Lesson learned, if you talk yourself out of buying something long enough, a better, more expensive version will come out and you can repeat the process…
@@acidlab9586 1000000% agree!! Appreciated a lot your comment. This is why I bought just few very important gears, and will keep them all my life, because people NEVER MASTER their rig, they just replace them and again and again… We are infinitely lucky to live an era where machines are very, very, very powerful and deep. What it means is we can enjoy them during a whole life before being limited… People’s skills are limited WAY BEFORE their machines… Consumption. Anyway Always the same story, people being lazy with their brain. The best machine we’ve all got.
I used to work for Eventide (Eventide Clockworks back then) in the 70's i.e. the 1745, H910, H949, Phaser, Omnipressor, etc.......to date they still make some of the best signal processing and special effects gear on the market.
@@Screenshot1015 Given its depth, the app is actually quite useful. The H9 is the one pedal I don't leave the house without and the app plays a huge role in that.
@@3rdStoreyChemist connecting it is hard though. At least, with a MacBook. Of course when it works it’s nice to create sounds, load them on the H9 and play with it, but I do miss simultaneously tweaking a mix control and feedback control for instance
All I’m saying is that I owned an H9 max for a while and it became quite annoying to use very quickly. It wasn’t for me and I sold it. I don’t miss it very much at all and I mostly use a DBA Rooms and Zoom MS70CDR in its place. I know they don’t do everything the H9 did but if I hated using the H9 and therefore rarely got it out I don’t really think it matters.
In which case the whole “instrument” is now the combination of instrument and effects. It’s like the old Brian Eno idea of treating the recording studio as an instrument, but massively condensed.
Now this is a real studio unit. Powerful, rich, and pricey. I love it, but where I'm at I would have a hard time justifying the price tag for an effects unit. I get that beginning hobbyists aren't the target though, of course. maybe if I get to a point of making income from it, I could justify the cost on something like this.
Not to sound like a d..k, but wow, that's a lot for a pedal when one can have a, say, Elektron Digitone for less, or a Hydrasynth Desktop for same amount.
@@ssssssssssss885 Actually for 900 you can buy 2 multy effects pedals like Strymon timeline and big sky... Or even 2 pedals with 2 simultaneously active effects on each...
Unfortunately, 3-knob design is far from practical. Eventide should remake 10-knob version for a similar editing experience of factor series pedals. Knob per function is crucial in live electronic music.
I couldn't agree more man. It would be one of the best pieces of gear ever made if it did. Instead I won't even get it. I cannot stand menu diving with anything, period. If I'm leaving software to hardware, one knob per function always or why bother ? Even just 6 knobs would make it worthy...... but no, they went for the gimped version.
After listening to Eventide’s interview on The Guitar Knobs Podcast about the H90 and your demo, I’m massively impressed with Eventide as a company and manufacturer of music gear. This is how you execute a truly improved UI/UX. Excellent video as always. 🤘🏻❤️
Well besides weirdo pedals like the mentioned zoia, there's also a bunch of multi-fx amp pedals like the line6 helix stomp, hotone ampero, boxx gx-100 that can do a lot more than this for less of a price. pitch shifting, harmonizing, delays, reverbs, modulation, overdrives plus amp/cab modeling. also, am i getting this right, the H90 has the DSP power to run 4 algorithms (spillover) but eventide only allows you to REALLY run 2 at a time?
It's expensive but I don't think the price is unreasonable at all, comparable with many other studio quality alternatives. Most people aren't barking that a Strymon Timeline and BigSky combined is outrageous, and I think you're getting far more with this Eventide. Is it essential? For a lot of people probably not, including myself. But I think it's a really solid choice for anyone looking for top notch sound and maximum versatility in a live rig or studio processor.
You might want to listen again to Strymon Reverbs compared to Eventide ones... They are one trick ponies, but sound much richer , clearer and to the point. It's Victorinox vs Bowie knife
Thanks for the video. The H90 looks to be a significant upgrade to the H9. I'll have to start saving for one. I wish they would offer this as a rack mount unit in addition to a guitar pedal. Say, wasn't "Band-delay Industries" mentioned on an episode of Seinfeld?
@@sCealt are you kidding? Damn. I thought it was 899€ as well. I haven’t checked out the new algos yet, but let’s hope the market gets flooded by H9s then, so I can have an extra one
@@skeletonmodel yeah I don't really understand why it's 130% of the US price tbh. But regarding the H9, I saw a lot of them for sale on Reverb this morning hehe :)
I always found the H9 sounded really good but it was not for me due to only one effect at a time. When I read the headline about the new H90, I hoped they would have changed that but yeah.. no, they didn't, actually. It's pretty much the same as getting two H9's previously. It's a shame, that some manufacturers limit their products on purpose and charge premium.
We’re heading into inflation hell and some of these manufacturers (it’s not Eventide by itself by a long shot) now create/release tremendously expensive devices… that’s a bit of a bummer. Yeah, I get they all didn’t see it coming, but it’s a bit jarring.
@@ZenMountain It is not me who is including anyone. That’s being done all over the world due to ‘circumstances beyond my control’. Fact is groceries and fuel have increased in price by about 20% or so. Electricity and natural gas are up around 100%. Same can be said about the other end of the spectrum, like iPhones, iPads and MacBooks. All up by at least 20%. I’ve already been in hell this year. My wife almost died and my mother got an heart attack. Not many good things happened in the world this year. So forgive me for sounding negative. Making music is one of the positives in my life atm. This pedal is great and I would buy it for €999, but not for the €1199 it will be sold for here in western Europe. Not sure where you got that ‘paranoia’ remark from? Negativity… maybe, but paranoia?
