The woke stuff is mainly in 5 countries mainly 5 white Anglo nations. Canada United States, Australia, New Zealand and United Kingdom are all tier one Anglo nations and all share identical academic viewpoint. India is more like a 2nd or 3rd tier Anglo nation. Via imperialism. The woke Anglo can export and subvert 2nd and 3rd tier Anglo nation into woke ideology.
India is not an Anglo nation. It is just a post-colonial State that has so far failed to regain its sense of cultural initiative (unlike the non-colonized Asian civs like China, Japan, etc.) Sanskrit was to the Indian continent what Latin was to Europa - the intellectual link language. Considering the modern Indian State is not an ethnic nation-state like the European ones (it's a civilizational nation-state), it must've adopted Sanskrit as its national language - after simplifying the grammar & expanding the vocabulary - like the Chinese & Israelis did.
Strange, isn't it? Even though post structuralism and post modernism have its root in France, french intelligentsia have hardly ever registered in the woke Rader.
@@denk3236 I don't think so, since they were extremely popular in France. Post structuralist discourse when absorbed or appropriated by the anglophone world turned into an whole different beast.
@@JDVmusicSound You don't know the context. Someone liberal got a invitation to teach in Department that do not exist. And she left her job in news channel to join. Nobody is against Harvard.
@@denk3236 And she started having a tag next to her name, Associate Prof. at Harvard and attended TV talk shows in that capacity.... ! All without visiting her employer even once....And it turned out to be fake!
Great points Razib, especially what you mentioned about POC, and as always love your content and questions Abhinav ji. Please keep bringing more interesting people ( who are not political) and ask them questions :)
Yes - unqualified people weaponizing their identity to make a “point” in an outside field. Such a gullible people like yourself, who have a preconceived bias to listen to a male, would definitely believe such trash. None of this has any substance. Have a nice day :) evolutionnews.org/2019/05/geneticist-razib-khan-a-darwinist-and-the-alt-right/
First to comment !! :) Abhinav, Razib and Kushal... always great to listen to you guys and more the merrier .. always learning from you guys. Thank you very much. Good to hear that there cannot be a woke Ram Mohan Roy .. no woke coconuts !!! One less vector worry.
Commenting only because Razib said he reads the comments😁 Great to hear both of you. Very educative when it comes to different perspectives. Waiting for more similar discussions.
Ironically it is....... Economy is almost recovering from the ventilator. Hindutva is like a paper without any economic returns.... And we must keep in mind that India has a diverse population. We cannot let that down. Are there problems with that?? Well yes. But not everything is bad....... We must see into our pages too. I support BJP, but want something new. Yes, calamities will come!!! And they will come without any notice. And we want to see a the skill of the govts to maneuver through turbulence.
@@mos5139 BJP/NCP are the two sides of the same coin. NCP is Left Wing Elitist and BJP is a Left Wing Nativist. So poverty is here to stay for a long long time....
Abhinav are you Bangali? Namaskar from this Bangali brother from Bangladesh Respectfully, 1. Pakistan has significant separatist/nationalist underlying problems, their mini empire / afghan policy can be seen as a diversion and to channel possible separatist energies esp of pathans outward. The same thing with sending out fundies outside, it makes sense for Pakistan. Their political formula for good or ill is based on islam as a state ideology to centralize state authority and exporting fundies helps them get rid of potential problems who can cause trouble inside... and thus fundies becomes a tool of the state to activate as needed. This has been overall a good thing from the perspective of having a strong and healthy state which can override the many cracks and cleavages in Pakistan. 2. Economically Pakistan is aligned with China, with all that entails, and as china sets new milestones Pakistan can ride it's coattails. 3. Geopolitically by cultivating relationship with China even when china was down and out, Pakistan has bet on the right horse. The west is not the future and neither are it's ideological products. 4. On the contrary Pakistan's policy while being aggressive and quasi expansionist is in fact totally logical, their focus is limited, their projects are limited, their ability to play the superpowers against each other and get the best deal is smart. On the contrary Pakistan knows it's limitations and uses what it has seemingly very efficiently, even their defense projects are limited but effective, there's a trend there. At any rate i respectfully disagree with the assessment of Pakistan. 5. On Bangladesh, it's an ethnostate that's the biggest thing going for it. It took a long time to get going, i think partially because Bangladesh is the lesser part of historic Bengal. Compared to West Bengal and adjacent areas to the west in india, Bangladesh not too long ago was a massive fishing hole. For what it's worth unfortunately the better part of Bengal is in India.
Rajib ji.. Nobody is "crying" about what the mughals did here, we are only exposing them more n more, cos first of all most of true history was hidden n secondly Islamists take pride n inspiration from the mughal atrocities to attack their own Hindu "brethrens". .. I hope m clear n others would agree, plz correct me if m wrong!
@@JDVmusicSound Please show some compassion. If you looked back at your history and all you saw was a 1000 year period where every Tom, Dick and Harry from Central and West Asia invaded and conquered at will, whilst your own ancestors stood by and watched, you too would become a victim of inferiority complex and start resorting to compensatory behaviours (e.g. going around announcing how great you are; dissing the people who make you feel inferior etc), in an attempt to salvage your own self-esteem.. What Hindu Nationalists need is psychotherapy for low self-esteem and inferiority complex, not ridicule.
I definitely agree u...young minds of india do not know the history of real Indian Leaders and their policies. Instead they know about mughals so called 'greatness' which lead to massacre of more than 80 million indians!
