@paulcox2447 the photographers and videohraphers at the Olympia have stated its the lighting. Guys who've been doing it 20 years have said they know when their pictures changed. It isn't all lighting I know some of it is how full guys come in now but Hadi doesn't have any oil in his quads or chest and they are extremely striated under more favorable lighting.
@kaleandoscope the quality of video is up and presentation and other aspects of production. Plenty of different attempts at lighting at different Olympias that went bad sure but the screens in the back and excess lighting washes out what detail is left after they get so full in modern era.
Bro Hattie looks soft as fuck compared to Coleman in the most muscular. Big fake shoulders do him no favors. Ab+thigh tho all day that's one of Hadis best poses
closer than I thought. Hadi really holds his own, but aside from the ab shot and side shots Ronnie wins. also, keep in mind, body builders posed legs differently in the 90s. Ronnie had his legs together in the front shots. if Ronnie posed his legs the way Hadi did from the front, he would’ve been even more dominant - you can see from the back, his legs are bigger and more detailed
Ronnie's side triceps wasn't the worst executed ever but it was really up there. His thin lateral tricep head was one thing, but there was so much more he could have done to maximize his effectiveness in the pose like not crunching down to the side and making his obliques stand out while hiding his serratus detail in the process. Could have turned his lower body to the side much more to showcase his great glutes and hamstrings as well. Plus, his triceps themselves were only thin but very striated and there have been guys like Andrew Jacked who have similarly thin lateral triceps but pose in such a way that he pushes his long head out to give the illusion of better sweep, something Ronnie could have easily done given his huge lats and great long tricep head.
In the photos I actually like Hadi better in the front double. Better quad sweep, better shoulder to waist ratio, better abs/vacuum, better outline. But in person I imagine Ronnie’s size would blow everything else away.
Yes, I totally agree! And considering how good Ronnie's back is - from the back, his front double doesn't have a great V Taper?? In fact his lat's often look quite weak in his front double biceps pose?? Hadi is actually more aesthetic in quite a few poses? Side chest, and side triceps? In fact he matches up pretty well with Ronnie.
@TheLusianPopa lmao who tf is beating 98 and 03 Ronnie ?? Also 93 and 95 Yates . You wanna talk overrated ?? Talk about Arnold . Jesus Christ everyone talks like Arnold would be unbeatable with Modern drugs 😂 fuck outta here
Haddie's tricep shot is supernatural... I'm about halfway through and at least at this point he seems to be keeping up quite well with Coleman. It's always been hard for me to get past Coleman's abdomen and asymmetry and his midsection... That being said his x-frame, size and conditioning are really something...
Wow! I am a bid Choopan fan, and i think he looks great, but Coleman is superior due to his longer (and quite aesthetic looking) limbs. Though i agree with you, that Choopan has the better torso from the front. Fantastic midsection control! Is there something like a "short triceps"? Choopans arms are not bad but especially his triceps seem to be too short and don't get to the elbows.
Hadi has some of the widest clavicles for such a short guy. If only he had better delt genetics it would make shots like the most muscular and front lat spread even better than already are.
I don’t think we will see anyone like Ronnie again, at least in my lifetime. Like you said, no taking anything away from Hadi, but imho it’s his structure. He doesn’t flow like Ronnie.
I got a good one for you, Marx. This will settle the debate between what is the best Ronnie Coleman physique. 99 Olympia Coleman vs 03 Arnold Classic Coleman. Ronnie wins against Hadi but Ronnie is not very dry!
Since people like to say these new guys wouldnt place top 10 in the 90s..maybe take the top 3 guys from every year in the 2000s and put them against the top 3 guys throughout the 90s..You would have to eliminate Coleman since he won in the 90s and 2000s..top 3 best guys from 90 91 etc..and top 3 guys from 2000, 20001 ect ..
Hadi is more muscular for his height - his legs are thicker for their length. Hadi has a far better mid section, Hadi wins on conditioning. Side tricep and most muscular go to Hadi easily. That said Ronnie wins with back, arms and chest. Fans go for Ronnie out of emotion, but in reality - this is close!
Does anyone else think Hadi looks better? I'm not an expert but his thighs look thicker and he looks wider (at keast relative to his height) with more bixed abs whereas Ronnie has a gap in his abs.
@@Anonymityfan okay for example, look at the thighs. Hadi looks relatively comperable because of posing and the fact that they aren’t standing next to eachother. If you just look at the quadriceps muscle, Ronnie has 2 times as much mass. If you look at the arms, Ronnie is probably multiple inches bigger with better separation, in the back Ronnie has seemingly twice as much size in the traps, and better condition all around. If you look at delts, Ronnie’s are thicker and have more detail. The chest, same story. It’s sometimes hard to tell because of pictures, but I assure you, Ronnie in his prime would make hadi look like an amateur
@@gigithebird2151 Google says Hadi is much shorter which might be why he looks bigger proportionately. Do you think it should be about proportions or sheer size? I do think Hadi looks more symmetrical though.