Thank you Loopop for this helpful introduction of this effect unit. Glad that I didn’t but the H9. Already ordered the H90. Eventide is just incredible from the sound quality.
Yes its amazing. More of the same. Please dont stop innovating. 4 algos would have been appreciated at that price point. Now please compare it to the ios plugins, 4 in parallel hosted in aum.
Considering the input options and the quality of the algorithms, I don't think there is anything comparable for the money. It is pricey for a digital pedal, but it's one hell of a pedal, IMO.
@@mastermachetier5594 H90 is the Pitch Factor, Mod Factor, Time Factor, and Space rolled into one pedal, and more, so you can get an idea by looking up those other Eventide pedals and comparisons with Strymon and Boss and what not.
That's a wonderful FX unit but man, something kinda funny to me using an FX unit that costs nearly 3x the synth it's connected to. I think I"ll be using my MS-70CDR for a few more years before I can think about something like this 😅
That price comparison is irrelevant and erroneous, H90 wouldn't even be wasted if used on a wee little cheap Volca FM - good effects cost money, and Eventide's various algorithms rolled into one unit will clearly be expensive.
Excellent idea about a firmware update to allow the H90 to act as a mixer for 4xmono inputs, 2x mono and 1 x stereo or 2x stereo. This would make the H90 a instant purchase for me. Also, I would like to say that I wish these multi effect pedals had headphone outs. As I enjoy playing and exploring with very small setups running from a usb power bank. Thanks for the video as always. ✌️
Exactly my point...I had the H9000 for a while and loved meddling in algorithms myself. But this is targeted to guitarists who seemed to be overwhelmed with the classic H90 app already, so they did not want to get into the support business one needs to provide if VSIG is open to all. I asked if we could see a 4 algo,2CPU rack unit in the future or a paid for VSIG and both was answered with maybe :)
👍 as always. well... I have two H9s, first was for my guitars pedal board the second for my synth rig... but both ended up on my board. I wasn't feelin it with the effects on top of synth patches, it was too much, what do I program then, my effects or my synth patch? pre and post H9's for my guitar is definitely doing it for me. also, while the H9 is hard to program, it's not impossible and in a year of having my first H9 I pretty much forgot about the software. This is a fantastic seeming pedal but I don't think there's anything here for me.
2 H9s here and a Space, I prefer the Space due to knob per function, not a fan of having to use the Ipad to control the H9s, it's added expense and cumbersome. SP-H9 is a great pedal to change hot knob in performances. I can appreciate what the 90 does, just that I already have 1 H9 Max and 1 core which is upgraded to a Max for free. I will still check this out as you can never have enough pedals, thx for the upload.
@@WackyJackyTracky I posted an answer and it was removed for some reason. You need an app then connect via Blu Tooth and it will see the specific device, then you put in a 4 digit code from memory. It's very easy, BUT it changes how you interact with the H9 for sure. I have 2 IPADs btw.
Such a lush pedal - question, I have an Analog Four MK2 and Digitone - would I need an external mixer to connect the H90, A4 and Digitone so I can utilise the headphone outputs? I have no external monitors, space is short and sound/noise needs to be kept to a minimum - small house!
Worth mentioning eventide maxed out all h9 pedals b4 announcing this… for free :) And if you have a computer you effectively have 2 h9 already, how you ask… eventide include a free copy of all algorithms for pc and Mac if you own any h9
H9 max has been on my wishlist for a while, well now it isn't, and i'm glad I waited. Thought that 1 H9 would probably lead to wanting 2, now here they are in a single package. Routing options are great. Looking forward to coupling this up with a 1010music blackbox and some midi keys for a really fun playground.
The pricing on this is horrible...If you're going to charge me $899.99USD then 4 more knobs (above display) and the ability to chain together 4 effects while processing up to 4 independent audio signals (as opposed to only 2) would make this worth the price of admission. HARD PASS
Think of it like this..... this is a Strymon BigSky, Volante, Timeline, Mobius, Dig, Flint, Zelzah, Sunset, Deco, El Capistan, Lex, Brigadier, Orbit, Ola, and some of the NightSky, all in one box. It holds its own and often surpasses (in multiple areas) things like the Line 6 Helix, Boss GT-1000, and the Fractal Audio stuff. Really, it is great value for money and if Eventide support it for years and years to come with firmware updates, then really I don't see the price as a con, nor am I put off by it. I ordered mine instantly, and am digging into it and loving it.
I have one. Absolutely the best sounding lush effects out there. A nightmare to learn to operate. It's more suited for studio work than a pedal board. Especially for that price.
It pretty much already is a synth. They really should have included some oscillators so that you could just plug in a midi controller and play it. Maybe not the worlds most interesting synth but they’re already 95% of the way there, might as well go all the way - especially give the steep price.
Would to love to see a comparison on the H90 Max and Boss GT-1000 Core. No matter how attempt to dial in the GT-1000, I still can't get the spacious reverb of the Eventide.
