Editors Note: Couple of corrections. I accidentally said Keith had won 2 Cups, when of course, he's won 3. I also mistakenly said Kucherov finished 2017-18, second in points, when he was third in overall scoring. Thanks for not destroying me in the comments.
I would say this was overall a pretty solid list. Though I think a few honorable mentions would have been nice for players that missed out only because of a strong draft class: (immediately Eric Staal and Malkin come to mind) I also think lots of these choices are really tough. Karlsson vs Stamkos especially... Stamkos was the second best goal scorer post lockout other than Ovi until his leg injury. He had 51, 45, 60, and 29 goals (lockout shortened 48 game season) prior to the injury. In his injury shortened season, he scored 25 goals in 37 games for another 50 goal pace season. Post injury, Stamkos has at his best scored 43 goals, but the last two years has become a very good playmaker with Kucherov. Would not be surprised if the Lightning manage to win a few cups and Stamkos gets compared to Steve Yezerman as both have had similar career arcs going from the scorer to the team player. (Yzerman's career high was 65 goals and 150 points in 88-89, when adjusted to era Stamkos's 60 goal 97 and point season in 11-12 is far better). Time will tell if the rest of his career can hold up, but so far looking good.
Yay let's jump on the hype train... We have absolutely no idea who will be the best player from the 2017 draft. Yes Pettersson is great right now but he hasn't even played a full season yet. And maybe there is a player that will make the NHL in the next years and play better than the others from this draft. What we can say at this point is that Hischier and Pettersson are the only ones that look like elite players right now...
Really impressive list and research done. Some disagreements: Jagr in 1990 Forsberg in 1991 Bergeron in 2003 Bäckström in 2006 Hedman in 2009. (Tavares crowning achievements are during his junior career. His Hart nomination happened when he was 17th in scoring) Hall in 2010 (Arguably) Gaudreau in 2011 Forsberg in 2012 Not knowing what the future holds, but I think that Elias Pettersson becomes the best player out of the 2017 class.
Obviously, Jagr and Brodeur was a close call for 1990. I called Niedermayer the best of 91 because in most cases, I'd rather take a #1 Dman over a forward, even one as good a quality as Forsberg. Peter's shortened career affects his status too. Bergeron and Geztlaf was another close call in 2003. Thanks for sharing your thoughts here, Marcus.
Just curious. With the argument of taking a 1D over a forward, why Tavares over Hedman? Forsberg was a much better player compared to his peers than Tavares has shown so far, and Hedman is a arguably much better defenseman than Niedermayer (specially in his own zone). I personally find Niedermayer a bit overrated in these lists. He played most of his career on a defensive juggernaught in New Jersey (which he was a contributing factor to, but far from carrying), and his Conn Smythe should probably have been awarded to Pronger had he not been given a meaningless 1 game suspension. I think Niedermayer was a fine defensemen, and a deserving Hall of Fame inductee, but I dont hold him in the elite tiers of Pronger, Lidström, Bourque of his era.
Watching this now, it’s kinda funny how quickly things can change in just a couple of years. Like imagine having Monahan in the same conversation as MacKinnon now. And Karlsson falling off a cliff from injuries while Stamkos stays PPG too
Great video and well done. Nice to know I'm not the only one who does the re-drafts. I only had three differences to your list. 1982 - I had Gilmour at #2 behind Hall of Fame defenceman Scott Stevens who won 3 Stanley Cups, Conn Smythe winner, and 13 time All-Star. 1983 - Steve Yzerman - judging by the comments a lot of people agree with this one. 2003 - Patrice Bergeron - This was the toughest year to pick. Bergeron, Getzlaf, Eric Staal all could have been #1 as well as Marc-Andre Fleury.
Hasek is the GOAT goalie. No question. He almost won the cup by himself (and ahem "the Sabres"), and really only lost it on a goal that should have been disallowed anyways. Just imagine if he'd been on a good team.
Good video from start to finish. Naturally, there will be disagreements. But, keep up the insightful work. Perreault is one of the many players I would've like seeing with a Cup ring.
Elias Pettersson broke Pavel Bure's Canucks rookie record with 28 goals/38 assists for 66 points in only 71 games and will likely win the Calder Trophy. This kid's hockey IQ and the way he thinks the game on an elite level to go along with his amazing hands and creativity is special. When he builds strength and grows into his 6' 2" frame, "Dekey Pete" will be a dominant player in this league.
Don't be surprised if he isn't. He'll be good no doubt, but great first half rookie seasons are more common than you'd think. The second half teams started paying attention to him and his scoring went way down. And i mean WAY down. But time will tell.
Getzlaf over Fleury? What you smokin bro? .913 career sv% 5 Stanley cup finals, 3 cups, almost 2 to 1 win/loss ratio. Fleury is the best of that awesome class.
1980: Coffey/Messier was the best player, not Kurri 1982: You might be able to make a case for Gilmour based on where he was taken, but I'd say Housley probably edges him out. 1983: Yzerman by a country mile 1986: Brett Hull If you want to be taken seriously, do a little homework.