Maybe even better? Ronnie has a huge ass, and considering how good his back is, his v taper is poor? Hadi actually has better aesthetics?? His front double actually looks way better to me?
Honestly Hadi at the AC 2023 might be the best physique of this generation (the post Phil heath era). Id really love to see this version against 2018 Rhoden to see who is the best Mr.O between the two. I know hadis version is an AC version but I still wana see it
Ronnies head is much smaller. He is standing further back. So for the millionth time just another comparison comparing a 90s guy to a modern athlete The modern pics are always closer to the stage. You can see how big and thick Coleman is by himself. Then remember he is 5'11. Much, much bigger frame packed with just as much or more muscle per inch and its rounder and more detailed. Hadi gets smashed. Genetics are a bitch. Hadi looses even in the pics but IRL it would be even worse
@@Jesse-df9fz Agreed. I can't think of any bodybuilder in history who was as wide as Ramy. I mean even Jay (who is very extraordinary wide himself) looked narrow next to him in 2013.
Wonder if we will ever see someone with a better physique than Ronnie. Hadi looks dang good and Derek soft boy Lunsford was given the Olympia as a gift.
Ronnie is not very aesthetic in certain shots like that abs and thigh and the side tricep, I could see someone being better than him one day. Like a Phil Heath wide wide clavicles
Hadi would smoke many of the 90s guys. Many of them were lacking complete backs/legs. Hadi has those and the conditioning. AND im a fan of the 90s guys..
@thebodybeatdownDiTi yep, tired of the 90s glaze it's getting old. Truth is, the entire top 10 at today's Olympia would displace the top 10 in any year of the 90s aside from Dorian Yates, Ronnie Coleman, couple other MAYBE could sneak in. Put Hadi next to soggy glutes Flex Wheeler and you'd see the difference real quick
@@thebodybeatdownDiTi So what. His thighs are completely out of Proportion to his calves. He has no symmetry. Wide Waist and small arms. Lol. Conditioning sucks aswell
Hadi looks like a troll next to Ronnie.
video idea: history of Olympia winners IF the best physique always won (in your opinion)
Would be awesome, a 30+ minutes long video
Good one
Victor Martinez 2007 for sure
Genius
@@DespicableMe007Dennis Wolf was better that year.
That side tricep pose of Hadi is statuesque
All I see is a gigantic difference in lighting. Obv Ronnie beats everyone but that dreadful lighting is not doing Hadis conditioning any justice.
Bro Ronnie just had a lot more detail. Genetically, plus all the oil Hadi uses
Ronnie had enough shape and separation to make flex and Kevin look like they were lacking
@paulcox2447 the photographers and videohraphers at the Olympia have stated its the lighting. Guys who've been doing it 20 years have said they know when their pictures changed. It isn't all lighting I know some of it is how full guys come in now but Hadi doesn't have any oil in his quads or chest and they are extremely striated under more favorable lighting.
To me the lighting is great. Compare this show to the previous Olympia if you wanna see the worst lighting for video/photography.
@kaleandoscope the quality of video is up and presentation and other aspects of production. Plenty of different attempts at lighting at different Olympias that went bad sure but the screens in the back and excess lighting washes out what detail is left after they get so full in modern era.
Hadi's not bad though 💀
Hadi is very much competative in Abs n Things, Most Muscular .... I actually like those even more than Coleman's
Bro Hattie looks soft as fuck compared to Coleman in the most muscular. Big fake shoulders do him no favors.
Ab+thigh tho all day that's one of Hadis best poses
Hadi definitely wins Abs n Thighs, but his arms are too stringy compared to Ronnie in the most muscular
closer than I thought. Hadi really holds his own, but aside from the ab shot and side shots Ronnie wins.
also, keep in mind, body builders posed legs differently in the 90s. Ronnie had his legs together in the front shots. if Ronnie posed his legs the way Hadi did from the front, he would’ve been even more dominant - you can see from the back, his legs are bigger and more detailed
Ronnie's side triceps wasn't the worst executed ever but it was really up there. His thin lateral tricep head was one thing, but there was so much more he could have done to maximize his effectiveness in the pose like not crunching down to the side and making his obliques stand out while hiding his serratus detail in the process. Could have turned his lower body to the side much more to showcase his great glutes and hamstrings as well. Plus, his triceps themselves were only thin but very striated and there have been guys like Andrew Jacked who have similarly thin lateral triceps but pose in such a way that he pushes his long head out to give the illusion of better sweep, something Ronnie could have easily done given his huge lats and great long tricep head.
