. I don't have to deal with that shit. Raid mythic and stuff but by time I get to bosses they are usually worked out lol. It's really only a issue a couple hundred people have. Top 5 guilds or so. I just hope they get it worked out. Hire X wf raiders to test all bosses and just put in the contract they can't play competitively until the boss is dead. As in they can't be on a team pulling final boss until it's dead. I just want to see it keep going, it's cool af to watch on my 2nd monitor.
@@jessejames9674 If it gets so bad that RWF stops happening, you will be the one trying to get through all of these horribly tuned bosses. You should care because without them, we will be the test rats.
Liquid is smart to invest in these players and Maximum especially. Having a basis in MMO’s will be massively beneficial and pay off monetarily when Riot’s MMO comes out. That game is basically guaranteed to be a mainstay for years to come. Maximum will be one of the biggest streamers of that game.
Cool to see the dedication and work put in to this thing made by guilds, and somehow blizzard not putting the shithammer on this yet, like they usually manage to do in any cool content involving their games
This rwf has gone from like casual to all in, in so short of a time. All these analytics and testing on top of testing used to never be done in such a meticulous manner. Only thing I don’t like about it is that it gives zero chance of future teams having a chance unless they’re a signed team being paid. Can’t compete at this level without having full time people working for you. And your not holding down a job at all u less your just a player and even that is a challenge, it was a challenge before. The gap between limit and echo to everyone else in this last race was so massive.
I think it would be cool if yall made a before and after video of each player and their respective class yo get their before hopes(items, raid design, time it take for rwf to end) it would be cool to see what they predict and where they stand after rwf. Just a thought.
I'm surprised it took WoW this long to really get behind RWF. I feel like raiding is the biggest selling point of the game and it's where it really shines. They've had events for arena for SOOO much longer, yet their arena balancing has always been shameful.
Hey there, ty for letting us look behind the curtains a bit. I kind of disagree with the last statement made: You can should try to be the best possible but not because someone else is looking at you and say "You are nr1" but because it is fun to try and grow together. I think I will not remember Liquid for the being the WF guild that they are because they won all the time (even though I am glad you did; greetings from germany btw) but instead of because of the way that you seem to carry yourself and the way you seem to treasure each other. This might not be a popular opinion but I will remember Limit/Liquid for the approach and the mindset (and of course you rock, no doubt about that!). I hope you partied a lot after the win and I am looking forward to the next race. Ty very much for being a part of this race, I really enjoyed this week!
@@semiramisubw4864 releasing a day earlier gives literally no advantage in the grand scheme. They run into several bugs every single tier. They also fight pre nerfed bosses, they literally get 0 benefit from starting earlier. The actual race begins at the end of final boss hp. Not on the first 3 bosses of mythic....
Those who cant do, teach/coach. Those who cant play mage, rogue, warrior, DH, warlock play healers those who cant do any of that play supportive dps specs, those who cant do even that play evoker. And finally….those who cant even play aug play support outside of the raid.
Hey got a quick question, maybe one experienced person can help me out. If I want to help with splits, how does it work? So I got multiple characters with 420 I-lvl from season 1. If i sign up for splits to help a guild on RWF, am I able to trade every piece of gear, even the I-lvl is higher than my current gear? And since people can pass on every piece of gear, why would they take random people for split raids? They have enough characters per player no? Please explain to me how split raids work in Dragonflight season 2 for me :) thank you very much! *sorry for my english, I am not a native speaker :)
you don't trade gear since there is no personal loot anymore thus guilds are fine accepting even a 415 geared char, say they are doing a tier set split for druids and whoever is in that token and u join and help them on a geared druid you just don't suck, do mechanics and decent numbers, pass on all items and that's it.
It's crazy to me that this is supposedly financially profitable. So many people work so many hours for months on this stuff, how on earth can a few sponsors pay for all of this?
have to disagree wie the executive maybe its because of the social aspect of WoW but usually top 5 or even 10 rwf is very well remembered in this communiy
I guess I didn't realize how organized RWF was. It's more of a production now. They have endless funds. Money for brand new computers, gaming Mouses and keyboards. Fiber internet the latest I9 processors for the whole team. A facility and team shirts. Managers and support. Millions of gold. I mean even with let's say average players. If you give an average player that many advantages. You are basically buying a world first win. Not every guild has players with the newest computers or best internet connections.
I’m from NA but stayed watching methods broadcast against gahuun or however u spell it. So I’m more connected with echo and those players. But I enjoy watching them all best of luck to everyone
really looking forward to RWF
This has become something I look forward to at the beginning of each patch.
