How Every Draft Analyst Is Wrong On Him
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- Опубліковано 10 кві 2024
- Every year one guy in draft gets crapped on because we bored of talking about the same thing over and over or simply start overthinking on a guy...
This year the NFL world has soured on Drake Maye for overblown reasons.
Drake Maye is a guy who should be talked about as one of the next potential greats we have seen in the NFL.
Today we go over numerous reasons of how Draft Analysts are wrong on Drake Maye.
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It happened to Herbert, they said he was too boring and conservative, even though he showed out at the combine and played well enough at Oregon, nobody wanted to project him getting better
Haha I loved Herbert too. I remember telling my friends he was better than TUA and they all would mock me. Not anymore..
I think they are different styles, him and Herbert, but I agree they are being treated the same.
Very disappointing.
@@JustAnFootballGuy Very different QBs. The only guy in college that reminds me of Herbert is Drew Allar, who I think is next up. Maye is a combo of Josh Allen, Stafford, and Big Ben
@@nicknova703 Maye's closest comp is, actually, Sam Darnold. And you don't take Sam Darnold at #3...unless you're the NY Jets.
@@Mooseman327 you have a really good eye, the nfl should hire you
@@Mooseman327maybe as a floor but these guys all get better and this business is projection
I love Maye for my Pats. He fits what the organization has embodied for the last 20+ years. I’m talking about the underdogs who have made names for themselves like Welker, Edelman, Brady etc. Let the media keep trying to bring Maye down, because all that’s going to do is fuel his hunger. It’s the perfect fit for both parties.
As a jets fan, I pray to god y’all don’t get him☹️☹️just A couple more years of struggle plz
L😆L this is a new regime has anyone even said what system they will be running?
@@EastieRick Probably something similar to the Browns, since thats where van pelt is coming from. Could be Promising!
@@isaacboone1255 Imagine the jets trade up to get maye, piss rodgers off SO MUCH, we see run like never before and he throws for 6500 yards and 60 touchdowns, winning 2 superbowls haha. Thats what I'd do
He gives off a brady mentality kind of guy not gonna lie. i don't think the Pats are a good situation witht he current supporting cast, but you never know.
The best part about all this is that the exact same thing happened last year just on a much larger scale with Gonzalez. In my mind he was CB1 but thanks to the talking heads and other so called experts way over analyzing him he completely fell off boards and fell all the way to 16. And the games he was in he was a game changer, the same thing happens with Maye. Can’t wait for him to make everyone pay too.
Yeah I was one of the guys lower on him… Hopefully he continues his great play. It was only for a few games though and Belichick is gone as well. That certainly doesn’t help. If he can be that No.1 guy, the Patriots could quickly turn this around by next year.
@@JustAnFootballGuy While it was only for a few games, it was against the best receivers in the league. Being that good against the best in the league at that consistency likely isn't a fluke.
Maye has huge potential, but from my own scouting I see some very concerning trends with him. Watching film, I see really weird pocket awareness. Everyone says his O-line was bad last year, but when I watch, I see him often getting happy feet and moving out of a solid pocket and into pressure. Then, when that pressure is there, he makes poor decisions and is inaccurate.
He's young and raw, so coaching could help with his footwork and his weirdly inconsistent accuracy. But pocket awareness and the panic factor are tougher to change. The kid has prototype size, and a great arm, but I question his mental make up and instincts. I see him being a Jameis Winston type QB. He'll put up stats, and have some great games, but he will also make mind boggling mistakes and frustrate you.
Agreed- i could see him being a Brett Favre type as well.
He’ll win the team games…but like you said they’ll times he throws a Josh Allen style ugly pick.
Drake Maye is only 21 years old. He’s not NFL ready, I like his potential and with patience and proper coaching he will develop into a top QB for New England. Maye has the QB body and comes from an athletic family. Patriots will be drafting Drake Maye.
Absolutely. I don’t think he should start either. He does need to sit for at least year or play and get better each year like Josh Allen. I would prefer the sitting though.
@@JustAnFootballGuy nah... sit the first 4-5 games unless then start unless the QB starting has a hot hand and they're 4-1
Correct
definitely play him in garbage time, winning or losing
Great job, first time watching - you should do a show on sleepers and why.
Thanks appreciate you watching! I could maybe do that, you mean sleepers in the draft or in general for the NFL?
@JustAnFootballGuy I watched Patriots and Jones. The biggest knock was not used to lots pressure, and he panicked. I love QBs that have mediocre or bad offense lines in college.
Drake Maye... YOU are a New England Patriot.
You guys should pick MHJ or trade back for nabers and rebuild
The last thing the Pats need is a QB, you need a team first or NOBODY will succeed there.
Nope... redskins
Coming to DC
@@JustAnFootballGuyTHANK YOU! 💯
I've been saying this since January. If we stay at 3 we should absolutely take Marv if JD goes to WAS. If we trade down (say, with MN), I'd love to see us take Penix and BTJ.
Hey man, just wanted to let you know your an underrated creator, keep it up bro I know you'll get famous 1 day. Go Pats!
Thanks man, I appreciate the love! Hopefully Maye will the guy for you guys.
Yooo I love the thumbnail! Is it inspired by Brett kollman?
Thanks! It may or may not be👀.
Another very entertaining and high quality video
Thanks for watching and the support man! Do you think the title now fits the video or would a title like “The Hate Is Out Of Control” be more suitable?
