As much as the match says about the poor condition of the England squad, the comments in this thread also show the lack of values and mediocrity of the people who post them. It's a sport people. You need to respect the players and the efforts they put during months and years while you're sitting on your couch making comments.
@@sebp66 coping is a nationnal sport in england, "yeah t'wasn't the fr*nch that played well it was us playing poorly" same energy as "it wasn't the french who invaded in 1066 it was the norman" haha.
@@tijnjansen7609 I think France played well in this game. Yes England was not at the same level but had France played bad they still wouldn't have scored so many points. If England had been better I still think France would have won but the score would have been closer like last year with the 25-13.
@@dulls8475 In 1066 Normandy was a duchy since 911, vassal to the King of France, it never was a kingdom. William was the duke of Normandy, like an earl of East Anglia in England. There were a majority of Northmen's descendants in Normandy upper class, like in there was in the Danelaw, at least before St. Brice's Day massacre of the Danes. And the Prussians invaded France two times, then, as Germans, two times more. Absolutely no link with rugby or football.
I'm a french rugby fan, in my 50's, I meen I have seen many many matchs of the Tournoi, 5 and then 6 nations, but for the first time in the Tournoi history, France is much better than England in each element of our sport, defense, attack, scrum, etc...
@@levhuwanemaluleka2078 don't think think they can meet in the semi the way the draw is structured. They will either be meeting them in the quarters or the final itself. As an Irishman I certainly know which one I'd rather meet them in 😏
I don't know if we would have beaten you because you have a great team but I still get the feeling that we underplayed in Ireland. But then again It's also because Ireland defense press very high that we had less opportunity to develop our play style. England basically let us do whatever we wanted to do, yersterday.
Very nice analysis ! As french I did enjoyed that game very much but also felt for english team and fans the frustration we knew in the past of not being able to fight back at the right level on this game. Lot of work indeed to do, it will be difficult to set a high standard for the world cup, hope at least England will defend his rank fiercely there.
Frenchman here, great content mate. I think we mustn't be too harsh on the English, as they had a moment in the early second half where they could have turned the dynamic of the game and if it wasn't for a few mistakes the score would not have been so one-sided. Plus, every team has their rough patches, look at France in the 2010's! Can't wait for the opening game against NZ at the Stade de France, it's going to be EPIC!!
Although england lost badly saturday, here in France we're counting on english pride next week to trample on irish hopes for the grandslam. You can do it !
France are playing how the ABs used to play. And with Dupont running the ship it's wonderful to watch. He will go down as one of the greatest to Don the 9 jersey. AB fan..
The current France vs Ireland rivalry is something that a few of my fellow Kiwis would probably consider close to the 90s ABs vs Wallabies one. Both teams are leading the way with bringing crowds back to the game after a couple years of being crowdless 🙌
@The Black Jersey I wonder what the disconnect is with kiwi fans turning up to games (club). Even the Arg Ab game in christchurch struggled to sellout last year. Anyway, France offence seems to mimic Ireland's tip play plus their unstructured style which I reckon is more dangerous to Ireland's style. I really hope Joe has something cooking for the boys come RWC
NZ is in a cost of living crisis and the public would rather watch on tv I guess… rugby is dying over here in NZ, I’ll keep my Instagram as a place to cover NZ rugby and make my core fan base happy, but it’s pretty safe to say rugby is thriving far more in Europe!
Congratulations France, brilliant performance, especially after Ireland made France look ordinary two weeks prior. The beauty of sport, you never know until the final whistle. England were not poor, they were made to look poor by a fantastic performance on the day. Play the same two teams next week, and you will get a different result. As an English rugby fan I am pleased England lost so heavily, now the ERFU must realise what damage they did by employing Eddie Jones for too long. Feb 2019 England 44 France 8. 2022 Ireland had a series win in NZ. The AB lost a lot of games over the past few years, sport like people goes in cycles. Personally I celebrate the sport I love rather than attack a country or a team.
Now England is experiencing what us French had 10 years ago. No inspiration, players looking like lost on the pitch. And I've never seen England making so many knock on. But they will be back in the game shortly. I can't see them playing crap for 6-8 years like we did (remember between 2011 and 2019, we were aweful)
No harm in optimism. I try to stay in between because pessimism always leads to undermining the joy in life, while constant optimism can be a bit of a track to always being disappointed. I really hope that my Borthwick opinion gets proven wrong cause I’m not keen to see England follow in Wales’ footsteps. Was born in Wellington but I’ll still be proud of my ancestry 🙌
As a french fan it's weird to see our greatest rival to be so weak, we need a much stronger England in the 6 nations, i hope they will recover quickly for rugby.
Yeah I really hope that England can take away as much as they did from the Scotland game, from this one. In an ideal world I’d like to be proven wrong about Borthwick 😅
French too, I do agree but my thinking goes to Wales too. I remember being a kid and at the time in 70s the big game was Wales France, very great games. Hope Wales will be back too. Cheers to all rugby fan whatever the colors they support!
I wanted this 18 years long winless streak at Twickenham to finally end but never in my wildest dreams I would have imagine something like that to happen. One of the best performances les Bleus under Galthié management did for sure and I think that loss to Ireland definitely woke us up. It's crazy to think we got hammered 44-8 in the same stadium just 4 years ago before that. I knew we were going to finally win soon enough because we were close in 2020 & 2021 but wow I never thought we would end the English winning streak at home by giving them their "France-New Zealand 2015" in Twickenham anytime soon. Btw Ben O'Keefe did a great job yesterday and he deserves to be the referee of the WC Final imo (except if NZ is in the Final ofc). As for the Tournament, except if a miracle happen, Ireland will be Grand Slam Champion.
If you pose the video at 10.30 you see how insanely well in tune Dupont and Ntamak are. Ntamak start rushing even before Dupont starts his quick while all the other players are still looking at Dupont to see what he will do.
That’s what comes out of picking a club-level combo as the first-choice at test level. The scary thing is though, that Maxime Lucu and Matthieu Jalibert are just as in tune with each other and are the second-choice combo; while they’ve also been Bordeaux teammates…
Oh I totally agree with that finer details comment; I missed so much of the stuff I found while researching for the video, when I re-played the game. Watching it back at 15% speed helps a lot 😂😂😂 Cheers for watching my man 😎
I do not understand those who say that the French do not respect the adversary. Of course you will always find people writing nonsense on social networks but they are everywhere. But it must be said that between France and England it is special. There is a rivalry that goes beyond rugby. So such a victory whether it is the English or the French is tastier than such a victory against another team. If England had beaten France at the Stade de France we would have had the same reactions.
Very nice review! The S in Cros is pronounced, so it sounds like the English word Cross. I watch the Six Nations matches on France2 otherwise I would also have pronounced it Cro. Nice bonus is that I don't have to listen to the annoying English commentators lol
As a french baby, I can tell you this : It was the first time in my life I wasnt in fear against England. Usually the games against them are so tuff.. but this one oh my lord
When a team have their tails up, they can deliver perfection. The french team a few years back were used to get absolutely obliterated by the All Blacks. I recall a few nightmares we had to suffer notably attention home. Thank god, we got rid of negative string.
Only thing making rugby beautiful is the players’ ability to follow through with what they’ve been coached to do. I’m just attempting to point out the parts I notice 😂🙌
Coming from an Irishman, it’s sad to see England be pushed over so easily. The millennium cup is always one of the best fixtures of the six nations but (without being too cocky) it doesn’t seem like it’s going to be too contentious this year. No disrespect to the quality of this French side, that match was a demonstration of their dominance. However, there’s too much talk of individual responsibility in that English side. This was a clear systematic failure. So much talk in the run-up about Smith v Farrell. As if that was the deciding factor. Now commentators are dragging out the “we should’ve kept Jones” and cannibalising Smith. The issues in this side seem to be bigger than just one coach or who’s playing at 10. I did not expect to see the English pack so unfit!! Clearly, a rearranging is in order. Ps: my heart goes out to Ellis Genge, to captain his country for the first time in a match like that would hurt anyone’s pride.
