Best French car? How good is the all-new Renault Rafale? Driving REVIEW
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
- This is our in-depth review of the Renault Rafale. We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and the driving experience.
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00:00 Best French car?
00:43 Length and wheels
01:10 Rear-axle steering
01:50 Suspension
02:33 Interior quality
03:24 Seats and comfort
04:06 Electrochrome roof
04:38 Cockpit and interface
07:23 Rear seats
09:26 Boot / trunk
10:01 Engines
10:49 Hybrid driving
12:51 Assistance systems
13:55 Suspension and steering
16:55 City driving
20:12 Driving modes
21:18 Acceleration test
21:42 Consumption economy
22:02 Price
#Renault #RenaultRafale
Data & Facts:
Renault Rafale
Named after a Renault plane in the 1930s
Produced in Spain
Sister models Austral (shorter) and Espace (same wheelbase but Rafale has wider track)
Peak Blue / Gipfel-Blau
Dolomite Grey
Optional Matrix LED
4,71 m 185“ length
20“-21“
Rear-axle-steering (threshold 50 km/h and up to 5 degrees) optional for HEV, standard for PHEV (comes in Esprit Alpine)
1,2 l R3 turbo Hybrid 200 hp FWD 8,9 s (2 electric motors, one main one ISG)
Top speed 180 km/h 112 mph
2 kWh battery 400 V
1,2 l R3 turbo PHEV 300 hp AWD 6,4 s (2 electric motors for front, one e motor at the rear axle for AWD)
22 kWh battery
7,4 kW AC charging
ISG starts the engine and controls the gear changes
PHEV EV driving up to 135 km/h
front-wheel drive is preferred up to 70 km/h, rear-wheel drive for higher speeds
PHEV as Esprit Alpine (also available for Hybrid) or exclusive as Atelier Alpine trim with sporty active suspension with predictive camera and anti-rolls bars
Interior with cork (Techno trim, dashboard) and slate (Esprit Alpine trim, hand rest)
Fabric seats in Techno
Esprit Alpine Alcantara seats (side bolster should remind you of motorcycle clothing protectors)
And steering wheel with Alcantara
All seats animal free as well as steering wheel (50 % recycling), back of the seat 100 % recycling
Electrochrome roof also with voice control
Top trim HEV: Esprit Alpine, Top trim PHEV: Atelier Alpine
12,3“ instruments, 12“ infotainment Android automotive, optional HUD
630 l trunk - 1.915
Price 44.000 Euro Hybrid, 48.000 Esprit Alpine. 1.500 Panoramic roof, 1.500 Matrix LED
Max towing HEV 1,5 t
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00:00 Best French car?
00:43 Length and wheels
01:10 Rear-axle steering
01:50 Suspension
02:33 Interior quality
03:24 Seats and comfort
04:06 Electrochrome roof
04:38 Cockpit and interface
07:23 Rear seats
09:26 Boot / trunk
10:01 Engines
10:49 Hybrid driving
12:51 Assistance systems
13:55 Suspension and steering
16:55 City driving
20:12 Driving modes
21:18 Acceleration test
21:42 Consumption economy
22:02 Price
#Renault #RenaultRafale
This is the most Peugeot/Opel looking Renault ever.
Literally. Take the badge off and I couldn’t ever tell it’s a renault.
yes because designer from peugeot go to renault.
@@timotejzentko759 this form of incestuous relationship should never be allowed.
Indeed. Soooo generic 😢
Yes, I thought it was a new Peugeot from the thumbnail!
This and the new Scenic you can really tell that the Peugeot designer went to work for Renault, and clearly didnt wanna come up with new ideas.
Why changing a good recipe. I don't think the designer misses ideas but I would think thay Renault wants to sell cars and Peugeot sold a lot of their 3008. I would not be estonished if that Renault request a 3008 like model from the designer.
