Moscow Massacre: How Will Russia Respond?
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- Опубліковано 10 чер 2024
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In this video, we’re going to look at what we know so far; how it’s a symptom of ISIS’ recent resurgence; and why this puts Putin in an exceptionally difficult spot.
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0:00 Intro
0:54 What Happened in Moscow?
2:32 ISIS’ Resurgence
4:31 How Will Putin React?
7:39 Sponsor
How will Putin blame Ukraine?
Yes.
Do you think the guys whom were beaten were the real perpetrators or just poor scapegoats?
@@hydoffdhagaweyne1037
I honestly don't know. I saw a video of the Russian police forcing one of these guys to eat his own ear. I will honestly say that if you did that sort of thing to me, I'd confess to anything, and blame anybody else. The half a million rubles thing doesn't make a lot of sense. That isn't actually very much money for doing something like this. It seems like the kind of thing somebody would confess to in order to make the torture stop.
The interrogation the Russians have put these guys through makes everything they say automatically unreliable.
I guess the only thing I would really trust at this point is footage from the event where you can see their faces or the suspects saying something later corroborated which the police/FSB could not have known at the time.
@@hydoffdhagaweyne1037 It doesn't really make sense why they would be running towards Ukraine anyway, nor does it seem plausible that they would just surrender to the police just like that. Islamic extremists would either kill themselves or try to cause as much damage before they get caught, not plea for mercy.
On the other hand, Russia probably could have blamed some Ukrainians in order to escalate the war in Ukraine but they didn't. They still tried to say they were bought by Ukraine yet I don't think anyone but the most extreme Nazis in Russia believed it.
@@user-uf4rx5ih3vThey don't know how much the Americans know, who warned them, and they don't want to emberrass themselves further.
As long as we can't identify the shooters, we have to assume it was an FSB false flag, the start of new a wave of FSB "Islamic" terrorist attacks across Europe.
@hydoffdhagaweyne1037 if you know better tell us, since you run a surveillance satellite. If not keep quiet.
They already blamed Ukraine
They even blamed MI6….
They did not, they said Ukraine was involved in organising an escape for the terrorists which is highly likely considering Ukraine considers Russia a terrorist state. They most likely payed the terrorists
@@Srbenda126 Sometimes you have to ask yourself "why?" in nonsensical answers like yours. Why would the Ukrainians pay ISIS to massacre a hundred-and-thirty-three civilians instead of just spending the money on drones to attack refineries?
@@Srbenda126 I doubt the terrorists are linked to Ukraine they have Patriot missiles that can reach into Russia to hit targets they want. Why would they need to use terrorists to attack civilians.
I bet that will piss off ISIS and they continue their attacks to make sure no one is getting confused about who done it..
They not just blamed Ukraine, they already bombed it. They shared a photos of missiles with writing "for Crocus Hall", with which they destroyed power station in the second largest city of Ukraine - Kharkov. Where, noteably, population is mostly russian speaking people.
They are protecting the Russian speaking people from the evils of the West by cutting their electricity and internet. No more degenerate propaganda from the West.
I mean, they were already bombing it, anyway. So makes little difference.
You sure defended the native Russians from oppression, Putin. /s
That's from the 2001 census, 23 years and a brutal 2 year war will likely have made it notably less Russian speaking.
@@robertrussell5856It’s still Russian Majority, before the war you could GK there and most people spoke Russian there.
If the Taliban says you've gone too far, you need to reconsider your life choices
Since they retook power, Taliban is doing everything to appear friendly and good guys.
Russia and the Taliban are allies, with russia welcoming them on multiple occasions. Not that surprising to see the Taliban react to the attack from ISIS, who are quite literally their enemies, on their ally.
Taliban and ISIS-K actually have beef over religious grounds, as ISIS are Salafists, who were suppressed by the Taliban regime in the 90's.
Putin took a side in the Sunni Shia divide and it's come back to bite him.
Taliban says the West has gone too far with giving women rights
3:13 You know they're beyond radical when they attack the TALIBAN for not being radical enough.
