At about a minute in, your very clear explanation of the differences made it clear why you'd want the front rim/rear disk set up. I'll watch the rest of the video to see if I'm right but I feel like it would be a lot easier for me in pretty much all cases to have the front wheel lock with minimum flex and deal with some butt end movement than the opposite.
the front end stalls and hops are more difficult with less spring, but from watching the test it looks like the added precision and stability is mostly negligible in the outcome. Thanks for the video!
Loved this build Ali! Reminded me of the Ozonys I got off Stan. I had the vee rear, avid mechanical disc set up, but I would have loved to try the rear disc setup. This one looks dialled with the Hayes Dominion 👌
Very interesting brake setup, I hope you'll like it! I've been using very similar setup on my Gu 24" comp trials bike (HS-33 front/Hope trial zone rear) for two years, and really enjoy it. Spoke flex on the back wheel isn't much of an issue and doesn't affect riding, but advantages of the disc brake make the riding more smooth and just funnier.
Out of my wheel house, except for the Alligator alu outer cable housing, that I'll be interested in hearing your thoughts on. Is it really worth the near 3x premium over good regular outer housing?
I build bikes myself as well and everytime, I use second hand parts. I find it very satisfying. But sadly the only thing witch I can't do is building wheels from scratch. Big fan love you're work. Keep it up
You could remove the bolt and top-cap once you've tightened the stem if you want to save weight. I'm not sure if there are rules about running a top-cap, I wouldn't say it's as dangerous as not running handlebar plugs. Edit: Not a cheap option but XTR 2-pot calipers (M9100) would save save more out-board weight. I don't think they'd be compatible with your levers though as they take a different hose (BH90) to most brakes. If you want more braking performance you could go 4-pot or look at a 220mm rotor, that won't be saving you any weight though and the large rotor might void your warranty (if that matters), it won't help with clearance either.
I've never had any luck with my headsets staying tight whenever I remove the top cap...I think it'd be fine for gentle riding but with how much leverage goes through the fork and stem on a trials bike I think a top cap is always needed. As for brakes, the XTR wouldn't work with this lever mainly because of the different fluid types, it would be easy enough to get the hose to work though I think. a larger rotor would certainly give more power but you're right it would be heavier, my main concern would be making it even easier to bend though. As for 4-pot vs 2-pot...4-pot doesn't always mean more power, in fact 2-pot can be equally as powerful and have more initial bite than a 4-pot (why the Hope trials brake is a 2-pot brake). I specifically chose this brake over a 4-pot (which I also have as an option) for this extra bite.
Those pedals could use a few coats of brown to match the frame. A bit of Bondo and paint on the fork as well wouldn't hurt. The naughty boy in me would love to see you put a suspension fork on the front. Just to put a stick in the spokes of the purists.
I’ve just replaced my halo clickster freewheel on my track bike with an inspired one, the halo one was loud and buzzy, the inspired one is loud and gritty I like that
Loving the videos Ali. Nice build and mix of parts. Really like the concept of reversing what 20” Comps are using and trying across 26”. Trend setter I can see it now. Hahah
Do you still have the Echo Hifi ... Pink Bike? Love these bike builds. A great looking bike. Would love to see you ride a rear V-brake again. Can't beat the sound of a rear V ! Can't wait for the comp video.
great build but my favourite part is the roof of forks mainly because i see a set of bos deville forks and i run a set of bos deville 170 on my ns surge evo and run really well
@@dansacco1964 the surge evo is a great frame i set mine up with a 170mm fork (over forked by 10mm) and 26" wheels which makes it fun for doing stuff like dirt jumps and 4x to freeride and enduro and downhill
Awesome Build and the Bondage ask your parents absolutely got me in stitches I feel sorry for the parents whose kids are now asking them weird questions LOL Looks like your cat needs to change his name to lazy thief LOL
They don’t sell them bikes where I live. I looked for one. Since I don’t have one. I just wanted one to try and have one in my collection. And if I found one where I live the seller thinks they are selling gold.
Great video of another bike build, I love your patio well trials course section how handy 😁 As a thought for your pedals what about using a nylon brush attachment on a drill to polish off the paint?