Data & Facts:
Renault Rafale
Named after a Renault plane in the 1930s
Produced in Spain
Sister models Austral (shorter) and Espace (same wheelbase but Rafale has wider track)
Peak Blue / Gipfel-Blau
Dolomite Grey
Optional Matrix LED
4,71 m 185“ length
20“-21“
Rear-axle-steering (threshold 50 km/h and up to 5 degrees) optional for HEV, standard for PHEV (comes in Esprit Alpine)
1,2 l R3 turbo Hybrid 200 hp FWD 8,9 s (2 electric motors, one main one ISG)
Top speed 180 km/h 112 mph
2 kWh battery 400 V
1,2 l R3 turbo PHEV 300 hp AWD 6,4 s (2 electric motors for front, one e motor at the rear axle for AWD)
22 kWh battery
7,4 kW AC charging
ISG starts the engine and controls the gear changes
PHEV EV driving up to 135 km/h
front-wheel drive is preferred up to 70 km/h, rear-wheel drive for higher speeds
PHEV as Esprit Alpine (also available for Hybrid) or exclusive as Atelier Alpine trim with sporty active suspension with predictive camera and anti-rolls bars
Interior with cork (Techno trim, dashboard) and slate (Esprit Alpine trim, hand rest)
Fabric seats in Techno
Esprit Alpine Alcantara seats (side bolster should remind you of motorcycle clothing protectors)
And steering wheel with Alcantara
All seats animal free as well as steering wheel (50 % recycling), back of the seat 100 % recycling
Electrochrome roof also with voice control
Top trim HEV: Esprit Alpine, Top trim PHEV: Atelier Alpine
12,3“ instruments, 12“ infotainment Android automotive, optional HUD
630 l trunk - 1.915
Price 44.000 Euro Hybrid, 48.000 Esprit Alpine. 1.500 Panoramic roof, 1.500 Matrix LED
Max towing HEV 1,5 t
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Renault is a bye bye brand. No more renault. Knly making pocket money from selling cars to nissan and others and engines to mercedes ....copying peugeot copying everyone else. No more renault. Gone is the espace luxury time and the safrane time..even the renault 21 and laguna are gone, made the fluence and stopped. It s ugly and it s just lookingnfor trends to make moneh no identity
Hi Thomas, that "hand rest" is actually a tribute to aviation :)
And also from the old Espace gear selector :) If I remember correctly.
doesn't matter, it's stupid, does nothing but going in the way all the time, I know, I've got the car Austral with the same shit for a couple of days. Flawed design. Look at new Hyundai Tucson hybring main cluster and take notes.
Bcz of all the aviation jet engines renault made??
@@rumorscameras ??
Actually I recall people like that design from the old Megane eBrake.
Without even watching let me guess it has a mighty 1.2l engine😂
Hi, Thomas I have to admit these people from France did a good job Renault Rafale!
Was waiting for a full review of the new Renault Rafale. Thank you Thomas for being ahead of the rest
This review was absolutely fascinating, thank you.
For around €50-60k you were getting all wheel steering and some form of adaptive suspension. Both features have hitherto been the sole preserve of the premium brands. So premium brands watch out. The second feature which caught my eye was the adjustable chromatic shading of the glass roof, which other cars have. Finally I think this car was quite a good demonstration of why mild hybrids still have a real use for efficiency.
The rest of the features for the money look good and suitably Gallic, though that is not a selling point for me.
There is nothing premium about this car!
@@ALFOONUS
Thank you. I think that was exactly the point I was making. 4W steering and adaptive suspension have come to ordinary cars, so what distinguishes a premium car now?
Not normally a fan of French cars but this is really good looking, especially from the rear.
Stunning car. Renault make the best cars in the World. No one does it better.
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"Hold my wine" deserves a shout-out! 😆🤣🤣 hilarious Thomas
Great video both of you. Is that middle part meant to represent the throttle of a plane ✈️ where you were resting your hand for the screen
Sounds right!
Nice review and nice "french accent" for "esprit Alpine" 😁👌
I think Renault is on the good path...
The designs are really nice (thx Mr Vidal, ex Peugeot Designer)
=)
Oh, thats why new renaults have that peugeot-ish vibe.
@@Raatokalle Yep 😄
The Rafale and the Scenic E-tech are 2 projects designed by Mr Vidal
Looks quite cool
Nice mounting sistem for the dji osmo pocket 3, do you have a link for the mount sistem that you used :D ?