Thanks for the entertainment guys.
I'm from europe and so usually root for echo but I respect the hell out of Liquid, the mentality and vibes seem to be mature and professional, and I honestly think they're due for another W.
Best of luck for Crucible! Gonna be one hell of a race.
Edit: congratulations! Well deserved
All in all, we may have our favourites, but we all hype for a crazy good race with as many guilds in there to make it close and hype and most importantly. That the players have an awesome time
this race will be closer than ever, Echo lost their World first buff by kicking Lorgok. So it will be either Method or Echo who wins the race.
I don't understand why someone would automatically root for Echo just cause they are from Europe. I mean I understand why, but I also don't understand why. I'm from EU too but don't really care too much about where these guys are from, I root for Liquid because they seem like decent people. Nationalism in games is so 2005
@@katanaswing3082 Sounds like you just like loosing imo.
@@Stylerflo99 Then why did I root for Liquid/Limit ever since early Shadowlands which at that point they won RWF twice in a row? I mean its fine to have opinions but you literally do not know me lol
I just realized Ive never seen Max without glasses
I hope you guys have Jak back again. I really loved listening to his casting.
Same I really hope they give a platform to a guy that got fired from blizzard for hitting his gf and asks every female of twitter to come have sex with him
Same! He's the best WoW caster
He's confirmed back!
This was so much fun. Thanks TL for sharing all the work we put in!
I thought that was Bubbadub!!! I recognized the mustache despite not seeing it for almost a decade when he retired from the LCS!
I love the RWF event, it's just cool to see how these players and their teams play the game. I don't even particularly care who wins, it's just cool to see all these people at work. Generally the respect both main teams have for eachother is nice to see. Good luck in Aberrus, Liquid.
I love this guild so much
Super excited for the race as always! Good luck to all teams competing this raid tier!
Cant wait for this next race! This is my superbowl only it goes on for a week or two! Bring it home liquid you got this!
Amazing video. Watched a lot of RWF and its nice to see behind the scene with so many talented people part of the whole team. Good luck in Abberus and pray to the balancing gods this raid ends better. It's unfortunate what happened on last day. Awesome job nevertheless. Cheers
Reminds me of True Sight by Valve, which I absolutely love. Great job and definitely keep these videos coming in the future!
This is why i love watching you guys compete! Gl with the upcoming race
This is my first race watching and first time really getting into wow this looks intense
As much as I want Liquid to win, I want y'all to know that I will watch them just due to the passion that Max and the Liquid team brings to the RWF and WoW as a whole. Bonus points for having Jak as a caster. Now get Dratnos on board!!
i just got so hype seeing the thumbnail
This was epic! Hyped for the upcoming RWF!!!
Fantastic video, looking forward to Aberrus!
i gotta get in here and say, FUCK YAH BUBBA FROM LAST PLACE LoL PRO TO THIS MAKES ME SO HAPPY
Crazy how much effort goes into this. Hats off my friends!
This was awesome to watch! Hopefully we get one closer to the end of the race instead of the closer to the launch fo the next one >.
Yooo. That's so sick what Adeen is doing. Nice behind the scenes.
They fired her
Great video! Looking forward to the next RWF!!
Can't wait to watch you guys pump again!
Amazing 🎉 I cant wait for this raid tier!!!!!
Thanks for this, is truly a top tier video .
Wonderful video! ❤
Blizzard has honestly dropped the ball for these last two races, sepulcher took way too long to clear due to bad tuning. Then when they nerfed the boss when liquid was resting was another bad move on their end. Along with releasing the expansion and tier right around Christmas. Hopefully this tier goes a lot better in terms of tuning and actually being a bit more aware of their nerfs. In terms of when they're releasing them, although that's a big ask, to try and make it a bit more fair this time.
Looking forward to the race though, they're always fun to watch, even though I typically am working when they're progging XD.
the hotfix the boss when the boss needs hotfixing, the race has nothing to do with blizzard. not a bad move on their end, they arent hotfixing because they are rooting for anyone, the just fix their game as they need to.
@@wowfurion3765 the truth is they could of hot fixed it when both teams were playing. They tend to overlap a few hours at a time, or heck just say hey we plan to hotfix the boss at XYZ time. So both teams can prep and be on for the hotfix given that literally made the difference. Had liquid been playing too I imagine the outcome would have been a lot different in that it would have been a serious race to the end. Over it being handed to echo simply because they got a serious advantage while liquid was sleeping.
There are better ways to handle hotfixes that don't have detrimental impacts to the race. In which all it takes is blizzard communicating with the teams, which they simply don't do at all.