PLEASEEE do marcus ruhl 2002 mr olympia vs ronnie coleman 2002 mr olympia. On UA-cam is one short that perfectly show marcus ruhl mentatory poses
U are referring to Supersetman's video and it's still missing a few mandatories.
@@TheZgriffin no, i think UA-cam channel bodybuilding_hero
This should be a blowout
Conditioning wise Haadi matches Ronnie but he hard loses in the muscularity, symmetry and proportions departments
In the photos I actually like Hadi better in the front double. Better quad sweep, better shoulder to waist ratio, better abs/vacuum, better outline. But in person I imagine Ronnie’s size would blow everything else away.
Yes, I totally agree! And considering how good Ronnie's back is - from the back, his front double doesn't have a great V Taper??
In fact his lat's often look quite weak in his front double biceps pose??
Hadi is actually more aesthetic in quite a few poses? Side chest, and side triceps?
In fact he matches up pretty well with Ronnie.
No bodybuilder in history is beating 99 Coleman . Except maybe 03 Coleman.
@TheLusianPopa lmao who tf is beating 98 and 03 Ronnie ?? Also 93 and 95 Yates . You wanna talk overrated ?? Talk about Arnold . Jesus Christ everyone talks like Arnold would be unbeatable with Modern drugs 😂 fuck outta here
Haddie's tricep shot is supernatural...
I'm about halfway through and at least at this point he seems to be keeping up quite well with Coleman. It's always been hard for me to get past Coleman's abdomen and asymmetry and his midsection...
That being said his x-frame, size and conditioning are really something...
These videos are great… about as close to actual competition you can get.
Why would you do this to my man Hadi!!??
Wow! I am a bid Choopan fan, and i think he looks great, but Coleman is superior due to his longer (and quite aesthetic looking) limbs. Though i agree with you, that Choopan has the better torso from the front. Fantastic midsection control!
Is there something like a "short triceps"? Choopans arms are not bad but especially his triceps seem to be too short and don't get to the elbows.
Hadi has some of the widest clavicles for such a short guy. If only he had better delt genetics it would make shots like the most muscular and front lat spread even better than already are.
I don’t think we will see anyone like Ronnie again, at least in my lifetime.
Like you said, no taking anything away from Hadi, but imho it’s his structure. He doesn’t flow like Ronnie.
I'll never stop being in awe of Ronnie. GOAT!
Except, of course, for the donut gut and the occasional bitch tits......
Ronnie is a legend, unrepeatable ❤
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Hadi might break the Top 10 back then
Hadi would easily be top 10 back then
I got a good one for you, Marx. This will settle the debate between what is the best Ronnie Coleman physique. 99 Olympia Coleman vs 03 Arnold Classic Coleman. Ronnie wins against Hadi but Ronnie is not very dry!
Hadi's triceps and abs are the best
There's NO comparison.
Very close
What you smoking!
Big Ron, all day.....
Hadi wins side tricep but Ronnie wins everything else
Hadi and Jay cutler comparison would be more competitive
Since people like to say these new guys wouldnt place top 10 in the 90s..maybe take the top 3 guys from every year in the 2000s and put them against the top 3 guys throughout the 90s..You would have to eliminate Coleman since he won in the 90s and 2000s..top 3 best guys from 90 91 etc..and top 3 guys from 2000, 20001 ect ..
Hadi has a much better middle section
I don’t mind Hadi and I’m not really a big Ronnie fan, but ,in this comparison,, Hadi isn’t in it.
Ronnie just makes Hadi invisible.
Yeah buddy!!, Lightweight!
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Ronnie Coleman winner
Day 33 of asking for Jorlan Vieira(Lucius Blaque) vs Dave Palumbo, it will get you tons of views from Brazil
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King Coleman wins cause ain't nothing but a peanut 🥜 💪✌️
Wow Hadi's waist is wide!!!!!!
You're a clown
Hadi is more muscular for his height - his legs are thicker for their length. Hadi has a far better mid section, Hadi wins on conditioning. Side tricep and most muscular go to Hadi easily. That said Ronnie wins with back, arms and chest. Fans go for Ronnie out of emotion, but in reality - this is close!
Please don't compare anyone to Ronnie Coleman because you know who will win.
Ronnie troppo superiore
Day 39 of asking for goodvito vs lee Haney (best version)
Does anyone else think Hadi looks better? I'm not an expert but his thighs look thicker and he looks wider (at keast relative to his height) with more bixed abs whereas Ronnie has a gap in his abs.
You’re trippin hard dude
@@gigithebird2151 tbh I don't know bodybuilding well, what makes you say that?
@@Anonymityfan okay for example, look at the thighs. Hadi looks relatively comperable because of posing and the fact that they aren’t standing next to eachother.