I’ll just ask the question so I can give a proper answer, at what parts of the video are we mentioning? Tell me the time stamps for a couple and I’ll do my best to reply with a decent answer 🙌
@@TheBlackJersey At 12:00 for example, Damien Penaud is running at full speed, while the english defenders are in slow-mo, which I considere an unfair advantage... I hope the IRU does something about it to make the sport more interesting.
I am very happy with this French victory, we started this tournament with doubts, this match against England erases all the questions, good luck to the English fans for the trip to Ireland, Aviva Stadium is a hell.
Well this is sport, every teams/athletes have their ups and downs - I’m glad France is in good form at the moment, but nothing is ever granted. Till next time!
As a French, it would be good that England come back to a good level soon enough. The real Crunch takes place with the Perfide Albion, the games against Ireland don't have the same taste and passion.
Hi! I am French and I don't speak English well. I saw this video style for my first time. It's an excellent job. Mouvement. Arrows. Rounds for players situation. But iam sorry for you England. Sorry....good game.... Or not... Good luck and have a good Sunday. Thanks.
This is a normal cycle for every team in the world. Every rugby team has up and down, you can be an AB, an Irish/French or English man, your team will at some point shine and then get into some bad times. I'm not afraid for England, this terrible performance might be a turn over for this young team. They will be prepared for World cup, no doubt about that. Greeting from France, we were in this situation not so long ago ...
Oh yeah? When was the last time the ABs got stuffed by +40 points AT HOME? Hahaha poms, this is ultimate humiliation, on a par with when you got dumped out of your home RWC back in '15 IN THE GROUP STAGES!
There's one thing you missed during England's try (around 9:00). Farrel doesn't just push Cros, he tackles him, then gets up, and pushes him on the ground far away from the play so the referee doesn't notice (look at him at 9:35). A few seconds later, guess which defenders being late to come back cause the big opening ? Cros. There are lots of moments like this in every match, it's part of rugby, and I find it so funny I couldn't leave it unnoticed.
I cut Cros’ late joining of the defensive line out of the video. My original draft was about 29 minutes so I cut out the parts I didn’t think the average viewer would care for 😂👌
I don’t think Borthwick is the issue, but probably he is not the solution neither. The issue started with Eddie Jones who avoided then slowed down the renewal process of this english team. Eddie kept some players that were in their prime in 2019 but have fallen short of being international references in the recent years . To be fair, the problem of generation renewal is even more structural in england, the RFU closed league approach is the original sin leading to this situation.
You can only congratulate France - they are a quality team. It was interesting to hear the commentators talk about how the premiership is full of ‘heads up’ rugby and ‘flair’ and while it might be, has it also just become an echo chamber of fairly average rugby with weak defence and? It’s starting to look that way. Yes, there are structural, defensive and offensive issues in the national team, we have to accept that our players just aren’t good enough. Depressing, but we are where we are. I felt getting rid of Jones was the right idea, but the rot in English rugby goes deeper than that.
I am Irish and I enjoyed seeing England getting thrashed. This was especially after the dreadful game that they and Wales served up a few weeks back. I wanted Italy to beat Wales too, unfortunately they shot themselves in the foot but I am sure France will defeat the awful Welsh team this weekend by a record score. Ireland will show no mercy for England and I expect them to win comfortably.
People are entitled to their opinions...you best support your own team.....we are England fans ...We are a shambles at the moment....and that's the truth... Red rose ...white top ....England fan....🏴❤️🌹
Well played the French, we are poor but at the same time we simply doesn’t have the same calibre of players France has. U20 got pumped and now the senior team, it’s no coincidence, we may have the largest pool of professional players but very few are world class, the domestic league is in tatters, need to deep dive to get to the root of many of these issues. I do think the RFU hanged on to Jones for too long, since not many young players were blooded since the 2019 WC and the style / alleged culture doesn’t cultivate potentials. Just hope the players give it the best shot next week and redeem some pride. Borthwick is the right man for now to get back to the basics but he is not going to set the world alight so we will see.
England have had to take an unnecessary amount of extra time learning a game plan due to Jones’ sacking; which lead to them not having the proper time to research the opposition. The lack of numbers on the blindside ahead of Ollivon’s second try definitely exposed that…
Put simply, it was the best crunch ever for the french and the worst for the english. Yet overall, it was one of the most beautiful Crunch ever. Some sequences from this match are definitely going to be used in rugby school for years.
Yup, it’ll be able to teach aspiring coaches about plenty of set-move ideas and also about combination-building so tries can be made from nothing! France were very structured until Ollivon’s second try, they just totally let loose for the two by Penaud 🇫🇷
@TheBlackJersey I hope to see england rebound from that and find the key to rebuild the team like France has. We want to see many more incredible crunch.
The reason that Dombrandt was out on the wing marking Penaud for the 6th (and 7th) tries was an injury among England's backs (Lawrence) after the two on the bench had been brought on for tactical reasons. Why Dombrandt got the post, and why out on the wing, is probably never going to be explained. For the 6th at least Freddie Steward should probably be asked some questions about why he couldn't get close enough even to make a token effort at a tackle.
😂This round was reserved for Wales winning the wooden spoon, while our problems are off field and temporary, England clubs going under and this performance, I think they should look in their own back yard, 😝
I think the next World Cup trophy will land in north hemisphere for the next 4 years, Rassie is not done whining about the refereing, Australia is… like England at the moment, and the AB’s are now loosing vs Ireland too. It will be either for Ireland or France, and it will bring freshness to planet rugby ❤
Totally agree with the Boks. Their focus on referees is distracting them from fixing inherent flaws in their game. While certain other creators amass thousands of views for ref-blaming, the Boks’ refusal to welcome crowds back to stadiums with expansive attacking rugby is a far bigger problem for them. Points differential saw them fail to win The Rugby Championship; despite them having by far the best squad and coaches of the four teams. Ireland and France are leading the way with welcoming fans back into the stadia through easily-marketable beautiful attacking structures, while the Southern Hemisphere are too busy using SANZAAR to undermine the authority of World Rugby.
@@TheBlackJersey exactly, as I’ve said in another of your vids the biggest threat for the SARU is actually… Rassie himself. I think South Africa wants to go the right way though with 3 of their provinces now in the last 16 of the euro Champions Cup, they want to understand what makes european refereeing and playing that special. Rassie should take notice… it’s that way in any other sports, I’ve been playing volley ball and table tennis for decades now, our youth have travelled to Japan to understand what makes Japan’s youth players development so effective, and now France is the 3rd best youth nation in the world behind China and Japan with 2 of our U19 boys kicking top 10 senior players, chinese included. We’ve learn that way in football, with guys moving to foreign top leagues in Spain or Italy in the 90’s, same in Hand ball, same in volley ball with most of our french squad moving in italian or russian leagues. And now France is the leading team sports nation in the world.
Also that’s why New Zealand has always been doing that good in many sports cos’ as insulars your government focuses on travelling and see the whole world for a better understanding of it. NZ players in the french TOP 14, the best league in Europe, have always been consistent, way more consistent than the SA ones for instance who have too many ups and downs (see… Cheslin Kolbe recently).