For anyone arguing that Jagr is better than Brodeur. Just no. Best goalie of all time IMO, and goalie's are much more valuable than wingers. For everyone saying it's because of the team he was on, Jagr only won cups with Lemieux, and Brodeur even took a garbage Devils team to the finals in 2012. The Devils certainly don't win 3 cups without him, and the Pens absolutely win back to back cups without Jagr considering he wasn't even in his prime at that time. Jagr would go second and that shouldn't even be a debate.
It’s Sharpie he came in from the wha when the two leagues merged. He would’ve been picked first overall but the oilers made a deal with the nhl that they could keep Gretzky but they would get the last pick in the draft. They picked Kevin Lowe with that pick and he also became really good.
11:56 kind of have to agree to disagree with your 1990 draft pick. That year might be a tie with Brodeur and maybe another guy that goes by the name of Jaromir Jagr that was drafted 4th over all that year.
Jagr was drafted 5th overall in 1990, oc beezilla and glenn d, you dumbasses. Clearly you never learned how to proof read your work in school. As an aside, I purposely did not capitalize your names out of lack of respect.
I don't think Brodeur is better than Jagr. Jagr is one of the top 5 players of all time Brodeur got lucky with an amazing team in front of him he is not even top 10 all time
Fair enough Steve. I would argue Brodeur made the Devils into a Cup contender for years. No team ever wins the Cup without a strong examination of the goaltender and Brodeur passed each time. Thanks for commenting and watching.
Yeah and poor old Jagr only had Lemieux as a team mate.Your comment makes very little sense.Brodeur is the number one in just about every category that matters as a goalie.Wins and shutouts (his shutout record will never be broken).YEAH Brodeur got "lucky" most every night.I was going to ask you to name your choices as goalies before him but you appear to know very little about the sport.Brodeur not even top ten LMFAO. Just say no to meth next time.
Right now, I think the Tavares thing is too close to call. It's 50/50 Toronto and Long Island. I'm not a fan of Pittsburgh giving Johnson all that money and all that term. He's a bottom pair Dman and I don't see how he helps them. Also not a fan of the money and term LA gave Kovalchuk. I think he's dead weight by year 3, perhaps even by his second year. Although I think his first year will be good. Thanks for watching.
I think that from 1980 Paul Coffey was better than Jari Kurri 1983 also had Steve Yzerman 1984 had Patrick Roy 1987 had Brendan Shanahan From 1990 it's really tough to choose betwen Martin Brodeur and Jaromir Jagr From 1994 Patrik Elias is also worth a mention 1999 also had Henrik Zetterberg
Tough call, right? World class winger vs world class goalie. You can't win without great goaltending and Brodeur won more than anyone. That's why he's the best player from the 1990 draft. Thanks for sharing your opinion though, Eitan.
I agree with Jagr over Brodeur. Brodeur was a great goalie, but he clearly benefitted from facing about 12 shots per game including three quality ones. Between the stifling Devils defensive system, tolerance for clutch-and-grab hockey, the awarding of wins for overtime and an 82-game season, his wins total shines a little less brightly. That stifling system was led by Scott Stevens and Scott Niedermayer, who yourself claim to be better than both Eric Lindros and Peter Forsberg. Brodeur was the beneficiary of all of that. Jagr, on the other hand, was being dragged down by the defensive tactics of the era, had mediocre help after Mario retired the first time, and still was putting up great numbers.
My list from between 1995 to 2018 first overall pick redraft: 1995 first overall pick: Jarome Iginla 1996 first overall pick: Zdeno Chara 1997 first overall pick: Joe Thornton or Marian Hossa 1998 first overall pick: Vincent Lecavalier or Pavel Datsyuk 1999 first overall pick: Henrik Zetterberg 2000 first overall pick: Henrik Lundqvist 2001 first overall pick: Ilya Kovalchuk or Patrick Sharp 2002 first overall pick: Duncan Keith 2003 first overall pick: Ryan Getzlaf or Corey Perry 2004 first overall pick: Alexander Ovechkin 2005 first overall pick: Sidney Crosby 2006 first overall pick: Jonathan Toews or Claude Giroux 2007 first overall pick: Patrick Kane 2008 first overall pick: Steven Stamkos or Erik Karlsson 2009 first overall pick: John Tavares or Victor Hedman 2010 first overall pick: Vladimir Tarasenko or Tyler Seguin 2011 first overall pick: Nikita Kucherov or Johnny Gaudreau 2012 first overall pick: Matt Murray 2013 first overall pick: Nathan Mackinnon or Sean Monahan 2014 first overall pick: David Pastrnak or Leon Draisaitl 2015 first overall pick: Connor McDavid 2016 first overall pick: Auston Matthews 2017 first overall pick: Elias Pettersson 2018 first overall pick: Rasmus Dahlin 2019 first overall pick: Kaapo Kakko
Have you heard of Elias Pettersson. I understand it’s early for 2017 but you should be basing your best pick on potential. Petterron has way more points per games played. His body is still under weight and it’s his first year in NHL. Just my option.