@@JustAnFootballGuy I’d try “The hate is out of control” because this video isn’t getting many views right now so maybe that could help it get more views.
Savage, but I will take it
I love Maye, and I like Daniels too. But it wasnt fair that “experts” trashed Maye for his last season when he had less talent than the year prior, but simultaneously pretended like Daniels’ time at ASU or even his previous year at LSU didn’t count. Completely mind boggling
Exactly man. that’s exactly what I was thinking when I was making the video. Media analysts are weird
I was worried you were going to say this. Wish so much he had made it to the Vikings. Thanks so much for getting back! Hoping he can overcome!
Yeah it’s not to say he won’t do good in New England, he could be amazing. That’s the beauty of the draft and the NFL. You never know.
But no problem!
Well done video
Thank you !!
He is already loved and a leader in the locker room, can't wait to see if it holds up tomorrow when the experienced guys arrive at OTA's
Definitely a leader! I would be weary though of what the media will say on how wow he performs good or bad with OTA or at training camp, it’s going to be a few years for him to be good most likely
As a Pats fan, really excited we got Maye! Although it makes absolute sense for Daniels to go #2 and that isn't a bad or wrong move at all. Consider the teams involved. Washington has Kliff Kingsbury as O.C who probably wants to deploy Daniels like he did Murray! Wheras here, Alex Van Pelt is new OC, and runs a vertical passing game in New England.....in the wind, snow and sleet half the season and need a Maye caliber arm to run it. So they make sense where they are! Plus Daniels is mich more likely to start immediately! Whereas, I think if Mayo is pressured by idiot fans and media and that disloyal weasel of an owner we have ...and he throws Maye into the fire immediately, w/our current roster, it may ruin him! The coaches MUST stay the course and work on his mechanics and footwork untill he is squared away and have him learn to read NFL defenses and see the speed of the game for at least one season until be is what he has the potential to be! Have him also run the scout team and get extra reps in practice!
He can wow you with his arm talent but that doesn't matter all that much if you don't consistently make the gimme throws! Making those short and intermediate throws that a defense gives you is what moves offenses consistently!
Maye is capable of making any/every throw on the field.....which is why it can be frustrating to watch him sail tosses to the flat over his RB's head or throw a bullet that rips up the dirt at his feet, so often!
His erratic accuracy is because of his mechanics! His footwork was all over the place last season and appeared to get worse! To the point I wondered wtf his position coach was doing and why it kept happening!
He needs to learn to settle down in the pocket and stop bouncing and shuffling his feet. Stride away from any trouble ,set, step and throw...shortening his throwing motion would help I bet, but takes alot longer to learn to do naturally than fixing happy feet!
Let Maye Develop. Jacoby is the prototype of a bridge QB and understands his assignment here! He is a solid teammate and will try to help Maye also! If we stay the course, we will be rewarded! He will be 22 w/another draft and free agency to help the roster he kicks off with and he would at least have a fighting chance..... and could quite possibly be good! But fans and media here are morons and will call for heads during a rebuild they know is happening and if they toss Maye out there,I worry he won't be good and the morons will want the next shiny thing!
I want Maye to have success because his attitude and aura is that of an excited puppy and I don't want him to lose that! Lol.
I can see Daniels having a big year .....but fading like RG3,w)either a major injury or multiple debilitating ones . He is way too slight and taking off from the pocket could get him wrecked and cause yet another rule change that takes away something a defense can do!
Daniels has an issue with taking sacks. When he is under pressure, the number of times he takes sacks is a really high number
I’m throwing a flag for excessive exclamation marks
Good video man w some valid points. However I tend to trust Merrill Hoge's analysis, as he has one the best track records around. Daniels and Penix best QB prospects in this draft. Williams Maye and McCarthy most likely to be busts
Everyone misses. Chris Simms was considered the best until he missed on a guy.
Daniels has some serious issues that I am really concerned about. 1. Being Pressure to Sack rate is terrible 2. His arm strength is not good. 3. One year breakout
But I appreciate the comment and thanks for watching ! Hope you stick around for more vids
@@JustAnFootballGuy ya man, if we all had the same opinions it would get boring quickly. Keep up the good work!
Merrill Hoge also didn't rate mahomes just saying.
I will say I’m ALL in on maye but I can’t say he has the highest ceiling in the draft over Williams, I think given the right coaching staff and supporting cast they’ll both be absolute juggernauts, great video tho man
I think I like Maye’s demeanor and how he holds himself better than Caleb, and just with Maye being a Raw Prosspect, the amount is f growth and fine tuning… I just think it would be better than Caleb.
that’s my delusional take though haha. But I get what you mean though.
Thanks for watching, check out some of my other content too!
Drake Maye was largely considered a close QB2 to Caleb Williams for the past 2 years. These analysts have focused so much on the coachable flaws that they forgot why they fell in love with him in the first place. Can't teach those traits, and he was throwing guys "NFL open" at ages 19-20. Elliot Wolfe came from the Packers, an org that knows a thing or 2 about finding gems at WR/TE/OL later in the draft.
My prediction is he will sit a year, Pats will take a blue chip WR or LT in next years draft, they'll probably fill 1 of those needs with all the cap room, Maye will look rough the first few weeks but then we'll look at his numbers at the end of year 2 and say, "Wait, Drake Maye had 4,300 passing yards and threw for 32 TDs and the Pats are in the playoffs again?" It'll be very similar to Jordan Love except Drake Maye won't have to sit behind a wacky legend for 3 years until he gets his shot
Drake Maye is a Beast he just needs time to develop
Honestly I think it's more of a footwork thing in the off season. He could play and be just fine with the mindset of in the off-season, he will work on stuff.