@@Ashish-ss5nt actually west has been far ahead of india and china for 38000 years out of 40000 years. (Source- why the west rules) Abhijit Iyer Mitra told this
It won’t, because what you strawman as “superficial wokeNess “, is what the normal world calls “basic racial consciousness, and humanity”. Aint a “western” thing lol. Respecting people, and watching your words as a universal value, alas ... Hindutvwadis do this justified hatred thing that Ill never understand
*Hey Razib,* *Say-Jai Shri Ram-the next time and every time just like you said in Kushal's podcast. Thank you for talking so honestly and bringing new and unbiased points to the table.*
Great talk as usual Abhinav and Razib(you are great on CH as well). @Abhinav : could you host a talk on why the awakening of sense of history and finding their place in the world is seemingly happening now in Indians. Secondly how Indians can become more confident to not become colonized by western intellectualism. Indians are doing this now a little and need to more in terms of asserting their ideals.
When you have to always compare your “secular democracy “, to an Islamic government, which says it right in the constitution, you know you have lost the debate. Imagine an American comparing themselves to Mexico and trying to act like it is a “point “, and not racism. It amazes me how much basic knowledge and rhetorical skill the average Hindutvwadi like yourself lacks .... Which is why you get attracted to random nobody is like razib. Because train, academic people (in the field) do not exist that possess such of use. That’s the point. Good luck!
@@JDVmusicSound just curious, what you prefer living in. A secular democracy or in an Islamic rule? The US or Pakistan purely based on governance and rights?
Razib is clear, logical and to the point. Very refreshing to watch. Abhinav puts people at ease with his demeanor and gets more information. Good job guys.
I was always thinking the same. actually being woke as an Indian is understanding we are the oppressed indigenous people. However as Razib Rightly said the people who is giving the seal of approval of wokism will not care abut any facts. its all about the narrow minded narrative from an average American experience.
Oppression politics is Slave Morality, India needs master morality. Like Razib pointed out, why won't you guys talk about Shivaji, why keep crying about Mughals? We Tamils talk about our Imperial Legacy all the damn time and that's why we have such a strong National presence in the Media&Culture compared to other South Indian States. We just stand out as "Different" by virtue of being assertive.
@@விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக் true that. Here in Karnataka we talk more about tipu sultan more that Krishnadeva Raya without recognising the atrocities committed by tipu sultan. It's sad really. Luckily now things are changing and people talk more about Krishnadeva Raya
Very interesting view Razib, please continue to be objective. In India, our common gripe of Muslims, is that we cannot have an open discussion or a discussion with logic. A Hindu will easily consider a view point that he or she is wrong (if you see Church planted Indologists, this was done on a massive scale over a period of time) and feel shame whereas a Muslim will never consider an opposing view point. Hinduism is all about objectivity and merits, I enjoy hearing your informed view points. Sometimes I feel all of India’s Hindus are like the frog in a well who see only the sky the well permits and thinks its the universe. I wish more Hindus read vs view videos or graduate from WhatsApp university.
Thank you Anubhav for introducing Razib to viewers. I love his wit, wisdom and knowledge. I think i'm now cementing my thoughts on why west hate Hindus. Then i connect it with what Modi is doing regarding Kashi, Ayodhya and economy of $5/10 trillion and i kinda get the point on what needs to be done on sitting at the high table with west
You lot will truly believe anything lol. I don’t know a single person who “hates Hindus quote, and ironic that all of this paranoia of yours only popped up when the guy who is supposed to “rescue”, got elected seven years ago. Your entire ideology is based on a fallacy. Have a good day!
The Hindi problem I 100% agree. In Kerala, Karnataka, TN etc Hindi was never used anywhere, ever. Not part of any of our culture ever. on the other hand Sanskrit was the language of academia and intelligentsia. Sanskrit Yes, Hindi NO!.
You ppl have such a chip on your shoulders. Except some lunatic fringe and ignorant social media comments, who even asks you to learn Hindi? And in the past, whatever little "imposition" of Hindi happened, was done by the Congress because Gandhi was a big fan of the idea of one language for the nation. Savarkar too but this is one thing he was wrong about.
So? There was a point no one in North spoke Hindi. But see, people of Punjab, Kashmir and North East have no issues with speaking Hindi. Meanwhile in West Bengal and south, you people will start getting mad at Hindi and see it as inferior language or culture destroying language, if so, why you accepted English as your language is which way worse than Hindi? Just because it is international language doesn't mean it's better. People of South have double standards.
@@simulify8726 Sanskrit is any day superior to persianized Hindi. 100% Indian languages like Tamil, Bengali, kannada, malayalam are superior to the persianised compromise called Hindi. Language determines your thought process, a language corrupted by arabic and Persian culture will never help Dharmic revival, I will even dare say congress made it official language of India for that one reason.
@@simulify8726 FYI English is an Indo European language, so it is a descendant of Sanskrit, just like Hindi is with out the arab cultural pollution. But my point remains Lets go for original the greatest of all languages humans discovered Sanskrit.
@@Captain_Sosuke_Aizen But why do people like you always try to sidestep this question, where is this "imposition" that you talk of? And if no one is imposing it then what excuse do you have for always suo moto railing against Hindi and its speakers? Bigoted much? BTW... if one also counts ppl who speak it as a second tongue then the number is in many many 10's of Crores... Its already the Lingua Franca across North India and even places like UAE where Indians go to work... So it has many takers on its own...
