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Art School Portfolio Mistakes You Need to Avoid!
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2020
- Find out the mistakes you can avoid when preparing an art portfolio for art school. Types of artwork such as fan art, anime, celebrity portraits are generally not what admissions officers at art school art looking for, in addition to cliche images, centered compositions, and blank backgrounds. Discussion led by Art Prof Clara Lieu and Teaching Artists Lauryn Welch and Jordan McCracken-Foster.
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I love how the first point is "DON'T DO FANART" meanwhile in my country I know three people who got into art college with portfolios SOLELY made out of fanart....
Omg that's kind of awesome! Haha - Mia Rozear, Art Prof Staff
Okay, tell me how cuz I really wanna see their art
I think there's a lot of misunderstanding about fan art. I always treat fan art seriously. Fan art is not just about blindly copying an existing character with a white background. A lot of good fan art these days have artist's own expression in it. We can get inspired by things happening in our own lives but also by works already existing (that might be animations, movies, books, celebrity's personal stories, etc). I often feel so attached to that one particular character, and I am galvanized to make an entire series (comics or graphic novel or illustrations) which has my expression in it. Sometimes it's more like a side story of the original work, but sometimes it's really my own creation. You can hardly tell it's fan art if I don't mention it cuz I borrow the characters from my own perspective. Will that being considered as a NO in art portfolio? That would hurt me a lot. Looking forward to your reply. Thanks!
I think you're totally right, there are absolutely ways to turn fanart into an inspired original work. I read lots of doujinshi for instance, and technically many works in art history are tributes to previous artworks that the artist has been inspired by. What we are referring to in this video here is more of the direct copy fanart. -Lauryn, Art Prof Teaching Artist
It shouldnt be considered a no nó. It has ever been the case that art students would copy Monet michealangelo Manet etc and thats somehow fine. Music students play Mozart etc. Now a modern music student is allowed to play game of thrones music or modern jaxz...what youre doing is the same thing with more modern art. I have seen an art college show with two installations of blank canvasses. So always remember the art world is full of shit. And what you do should always as an artist be more important than what any establishment tells you you should be doing. The essence to me of an artist is someone who represents true self expression. If you want to just draw sqaures and nothing else ever ever ever then thats you as an artist and it does not matter what art college thinks of your art. What matters most is what you are expressing and that you're not doing it to just please others or fit a format laid out for you. When I was a kid those kids who Drew perfect tracings of my little poney were given a lot of credit. I Drew purely from my imagination horses in movement and ballerinas and It was messy and expressive and damn good cos I wasnt copying or using a picture ever...but I never got much praise for it except from my family ...I used to draw chareictures of political leaders too. Lol. Just very quick scribbles...I've always liked the sórt of two lines and a dot and it turns into something if youre in a flow. And only when I went to college did I ever learn that you could copy a picture. Lol!
I think photo references should be used in the persons art studies or practice than include in their portfolio. Honestly using photos along with drawing from life are the best ways to study art. Because they train your eye to observe than seeing what you draw. I’ve been to museums before and I’ve done observations before using my senses, and it has been helpful to me.
When you ask family and non-artist friends (because many of my friends are artists and give excellent critiques) One of two things tend to happen; either they say it’s great while being very unspecific or they say it’s terrible this is bad you should give up while being equally on specific. Both of these things are equally and helpful to development as an artist and can waylay your artistic gro
So true, families aren't the most reliable sources when it comes to critique-- it's always better to go to someone well versed in the art world - Mia Rozear, Art Prof Staff
My photo references are usually crap and to be honest I don't really use them other than to check on stuff like perspective. But after my initial sketch is drawn it's my job to finish the drawing. I decide where the light comes from, how to show the volume of the items, I may even change the colour of things in my drawing to better fit with the rest.