Eventide soaked everyone for one or two H9s with the H90 planned... Pretty underhanded... I refuse to buy anything from this money-grubbing company... ☹️
Only hesitating on this cos I have the eventide space, a great stereo delay & already set on getting the meris lvx. The pitch stuff would be nice & I know it can do so much more but I’m spoilt for pedals, tbh I prefer external routing & it’s a lot to pay if I don’t need the reverb & delay! There I think I’ve successfully talked myself out of it 😃 Now excuse me while I go and consider the merits of a dual digitakt setup 😂
How is the MIDI CC implementation? Past H9's were pretty spotty in this respect. If I wanted to use this with an Elektron device using lots of P-Locks, how well would this work? I also can't find CC mappings in the user manual online. Do you know where I could find this info?
I didn't have the manual as of the making of this video, but as far as I know there are no preset mappings at all, rather, just like I assign the hotknob to a parameter in the video, you can assign a MIDI CC to a parameter (or a hotknob). So, it should work well (up to 128 parameters I guess), you just need to make the assignments manually, or use the built-in MIDI learn for the default Elektron CCs
Hello, I have configured it to receive midi. It receives midi from an external controller but does not harmonize based on said controller, but rather continues to harmonize according to the scales and keys of the parameters of the eventide itself. What is the solution? thank you
Now the Amedeo-Bass-Shim sounds great. All the excuses for not buying an H9 have been dealt with thoroughly. Your demo is the BEST I've seen on YT. Great work LooPop... don't forget to like and subscribe!
interface looks massively updated. have an eventide space for the knobs (so not H9) and Strymon big sky, timeline and mobius. still watching the video... looking promising so far. thanks for this in-depth video
Hi @loopop thanks for the video, once again, you're the "human user manual" ❤😄 I agree with you about the 3 knobs being nice even if it would have been even better to enjoy a line of 4 or a second line of 3 for 6 knobs in total, that's clear. There's one con you didn't mention, don't know what you think about it: the integration with laptops is good with the USB-C port but the Eventide software seems to be standalone. It would have been better to see an AU/VST version of it as well, in order to make automations on our DAW. Like Overbridge on the Elektron world. 😉
Thanks! Since you asked what I think, personally, it's not in my workflow to do that for this or the Elektron gear (which I like a lot standalone), but that's what I love about the comment section - for people who think differently so thanks for the comment.
It seems like a fantastic upgrade to the H9 and a pedal I really want to try in my setup. I just wish (and perhaps this is too much to ask for) that, over USB, I could use the algorithms inside of my DAW while the pedal is connected to my Mac (a sort of Virus TI2 type situation). That would open up a world of possibilities to me that I would otherwise have to bake in during recording. Or use as part of a send on an established track. Maybe it's something they can add down the road. Maybe it's only something I want. Ha! Regardless, it'd make this an instant buy for me. As it is, I still want it, but as I'm mostly a studio musician, I feel like I won't get as much out of this pedal because of the nature of my workflow. Still. Sounds amazing. Great review, as always.
@@abeteezy I get that. But since the pedal is fully digital, shouldn’t it make sense to be able to use it as both a real time audio processor and a plug-in over usb inside a daw? (Didn’t the H9 do that to some degree?) maybe it’s a feature in there somewhere. But to buy the pedal and the VST plugin seems like unnecessary double dipping.
@@acidlab9586 very good point. However, and maybe I’m wrong, but isn’t possible to customize algorithms’ parameters on the H90 and save them as user presets? Anyway, as you perfectly state it, Zoia and Beebo are different beasts!
@@acidlab9586 this resume how I see the H90 too. I’m about to think that’s more what I’m looking for. I never own an Evertide pedal. How’s the sound compare to the Zoia or the Beebo - with a similar reverb for example?
@@vaiman7777 what do you mean? Both pedals are white with lots of knobs ,switches and display.. And they make funny noises.. And they cost like small laptop. :) but one of them makes sounds nicer to my ears...
@@Jason75913 it is not just a delay. You can turn delay part off, and use bitcrusher,preamps, pitch shifting, granulize , cassette, dl4 type looper etc.. elements from meris enzo, hedra that can be used without delay.
Need help. I have the same setup now. Microfreak out goes into the H90 input1. I use a stereo cable. When I connect my headphone to Output 1, I don't get a stereo sound. I hear the sound from the right side of my headphones. how should I connect my headphone to hear stereo?
After wanting these for over 10 years, I finally recently bought a Strymon Big Sky, Mobius and Timeline. I didn't know this existed... so I'm also going to now save for one of these H90s and then control it all with a GigRig G3S. I don't think I would need anything else ever 😂 I might also die from not eating and not leaving my studio because it is so amazing! 😂
I'm glad I held out against the H9 Max. I've had the H90 for 6 days, sound is mind-blowing, it's amazing what this unit can do in terms of MIDI & programming...
love the setup I have w 2 H9's and an Evenmidi controller, but the internal routing on this is insane! Very tempted to downsize my setup to a single one of these. great informative video as usual @loopop , thanks!
@@dankeplace i feel like a lot of smaller makers are getting hung out by chip shortages unfortunately. wonder if theyre even producing any more ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Check their Plethora X5 and X3… (Behringer owns TC Electronic) very nicely priced multi fx pedals. But the firmware isn’t there yet (no midi clock sync yet and they didn’t use endless encoders). I feel Eventide is a bit more advanced though and it depends on what your needs are. Still worth checking out perhaps.