This could so easily be countered by building good institutions in India But our governments failed since independence Now Modi govt is building a lot of IITs and AIIMs But it should focus on revamping education and social science institutes too, as they control the narrative
I noticed Hindu nationalist always think that there is some type of money to be made by dealing with India. They do this with Twitter as well.How delusional
Now that Razib mentioned in his last podcast, Abhinav's cheek do look like Rasagulla! I heard the podcast with "Tony", my god was that hard to listen to, I would love to get hear an articulate anti BJP person point out the policies government implemented to qualify BJP being facist coz I haven't heard any. BTW try to get Alexei Arora or something like him an expat from a non US or non anglo country.
@@Austenite762 Because these crazies can’t handle the truth, which is why they have to live their entire life in mythology and hating minorities. Everybody knows that Hindu nationalism is fascism lol
22:20 the reactive focus and lack of positive vision is seen in other ways as well. E.g. whenever BJP shortcomings or misrule happen, instead of trying to improve the BJP, the reaction of the right is always to point to how much worse Congress is.
Woke hierarchy was very insightful!! Also its value for a particular class of Americans ... good analysis! 👌 Rajib must be reading about Jati/ Varna.... but what meaning is he making out of it?? You need to read Rajiv Malhotra on the caste system and the value it provided to Indian society. Todays US/Europe has a varna system. Why should it be so difficult to understand? Also Rajib, please challenge yourself on this endogamy theory. Make a flowchart to identify weak links in your theory... i wish I had time to read a completely new area ... 🙁
Hey Razib! A question out of interest: what motivated you to post a picture on twitter, as you mention in this video, of a pig with a quran in its mouth in the first place? I mean, it would be such a provocative and offensive act towards any religious community - replacing the quran with the bhagavad geeta, guru granth sahib, or the torah etc would be received in no different light - that I feel puzzled about what may have motivated you. Especially given your grip on social and cultural issues sensitives, as it appears to be, one would normally expect a more empathetic approach? Curious to know; would be lovely if you responded. Thanks, and keep up your interesting works!
Razib aint a historian or something but his points are always logical and straight to point. Abhinav prakash's guests are always highly intelligent people.
@@JDVmusicSound Lol yea ofc ...he is 'aLT-Right!..he is the bad guy!' Nowadays, if the left cant oppose logic of anyone they disagree with and cant classify him/her as traditionalist than they classify him/her as alt-right. So, you can keep that article with yourself and tell if any particular point he mention ed in the video is wrong.
Hello Abhinav, I am big big fan of your channel, I can’t support you in any way other than like, share and subscribe. I watch every video completely. Thanks for wonderful meaningful content.
21:07 Ppl have started making fun of slam and tbh had always made fun of slim It's obvsly not done on thr face cuz it's impolite and illegal (blasphemy is illegal by the law in India)
The most important thing he said was to become rich and powerful. Unfortunately, the west won’t allow this. They’ve made the rules of the game and they’re happy so long as you follow them (and know your place). If you attempt to create a parallel power structure. Expect a challenge and be prepared to defend it. But this alternative needs to be defined and be consistent. Personally, I think the subcontinent (India and Pakistan specifically) cannot be successful until they overhaul their justice system and make the locals believe that they can get justice. Everything follows from that. Also, politicians need to realise that are they playing T-20 (short term), one days (medium term) or test matches (long term). If you want to be successful, you need to focus on being successful in the long term whilst protecting the short term and medium term. So sometimes, politicians need to play the gentleman’s game, accept losses graciously and agree to fight another day. If they are constantly just focused on the short term, you’ll never get out the rut. If you give the opposition the chance to believe they have a chance at power, they are less willing to play dirty and start playing it as a zero sun game.
Hinduism isn't predicated on Varana intertwined Jatti that's not required VARANA IS BASED ON EDUCATION AND THE QUALITIES OF THE INDIVIDUAL IF YOUR FATHER IS A DOCTOR DOESNT MAKE YOU A DOCTOR
I have been saying what Razib said, but differently, the progressive Indian community have always associated itself with the modern powerful global entity, for example - Gandhi, who according to the Arthur Herman's book, believed he was a Brit before he was thrown off the train in South Africa because that's what well-read Indians do, they lap onto the strongest entity. And, now they have started to associate themselves with the Americans, and in Delhi where I live if you hear people talk, they try to sound like Americans and for example will say Zed for Zee, particularly if they are in their mid 20's, because of globalization and the internet. The amount of self loathing is very sad.
a) I don't like how sure this guy is of everything he says. A genuinely bright, wise thinker is never 'that' sure of himself. He talks like his opinion is 'it' on these matters. For example, the woke thing is not necessarily limited to their history, wokism is not necessarily strictly a white phenomenon even if it essentially is. The western empire actively seeks and tries to manufacture a following around the world and there are always subcultures and thoughts within every such weltanschauung. Humility, questioning oneself, etc...just not the case with this guy, and b) He's a bangladeshi american that spends an extraordinary amount of time following Indian content so there is that relation there. Wonder what he thinks of himself as...originally a Hindu who converted (because he looks like a Dinesh to me)...is there a long lost link and affinity with India that it still feels like home to him coz it does seem there's still a very strong connection...does he somewhere feel like he's becoming a born again Hindu even?...the hindutva reawakens in him as it does all over India? and one thing that I would like to say is that there was a point where he said that Hindus get very uncomfortable when you talk about Muslims or criticizing them...his opinion was that it's because of past traumas...having lived in India all my life and having had these discussions for so many years...my experience has been that people are genuinely inclusive and accepting and genuinely respect other cultures at heart...the hate comes largely as a response to perceived and often genuine bigotry from the other side...even in RSS...it is mostly resentment for past evils...like imagine Jews being told Hitler was a great king that did great good to the Jewish state and it was thanks to him Jews found a nation and then lauded him as the father of Israel etc...it's going to make people angry...also...i dont like like how immature and nascent this guy is in his thinking even though he is knowledgable...his mental age is still of a college sophomore to quite an extent. so in case you're reading Razib...do let me know what you think in a genuinely polite fashion...also...trying to make sense of you...you're a bangladeshi living in America and spend a whole lot of time following Indian politics...works in genetics and not a true blue muslim at heart because of the retaliation mentioned in tweets n stuff....so culturally an Indian and American with ethnic roots in Bangladesh...