But being in New England and the supporting cats being bad. I think they should wait to play him, have him work on footworl and next year is the year he starts AFTER they get a No.1 guy for him to throw to
Subscribed buddy! Have a youtube channel myself on a different account. Always willing to support the small guys!
Small for now! Thanks I appreciate the support man
So How did Maye exactly have a elite year in 2023 when he threw for 24 tds and 9 ints?
Using PFF individual grades, which grades him based on individual performance, separated from the team around him, it shows he has been elite. The grading is based on each play and how well he performed for each play.
A better performance stat is is BTT’s and TWP’s, which is solely QB driven. I point that out a little later I think. My point was with them that he didn’t have much at all working for him with the WR’s , scheme and O-Line. Which was dog water tbh. He carried that team easily. At least was asked to do so.
Did you watch any unc games?
@JustAnFootballGuy PPF also had Sam Howell as a 91 overall adjustment and Drake Maye as a 90 adjustment. Maye's stats almost mirror Sam's and we know how that worked out.
@@JustAnFootballGuy Drake Maye is Sam Darnold. Do a comp between the two and tell me that they are different.
There are massive problems with Drake Maye’s game. PFF over values big time throws and does not have a way to incorporate the throws that Maye leaves on the table very consistently. Watch the last game of his career and you will see him passing on wide open checkdowns with 10 yards of space. Missing two of those should offset a 20 yard big time throw, but that is not how PFF’s system works. PFF grade has never been a good predictor of college to NFL success.
WHOS HERE AFTER WE DRAFTED MAYE. LETS GO PATS NATION!!
Tom Brady 2.0?
@@JustAnFootballGuyno. Tom Brady is 1/1. Drake will be Drake. Gonna be a dog though. Just know Drake maybe and pop Douglas gonna be lethal in time
What do you think about Maye landing in New England? Many say it’s the worst case scenario for him. I was hoping for the Vikings. Do to think he can make it work with the Patriots? I hope so
It is worst case scenario, based on it being one of worst supporting casts out of the teams that were considered to draft him.
No No. 1 receiver, it is vital to have a guy like that. Lawrence was a generational talent and hasn’t gotten that guy yet.
The receivers there are good comp pieces, meaning they are good 2nd and 3rd receivers. But they aren’t that alpha x receiver. Even the guys they did draft. Aren’t that either, could be, but it’s not what they did really in college.
3. The offensive line is in shambles. Not a good sitch.
I think Maye can overcome it, he did it at UNC. Not a good scheme, or o line. He had Tez for some of year, even so, he wasn’t a no.1 WR.
It could be a rocky start. But I think sitting Maye is the base scenario for the Pats until they level up the talent next year and iron out a few things for Maye.
Im a patriots fan so I would obviously love for him to pan out, but even his best case scenario doesn't come close to Caleb Williams most likely outcome, much less his best case scenario
I disagree. Mayes physical attributes are top percentage. Caleb’s is not great.
I'm so curious to see who starts. Brissett has experience & he's not terrible but I can't imagine Mayo putting the ball in his hands to be the leader of this new era for the Pats. Also, their new QB from UT doesn't seem like he'll fit their scheme either...
I would be good to let Maye sit for the year, or at least most of it. Let him iron out some of the things he needs to work on.
My theory for them Drafting Joe Milton, is because he is very inaccurate and it will make Maye look way better in. Pre season haha
As a Pats fan, I hope you’re right
If they surround him and develop him right, I really think he will.
As a commanders fan I was hoping we would go with Maye instead of Daniels
I was hoping Maye would go to the commanders too..
I don’t like Daniels, but what I can say is he is a great fit for the scheme that Kliff will be running there.
Lets go Pats!!! Drake will be a special for us. He will grow with a top 5 defense for most of his career. He will end up elevating the guys around him unlike the last 🍜 💪 jag. The locker room will love draco from, he's the leader we need to start playing NE football again. LFG
You forget Belichick is gone now. The defense could regress significantly. It might not but I would not count on it being amazing
@JustAnFootballGuy I guess the players left with him too. Mayo is highly respected around the locker room, I believe the defense will play even harder for him.
THANK YOU IVE BEEN SAYING THIS SINCE THE OFFSEASON HIT. I promise you I’ve been saying this on Twitter for months that Drake Maye is this offseason victim. Not only has Jayden had more time to learn the game. He was in his second yr in the system he was in. Drake Maye had new OC. 2022 was his second yr in the same system because he came in 2021. You can look at a shit ton of really good QBs in the NFL who have amazing seasons. Then lose a OC and an offensive weapon and take a step back the following season. Let me give you an example.
Matt Ryan 2015: 38 TDs 7ints MVP
Matt Ryan 2016 new OC: 20TDs 12ints
Matt Ryan 2017 second yr in new system: 35 TDs 7ints.
I can literally show you multiple examples. So to be over critical on a 21 yr old learning a new system that basically asked him to be super man which he did anyway is crazy. UNC doesn’t win more than 2 games without Drake maye. Watch how they look next yr
Love it man. I am with ya on that.
The biggest issue with Maye is he doesn't do well against man defenses. He's great against zone though.
