1999 Mr. Olympia vs 2013 Mr. Olympia *Ronnie Coleman vs Phil Heath*

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  • @_VX_
    @_VX_ 5 місяців тому +46

    _They are the 2 best and the 2 best genetics in the sport combined, the only thing that separates them is the structure, Coleman's structure is much better and makes him look bigger because Because of his width, his width would make him beat Phil on stage._

    • @zachlinder93
      @zachlinder93 5 місяців тому

      2001 Arnold Ronnie Coleman is comparable to 1999…slightly better in some aspects, slightly worse in others

    • @jpperera00745
      @jpperera00745 5 місяців тому +2

      Best structure vs Best muscle bellies

    • @Gnybr
      @Gnybr 5 місяців тому

      Don't disrespect the original mass monster like that

    • @zachlinder93
      @zachlinder93 5 місяців тому

      @@Gnybr who is disrespectful of who?

    • @Gnybr
      @Gnybr 5 місяців тому

      @@zachlinder93 He's disrespecting Dorian Yates

  • @usmantariq6494
    @usmantariq6494 5 місяців тому +51

    99' 03' Ronnie will be unbeatable! Period .

    • @Jen-rm4gx
      @Jen-rm4gx 5 місяців тому +1

      1998 too

    • @manduheavyvazquez5268
      @manduheavyvazquez5268 5 місяців тому

      😂😂😂😂 no. With that gut and gyno no.

    • @usmantariq6494
      @usmantariq6494 5 місяців тому +6

      @@Jen-rm4gx I believe 99' Ronnie beats 98 Ronnie in that context! 03' Ronnie beats all Ronnie's and 99,03' Ronnie beats everyone ever to step foot on stage.

    • @cncaliguy09
      @cncaliguy09 5 місяців тому

      '01 Arnold was his best, better than '99 Mr. O and more aesthetic than inhuman '03.

    • @Jen-rm4gx
      @Jen-rm4gx 5 місяців тому

      1998 is definitely up there too

  • @Gnybr
    @Gnybr 5 місяців тому +41

    Ronnie was 256 in 99 and Phil was 242 in 13

    • @gigithebird2151
      @gigithebird2151 5 місяців тому +4

      Thank you for letting us know their exact stage weights

    • @nocapproductions5471
      @nocapproductions5471 5 місяців тому +7

      Phil is shorter

    • @paulcox2447
      @paulcox2447 5 місяців тому +3

      @@nocapproductions5471 he also has a much smaller frame. His frame was small next to Kai and Jay and Ronnie was bigger than both in frame size. Ronnie crazily enough has smaller joints! You can see it in the most muscular in particular. Ronnie had both top tier muscle and bone structure.

    • @nocapproductions5471
      @nocapproductions5471 5 місяців тому

      @@paulcox2447 i wouldnt say Phil has a small frame, he is just a noticeably shorter man than was Ronnie. Ronnie got shorter with age and injuries but I think he was 180cm or 5'11 in his prime which is very big for a top level bodybuilder

    • @welanduzfullo8496
      @welanduzfullo8496 3 місяці тому

      HE IS SIGNIFICANTLY SHORTER

  • @noonevincecarterfan
    @noonevincecarterfan 5 місяців тому +13

    It's closer than I thought but I'll still give it to Ronnie.

  • @WesleyAPEX
    @WesleyAPEX 5 місяців тому +1

    9:17 Donald Trump?

  • @tonygoshive785
    @tonygoshive785 5 місяців тому +7

    The best vs the best. It’s hard to give a victory here, but I’d say if I really have a put a finger on, it’d be Ronnie. His rear lat was just fcking stunning. He’s wider than Phil. So..

  • @starforcefighter
    @starforcefighter 5 місяців тому +6

    I remember Ronnie Coleman saying at the start of his career that he felt small at 220 lbs compared to Flex Wheeler at 220 lbs, because Flex full muscle belly gave the illusion of him at 235-240 lbs on stage. Incredible with the hard work he was able to put on high quality muscle size over the years. That being said Phil is similar to Flex Wheeler & probably 25-30 lbs lighter than Ronnie, he is hanging with Ronnie pose to pose competitively. End of the day, I go with Ronnie with his bigger & Wilder structure.

  • @WesleyAPEX
    @WesleyAPEX 5 місяців тому +3

    6:54 the striations on the triceps and back of Phil is insane

  • @thebodybeatdownDiTi
    @thebodybeatdownDiTi 5 місяців тому +30

    Phil gets side tricep and side chest..thats it..some close shots but Ronnie will never be defeated overall..EVER..