80 Paul Coffey 83 Steve Yzerman 90 Jaromir Jagr (of course) 91 if not Lindros, Peter Forsberg 06 Nicklas Bäckström 12 Filip Forsberg 14 Leon Draisaitl 17 Elias Pettersson
I agree with almost everything except Coffey and Pettersson. Because Coffey wasn't very good defensively and because this video was made at the time when Elias didn't spend a second on the nhl ice. Although currently he is miles away from Hischier. Elias will go down as the best pick from the 2017 nhl draft
1969 Bobby Clarke 1970 Gilbert Perreault 1971 Guy Lafleur 1972 Bill Barber 1973 Denis Potvin 1974 Bryan Trottier 1975 Dave Taylor 1976 Bernie Federko 1977 Mike Bossy 1978 Viacheslav Fetisov 1979 Ray Bourque 1980 Paul Coffey 1981 Chris Chelios 1982 Scott Stevens 1983 Dominik Hasek 1984 Mario Lemieux 1985 Joe Nieuwendyk 1986 Brian Leetch 1987 Joe Sakic 1988 Teemu Selanne 1989 Nicklas Lidstrom 1990 Jaromir Jagr 1991 Scott Niedermayer 1992 Alexei Yashin 1993 Chris Pronger 1994 Daniel Alfredsson 1995 Jarome Iginla 1996 Zdeno Chara 1997 Joe Thornton 1998 Pavel Datsyuk 1999 Henrik Zetterberg 2000 Henrik Lundqvist 2001 Ilya Kovalchuk 2002 Duncan Keith 2003 Patrice Bergeron 2004 Alex Ovechkin 2005 Sidney Crosby 2006 Nicklas Backstrom 2007 Patrick Kane 2008 Drew Doughty 2009 Victor Hedman 2010 Taylor Hall 2011 Nikita Kucherov 2012 Morgan Rielly 2013 Nathan MacKinnon 2014 David Pastrnak 2015 Connor McDavid 2016 Auston Matthews (so far) 2017 Elias Pettersson (so far)
1 year later from the 2018 draft Rasmus Dahlin played 82 games 9 goals 35 assists for 44 points and a minus 13 with 34 pim . Among rookies from 2018 in that years draft he had decent numbers . But Andrei Svechnikov who was next up had also 82 games 20 goals 17 assists for 37 points a 0 in plus minus with 62 pim . Who will stand out from the 2018 draft ? only time will tell !
I would argue that taylor hall is better than seguin. Sure he was trash in edmonton, but aside from mcdavid which one of their multiple 1st overall picks wasnt. As soon as he was traded to the devils hes been putting up crazy numbers and revealed his true potential. Imo a top 3 winger in the world, while seguin although he is a fantastic player is only top 10 center in the world
Poor Minnesota. That was a great draft and they get Brian Lawton. Notice how the Red Wings back in the 70s and 80s always picked the wrong guy. We ended up trading for a few of those flops picked first overall by other teams,too. We used to be a horrible team. Lol.
Interesting list and I appreciate the research you did. While Lawton was disappointing, I'd go with Stefan or Yakapov as the worst ever #1. Neither had much worth
My only complaint about this video is its no unbiased based on teams choices of draft picks. It very easy to see if you like a team or not...having an unbiased approach would have been nice.
There are a few close calls but obviously I cannot agree with 1990...Jagr was on the same level with Gretzky and Lemieux. Elite generation player. I dont even think Brodeaur is all-time top3 GK
Fair enough Milan. Although I don't agree with you. I feel Jagr is more than just a step below Wayne, Mario, Bobby and Gordie when you talking about the GOAT. Thanks for watching.
Gretzky was never drafted by the NHL, Bourque edges out Messier for 1979, Fedorov is below Sundin and Listrom for 1989, and Keith Tkachuk would be behind at least Brodeur and Jagr for 1990. And yes, the Sedins were drafted 2 and 3 in 1999.
@@semiretired86 In 1978, he was signed to a personal services contract as a 17 year old by the Indiana Racers, undrafted, in the WHL. He was then traded to Edmonton and signed to another personal services contract (10 years, $3M total) before they were in the NHL. Edmonton was one of the teams that moved to the NHL when the WHL folded, and Gretzky was one of the Oilers protected players for the expansion draft. He was not drafted by any NHL team in 1979 because they knew they had no shot of signing him due to the type of contract with the Oilers and the fact that he was guaranteed to be protected. No sense in wasting the pick.
Wolf Daddy Tavares was allowed to play as a 14 year old in the OHL. The usual age for the OHL and the CHL in general are 16-21 years old. Tavares, McDavid, Ekblad and Sean Day are the only players to have been granted "exceptional" status in the OHL(after Tavares, it was only 15 year olds granted the status). Joe Veleno was given exceptional status in the QMHJL as well.
The OHL didn't have that "Exceptional Status"rule in play in the 60s. But Orr's influence was already so great that the Boston Bruins bought the Whitby Dunlops and moved them to Oshawa so Orr could play as close to home as possible. You'll never see that again.
I wouldn't take Toews, he is super overrated imo. Without Kane on his team to win him cups he would never have been considered a top 50 player in the NHL
wtf are you talking about Toews is probably the most complete player in the game right now. Dude is underrated if anything and I fucking hate the Blackcocks
@Shawnaldo75 Toews has 1 season where had a minus and it was a -1. Kopitar has 6 seasons as a minus and Bergeron also only has one but he was -28 and for most of their careers Toews has outscored him.