I’ve heard that a few times, unfortunately I couldn’t locate data to prove or disprove that. PFF used to have that, not sure where it went. I will look again
He feels very much like a Patriots fit.
I’m scared for any QB going to the Patriots if I am being honest. O-Line is in shambles, no No.1 guy to be seen, newish staff and culture to be made.
Dude, the Pats are a TERRIBLE fit for any young QB right now. Waaaaayy too many holes on the roster.
@@GuanRytheFantastic he’s a fit meaning Boston likes the whites and Maye will be better in inclement weather
@@nicknova703 Always about race with you Democrats, very disgusting
Nice call
What if Maye had Nabors and Thomas.... ? I like Jayden but didn't think much of him at ASU or Nix at Auburn
NCAA football would have ended as we know it… the hype train would have been insane
I hope he gets to sit for most of the year then play the last couple of games
That’s a good idea. I think let Brissett play for the year and at the end let Maye get out there.
Welcome to New England!
I think you are underestimating how bad his accuracy is. Also don’t blame his weapons. They got open and he couldn’t hit them. A lot of his bad passes came in the pocket as well. That being said I’m a pats fan and was happy we got him over JD. But Drake is a coin flip, boom or bust
His accuracy is not that bad. I showed you the numbers. It factually isn’t true that he has bad accuracy.
He is a line drive type of thrower, which means when he misses, it’s a bad miss.
He had no weapons there at NC, besides Tez Walker. Whom wasn’t there for a hot minute.
While his footwork needs to be improved upon. A lot of issues fall on the offensive scheme with timing and rhythm.
@@JustAnFootballGuyso he goes from one bad oline with subpar receiving to another bad oline with subpar receiving and expect him to be “elite”
You ppl are insane lol
@@ladyman270I don't get how you see the Pats O line as anything other than average. It's definitely not terrible.
@@jmantruth ranked 20th outta 32 so my bad below average
Gonna be the best QB of this class. Shame the Pats don’t know how to put a cast around a QB.
Yeah the pats are going to need to get o-line re-worked and finally get a X receiver..
I hate when people say someone’s accomplishment and then say I’ll give them that… you haven’t given them anything they earned that
It’s acknowledging it. If I were to dismiss it, to him have an amazing year. That would be worse
He's not a victim of anything, just watch any game from start-to-finish and log all the times he flat out misses a throw or makes his receiver adjust and lose potential YAC. It doesn't mean he's all terrible, but for a guy supposed to go top 5 and be a franchise QB, those are concerning issues that don't often get corrected. It's his throwing motion, mostly-it's elongated and segmented from the rest of his body. Even on short routes he brings the ball down to his waist and away from his body, and it causes real issues with accuracy and ball control. Carson Wentz and Colin Kaepernick were two guys who threw the ball like that-both big time athletes who could make plays, and both couldn't be depended upon as reliable starters.
I really think with proper coaching he will clean up that foot work/mechanics. I mean it's been said by a lot of people it's fixable... So why the hate?
He isn't as inaccurate as Anthony Richardson or Josh Allen was coming in.
I went through not all games but the significant ones and I see the misses on layups but again clean up the footwork and you have yourself a Herbert/Allen 2.0.
Goff has a long throwing motion but I don't see Chris Simms hating on him AND
He had a better Time to throw than Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels and JJ McCarthy. Throwing motion is a ok for him.
Gotta wait
@@JustAnFootballGuyit’s fixable but it depends if he’s coachable, if he is then he’s Josh Allen, if not then he’s Carson Wentz or worse. More often than not those guys are the latter, that’s the problem.
Maye has alot to improve with the right weapons sky is limit
I honestly don’t see a lot to improve on besides footwork and just “maturing” in general. But he definitely needs better weapons and supporting cast than what the Patriots are giving him now.
Sounds a lot like Mac Jones story. Thanks Belichick.
personally, I think Mac Jones is a totally different prospect than Drake Maye. Could not be more different.
But yeah Belichick totally ruined him.
Are you going to get more development at LSU, or up at Gillette amongst men
LSU
Jayden will be another kenny picket
Ooof you really hate him😂
@@JustAnFootballGuy nah just how just don't see him being that good. He had 1 good year when he was older than like 13 QBs that started in the nfl this year
Wait, the play you showed to show his inaccuracy could also be seen as him putting the ball where the receiver would have the safest catch and potential room to run. Risky certainly because the WR may not have been able to make that cut and spin, but there's something else there beyond just Maye threw it behind his receiver.
Edit: watched it again. If the receiver caught it in stride, he was getting laid out immediately. By Maye throwing the ball where he did, the receiver got an extra 4 yards.
I am a little confused. Do you mean the film breakdown by Kurt Warner? because that was more about his processing.
@JustAnFootballGuy At 4:05 in the video. He seems to be doing what Brady has said is missing from QBs around the league lately. He's not just throwing where they can catch the ball, but also what keeps them safe for the next play.
At least with that example. As a Pats fan, I hope that's his idea, and he gets even better at it.
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Hahaha JAFG does not want my Pats to draft Maye....
But do you?👀
lol I’ve accepted that Maye is worth the gamble. Go big or go home right
You take Maye and sit him behind Brisset for the year as planned and let the kid learn the pro game. He’s the best pick at 3rd IMO and you build around that going forward. If you prefer Mac jones 2.0 you pick JJ.