Thank you so much for watching! Getting good reference photos can be really challenging-- here's a video that might help ua-cam.com/video/LrPr7FobiKs/v-deo.html feel free to check it out! - Mia Rozear, Art Prof Staff
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finally more or less direct instructions on art portfolio!!! Thank you, you've saved me some time
Glad it was helpful!! Good luck :D - Mia, Art Prof Staff
this stream is very helpful as i am preparing my portfolio i will follow your advice. thank you so much maam for your guied
Most welcome! Good luck with your portfolio :) - Mia Rozear, Art Prof Staff
A lot of art works have simple backgrounds, or no background, because the artist is putting emphasis on something. A background that is complex messes with the composition. Negative space is good!
I'm a huge fan of negative space, haha! Totally agreed - Mia Rozear, Art Prof Staff
Thank you so much for this content! Its so helpful♥️
You're so welcome! -Prof Lieu
What my grandma does is sending pictures of my Artworks to friends of her that work in the Artfield to gather feedback. (I haven't even thought of pursuing art yet, she is just so sure that i should that she gathers opinions from different artists, collectors and profs to boost me up)
Learned Much 💕
I take my paper to office depot and have it scanned, they always look very clear.
Great tip! - Mia Rozear, Art Prof Staff
Is it a good thing to put different artstyles in my portfolio, or do the admissioners prefer seeing a portfolio with the same artstyle?
I think it really depends on the school you're applying to, but I think variety is always encouraged!! - Mia Rozear, Art Prof Staff
Im going to college next year here in ph and im super grateful for this
That's amazing!! Good luck with school, we're happy to help :) - Mia Rozear, Art Prof Staff
Hanging drawings on the wall: Use those office binder clips to hold photos (or unframed paper art), then use push pins to hang the wire thingies that you pinch to open the binder clips! No damage to the paper at all!
So smart, thank you! -Lauryn, Art Prof Teaching Artist
I'm afraid of backgrounds distracting from my piece when I'm doing a small ink piece...
This was one of your best lives ever!!!
We're so happy you think so! - Mia, Art Prof Staff
I'm currently working on my portfolio and this video was very helpful! I was just wondering if there is a general attitude or feeling about including self portraits...should I avoid this or just avoid the "I'm so moody" cliche?
You can certainly include self-portraits, altho that said, there are definitely tons of self-portrait cliches. This video, How Artists Can Identify & Avoid Art Clichés, might help you: ua-cam.com/video/id5mh4tdEkM/v-deo.html -Prof Lieu
This is a bit of a stupid question but I can’t seem to find a good answer anywhere. The place where I’m considering applying wants mostly originals. With drawings that’s fine, but I also have a few canvas paintings I’d like to add. Now should I take them off of the canvas and put them in a turn page book kind of style portfolio (which I’d prefer) or take them off and put them in a stack of drawings/paintings folder OR do I leave them on the canvases and give them a huge clunky package? I hope this makes sense, I’m not a native English speaker haha!
I love that someone is playing among us in the background
Someone really is? 😅😂
The snapchat filters. I cracked up. 😂
Haha, so did I - Mia Rozear, Art Prof Staff
This brings a good question . I had a friend who is going to attempt to get into an art school, although she really doesn’t do well with life drawing. So basically what she did is traced over some photographs she took and made it look like they were the actual thing. As in, she made them look like they were actually decent life drawings (and mind you , it’s quite convincing. ) how do you guys tell apart the traced from the legitimate or is it really impossible to tell ?
Also , is it possible to get into a prestigious school (more so in an illustration course ) on an all digital portfolio (assuming that all the digital work in on par )
Depends on the situation, but obviously some people do get away with it. I will say though that at art schools I have taught at, students were found out for faking portfolios because they simply were not able to keep up with the classes, so I think ultimately you do ending up "making your own bed." In general for BFA programs they don't want an all digital portfolio, they want variety ion both subject and media. -Prof Lieu
These are rly helpful videos but don't watch them while panicking about not being good enough for uni or your portfolio. 👍👍
Haha-- that's the mistake I made! - Mia, Art Prof Staff
Hi, thanks for very useful answers!