I am still curious on that tapered fork on pure trials bike. was the head tube size 42 - 42 mm or something else? if it is, which headset cup you used? cheers
Wonder if ther is a break set that you can lock to hop side ways up rails lol 😂 I was doing it the other day my finger got so bad was hard to move it after 😂
Kind of a random question: What should I look for in a new bike? My current bike is a Walmart bike and it works pretty well. It's probably the best Walmart bike I've ever seen, but I wanna get a new one eventually. What should I look for? I love your videos! Keep it going, dude!
(Berm peak) did a video on buying your first mtb and what you should and should not look for Here’s the link to the video ua-cam.com/video/K882pvG395w/v-deo.html
@@bengray5013 yeah I didn't like how the barrel adjuster wasn't actually threaded into the lever body, when I ran my brakes with minimum spring tension it would rattle and even sit proud slightly and pull back in when I pulled the brake...very annoying
@@orestisvas7277 no problem, to give some detail I usually use a bottle of clean water on the pads and rotor and ride around pulsing the brake(s). I add some more water to clean off the black residue that can appear and repeat until the brake has some bite and then the rest of the bedding in will happen through riding 👍🏻
Hi, Algorithm, do you think that when Mr Kitty (aka The Cute Thief) goes on holiday he packs his KITbag? Does he put his spending money in a kitty? Oh dear, these puns are a bit of a CATastrophe but I don’t do it on purr-puss! (I also apologise to Ali’s followers for whom English is not their first language if these ‘jokes’ don’t seem to make sense!)
Awesome video Ali! I have been on the hunt for these Trialtech parts for a classic build I am doing but they are hardly in stocks anymore. Do you know if Trialtech is still in business?
There isn't much in life I find more relaxing than an Ali Clarkson build vid
awesome to hear :D
I also really like Ali's bike build videos.
A life lesson I am all too recently learning for myself!
Yes! Supremely chill with some top notch dad jokes mixed in there.
These videos are always great at teaching me things about trials and bikes in general. And i love all the little jokes, so much fun!
Thanks Jean!
the cat application step is of paramount criticality
Yay! Was watching your old videos and got the notification that this one was out, haha. Looking forward to seeing another comp bike on the channel!
good timing!
Just started working in a shop this week and I’m super stoked! Much thanks to your inspiration over the years!
nice! I'm sure you'll love it :)
Love the editing on the wheel build!
Thank you :)
This seven second sequence was the funniest thing I've seen in months. Your bike build videos never fail to entertain. Cheers Ali (:
At about a minute in, your very clear explanation of the differences made it clear why you'd want the front rim/rear disk set up. I'll watch the rest of the video to see if I'm right but I feel like it would be a lot easier for me in pretty much all cases to have the front wheel lock with minimum flex and deal with some butt end movement than the opposite.
the front end stalls and hops are more difficult with less spring, but from watching the test it looks like the added precision and stability is mostly negligible in the outcome. Thanks for the video!
Good luck in the comp, Ali!
well actually the comp was a couple of weeks ago now but thanks anyway haha, you'll have to wait to see how I got on :)
Loved this build Ali! Reminded me of the Ozonys I got off Stan. I had the vee rear, avid mechanical disc set up, but I would have loved to try the rear disc setup. This one looks dialled with the Hayes Dominion 👌
Thanks Mike, sounds like quite a lot of people had this frame and enjoyed them!
Just bled my Magura rim brakes over the weekend on my Urban Assault Shango. Will be grinding my rims.
get some ear protection ready (and I don't mean for the grinding part)
Bike builds are the best!
Same
fun to do too :)
Very interesting brake setup, I hope you'll like it!
I've been using very similar setup on my Gu 24" comp trials bike (HS-33 front/Hope trial zone rear) for two years, and really enjoy it. Spoke flex on the back wheel isn't much of an issue and doesn't affect riding, but advantages of the disc brake make the riding more smooth and just funnier.
Very cool color. Evil bikes used to have a color called "Rusty Trombone", similar to this. Looked amazing.
Out of my wheel house, except for the Alligator alu outer cable housing, that I'll be interested in hearing your thoughts on. Is it really worth the near 3x premium over good regular outer housing?
so far it feels pretty sweet!
