Glad to hear this because I ordered one as well...read a lot of negative comments, but then again those are ''pro'' car knowers... went to Renault, had a chat with sales and mechanics, test drive and at the end ordered it....looking forward to it
@@2811Wolf You'll absolutely love it! You are right about the "pro" knowers, they have the luxury of being finicky, whereas he most of us who might acquire a car like the Rafale is another level for one of us.
French car makers have dramatically improved the quality, design and interiors. Peugeot now is a mid premium. Renault makes wonderful cars. German cars now are overly expensive compared to what Renault and Pug offer. French brands cost much less, and deliver as much in terms of design, tech and everything. Why pay 30k more just to get the Audi or BMW badge?
When comparing French and German car brands in similar ranges, there are generally price differences. German cars are often more expensive than their French counterparts due to factors like reputation, build quality, performance, and customization options. Here’s a breakdown of prices by segment: 1. City Cars (Renault Clio vs. Volkswagen Polo) Renault Clio: Starting at €18,000. Volkswagen Polo: Starting at €22,000. The Polo is usually more expensive because of its perceived better quality finish and integrated technologies, though the size and engines are fairly similar. 2. Compact Cars (Peugeot 308 vs. Volkswagen Golf) Peugeot 308: Starting at €27,000. Volkswagen Golf: Starting at €30,000. The Golf has a more premium image in this category, which reflects in its price. It often offers more refined finishes, powerful engines, and advanced technologies. 3. Compact SUVs (Citroën C5 Aircross vs. Audi Q3) Citroën C5 Aircross: Starting at €30,000. Audi Q3: Starting at €40,000. German SUVs like the Audi Q3 have a more luxurious image and better performance, which explains the price difference compared to a French model like the Citroën C5 Aircross. 4. Sedans (Renault Talisman vs. BMW 3 Series) Renault Talisman: Starting at €35,000. BMW 3 Series: Starting at €45,000. The BMW 3 Series is much more expensive than the Renault Talisman, especially due to better performance, more premium design, and onboard technologies. 5. Electric Cars (Peugeot e-208 vs. Volkswagen ID.3) Peugeot e-208: Starting at €33,000. Volkswagen ID.3: Starting at €39,000. The difference in electric vehicles often comes down to battery technology and autonomous driving options, which are more advanced in German models. Reasons for the Price Difference: Perception of Quality and Brand Image: German cars, like Audi, BMW, and Mercedes, are often seen as more premium due to their reputation for performance and reliability. Technology and Finish: German brands typically integrate cutting-edge technology, higher-end finishes, and more powerful engines, justifying a higher price. Customization: German cars usually offer more customization options (engines, finishes, technologies), increasing the overall cost. In summary, for comparable car ranges, German cars are often 10% to 20% more expensive than their French equivalents due to perceived quality and the options offered.
@@stephen10. French cars now are as reliable as German cars, despite what most people want to believe. It's just PERCEIVED quality... Actually, German cars have as many technical issues as the French or the Japanese. I owned a BMW, it had so many issues, it costed me more than 10k to fix. And compare the most equiped German cars to their French counterparts, you'll see a huge difference in prices. "German cars usually offer more powerful engines" : I agree with that. "Integrate cutting edge tech" : I disagree with that. Renault absolutely wipes the floor with what VW offers, for example. Renaults are full of tech, same applies to Peug. "Customization ": "German cars offer more customization options"....Well I find this statement controversial, and even if so, it comes with a HUGE HUGE DIFFERENCE IN PRICE. Or let's reverse the argument : if you choose the most basic equiped French car vs a German equivalent, you'll find that the French one naturally offers more, much more than the German. It's just a fact. German cars now are unbelievably costs, and nothing, absolutely nothing justifies it anymore. People just pay for the badge, nothing more. French cars are gradually becoming accessible luxury, while German cars are costly, expensive luxury.
@@stephen10. The Talisman no longer is produced... thanks. "The difference in electric vehicles often comes down to battery technology and autonomous driving options, which are more advanced in German models." = I call BS on that statement, absolute BS. Renault's new cars battery tech and autonomous driving options are more advanced.