Je ne comprends ceux qui disent que les français ne respectent pas l'adversaire. Bien sûr vous trouverez toujours des gens qui écrivent n'importe quoi sur les réseaux sociaux mais il y en a partout. Mais il faut dire qu'entre la France et l'Angleterre c'est particulier. Il y a une rivalité qui va au-delà du rugby. Donc une telle victoire que ce soient les anglais ou les français est plus savoureuses qu'une telle victoire contre une autre équipe. Si l'Angleterre avait battu la France au Stade de France on aurait eu les mêmes réactions.
Glad to see people aren’t too mad about it aye, initial comments had me worried for a bit 😂😂😂😂 Cheers for watching the video bro, you’re always welcome back to the channel 😎
@@TheBlackJersey a lot of people won’t like what we have turned into but it’s globally not just us bro. I’m about to subscribe. 😎 I want an apology when we win the World Cup though 😂🙏
I do agree with you about Borthwick being very young and inexperienced in international terms. I wonder if the RFU will have the nous to encourage him to find a more mature mentor to work alongside him - someone with whom he gels and respects. Unfortunately though English rugby’s problems are much greater than just the coaching set-up. The Premiership is not fit for purpose and currently isn’t providing the quality of players necessary to make the step up to international rugby. There are also massive financial issues plaguing the English game - two clubs, Worcester and Wasps, have already gone to the wall and rumours abound that they won’t be the only casualties! This is the ideal time for the RFU to show some balls and proper leadership (& tough love!) to restructure the game and make it competitive again. Complacency and arrogance has been English rugby’s Achilles heel for a considerable period of time. Several decades ago, Will Carling described the RFU as being run by 57 old farts, more concerned about maintaining their match day jollies and the corporate elements. I wonder if anything has changed since those days …?
I don’t trust the RFU at all and that statement from Will Carling is totally true. The best people for the job always need to be the ones considered and that’s now how it is in England right now. I feel bad for Borthwick, who has been parachuted into the role too early, in the same way that John Mitchell and Mario Ledesma were.
@@TheBlackJersey Completely agree with you about the RFU and Will Carling was spot on in his judgement. Unfortunately nothing has changed since WC’s day … too many brown nosers, who only have their own interests in mind! The parlous financial state though might mean they are forced to change. You are right about Borthwick - it’s come much too early in his coaching career and his right hand man, Kevin Sinfield, is also a relatively inexperienced Defence Coach, fresh out of Rugby League and just over a year at Leicester Tigers! The RFU acted to sack Eddie Jones after hearing boos ringing around Twickenham. There were boos again after Saturday’s match! Surely they won’t press the trigger once again …?
Good analysis mate. I was at the game and I have to say France were incredible. I'm very excited to see how they got on in the RWC! As an aside, that comment "as the British Empire continues to collapse so does their sporting teams" was pretty crass and immature. Firstly, English sport, aside from rugby, is in pretty good shape. Men's football have reached a WC Semi and a Euros final in the last 5 years, Women's football won the Euros, Men's cricket are World Champs in both ODIs and T20s and are playing v well in Test cricket. Women's rugby reached the WC final and won a load of Grand Slams on the bounce. Meanwhile, we've had record Olympic medal hauls in London, Rio and Tokyo!! Secondly, the British Empire ended in 1947 (or at the very latest 1997) depending on your historical perspective. So the comment about the Empire continuing to collapse was probably accurate 70 years ago, but not now. I'd just be careful with comments like that in the future, they detract from the excellent work you're doing.
Borthwick. " we will find out where we are against France and Ireland" Now we know. And it don't look good. Light years behind France Ireland SA etc. Oh joy we have Ireland away next week😅😅😅
I think the issue is deeper than the coach. It is reflective of RFUs systematic issues IE premiership losing two teams to financial issues. There under 20s were beat by 40. English have looked terrible since 2019 don't think it's the coach runs deeper
Yup, the anti-Eddie mob definitely worsened things though. The RFU parachuting Borthwick in so prematurely is probably the most obvious symptom of the massive problem; that is the RFU. The union has no idea how to think long-term.
@@TheBlackJersey i mean if you look at ireland for instance at first Ireland looked clunky but was because they were trying to unlearn old stuff from Joe which had put shackles on them and Andy had to to take at least 3 to 4 years to get Ireland running. Eddie may well of pulled them up bit more but i feel even with Eddie Jones England would still be poor cause of things that are wrong with rfu as a whole. Like Eddie was depending much like Wales on older aging players coming back that i feel are bit past it or are in the ending of careers. England after 2019 have not produced the talent for Eddie to use hense why results were poor he knew what was below the starting 15 wasn't that great. The spine of the English team is old much like Wales.
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First time I have seen you and really impressed. England are a way off but I do wonder whether they over trained and were a bit leggy. Saw a leg session clip by the RFU and they could hardly walk. Take that to France and they kill you. Without detracting or sugar coating the injury to Lawrence leaving Ludlam or Dombrandt against Penneau, the freak touchline try, are all things that turn a good beating into a rout. We are a long way off the top of World Rugby, but Borthwick and his new team need a cycle to build things.
Frankly speaking and after reviewing match I am not sure Englist team was so bad as described. French team was simply in a very good day. As usual intention was here and execution too. Against Ireland execution was low in spite of the hight intensity of intention. Let us wait for what England can do against Ireland. England can upset Irish team.
I think England were lost without leadership on the pitch and that some fundamental flaws in their game got exposed big time… France definitely deserved to win big!
Yeah I’ve got nothing but respect for his body language in the interview. Have seen a few clips floating around and I admire that he remained composed on a pretty bittersweet day.
France dictate the timing and control the field from the first minute of the game.The first line are quick to go on the ball, clean around and give space and time for Dupont to do his magic .
You may not have seen Aus 76 Eng 0 then? I would disagree with you on Borthwick being the issue in Eddies coaching team. They both worked well together, and I think Eddie lost his way when Borthwick left. But the jury is out on Eng/Borthwick atm. Lets give him some time..Woodward took an aweful longtime to get a worldbeating team and Farrell got things wrong with Ireland in the last worldcup. The only team who manages to get consistency when they change coach is NZ as they plan well..and something Eddie Jones was supposed to do for Eng (i.e. have a coaching setup for future changes..this doesn't look to have been done).
Yeah I agree with you. England will bounce back up for sure. Borthwick just had a few months to coach this team. It's not that much. But the 76-0 against Australia was with a third rate English team tho not the perfect line up like they tried to put against France yesterday. So It doesn't have the same impact.
I won’t have time to get them up before the tournament finishes but I’ll mention a bit about them in my post-6N autopsy and the pre-RWC Depth Chart video 🙌
The RFU and the premiership hold a lot of responsibility here for how bad england are. The media also play a part, making up an air of invincibility, Christ, they were saying that Steward was the best full back in the world a couple of weeks ago 🤷♂️. Competent and a fine physical specimen, yes he stands out against a mediocre premiership opposition but as soon as a he’s up against a cognitive team he’s average. Not necessarily his fault, the team around is either average, playing on past reputation or just downright not at the pictures! “Give Borthwick and his players a chance”, “it’s a new coach and new team” it was said. I’m no fan of Eddie Jones, however sacking him was the worst decision the RFU have made and, it’s not as if they all just started playing rugby yesterday
The French team will dominate Rugby for a while because of this golden generation they have . Let’s stop this Peaking too soon business . Dupont will retire as the greatest player to ever play the game . WC incoming .
@@TheBlackJersey Either we have seen nothing yet or they will implode. Contrary to most, I can't get but be worried about the true level of how they play - we have had a taste of it with the first games of the VI Nations Tournament, not quite convincing...