From Isis' perspective, the Taliban are the radicals. Just because they're both Sunni majority, doesn't mean they believe the same thing. The same way that not all christians believe the same thing, not all protestants believe the same thing, not all orthodox are the same etc.
I've had sunni friends and I can tell you that their beliefs are completely different from the Taliban or ISIS.
So the Taliban saying that ISIS is too radical is no surprise.
Catholics and Protestants are like Sunni and Shia, same faith different offshoots.
Regardless - I find it baffling that in Islam there are people who are ready to kill for not being radical enough, no other faith does that. @@JustAnotherAccount8
@@JustAnotherAccount8I believe he did not mean it that way but that it is shocking someone is apparently more radical than the Taliban, something that was never even believed to be possible.
@@JustAnotherAccount8 Its not the same way that christians dont believe the same thing. Methodists dont arm themselves and and go attack the local Baptist church. These are black flags from khorasan, muslims should know what that means. Go seek the mahdi, he is there.
Taliban after fighting western koalition for 20 year are the “moderate” ones🤔
I fear the ones who think Hamas are too soft in the future😢
>Doesn't prevent problems
>Problems come
>Blame on enemy
Worked for hundreds of countries
I think every single country tried this at least once in their history
If you don't think the CIA was involved, you're an idiot.
The EU with the migrant crisis
The Soviets used this, America used this, the Germans used this, Napoleon used this, in other words basically everybody used this strat
@@khlapshere you are talking about israel, financing hammas and making it stronger, and while knowing about the attack they did'nt do anything and sacrificed their own citizens, even killed some of them with their own planes, and at the end use this to justify commiting genocide and massacring +35000 innocent civilian. and commiting all types of war crimes on the rest. even after this idf is losing the military war against hammas, achieving nothing at the end except war crimes and blood shreding.
The police were 1.5 hours too late. Let Putin explain that.
And that's with prior warning.
Russian false flag operation to blame Ukraine
Sounds like America
Somehow Ukrainians stopped them
there so many bizarre things happened in this attack that it seems so similar to the apartment bombings during the early days of Putin and 2nd chechen war. sounds like a conspiracy but Putin himself is a conspiracy.
*Moscow gets attacked*
Moscow police: “you hear something?”
Putin "yes I was warned but just laughed at the advice "
The Taliban condemns terrorism and standing up for human rights? Who are these people?🤣🤣
Radicals just so happens who have beef with ruZZia
We live in a... severely wacky timeline
"Human Standards" they purposely avoided Human Rights for a reason but yeah, weird times we live in.
Soon the Taliban wants to be called by its pronouns, they will hold mass lgbtq rallies and scream very loud at any enemies from a distance After that they will go loot some stores with BLM supporters before going back home and try to cancel ISIS and any other infidels by boycotting their terrorist rings on Instagram.
These guys went in expecting to get shot within minutes but after half an hour found themselves - to their own bewilderment - still alive with all objectives reached and no police in sight. They had to improvise an escape plan.
Lmao this wouldn't be surprising.
They could have also had a wild hope that Ukraine would greet them in to thank them for their "service", completely oblivious to the fact that Ukraine has nothing to gain in planning or helping with civilian terrorism, and that they would never ever have opened their gates to these terrorists.
That's believable. Ukraine had nothing to do with the attack whatsoever, but terrorists likely believed "The enemy of my enemy is my friend", not paying attention that Ukraine does not fight that way.
Russia is a fascist police state. How were they supposed to get to Ukraine through the most militarized border regions of the russian federation with countless check points? Even thinking, Ukraine was in any of their plans is stupid.
Good point
Except it makes no sense for SUICIDE squads to accept money.
The FSB director is blaming the UK US and Ukrainian.
So basically the organizations that is supposed to prevent this stuff ignore information from the US and UK that chatter was picky up that something was going to go down. Is blaming everyone but themselves .
the US warning them and Putin brushing it off is pretty embarrassing... seems like he's dobling down as well
Why would Russia believe anything the US had to say?