At least the Nokon cable housings were not really worth it in my experience. Their only advantage is that they allow very tight bending radii.
Great build and as always great humor.
Extra Kudos for the Cornetto Trilogy reference
thank you very much :)
I build bikes myself as well and everytime, I use second hand parts. I find it very satisfying. But sadly the only thing witch I can't do is building wheels from scratch.
Big fan love you're work. Keep it up
Really enjoyed the last year Tweedvalley loved getting the signature and love the videos too
You could remove the bolt and top-cap once you've tightened the stem if you want to save weight. I'm not sure if there are rules about running a top-cap, I wouldn't say it's as dangerous as not running handlebar plugs.
Edit: Not a cheap option but XTR 2-pot calipers (M9100) would save save more out-board weight. I don't think they'd be compatible with your levers though as they take a different hose (BH90) to most brakes. If you want more braking performance you could go 4-pot or look at a 220mm rotor, that won't be saving you any weight though and the large rotor might void your warranty (if that matters), it won't help with clearance either.
I've never had any luck with my headsets staying tight whenever I remove the top cap...I think it'd be fine for gentle riding but with how much leverage goes through the fork and stem on a trials bike I think a top cap is always needed.
As for brakes, the XTR wouldn't work with this lever mainly because of the different fluid types, it would be easy enough to get the hose to work though I think. a larger rotor would certainly give more power but you're right it would be heavier, my main concern would be making it even easier to bend though.
As for 4-pot vs 2-pot...4-pot doesn't always mean more power, in fact 2-pot can be equally as powerful and have more initial bite than a 4-pot (why the Hope trials brake is a 2-pot brake). I specifically chose this brake over a 4-pot (which I also have as an option) for this extra bite.
Nice job. Cool build! Awesome cat. 👍
Thanks!
Used to have one of these frames. I loved it when I had it and was gutted when I got rid of it.
yeah they were good weren't they
Love the comedy on this one 😅😂
good to hear :D
Can't wait to see you ride it at the competition!
Thank you :)
How generous of the cute thief to stress-relieve your new wheel for you even while on vacation, with more important stuff to do!
Stupid idea but what if Ali did a build with 4 break levers and had both rim and disk break on both front and back
wow now there's an idea haha
Those pedals could use a few coats of brown to match the frame. A bit of Bondo and paint on the fork as well wouldn't hurt. The naughty boy in me would love to see you put a suspension fork on the front. Just to put a stick in the spokes of the purists.
I dread to think how high the bb would be with a suss for fitted :P
That bike looks so clean!!
yeah I'm not sure why...maybe the lack of saddle?
Another interesting build. Thought we might get and answer to the plastic block thats being prototyped. Mibbie next week!🤞
not yet, that's currently still a plastic block so you have a little wait yet
I’ve just replaced my halo clickster freewheel on my track bike with an inspired one, the halo one was loud and buzzy, the inspired one is loud and gritty I like that
Excellent! I remember a comic book story of a kid who drilled holes in his bike frame to make it lighter (back in the 70’s)
I had the same issue with my cats. They kept bringing home parts, except they were for my 65 MGB.
The cat stressing the spokes! 🤣
Loving the videos Ali. Nice build and mix of parts. Really like the concept of reversing what 20”
Comps are using and trying across 26”. Trend setter I can see it now. Hahah
Do you still have the Echo Hifi ... Pink Bike? Love these bike builds. A great looking bike. Would love to see you ride a rear V-brake again. Can't beat the sound of a rear V ! Can't wait for the comp video.
yes I do! Still got all the bikes except the pashley, Ashtob and Crescent :) And don't worry, I'm sure a rear vee will happen again soon :)
Never seen a trials bike build before. Weird and awesome :)
I was just watching GET2 and saw the original Ozonys! The scaffolding line. 🤯
I think cats like the smell of oil and GT85 type products. My neighbour cat always comes for a visit and a sniff when I'm messing with my bike.
I think they're all engineers at heart
Best bike built so far….Thanks for this Ali, cheers 🤟🏻
Glad you enjoyed it John :)
I’m still rocking the same chain stay protector on my DJ 🤟
good man :)
great build but my favourite part is the roof of forks mainly because i see a set of bos deville forks and i run a set of bos deville 170 on my ns surge evo and run really well
well spotted!