England need a better rugby union committee that actually understands the game and players that know how to play rugby and don’t buy into the media narrative of picking who should or shouldn’t coach or play for your smoked England rugby team
Yup, the RFU are paying big time for listening to the keyboard warriors. I’m not sure wether to be thinking “I told you so” about Borthwick or to feel bad for him at this point aye 😅
I don’t think that we can call any team ranked higher than 16th place a minor nation. I wouldn’t be surprised to see plenty more RWC upsets after 2019 😏
France were phenomenal whereas England's execution was well below what was needed to perform their gameplan. France dominated at the brekad defensively. Danty, Alldritt, Cros and Ollivon were all excellent at getting turnovers and stopping England getting quick ball.
Really think the English (for years) have a bad sense of their domestic league and the quality of it world wide. I watch the premiership most weeks, and while there’s some nice tries and throwing the ball around, the teams are not to a high European quality, yes the salary cap has reduced their ability, but they are well off the standard of the top European teams. Says the same about their players too. Even teams like Edinburgh, Connacht, Bulls, Bordeaux (mid table teams in their leagues) would finish top 4 in the prem
we are a young team & unlike past teams lack international experience & to be fair we also lack a bit of street wise awareness, however that doesn't excuse trys given away due to penalties & just general lack of attention to were the damn ball is. we have been near or at the top of the game for a long time & now it's time for someone else that's just how it is, 2- 3 years from now England will be a different team & look back on these past years as just a bad patch, it's not like southern hemispheres are playing to their best atm either, the whole game is evolving atm
Nothing but the truth. They’re paying a massive price for caving to the miserable keyboard warriors who are too fuelled by instant-gratification to understand the concept of momentum.
England have a long way back to return to the top table in world rugby. Borthwick should now concentrate on the 3 R's - Beef, Brains and Backs. Beef up the physicality, use the brain to be more aware of strategy and tactics on the field, and train the backs to be more creative, fluid and accurate.
@@noamfinnegan8663 Against England, it was a conquering French side and more in form. This win at Twickenham was the main objective of French staff during this tournament. Greg Aldritt refreshed, François Cros and Jonathan Danty back on the field. Danty is more important than Dupont ! We have several great scrum-halves behind Dupont. Le Garrec and Couilloud are my favourites. Danty is irreplaceable as a number 12 in this team.
Let's not pass hasty judgement on England. As a team, they looked rather dislocated from their game plan.The French imposed their will on England with impunity. Additionally, Les Blues exuded high morale unlike their English counterparts who appeared lackluster. I don't think theirs is a coaching problem, but probably the trickle down effect of a misfiring RFU. However, there's still time before the RWC for the RFU to put it's house in order and give fans their money's worth; as well as avoid embarrassment.
As much as the match says about the poor condition of the England squad, the comments in this thread also show the lack of values and mediocrity of the people who post them.
It's a sport people. You need to respect the players and the efforts they put during months and years while you're sitting on your couch making comments.
Some of the twitter posts I’ve seen have been crazy. This comments section is far more tame compared to a lot of other places 😅
I’ll pin this comment here as a wee reminder to the usual suspects who will come out of the woodworks to undermine mental health importance 😣
@@sebp66 coping is a nationnal sport in england, "yeah t'wasn't the fr*nch that played well it was us playing poorly" same energy as "it wasn't the french who invaded in 1066 it was the norman" haha.
@@tijnjansen7609 I think France played well in this game. Yes England was not at the same level but had France played bad they still wouldn't have scored so many points. If England had been better I still think France would have won but the score would have been closer like last year with the 25-13.
@@dulls8475 In 1066 Normandy was a duchy since 911, vassal to the King of France, it never was a kingdom. William was the duke of Normandy, like an earl of East Anglia in England. There were a majority of Northmen's descendants in Normandy upper class, like in there was in the Danelaw, at least before St. Brice's Day massacre of the Danes. And the Prussians invaded France two times, then, as Germans, two times more. Absolutely no link with rugby or football.
I'm a french rugby fan, in my 50's, I meen I have seen many many matchs of the Tournoi, 5 and then 6 nations, but for the first time in the Tournoi history, France is much better than England in each element of our sport, defense, attack, scrum, etc...
I’ve truly never see France look so convincing against England before. I hope I was wrong about Borthwick for England’s sake!
Agree mate and I’m a Yorkshire man
It was the All Blues
They play an agressive rugby with perpetual movement
Many talents in this team.
Not sure we would have stopped France In Dublin if they'd played like that , really hoping we avoid them in the rwc
They might meet Quarter final or semi final.
@@levhuwanemaluleka2078 don't think think they can meet in the semi the way the draw is structured. They will either be meeting them in the quarters or the final itself. As an Irishman I certainly know which one I'd rather meet them in 😏
No check out the draw so Irland,france,Newzealand and South Africa will all have to meet before the final.
I don't know if we would have beaten you because you have a great team but I still get the feeling that we underplayed in Ireland. But then again It's also because Ireland defense press very high that we had less opportunity to develop our play style. England basically let us do whatever we wanted to do, yersterday.
I don’t want to avoid Ireland, I am French and I want a revenge! You beat us home, and I want to beat you in France… good luck though!
Very nice analysis ! As french I did enjoyed that game very much but also felt for english team and fans the frustration we knew in the past of not being able to fight back at the right level on this game. Lot of work indeed to do, it will be difficult to set a high standard for the world cup, hope at least England will defend his rank fiercely there.
Frenchman here, great content mate. I think we mustn't be too harsh on the English, as they had a moment in the early second half where they could have turned the dynamic of the game and if it wasn't for a few mistakes the score would not have been so one-sided. Plus, every team has their rough patches, look at France in the 2010's!
Can't wait for the opening game against NZ at the Stade de France, it's going to be EPIC!!
Although england lost badly saturday, here in France we're counting on english pride next week to trample on irish hopes for the grandslam. You can do it !
France are playing how the ABs used to play. And with Dupont running the ship it's wonderful to watch. He will go down as one of the greatest to Don the 9 jersey. AB fan..
The current France vs Ireland rivalry is something that a few of my fellow Kiwis would probably consider close to the 90s ABs vs Wallabies one. Both teams are leading the way with bringing crowds back to the game after a couple years of being crowdless 🙌
Respect to the Boks 🙌
@The Black Jersey I wonder what the disconnect is with kiwi fans turning up to games (club). Even the Arg Ab game in christchurch struggled to sellout last year. Anyway, France offence seems to mimic Ireland's tip play plus their unstructured style which I reckon is more dangerous to Ireland's style. I really hope Joe has something cooking for the boys come RWC
NZ is in a cost of living crisis and the public would rather watch on tv I guess… rugby is dying over here in NZ, I’ll keep my Instagram as a place to cover NZ rugby and make my core fan base happy, but it’s pretty safe to say rugby is thriving far more in Europe!
@@TheBlackJerseyin 10 years time rugby won't be a game we'll recognise.
Congratulations France, brilliant performance, especially after Ireland made France look ordinary two weeks prior. The beauty of sport, you never know until the final whistle. England were not poor, they were made to look poor by a fantastic performance on the day. Play the same two teams next week, and you will get a different result. As an English rugby fan I am pleased England lost so heavily, now the ERFU must realise what damage they did by employing Eddie Jones for too long. Feb 2019 England 44 France 8. 2022 Ireland had a series win in NZ. The AB lost a lot of games over the past few years, sport like people goes in cycles. Personally I celebrate the sport I love rather than attack a country or a team.
Ireland made France look ordinary ?!? Only 6 points up in the 71st mns … cannot wait for the next meeting !