The black keycard is always the backup one. They didn't give you the main one which is much nicer, with aluminum trim.
What a beauty, those brave lines, eye catching color and incredibly comfy suspension, pure perfection - Citroen C4 @ 10:55
@autogefuehl is the boot trim on the right side broken? the one that is holding the cover? min 9:57 above the backpacks :)
Is this coming to the UK?
What's that round rubber thing under the boot floor? Spare wheel you say? That will never catch on
Thank you kindly Thomas and Leah,, 👍🌟🌟👍
🙏🙏
The Rafale is interesting. I own a Megane and it has that large keyfob. It’s a battery, four buttons, and a proximity chip for the auto lock and auto start. Why is it so large? There’s no physical key in there. Give me a small Audi style keyfob!
Arm prop for infotainment is a killer idea, I have to improvise and use gear lever for that.
Nice car.
I hate the hype of all these shiny screens and black shiny surfaces.
Superb car! Well done France !
I must say renault is doing very very well in the design department lately
All those old b brands are now ahead of the curve lol
Yeap Peugeot designers
Nah..
nice color
A Great Review as always. I drove Citroens for many years because I liked their idiosyncratic looks but they were horribly unreliable that last year I gave up on the brand and purchased a car from the Volkswagen Group. This Renault does sadly resemble a Peugeot but I think the e-Megane and Scenic are handsome cars, and overall, I really like what Renault are doing at the moment. Renault is the only brand that could tempt me back to buying a French car.
I can't wait for the New Renault 5 to arrive in the UK.
So you sold you soul and bought into German blandness. Time to buy a food car again. You know you want too. A car with a Diamond on it.
the first! from Argentina!
best greetings!
Finally gear stock in the right place.
yes, column shifter is the winner,
column shifter is a clutter
they're really spoiling the dashboards these days with these screens. Having a horizontal screen with a vertical one next to it, is simply an eyesore and doesn't follow design-wise.
Bravo Renault. French Touch is back.
Very nice looking car for the price. The 300 hp would be better.
Germans cars are not really better in this segment for quality.
Are sits ventilated ?
Beautiful car
The first Renault i would consider buying...Wish it was a 4 cyl
Lease it as a phev
@@senoow4215 Way to expensive for a 1.2 3cyl phev prob will sell around 60k full option. Thats 420i territory
@@krisianzavalani if i made enough i def would pay 600/month for it, 300hk with 4wd and rear wheel steering
@@senoow4215 I meant 60,000 the price. Configured one on lease the 1.2 hybrid 200hp and for 36 months 30,000km with 0 down payment was around 630/month.
Renault has chosen to balance the powertrain in favor of the electrical system to seek energy efficiency. This is even more true in the 4x4 300hp version of the Rafale. In order to have good efficiency and keep costs acceptable, the 3-cylinder option was the solution :)
Would have been good if they had the recessed door handles like the Megane E tech
Why oh why 3 cylinder 1.2 ? Give us 1.8T from Mégane rs wit those electric motors and this would be such a great and exciting car....😢
as a french, I am appalled that this is considered high end car … but what can we do ? max speed is 130kmh, so french brands don’t need to design good engines like the germans, and owning a sport or luxury car is socially not well accepted (I have friends with villas in St Tropez and the nicest car is a 208)…
It's political... people love nice engines but gas taxes, eco tax,... they are killing it. I amazed Fr car manufacturers are surviving with this non sense situation. Seems that our politics want to let the DE lead the Auto business in EU... it's a shame. Hopefully things change soon.
hello, please make the exterior walkthroughs longer!
Noted
Amazing car !! French are doing great right now love the new Renault, Peugeot and coming Citroens!!
poor small engines
Renault could put another lever on the right side of the steering wheel, or at the top. 2 is fine, 3 is better and 4 would be just the right amount.
max front leg room?
Thomas Blue :)
The mid 2000 megane had the same style for handbrake
So did the Ford S-Max.
Multi-stalks steering wheel!