22:50 Well, Sanskrit was to the Indian continent what Latin was to Europa - the intellectual link language. Considering Modern India is not an ethnic state like the European ones (it's a civilizational State), it must've adopted Sanskrit as its national language - after simplifying the grammar & expanding the vocabulary - like the Chinese & Israelis did.
While we talk about Bangladesh's economic growth, we don't talk about why Bangladeshis are still crossing over to India and the diminishing population of Hindus. Isn't these related?
It's about opportunity. India is the one which needs to sort out its boundaries and its borders and infiltration. If there was no restriction in going to America you'd see a lot of Indians leaving too.
Bangladesh is doing good because there is a good leader and also good relationship with with India, USA. If jamat and bnp govt come in Bangladesh than you see actual development.
I don't know why but I persistently feel that whatever may be the appearances of current reality, one day Bangladesh, Pakistan and Bharat are going to be united as Akhand Bharat.
Odd that the utube ads were demands to give money to 'Islamic relief'. Just a note. At least they were not 'buy this car'. Otherwise, I understand none of this. None.
Mr. Modi is trying to rule India with the help of only social media, while himself keeping quite even on serious problems like huge death tolls with COViD, Atrocities in Bengal, Drone attack on Air Force etc.
The woke stuff is mainly in 5 countries mainly 5 white Anglo nations. Canada United States, Australia, New Zealand and United Kingdom are all tier one Anglo nations and all share identical academic viewpoint. India is more like a 2nd or 3rd tier Anglo nation. Via imperialism. The woke Anglo can export and subvert 2nd and 3rd tier Anglo nation into woke ideology.
India is not an Anglo nation.
It is just a post-colonial State that has so far failed to regain its sense of cultural initiative (unlike the non-colonized Asian civs like China, Japan, etc.)
Sanskrit was to the Indian continent what Latin was to Europa - the intellectual link language.
Considering the modern Indian State is not an ethnic nation-state like the European ones (it's a civilizational nation-state), it must've adopted Sanskrit as its national language - after simplifying the grammar & expanding the vocabulary - like the Chinese & Israelis did.
Strange, isn't it? Even though post structuralism and post modernism have its root in France, french intelligentsia have hardly ever registered in the woke Rader.
Why didn't you include France in the list when they are the most affected by it?
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Because they are counter balanced then and there
@@denk3236 I don't think so, since they were extremely popular in France. Post structuralist discourse when absorbed or appropriated by the anglophone world turned into an whole different beast.
Razib has a great sense of humor. Your smartest guest yet.
This was a good video learned a lot, Razib articulated his thoughts very well and his analysis on various issues was also good.
Razib is the first happy n funny Bong intel i have encountered till date.
Rest all are sad, cribs; mostly complaining or moralising.
Must be from WB.. Apni to lagi padi hai.. Dekho, I am cribbing too :D
@@Somparna u r funny 😆
Eeeks!
A poor man can only complain 😁
Razib is super honest. It takes immense courage to be honest these days when just about anything can get you cancelled.
Lol .. the old “Im not being an ignorant idiot, its just the people mad at me” 🤡
@@JDVmusicSound what do you mean by that ?
more knowledge more honesty more courage
@@JDVmusicSound you are a karen aren't you?
@@JDVmusicSound yes people like you
Interesting conversation b/n you two. Invite Razib more often
Great listening to Razib from Bangladesh 🇧🇩
I throughly enjoyed listening to this podcast with Razib Khan. Love how clear his thought process is.
Giving Like just for mentioning "Havard School of Journalism" 😂😂
Nidhi Razdan intensifies
Long live Nidhi Razdan
Nidhi Razdan Amar rahen 👍👍❤️❤️😭😭😭
Imagine being on the “side” against Harvard 🤡🤦♂️
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You don't know the context.
Someone liberal got a invitation to teach in Department that do not exist. And she left her job in news channel to join.
Nobody is against Harvard.
@@denk3236 And she started having a tag next to her name, Associate Prof. at Harvard and attended TV talk shows in that capacity.... ! All without visiting her employer even once....And it turned out to be fake!
You caught my attention with that title. Nice!😄
Great points Razib, especially what you mentioned about POC, and as always love your content and questions Abhinav ji. Please keep bringing more interesting people ( who are not political) and ask them questions :)
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Yes - unqualified people weaponizing their identity to make a “point” in an outside field. Such a gullible people like yourself, who have a preconceived bias to listen to a male, would definitely believe such trash. None of this has any substance. Have a nice day :)
evolutionnews.org/2019/05/geneticist-razib-khan-a-darwinist-and-the-alt-right/
@@JDVmusicSound the asinine psychoanalysis is appreciated.
First to comment !! :) Abhinav, Razib and Kushal... always great to listen to you guys and more the merrier .. always learning from you guys. Thank you very much.
Good to hear that there cannot be a woke Ram Mohan Roy .. no woke coconuts !!! One less vector worry.