I have a question: if I want to apply for animation and illustration in the same university then should I send my application form and portfolio twice?
Just one application! You can include both in your portfolio. -Prof Lieu
Art Prof: Create & Critique thank you!
About anime... There are many original artworks in anime style. As someone who draws in that style and doesn't like to draw realistic humans, will it hamper my chances if I apply with anime, a lot of backgrounds and other perspective studies and all that in my portfolio? Not fanart again, original artworks in the style.
It's more that schools would like to see that you can demonstrate a knowledge of anatomy, light and shadow, and observation. It's best to include some pieces like that, in addition to some of your more anime stylized images. -Lauryn, Art Prof Teaching Artist
Funny thing is, ive watched a bunch of your videos and if i would listen to the advice, there is literally like 1-2 works left that i should include lmao.
The last swirly one, if they painted it in oil and added their own artistic pizzazz, would that be acceptable 👁👁? I saw that and wanted to paint it just 4 fun but I am now curious
Hard to say, you can't really critique artwork until you actually see it! -Prof Lieu
What are your thought on including master studies in art portfolios?
I think art schools prioritize original work over master studies, IMO! Even if the technique is fantastic, your conceptually unique work will prove to be more valuable in the eyes of a BFA portfolio team. - Mia, Art Prof Staff
By anime, you do mean just mean fan art correct? My art style is anime-inspired but I hardly do fan art and the characters are my own. Will it still be look down upon?
Great question! Anime inspired work can be included in a portfolio, but you should definitely aim to include other genres of work as well. That way, schools will be able to see your range as an artist :) We have a video that might help, it's about portfolio tips and secrets: ua-cam.com/video/BgMLNc7YTW0/v-deo.html - Mia Rozear, Art Prof Staff
@@artprof Okay thank you. I just wanted to make sure it wasn’t just a dislike of the style as a whole. Definitely plan on as much variety as possible.
Hi, I love your videos since it's constructive, so I hope I can have an answer to this. I'm currently starting to draw new pieces for my college portfolio. Can I draw a girl portrait from a photo on Pinterest, since it captures the mood, the concept and the composition that I like, but should I try changing the color for a bit, or I can do a master copy of that photograph? And also is it a bad idea to draw from a cinematic frame/scene from movies, or I can have a reference from that without plagiarism?
Hi there!! We recommend putting your own spin on any direct references to avoid plagiarism and show your own unique artistic eye! We actually have a longer video about it here, feel free to check it out if you'd like: artprof.org/pro-development/copyright/how-do-you-recognize-plagiarism/ Good luck with your portfolio, we're here to help along the way! - Mia, Art Prof Staff
thank u so much!@@artprof
I'm not super into drawing incredibly realistic, however my style is relatively realistic. I understand that there must be realism, since it shows technical skill, but is it feasible to have a healthy balance of art in my style, and art that displays technical skill?
Of course! Ideally an art school portfolio, especially at the BFA level, shows a bit of both. -Lauryn, Art Prof Teaching Artist
Absolutely! I love thinking about it like this: know enough about realism & technical skills so that you have the knowledge, and then you can feel free to break the rules intentionally :) - Mia Rozear, Art Prof Staff
That makes sense, I'll make sure to familiarize myself with the concepts. Thank you!
do book cover redesigns count as fanart in portfolios?
I don't think so, if you are providing your own interpretation of what the character is like, and the design of that character isn't pre determined. -Prof Lieu
What if someone is making art just for the purpose of eye pleasing and escaping the reality ? I don’t think my art has a ‘voice’ since they are just still images. Later on the meaning can be interpreted by the viewer and be written down. Do artists normally paint an image first and write the statement after , or it’s the other way around ?