Do you think the US would've believe if Russia or China warn them about a potential terrorist attack ? My guess is no, they would've probably taken that's a threath
"Ukraine opened a border window"... right 😂
Someone should tell Putin that there are massive minefields and troop concentrations on both sides. They were more likely on their way to Belarus. Yes the route they were on also connects to Belarus.
I wonder if that will matter to the Russians watching it on TV. I don’t know how many questions Americans asked whenever their politicians wanted to go to war I imagine it will be a similar number to the amount the Russians ask😂 Europe and America walked around the planet trying to force everyone to use their money well now you’re going to reap what you sow
I've heard this one as well. Also BS. How do Ukrainians manage to get in and out after they've done their drone attacks?
You lot going to parrot what next, exactly?
Also Putin basically admitted that the border with Ukraine is weak. If there is an open window then it means Russian security is also not present
Isis probably is so sad. Imagine doing all of this and russia just ignores you
I saw a dark humor post about that saying imagine how angry the extreme Islamist must feel to do all that hard work only to see all the credit given to a Jew
@@luisf2793 al qaeda was at one point angry iran presiden for saying 9/11 was inside job. Reality often weirder than fiction.
"ok was isis.. but they were cought bringing lgbt ukrainian coronavirus, and escaping in an otan pedal boat in azov sea!"
Do you think the 4 guys whom were beaten were the real perpetrators or just poor scapegoats?
TBH i have no idea, but i wouldn't be surprised if we give them choice now between saying on vid they were mandated from ukraine, or drink a cup of that tasty pollonium tea..@@hydoffdhagaweyne1037
@@hydoffdhagaweyne1037 4 poor scapegoats that match the shooters willing to be beaten up and shown on national TV and imprisoned for life without telling the world it wasn't them, and that Russia, the US and ISIS were all in on?
what absolute nonsense are you on about? you genuinely make flat-earthers look rational in comparison.
@@hydoffdhagaweyne1037 My money is on them being 4 random guys they either yanked off the street or already had in custody for something else.
@@peaceable263If they wanted to blame Americans or Ukrainians they wouldn't arrest some Tajik brown people now, would they?
Isis-K attacking the Taliban for not being "pure" enough... I know this is no laughing matter, but I'm getting serious People's Front of Judea vs. Judean People's Front vibes here.
No surprise there. The Rhodesian Bush War was not only fought between the Rhodesian security forces and the two Commie rebel groups but also between those two Commie rebel groups (One is backed by Moscow and is Marxist-Leninist, the other is backed by Beijing and is Maoist). Those two Commie rebel groups spent the last days of Rhodesia's existence fighting each other over control of Rhodesia..
Putin has already blamed Ukraine. He's talking nonsense about a "window" on the border, even though it's a six and a half hour journey from Moscow to the Ukrainian border, during which you would almost certainly have to stop for fuel.
They were approaching the Belorussia transparent border with no windows needed.
@@OlesMenzer Exactly. It's all nonsense.
They're going to let ISIS get away with it for the sake of continuing the war with Ukraine. What a ridiculous country.
@@OlesMenzer If they were apprehended on the M3 highway near Katsun as the FSB claims, they may have intended to take the P120 loop around Bryansk and the A240 highway to Homiel in Belarus.
What I’m wondering is, are the guys they’re parading on russian TV actually the perpetrators or are they just some really unlucky schmucks who got randomly snatched up as scapegoats?
very likely...probably made one false comment on social media, liked the wrong dude or said something in public. Russia is a police state, they were already a target, 100%.
well moscow is so full of cameras that these perpetrators faces are all over the place, even the vehicles they rode and everything they wore.
Not to mention they were wearing body cams and posted the footage. It’s absolutely them, or some *incredibly* unfortunately similar looking guys.
@@jamesroot4958 i haven’t seen the cam footage, you’d say it’s likely them? That makes me feel a bit better. Imagine having this crime pinned on you.