I've been here first and seeing, there are many comments older than yours
All the crazy Hindutva rich bois ;)
@@JDVmusicSound with all due pride 😉
Commenting only because Razib said he reads the comments😁
Great to hear both of you. Very educative when it comes to different perspectives. Waiting for more similar discussions.
joy shri ram :-)
@@RazibKhan evolutionnews.org/2019/05/geneticist-razib-khan-a-darwinist-and-the-alt-right/
After seeing razib meanwhile yogiji aaj se tumhara nam -rajebaleshwar.
Rajib is bengali version of Rajiv, it doesn't have to be changed :) may be the Khan part to khanna
How is West Bengal more outward (intl.) looking Abhinav ?
It's just a miniscule elite (
Ironically it is....... Economy is almost recovering from the ventilator. Hindutva is like a paper without any economic returns.... And we must keep in mind that India has a diverse population. We cannot let that down. Are there problems with that?? Well yes. But not everything is bad....... We must see into our pages too. I support BJP, but want something new. Yes, calamities will come!!! And they will come without any notice. And we want to see a the skill of the govts to maneuver through turbulence.
That is a massive cope.
That's benefit of socialism
@@mos5139 BJP/NCP are the two sides of the same coin. NCP is Left Wing Elitist and BJP is a Left Wing Nativist. So poverty is here to stay for a long long time....
India needs to concentrate on growing their ecosystem/economy and move away from failed communist and socialism
@@jonathanalvinrays..7070 Nazis were left wing nativist.
Abhinav are you Bangali? Namaskar from this Bangali brother from Bangladesh
Respectfully,
1. Pakistan has significant separatist/nationalist underlying problems, their mini empire / afghan policy can be seen as a diversion and to channel possible separatist energies esp of pathans outward. The same thing with sending out fundies outside, it makes sense for Pakistan. Their political formula for good or ill is based on islam as a state ideology to centralize state authority and exporting fundies helps them get rid of potential problems who can cause trouble inside... and thus fundies becomes a tool of the state to activate as needed. This has been overall a good thing from the perspective of having a strong and healthy state which can override the many cracks and cleavages in Pakistan.
2. Economically Pakistan is aligned with China, with all that entails, and as china sets new milestones Pakistan can ride it's coattails.
3. Geopolitically by cultivating relationship with China even when china was down and out, Pakistan has bet on the right horse. The west is not the future and neither are it's ideological products.
4. On the contrary Pakistan's policy while being aggressive and quasi expansionist is in fact totally logical, their focus is limited, their projects are limited, their ability to play the superpowers against each other and get the best deal is smart. On the contrary Pakistan knows it's limitations and uses what it has seemingly very efficiently, even their defense projects are limited but effective, there's a trend there. At any rate i respectfully disagree with the assessment of Pakistan.
5. On Bangladesh, it's an ethnostate that's the biggest thing going for it. It took a long time to get going, i think partially because Bangladesh is the lesser part of historic Bengal. Compared to West Bengal and adjacent areas to the west in india, Bangladesh not too long ago was a massive fishing hole. For what it's worth unfortunately the better part of Bengal is in India.
Always a pleasure to see Razib on this podcast.
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Razib khan is the most interesting gem on the internet i found during this pandemic...
Very interesting perspective. I loved his interview and the previous session yoi did with him too
Thnx
Rajib ji.. Nobody is "crying" about what the mughals did here, we are only exposing them more n more, cos first of all most of true history was hidden n secondly Islamists take pride n inspiration from the mughal atrocities to attack their own Hindu "brethrens". .. I hope m clear n others would agree, plz correct me if m wrong!
It never amazes me how crazy and paranoid a Hindu Nationalist can be. Sad To see such young minds wasted on mythology.
@@JDVmusicSound Please show some compassion. If you looked back at your history and all you saw was a 1000 year period where every Tom, Dick and Harry from Central and West Asia invaded and conquered at will, whilst your own ancestors stood by and watched, you too would become a victim of inferiority complex and start resorting to compensatory behaviours (e.g. going around announcing how great you are; dissing the people who make you feel inferior etc), in an attempt to salvage your own self-esteem.. What Hindu Nationalists need is psychotherapy for low self-esteem and inferiority complex, not ridicule.
I definitely agree u...young minds of india do not know the history of real Indian Leaders and their policies. Instead they know about mughals so called 'greatness' which lead to massacre of more than 80 million indians!
Razib K always has sharp insights. I enjoy listening to him.
I am of course saying this because RK reads youtube comments. : )
In next podcast ask razib , why so many indian still feel inferior when it come to amercia ?
In a sense, when we look at America, we see huge amounts of prosperity composed to us, we feel very inferior.
America is the modern day bharat (economic and military wise), that's why
@@Ashish-ss5nt actually west has been far ahead of india and china for 38000 years out of 40000 years.
(Source- why the west rules)
Abhijit Iyer Mitra told this
@@Nimish204 yup, we need huge economic growth
@@saketpatil1306 it's the opposite way around. The West got it's time under the Sun only since the discovery of the Americas.
Great video and let's hope the superficial wokeness goes away as soon as possible.
It won’t, because what you strawman as “superficial wokeNess “, is what the normal world calls “basic racial consciousness, and humanity”. Aint a “western” thing lol. Respecting people, and watching your words as a universal value, alas ... Hindutvwadis do this justified hatred thing that Ill never understand
*Hey Razib,*
*Say-Jai Shri Ram-the next time and every time just like you said in Kushal's podcast. Thank you for talking so honestly and bringing new and unbiased points to the table.*
Lol
Razib is a gem.