I think it's entirely based on the artist! I'm rather like you-- I enjoy losing myself in the process of making an image, and then I pull meaning from it later. Others will plan meticulously for their piece to fit a certain theme. It's always good to practice talking about your artwork, how it feels to create it, what it means to you-- it'll make writing about it easier, too! - Mia, Art Prof Staff
I never got that why you shouldn't draw a celebrity or someone you like because I don't really see that much of difference of drawing your friend or family member especially if it's within video like I remember I studied a clip of am actor (don't remember who) to practice my facial expressions because it was a very emotional moment.
I think drawing from life is the key-- capturing a scene right in front of you is so much more powerful than pulling from a photo (in my opinion!). But there's nothing wrong with studying scenes for practice! - Mia, Art Prof Staff
so are the free youtube live portfolio crits only available up till march?
We accept them on a rolling basis! artprof.org/youtube-live-art-school-portfolio-critique-submission-form/ -Prof Lieu
@@artprof great! thank you for providing such great resources, art prof has helped me so much!
How can I send you some pictures of my work just to see if it can be called art work? My pictures are on my cell phone.
Here is where you can submit your work for critique:
artprof.org/community/free-critiques/
-Lauryn, Art Prof Teaching Artist
Can I include digital art and illustrations in my portfolio?
It depends on where you're applying to, but yes, those are generally accepted! -Lauryn, Art Prof Teaching Artist
Can i submit old artwork? (4 years ago)
You can, but imo that's not a great idea as you want to present your best work, and for most people, what they were doing 4 years probably isn't their best work, assuming that you have been continuing to do your art. (which you should for an art school portfolio) -Prof Lieu
But anime isn’t just fan art the same way people draw their own cartoon characters it’s the same for anime so why is it so we can’t draw original characters in an anime style
I think the main goal is to go for a variety of work in a portfolio! If you created a fully fledged piece inspired by anime-style work, you can probably include it if you have other pieces that show more range :) - Mia Rozear, Art Prof Staff
@@artprof thanks this is helpful to know
A bit late but, is nudity acceptable in an art school portfolio (in a non life study piece)?
Yup! -Prof Lieu
Lol Benedict IS unique and distracting. Who else can be so chiseled and attractive?
Clara has a whole collection of chiseled and attractive men that she references. 😂 -Lauryn, Art Prof Teaching Artist
I see ur still replying to the comemnts :))) I saw this one image of an architecture students portfolio and they got accepted with a piece in which they redrew audrey Hepburn and made a collage behind it depicting her life... one of my pieces are similar to it, with a poet I admire. Does this count as fanart? Maybe it's different from an art portfolio since it's for architecture school?
Hmm that's a good question! I think collages and things like that might fall into a sort of gray area, where the artist picks and chooses different culture references/images to appropriate in their work. I think it really depends on the specific piece! - Mia, Art Prof Staff
Lol @ 7:35
It's pronounced "whatever"😅
Like how ghoti is pronounced "fish"
Hahaha, thanks for watching! - Mia Rozear, Art Prof Staff
@@artprof of course! Love the channel.
Can you include drawings with sexual themes? Not depicting sex, but having suggestiveness? I come from a conservative family and I want to have one of my personal pieces be about navigating shame of sex and sexuality, and my idea includes drawing a sex toy. Lol.
Ah! We used to have a great critique of a painting about navigating sexuality in a conservative family by an artist applying for an MFA, but I can't for the life of me find it! In short, yes, it's okay, you just want to do your research and prep work beforehand! Here's our personal narratives track that might help in developing those skills:
artprof.org/learn/tracks/personal-narratives-track/
Good luck! -Lauryn, Art Prof Teaching Artist
I respect her love for benedict cumberbatch
I feel so seen!!😂-Prof Lieu
i think jordan is playing among us
My sis got a job with Disney doing fan art 🤷
Keep in mind this video is specific to art school admissions, and that applying to a job is a totally different situation. So advice for this video may not apply in other contexts. -Prof Lieu
@@artprof 👍🏻👍🏻