That’s a good plan. I really think it’s the footwork that’s the thing to iron out but of course he will have much to learn.
I think they should trade back, like with the Vikings. Grab a QB, and WR and go from there.
I think McCarthy is very different from Jones. Much bigger and better arm.
Sounds like a Viking.
I hope so
Mitch Trubisky situation
Trubisky was not good under pressure, Maye is
@JustAnFootballGuy he going into a similar situation 2 years of college ball into a team with no offensive weapons. Hopefully history does not repeat
@@wisewolf08we literally just got insane offensive weapons
#201 here!
the accurate word is "potential" hoge seems to think the kid is a coach killer. What you say about that?
Yup I see a lot of potential in him man. I don't know who hoge is, but what I do know is that he ain't a coach killer. The O-Line Protection, and scheme was faulty in the 2023 season. That has nothing to do with Maye and bad coaching. The 2022 season was with good coaching. Really all I have to say about that.
@@JustAnFootballGuyMerrill Hoge
Merril emphatically picked Brian brohm over Aaron Rodgers and doesn’t like Caleb Williams and that’s what you need to remember with an old has been merril hoge
@JustAnFootballGuy Completely agree with you on the Pats taking Marv (and you're a Maye guy, to boot). I've been saying that we should take him at 3 since January
I think Drake will be available at the 3rd pick, so the Patriots are probably going to draft him. 😎
I really hate the Patriots situation for any of these QB's. I know it will be different but with the supporting cast in real shambles. I don't think there is much there to do anything with.
I think the Pats need a WR. trade with the vikings, get a few draft picks and rebuild like the lions did.
My personal take tho.
@@JustAnFootballGuy They really need a QB, though, and who knows what next year’s draft will look like? So they take a QB, sit him for a year, then spend the rest of their picks (this year and next) building up the roster. 😁
@@crazyman8472 that’s what I’m saying, he’s gonna sit under Brissett for a bit, improve his footwork, learn more, and then be good for either the next year or maybe even mid-season depending on how fast he develops.
@@Jagernautt The draft is over! Now we wait… 😵💫
The real hate is going to Bo nix can’t wait for him to prove everyone weong
I agree. I made a video on him as well, in a different manner tho
I don't see Maye doing much unfortunately. As a Patriots fan I hope I'm wrong
Not with the supporting cast he has haha. The WR room is complementary pieces. Quite literally all of them.
@@JustAnFootballGuy idk I think Baker and Polk will turn out well just hope the offensive line gets acclimated and mesh well. The line or lack thereof was what caused the downfall of Mac. That and apparently he had a shit attitude but as fans who are not in the building with him it's hard to tell. I also think Bell will be a factor and the biggest steal of their draft but only because of where he was drafted
I’m not sure what was funnier, all of your excuse based stats or the background music. Listen, Jayden is the better QB right now. But it doesn’t mean that Drake won’t improve. IF he goes to the right situation.
And the one thing that was clearly missing from your analysis is that not only should Drake improve with the right situation, but so should Jayden. JMO ✌️
I mean if you feel Jayden is better what is your proof? You probably look to use stats, factual evidence.
I basically said Daniels is the more polished prospect but Maye has the potential to be much more. It’s why I said the timeline is what’s crucial for Maye and how we are getting it all wrong.
Jayden also had an amazing situation at LSU. Could not get any better than that. Maye was stuck in a crappy situation. I outlined that at multiple points.
I like the music too. Fits… Me 🤷♂️. I guess I am funny then
Huge Vikings fan here, Drake is my choice.
Man I LOVE Drake Maye going to the Vikings... Perfect Situation, I love it man. I see Drake Maye as the Matthew Stafford for Kevin O'Connell, not being the same guy but in the way it opened up the playbook for the Rams.
@@JustAnFootballGuy yes! There’s a “big play” element to Drake’s game that I don’t think JJ has. Drake zipping it over the middle to Jefferson and bombing it downfield to Addison…dude…you would HAVE to out score the Vikes to have a chance
Regarding the pff grades, Daniels' 2023 was slightly better than Maye's 2023 or 2022. Also, Daniels got better every year while Maye had a slight dip.
For this and other reasons, it makes sense to me if the Commanders like Daniels more.
True. That’s why I said I totally see the Heisman winning and caliber year he had this past year.
With Maye’s dip in grading, I should have explained more clearly with the supporting cast just not being good nor the scheme in that 2022 year. But I went on to say after that point that I feel with Maye only playing two years, I feel he would have gotten even better if he stayed.
Still that’s a projection.
That being said I agree with Daniels to the commanders. I feel too, that scheme fits Daniels way better than Maye with Kliff being there.
I wouldn’t hate Maye to the Giants but they have a mess there. The Vikings would be good?
Maye “dipped” because he lost 180 of his targets last year, and his oline was significantly worse
@@JustAnFootballGuy I think Maye is going to NE. He won't start right away buty if he does, he will be fine. The dude has grit and he will figure it out.
@@lukiepookie6227they also got a new offense. Jayden was in his second year of the same system. He was more comfortable naturally with the play calling.
@@ghettosuperstar.__9315 he was also just….In a way better situation
If maye was goin to the rams or vikings with a offensive minded coach i woukd feel better but him goin 2 da pats who will probably be a bottom 3 team again im not sure i like his chances
Yeah that is what my thing was on Maye… I never liked the Pats situation for any QB.