Re-re draft 2017 no doubt will be Cale Makar... as a Flyers fan it's sickening we drafted Nolan Patrick @ 2 when perhaps the best-scoring defenseman of this era was available 2 slots later in Cale Makar, who barring injury, undoubtedly will be a HOF'er :-///
Cups define team skill, not individual skill. Toews is an average player who happened to be named captain of a team with people like Hossa, Kane, Seabrook, Keith, all of whom are a lot better than Toews.
Pierre Turgeon and the Isles would have won the Cup w/Islanders' 1) Had he not been blindsided by Dale Hunter 2) If Kerry Fraser didn't miss the too many men on ice call by Montreal just before they scored the game-breaking & series-breaking go ahead goal in the Conference Finals The deck was stacked vs Islanders and their miraculous 1992-1993 NHL season Clearly a superb coaching performance by RADAR- Al Arbour that playoff year If not his best coaching year ever Pushing all the right buttons at the right time Line combos/mix-matching every player A MASTER OF HIS CRAFT !
Editors Note: Couple of corrections. I accidentally said Keith had won 2 Cups, when of course, he's won 3. I also mistakenly said Kucherov finished 2017-18, second in points, when he was third in overall scoring. Thanks for not destroying me in the comments.
I would say this was overall a pretty solid list. Though I think a few honorable mentions would have been nice for players that missed out only because of a strong draft class: (immediately Eric Staal and Malkin come to mind)
I also think lots of these choices are really tough. Karlsson vs Stamkos especially... Stamkos was the second best goal scorer post lockout other than Ovi until his leg injury. He had 51, 45, 60, and 29 goals (lockout shortened 48 game season) prior to the injury. In his injury shortened season, he scored 25 goals in 37 games for another 50 goal pace season. Post injury, Stamkos has at his best scored 43 goals, but the last two years has become a very good playmaker with Kucherov. Would not be surprised if the Lightning manage to win a few cups and Stamkos gets compared to Steve Yezerman as both have had similar career arcs going from the scorer to the team player. (Yzerman's career high was 65 goals and 150 points in 88-89, when adjusted to era Stamkos's 60 goal 97 and point season in 11-12 is far better). Time will tell if the rest of his career can hold up, but so far looking good.
You also said rick Nash is a center
TopCornerHockey go back to Africa!
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Elias Pettersson will be known as the man who should've gone 1st overall in 2017. Mark my words
Hischier >>>
Hirscher is not close to Pettersons skill level.
Yay let's jump on the hype train... We have absolutely no idea who will be the best player from the 2017 draft. Yes Pettersson is great right now but he hasn't even played a full season yet. And maybe there is a player that will make the NHL in the next years and play better than the others from this draft. What we can say at this point is that Hischier and Pettersson are the only ones that look like elite players right now...
"Mark my words" dude we knew for like 3 months now that's hea clearly the best stop tryna act smart lol.
@@mr.devil9577 McDavid will be one of the best players in the upcoming years, mark my words
Really impressive list and research done. Some disagreements:
Jagr in 1990
Forsberg in 1991
Bergeron in 2003
Bäckström in 2006
Hedman in 2009. (Tavares crowning achievements are during his junior career. His Hart nomination happened when he was 17th in scoring)
Hall in 2010
(Arguably) Gaudreau in 2011
Forsberg in 2012
Not knowing what the future holds, but I think that Elias Pettersson becomes the best player out of the 2017 class.
Obviously, Jagr and Brodeur was a close call for 1990. I called Niedermayer the best of 91 because in most cases, I'd rather take a #1 Dman over a forward, even one as good a quality as Forsberg. Peter's shortened career affects his status too. Bergeron and Geztlaf was another close call in 2003. Thanks for sharing your thoughts here, Marcus.
Just curious. With the argument of taking a 1D over a forward, why Tavares over Hedman? Forsberg was a much better player compared to his peers than Tavares has shown so far, and Hedman is a arguably much better defenseman than Niedermayer (specially in his own zone).
I personally find Niedermayer a bit overrated in these lists. He played most of his career on a defensive juggernaught in New Jersey (which he was a contributing factor to, but far from carrying), and his Conn Smythe should probably have been awarded to Pronger had he not been given a meaningless 1 game suspension.
I think Niedermayer was a fine defensemen, and a deserving Hall of Fame inductee, but I dont hold him in the elite tiers of Pronger, Lidström, Bourque of his era.
Marcus Wolin Gaudreau can‘t keep up with Kucherov(although it is close)
@Shawnaldo75 Sry for using the wrong words, I only meant to say that kucherov is better.
Marcus Wolin nah bud Erik Walli Walterholm is gonna be the gem of the 2017 draft.
Pavel Datsjuyk was a steal of century on those drafts.
Watching this now, it’s kinda funny how quickly things can change in just a couple of years. Like imagine having Monahan in the same conversation as MacKinnon now. And Karlsson falling off a cliff from injuries while Stamkos stays PPG too
Pettersson not nico
Justin N too soon to say
Pettersson got drafted in 2017
91 is Forsberg man. No doubt about it
How can you pick only one Sedin? They are best pick together!