I was also curious about that, typically these terrorist don’t really plan to survive the attack. So hearing they escaped was a surprise to me
When I heard that Russia quickly arrested 11 people half of me was wondering if this was just a mass arrest so that the FSB could save face
That’s the thing with torture, they will tell you what you want to hear, but there is no guarantee that it’s true
Putin: stubs toe
“DAMN THAT UKRAINE”
Ukraine planted toe stubber there
Blame it on Ukraine, CIA and MI6. 🤣🤣
How can you commit a terrorist act no police but protest putler and 100s of police show up.
Too busy with vodka
@@hoze1235 меньше пейте
В России нет оружия у охраны.
Теперь вам понятно ?
@@Lady_in_blackMsk same in the UK
@@somethinglikethat2176 да? Я думала только в России нет оружия 😁
You sould expect russian bot attacks in the comment section
Gay
@@ChristopherFodorHA!! you like your own comment 😂
@@ruZsiaNa-C but I didn't. Now I did tho
@@ChristopherFodor yes you did.. i even saw your other post that in 1 minutе, you liked it 🤣 desperation
@@ChristopherFodor Bot exposed
Again, Russian security are good at suppressing defenseless civilians, but afraid to get shot by those gun men.
Title correction:
How had Putin reacted to moscow massacure.
Thank you very much for the video from Odesa, Ukraine
The question is not will Vlad blame Ukraine. It's what "history lesson" will we get from him.
In 500 bc ooga booga founded the novgorod settlement
@@hoze1235 LOL Thank you for the "his"tory lesson, Uncle Vova.
So... as you probably knoe all the way back during the big bang, earth was formed and glorious russia controlled everything....
In the beginning God give the world to russia but russia nice coubtry so it share it with everybody.@@rubenssilva6902
In this case, the answer was given before the question was asked.
in a normal country he would have to resign, but it's his russia and he can afford delusional threats and playing the blame game, which of course wouldn't backfire
Did Bush resigned after 9/11?
ISIS: We Did it...
Putin: Ukraine
False flag, or not, two major questions stands open:
1. In Moscow, capital of the Russia, country in war, home of Russian security services, where on mention of an antiwar subject, one is summoned and arrested, group of uniformed and armed people, walks in concert hall, where over 6000 people gathered and for over 30 minutes, unchallenged by any government force, executes civilians.... HOW?
2. After almost an hour, of unchallenged massacre, they walks out and leaves the area, without any stops in and around Moscow (emergency check points...)... HOW?
Боже ,зачем писать если ты не живет в этом стране и не знаешь как там все устроено ?
В России нет оружия у охраны . Абсолютно нигде . Чем ты будешь отбиваться от человека с автоматом ? Молитвой ? Еще раз подчеркну в России нет настоящего оружия у охраны . Только дубинка . Более того жертв было бы больше если бы один русский мужчина руками не обезвредил одного таджика с автоматом . Когда он перезаряжал автомат . У него было пару секунд .
В России легко переехать всю страну и никто тебя не остановит. Их поймали военные на границе.
@@Lady_in_blackMsk Ok, guards don't have weapons, despite evidence that most events are massively secured with special police forces (recently a friend was on football match Russia-Serbia). And for almost an hour nobody could come with weapons? Все еще рассчитываете поверить?
@@dankodnevic3222 Москва это гигантский город . Это группа музыкальная не популярная . Я даже не слышала о такой группе никогда . Столько полиции нет в городе сколько этих «звезд музыкальных» Понимаете ?
Еще в пятницу все дороги забыты автомобильными пробками . Поэтому полиция ехала 1 час . Дороги стоят . Они выбрали самое хорошо место. Этот торговый центр стоит за городом на дороге в поле . Образно пишу . Туда не проехать в час пик
@@Lady_in_blackMskrussian troll🤡
@@dankodnevic3222Not every event is secured. Football matches are high-density and terror attacks are more effective there. The truth is, Russia's intelligence agencies got pretty good at liquidating terrorists before they have the chance to stage an attack, so nobody expected it to happen in the first place. For reference, the last major terror attack happened 20 years ago.