Nice - how do u feel this stacks up against the Microcosm, as i was just about to buy one - clearly this is more pricey, but seems like a similarly interesting sonic shaping solution
They're very different I think, Microcosm is certainly one of my faves. Both can do things the other can't but it feels like what H90 can do that Microcosm can't is more diverse, if that sentence makes sense...
@@loopop Makes perfect sence. Thanks for taking the time to reply on this point. Really appreciate it. I've made many new purchases based on your reviews over the years so really respect your opinion Both it is ! :D
Did they just put the H9-PlugIns-Algos into a box? I dont get the hype, as if this a new huge invention of eventide. I know I know two fx at the same time...👏
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Lesson learned, if you talk yourself out of buying something long enough, a better, more expensive version will come out and you can repeat the process…
Just get the H9000 and be done with effects.
Ha!
@@acidlab9586 1000000% agree!! Appreciated a lot your comment.
This is why I bought just few very important gears, and will keep them all my life, because people NEVER MASTER their rig, they just replace them and again and again…
We are infinitely lucky to live an era where machines are very, very, very powerful and deep.
What it means is we can enjoy them during a whole life before being limited…
People’s skills are limited WAY BEFORE their machines…
Consumption. Anyway
Always the same story, people being lazy with their brain. The best machine we’ve all got.
@@millenniummastering yes, nothing is will ever be bigger, better more powerful, or more expensive, well at least nothing will be more expensive…
Then I will wait for a rack mountable H900 as I don’t play guitar.
I used to work for Eventide (Eventide Clockworks back then) in the 70's i.e. the 1745, H910, H949, Phaser, Omnipressor, etc.......to date they still make some of the best signal processing and special effects gear on the market.
Does this mean a used H9 will soon be in my price range? I hope so!
Do people actually still want the H9? Zoia completely outdid it in every way.
Using an app to control it really sucked just fair warning
@@Screenshot1015 Given its depth, the app is actually quite useful. The H9 is the one pedal I don't leave the house without and the app plays a huge role in that.
@@3rdStoreyChemist connecting it is hard though. At least, with a MacBook. Of course when it works it’s nice to create sounds, load them on the H9 and play with it, but I do miss simultaneously tweaking a mix control and feedback control for instance
All I’m saying is that I owned an H9 max for a while and it became quite annoying to use very quickly. It wasn’t for me and I sold it. I don’t miss it very much at all and I mostly use a DBA Rooms and Zoom MS70CDR in its place. I know they don’t do everything the H9 did but if I hated using the H9 and therefore rarely got it out I don’t really think it matters.
Times where effects get more complex than the instrument 🎹🧐😉
Exactly what I was thinking and more expensive than the instrument 🙄 although you could probably fart into it and it would sound good.
That's been the Eventide business model since the 80s...
In which case the whole “instrument” is now the combination of instrument and effects. It’s like the old Brian Eno idea of treating the recording studio as an instrument, but massively condensed.
The logical step for eventide to take would be to incorporate this and make a synthesizer.
Yes!!! That would be beyond the beyond. Include algorithms from the H3000 including the resonance patches.
With a poly aftertouch keyboard and extensive mod matrix... Yes. Would buy.
H90 is basically a synth module of sorts already. No real point in making an actual synth, just pair it with whatever you please.
Eventide effects are in the Moog One.
@@ktreier the same ones as in their pedals? I doubt that, but I wouldn't throw out the possibility
I think it would have made more sense to increase the IO and market it as a send fx solution rather than sell it as one excessively powerful insert
Isn’t that what the H9000 is designed to do?
You can assign different inputs and outputs to the two algorithms. So it’s almost half an H9000
@@obsoletecd-rom exactly...I think more people would be into an H9000 lite than a H9 turbo
Now this is a real studio unit. Powerful, rich, and pricey.
I love it, but where I'm at I would have a hard time justifying the price tag for an effects unit.
I get that beginning hobbyists aren't the target though, of course. maybe if I get to a point of making income from it, I could justify the cost on something like this.
It's the price of two premium pedals. Here, you get a lot more options and also spillover. I don't think the price is wrong.
I'm still getting new sounds and ideas out of my H9 years after owning it.
Thanks for in-depth review (as always ❤). Probably something went wrong if I look at price of this pedal and thinking that it's a reasonable 900$😅
Still better than £1,050 for the UK via Thomann [=$1,200] : )
Not to sound like a d..k, but wow, that's a lot for a pedal when one can have a, say, Elektron Digitone for less, or a Hydrasynth Desktop for same amount.
@@ssssssssssss885 haha but in comparison to the H.Sh.t , with the Eventide you would actually purchase a good sounding device.
@@ssssssssssss885 Actually for 900 you can buy 2 multy effects pedals like Strymon timeline and big sky... Or even 2 pedals with 2 simultaneously active effects on each...
@@RockmannMusic oops you are right - with taxes for EU it became even more expensive.
i wish they had an affordable 19" rack version...
Its nearly a grand..ouch!
1200€ streetprice is kind of hard. But you dont need to buy synths - just buy a $20 child-keyboard and get great sounds :D
Somebody mentioned once, with an Eventide H9 reverb a simple analog clock ticking can be sound like an instant movie scoring
Would love to see more about what you can do with it by sending it MIDI or CV.
Unfortunately, 3-knob design is far from practical. Eventide should remake 10-knob version for a similar editing experience of factor series pedals. Knob per function is crucial in live electronic music.