Great video and well done. Nice to know I'm not the only one who does the re-drafts. I only had three differences to your list.
1982 - I had Gilmour at #2 behind Hall of Fame defenceman Scott Stevens who won 3 Stanley Cups, Conn Smythe winner, and 13 time All-Star.
1983 - Steve Yzerman - judging by the comments a lot of people agree with this one.
2003 - Patrice Bergeron - This was the toughest year to pick. Bergeron, Getzlaf, Eric Staal all could have been #1 as well as Marc-Andre Fleury.
Awesome video man! Enjoyed every minute
Thanks! That means a lot to me!
I might take Steve Yzerman over Hassek. But both way better than Lawton.
Hasek is the GOAT goalie. No question. He almost won the cup by himself (and ahem "the Sabres"), and really only lost it on a goal that should have been disallowed anyways.
Just imagine if he'd been on a good team.
Not to mention Lafontaine, Neely barrasso and a bunch of other all stars
Sabres fan here and yes Yzerman over Hasek all day long.
@@MultiCappie I wonder if Hasek had been on a good team if he'd have the individual hardware and accolades he got with Buffalo...
@@simon-nak8403 I agree LaFontane
Brodeur was great but am I totally wrong when I make a case for te ageless wonder Jaromir Jagr being the best Player from the 1990 draft?
1983 best pick was Steve Yzerman.
Great video!!! You shared tons of stats, no biggie if a few get mixed up. Still awesome.
The story of Bryan Berard is tragic he was gonna be a huge star
where would you put Kirill Kiprosov from the 2015 draft compared to where he was drafted? just wondering
Good video from start to finish.
Naturally, there will be disagreements.
But, keep up the insightful work.
Perreault is one of the many players I would've like seeing with a Cup ring.
Very fun video. I really enjoyed watching this!! Good job!
Thanks, dude!
Killer video. Loved seeing classic Dougey in there.
When parents say, "STOP WATCHING YT AND DO SOMETHING EDUCATIONAL!" Us "Uh...I'm learning about hockey." They get mad since they can't yell. XD
Glad to hear I'm helping. Thanks for watching.
when was nash ever a centre?
2006 - Nicklas Backstrom. Highest scoring player that year, one of the purest passers in NHL history and has proven he can carry a team at times.
Elias Pettersson broke Pavel Bure's Canucks rookie record with 28 goals/38 assists for 66 points in only 71 games and will likely win the Calder Trophy. This kid's hockey IQ and the way he thinks the game on an elite level to go along with his amazing hands and creativity is special. When he builds strength and grows into his 6' 2" frame, "Dekey Pete" will be a dominant player in this league.
Don't be surprised if he isn't. He'll be good no doubt, but great first half rookie seasons are more common than you'd think. The second half teams started paying attention to him and his scoring went way down. And i mean WAY down. But time will tell.
Getzlaf over Fleury? What you smokin bro? .913 career sv% 5 Stanley cup finals, 3 cups, almost 2 to 1 win/loss ratio. Fleury is the best of that awesome class.
getzlaf > fleury
1980: Coffey/Messier was the best player, not Kurri
1982: You might be able to make a case for Gilmour based on where he was taken, but I'd say Housley probably edges him out.
1983: Yzerman by a country mile
1986: Brett Hull
If you want to be taken seriously, do a little homework.
Messier was drafted. 1979 third round
1980 Mark Messier
1983 Steve Yzerman
1986 Brett Hull
I could list more but I have a life.
This guy is not even close.
Brett Hull was drafted in 1984 (same as Lemieux, Roy and Robitaille)
I also think with some of the European players not going higher in their drafts because teams were afraid the players might not come over.
Just give it time Elias Petterson will be the best guy from his class just watch some of his tape
Turns out you appear to be correct sir.
No GM would draft Andersen 1st overall even with what they know now. Forsberg.
Or Rielly
For anyone arguing that Jagr is better than Brodeur. Just no. Best goalie of all time IMO, and goalie's are much more valuable than wingers. For everyone saying it's because of the team he was on, Jagr only won cups with Lemieux, and Brodeur even took a garbage Devils team to the finals in 2012. The Devils certainly don't win 3 cups without him, and the Pens absolutely win back to back cups without Jagr considering he wasn't even in his prime at that time. Jagr would go second and that shouldn't even be a debate.
What year was Wayne drafted or was he undrafted
Undrafted
I should say he was more of free agent he came over from the WHL
It’s Sharpie he came in from the wha when the two leagues merged. He would’ve been picked first overall but the oilers made a deal with the nhl that they could keep Gretzky but they would get the last pick in the draft. They picked Kevin Lowe with that pick and he also became really good.
Sat out the '79 draft citing his contract with peter pocklington. In all reality... he likely didn't want to be drafted by Colorado
@@ChannelyChannel WHA.
If Pastranak was never injured in 2018-19, he would’ve definitely had 50 goals and 100 points
How was sakic a 3 time all star. Did you mean to say 13 possibly? .going to have to look that one up.
11:56 kind of have to agree to disagree with your 1990 draft pick. That year might be a tie with Brodeur and maybe another guy that goes by the name of Jaromir Jagr that was drafted 4th over all that year.