"They attacked the taliban for not being sufficiently islamist"
This is a frightening demonstration of just how deep their ideological hole goes.
Thank you.
Out of incompetence comes opportunity
0:27 "it quickly became clear". Clear to who? The russian state department?
Why assume so much Russian honesty when they have reason to lie about every aspect of this terror attack?
The number 1 likes in Reddit Comment Sections, is that Russia forgot that the part of Ukraine that the supposed terrorist wanted to escape was in Russia's possession, so Russia backtracked and said some of them go to Belarus to go to Ukraine, but the word is already out.
lol what? didn't know Russia re-conquerd Sumy oblast and Chernigov oblast, off to go edit the map😁
Nah he will "blame Canada"
I believe they were driven to the location in the forest near Bryansk, so that the Kremlin could create a story about them.
I can't imagine....
The irony of the us warning Russia about this is that iirc Russia warned the us in 2013 about the guys that hit the Boston marathon
Because russians did it
Putin the master strategist 🤣
Master strategist with an unfathomable ego
Yesterday news, he has already blamed Ukraine
If a 10.0 earthquake occurs in Russia and if a meteor hits afterwards, it would surprise me if Putin _doesn’t_ blame Ukraine.
"Damn it, Dimitri, stop that hardcore Slav dance!"
Allegedly Ukraine "trained" the terrorists and granted them asylum.
First of all, what kind of training does a terrorist need? They got in there and shot civilians. That's is. Why would Ukraine need to train them?
Second of all, why would Ukraine grant terrorists asylum? That would be the worst PR ever.
Of course he will.
He's been looking for any excuse to do general mobilization and this gives him the excuse he's been looking for.
Sometimes Listen To Your Enemy..
Spoiler alert: They did that already
IT TOOK ONE HOUR TO RESPOND! ONE(1) HOUR, you literally can't make this shit up
It was less, the ambulances were there in mere minutes and the Police force was there in 20 minutes, which is acceptable time
@@ALMAZ157only acceptable in ruzzia 😂
The President of Belarus said they were actually heading to his country, but they detoured when there was too much security at the border.
The question is not "will he blame" but "how he will blame"
The second question is, they allowed it or they did it themselves
Russian false flag operation to blame Ukraine
They already cyberattacked a ship to bridge 😢
Death Toll has gone up.. a lot.
In other news; Is grass green? Is the sky blue? Is snow white?
Do we change our FB filters to Russian flags after this attack? Im so confused
Or ISIS-K? Maybe they are just resisting.
Don't be silly the BBC hates all Russians
No.
4:27 (Jawdrop)
We don’t worry about the truth anymore, but about what will be Russia’s truth.
Guys i love your videos, but the intro is WAY too loud. Pls turn down the volume of the intro.
Hasn't he already done so?
It is just the beginning for Putin and Russia
From tajikistan?
US: “Hey Russia! Look out! ISIS is targeting you!”
Putin: “Don’t listen to them. They’re trying to blackmail us!”
ISIS: “Yeah! Don’t listen to them! We’d never do something like… NOW!”
Does a bear shizzle in the woods?
Putin needs to blame Ukraine, in my opinion, Russians are getting weary of the war in Ukraine and the loss of many sons, husbands and brothers...
Did he alredy did it?
Remember, No Russian
😂
In Putin blaming Ukraine, it will seem to other players that the Kremlin is either myopically distracted or grossly undermanned in their security, inviting other actors.
Putin played too much MW2
How do you get more extremist than the taliban?
The Taliban merely "persecute" Shias while ISIS mass murders them. The Taliban have talked with the US and Russia which ISIS considers heresy. The Taliban want relations with China while ISIS has attacked Chinese in the region.
He already did.
Wow, I'm early
It’s the people who cry “why Russia” - how ignorant are they
What will they do - start a war?
He would be stupid not to...
Polonium tea?