As you can see, Tesla is very stingy by comparison 😁
before clicking the vid i thought its a peugeot
Thank you, good review as always Thomas. I have Arkana now for 3 years and I'm looking for a change. Yes, this Rafale it looks kinda "new" and as "usual" at the same time, have some cool features and things to take some extra points from rivals, but for me the downsize are the engines. My Arkana is a Mild-hybrid and I'm happy with my choice, it is a good car, but also lacks in other areas that I wanted to be better (suspension, handling, some extras, etc). Arkana and other models from Renault are known on forums and some social media groups that the full hybrids are more prone to diversed failures and to give more problems to owners. So, after some reading and watching lots of content from internet, I put on my shortlist 3 future cars to purchase: Kia Sorento, Skoda Kodiaq and Mazda CX60. This Rafale is almost in the same price range 50 - 60k Euros (obviously with some extras) with the cars from this list and I believe this are his direct rivals, rivals who are better equipt and and have better engines.
Thanks for the feedback!
Have you seen the new Sorento. Not a pretty car at all. Thus is a thousand times better looking and way classier. At least give it a try when you are trying out the others. Then make up your mind.
@@sharonec5419 Renault is not making bad cars, but they cut some corners in build quality and some options are not available like from other brands (vented seats for example). Renault want over 50k Euros for this Rafale, so the car must check in many points over the competition to be bought. Obviously I'll test the cars in time and do more research till I decide which one is better for me.
Thomas, where are the English subtitles?
still coming, this was a quick production
A lot of new cars are going in the same direction of that unnatural/ detached feel from the road.
You no longer feel the road in your steering wheel. I suspect its a result of the electric power steering (EPS) to assist driving.
Looks like they hired a Peugeot designer. You can't feel the classic Renault design at all.
which one is better Austral or Rafale ?
From what I see in the description seems the Rafale and Austral are on the same chassis. Austral is a bit shorter.
The Rafale of course.
For some reason it appears very plasticky and tacky to me and I wonder about the reliability of these small displacement engines. It would be interesting to know what the emmisions are with this hybrid system??
Puretech engine with wet belts, engine will fail easily. Now more electronic parts with the hybrid systems to worry
Good vehicle
I like her smile while you are testing the door sound 2:48. And yeah don't get me started on that Clio key fob. Also the clunking sound when the door is closed, reminds me of an old Renault 4. A car that costs anywhere north of 25k should sound differently.
A friend of mine is fond of Renault cars (even F1) but he will never buy a 3 cylinders high end Renault. It's a big mistake like BMW with its sports car now defunct. And this engine had problems which of course are solved but it's a bad omen for a "flagship" car... A 4 cylinders with bi turbo or compressor and turbo would have made a halo car with two versions : sport or confort and economy, maybe in same version depending on the mood...
that pick-puck turning indicator sound... 🤦♂️
phev details is the missing piece...is a 22kwh battery realistic for this model??
see video description / pinned comment !
@autogefuehl did not notice the description, i am a bit surprised about how big the battery is...curious to see the pruce and how it will affect the space. Tnx!
Yeah indeed
An unexpectedly good looking car. I wish the engines were a bit more powerful. I consider this kind of dynamics to be inappropriate in 2024.
Patrick Le Quément. Please come back.....
Am I the only one who doesn’t understand why Renault didn’t offer this car with the same 390hp AWD dual electric engine as the Nissan Ariya? It would have been faster and more fun to drive than the unreliable 1.2l 3 cylinders engine they put in this. Hope they will eventually offer it as an option 🙏
The renault 3 cyl is reliable, don't confuse with the Peugeot one
@@philv3941 nah man it might be better than Peugeot's pure tech engine, but Renault's 3 cylinder TCE engines have recurring problems that Renault is well aware of and they also cost more than Peugeot to fix. All 3 cylinders hybrid engines are crap, awful to drive and are the opposite of sporty. The gearbox never knows which gear to select, engine gets so stressed out that it sounds like it's going to explode, etc. Give me a 400-500hp electric engine with instant torque any day over this for the same price...
that overlapped km digit hurts my eyes somewhy
Does it break the sound barrier ?