7th Overall not 4th
glenn d I'd say it's a tie
Jagr is way better than Brodeur
5th overall
Jagr was drafted 5th overall in 1990, oc beezilla and glenn d, you dumbasses. Clearly you never learned how to proof read your work in school. As an aside, I purposely did not capitalize your names out of lack of respect.
6:43 Kurri won 5 cups, not 4.
I don't think Brodeur is better than Jagr. Jagr is one of the top 5 players of all time Brodeur got lucky with an amazing team in front of him he is not even top 10 all time
Fair enough Steve. I would argue Brodeur made the Devils into a Cup contender for years. No team ever wins the Cup without a strong examination of the goaltender and Brodeur passed each time. Thanks for commenting and watching.
Brodeur is the best goalie of all time though
Brodour us the greatest goalie ever and I'm a habs fan .
Yeah and poor old Jagr only had Lemieux as a team mate.Your comment makes very little sense.Brodeur is the number one in just about every category that matters as a goalie.Wins and shutouts (his shutout record will never be broken).YEAH Brodeur got "lucky" most every night.I was going to ask you to name your choices as goalies before him but you appear to know very little about the sport.Brodeur not even top ten LMFAO. Just say no to meth next time.
Shawnaldo75 Brodeur won gold for canada fyi
Maybe your thoughts on free agency??? Great video keep it up.
Right now, I think the Tavares thing is too close to call. It's 50/50 Toronto and Long Island. I'm not a fan of Pittsburgh giving Johnson all that money and all that term. He's a bottom pair Dman and I don't see how he helps them. Also not a fan of the money and term LA gave Kovalchuk. I think he's dead weight by year 3, perhaps even by his second year. Although I think his first year will be good. Thanks for watching.
I think that from 1980 Paul Coffey
was better than Jari Kurri
1983 also had Steve Yzerman
1984 had Patrick Roy
1987 had Brendan Shanahan
From 1990 it's really tough to choose betwen Martin Brodeur and Jaromir Jagr
From 1994 Patrik Elias is also worth a mention
1999 also had Henrik Zetterberg
Pettersson says in hindsight you should have picked him.
Jagr > brodeur
Tough call, right? World class winger vs world class goalie. You can't win without great goaltending and Brodeur won more than anyone. That's why he's the best player from the 1990 draft. Thanks for sharing your opinion though, Eitan.
TopCornerHockey very true. Both incredible players though
Gotta give it to Brodeur
I agree with Jagr over Brodeur. Brodeur was a great goalie, but he clearly benefitted from facing about 12 shots per game including three quality ones. Between the stifling Devils defensive system, tolerance for clutch-and-grab hockey, the awarding of wins for overtime and an 82-game season, his wins total shines a little less brightly. That stifling system was led by Scott Stevens and Scott Niedermayer, who yourself claim to be better than both Eric Lindros and Peter Forsberg. Brodeur was the beneficiary of all of that. Jagr, on the other hand, was being dragged down by the defensive tactics of the era, had mediocre help after Mario retired the first time, and still was putting up great numbers.
jagr's a top 10 player all time. brodeur isn't. brodeur just played a lot of games behind a stellar defense. roy and hasek were superior goaltenders.
Toss up on 90 being Broduer or Jaromir Jagr. 88 could be Mark Recchi.
Putting Brodeur above Jagr, I stopped watching
laughable..... absolutely laughable.
My list from between 1995 to 2018 first overall pick redraft:
1995 first overall pick: Jarome Iginla
1996 first overall pick: Zdeno Chara
1997 first overall pick: Joe Thornton or Marian Hossa
1998 first overall pick: Vincent Lecavalier or Pavel Datsyuk
1999 first overall pick: Henrik Zetterberg
2000 first overall pick: Henrik Lundqvist
2001 first overall pick: Ilya Kovalchuk or Patrick Sharp
2002 first overall pick: Duncan Keith
2003 first overall pick: Ryan Getzlaf or Corey Perry
2004 first overall pick: Alexander Ovechkin
2005 first overall pick: Sidney Crosby
2006 first overall pick: Jonathan Toews or Claude Giroux
2007 first overall pick: Patrick Kane
2008 first overall pick: Steven Stamkos or Erik Karlsson
2009 first overall pick: John Tavares or Victor Hedman
2010 first overall pick: Vladimir Tarasenko or Tyler Seguin
2011 first overall pick: Nikita Kucherov or Johnny Gaudreau
2012 first overall pick: Matt Murray
2013 first overall pick: Nathan Mackinnon or Sean Monahan
2014 first overall pick: David Pastrnak or Leon Draisaitl
2015 first overall pick: Connor McDavid
2016 first overall pick: Auston Matthews
2017 first overall pick: Elias Pettersson
2018 first overall pick: Rasmus Dahlin
2019 first overall pick: Kaapo Kakko
Why Murray over Vasilevsky?
Okay...... i still play earthworm jim in 2018..... you just got a new subscriber..... good video by the way
1980: Coffey was pretty good too...
Awesome video please do same video but 2nd pick in the draft.