I guess it depends if any of the Rookie WR’s breaks out and is a WR 1. Plus the offensive coordinator is actually good which is a total guess.
I was hoping the Vikings would send the picks for Maye. Perfect situation in my opinion out of all the QB’s selected.
@@JustAnFootballGuy I.
Think that's what made Jordan love look good.He got to sat behind rogers for a couple of seasons before he played
Go PATS!
I mean, folks hyping themselves up over dollar store Justin Herbert when in all likelihood he's just Ryan Tannehil.
The real observation is that probably one QB taken in the first round will actually turn out to be a reliable starter and no one actually knows which it will be.
Nahhh He is a Rich Man's Josh Allen.
But that is a fair observation. That is the reality of it. But what I personally think in particular to this draft, I think 3 QB's will be great franchise guys. All of them have a lot of potential.
@JustAnFootballGuy I mean, if we're in an upside mindset than it's fair to say all these guys have tangible & intangibles that make for exciting prospects.
But statistically the hit rate (i.e. someone who lasted in the league as a credible starter) for QBs taken in the top 10 is something like 30%. That's only 6 or 7 guys in the last 30 years. Even that small sample is heavily skewed because two of those guys were Peyton & Eli Manning.
So its better money to bet that maybe 1 of the current top 3 or 4 QBs will hit, just given the situations those teams are in and the difficulty most will likely have developing rookie signal callers while under huge pressure to turn around their football operations.
That's all I'm really saying.
Drake Maye has a great body he just sucks at all the skills you need a QB to possess. He is inconsistent in his accuracy but it is the mental side of the game that leaves you saying "I do not think this player is fixable." He is slow in getting through his reads and it appears that he has an inability to see receivers coming open if they are not the target he is directly looking at. These two factors combine to make him have to hold on to the ball WAY to long. In all of college football he was dead last amongst division one QBs when it came to time till he releases the ball. I have tried to find another college QB who was similarly slow and went on to be a good NFL QB, but i have not found any. Maye is a QB with awesome highlights, but the more of his games you watch the less you want this kid on your team!
He is not slow with his reads. that is false. His time to throw is BETTER than caleb williamss, jayden daniels, and JJ McCarthy. i'm not sure where you are getting that information, but its just wrong. i have watch pretty much all 2022 and 2023 film on him. The worst games and the great games and in between. It aint that bad
Drake looks like Sam Howell, which is what he looks like to me. Drake forces plays like you said. I think he'll be lucky if he can sit behind a starter for a year.
I can see that. He definitely is bigger than him. I think the big difference is Howell’s accuracy is a lot better but Maye is wayyyy better with avoiding sacks.
As much as I love Drake Maye, he definitely needs to sit or the team he goes to, has to play him in the same projection and same patience as Josh Allen
nope-way better troll!
I’m confused haha
No one knows anything. How many busts have been picked in the very first rounds. We just went through one. I personally think y'all should have kept Mac Jones. He was still on his Rookie contract. Cheap back up. He was good his first season. He could have been fixed. But Milton will do. The only fear I have is that Mac Jones wins a Superbowl or Two. That would make me very mad.
Well Jones isn’t starting any time soon so I don’t think you will have to worry about that. He is backup behind Lawrence now.
It is true though, all of draft picks are guesses. It’s about the process that matters in the end. I think personally people are hating on Maye too much. But the situation is bad there anyways in New England
If Maye isnt taken at #2, I'll be highly disappointed
I hope he isn't taken at 2, I don't like the fit with Kliff there and him. Love the WR's and O-Line none the less
any other draft he wouldve been #1 overall
Absolutely. Like next years draft? Easily #1 overall
Or if he was just on lsu lol
Oh man if he was the LSU QB instead of Daniels… It would be fireworks
Walker only missed 4 games. He was bad in 12 games.
He wasn’t that bad man come on. You are just hating at this point.
J.J. McCarthy plz
Video already out on him on the channel!
So with that being said, Drake may should’ve just stayed in college, but he didn’t so he’s gonna be analyze like he is with everyone else with every other quarterback . He just screams Mitch Trubisky.
Tribisky struggled under pressure in college and pros. It was his concern. Maye isn't elite under pressure but he is not bad either. So the comparison just doesn't work.
If anything daniels being a one year breakout like tribisky should be the kind of comp.
Especially Daniels struggling with pressure to sacks. Its not good.
@@JustAnFootballGuy good analysis. One hit wonder…hmmm? Joe was a one hit guy and he looks good right? So when it clicks for a guy it clicks. Maye’s mechanics are really what drives me crazy. Good and maybe great arm strength but won’t set his feet properly. The Clemson game (big game) drops a dime then just gets figured out…had a pretty good game. I know GMs are drafting on future results but as of now…I’m taking Daniels…and Caleb is a cowboy but it won’t be that easy in the league so everyone has to work hard. Maye would be a starter at Bama, he chose to do UNC. Did he duck competition or was that a wise move…fools gold or solid gold. Only he decides but yea no, I’m taking Pennix ahead of him.