I have an Austral and I love it. The Rafale has the same engine as mine so that is a plus for me. The other plus for me is the exclusive Summit Blue colour which is stunning.
I found that on my Renault the fuel economy has improved drastically after about 1500-2000 miles. Going from 48.8mpg to 57.5mpg. I haven’t changed my driving style at all so it may also improve on the Rafale
Good comparison video, they are not 100% close but close enough, I think at the end of the day as they are so similar it’s down to what the buyer prefers like Apple or Android for example, whilst the Renault has some nice touches I think I prefer the 3008 but would have to get it in GT trim
Very interesting I like Renault better, but the Peugeot is slightly cheaper, I think I would have to have a test drive myself before I made up my mind, I think you are amazing at doing these car reviews as I can understand you better than others, also I am interested in the Smart # 1 and #3 would love it if you could review these please Tish 😊
A good review as always - a very fair comparison. I much prefer the Renault Rafale to the Peugeot 3008. Even if the comparison was between the Rafale and 408, I'd still would go for the Renault - the 408, to me is awkward looking.
Renault Rafalle all the way. I went in dealership and sat in one, the interior quality and ergonomics as well as design both inside and outside are supreme. My next family car (will order one next year) 😊
I don't know why the French have such a problem with moving the fusebox on RHD cars. I used to have a 2009 Pug 308, the owner's manual didn't even fit in the glovebox.
3008 all day every day. Looks better and definitely is more stylish snd unique. New Peugeots looks fantastic. And same for interrior quality. Really really good
I prefer the Peugeot Tish, the reason I had to drive to Paris from Cheshire in my wife’s 2008 as my BMW was being used for grand kids pickups by my wife, the car was pleasant to drive it’s not a racing car but very comfortable the auto box I cannot fault smooth on normal mode I found in sport mode it was a bit jerky. I enjoyed driving it after initially sulking when I realised I had to take it. Over the Renault I find the interior looks better in Peugeot I personally find the exterior on the Peugeot looks better too. It’s all personal opinions but I can actually recommend the 2008 great car to drive plenty of room , no issues driving back and too to Paris . Great review mate keep them coming 😊
Peugeot 3008 Hybrid all the way for me! Such a comfy spacious car, the heated steering and seats are superb when like me I suffer with survear osteoarthritis through out my body! Plenty of head room, since I use to bang my head on a Nissan Quasgie! Ample room for my wheelchair.
I really like the look of both cars, they are both well made, the Renault has more appealing performance and electric versatility, but due to dodgy knees the Pug will win it for me. Oh....and the tail lights are prettier! 😂 I think they both cost too much, I don't necessarily need ALL of the extra tech, and quality should also reflect longevity at these prices, so maybe both manufacturers should be offering longer and more comprehensive warranties, and full service and maintenance support far beyond the typical 6 to 7 years Renault and Stellantis tend to offer. BTW once you get used to a column shift, it's much more convenient and nicer to use than a console shift.
It's spooky how similar they look which given that the same designer drew them is no surprise but speaking as a former Renault owner I'd have it over the Peugeot.
Bought Peugeot yesterday, and rafale does not even come close to price for what it gives. In hungary cheapest rafale was around 40k euro, meanwhile got my 3008 for 29k euros, which is nobrainer. Car looks much better, meanwhile the infotainment might look bigger and everything, but peugeot is more stylish and everything. :)
Need a proper hybrid. The car makers and governments are failing the public. Currently trying to get funding to build off the work of Ferdinand Porsches research into hybrid technology. We should have hybrids giving us 150mpg without ever the need to recharge. Just fill up like a normal ICE. Instead we are given the Renault Rafale is 60mpg and Peugeot 3008 40mpg. Both ok, but nowhere near what we should be getting or the planet needs. Both of these cars look fine and I am sure drive fine, just wish we got proper efficiency.
No rear wiper 😮 I’m nearly at the end of my 2nd 3008. Love both of them. The 1st a white Allure, the present a sexy 22 reg black auto. I’m looking at the new 3008 and just think a lot of stuff is disappointing on the present model. Like the internal changes but au horror external. The overall shape, the lights, the grill, especially the bum. Definitely a downgrade imo. Hence, looking at other makes. Sorry Peugeot 😢
I do not understand why is she comparing the lowest trim (the peugeot) with the highest spec (renault). 90% of her complaints are covered with the GT version. Guess she does not do any research about the cars and this is not the first time. Hope people do not make decisions based on her "reviews".