Have you heard of Elias Pettersson. I understand it’s early for 2017 but you should be basing your best pick on potential. Petterron has way more points per games played. His body is still under weight and it’s his first year in NHL. Just my option.
Vancouver fan??
First you speak of potential, then you say he has more points per game....lol
Great video
Thank you so much!
80 Paul Coffey
83 Steve Yzerman
90 Jaromir Jagr (of course)
91 if not Lindros, Peter Forsberg
06 Nicklas Bäckström
12 Filip Forsberg
14 Leon Draisaitl
17 Elias Pettersson
I agree with almost everything except Coffey and Pettersson. Because Coffey wasn't very good defensively and because this video was made at the time when Elias didn't spend a second on the nhl ice. Although currently he is miles away from Hischier. Elias will go down as the best pick from the 2017 nhl draft
Love seeing the Whale represented twice here.
Mel Bridge-man, not Brig-man
1969 Bobby Clarke
1970 Gilbert Perreault
1971 Guy Lafleur
1972 Bill Barber
1973 Denis Potvin
1974 Bryan Trottier
1975 Dave Taylor
1976 Bernie Federko
1977 Mike Bossy
1978 Viacheslav Fetisov
1979 Ray Bourque
1980 Paul Coffey
1981 Chris Chelios
1982 Scott Stevens
1983 Dominik Hasek
1984 Mario Lemieux
1985 Joe Nieuwendyk
1986 Brian Leetch
1987 Joe Sakic
1988 Teemu Selanne
1989 Nicklas Lidstrom
1990 Jaromir Jagr
1991 Scott Niedermayer
1992 Alexei Yashin
1993 Chris Pronger
1994 Daniel Alfredsson
1995 Jarome Iginla
1996 Zdeno Chara
1997 Joe Thornton
1998 Pavel Datsyuk
1999 Henrik Zetterberg
2000 Henrik Lundqvist
2001 Ilya Kovalchuk
2002 Duncan Keith
2003 Patrice Bergeron
2004 Alex Ovechkin
2005 Sidney Crosby
2006 Nicklas Backstrom
2007 Patrick Kane
2008 Drew Doughty
2009 Victor Hedman
2010 Taylor Hall
2011 Nikita Kucherov
2012 Morgan Rielly
2013 Nathan MacKinnon
2014 David Pastrnak
2015 Connor McDavid
2016 Auston Matthews (so far)
2017 Elias Pettersson (so far)
I like your list but I think 03 should be Bergeron instead of Getzlaf
1 year later from the 2018 draft Rasmus Dahlin played 82 games 9 goals 35 assists for 44 points and a minus 13 with 34 pim . Among rookies from 2018 in that years draft he had decent numbers . But Andrei Svechnikov who was next up had also 82 games 20 goals 17 assists for 37 points a 0 in plus minus with 62 pim . Who will stand out from the 2018 draft ? only time will tell !
I will argue 1980 best player was Denis Savard
Got to go with Jagr
How about Paul Kariya?
nice vid man what happened to your channel?
I would argue that taylor hall is better than seguin. Sure he was trash in edmonton, but aside from mcdavid which one of their multiple 1st overall picks wasnt. As soon as he was traded to the devils hes been putting up crazy numbers and revealed his true potential. Imo a top 3 winger in the world, while seguin although he is a fantastic player is only top 10 center in the world
I think Jagr deserves to be above Brodeur.
Poor Minnesota. That was a great draft and they get Brian Lawton. Notice how the Red Wings back in the 70s and 80s always picked the wrong guy. We ended up trading for a few of those flops picked first overall by other teams,too. We used to be a horrible team. Lol.
How do you not take Bergeron over Getzlaf?!
One additional correction. You said chara won the Norris in 2011 when in fact he won it in 2009. Lidstrom won his 7th in 2011.
Wtf did Kane do at 18:17
Hall>Seguin
Interesting list and I appreciate the research you did. While Lawton was disappointing, I'd go with Stefan or Yakapov as the worst ever #1. Neither had much worth
Kucherov on Edmonton, Yakupov Working out,Hall not being traded.... Tell me that's not a better team 😂😂
That’s a pretty sweet hat you have on.
Good picks with Kurri and Selanne
Taro tsujimoto was the ultimate #1 pick
2018...Rasmus Dhalin is good...but Kotkaniemi is gonna be a beast !!
Gtfo.
My only complaint about this video is its no unbiased based on teams choices of draft picks. It very easy to see if you like a team or not...having an unbiased approach would have been nice.
There are a few close calls but obviously I cannot agree with 1990...Jagr was on the same level with Gretzky and Lemieux. Elite generation player. I dont even think Brodeaur is all-time top3 GK
Fair enough Milan. Although I don't agree with you. I feel Jagr is more than just a step below Wayne, Mario, Bobby and Gordie when you talking about the GOAT. Thanks for watching.
Brodeur was not a better goalie than Roy or Hasek.
no Gretzky? no Moose? no Fedorov? no Kieth Tkachuck?
were the Sedins drafted at the same time?
Gretzky was never drafted by the NHL, Bourque edges out Messier for 1979, Fedorov is below Sundin and Listrom for 1989, and Keith Tkachuk would be behind at least Brodeur and Jagr for 1990. And yes, the Sedins were drafted 2 and 3 in 1999.
how did Gretzky than end up in the NHL?