@@kid10249595 yeah, because blizzard has nothing to do with the race to world first, i feel like i just stated that.
@@societyofsilliness also, you pulled that out of nowhere, there is no source saying blizz picks times for hotfixes, they do hotfixes at all points of the day.
@@wowfurion3765they literally said they did in the interview.
Here's hoping Blizzard doesn't fumble the bag in Aberrus and we can keep having this exciting event happen every time!
Long as the last boss don't need nerfs to kill well be good. I think they are going to be on point though. They know the RWF raiders are getting tired of that shit, on both sides. It is cool af to watch though.
@@jessejames9674 Brother, Blizzard has "known" that for fuckin' 20 years, before "RWF" really even existed. It's basic fuckin' logic. They do not give a fuck, because they are incompetent. Whether Sarkareth is an absolute clown fiesta that is impossible without nerfs or not...is just a guess at this point, with nothing showing that we should lean one way or another in our expectations.
@@Frawt for me it don't matter. I don't have to deal with that shit. Raid mythic and stuff but by time I get to bosses they are usually worked out lol. It's really only a issue a couple hundred people have. Top 5 guilds or so. I just hope they get it worked out. Hire X wf raiders to test all bosses and just put in the contract they can't play competitively until the boss is dead. As in they can't be on a team pulling final boss until it's dead. I just want to see it keep going, it's cool af to watch on my 2nd monitor.
@@jessejames9674 If it gets so bad that RWF stops happening, you will be the one trying to get through all of these horribly tuned bosses. You should care because without them, we will be the test rats.
Such a cool look behind the curtain
i was world #12 in bc. i thought we did alot of prep. but what this has turned into, is just nuts.
Liquid is smart to invest in these players and Maximum especially. Having a basis in MMO’s will be massively beneficial and pay off monetarily when Riot’s MMO comes out. That game is basically guaranteed to be a mainstay for years to come. Maximum will be one of the biggest streamers of that game.
New race starts soon! Good luck!
Cool to see the dedication and work put in to this thing made by guilds, and somehow blizzard not putting the shithammer on this yet, like they usually manage to do in any cool content involving their games
Raceto world second gonna be sick maximus!
Each time I watch the RWF, it makes me want to raid again 😢
great job guys, next race itll be it
It's their time. Liquid to the Max!
I like seeing the meal menu and catered food!
Continue making these! Top tier content.
I hope you have gathered the mental strength it will require if things go past week 2.
I am rooting for you guys this season. Go get that WF please!
"Nobody remembers 2nd and 3rd". Good luck, you're going to need it vs Echo... They outclass you on every front...
1:30- 1:35 BRO i didnt know yall could afford the Grimace....sheeeeeesh
Good luck in Aberrus, team!
GL in upcoming rwf Liquid! Can't wait for it to start!
Awesome vid
hiqh quality. respect👍
team liquid kind of reminds me of a shart on a cold rainy morning
didn't expect firedup to be 6'5" lol
Amazing video! Not many people appreciate the huge amount of work that goes into this. GL in RWF (I'm still betting on Echo though :))
This is a really cute video, love this content. :D
that video is a good example why i like liquid so much more than echo......and good to hear they are in tryhard mode
6:37 HOLY SHIT ITS THE CEO OF SPLITS NO WAY
16:28 WAGON
This rwf has gone from like casual to all in, in so short of a time. All these analytics and testing on top of testing used to never be done in such a meticulous manner. Only thing I don’t like about it is that it gives zero chance of future teams having a chance unless they’re a signed team being paid. Can’t compete at this level without having full time people working for you. And your not holding down a job at all u less your just a player and even that is a challenge, it was a challenge before. The gap between limit and echo to everyone else in this last race was so massive.
Mike Milanov what a wise man tbh !
I think it would be cool if yall made a before and after video of each player and their respective class yo get their before hopes(items, raid design, time it take for rwf to end) it would be cool to see what they predict and where they stand after rwf. Just a thought.
i understand how they felt losing to a nerf while they sleep again... 16:11
I'm surprised it took WoW this long to really get behind RWF. I feel like raiding is the biggest selling point of the game and it's where it really shines. They've had events for arena for SOOO much longer, yet their arena balancing has always been shameful.
This video just a visualisation of why I love Liquid so much. These dudes (an dudines) have on my heart since Nathria
Anyone know what happened to Veyloris? Used to love his casting but didn't see him last time.
at 12 min i was like shadowrealm inc
Hey there,
ty for letting us look behind the curtains a bit. I kind of disagree with the last statement made: You can should try to be the best possible but not because someone else is looking at you and say "You are nr1" but because it is fun to try and grow together. I think I will not remember Liquid for the being the WF guild that they are because they won all the time (even though I am glad you did; greetings from germany btw) but instead of because of the way that you seem to carry yourself and the way you seem to treasure each other. This might not be a popular opinion but I will remember Limit/Liquid for the approach and the mindset (and of course you rock, no doubt about that!).