My thoughts exactly. I don't think she likes the new 3008 and she's slightly biased towards it that was evident in the review she did for it before the comparison. I have the new 3008 and it's a hell of a car. Despite not having the punchier engine available (the engine choices are the only disadvantage I found in this car) for the hybrid version it had still more than enough power available. The plug in hybrid GT would be perfect (though considerably higher in price for its category).
As a Northener, I'm somewhat bemused at your use of double negatives - as in dirt off of the road, and how quick the car was at getting off of the line.... We would simply say dirt off the road, and quick off the line.... Good review though...
@@Brian-om2hh it’s probably not much to do with me being southern, I’m dyslexic so my brain tends to add in words. It’s also so not scripted so that could be the case ☺️ glad you enjoyed it, apart from the double negatives 😂
These are not double negatives. But Tish does have a few little grammatical quirks associated with Essex dialect., e.g. ‘inside of’ rather than just ‘inside’. All good. Thanks for the videos, Tish. At those prices, I’d go full EV with a Scenic or e3008.
Wait.... Are these even in the same market segment? Isn't the Peugeot 3008 a C segment car and the Rafale a D segment car? What's the point? Would you compare a Corsa to a Golf?
You only had to watch to about 2 minutes until I address that. They’re just a bit of fun, I’m testing out value for money and how well each brand has used the space ☺️
Not even a contest the Rafale is by far the better car Have driven the new 3008 and it's such a backwards step over the old model Space wise in the back the 3008 was a struggle to fit my son's car seat in Shame the Rafale isn't available as an EV
@@garnray8568 I drove the e-3008 and unfortunately in a short time I found a lot of faults with the car Front Seats not very wide, no felt in the doors (Last model had it) very tight in the back with a 6ft driver It left me very underwhelmed and happy to get back into my Skoda Enyaq
I got the Rafale yesterday and I love it. Hands down the best car I have ever owned!
Glad to hear this because I ordered one as well...read a lot of negative comments, but then again those are ''pro'' car knowers... went to Renault, had a chat with sales and mechanics, test drive and at the end ordered it....looking forward to it
@@2811Wolf You'll absolutely love it! You are right about the "pro" knowers, they have the luxury of being finicky, whereas he most of us who might acquire a car like the Rafale is another level for one of us.
I'm waiting for my order too. Can't wait. Had the clio for 2 years, pretty happy with it.
French car makers have dramatically improved the quality, design and interiors. Peugeot now is a mid premium. Renault makes wonderful cars. German cars now are overly expensive compared to what Renault and Pug offer. French brands cost much less, and deliver as much in terms of design, tech and everything. Why pay 30k more just to get the Audi or BMW badge?
30k more really is a gross exaggeration with these two costing around £40k. Peugeot arent any cheaper than VWs and arent comparable to Audis and BMWs.
The difference of price for french brands and german brands is between 10 % for small car and 20 % or 30 % for premium ! It 's a lot of money
When comparing French and German car brands in similar ranges, there are generally price differences. German cars are often more expensive than their French counterparts due to factors like reputation, build quality, performance, and customization options. Here’s a breakdown of prices by segment:
1. City Cars (Renault Clio vs. Volkswagen Polo)
Renault Clio: Starting at €18,000.
Volkswagen Polo: Starting at €22,000.
The Polo is usually more expensive because of its perceived better quality finish and integrated technologies, though the size and engines are fairly similar.
2. Compact Cars (Peugeot 308 vs. Volkswagen Golf)
Peugeot 308: Starting at €27,000.
Volkswagen Golf: Starting at €30,000.
The Golf has a more premium image in this category, which reflects in its price. It often offers more refined finishes, powerful engines, and advanced technologies.
3. Compact SUVs (Citroën C5 Aircross vs. Audi Q3)
Citroën C5 Aircross: Starting at €30,000.
Audi Q3: Starting at €40,000.
German SUVs like the Audi Q3 have a more luxurious image and better performance, which explains the price difference compared to a French model like the Citroën C5 Aircross.