He already has, by inference... total and very amateurish set up. by the Russians.
Hi
If Russia hadn’t made itself a pariah state, the solution could be to announce intentions to launch a comprehensive multinational antiterror program. Unfortunately for Putin, the CSTO (Russia’s NATO equivalent) has never been more disjointed and there are few other Russia-friendly states that could believably participate in such a project with a meaningful level of contribution.
He will "convince" those prisioners to sing the Ukrainian anthem!
First and foremost, issuing a warning to a country about a potential terrorist attack at a large gathering and then branding it as a colossal security failure when it occurs is absurd. Credible threats typically come with specific time and location details; without this information, such warnings hold little significance, especially considering that countries are perpetually on high alert. Additionally, it's unjust to place Putin in a precarious position over this matter. It's a national tragedy, and the entire nation will rally behind Putin to combat terrorism. Comparing this situation to Bush's aftermath of 9/11 or Blair's response to 7/7 , very different narrative, that’s our team in west so let’s rally behind them
Russia has like 3 cities, all of them west of the Urals, and it happened next to a national guard base. It's not like anything important goes on in 9 of their 11 timezones.
Quite thin information spread over 9 minutes..
All my cursed brain can think about when I hear Isis K is an Islamist cereal brand.
Why would Putin care what people think?
Anyways - Putin can just go with the normal CIA explanation if he needs it any.
Right , why doesn't he admit to his public " I am incompetent was warned but did and nothing apart from laugh at the advice "
Because he doesn't need a side show with ISIS-K, while he is dealing with Ukraine. People will only get distracted who they should hate today. 😂
He wants to use this as an excuse for general mobilization
and deflect blame after being warned about the threat from isis and laughing it off.@@lazyautomation3481
Will Putin blame Ukraine? He already does. 🤷🏼♂️
Well, duhuh.
“Remember, no Russian!”
Мы русские дойдем и до вас
@@Lady_in_blackMsk За два года до конца Авдеевки ели дошли. Давайте гои, идите дальше так же)
@@andrii5693 еще не время
By blaming Ukraine or Israel 😂
Bit of an insensitive thumbnail, lads. People died.
makes a change eh normally if the weather is bad its Putin's fault
Why not, he's Putin
You mean like how we blamed Russia for the pipeline disaster?
Russia actually did that though.
@@usul573They claimed the U.S. did it.
There’s also no benefit for them to destroy their own pipelines.
How did US know?
One assumes spying, US has had operatives within terrorist organisations for years and this is without the US also spying on other nations. When you have a massive surveillance and contact network around the world you're bound to learn of the odd terrorist attack or 2.
i dont get it. what were isis mad enough at russia for to do that?
Nobody likes isis both the us and Russia have actively been fighting against isis
Remember No Russian
The thumbnails on this channel usually are late to the game. But this one takes the cake. Ukraine was blamed, the very moment this Attack happened. 😂
it was so obvious they would blame ukraine to be more brutal in the war
Tajikistan’s Extreme Conservatism?? “..Tajikistan is one of the most conservative and Islamic countries in the world??!!”
This is blatantly, embarrassingly false. Do your research.
Putin got another excuse
A nice and fuzzy recollection of who was responsible is important for Russia. Its also been stated by Russian official media that the US funds ISIS, which is odd considering that Russia & US fought side by side against ISIS in Syria (partly why the 2014 Russian annexation of Crimea wasn’t strongly opposed by the Obama administration). The current Russian narrative is that the US & NATO are already fighting in Ukraine, by aligning all Russia’s enemies as controlled by Washington plays well in Russia and in anti-Ukraine circles within the US, where MAGA supporters blame Zelensky for Trump’s first impeachment vote, after Trump blackmailed the Ukrainian president on Zalensky’s inauguration. As illogical as it sounds, people with certain beliefs, based on political alignment, will only hear the parts of the story they want to hear.
Uk and USA they are saying
ISIL was the group in Syria and Iraq.
Will a woman blame her husband for her consistent unhappiness despite being given all of the resources?