I couldn't agree more man. It would be one of the best pieces of gear ever made if it did. Instead I won't even get it. I cannot stand menu diving with anything, period. If I'm leaving software to hardware, one knob per function always or why bother ? Even just 6 knobs would make it worthy...... but no, they went for the gimped version.
Great demo as usual.I was hoping the H90 was going to be average , or great and £500.Neither was the case .It is awesome and £1000.
Welp, that talked me out if it. I knew it’d be pricey but I expected like 600
After listening to Eventide’s interview on The Guitar Knobs Podcast about the H90 and your demo, I’m massively impressed with Eventide as a company and manufacturer of music gear. This is how you execute a truly improved UI/UX. Excellent video as always. 🤘🏻❤️
Don't suppose you have a link to that interview please?
@@djembeboyzach ua-cam.com/video/Wk1rAteqm3Q/v-deo.html
Well besides weirdo pedals like the mentioned zoia, there's also a bunch of multi-fx amp pedals like the line6 helix stomp, hotone ampero, boxx gx-100 that can do a lot more than this for less of a price. pitch shifting, harmonizing, delays, reverbs, modulation, overdrives plus amp/cab modeling. also, am i getting this right, the H90 has the DSP power to run 4 algorithms (spillover) but eventide only allows you to REALLY run 2 at a time?
If quality doesn't matter, you can't beat the practicality of the cheap little Zoom MS70CDR, of course, we all know that.
exactly, I would purchase tomorrow if it was possible to chain at least 2-3 effects in each slot....
It's expensive but I don't think the price is unreasonable at all, comparable with many other studio quality alternatives. Most people aren't barking that a Strymon Timeline and BigSky combined is outrageous, and I think you're getting far more with this Eventide. Is it essential? For a lot of people probably not, including myself. But I think it's a really solid choice for anyone looking for top notch sound and maximum versatility in a live rig or studio processor.
You might want to listen again to Strymon Reverbs compared to Eventide ones...
They are one trick ponies, but sound much richer , clearer and to the point.
It's Victorinox vs Bowie knife
Can't wait until it becomes available in my 3rd world country, ie UK. Another great video, Loopop. Thanks!
Would love to hear what you do with it!
I'd love to hear what you do with it as well, man!
Thanks for the video. The H90 looks to be a significant upgrade to the H9. I'll have to start saving for one. I wish they would offer this as a rack mount unit in addition to a guitar pedal. Say, wasn't "Band-delay Industries" mentioned on an episode of Seinfeld?
How is the converters? ADA conversation is incredibly important for quality.
$900 for only two programs at once is insane. This product feels 7 years old already.
It's 1200€ in Europe :/
@@sCealt are you kidding? Damn. I thought it was 899€ as well. I haven’t checked out the new algos yet, but let’s hope the market gets flooded by H9s then, so I can have an extra one
@@sCealt crazy
@@skeletonmodel yeah I don't really understand why it's 130% of the US price tbh. But regarding the H9, I saw a lot of them for sale on Reverb this morning hehe :)
I always found the H9 sounded really good but it was not for me due to only one effect at a time. When I read the headline about the new H90, I hoped they would have changed that but yeah.. no, they didn't, actually. It's pretty much the same as getting two H9's previously. It's a shame, that some manufacturers limit their products on purpose and charge premium.
fairly blown away by the generative capabilities, it packs a punch but a bit expensive for me.
This is one of the cheapest things reviewed on this channel lol
i have got 99 programs in each playlist, but pitch ain't in one
00:44 Accidental Radiohead?
There's a gap in between
There's a gap where we meet
Where I end and you begin
Truly a work of art in presenting this item!! 👍👍
We’re heading into inflation hell and some of these manufacturers (it’s not Eventide by itself by a long shot) now create/release tremendously expensive devices… that’s a bit of a bummer. Yeah, I get they all didn’t see it coming, but it’s a bit jarring.
Actually, a tremendously expensive pedal matches Inflation Hell pretty well...
Electronic music hardware has always been a luxury
Maybe YOU are heading into hell. Please don't include the rest of the planet in your paranoia and negativity. Speak for yourself.
@@ZenMountain It is not me who is including anyone. That’s being done all over the world due to ‘circumstances beyond my control’. Fact is groceries and fuel have increased in price by about 20% or so. Electricity and natural gas are up around 100%. Same can be said about the other end of the spectrum, like iPhones, iPads and MacBooks. All up by at least 20%. I’ve already been in hell this year. My wife almost died and my mother got an heart attack. Not many good things happened in the world this year. So forgive me for sounding negative. Making music is one of the positives in my life atm. This pedal is great and I would buy it for €999, but not for the €1199 it will be sold for here in western Europe. Not sure where you got that ‘paranoia’ remark from? Negativity… maybe, but paranoia?
Honestly, just pirate the Eventide plugins for free. It's 90% the gear for 0% the cost.
Thank you Loopop for this helpful introduction of this effect unit. Glad that I didn’t but the H9. Already ordered the H90. Eventide is just incredible from the sound quality.
Wow.
It (almost) expands the microfreak into something more like the polybrute . Great video.
Dang I got h9max this sounds cool... Eh I'll stick w h9 - I could try to get h9 core for cheaper at this point
Hello fellow delugeer! :)
@@JohnTrasher hey hey!
Yes its amazing. More of the same. Please dont stop innovating. 4 algos would have been appreciated at that price point. Now please compare it to the ios plugins, 4 in parallel hosted in aum.
This one could be a good secondhand buy. New, its very expensive!