    • @daviesugo7641
      @daviesugo7641 5 місяців тому +6

      Saying ever will lead you to fanaticism

    • @ytsux9259
      @ytsux9259 5 місяців тому

      I will!

    • @CarmenCao11
      @CarmenCao11 5 місяців тому

      Backshots too

    • @nocapproductions5471
      @nocapproductions5471 5 місяців тому +2

      Ever? In few decades when new gen of roids come out, he will be defeated

    • @light-qe3gv
      @light-qe3gv 5 місяців тому +1

      And bdp, and most muscular.. 💀🥶

  • @ethanpispas4098
    @ethanpispas4098 5 місяців тому +2

    Phil is UNBELIEVABLY strong from the side because it takes width out of the equation, so his signature 3D looks make him incredibly dominant. That would be true for ANY era. In the rest of the poses, he wouldn't do that well in the current era, or the 90s, because structure and width is/was held in very high esteem, while in the 2010s it became a lot about the fullness and the 3D look. Ronnie wins easily, and it would have been even more of a landslide victory if they ACTUALLY appeared together on stage.

  • @konstantinturkin6639
    @konstantinturkin6639 5 місяців тому +2

    Its all subjective. For me personally PHD is better.

    • @MikeG82
      @MikeG82 5 місяців тому

      No it isn’t subjective at all, judging criteria is objective and Ronnie takes it easily

  • @fatboy5926
    @fatboy5926 5 місяців тому +2

    I just think if Ronnie 99 were standing next to Phil on stage he’d just be too big too wide. Phil would more than hold his own he was a freaking beast - Phil was able to beat and dominate bigger wider guys with his thickness completeness fullness all those qualities Phil has - but next to Ronnie all of a sudden he’s be next to a guy who’s bigger wider - but also has those Phil qualities of fullness completeness etc. I’d say Ronnie wins but it would have been freaking amazing

  • @venom999333
    @venom999333 5 місяців тому +2

    Shows over with the 1st pic! Coleman wins 🏆

  • @balitzky
    @balitzky 5 місяців тому +2

    In this comparison Ronnie is 1st however best back double biceps pose ever belongs to Phil.

  • @xIMxMCLOVINx
    @xIMxMCLOVINx 5 місяців тому +3

    Super competitive matchup but Ronnie still undefeated

  • @KhanhLe-zy1iy
    @KhanhLe-zy1iy 5 місяців тому +18

    One of Ronnie’s toughest matchup

  • @EuropaWill
    @EuropaWill 5 місяців тому +2

    Phil's back double bi is insane. Same for Ronnie's rear lat spread. Holy crap.

  • @josephohrablo4866
    @josephohrablo4866 5 місяців тому +4

    You guys saying Phil beats Ronnie in any rear shots are absolutely delusional . The back difference is double . They both are peeled insane in glutes and hams . But Coleman looks like Phil’s after pic in rear shots

    • @recontv6276
      @recontv6276 5 місяців тому +1

      Thank God you're no judge

    • @josephohrablo4866
      @josephohrablo4866 5 місяців тому

      @@recontv6276 Phil health is half the width of Coleman and Coleman was harder in most bodyparts then Heath . No way in hell prime heart beats prime Coleman

    • @recontv6276
      @recontv6276 5 місяців тому

      @@josephohrablo4866 lol Phil's back is harder than Ronnie's. Again, thank God you're no judge

  • @woahblackbettybamalam
    @woahblackbettybamalam 5 місяців тому +4

    Lol the ending

  • @giovannyc3886
    @giovannyc3886 5 місяців тому +5

    Phil wins this one. Better balance better flow, better posing and presentation, equal conditioning

  • @josephohrablo4866
    @josephohrablo4866 5 місяців тому +2

    1998 , 1999 Olympia Coleman and 2001 Arnold classic Coleman are literally unbeatable from any bodybuilder ever

  • @markjosephbarbosa6374
    @markjosephbarbosa6374 5 місяців тому +1

    He(coleman)didn't look bigger in the second pic because the cam angle was off, also tilted quite a bit and was leaning way too forward, whereas phil was taken head on. That shit makes a lot of difference. Also you give credit to phil's calves a lot when his calves don't look that much better than coleman's from the front.