Now England is experiencing what us French had 10 years ago. No inspiration, players looking like lost on the pitch.
And I've never seen England making so many knock on.
But they will be back in the game shortly. I can't see them playing crap for 6-8 years like we did (remember between 2011 and 2019, we were aweful)
They are not at this point. I mean, France were so bad 10 years ago that they lost against Italy and ended up with the wooden spoon in 2013
@@gontrandjojo9747 It was the Saint-André period... What the hell was he doing as french manager????
The worst ever known...
It was not an humiliation but just a good game for an awesome french team. Great respect for both teams.
No harm in optimism. I try to stay in between because pessimism always leads to undermining the joy in life, while constant optimism can be a bit of a track to always being disappointed.
I really hope that my Borthwick opinion gets proven wrong cause I’m not keen to see England follow in Wales’ footsteps. Was born in Wellington but I’ll still be proud of my ancestry 🙌
As a french fan it's weird to see our greatest rival to be so weak, we need a much stronger England in the 6 nations, i hope they will recover quickly for rugby.
Yeah I really hope that England can take away as much as they did from the Scotland game, from this one. In an ideal world I’d like to be proven wrong about Borthwick 😅
French too, I do agree but my thinking goes to Wales too. I remember being a kid and at the time in 70s the big game was Wales France, very great games. Hope Wales will be back too. Cheers to all rugby fan whatever the colors they support!
" we need a much stronger England " why exactly ?
@@jessebongo46 If you asked this question then you need to watch football, you will enjoy.
@@brunolopez8614 .....you haven't answered the question.
I wanted this 18 years long winless streak at Twickenham to finally end but never in my wildest dreams I would have imagine something like that to happen. One of the best performances les Bleus under Galthié management did for sure and I think that loss to Ireland definitely woke us up.
It's crazy to think we got hammered 44-8 in the same stadium just 4 years ago before that. I knew we were going to finally win soon enough because we were close in 2020 & 2021 but wow I never thought we would end the English winning streak at home by giving them their "France-New Zealand 2015" in Twickenham anytime soon. Btw Ben O'Keefe did a great job yesterday and he deserves to be the referee of the WC Final imo (except if NZ is in the Final ofc).
As for the Tournament, except if a miracle happen, Ireland will be Grand Slam Champion.
I think we all know O’Keeffe will be refereeing the final… #BackTo2007
If you pose the video at 10.30 you see how insanely well in tune Dupont and Ntamak are. Ntamak start rushing even before Dupont starts his quick while all the other players are still looking at Dupont to see what he will do.
That’s what comes out of picking a club-level combo as the first-choice at test level. The scary thing is though, that Maxime Lucu and Matthieu Jalibert are just as in tune with each other and are the second-choice combo; while they’ve also been Bordeaux teammates…
Bro love it!!! Definitely found the algorithm too 🔥
It’s a funny old thing the algorithm my bro, glad you enjoyed. Shot for keeping me on my toes and inspiring the shorter introductions 😂🙌
@@TheBlackJersey haha bro!!! I was about to say, the storytelling at the start had me hooked
@@RugbyLover86 haha I definitely will when I live somewhere with normal reception!
He’s said it in like four of my videos now 😂
Very nice analysis, smart, complete.
France out played England, well done france 👏👏👏🇫🇷
A deserving win for sure!
Brilliant work, small margins and making sense of the finer details missed while watching live!!
Oh I totally agree with that finer details comment; I missed so much of the stuff I found while researching for the video, when I re-played the game. Watching it back at 15% speed helps a lot 😂😂😂
Cheers for watching my man 😎
Bonne chance aux Anglais pour un bon match face aux Irlandais. Good spirit 👍
I do not understand those who say that the French do not respect the adversary.
Of course you will always find people writing nonsense on social networks but they are everywhere.
But it must be said that between France and England it is special.
There is a rivalry that goes beyond rugby.
So such a victory whether it is the English or the French is tastier than such a victory against another team.
If England had beaten France at the Stade de France we would have had the same reactions.
Very nice review! The S in Cros is pronounced, so it sounds like the English word Cross. I watch the Six Nations matches on France2 otherwise I would also have pronounced it Cro. Nice bonus is that I don't have to listen to the annoying English commentators lol
Cheers for the support man. I’ll take the comment on board 🙌
As a french baby, I can tell you this : It was the first time in my life I wasnt in fear against England. Usually the games against them are so tuff.. but this one oh my lord
VIVE LA FRANCE
+ Flament was a number 10 and 15 when he was young. He is quick and see the gaps
Yeah that's definitely helped him!
@@TheBlackJersey He began to play as a pro in England, doing uni at the same time, he played for the Wasps.
When a team have their tails up, they can deliver perfection. The french team a few years back were used to get absolutely obliterated by the All Blacks. I recall a few nightmares we had to suffer notably attention home. Thank god, we got rid of negative string.
Great analysis, makes rugby beautiful. Thank you for that.
Only thing making rugby beautiful is the players’ ability to follow through with what they’ve been coached to do. I’m just attempting to point out the parts I notice 😂🙌
Nice fast work, thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
Coming from an Irishman, it’s sad to see England be pushed over so easily. The millennium cup is always one of the best fixtures of the six nations but (without being too cocky) it doesn’t seem like it’s going to be too contentious this year. No disrespect to the quality of this French side, that match was a demonstration of their dominance.
However, there’s too much talk of individual responsibility in that English side. This was a clear systematic failure. So much talk in the run-up about Smith v Farrell. As if that was the deciding factor. Now commentators are dragging out the “we should’ve kept Jones” and cannibalising Smith. The issues in this side seem to be bigger than just one coach or who’s playing at 10.
I did not expect to see the English pack so unfit!! Clearly, a rearranging is in order.
Ps: my heart goes out to Ellis Genge, to captain his country for the first time in a match like that would hurt anyone’s pride.
Big respect for Genge for sure. Was the only starting forward who had an above average performance and held it together well in the interview.
Great analysis, thanks. What editing technique did you use to have one team on slow motion while the other one is at full speed on the same footage ?
I’ll just ask the question so I can give a proper answer, at what parts of the video are we mentioning? Tell me the time stamps for a couple and I’ll do my best to reply with a decent answer 🙌
@@TheBlackJersey At 12:00 for example, Damien Penaud is running at full speed, while the english defenders are in slow-mo, which I considere an unfair advantage... I hope the IRU does something about it to make the sport more interesting.
I am very happy with this French victory, we started this tournament with doubts, this match against England erases all the questions, good luck to the English fans for the trip to Ireland, Aviva Stadium is a hell.
Ireland by 20 💯
Well this is sport, every teams/athletes have their ups and downs - I’m glad France is in good form at the moment, but nothing is ever granted. Till next time!
No question, we saw two teams at totally different ends of that spectrum in this game 🙌
As a French, it would be good that England come back to a good level soon enough. The real Crunch takes place with the Perfide Albion, the games against Ireland don't have the same taste and passion.
Hi! I am French and I don't speak English well. I saw this video style for my first time. It's an excellent job. Mouvement. Arrows. Rounds for players situation. But iam sorry for you England. Sorry....good game.... Or not... Good luck and have a good Sunday. Thanks.
Gracias
Don’t feel sorry for not speaking English well at all man, you’re absolutely welcome back to my channel for as many views as you want 🙏
@@hanoitripper1809 you speak very good french
@@camembertdalembert6323 vielen dank für deine netten worte mein freund
il ne faut pas s'apitoyer sur l'Angleterre, il vaut mieux fêter les Français. Les temps passent et elle reviendra.