No but the plane it is named after didn't either.
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That's beautiful and that colour is to die for! I hope they'll consider making it in EV form!!!
Problem with Big Renaults is that price fall like a rock,my Senic i bought in 2009 is perfectly fine,everything works ,probably can be driving for next 10 years ,i have now 2 other cars so is mostly parked it but to sell it i would get almost nothing ,like price off 4 good tires
the exterior lines are like the citreon C4x, it doesn't look very nice. It has a simple appearance. Austral is much nicer. Also, a distinctive feature, in PSA group and Renault models, fabric gray tones and black seats are dominant. Why aren't there light colored leather or faux leather seats? Have interior visions developed that much?
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real premium quality and it shows. but the back doors have hard plastics at the top ! i have a volvo s40 2007 and the back doors have soft plastics even at the top and fiber cloth at all the side doors.
Very common on most new cars, money saving.
Even Audi's that cost 100k euros today have hard plastic on the rear doors.
@@derbigpr500that's so strange because my Dad's lexus IS from 2008 has all soft touch everywhere
Times have changed. GOLF used to have soft doors in the back in 2012. But today even midrange Audis do not have them
I think DS9 is a France flagship?
From the other big manufacturer, yeah
Hasn't Android automotive changed name to Google built-in? Regarding info @6:20
As far as I know this description is being used additionally, when they also use GAS, Google assisted services, meaning that they directly access Google apps
@@autogefuehl Ok, why make it simple, nice system though. And nice videos Thomas, keep 'em coming.
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Very nice design. 'Bon' review, both. Could that giant hand rest be replicating an aeroplane throttle control? Pushing it forward to accelerate?
merci beaucoup!
hehe well now that you say that, actually does remind of that. Chief engineer didnt mention that, but probably you should have told them that before =)
well noticed
The scale effect on the grille works here. Other Renault cars… mmmmaybe not
1.2 litre engine and three cylinders all stressed out. Add in complicated hybrid battery systems.... It won't see 100 000km....
Renault's hybrid system is probably one of the simplest ones because it's almost a manual gearbox with actuators, not CVT but it also makes it less smooth and more rev-happy because it has less gears.
@@TheFPSPoweris that better then?
@@senoow4215 I don't know, it's relatively new so long-term realiability is unknown, but it is a very simple system which should help. There's a video on youtube of a guy that did a teardown of one of those transmissions.
@@TheFPSPower yeah issa car which most will lease i bet
Hybrid systems take stress off the engine. It might last longer than you think.
Skoda enyaq French edition.
It looks better than the Enyaq though.
@@jacobzimmermann59 hmm not in my opinion. Skoda enyaq looks higher quality in the right trim from the outside and interior. It has potential to look classy. This just looks… French.
Door closing sounds like 2CV.
What’s up with that ugly key? Car is exactly beautiful. 😊
Looks good but I will never trust Renault again with my money. Megane 2 former owner ...
It seems a poshier and more aggressive Arkana. The pricing in UK is not convincing, and the battle against so many hybrid SUV is tough, ZRV, CRV come to mind.
So bored of SUVs.
You are bored, but customers are not :)
@@principsus Yeah, it's sad
This is not an SUV it's a fastback and believe me they are different. Fastbacks are not as high as SUVs but are lower but still higher than a regular hatchback. Oh if only Top Gear was still on TV.
I love to have my butt scraping the road... never understood why people love so much driving with that semi truck feel... indeed boring... btw rafale is not only the old renault plane but also one if not the best fighter jet plane in the world
@lmartinmiami82 Also SUVs are more uneconomical too because they have a bigger and higher front end.
why renault using 3-cylinder with turbo 1200cc and toyota 1800cc atmosphere.Really dissapointing
looks like peugeot 408
Renault has hired Peugeot chief designer Gilles Vidal, so that's why they all look -a- like now starting with this Rafale all the way to scenic, face lifted Clio and Captur and new symbioz. Hope this helps
Looks much better than 408 but that wouldn’t be difficult
@@podge5555 You find 408 ugly? First time I've heard anyone say that besides they were designed by the same designer if anything I think they're both equally great to look at👌🏾.