  • @avocado6779
    @avocado6779 Місяць тому

    I love phil heath 2013 its a 50/50 on who had the most gifted body for bodybuilding and the the best package.
    Ronnie wins the back poses. Those hamstrings and black ass crack is pure 100% african dried and peeled.

  • @larrywerdeniuk-dm7cj
    @larrywerdeniuk-dm7cj 5 місяців тому +1

    Lee Haney. G.o.a.t.

  • @richbarsantichannelrichtv_p.t.
    @richbarsantichannelrichtv_p.t. 5 місяців тому

    Ronnie aveva indubbiamente un telaio più ampio sia per altezza che per clavicole ma l’effetto 3d di Phill gli permette di reggere abbastanza il colpo nonostante i molti kg in meno.Entrambi leggende del bodybuilding,preferisco Heath perché non ha avuto il bisogno di diventare un mass monster per essere competitivo e vincente. Addome punto debole per entrambi,Ronnie aveva una asimmetria nel dorsale sinistro che nel tempo è peggiorata,per me il divario è meno grande di quanto si possa immaginare

  • @TheBigMan920
    @TheBigMan920 5 місяців тому +6

    Man I thought Phil was going to do better but Ronnie simply is too much. The GOAT!

  • @reytejero4732
    @reytejero4732 5 місяців тому +3

    There can only be one 🤴 King

  • @MrAwak3
    @MrAwak3 Місяць тому

    Phil was great. 1999 Ronnie Coleman is the best bodybuilder who ever stepped on stage.

  • @0ptimal
    @0ptimal 5 місяців тому +1

    Great matchup. A rare legit opponent to the king. Phils muscle was more fluffy, great detail but more inflated, whereas ronnies was also detailed as heck and as dense as it gets. Love both but ronnie reigns supreme

  • @phamchithien
    @phamchithien 5 місяців тому +2

    Coleman more massive and more muscle quality. but what ever muscle phil has they are just so full its insane

  • @MattGaetzOnAWhiteFordBronco
    @MattGaetzOnAWhiteFordBronco 5 місяців тому +1

    *_"Ronnie was a bit lean in 1999"_* 😂 mofo weighed 256 lbs!

  • @recontv6276
    @recontv6276 5 місяців тому

    You made Ronnie extra massive in back latsread look at them calves bigger then Phil's

  • @Tyler1330
    @Tyler1330 5 місяців тому +1

    I may be wrong Marx but I believe they shifted the Mr. O contest over 2 days in 2006. Maybe 2005 as well not sure. 2003 & 04 were prejudging morning then night show (ie 1 day) and years before that. Not 100% sure about early, but all Ronnie's wins were in 1 day events. Also why in 2006 coach Chad N. brought him so full for the prejudging knowing he had the rest of the day & next day till evening to dry him out. (Sadly Ronnie was too injured then regardless).

  • @GustavoRodriguezRealEstate
    @GustavoRodriguezRealEstate 2 місяці тому

    You said it best!! Phil is perfect and Ronnie a monster!!!

  • @jumpbodyfitnessjbf870
    @jumpbodyfitnessjbf870 5 місяців тому +1

    he is leaner than phil and lost only 2 shots in my opinion

  • @kevinsho2601
    @kevinsho2601 5 місяців тому

    Phil was the closest you could get to beat a prime coleman. Anybody else is just a joke

  • @royvillarosa5852
    @royvillarosa5852 3 місяці тому

    Coleman has a worst structure . With a huge bubble gut and unpleasing abs gap

  • @TheBigMan920
    @TheBigMan920 5 місяців тому

    How about 02 Ronnie vs 2020 Phil? Neither are their best

  • @ytsux9259
    @ytsux9259 5 місяців тому +1

    I've never seen anyone's badonkadonks like Coleman's. Lol

  • @cr-fitnessvlogs5530
    @cr-fitnessvlogs5530 5 місяців тому +17

    FDB :- Ronnie
    FLS :- Ronnie
    Side chest :- Phil
    Back Double :- Ronnie
    BLS:- Ronnie
    Side Tri:- Phil
    Abs & Thighs :- Ronnie
    Most muscular:- Pretty tight but Slight edge to Ronnie

    • @asadhts2271
      @asadhts2271 5 місяців тому +1

      what, abs ronnie most muacular ronnie😂

    • @teenoi8913
      @teenoi8913 5 місяців тому +5

      Side chest ronnie allday allnight

    • @qnp1236
      @qnp1236 5 місяців тому +1

      id give phil the rls and mm

    • @gigithebird2151
      @gigithebird2151 5 місяців тому +3

      Most muscular is pretty easily Ronnie

    • @Kermit46
      @Kermit46 5 місяців тому

      Phil wins pretty easily you casuals

  • @GustavoRodriguezRealEstate
    @GustavoRodriguezRealEstate 2 місяці тому

    Is a draw !!! 4 poses to 4 poses!!