4. Sedans (Renault Talisman vs. BMW 3 Series)
Renault Talisman: Starting at €35,000.
BMW 3 Series: Starting at €45,000.
The BMW 3 Series is much more expensive than the Renault Talisman, especially due to better performance, more premium design, and onboard technologies.
5. Electric Cars (Peugeot e-208 vs. Volkswagen ID.3)
Peugeot e-208: Starting at €33,000.
Volkswagen ID.3: Starting at €39,000.
The difference in electric vehicles often comes down to battery technology and autonomous driving options, which are more advanced in German models.
Reasons for the Price Difference:
Perception of Quality and Brand Image: German cars, like Audi, BMW, and Mercedes, are often seen as more premium due to their reputation for performance and reliability.
Technology and Finish: German brands typically integrate cutting-edge technology, higher-end finishes, and more powerful engines, justifying a higher price.
Customization: German cars usually offer more customization options (engines, finishes, technologies), increasing the overall cost.
In summary, for comparable car ranges, German cars are often 10% to 20% more expensive than their French equivalents due to perceived quality and the options offered.
@@stephen10. French cars now are as reliable as German cars, despite what most people want to believe.
It's just PERCEIVED quality... Actually, German cars have as many technical issues as the French or the Japanese. I owned a BMW, it had so many issues, it costed me more than 10k to fix.
And compare the most equiped German cars to their French counterparts, you'll see a huge difference in prices.
"German cars usually offer more powerful engines" : I agree with that.
"Integrate cutting edge tech" : I disagree with that. Renault absolutely wipes the floor with what VW offers, for example. Renaults are full of tech, same applies to Peug.
"Customization ": "German cars offer more customization options"....Well I find this statement controversial, and even if so, it comes with a HUGE HUGE DIFFERENCE IN PRICE.
Or let's reverse the argument : if you choose the most basic equiped French car vs a German equivalent, you'll find that the French one naturally offers more, much more than the German. It's just a fact.
German cars now are unbelievably costs, and nothing, absolutely nothing justifies it anymore.
People just pay for the badge, nothing more.
French cars are gradually becoming accessible luxury, while German cars are costly, expensive luxury.
@@stephen10. The Talisman no longer is produced... thanks.
"The difference in electric vehicles often comes down to battery technology and autonomous driving options, which are more advanced in German models." = I call BS on that statement, absolute BS.
Renault's new cars battery tech and autonomous driving options are more advanced.
I will go for the Rafale for the engine, accessibility and style ! Thanks for your video
I have an Austral and I love it. The Rafale has the same engine as mine so that is a plus for me. The other plus for me is the exclusive Summit Blue colour which is stunning.
You should have picked the 408 instead of the 3008! You would have seen more similarities in length and style!
Thanks for this!👍 Renault all day long for me..the interior infotainmentsystem is soo much better.🙏
Agree on infotainment. Renault is much more better.
I like the Renault Rafale. It just looks more sporty IMO.
I found that on my Renault the fuel economy has improved drastically after about 1500-2000 miles. Going from 48.8mpg to 57.5mpg. I haven’t changed my driving style at all so it may also improve on the Rafale
Good comparison video, they are not 100% close but close enough, I think at the end of the day as they are so similar it’s down to what the buyer prefers like Apple or Android for example, whilst the Renault has some nice touches I think I prefer the 3008 but would have to get it in GT trim
408 will be much a better car to compare and this 3008 is not a GT with back handrest and others but the 3008 is still a wonderful car ❤❤
I have the 3008 gt version and it has so many features this one doesn’t , this is the base model she’s reviewing .. so not a fair comparison.
I know you've mentioned the size discrepancy, etc, but you could have put the 408 up against the Rafale and you wouldn't have had that problem.
Very interesting I like Renault better, but the Peugeot is slightly cheaper, I think I would have to have a test drive myself before I made up my mind, I think you are amazing at doing these car reviews as I can understand you better than others, also I am interested in the Smart # 1 and #3 would love it if you could review these please Tish 😊
A good review as always - a very fair comparison. I much prefer the Renault Rafale to the Peugeot 3008. Even if the comparison was between the Rafale and 408, I'd still would go for the Renault - the 408, to me is awkward looking.