How do you like the Surge Evo? What type of riding do you do with it?
@@dansacco1964 the surge evo is a great frame i set mine up with a 170mm fork (over forked by 10mm) and 26" wheels which makes it fun for doing stuff like dirt jumps and 4x to freeride and enduro and downhill
i love these build vids
and I like doing them :)
Great vid, that thief always seems to be slacking😂
he works hard sometimes, but he is a cat after all so some laziness is expected
A beautiful build as always Ali!
Thanks Jude :)
Wheel flexing can be decreased if you increase number of spoke crossing... 0:59
technically you're correct but personally I can't feel any difference between my 4X wheel and this 3X one
Another informative and entertaining video. Thank you!
I owe you a Cornetto after those Edgar Wright references!
This really gives me 2010 UA-cam nostalgia
those were some good times
Hyperglide tyre treads! Cool.
Awesome Build and the Bondage ask your parents absolutely got me in stitches I feel sorry for the parents whose kids are now asking them weird questions LOL Looks like your cat needs to change his name to lazy thief LOL
haha I wasn't sure if that would be a bit too rude but it made me laugh so I'm glad other people did too :)
really nice looking ride, sadly my cute thief ran into a fox security guard so I had to give him some time off this week aswell
oh no I hope he's ok!
@@Ali_Clarkson bit of a limp but he seems mostly ok
They don’t sell them bikes where I live. I looked for one. Since I don’t have one. I just wanted one to try and have one in my collection. And if I found one where I live the seller thinks they are selling gold.
Great video of another bike build, I love your patio well trials course section how handy 😁
As a thought for your pedals what about using a nylon brush attachment on a drill to polish off the paint?
As always, sick vid! Now, you wont see me touching another set of carbon bars, ever, after my hasshtag carbon bars decided to implode
Very good Video👍
Thank you!
The jokes were so hilarious 😂😂I couldn’t stop laughing over the ask your parents part. Great video Ali.
I am still curious on that tapered fork on pure trials bike. was the head tube size 42 - 42 mm or something else? if it is, which headset cup you used? cheers
all the details are here ua-cam.com/video/2kkpwUOLF9A/v-deo.html
@@Ali_Clarkson I see, the frame has 44mm straight head tube. No hope for my 42mm....
anyway, thanks... Keep making awesome clips...Cheers!
7:53 love how you're focusing on the width of the rim while your finger is actively bleeding out lol
Wonder if ther is a break set that you can lock to hop side ways up rails lol 😂 I was doing it the other day my finger got so bad was hard to move it after 😂
welcome to the world of arm pump :P
it does make sense of having rim brakes on the front and disc brakes at the back
Love the Edgar wright references! What’s your favourite movie of his? I also fancy a cornetto
I’m probably gonna say Scott Pilgrim 👍🏻
@@Ali_Clarkson great choice
I also have an adamant frame with no disc brake mount. The v-brake mounts are a bit fu*ked.
Where do you find the carbon fork with disc brakes mount? What size do you need for the 1.5 taper? 0:33. Thanks
Ali, how do you go about bedding in disc brakes?
I wish I had all these nice bike part lying around to build my own bike
Nice rig, yellow route?
I’ve just been getting an old 231 x-lite 😁
You ever thought of using some of those aliexpress carbon mag wheels on a trials bike with discs? Fully rigid, no flex, I wonder if they would hold up
Nice one Ali! Always love a good bike build. See you at Bob mcgregor? 😁
Thanks David and yes you will!
@@Ali_Clarkson nice one 👍
Kind of a random question: What should I look for in a new bike?
My current bike is a Walmart bike and it works pretty well. It's probably the best Walmart bike I've ever seen, but I wanna get a new one eventually. What should I look for?
I love your videos! Keep it going, dude!