Very nice analysis mate 😀
Cheers for watching Eric, hope you enjoy more of my videos mate 🙏
We love Dupont
As an Irish man, this demolition was a pure joy to watch😊.
Ahaha 🍀🫶🇨🇵 greetings from France 😉
As a French, i am happy for the victory and sad for the English. No joy for me.
Yes it was very enjoyable to crush the English that much , and next week it is your Irish go for it ! 😀
Cheers, Buddy, Sláinte ! Erin Go Bra ! As a French, too...
@@chemcom276 No joy what ? Winning should be enjoyable no ?
This is a normal cycle for every team in the world. Every rugby team has up and down, you can be an AB, an Irish/French or English man, your team will at some point shine and then get into some bad times.
I'm not afraid for England, this terrible performance might be a turn over for this young team. They will be prepared for World cup, no doubt about that.
Greeting from France, we were in this situation not so long ago ...
Oh yeah? When was the last time the ABs got stuffed by +40 points AT HOME? Hahaha poms, this is ultimate humiliation, on a par with when you got dumped out of your home RWC back in '15 IN THE GROUP STAGES!
WOWWWWWWW incredible work on this video, thumb up, +1 subscribe
There's one thing you missed during England's try (around 9:00). Farrel doesn't just push Cros, he tackles him, then gets up, and pushes him on the ground far away from the play so the referee doesn't notice (look at him at 9:35). A few seconds later, guess which defenders being late to come back cause the big opening ? Cros. There are lots of moments like this in every match, it's part of rugby, and I find it so funny I couldn't leave it unnoticed.
I cut Cros’ late joining of the defensive line out of the video. My original draft was about 29 minutes so I cut out the parts I didn’t think the average viewer would care for 😂👌
@@TheBlackJersey Understandable ^^
Aldritt and Danty were also recovering last matches and it looks like they're really back!
I’m psyched to see them playing well after injury 💯
I don’t think Borthwick is the issue, but probably he is not the solution neither.
The issue started with Eddie Jones who avoided then slowed down the renewal process of this english team. Eddie kept some players that were in their prime in 2019 but have fallen short of being international references in the recent years .
To be fair, the problem of generation renewal is even more structural in england, the RFU closed league approach is the original sin leading to this situation.
You can only congratulate France - they are a quality team. It was interesting to hear the commentators talk about how the premiership is full of ‘heads up’ rugby and ‘flair’ and while it might be, has it also just become an echo chamber of fairly average rugby with weak defence and? It’s starting to look that way. Yes, there are structural, defensive and offensive issues in the national team, we have to accept that our players just aren’t good enough. Depressing, but we are where we are. I felt getting rid of Jones was the right idea, but the rot in English rugby goes deeper than that.
I am Irish and I enjoyed seeing England getting thrashed. This was especially after the dreadful game that they and Wales served up a few weeks back. I wanted Italy to beat Wales too, unfortunately they shot themselves in the foot but I am sure France will defeat the awful Welsh team this weekend by a record score. Ireland will show no mercy for England and I expect them to win comfortably.
Bien dit mon ami !
took you long enough though ahy......lol
Une victoire comme ça, ça fait plaisir avant la coupe du monde
Excellent stuff.
Cheers for the ongoing support Douglas 😎
People are entitled to their opinions...you best support your own team.....we are England fans ...We are a shambles at the moment....and that's the truth... Red rose ...white top ....England fan....🏴❤️🌹
Bro, this was excellent. Instant subcribe. From a Pom.
Thanks for the sub! You’re welcome to watch as many of my videos as you want 🙏
American football next door is too laughable. Long live Rugby invented by our best enemies!
Well played the French, we are poor but at the same time we simply doesn’t have the same calibre of players France has. U20 got pumped and now the senior team, it’s no coincidence, we may have the largest pool of professional players but very few are world class, the domestic league is in tatters, need to deep dive to get to the root of many of these issues. I do think the RFU hanged on to Jones for too long, since not many young players were blooded since the 2019 WC and the style / alleged culture doesn’t cultivate potentials. Just hope the players give it the best shot next week and redeem some pride. Borthwick is the right man for now to get back to the basics but he is not going to set the world alight so we will see.
As an England fan there was nothing positive to take away from this game. We were outclassed in every area. Dreading the Ireland game lol
“As the British empire continues to collapse so do their sporting teams” 🙈 🔥 🙈 🔥 😢😢😢
England have had to take an unnecessary amount of extra time learning a game plan due to Jones’ sacking; which lead to them not having the proper time to research the opposition. The lack of numbers on the blindside ahead of Ollivon’s second try definitely exposed that…
"Thoroughly", is the answer.
Put simply, it was the best crunch ever for the french and the worst for the english.
Yet overall, it was one of the most beautiful Crunch ever.
Some sequences from this match are definitely going to be used in rugby school for years.
Yup, it’ll be able to teach aspiring coaches about plenty of set-move ideas and also about combination-building so tries can be made from nothing! France were very structured until Ollivon’s second try, they just totally let loose for the two by Penaud 🇫🇷
@TheBlackJersey I hope to see england rebound from that and find the key to rebuild the team like France has. We want to see many more incredible crunch.
The reason that Dombrandt was out on the wing marking Penaud for the 6th (and 7th) tries was an injury among England's backs (Lawrence) after the two on the bench had been brought on for tactical reasons. Why Dombrandt got the post, and why out on the wing, is probably never going to be explained. For the 6th at least Freddie Steward should probably be asked some questions about why he couldn't get close enough even to make a token effort at a tackle.
Did you notice Dombrandt stand at wing for set-pieces after Lawrence came off? If so, good spotting!
When Farrel holds Cros on the ground for the english try is it legal? Cros is a bit late on Steward's try 2seconds after he's released
no, but what Fickou did on the first Flament try is not that right too
I'm Welsh and it was very satisfying.
Cheers for watching! I’ll hopefully have my Wales vs Italy video done by Tuesday evening (NZ time) 🙏
😂This round was reserved for Wales winning the wooden spoon, while our problems are off field and temporary, England clubs going under and this performance, I think they should look in their own back yard, 😝
I really enjoyed the france-england game...
Cant wait for today's Ireland-scotland..gonna be epic
Scotland vs Ireland is going to go OFF 🔥🔥🔥
I think the next World Cup trophy will land in north hemisphere for the next 4 years, Rassie is not done whining about the refereing, Australia is… like England at the moment, and the AB’s are now loosing vs Ireland too. It will be either for Ireland or France, and it will bring freshness to planet rugby ❤
Totally agree with the Boks. Their focus on referees is distracting them from fixing inherent flaws in their game.
While certain other creators amass thousands of views for ref-blaming, the Boks’ refusal to welcome crowds back to stadiums with expansive attacking rugby is a far bigger problem for them. Points differential saw them fail to win The Rugby Championship; despite them having by far the best squad and coaches of the four teams.
Ireland and France are leading the way with welcoming fans back into the stadia through easily-marketable beautiful attacking structures, while the Southern Hemisphere are too busy using SANZAAR to undermine the authority of World Rugby.
@@TheBlackJersey exactly, as I’ve said in another of your vids the biggest threat for the SARU is actually… Rassie himself. I think South Africa wants to go the right way though with 3 of their provinces now in the last 16 of the euro Champions Cup, they want to understand what makes european refereeing and playing that special. Rassie should take notice… it’s that way in any other sports, I’ve been playing volley ball and table tennis for decades now, our youth have travelled to Japan to understand what makes Japan’s youth players development so effective, and now France is the 3rd best youth nation in the world behind China and Japan with 2 of our U19 boys kicking top 10 senior players, chinese included. We’ve learn that way in football, with guys moving to foreign top leagues in Spain or Italy in the 90’s, same in Hand ball, same in volley ball with most of our french squad moving in italian or russian leagues. And now France is the leading team sports nation in the world.