I’d be curious to see compres to competition $900 seems steep
Considering the input options and the quality of the algorithms, I don't think there is anything comparable for the money.
It is pricey for a digital pedal, but it's one hell of a pedal, IMO.
@@iantanner7579 I think it’s a great pedal don’t get me wrong. I am still not sold on the price though :)
@@mastermachetier5594 H90 is the Pitch Factor, Mod Factor, Time Factor, and Space rolled into one pedal, and more, so you can get an idea by looking up those other Eventide pedals and comparisons with Strymon and Boss and what not.
As a Patreon subscriber I’ll confirm the book is well worth it!
Thanks very much for taking the time to write!
That's a wonderful FX unit but man, something kinda funny to me using an FX unit that costs nearly 3x the synth it's connected to. I think I"ll be using my MS-70CDR for a few more years before I can think about something like this 😅
That price comparison is irrelevant and erroneous, H90 wouldn't even be wasted if used on a wee little cheap Volca FM - good effects cost money, and Eventide's various algorithms rolled into one unit will clearly be expensive.
Get the plug-ins on Black Friday if you’re a producer.
I guess this means the H9 Max I currently have listed for sale just tanked in value 🤦♂️
Yea
$900??😱I'm sorry but that's insane.
Excellent idea about a firmware update to allow the H90 to act as a mixer for 4xmono inputs, 2x mono and 1 x stereo or 2x stereo. This would make the H90 a instant purchase for me. Also, I would like to say that I wish these multi effect pedals had headphone outs. As I enjoy playing and exploring with very small setups running from a usb power bank. Thanks for the video as always. ✌️
For most of the video I was wondering the same thing! Hope they do it.
Yes, and also allow 3 stereo ins + 1 stereo out
Do we know if this was ever offered in an update?
Amazing presentation as always!
I wish they released a VSig3 version that's compatible with this. Would open the door to nearly endless possibilities.
Exactly my point...I had the H9000 for a while and loved meddling in algorithms myself.
But this is targeted to guitarists who seemed to be overwhelmed with the classic H90 app already, so they did not want to get into the support business one needs to provide if VSIG is open to all.
I asked if we could see a 4 algo,2CPU rack unit in the future or a paid for VSIG and both was answered with maybe :)
👍 as always. well... I have two H9s, first was for my guitars pedal board the second for my synth rig... but both ended up on my board. I wasn't feelin it with the effects on top of synth patches, it was too much, what do I program then, my effects or my synth patch? pre and post H9's for my guitar is definitely doing it for me.
also, while the H9 is hard to program, it's not impossible and in a year of having my first H9 I pretty much forgot about the software.
This is a fantastic seeming pedal but I don't think there's anything here for me.
For 1200 euro I would prefer to buy a synthesizer. This isn't for me, but it sounds awesome as the H9 or the cheaper Blackhole does.
2 H9s here and a Space, I prefer the Space due to knob per function, not a fan of having to use the Ipad to control the H9s, it's added expense and cumbersome.
SP-H9 is a great pedal to change hot knob in performances.
I can appreciate what the 90 does, just that I already have 1 H9 Max and 1 core which is upgraded to a Max for free.
I will still check this out as you can never have enough pedals, thx for the upload.
How do you connect your iPad with the H9s?
@@WackyJackyTracky I posted an answer and it was removed for some reason.
You need an app then connect via Blu Tooth and it will see the specific device, then you put in a 4 digit code from memory.
It's very easy, BUT it changes how you interact with the H9 for sure.
I have 2 IPADs btw.
Such a lush pedal - question, I have an Analog Four MK2 and Digitone - would I need an external mixer to connect the H90, A4 and Digitone so I can utilise the headphone outputs? I have no external monitors, space is short and sound/noise needs to be kept to a minimum - small house!
Worth mentioning eventide maxed out all h9 pedals b4 announcing this… for free :) And if you have a computer you effectively have 2 h9 already, how you ask… eventide include a free copy of all algorithms for pc and Mac if you own any h9
Has the promotion been brought back? I haven’t seen any information regarding the free plugins, apart from the 2020 promo 🤔
@@ren3ran3 Sorry, no this was an old promotion that is no longer active.
what would be a betteroption, this or the Zoia?
H9 max has been on my wishlist for a while, well now it isn't, and i'm glad I waited. Thought that 1 H9 would probably lead to wanting 2, now here they are in a single package. Routing options are great. Looking forward to coupling this up with a 1010music blackbox and some midi keys for a really fun playground.
.... And yes for 1300 euro in Europe ahahaha..... Insane pricing ! Very bad !
It’s not exactly two H9 in one box, it’s more powerful than that!
@@PelicansCourtsideClub I don’t know of any pedal that’s as powerful as the H90.
Even a single algorithm of the H9 can be so powerful.
I'll stick to my 3 Zoom MS70cdr, they do pretty much the same, and I dare anyone to blind test them next to the Eventide :-) I had the H9 for ages.
I love the H90. I have it as a cue fx in the octatrack and it’s very inspiring even just browsing the presets
Nice , who needs another pricy synth
You got me hooked once you played where I end and you begin intro by Radiohead!!!! As always amazing videos and thanks for your hard work
Thanks! an unintentional cover - I was just noodling but likely a subconscious influence :)
Id love this as a eurorack module... I wonder if the addac granular comes close.. anyone know a module that would produce similar effects
The pricing on this is horrible...If you're going to charge me $899.99USD then 4 more knobs (above display) and the ability to chain together 4 effects while processing up to 4 independent audio signals (as opposed to only 2) would make this worth the price of admission. HARD PASS
Same price as CXM 1978 bro
i agree, apparently it has the DSP for 4 algorithms but eventide only allows you to really use 2 at a time.