  • @reinhardmeisel8695
    @reinhardmeisel8695 Місяць тому

    Ronny ist ja im Verhältnis kleiner.

  • @Imperialbbuilding
    @Imperialbbuilding 24 дні тому

    Phil wins 4 shots

  • @soroushnek
    @soroushnek 5 місяців тому +2

    Front double maybe Ronnie
    Front lat Ronnie
    Side chest Phil
    Back double Phil
    Back lat Ronnie
    Side tricep Phil
    Abs close can go either way
    Most muscular no competition for Phil

    • @soroushnek
      @soroushnek 5 місяців тому +1

      So Phil would win and i don't care about Ronnie's riders

    • @josephohrablo4866
      @josephohrablo4866 5 місяців тому +1

      @@soroushnek lmao Ronnie riders . Phil could never beat Ronnie . Especially in any rear shot . Rear double , rear lat and rear relaxed all Ronnie easily .

    • @soroushnek
      @soroushnek 5 місяців тому

      @@josephohrablo4866 that was a nice joke, rider 😂😂

    • @MikeG82
      @MikeG82 5 місяців тому +1

      You are blind if you think
      Phil takes this, he wins side tricep only

    • @josephohrablo4866
      @josephohrablo4866 5 місяців тому

      @@MikeG82 it’s not even close lol Coleman annihilates Phil

  • @wyattguidetti708
    @wyattguidetti708 5 місяців тому

    This honestly makes me wanna see a 2011/2013 phil heath vs. 99' Finland grand prix/97' uk grand prix kevin levrone

  • @Soturie3
    @Soturie3 5 місяців тому +1

    Gunnar Rosbo vs Markus Ruhl

    • @Soturie3
      @Soturie3 5 місяців тому

      Or flex Lewis vs Markus ruhl same height

    • @Geckoliga
      @Geckoliga 5 місяців тому

      that would be amazing, but Gunnar never turned pro ...

  • @recontv6276
    @recontv6276 5 місяців тому +3

    4 ronnie 5 Phil

  • @kevinharkins6186
    @kevinharkins6186 5 місяців тому

    The middle of Phil's abs looks like Mr Burns coming out of the wood in The Springfield Files

  • @radurotar4833
    @radurotar4833 5 місяців тому +1

    5-3 to Phil

    • @radurotar4833
      @radurotar4833 5 місяців тому

      Phil: front double, side chest and tri, back double and abs and thighs
      Ronnie: front and back lat spread and most muscular

    • @radurotar4833
      @radurotar4833 5 місяців тому

      More than surely Ronnie would have dwarfed Phil at any point on stage, so minimal chances for Phil to have ever beat him

  • @sahan6996
    @sahan6996 5 місяців тому

    side chest Coleman all day. peeled and size just forget the way he's hitting that leg

  • @MeesterJ
    @MeesterJ 5 місяців тому

    Coleman wins Side chest as well. Look how much better his chest is in that pose. The delts as well

  • @faqyh1277
    @faqyh1277 5 місяців тому

    Phil heath weakness is narrow shoulder ,ronni coleman 1999 theres no weakness

  • @zeesher
    @zeesher 5 місяців тому +5

    Phil wins side triceps. Everything else Ronnie wins

  • @AndrewATP
    @AndrewATP 5 місяців тому

    Natural Phil heath vs frank zane

  • @michaelangelokapirig6151
    @michaelangelokapirig6151 5 місяців тому

    Colemanites vs The Philistines

  • @phamchithien
    @phamchithien 5 місяців тому

    coleman build look more powerful and phil heath looks like we was growth in lab, overall i would prefer coleman

    • @hitmanx200
      @hitmanx200 5 місяців тому

      That’s a good way to put it, but when you see guys that size in real life they all look like complete lab grown freaks of nature

  • @tristanfarbig6067
    @tristanfarbig6067 5 місяців тому +2

    I do like this Special bicep peaks- but overall- Phil got the better arms

    • @f16airforce
      @f16airforce 5 місяців тому

      Non flexed=phil
      flexed=ronnie

  • @Orlando592
    @Orlando592 5 місяців тому

    This is out of context, but this is the first time I’m this early 👍

  • @amaym2324
    @amaym2324 5 місяців тому

    فل هيث فى كل الاوقات

  • @nealkelly9757
    @nealkelly9757 5 місяців тому +1

    Yeah, I've got Phil winning, sorry fanatics

  • @germanrud9904
    @germanrud9904 5 місяців тому +1

    This just seems like personal preference, Phil is better shaped, better conditioned head to toe. You can tell video creator is just a Coleman fan.