Bro what are you talking bout. For one Caleb is not a cowboy😂 he plays for the bears unless you meant something else but idk tbh what you meant hopefully you can example that. Secondly idk maybe Drake went unc because his father and 3 brothers also went there lol like im not even tryna be petty but you over thought that for no reason lol. Plus all good QBs don’t go to big schools Big Ben went to Miami’s university, Josh Allen went to Wyoming bruh lmao. Shadeur is gonna go number from Colorado lol, Brock purdy went to Iowa, Kurt Warner university of northern Iowa, Matt Ryan Boston college, Tony romo eastern Illinois. You don’t gotta come from a big school to be good in the NFL and you act like UNC is D2 or something lol. Look i think Jayden is fine but i played football my whole life and one thing I’ve never seen is a player be coached out of lack of field awareness. That dude is a deer in head lights when he’s running around. I’ve never seen someone take so many unnecessary hit sticks. Not just tackles but hit sticks. And ppl think that’s gonna last in the NFL? You think jumping in mid air on 1st and 10 and getting bodies slammed by a linebacker is gonna last in the NFL?
@@ghettosuperstar.__9315 “cowboy” meaning a gun slinger type not playing for Dallas my guy. Only time will tell but this is really how people become wealthy: by believing what no one else does (Patrick Mahomes) and maybe Maye is that. He can be brought along with a good HC. But I like yr stuff and will sub. Keep it clean 💪🏾
@@ghettosuperstar.__9315 u made some great points my guy. And the last big draft had Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, ect. Not everyone will be a star, not even with the team that drafted them. Small schools. Maye has all the attributes of a good QB, but the reason I “went there” with the college is because he committed to Bama and Bryce was there and there was no way he could start of that guy. Let’s be real. Getting a starting job is great, you get to showcase but his mechanics are shot. Everyone says he is a project but every “fan guy” isn’t listening. Hey take some screenshots and we can revisit in a few years😂 Ask Mac Jones (one year wonder) how tough it is to play with talent lack. Get at me though
Good, let him fall to the Pats. Please.
I would be surprised if Maye goes to the commanders. I don’t think that’s a great fit for him.
Pff grades arnt reliable maybe watch some tape and youll see drake maye is reckless and is infact a boom and bust factor. Guy telegraphs his throws so bad.
I went through all his film bud. Every game from 2022- 2023. And that was before the video.
@JustAnFootballGuy then get better eyes because guy has so many flaws hopefully he works out in the nfl but he's a project not a top 5 lock how people speak about him.
@@Garsia95 Honestly I think you might be affected by media bias. But we will see! He could flop that’s for sure
@JustAnFootballGuy the media bias is glazing on him what are you talking about??????? it's only a couple guys speaking truth 😤 I'm not saying he's garbage, tho. I'm saying he's not a top 5 guy.
“Pff grades aren’t accurate” right and you the guy that’s probably never put pads on is right? You tryna convince us your smart then abunch of guys that do this for a living. And coaches because as pff has state they also have former coaches help them with film break down and grading. So they’re not accurate but you are haha okay bud. You get 1 take right a yr and think you know ball lol.
maye will be way better than williams or daniels.thanks to mel kiper for hyping the black quarterback at draft time-brilliant.he was right as usual for the first 4 picks.
Drake Maye is Sam Darnold. Exact same player. People are starting to realize this. That's all that's happening.
Sam Darnold had a severe issue with playing under pressure. Drake Maye does not.
You obviously have never watched a single game of Drake Maye.
I think when you're comparing anyone to Tom Brady it's already a mistake. Mental matters. I know you set out on proving he can be good but after seeing your video I'm more convinced than ever he's going to fail and I'm pats fan. I think Jayden Daniels will be the guy in this draft and Although Maye will get time to prepare it won't be enough.
I’m not sure how that’s your conclusion. The Tom Brady thing was a joke, maybe it was a dry but nonetheless a joke.
Thanks for watching
He was born the same month as Tom Brady. Brady was born 3rd August, maye 30th August. He will revive the pats and will win a Superbowl. He will go down as one of the greatest draft picks in the patriots history. PS I never had this feeling for Mac Jones.
Jayden is 97 years old too, Maye went to the shittiest team that got a QB in the first, and he'll be the best one in the draft , and shut these haters up
I’m not a Daniels guy , but my point was just to compare the time they had not to crap on him haha.
Totally agree mate went to the worst spot
With a prospect as flawed as Maye he would need a driving passion to get better in order to survive in the NFL. What aspect of Mayes game improved between his two years of college. What part of his game did not take a big step backwards?
The scheme and supporting cast was bad in his second year. I explained that in the video.
okay but nobody is saying that daniels is clear cut number 2 lol, its back and forth and all over the place, if not a ton of people saying maye over daniels... kinda dumb video lowkey.
There was so many people saying Daniels over Maye. Like everyone was, teams, reporters, mock drafts. Everyone was man.
Besides that wasn’t what the whole video was about
Drake Maye in the third round, Maybe. Maye in the top 3 will get a GM fired and rightly so.
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Unfortunately anyone who watches the NFL can see that the qb play league wide is so bad, QBs like Maye that are young and toolsy will be drafted in the top 10 guaranteed and will start with high expectations. Every year.
That’s crazy man. Maye will only get a GM fired if they draft him to save the franchise. He isn’t that. He is a sit for year or two, or play for 3-4 years and then expect him to take the leap.
It isn’t that bad really.
I'm glad they are spreading false rumors because maybe he will fall and someone like the vikings can pick him up
Honestly I think the Vikings might try to trade up. And I think it would be worth it. That or the giants
You make a video titled "The Hate Is Out Of Control" and immediately start hating on Jayden Daniels. Secondly "Drake Maye has played at an elite level in all his years as a starter" BWAHAHAHA! So two years vs one for Daniels, and BTW no Maye hasn't. He's inaccurate and inconsistent as hell. He'll throw a beautiful 30 yard bomb right on target. Then follow it up with several wildly inaccurate 5-10 yard gimmes. Or throw it into the dirt.