Think of it like this..... this is a Strymon BigSky, Volante, Timeline, Mobius, Dig, Flint, Zelzah, Sunset, Deco, El Capistan, Lex, Brigadier, Orbit, Ola, and some of the NightSky, all in one box. It holds its own and often surpasses (in multiple areas) things like the Line 6 Helix, Boss GT-1000, and the Fractal Audio stuff.
Really, it is great value for money and if Eventide support it for years and years to come with firmware updates, then really I don't see the price as a con, nor am I put off by it. I ordered mine instantly, and am digging into it and loving it.
I have one. Absolutely the best sounding lush effects out there. A nightmare to learn to operate. It's more suited for studio work than a pedal board. Especially for that price.
Eventide should produce a synth
It pretty much already is a synth. They really should have included some oscillators so that you could just plug in a midi controller and play it. Maybe not the worlds most interesting synth but they’re already 95% of the way there, might as well go all the way - especially give the steep price.
but if you really must, get a Behringer MS-1 and you've got oscillators
I’ve finally found the one and only effect I will buy.
Thank you.
Just finished watching Sweetwaters take on this unit... 20mins... now for the real in depth view!!! Awesome 👊🧡👍
For $100 more you can buy a Fractal FM3 that is 5000 better. Anyways, I love your channel.
But does the FM3 play well with synth input levels?
Holy GAS Batman. In less than two minutes I'm wondering how I've lived without this magicbox for so long haha
Wow. Sure turns the already impressive microfreak into a colossal beast. This 'pedal' is epic.
Would to love to see a comparison on the H90 Max and Boss GT-1000 Core. No matter how attempt to dial in the GT-1000, I still can't get the spacious reverb of the Eventide.
Sounds good, but it's really expensive for only 2 stacked effects
Eventide soaked everyone for one or two H9s with the H90 planned... Pretty underhanded... I refuse to buy anything from this money-grubbing company... ☹️
They released the H9 about 10 years ago - Talk about a long con!
1200 euro .. what the heck are they high on .. not in 1200 years !
Only hesitating on this cos I have the eventide space, a great stereo delay & already set on getting the meris lvx. The pitch stuff would be nice & I know it can do so much more but I’m spoilt for pedals, tbh I prefer external routing & it’s a lot to pay if I don’t need the reverb & delay!
There I think I’ve successfully talked myself out of it 😃
Now excuse me while I go and consider the merits of a dual digitakt setup 😂
How is the MIDI CC implementation? Past H9's were pretty spotty in this respect. If I wanted to use this with an Elektron device using lots of P-Locks, how well would this work? I also can't find CC mappings in the user manual online. Do you know where I could find this info?
I didn't have the manual as of the making of this video, but as far as I know there are no preset mappings at all, rather, just like I assign the hotknob to a parameter in the video, you can assign a MIDI CC to a parameter (or a hotknob). So, it should work well (up to 128 parameters I guess), you just need to make the assignments manually, or use the built-in MIDI learn for the default Elektron CCs
Hello, I have configured it to receive midi.
It receives midi from an external controller but does not harmonize based on said controller, but rather continues to harmonize according to the scales and keys of the parameters of the eventide itself.
What is the solution?
thank you
The Line 6 multi-effects seem more useful for live use but maybe people hear an advantage in the H90 effects.
This is more of a synth with external audio only rather than a mere effects processor...
Now the Amedeo-Bass-Shim sounds great. All the excuses for not buying an H9 have been dealt with thoroughly. Your demo is the BEST I've seen on YT. Great work LooPop... don't forget to like and subscribe!
interface looks massively updated. have an eventide space for the knobs (so not H9) and Strymon big sky, timeline and mobius.
still watching the video... looking promising so far. thanks for this in-depth video
Which one offers more, big sky or h90?
@bulentkamali h90 offers much more beyond reverb
Hi @loopop thanks for the video, once again, you're the "human user manual" ❤😄 I agree with you about the 3 knobs being nice even if it would have been even better to enjoy a line of 4 or a second line of 3 for 6 knobs in total, that's clear. There's one con you didn't mention, don't know what you think about it: the integration with laptops is good with the USB-C port but the Eventide software seems to be standalone. It would have been better to see an AU/VST version of it as well, in order to make automations on our DAW. Like Overbridge on the Elektron world. 😉
Thanks! Since you asked what I think, personally, it's not in my workflow to do that for this or the Elektron gear (which I like a lot standalone), but that's what I love about the comment section - for people who think differently so thanks for the comment.
Thankyou! I got frustrated with H9 and was able to return it. This does the crazy little things I need. Ordered mine today.