@@semiretired86 In 1978, he was signed to a personal services contract as a 17 year old by the Indiana Racers, undrafted, in the WHL. He was then traded to Edmonton and signed to another personal services contract (10 years, $3M total) before they were in the NHL. Edmonton was one of the teams that moved to the NHL when the WHL folded, and Gretzky was one of the Oilers protected players for the expansion draft. He was not drafted by any NHL team in 1979 because they knew they had no shot of signing him due to the type of contract with the Oilers and the fact that he was guaranteed to be protected. No sense in wasting the pick.
and he was never traded
@@semiretired86 who was never traded?
First time commenting ever 1992 Sergey Gonchar over three times Selke winner Jere Lehtinen, in my opinion the best Finn in NHL
Ever
my dad knew chris phillips he was stick boy and chris phillips played for the oil barrens
What do you mean when you say John Tavares was given exceptional status in the OHL?
Wolf Daddy Tavares was allowed to play as a 14 year old in the OHL. The usual age for the OHL and the CHL in general are 16-21 years old. Tavares, McDavid, Ekblad and Sean Day are the only players to have been granted "exceptional" status in the OHL(after Tavares, it was only 15 year olds granted the status). Joe Veleno was given exceptional status in the QMHJL as well.
So does this mean that Bobby Orr would have gotten exceptional status? He started playing got the Oshawa Generals as a 14 year old
The OHL didn't have that "Exceptional Status"rule in play in the 60s. But Orr's influence was already so great that the Boston Bruins bought the Whitby Dunlops and moved them to Oshawa so Orr could play as close to home as possible. You'll never see that again.
How about Jagr as the best of 1990 ?
By far
I'm a Maple Leafs fan since the 70's but I agree that as good as Wendel Clark was he doesn't compare to Joe Nieuwendyk, not a knock at Clark but....
18:06 Nash wasn't a center
Can’t argue with most
I would have Backstrom > Toews
I wouldn't take Toews, he is super overrated imo. Without Kane on his team to win him cups he would never have been considered a top 50 player in the NHL
Steve Ott yeah their line is unstoppable
Wait...
wtf are you talking about Toews is probably the most complete player in the game right now. Dude is underrated if anything and I fucking hate the Blackcocks
But Steve up there thinks that Brodeur was just lucky and is not even top ten lmfao so that should explain his strange babblings.@@thekillers1stfan
@Shawnaldo75 Toews has 1 season where had a minus and it was a -1. Kopitar has 6 seasons as a minus and Bergeron also only has one but he was -28 and for most of their careers Toews has outscored him.
@Shawnaldo75 it's literally the only stat that measures defensive responsibility...
I think jagr was the best in the 1990 draft
Re-re draft 2017 no doubt will be Cale Makar... as a Flyers fan it's sickening we drafted Nolan Patrick @ 2 when perhaps the best-scoring defenseman of this era was available 2 slots later in Cale Makar, who barring injury, undoubtedly will be a HOF'er :-///
Backstrom> Toews
-Wings Fan- Unbiased Opinion
Flynner toews is a leader and a better play imo
Nicolas Lahky Stats aren't the be all end all. Toews 3 Cups as captain. Backstrom 1. Toews was the right pick
Cups define team skill, not individual skill. Toews is an average player who happened to be named captain of a team with people like Hossa, Kane, Seabrook, Keith, all of whom are a lot better than Toews.
I considered that, for sure. Thanks for watching.
Not too loud or quiet. Hangover cure for sure with good content
Hahaha! Glad you liked it.
Montreal drafted Guy Lafleur with California's pick lol
Flower is definitely the best in 03
Matthews vs Laine So hard to choose today
Not so hard now tho
How do you not mention Marner? He is the best player of that year, he stays healthy all year and racks up points.
You realize that is the same year as McDavid? And Marner may not even the best winger of that draft...Rantanen could be argued.
They were the oilers of the 80’s wow as an oilers fan i cant even disagree with that lol
Neidermeyer before Forsberg in 1991? Really?
Duncan Keith is a 3 time Stanley Cup Champion not 2 time
Rick Nash was a winger, not a centre.
Mel Brigman?
10:05 Pierre Turgeon has 1327 career points
Pierre Turgeon and the Isles would have won the Cup w/Islanders'
1) Had he not been blindsided by Dale Hunter
2) If Kerry Fraser didn't miss the too many men on ice call by Montreal just before they scored the game-breaking & series-breaking go ahead goal in the Conference Finals
The deck was stacked vs Islanders and their miraculous 1992-1993 NHL season
Clearly a superb coaching performance by RADAR- Al Arbour that playoff year
If not his best coaching year ever
Pushing all the right buttons at the right time
Line combos/mix-matching every player
A MASTER OF HIS CRAFT !
Do second overall
I would take Zetterberg over Sedin
Also Giroux over Towes
Tarasenko > Seguin
I wouldn't.
@@hickettsisepic989 giroux over toews? seriously?
gfh he has better numbers
Mel.."Brigman" ...sounds like[BRIDGMAN}
Magic Man is not Datsyuk it is Kent Nilsson