If you just look at the quadriceps muscle, Ronnie has 2 times as much mass. If you look at the arms, Ronnie is probably multiple inches bigger with better separation, in the back Ronnie has seemingly twice as much size in the traps, and better condition all around. If you look at delts, Ronnie’s are thicker and have more detail. The chest, same story.
It’s sometimes hard to tell because of pictures, but I assure you, Ronnie in his prime would make hadi look like an amateur
@@gigithebird2151 Google says Hadi is much shorter which might be why he looks bigger proportionately. Do you think it should be about proportions or sheer size?
I do think Hadi looks more symmetrical though.
Can we see Joel Kellett vs Arnold Schwarzenegger?
Damn Hadi keeps up pretty good honestly
Maybe even better? Ronnie has a huge ass, and considering how good his back is, his v taper is poor?
Hadi actually has better aesthetics?? His front double actually looks way better to me?
@@mikthe2004 yeah in many poses he has better lines. Front double, and OMG the side tricep! He looks like a superhero, he is so detailed and hard!
would give hadi the side trizeps and the abs and tigh, rest is ronnie of by a mile!
2d vs 3d
Hadi king 👑👑👑👑👑👑👑
Ronnie has Hadi beat and all body parts except for quads. The guys today really leveled up on quads...
Nope. Those overgrown adductors look so awful!
You sized the Ronnie side chest too small, his head is as big as Hadi
Sizing???
Honestly Hadi at the AC 2023 might be the best physique of this generation (the post Phil heath era).
Id really love to see this version against 2018 Rhoden to see who is the best Mr.O between the two. I know hadis version is an AC version but I still wana see it
He ain't beating 2020 Ramy or 2012 Kai
@@Gnybr he said post Phil heath so kai not included
Ronnies head is much smaller. He is standing further back. So for the millionth time just another comparison comparing a 90s guy to a modern athlete
The modern pics are always closer to the stage.
You can see how big and thick Coleman is by himself. Then remember he is 5'11.
Much, much bigger frame packed with just as much or more muscle per inch and its rounder and more detailed.
Hadi gets smashed. Genetics are a bitch. Hadi looses even in the pics but IRL it would be even worse
Be that as it may. Ronnie's head is genuinely tiny too proportionally to his head. It's quite small and adds to the illusion too
Fls ronnie alien
Haadi did not dwarf Ramy in width lol
He's said that before too lol idk why he thinks Hadi is as wide as Ramy, like fucking nobody is 😂
@@Jesse-df9fz Agreed. I can't think of any bodybuilder in history who was as wide as Ramy. I mean even Jay (who is very extraordinary wide himself) looked narrow next to him in 2013.
Rühl Noc vs big Ron russian gp 04
6 vs 2 colman wins
I’m a fan of Ronnie but his abs are not it.
Wonder if we will ever see someone with a better physique than Ronnie. Hadi looks dang good and Derek soft boy Lunsford was given the Olympia as a gift.
Cope
Am I the only one who thinks hadi looks like a roast chicken?
i dont stand him , walker and lunsford...i dont like this kind of physique
lol, no compare to Ronnie
They all look terrible today.
open vs 212
Ronnie is not very aesthetic in certain shots like that abs and thigh and the side tricep, I could see someone being better than him one day. Like a Phil Heath wide wide clavicles
Ronnie the king gut gyno Coleman sucks. Now he can’t walk. Always was pregnant of 7 months.
you feel better about yourself lil fella?
I always felt Ronnie’s weird abs were enough to kinda disqualify him in most competitions despite his size imo… very unaesthetic and distracting
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@@saeidShahbazi-y6c lmfao
Hadi won 5/8 poses
You can't even compare Hadi to Coleman. Hadi wouldn't even be Top 10 in Colemans time.
Hadi would smoke many of the 90s guys. Many of them were lacking complete backs/legs. Hadi has those and the conditioning. AND im a fan of the 90s guys..
Ridiculous statement, even Jay said on his podcast that Hadi is one of the best of all time after the Arnold Ohio.
@@thebodybeatdownDiTi King Kamali placed 10th in 2001
You think he beats Hadi? LMAO
@thebodybeatdownDiTi yep, tired of the 90s glaze it's getting old. Truth is, the entire top 10 at today's Olympia would displace the top 10 in any year of the 90s aside from Dorian Yates, Ronnie Coleman, couple other MAYBE could sneak in. Put Hadi next to soggy glutes Flex Wheeler and you'd see the difference real quick
@@thebodybeatdownDiTi So what. His thighs are completely out of Proportion to his calves. He has no symmetry. Wide Waist and small arms. Lol. Conditioning sucks aswell
All the difference is lightning hadi looks much better