It seems like a fantastic upgrade to the H9 and a pedal I really want to try in my setup. I just wish (and perhaps this is too much to ask for) that, over USB, I could use the algorithms inside of my DAW while the pedal is connected to my Mac (a sort of Virus TI2 type situation). That would open up a world of possibilities to me that I would otherwise have to bake in during recording. Or use as part of a send on an established track. Maybe it's something they can add down the road. Maybe it's only something I want. Ha! Regardless, it'd make this an instant buy for me. As it is, I still want it, but as I'm mostly a studio musician, I feel like I won't get as much out of this pedal because of the nature of my workflow. Still. Sounds amazing. Great review, as always.
eventide has already released alot of these effects as plugins! if you have the $$$
@@abeteezy I get that. But since the pedal is fully digital, shouldn’t it make sense to be able to use it as both a real time audio processor and a plug-in over usb inside a daw? (Didn’t the H9 do that to some degree?) maybe it’s a feature in there somewhere. But to buy the pedal and the VST plugin seems like unnecessary double dipping.
Transition time is a huge upgrade. It convinced me to return my fresh Beebo for the H90.
@@acidlab9586 very good point. However, and maybe I’m wrong, but isn’t possible to customize algorithms’ parameters on the H90 and save them as user presets? Anyway, as you perfectly state it, Zoia and Beebo are different beasts!
@@acidlab9586 I see. Yes it makes great sense, many thanks.
@@acidlab9586 this resume how I see the H90 too. I’m about to think that’s more what I’m looking for.
I never own an Evertide pedal. How’s the sound compare to the Zoia or the Beebo - with a similar reverb for example?
Europe Thomann price 1199€ soooo nevermind
este processador de efeitos transforma o som de qualquer instrumento para outro nível!!!!!!
Your first example sounded just like the beginning of “It Is Accomplished” by Peter Gabriel on the Last Temptation of Christ soundtrack.
Can any 2 effects be ran simultaneously? Reverb and delay? Chorus and reverb? Etc.
As far as I remember yes
Hmm sorry but no cigar.. Meris LVX is where my money might go...
Not really a comparison here is there lol, but good luck!
@@vaiman7777 what do you mean? Both pedals are white with lots of knobs ,switches and display.. And they make funny noises.. And they cost like small laptop. :)
but one of them makes sounds nicer to my ears...
@@markolijus One is a delay
@@markolijus one is a multi-stomp and the other is just a delay, no comparison
@@Jason75913 it is not just a delay. You can turn delay part off, and use bitcrusher,preamps, pitch shifting, granulize , cassette, dl4 type looper etc.. elements from meris enzo, hedra that can be used without delay.
IK Multimedia UNO Synth + a Zoom MS70 CDR is a bad alternative option for our poor people ? Ahahaha :P (In EU price is 1299 euro)
Uno Pro sounds much, much better than the older Uno
Love it, and great video.
Started watch...looked good...checked price....stopped watching! Maybe in 10 years I'll pick one up on eBay!
How do you think the effects quality on
this compares to the line 6 helix products like Line 6 Helix HX stomp and helix LT?
I've not tried them
Love your videos. Thanks for this super helpful information and incredibly in-depth review. Keep looping. Keep popping.
🙌🏻🙏🏻
agreed, that mixer functionality suggestion would be IMMENSE
Need help. I have the same setup now. Microfreak out goes into the H90 input1. I use a stereo cable. When I connect my headphone to Output 1, I don't get a stereo sound. I hear the sound from the right side of my headphones. how should I connect my headphone to hear stereo?
Just use a mono cable
Really cool, but holy smokes, a $1000 dollar pedal. (in my market)
After wanting these for over 10 years, I finally recently bought a Strymon Big Sky, Mobius and Timeline. I didn't know this existed... so I'm also going to now save for one of these H90s and then control it all with a GigRig G3S. I don't think I would need anything else ever 😂
I might also die from not eating and not leaving my studio because it is so amazing!
😂
I'm glad I held out against the H9 Max. I've had the H90 for 6 days, sound is mind-blowing, it's amazing what this unit can do in terms of MIDI & programming...
love the setup I have w 2 H9's and an Evenmidi controller, but the internal routing on this is insane! Very tempted to downsize my setup to a single one of these. great informative video as usual @loopop , thanks!
I went to buy a Evenmidi and they're not available, what a shame.
@@dankeplace i feel like a lot of smaller makers are getting hung out by chip shortages unfortunately. wonder if theyre even producing any more ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@azazabacheche3973 his last update was Nov 21 with 93% completion and then radio silence.
Good to know other people went with the H9 also. Can't wait till it gets here!
1.199 € ....ridiculous!
Wow that's a nice bit of electronics hardware..with a great review, as always a pleasure to watch even thow I have no interest in buying .
Waiting for Behringer's affordable version. 😎
Check their Plethora X5 and X3… (Behringer owns TC Electronic) very nicely priced multi fx pedals. But the firmware isn’t there yet (no midi clock sync yet and they didn’t use endless encoders). I feel Eventide is a bit more advanced though and it depends on what your needs are. Still worth checking out perhaps.
@@skullhqx Ok, but 1200€ for such pedal? No, thanks.
Nice - how do u feel this stacks up against the Microcosm, as i was just about to buy one - clearly this is more pricey, but seems like a similarly interesting sonic shaping solution
They're very different I think, Microcosm is certainly one of my faves. Both can do things the other can't but it feels like what H90 can do that Microcosm can't is more diverse, if that sentence makes sense...
@@loopop Makes perfect sence. Thanks for taking the time to reply on this point. Really appreciate it. I've made many new purchases based on your reviews over the years so really respect your opinion Both it is ! :D
BRAVO 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Excellent video! Definitely helped my decision making 🫡
Did they just put the H9-PlugIns-Algos into a box? I dont get the hype, as if this a new huge invention of eventide. I know I know two fx at the same time...👏