Also that’s why New Zealand has always been doing that good in many sports cos’ as insulars your government focuses on travelling and see the whole world for a better understanding of it. NZ players in the french TOP 14, the best league in Europe, have always been consistent, way more consistent than the SA ones for instance who have too many ups and downs (see… Cheslin Kolbe recently).
That is a very nice review.
Thanks a lot for watching 🙌
Je ne comprends ceux qui disent que les français ne respectent pas l'adversaire.
Bien sûr vous trouverez toujours des gens qui écrivent n'importe quoi sur les réseaux sociaux mais il y en a partout.
Mais il faut dire qu'entre la France et l'Angleterre c'est particulier.
Il y a une rivalité qui va au-delà du rugby.
Donc une telle victoire que ce soient les anglais ou les français est plus savoureuses qu'une telle victoire contre une autre équipe.
Si l'Angleterre avait battu la France au Stade de France on aurait eu les mêmes réactions.
I love your pride like you speak. As a French natio. 😎
Cheers man 🙏
winning against the black, big deal.
Winning against " la perfide albion " at twickenham with more than 30 point ? That's the real deal
I know it’s not obvious, because it’s usually the other way round in French, but the final “s” in “François Cros” is not silent
That surprises me a lot; most commentators pronounce his name with a silent “s”… maybe I’ll start watching games with French commentary 😂🙌
@@CarpeDiem13x how about Tomas Ramos ? It’s silent then pronounced right? There are some rules and then there some you need to know
@@CarpeDiem13x sorry I left out the the h from Thomas. A French name if I’m not mistaken that has a silent s.
I’m English and that British empire pun was good form. 😂 keep up the good work max 🏴
Glad to see people aren’t too mad about it aye, initial comments had me worried for a bit 😂😂😂😂
Cheers for watching the video bro, you’re always welcome back to the channel 😎
@@TheBlackJersey a lot of people won’t like what we have turned into but it’s globally not just us bro.
I’m about to subscribe. 😎 I want an apology when we win the World Cup though 😂🙏
If England wins that’ll go without saying 🙌
I do agree with you about Borthwick being very young and inexperienced in international terms. I wonder if the RFU will have the nous to encourage him to find a more mature mentor to work alongside him - someone with whom he gels and respects.
Unfortunately though English rugby’s problems are much greater than just the coaching set-up. The Premiership is not fit for purpose and currently isn’t providing the quality of players necessary to make the step up to international rugby. There are also massive financial issues plaguing the English game - two clubs, Worcester and Wasps, have already gone to the wall and rumours abound that they won’t be the only casualties!
This is the ideal time for the RFU to show some balls and proper leadership (& tough love!) to restructure the game and make it competitive again. Complacency and arrogance has been English rugby’s Achilles heel for a considerable period of time. Several decades ago, Will Carling described the RFU as being run by 57 old farts, more concerned about maintaining their match day jollies and the corporate elements. I wonder if anything has changed since those days …?
I don’t trust the RFU at all and that statement from Will Carling is totally true. The best people for the job always need to be the ones considered and that’s now how it is in England right now. I feel bad for Borthwick, who has been parachuted into the role too early, in the same way that John Mitchell and Mario Ledesma were.
@@TheBlackJersey Completely agree with you about the RFU and Will Carling was spot on in his judgement. Unfortunately nothing has changed since WC’s day … too many brown nosers, who only have their own interests in mind! The parlous financial state though might mean they are forced to change. You are right about Borthwick - it’s come much too early in his coaching career and his right hand man, Kevin Sinfield, is also a relatively inexperienced Defence Coach, fresh out of Rugby League and just over a year at Leicester Tigers! The RFU acted to sack Eddie Jones after hearing boos ringing around Twickenham. There were boos again after Saturday’s match! Surely they won’t press the trigger once again …?
Good analysis mate. I was at the game and I have to say France were incredible. I'm very excited to see how they got on in the RWC!
As an aside, that comment "as the British Empire continues to collapse so does their sporting teams" was pretty crass and immature.
Firstly, English sport, aside from rugby, is in pretty good shape. Men's football have reached a WC Semi and a Euros final in the last 5 years, Women's football won the Euros, Men's cricket are World Champs in both ODIs and T20s and are playing v well in Test cricket. Women's rugby reached the WC final and won a load of Grand Slams on the bounce. Meanwhile, we've had record Olympic medal hauls in London, Rio and Tokyo!!
Secondly, the British Empire ended in 1947 (or at the very latest 1997) depending on your historical perspective. So the comment about the Empire continuing to collapse was probably accurate 70 years ago, but not now.
I'd just be careful with comments like that in the future, they detract from the excellent work you're doing.
No harm in having a different sense of humour mate, cheers for viewing 🙌
Its just a little joke
@@TheBlackJersey Fair enough fella! The joke didn't make much sense to me, but all good. Have a good one mate 💪
Borthwick. " we will find out where we are against France and Ireland"
Now we know.
And it don't look good.
Light years behind France Ireland SA etc.
Oh joy we have Ireland away next week😅😅😅
England are at least doing much better than I thought they would do, which is good to see.
@@TheBlackJersey jeez mate, thanks for the encouragement, I'm gonna put a few quid on England by 5 in Dublin next week. NOT. 😅😅
@@Canvashed😂😂😂
I think the issue is deeper than the coach. It is reflective of RFUs systematic issues IE premiership losing two teams to financial issues. There under 20s were beat by 40. English have looked terrible since 2019 don't think it's the coach runs deeper
Yup, the anti-Eddie mob definitely worsened things though. The RFU parachuting Borthwick in so prematurely is probably the most obvious symptom of the massive problem; that is the RFU. The union has no idea how to think long-term.
@@TheBlackJersey i mean if you look at ireland for instance at first Ireland looked clunky but was because they were trying to unlearn old stuff from Joe which had put shackles on them and Andy had to to take at least 3 to 4 years to get Ireland running. Eddie may well of pulled them up bit more but i feel even with Eddie Jones England would still be poor cause of things that are wrong with rfu as a whole. Like Eddie was depending much like Wales on older aging players coming back that i feel are bit past it or are in the ending of careers. England after 2019 have not produced the talent for Eddie to use hense why results were poor he knew what was below the starting 15 wasn't that great. The spine of the English team is old much like Wales.
I'm impressed by the quick turnaround
Well, France didn´t want to be outshined by it's U20 team ^^
I heard that was a good match, I should start watching more of the overseas U20 teams 💯
@@TheBlackJersey well that was basically a preview for Twickenam, similar dominance from the French boys and the score at 42-7
I’m just here to give a thumb’s up for the Rode NT1-A… best mike ever I use the same one I bought in the 90’s, for the price it’s the best since 3 decades, and now thinking of buying the NTH100 headphones ❤
Rugby champagne!
Credit France they were outstanding England did not know what hit them. France on their day are outstanding they showed that yesterday
“…..as the British Empire continues to collapse, so do their sporting teams…..” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Brilliant!
Good to see it’s worked 😂🙌
Every great army has had its great defeat. A challenge for a rebirth...
Excellent content
Love the All Blacks ever since I saw them first in the 1987 World Cup. Thanks for your analysis.
Cheers for watching mate, I’ve got plenty of videos on the All Blacks on here for you 🙏
The handling errors from England were high school level.