@@MI-Tech yes I do. I think parts of it in isolation look good but the overall design is incoherent and badly proportioned
If this is the pinnacle of French auto industry, they should really give up on making cars!
The pinnacle if French automotive industry is Bugatti, that should do.
@@jacobzimmermann59 Bugatti....is owned by Volkswagen. The Engineers, are also from Volks Wagen. Only the shell design is influenced by the French Bugatti, but even that, is Volks Wagen. So, nothing French. Pure German.
@@jacobzimmermann59 Bugatti is Italian heritage with German engineering 🤣
I got into a 2021 Audi A3 and I am rather disappointed with the interior quality. I waited better quality compared to french cars.
@@stephen10. I hated the interior of Audi S3 too. They have used so much plastic to reduce the cost. But still I put it above Renault.
Door closing sound is super cheap 😂😂
Car looks really good but I won't trust the technique of the engine if you also look at the Renault Austral.
What's wrong with Renault engines?
And this is the best trim, door sound is even worse in the base trims
Well, the new one is not that great.
Way too small and with so much technique it will cause problems (using the Austral as example).
I had a Grand Scenic from 2017 (diesel) and that one was great.
@@BrateTebra123 They really missed out on this. How expensive can it be to improve the doorsounds 🤣🤣
I swear this car looks like a hundred other models...
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Wow, just wow! Have the automobiles gain so much weight nowadays or what is it? I remember having 200hp atleast reaching around 7ish seconds to 100km/h not too long ago? And certainly having 300hp going 5 seconds! And now barely. 6.5 sec. A little disappointed 😮
the best french car WAS the 2Cv with is comedic approach to design it is a timeless classic!
How hard is to integrate the screens ....? Cars with such monitors sticking out are so ugly , looking cheap and incomplete.
For the price, doors sound horrible and hard plastic on rear top of the doors... Not worth it and I was really hyped for the car. Current mid-trim Talisman has soft materials in rear doors and much more massive feel to them. It was also cheaper in 2016 than this.
For the price ? All EVs from germans brands cost 10K€ more and are not better made at all.
@@stickygeiden Not just EVs, same story is with Austral, petrol version for 38K eur. A few patches of alcantara and 3 colored stitching "ahh class" and in reality if you touch around it - cheap hard crap we used to laugh at in Dacias back in 2010. Bro has some Lexus SUV - hard plastic at back, when you hold the doors it feels like 15, not 55K eur car
Je pense dans les 5 années prochaine personne ne va acheter français .. avec les moteurs de séchoir qu’on reçoit et tou les problèmes plus les prix exorbitants… tout le monde va acheter Volkswagen et Audi.. c malheureux vraiment je me rappel des R25 505 gti 205 gti on est où mnt on est où ???????
I disagree. I will happily buy a brand new Renault sometime in the next 5 to 10 years :)
My only issue always with the modern French cars have been reliability. Their cars usually look very nice, but break down like once a week. PSA always has had major engine problems too. Like, running the rubber timing belt through oil, which causes it to break within 20-30k km and then ended up national TV yet still refused to fix it.
2:50 noticed the same thing in the Belgrade Motor Show few months ago. Disappointing to see such non refinement on the flagship car. Kida makes the build quality on the same level as Clio.
Peugeot has this developed on a much more refined level
This is how Arkana should have been
200hp 8.9 secs means the car has 160hp
french are not good with benzin hybrid system. they should stay with 1.6 diesel
Renault just can’t get away from the hollow sound from the doors and when driving. They have a light hollow feel and don’t feel solid. Renault’s always sound different…..not enough sound proofing. When test driving a car, try to do it in the rain. When driving through a puddle of on the motorway you can tell the sound difference in the wheel arches and sounds into the cabin. Even how the rain sounds on the roof……you will tell how much soundproofing they’ve used.
Bullshit
@@1478805 Charming!
That's nonsense.
That shifter is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever seen. It is so completely dumb. Could they put it any closer to the top of the wheel?
I'm driving company Austral and that shifter is one of the most practical ones I driven in automatic.