I hope you partied a lot after the win and I am looking forward to the next race. Ty very much for being a part of this race, I really enjoyed this week!
Let's Go, Liquid!!
how many hours did it take to get all the information? (countless)
Is there some price money for the winner or just prestige?
3:40 ImExile and Ben Sighting xdd
It’s sad the only thing I took from that is win or get dropped… damn man
i hope they dont freaking nerf the god damn last boss while liquid is sleeping this time
it was really anti climatic
we can talk about that when raids are released on all regions at the same time.
Or we can talk about how echo takes boss in 1 try after nerf and liquid took hours
@@FernandoBarrueto-lo4tv liquid just woke up and echo we're pulling it for hours when the nerf took place. So technically, they were the same.
@@semiramisubw4864 releasing a day earlier gives literally no advantage in the grand scheme. They run into several bugs every single tier. They also fight pre nerfed bosses, they literally get 0 benefit from starting earlier. The actual race begins at the end of final boss hp. Not on the first 3 bosses of mythic....
Those who cant do, teach/coach.
Those who cant play mage, rogue, warrior, DH, warlock play healers those who cant do any of that play supportive dps specs, those who cant do even that play evoker.
And finally….those who cant even play aug play support outside of the raid.
6 days until another world 2nd!
They spent the equivalent of $40k USD in WoW tokens for the race. Woah
Here's hoping this next raid is good enough to not kill RWF.
The best 2nd best guild in the world
Hey got a quick question, maybe one experienced person can help me out.
If I want to help with splits, how does it work?
So I got multiple characters with 420 I-lvl from season 1.
If i sign up for splits to help a guild on RWF, am I able to trade every piece of gear, even the I-lvl is higher than my current gear?
And since people can pass on every piece of gear, why would they take random people for split raids? They have enough characters per player no?
Please explain to me how split raids work in Dragonflight season 2 for me :) thank you very much!
*sorry for my english, I am not a native speaker :)
you don't trade gear since there is no personal loot anymore thus guilds are fine accepting even a 415 geared char,
say they are doing a tier set split for druids and whoever is in that token and u join and help them on a geared druid
you just don't suck, do mechanics and decent numbers, pass on all items and that's it.
@@bobvezirski7282 thank you for your answer!
WORLD FIRST BABY WE ARE BACKKK
Bring it home boys
Wooooooh!
What a banger BTS vid.
I fucking love it
did yall find a tank yet?
"40 years from now when I tell my kid I used to be cool"
My guy you having your first kid in your mid 60s early 70s or something?
Nerfs win the race. Make sure to be logging in after nerfs go live to win easy!!
First to the Moon! Let's go boys!
It's crazy to me that this is supposedly financially profitable. So many people work so many hours for months on this stuff, how on earth can a few sponsors pay for all of this?
have to disagree wie the executive maybe its because of the social aspect of WoW but usually top 5 or even 10 rwf is very well remembered in this communiy
Im from usa so i root for max and his crew but watch out for method man they took third sco knows how to build some of the best guilds in the world
Fair bit of Adderall going around here haha
who will win between the remaining 3 raids group to play wow 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
GL
Very cool video!
Seeing everyone in masks still makes me laugh.
cool.
Still place 2 😂
JAK was bis caster 1000%
I guess I didn't realize how organized RWF was. It's more of a production now. They have endless funds. Money for brand new computers, gaming Mouses and keyboards. Fiber internet the latest I9 processors for the whole team. A facility and team shirts. Managers and support. Millions of gold. I mean even with let's say average players. If you give an average player that many advantages. You are basically buying a world first win. Not every guild has players with the newest computers or best internet connections.
raszageth world first won echo, because they nerfed boss overnight, right?
Is this how it works? because a guild cant kill it while essentially being VERY undergeared, it must be nerfed
What do you mean they are undergeared? They are literally more geared during their first kill than most people will ever be during the same patch lol.
@@billymays9296 the average ilvl for rwf was 405-410, most guilds getting ce were 415-420, thats a HUUUUGE difference lol
I've been rooting for them every raid tier. I hope they get wf.
I’m from NA but stayed watching methods broadcast against gahuun or however u spell it. So I’m more connected with echo and those players. But I enjoy watching them all best of luck to everyone