Great talk as usual Abhinav and Razib(you are great on CH as well). @Abhinav : could you host a talk on why the awakening of sense of history and finding their place in the world is seemingly happening now in Indians. Secondly how Indians can become more confident to not become colonized by western intellectualism. Indians are doing this now a little and need to more in terms of asserting their ideals.
Razib gives a different outlook to specific topics. It's great listening to him.
This is so funny. Gotta love Razib 😎
We Hindus should work hard to become economic and military superpower rather than living in the past absolutely agree with Rajib
So true
31:45 pak does not even have an oppurtunity to fail. Thats a statement that can only come from a mind that knows its subject. Quite deep.
When you have to always compare your “secular democracy “, to an Islamic government, which says it right in the constitution, you know you have lost the debate. Imagine an American comparing themselves to Mexico and trying to act like it is a “point “, and not racism. It amazes me how much basic knowledge and rhetorical skill the average Hindutvwadi like yourself lacks .... Which is why you get attracted to random nobody is like razib. Because train, academic people (in the field) do not exist that possess such of use. That’s the point. Good luck!
@@JDVmusicSound just curious, what you prefer living in. A secular democracy or in an Islamic rule? The US or Pakistan purely based on governance and rights?
Razib is clear, logical and to the point. Very refreshing to watch. Abhinav puts people at ease with his demeanor and gets more information. Good job guys.
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Interesting perspective by razib Khan on wokism and implications of its adoption in non US setting. Please invite Madhukishwar ji.
I love listening to Rajib, very clear in his thought.
I was always thinking the same. actually being woke as an Indian is understanding we are the oppressed indigenous people.
However as Razib Rightly said the people who is giving the seal of approval of wokism will not care abut any facts. its all about the narrow minded narrative from an average American experience.
oppressed maybe, but times have changed and we must better ourselves without resorting to victim hood that woke people resort to
Oppression politics is Slave Morality, India needs master morality. Like Razib pointed out, why won't you guys talk about Shivaji, why keep crying about Mughals? We Tamils talk about our Imperial Legacy all the damn time and that's why we have such a strong National presence in the Media&Culture compared to other South Indian States. We just stand out as "Different" by virtue of being assertive.
@@விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக் true that. Here in Karnataka we talk more about tipu sultan more that Krishnadeva Raya without recognising the atrocities committed by tipu sultan. It's sad really. Luckily now things are changing and people talk more about Krishnadeva Raya
This guy is profound.!
Very interesting view Razib, please continue to be objective. In India, our common gripe of Muslims, is that we cannot have an open discussion or a discussion with logic. A Hindu will easily consider a view point that he or she is wrong (if you see Church planted Indologists, this was done on a massive scale over a period of time) and feel shame whereas a Muslim will never consider an opposing view point. Hinduism is all about objectivity and merits, I enjoy hearing your informed view points. Sometimes I feel all of India’s Hindus are like the frog in a well who see only the sky the well permits and thinks its the universe. I wish more Hindus read vs view videos or graduate from WhatsApp university.
Rubbish
25:29 I didn't expect breakup advice from Razib in the middle of this podcast
Razib sir's accent do gives us the delight of wannabe wokes in India.(*_*)
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Thank you Anubhav for introducing Razib to viewers. I love his wit, wisdom and knowledge. I think i'm now cementing my thoughts on why west hate Hindus. Then i connect it with what Modi is doing regarding Kashi, Ayodhya and economy of $5/10 trillion and i kinda get the point on what needs to be done on sitting at the high table with west
You lot will truly believe anything lol. I don’t know a single person who “hates Hindus quote, and ironic that all of this paranoia of yours only popped up when the guy who is supposed to “rescue”, got elected seven years ago. Your entire ideology is based on a fallacy. Have a good day!
Fantastic analysis!
The Hindi problem I 100% agree. In Kerala, Karnataka, TN etc Hindi was never used anywhere, ever. Not part of any of our culture ever. on the other hand Sanskrit was the language of academia and intelligentsia. Sanskrit Yes, Hindi NO!.
You ppl have such a chip on your shoulders.
Except some lunatic fringe and ignorant social media comments, who even asks you to learn Hindi?
And in the past, whatever little "imposition" of Hindi happened, was done by the Congress because Gandhi was a big fan of the idea of one language for the nation. Savarkar too but this is one thing he was wrong about.
So? There was a point no one in North spoke Hindi. But see, people of Punjab, Kashmir and North East have no issues with speaking Hindi. Meanwhile in West Bengal and south, you people will start getting mad at Hindi and see it as inferior language or culture destroying language, if so, why you accepted English as your language is which way worse than Hindi? Just because it is international language doesn't mean it's better. People of South have double standards.
@@simulify8726 Sanskrit is any day superior to persianized Hindi. 100% Indian languages like Tamil, Bengali, kannada, malayalam are superior to the persianised compromise called Hindi. Language determines your thought process, a language corrupted by arabic and Persian culture will never help Dharmic revival, I will even dare say congress made it official language of India for that one reason.
@@simulify8726 FYI English is an Indo European language, so it is a descendant of Sanskrit, just like Hindi is with out the arab cultural pollution. But my point remains Lets go for original the greatest of all languages humans discovered Sanskrit.
@@Captain_Sosuke_Aizen But why do people like you always try to sidestep this question, where is this "imposition" that you talk of?
And if no one is imposing it then what excuse do you have for always suo moto railing against Hindi and its speakers? Bigoted much?