There's a reason his stats vary so wildly against zone vs man. In Zone coverage the DB is farther away and in read and react mode. So Maye's velocity gives him the advantage. But vs Man the DB is in the WRs hip pocket. So accuracy is called for. And Maye's completion percentage drops precipitously to well below average (101st in the BCS IIRC). In the pros all his opponent will do is play man and Maye will struggle mightily.
I really wasn't hating on Jayden Daniels... I think to say he is a better prospect with being a one year breakout is... astonishing.
Nonetheless, with the poor supporting cast around Maye versus the superstars around Daniels, I think it's fair to say, given Pro Football Grades, was elite.
As to his inaccuracy, it's footwork. Something that is coachable.
On the man coverage and zone coverage. I am not sure as I don't have data to look at it myself. So I am unsure.
Lets say he is not great against man coverage though.
The NFL does not play much Man Coverage, most teams play heavy zone. There is some teams that play man to man, but are far and few.
Even if teams ran primarily man against Maye, they don't necessarily have the horses to do so. Especially if Maye lands on a team with Receivers that wreck man coverage.
At the end of the day, the accuracy issue is not as blaring as it was for Josh Allen or Anthony RIchardson.
Its an issue, but one thats overblown and again easily fixable.
thanks for watching though
@@JustAnFootballGuy Joe Burrow was a breakout in his final season, rose to #1 overall, then backed up his rise in the pros. It happens. I think the majority of the hate Drake Maye is getting is because of all the love he got from draft pundits gave the last two years. And some draftniks (me included) think it's overblown.
@@kenm8436 That’s fair, and it might happen with Daniels too. I don’t think it’s good process though to assume he will as well. Especially with arm strength and pressure to sack rate concerns in my opinion at least.
I really think it’s the other way around as of currently. But There was a lot of people liking him, maybe over Caleb before the 2023 season. Now I think people are taking it too far. That’s my opinion.
Same formula every year ever since 6lack QBs have been emerging. Attack the big white QB, did it with Josh Allen, will Levis last year and now drake.
I don't really get what you are saying, but thanks for watching the video.
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Background music is awful, please change
I appreciate the feedback. But I like this music
@@JustAnFootballGuythe music is a good addition to the video in my opinion. Probably turn in down a little bit.
No it isn't....Drake is overrated... overhyped ...you see a 6'4" 230lbs dude and automatically think Herbert and Allen....he isn't.....don't care about ceiling and floor bullshit....what can you do today?....if you are a GM and pick Maye because you are looking into the future and saying my coaches can fix all the inconsistent ball placement...inaccuracy...terrible footwork and dumb drifting into sacks because he has 0 pocket awareness and elongated throwing motion...then yeah....but you cant fix all of that and win games....he isn't ready...and I think our braindead front office is going to pick him and he will fail behind a bad O line...and a dumbass scheme... the Air Raid garbage that Kliff brings....he has bust written all over him....big arm doesn't matter if you cant hit the broad side of a barn...Drake is Sam Darnold....Jeff George and Jay Cutler...all in one.
That is literally hating on him.
Footwork is fixable, and if Teams and scouts are saying the same thing... then we know it isn' this crisis of an issue.
IF you want to bring up sacks, go look at Jayden Daniels he was awful awful with pressure to sacks. Absolutely abysmal. That being said i agree, that scheme with Kliff is not a good fit for Maye.
Sam Darnold had an issue with playing under pressure, Maye does not.
Who did Drake Maye play against who might be worth mentioning? There isn't one. What big game did he play in? None. Overrated. At 8:14 this guys says Drake Maybe has the best potential out of this draft class to be a hall of famer. LMAO WTF did I just watch?
Who did Caleb play against that’s worth mentioning? What about Daniels having a an elite scheme and supporting cast?
He played against some good defenses and looked good besides the Clemson game. The scheme he was in was terrible, and he had no supporting cast.
I think it’s comments like yours that baffle me… that says something ridiculous, without any evidence backing it up. Then poops on my take because they don’t agree?
Did you pay attention at all even?
Thanks for watching though
@@JustAnFootballGuy It’s comments like yours that baffle me. You say something ridiculous without any evidence to back anything up. Name some good defenses he played well against. Can you name one? What was the highest ranked team he played against? I’ll be looking forward to your answers. Let’s be real now.
@@steadyflow3790when scouting QB’s the very last thing that matters is “who” they played against, Patrick Mahomes was Texas Tech, Josh Allen Wyoming, & Carson Wentz a school nobody even heard of
May is not a good quarterback for the nfl. He’s way too inconsistent. He’s an interception waiting to happen. He will be a bust. I wouldn’t want my team to draft him.
He did not have that many interceptions... Caleb Williams had 18 interceptions, JJ had 11, Daniels 7, Penix 12, and Maye drum roll... 10
Dude is a bum 🎉
Why do you think that?
Thats my Quarterback. So happy to have him. Go Pats 🥹🔥🏈
I hope he is a franchise guy for you guys!! I’m rooting for him
Tank you @JustAnFootballGuy 🥹🏈🔥 he's such a wonderful young man and it's great to see our fans embrace him.