  • @fatboy5926
    @fatboy5926 5 місяців тому +1

    I could give Ronnie the abs and thighs actually - but personally…. I think I’d give Phil the rear double 🙊

  • @chrissuponcic5181
    @chrissuponcic5181 5 місяців тому +1

    Phil wins side triceps but that's it, Coleman had one of the best side chest shots in history

    • @recontv6276
      @recontv6276 5 місяців тому

      Choosing his chest over Phil's big man chest is nobrainer

  • @manduheavyvazquez5268
    @manduheavyvazquez5268 5 місяців тому +2

    Phil all day …..Ronnie the king gut gyno Coleman sucks.

    • @josephohrablo4866
      @josephohrablo4866 5 місяців тому +1

      Coleman had no gyno and no gut in 99. Heath couldn’t beat any version of Coleman . Let alone 99 lol

  • @andreiarama8745
    @andreiarama8745 5 місяців тому +5

    For me the winner is Phil because he can still enjoy his life after retiring

  • @krokodilvomnil5327
    @krokodilvomnil5327 5 місяців тому

    Front relax - Coleman
    Fdb - Coleman
    Fls - Coleman
    Sc - Coleman
    St - phil
    Bls - Coleman
    Bdb - Coleman
    Abs - Coleman
    Mm - Coleman

  • @fatboy5926
    @fatboy5926 5 місяців тому

    I’ve seen a few other people give Phil the side chest - I couldn’t do it. Yes Phil’s leg from the side looks better (maybe it’s actually better maybe he is just holding the leg part of the pose better - either way it looks better) but the rest of the pose? Nah Ronnie thickness through the chest and arms are too much. I can’t give it to Phil. As I comment the side tricep comes up - no contest Ronnie takes it….. 🤣 jokes Phil is dominant in the side triceps not just against Ronnie but against just about everyone it’s damn near perfect

  • @RDYOUTUBE54
    @RDYOUTUBE54 5 місяців тому

    Are you serious? Phil gets the side chest? Did you not even look at the chest? The arms? The shoulders? The striations Ronnie has everywhere? Its not even close. You judge the side chest by the side leg and don't even look at the chest? It's called side chest not side leg

  • @stelisc9326
    @stelisc9326 5 місяців тому +8

    Ronnie wins front doubble by 2 points
    Ronnie wins front lat by 2 points
    Side chest is a tie
    Phil wins side triceps by 2 points
    Ronnie wins rear lay by 1 point
    Rear doubble is a tie
    Ronnie wins abs and thigh by 1 point
    Ronnie wins most muscular by 1 point
    Ronnie wins 7 to 2
    Ronnie is unbeatable, even by phil

  • @thoughtrover6400
    @thoughtrover6400 5 місяців тому +1

    Coleman doesnt lean back at the lat spread. Thats why it looks like phil is not to far away. But with modern posing coleman would look twice as big as phil

  • @kanwarsinghgill1298
    @kanwarsinghgill1298 5 місяців тому

    Ronnie all the way. Phil Doesn't stand a chance.

  • @Mrbreak777
    @Mrbreak777 5 місяців тому +2

    6 points for Phil and 3 for Coleman

  • @Gnybr
    @Gnybr 5 місяців тому

    Marx don't disrespect Dorian Yates like that mentioning Ronnie and Phil the greatest of all time! Even Jay 01 would easily beat 13 Phil.

    • @at3955
      @at3955 5 місяців тому

      agreed with 2 best ronnie and phil the gift

  • @sackychin6267
    @sackychin6267 5 місяців тому

    Ronnie wins every pose but side triceps

  • @SmokeLPSD
    @SmokeLPSD 5 місяців тому

    You lost me when you gave side chest to Phil. Bye!

  • @asadhts2271
    @asadhts2271 5 місяців тому +1

    phil 5
    ronnie 4