BTW... if one also counts ppl who speak it as a second tongue then the number is in many many 10's of Crores... Its already the Lingua Franca across North India and even places like UAE where Indians go to work...
So it has many takers on its own...
One of the crucial point, they think by criticising India they will get work in abroad and good money.
See example of Kunal Kamra got to work for NYT
This could so easily be countered by building good institutions in India
But our governments failed since independence
Now Modi govt is building a lot of IITs and AIIMs
But it should focus on revamping education and social science institutes too, as they control the narrative
I noticed Hindu nationalist always think that there is some type of money to be made by dealing with India. They do this with Twitter as well.How delusional
@@JDVmusicSound please mind your business
Now that Razib mentioned in his last podcast, Abhinav's cheek do look like Rasagulla! I heard the podcast with "Tony", my god was that hard to listen to, I would love to get hear an articulate anti BJP person point out the policies government implemented to qualify BJP being facist coz I haven't heard any. BTW try to get Alexei Arora or something like him an expat from a non US or non anglo country.
Which podcast are you mentioning??
Nd why it was hard to listen to..
@@Austenite762 Because these crazies can’t handle the truth, which is why they have to live their entire life in mythology and hating minorities. Everybody knows that Hindu nationalism is fascism lol
No one talks of downfalls of civilizational state
These people dont focus on real issues. Only elitist strawman and alt right dogwhistles. Useless humans
@@JDVmusicSound and yet you are here listening to useless humans. Am sure you have better things to do.
Simply superb
22:20 the reactive focus and lack of positive vision is seen in other ways as well. E.g. whenever BJP shortcomings or misrule happen, instead of trying to improve the BJP, the reaction of the right is always to point to how much worse Congress is.
He is so logical and funny as well
We love razib.
Woke hierarchy was very insightful!! Also its value for a particular class of Americans ... good analysis! 👌
Rajib must be reading about Jati/ Varna.... but what meaning is he making out of it?? You need to read Rajiv Malhotra on the caste system and the value it provided to Indian society.
Todays US/Europe has a varna system. Why should it be so difficult to understand?
Also Rajib, please challenge yourself on this endogamy theory. Make a flowchart to identify weak links in your theory... i wish I had time to read a completely new area ... 🙁
Very honest intellectual
Based Razib! 15:20
Good Conversation
Jai hind bro
Razib and herald baldr looks indistinguishable when they smile
Hey Razib! A question out of interest: what motivated you to post a picture on twitter, as you mention in this video, of a pig with a quran in its mouth in the first place? I mean, it would be such a provocative and offensive act towards any religious community - replacing the quran with the bhagavad geeta, guru granth sahib, or the torah etc would be received in no different light - that I feel puzzled about what may have motivated you. Especially given your grip on social and cultural issues sensitives, as it appears to be, one would normally expect a more empathetic approach? Curious to know; would be lovely if you responded. Thanks, and keep up your interesting works!
Yes.. Exactly.. We are spreading Jagriti and getting Jagrit... got it?
Razib aint a historian or something but his points are always logical and straight to point. Abhinav prakash's guests are always highly intelligent people.
Thnx
This is who he is:
evolutionnews.org/2019/05/geneticist-razib-khan-a-darwinist-and-the-alt-right/
@@JDVmusicSound Lol yea ofc ...he is 'aLT-Right!..he is the bad guy!'
Nowadays, if the left cant oppose logic of anyone they disagree with and cant classify him/her as traditionalist than they classify him/her as alt-right. So, you can keep that article with yourself and tell if any particular point he mention ed in the video is wrong.
@@yami6499 LOL I swear to God this guy has replied to every single comment of this video , like I get trolling but this is a whole new level
what a man❤❤❤
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Pakistan controls Eurasian landmass grip - Geostrategic Location
Not control, but broker
For once I agree
I hate these trans generational trauma thing, I mean after 600 years of successful resistance and we are for god's sake world's 3rd largest religion.
21:07 Ppl have started making fun of slam and tbh had always made fun of slim
It's obvsly not done on thr face cuz it's impolite and illegal (blasphemy is illegal by the law in India)
School of journalism in Harvard.... 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Razib should be made an honorary Hindutva nationalist.
Lol
@@JDVmusicSound You are even here! You just can't seem to stop obsessing with us.
The most important thing he said was to become rich and powerful. Unfortunately, the west won’t allow this. They’ve made the rules of the game and they’re happy so long as you follow them (and know your place).
If you attempt to create a parallel power structure. Expect a challenge and be prepared to defend it. But this alternative needs to be defined and be consistent.
Personally, I think the subcontinent (India and Pakistan specifically) cannot be successful until they overhaul their justice system and make the locals believe that they can get justice. Everything follows from that. Also, politicians need to realise that are they playing T-20 (short term), one days (medium term) or test matches (long term).
If you want to be successful, you need to focus on being successful in the long term whilst protecting the short term and medium term.
So sometimes, politicians need to play the gentleman’s game, accept losses graciously and agree to fight another day.
If they are constantly just focused on the short term, you’ll never get out the rut.
If you give the opposition the chance to believe they have a chance at power, they are less willing to play dirty and start playing it as a zero sun game.
Obsession with history is also because of supression, distortion of history and lack of ackwnedgement.
we all look for own humanity
and it coincides with going back as the less civilised we were the more natural humans we were
Razib Khan is the Hindu intellectual we never had....
Hey Razib if you're reading the comments what are your thoughts on "Mulla Modi!"?
I think he is more of an acquired taste, he is right though that Hindu nationalists are reactive still and rather focus on our future story.
Omg...this guy is too funny!!!
@@usc4405 what?