Nice review tish
If I had to pick out of the 2 vehicles it would be the Renault for me x
Renault uses Google in their multimedia which is a big plus
Excellent comparative video with very charming presenter!
Thank you very much for watching
Peugeot 3008 for me! More alluring and futuristic
Renault Rafalle all the way. I went in dealership and sat in one, the interior quality and ergonomics as well as design both inside and outside are supreme.
My next family car (will order one next year) 😊
Totally the best presenter ever!
The Rafale for me Tish. Its Gorgeous and on my to have list in the future.
I don't know why the French have such a problem with moving the fusebox on RHD cars. I used to have a 2009 Pug 308, the owner's manual didn't even fit in the glovebox.
3008 all day every day. Looks better and definitely is more stylish snd unique. New Peugeots looks fantastic. And same for interrior quality. Really really good
I prefer the Peugeot Tish, the reason I had to drive to Paris from Cheshire in my wife’s 2008 as my BMW was being used for grand kids pickups by my wife, the car was pleasant to drive it’s not a racing car but very comfortable the auto box I cannot fault smooth on normal mode I found in sport mode it was a bit jerky. I enjoyed driving it after initially sulking when I realised I had to take it. Over the Renault I find the interior looks better in Peugeot I personally find the exterior on the Peugeot looks better too. It’s all personal opinions but I can actually recommend the 2008 great car to drive plenty of room , no issues driving back and too to Paris . Great review mate keep them coming 😊
Renault have nailed it with the interior.
Renault has currently a good ratio price/quality.
Peugeot 3008 Hybrid all the way for me! Such a comfy spacious car, the heated steering and seats are superb when like me I suffer with survear osteoarthritis through out my body! Plenty of head room, since I use to bang my head on a Nissan Quasgie! Ample room for my wheelchair.
😊 you love your rural settings
A good comparison video to do Tish would the Peugeot 3008 electric V The Renault Scenic.
I prefer the interior and exterior look of the rafale
I really like the look of both cars, they are both well made, the Renault has more appealing performance and electric versatility, but due to dodgy knees the Pug will win it for me. Oh....and the tail lights are prettier! 😂
I think they both cost too much, I don't necessarily need ALL of the extra tech, and quality should also reflect longevity at these prices, so maybe both manufacturers should be offering longer and more comprehensive warranties, and full service and maintenance support far beyond the typical 6 to 7 years Renault and Stellantis tend to offer.
BTW once you get used to a column shift, it's much more convenient and nicer to use than a console shift.
The Renault for me 👍
It's spooky how similar they look which given that the same designer drew them is no surprise but speaking as a former Renault owner I'd have it over the Peugeot.
Bought Peugeot yesterday, and rafale does not even come close to price for what it gives. In hungary cheapest rafale was around 40k euro, meanwhile got my 3008 for 29k euros, which is nobrainer. Car looks much better, meanwhile the infotainment might look bigger and everything, but peugeot is more stylish and everything. :)
130 mild vs 200 full hibrid... Direcție viratoare pe puntea spate... Eu cred că este o diferență mare
Both have their pros and cons Tish. I think i'd go Renault by a short head.
Need a proper hybrid. The car makers and governments are failing the public.
Currently trying to get funding to build off the work of Ferdinand Porsches research into hybrid technology. We should have hybrids giving us 150mpg without ever the need to recharge. Just fill up like a normal ICE. Instead we are given the Renault Rafale is 60mpg and Peugeot 3008 40mpg. Both ok, but nowhere near what we should be getting or the planet needs.
Both of these cars look fine and I am sure drive fine, just wish we got proper efficiency.
Rafale exterior , 3008 interior
They look good and more premium than ever but the engines are definitely not premium 1.2 litre engine for such a big car is a shame.
No rear wiper 😮 I’m nearly at the end of my 2nd 3008. Love both of them. The 1st a white Allure, the present a sexy 22 reg black auto. I’m looking at the new 3008 and just think a lot of stuff is disappointing on the present model. Like the internal changes but au horror external. The overall shape, the lights, the grill, especially the bum. Definitely a downgrade imo. Hence, looking at other makes. Sorry Peugeot 😢
Hi, Tish 💙
Both look "smart" & "futuristic". 👍The small engines are 👎
I do not understand why is she comparing the lowest trim (the peugeot) with the highest spec (renault). 90% of her complaints are covered with the GT version. Guess she does not do any research about the cars and this is not the first time. Hope people do not make decisions based on her "reviews".