Yeah. I’m surprised the refs arm didn’t cramp up the amount of penalties we gave away
First time I have seen you and really impressed. England are a way off but I do wonder whether they over trained and were a bit leggy. Saw a leg session clip by the RFU and they could hardly walk. Take that to France and they kill you. Without detracting or sugar coating the injury to Lawrence leaving Ludlam or Dombrandt against Penneau, the freak touchline try, are all things that turn a good beating into a rout. We are a long way off the top of World Rugby, but Borthwick and his new team need a cycle to build things.
I also think they're over trained.
Frankly speaking and after reviewing match I am not sure Englist team was so bad as described. French team was simply in a very good day. As usual intention was here and execution too. Against Ireland execution was low in spite of the hight intensity of intention. Let us wait for what England can do against Ireland. England can upset Irish team.
I think England were lost without leadership on the pitch and that some fundamental flaws in their game got exposed big time… France definitely deserved to win big!
Delighted for Genge
Yeah I’ve got nothing but respect for his body language in the interview. Have seen a few clips floating around and I admire that he remained composed on a pretty bittersweet day.
France dictate the timing and control the field from the first minute of the game.The first line are quick to go on the ball, clean around and give space and time for Dupont to do his magic .
You may not have seen Aus 76 Eng 0 then? I would disagree with you on Borthwick being the issue in Eddies coaching team. They both worked well together, and I think Eddie lost his way when Borthwick left. But the jury is out on Eng/Borthwick atm. Lets give him some time..Woodward took an aweful longtime to get a worldbeating team and Farrell got things wrong with Ireland in the last worldcup. The only team who manages to get consistency when they change coach is NZ as they plan well..and something Eddie Jones was supposed to do for Eng (i.e. have a coaching setup for future changes..this doesn't look to have been done).
Yeah I agree with you. England will bounce back up for sure. Borthwick just had a few months to coach this team. It's not that much.
But the 76-0 against Australia was with a third rate English team tho not the perfect line up like they tried to put against France yesterday. So It doesn't have the same impact.
Was that in a major tournament? No? Pretty irrelevant, then. A lot of the out of season games are basically trials.
Yeah, cause I wasn’t even alive when that game was played… I was born in 1999 💀
Interested to hear your thoughts on the England players individually.
I won’t have time to get them up before the tournament finishes but I’ll mention a bit about them in my post-6N autopsy and the pre-RWC Depth Chart video 🙌
The RFU and the premiership hold a lot of responsibility here for how bad england are. The media also play a part, making up an air of invincibility, Christ, they were saying that Steward was the best full back in the world a couple of weeks ago 🤷♂️. Competent and a fine physical specimen, yes he stands out against a mediocre premiership opposition but as soon as a he’s up against a cognitive team he’s average. Not necessarily his fault, the team around is either average, playing on past reputation or just downright not at the pictures!
“Give Borthwick and his players a chance”, “it’s a new coach and new team” it was said. I’m no fan of Eddie Jones, however sacking him was the worst decision the RFU have made and, it’s not as if they all just started playing rugby yesterday
The French team will dominate Rugby for a while because of this golden generation they have . Let’s stop this Peaking too soon business . Dupont will retire as the greatest player to ever play the game . WC incoming .
Have they peaked yet? Fairly young team, might get another WC out of them.
This golden generation are at the height of their powers for now, but they’ll need to keep innovating.
@@TheBlackJersey Either we have seen nothing yet or they will implode. Contrary to most, I can't get but be worried about the true level of how they play - we have had a taste of it with the first games of the VI Nations Tournament, not quite convincing...
C'est vrai que la France a fait très fort sur ce match
Le fair play vous revient
Cheers for the support John 🙌
R.I.P. England..... Anyways so you guys think France vs New Zealand final? With Le Blues taking it in extra time by 1?
Ireland vs France final for sure. Ireland deserve their current world ranking.
You seem to ignore South Africa. Do so at your peril.
It was real exhibition stuff from France. England are definitely out of sorts at the moment.
No question!
England need a better rugby union committee that actually understands the game and players that know how to play rugby and don’t buy into the media narrative of picking who should or shouldn’t coach or play for your smoked England rugby team
Yup, the RFU are paying big time for listening to the keyboard warriors. I’m not sure wether to be thinking “I told you so” about Borthwick or to feel bad for him at this point aye 😅
England shouldnt be too down about this, they have defeated the countries ranked 10th and 13th this year. Not bad for a minor nation.
I don’t think that we can call any team ranked higher than 16th place a minor nation. I wouldn’t be surprised to see plenty more RWC upsets after 2019 😏
France were phenomenal whereas England's execution was well below what was needed to perform their gameplan. France dominated at the brekad defensively. Danty, Alldritt, Cros and Ollivon were all excellent at getting turnovers and stopping England getting quick ball.
Yup, Danty is massive for France. He’s the most-improved player of the Galthié era by far, he was essentially a poor man’s Bastareaud four years ago.
@@TheBlackJersey Bastareaud, Chabal, were impact players, but not good rugby players...
Galthier is looking for clever players...
Really think the English (for years) have a bad sense of their domestic league and the quality of it world wide. I watch the premiership most weeks, and while there’s some nice tries and throwing the ball around, the teams are not to a high European quality, yes the salary cap has reduced their ability, but they are well off the standard of the top European teams. Says the same about their players too. Even teams like Edinburgh, Connacht, Bulls, Bordeaux (mid table teams in their leagues) would finish top 4 in the prem
Yup, the Premiership is looking pretty slow these days…
Bottom line France light-years ahead of england.
No question. Borthwick is the English version of John Mitchell.
we are a young team & unlike past teams lack international experience & to be fair we also lack a bit of street wise awareness, however that doesn't excuse trys given away due to penalties & just general lack of attention to were the damn ball is.
we have been near or at the top of the game for a long time & now it's time for someone else that's just how it is, 2- 3 years from now England will be a different team & look back on these past years as just a bad patch, it's not like southern hemispheres are playing to their best atm either, the whole game is evolving atm
The powers that be should never have terminated Jones before the World cup.
Nothing but the truth. They’re paying a massive price for caving to the miserable keyboard warriors who are too fuelled by instant-gratification to understand the concept of momentum.
England have a long way back to return to the top table in world rugby. Borthwick should now concentrate on the 3 R's - Beef, Brains and Backs. Beef up the physicality, use the brain to be more aware of strategy and tactics on the field, and train the backs to be more creative, fluid and accurate.
This France has no rivals in the world, any coach from other national teams can do nothing to beat them.
I'm Irish and laughing 🤣🤣🤣
Hmmm Ireland already beat France in this completion.
@@tommartin7333 I guess he meant "THIS" France, like the one playing in THIS match at THIS level.
@@noamfinnegan8663 Against England, it was a conquering French side and more in form. This win at Twickenham was the main objective of French staff during this tournament. Greg Aldritt refreshed, François Cros and Jonathan Danty back on the field. Danty is more important than Dupont ! We have several great scrum-halves behind Dupont. Le Garrec and Couilloud are my favourites. Danty is irreplaceable as a number 12 in this team.
@@FromAgen agreement with you is deserved 💚 Best display I've ever seen at Twickenham and one of the best performances in rugby ever.
Let's not pass hasty judgement on England. As a team, they looked rather dislocated from their game plan.The French imposed their will on England with impunity. Additionally, Les Blues exuded high morale unlike their English counterparts who appeared lackluster.
I don't think theirs is a coaching problem, but probably the trickle down effect of a misfiring RFU.
However, there's still time before the RWC for the RFU to put it's house in order and give fans their money's worth; as well as avoid embarrassment.
Hard times for England, three months after the WC 2022 elimnation also by France...