IT minister ka account block kar diya tha twitter ne lagta hai abhinav ka agla video is topic par hoga,
Sach bol ne gand mein dum chahiye. Hats off to Razib!!!
Hi Razib, hope that you are reading comments, does your name come from the word Rajiv or do the two have the same origin? Do you know? :)
Razib has a very white pill vibe to him... bordering on red but still white
Hinduism isn't predicated on Varana intertwined Jatti that's not required VARANA IS BASED ON EDUCATION AND THE QUALITIES OF THE INDIVIDUAL IF YOUR FATHER IS A DOCTOR DOESNT MAKE YOU A DOCTOR
Rajib must be reading about Jati/ Varna.... but what meaning is he making out of it?? Rajib needs to read Rajiv Malhotra on this.
I have been saying what Razib said, but differently, the progressive Indian community have always associated itself with the modern powerful global entity, for example - Gandhi, who according to the Arthur Herman's book, believed he was a Brit before he was thrown off the train in South Africa because that's what well-read Indians do, they lap onto the strongest entity.
And, now they have started to associate themselves with the Americans, and in Delhi where I live if you hear people talk, they try to sound like Americans and for example will say Zed for Zee, particularly if they are in their mid 20's, because of globalization and the internet.
The amount of self loathing is very sad.
"Be proud of what you did to them."
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Razib Khan
Lmao
Is that self flagellating brown Hindu Masterji (Proffessor hic) from Brown University Sri Varshney?
a) I don't like how sure this guy is of everything he says. A genuinely bright, wise thinker is never 'that' sure of himself. He talks like his opinion is 'it' on these matters. For example, the woke thing is not necessarily limited to their history, wokism is not necessarily strictly a white phenomenon even if it essentially is. The western empire actively seeks and tries to manufacture a following around the world and there are always subcultures and thoughts within every such weltanschauung. Humility, questioning oneself, etc...just not the case with this guy, and b) He's a bangladeshi american that spends an extraordinary amount of time following Indian content so there is that relation there. Wonder what he thinks of himself as...originally a Hindu who converted (because he looks like a Dinesh to me)...is there a long lost link and affinity with India that it still feels like home to him coz it does seem there's still a very strong connection...does he somewhere feel like he's becoming a born again Hindu even?...the hindutva reawakens in him as it does all over India? and one thing that I would like to say is that there was a point where he said that Hindus get very uncomfortable when you talk about Muslims or criticizing them...his opinion was that it's because of past traumas...having lived in India all my life and having had these discussions for so many years...my experience has been that people are genuinely inclusive and accepting and genuinely respect other cultures at heart...the hate comes largely as a response to perceived and often genuine bigotry from the other side...even in RSS...it is mostly resentment for past evils...like imagine Jews being told Hitler was a great king that did great good to the Jewish state and it was thanks to him Jews found a nation and then lauded him as the father of Israel etc...it's going to make people angry...also...i dont like like how immature and nascent this guy is in his thinking even though he is knowledgable...his mental age is still of a college sophomore to quite an extent. so in case you're reading Razib...do let me know what you think in a genuinely polite fashion...also...trying to make sense of you...you're a bangladeshi living in America and spend a whole lot of time following Indian politics...works in genetics and not a true blue muslim at heart because of the retaliation mentioned in tweets n stuff....so culturally an Indian and American with ethnic roots in Bangladesh...
Razib any dna studies related to mahabharat ?
22:50 Well, Sanskrit was to the Indian continent what Latin was to Europa - the intellectual link language.
Considering Modern India is not an ethnic state like the European ones (it's a civilizational State), it must've adopted Sanskrit as its national language - after simplifying the grammar & expanding the vocabulary - like the Chinese & Israelis did.
Lmao
While we talk about Bangladesh's economic growth, we don't talk about why Bangladeshis are still crossing over to India and the diminishing population of Hindus. Isn't these related?
It's about opportunity. India is the one which needs to sort out its boundaries and its borders and infiltration. If there was no restriction in going to America you'd see a lot of Indians leaving too.
@@gufestus4106 but then that means people move to better opportunities. This implies that India has better economy than Bangladesh.
@@tanujshrivastava405 I mean it does. Even he said that the per capita gdp jump is only temporary.
Religious intolerence,extremism Nd attack on Hindus Nd inequality is on rise in Bangladesh.
Bangladesh is doing good because there is a good leader and also good relationship with with India, USA. If jamat and bnp govt come in Bangladesh than you see actual development.
plainnn truthhhhhhhhhhhhh
I don't know why but I persistently feel that whatever may be the appearances of current reality, one day Bangladesh, Pakistan and Bharat are going to be united as Akhand Bharat.
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'Cash'- mir lmfao
To me, it appears that he talks their language
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Odd that the utube ads were demands to give money to 'Islamic relief'. Just a note. At least they were not 'buy this car'.
Otherwise, I understand none of this. None.
But Um.... Is Razib Khan, Robin Scherbatsky?
HAHAHA
she's hawt at least
pure Bharotia is Hinduthava.
Why South Indians consider Urdu or Bollywood language as Hindi language
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Mr. Modi is trying to rule India with the help of only social media, while himself keeping quite even on serious problems like huge death tolls with COViD, Atrocities in Bengal, Drone attack on Air Force etc.
Am I the only one who thinks that both these two characters don't know what they're talking about and I just go on and on and on ?
Welcome to Hindutva lol
evolutionnews.org/2019/05/geneticist-razib-khan-a-darwinist-and-the-alt-right/
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So it’s like it’s never good enough?