My thoughts exactly. I don't think she likes the new 3008 and she's slightly biased towards it that was evident in the review she did for it before the comparison. I have the new 3008 and it's a hell of a car. Despite not having the punchier engine available (the engine choices are the only disadvantage I found in this car) for the hybrid version it had still more than enough power available. The plug in hybrid GT would be perfect (though considerably higher in price for its category).
Rafale is the better car. It feels more adult and plush.
As a Northener, I'm somewhat bemused at your use of double negatives - as in dirt off of the road, and how quick the car was at getting off of the line.... We would simply say dirt off the road, and quick off the line.... Good review though...
@@Brian-om2hh it’s probably not much to do with me being southern, I’m dyslexic so my brain tends to add in words. It’s also so not scripted so that could be the case ☺️ glad you enjoyed it, apart from the double negatives 😂
These are not double negatives. But Tish does have a few little grammatical quirks associated with Essex dialect., e.g. ‘inside of’ rather than just ‘inside’. All good. Thanks for the videos, Tish. At those prices, I’d go full EV with a Scenic or e3008.
Died 00s born 20s
Welcome back badge snob cars
So Renault and Peugeot are badge snob cars?!?
Which will depreciate fastest....probably renault...
Yet again get in the 3008? Model you get the centre console arm rest do your reviews better please
The new Renault design language is awful it’s so bland
And 3008 having grey cloth will stain and mark easily
❤🎉❤🎉❤❤❤❤
Kodiaq makes more sense than Rafale?!?@ 😊
I think Peugeot's look great these days.
rafale 4x4
Wait.... Are these even in the same market segment? Isn't the Peugeot 3008 a C segment car and the Rafale a D segment car?
What's the point?
Would you compare a Corsa to a Golf?
You only had to watch to about 2 minutes until I address that. They’re just a bit of fun, I’m testing out value for money and how well each brand has used the space ☺️
@@AutoSocialUK that's the thing, I did.
It's RafalE not Rafal. Like PorschE and not Porsch. But good comparison
Wrong. In French, it's pronounced "Rafal". The "e" is silent.
Not even a contest the Rafale is by far the better car
Have driven the new 3008 and it's such a backwards step over the old model
Space wise in the back the 3008 was a struggle to fit my son's car seat in
Shame the Rafale isn't available as an EV
the rafale is better okay but the Pug is NOT a backwards step over the old model, it's still a great vehicle, superb and modern.
@@garnray8568 I drove the e-3008 and unfortunately in a short time I found a lot of faults with the car
Front Seats not very wide, no felt in the doors (Last model had it) very tight in the back with a 6ft driver
It left me very underwhelmed and happy to get back into my Skoda Enyaq
@@garnray8568it would be more useful if you justified your claims, instead of just saying it is not a step backwards.
@@ThePetrolhead94the E5008 will better compete with the Enyaq in terms of space and shape!
Yeah I really wonder why they didn't make a powerful EV version of the Rafale! I would have chosen this over a Model Y in a heartbeat...
The Rafale Is the better Car 😊
The Renaults rear looks good. The Peugrots looks boring and too plain.
Really?! They look so similar 😂
Rear design of 3008 looks very strange and ugle..previous one was much better than this..
Being a bit ungentlemanly, but has Tish got camel toe in the conclusion part?
It’s the way the jeans are darker but thanks for pointing it out 👍🏼
Sorry those are not SUVs they don't have four wheel drive low gear so all they are is over sized car replacements for the 80s and 90s mini vans !
With less interior space than the vans!
Dump EV bring back diesel and im consider a nee Renault they do like much better
Compari mere cu pere.
Yawn. What a boring reviewer.
@@bikeman123 plenty more for you to watch on UA-cam 👍🏼 Pleased the algorithm is pushing the video out to non-subscribers mind you
@@AutoSocialUK dont mind this troll love you doing well