(Berm peak) did a video on buying your first mtb and what you should and should not look for
Here’s the link to the video
ua-cam.com/video/K882pvG395w/v-deo.html
I was thinking maybe 20 pounds And another great video always entertaining especially the things you come
had to google how heavy that was. I wish it was 20lbs haha
@@Ali_Clarkson yeah I did the same thing with Siri to find out how much 10 kg was I was thinking damn I wasn’t that far off 😁
Ha-ha, catlike even before any bikes entered the picture!
Schwalbe has a good knob trimmer, but clearly those wouldn't work on a Maxxis tire, lol.
damn these compatibility standards! ;P
Avid ultimates were the best v-brakes ever!!!
And SD7 were and still are the best cable levers,I even run them on my trail hardtail MTB with BB7 cable disk calipers.
@@fujiuser1968 yep, they were much better feeling than the ultimate levers
@@bengray5013 yeah I didn't like how the barrel adjuster wasn't actually threaded into the lever body, when I ran my brakes with minimum spring tension it would rattle and even sit proud slightly and pull back in when I pulled the brake...very annoying
Ever thought of doing a 20” trials bike
I think that would be pretty interesting to see what you think and how you feel riding a 20”
I loathed V-brakes back in the day. Maybe I just never had ones worth a damn?
good v brakes set up well are actually amazing, I suspect you didn't have a fully pimp set up?
@@Ali_Clarkson Far from it. And also my wheels were permanently tacoed, maybe that was also contributing :)
Which brake do you like more on the rear? A4 or A2?
Hey i got a question on trials do you bed in the (disc) brakes or no?
yes
@@Ali_Clarkson thank you
@@orestisvas7277 no problem, to give some detail I usually use a bottle of clean water on the pads and rotor and ride around pulsing the brake(s). I add some more water to clean off the black residue that can appear and repeat until the brake has some bite and then the rest of the bedding in will happen through riding 👍🏻
@@Ali_Clarkson thanks for the details
Can someone please tell me what these frames are called
This is an Ozonys XS26 trials frame from around 2008
Ali has mor bikes than Sam Pilgrim soon 😂
I think I've got a problem :P
1:58 - it looks like you have a Cannondale Headshok in your shed, Sir. Is that the case?
U should try make a good trials like out of a BMX frame
try to use this type of frame but try making it into a mountain bike
Hi, Algorithm, do you think that when Mr Kitty (aka The Cute Thief) goes on holiday he packs his KITbag? Does he put his spending money in a kitty? Oh dear, these puns are a bit of a CATastrophe but I don’t do it on purr-puss! (I also apologise to Ali’s followers for whom English is not their first language if these ‘jokes’ don’t seem to make sense!)
DHF doesnt stand for front Ali! it stand for free ride. and DHR stands for race
tomatoes tomatoes :P
Awesome video Ali! I have been on the hunt for these Trialtech parts for a classic build I am doing but they are hardly in stocks anymore. Do you know if Trialtech is still in business?
how much degree of backsweep does that handle bar has???
Hello, Ali!
Hello!
@@Ali_Clarkson Keep it up with the videos, I love them!!!
What is the wheel base measurement Ali?
1080ish I think 👍🏻
@@Ali_Clarkson maybe it was the camera perspective - it looked small at times so I had to ask. Thanks for the reply! 😁
Man your cat is so cute
Oh that poor front rim......bad grinder
it loves it!
its so sad that youtube somehow did not sent any notification
👍👍
Is that a bug on your fork crown toward the end of the vid?
You should make the rear of on of your bikes a combination of rim and disc brakes pls
That's not possible
I clicked on your vid because of the cat 👌
Then he’s doing his job well 😄
You should do a range of carbon parts called "fashionably black stuff" - F.B.S. technologies Ltd
8:08 did you realize you have a piece of something sticking out of your index finger?
probably the piece of skin that was previously keeping my blood in
cats and mod trials bikes? You have my attention.
10:56 ask your parents
😂
👌
"A nice pile of rubber to add to my collection" ask ya parents...
why not use both brakes?
not sure what you mean? I spent a lot of the start of the video explaining why I'm using the two different types though :P
@@Ali_Clarkson i mean mounting 2 breaks on a wheel
@@chrismade123 ahhh ok, someone else mentioned this idea too and I think that would be really funny…I should try it!
I entered a trials competition on a... competition trials bike? Sounds off.
haha yeah!