Emancipation from Mental Slavery | Dr. Cheryl Tawede Grills | TEDxCulverCity

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  • @cperterpan6860
    @cperterpan6860 6 років тому +206

    They will accuse us of having the victims mentality, but we know what we experience each day.

    • @omarfletcher5679
      @omarfletcher5679 6 років тому +17

      c Amour Exactly! One can only speak from life experiences.

  • @marcusee1234nation
    @marcusee1234nation 7 років тому +125

    I think the words of Marcus Garvey, apply here.
    Marcus Garvey gave in Menelik Hall in Sydney, Nova Scotia in October 1937:
    “We are going to emancipate ourselves from mental slavery because whilst others might free the body, none but ourselves can free the mind. Mind is your only ruler, sovereign. The man who is not able to develop and use his mind is bound to be the slave of the other man who uses his mind, because man is related to man under all circumstances for good or ill.”

    • @Outta12
      @Outta12 7 років тому +9

      Marcus Fidel Damn! Good quote Marcus. Thanks for putting us down wit that one.

    • @newlegends2523
      @newlegends2523 6 років тому +5

      Marcus Fidel Powerful words!

    • @8antonia8asmr
      @8antonia8asmr 4 роки тому +3

      🤯🤯🤯

    • @jamaalali4536
      @jamaalali4536 4 роки тому +4

      You showing out bro ! I c ya mind!

  • @phoenix2011ist
    @phoenix2011ist 6 років тому +183

    Exactly why I'm studying to become a psychologist. 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

    • @Whataboutthesenuts
      @Whataboutthesenuts 6 років тому +9

      Denzel Phoenix- I wish you much success on your journey.

    • @1love847
      @1love847 6 років тому +11

      And why i am studying the law!

    • @secondopinion53
      @secondopinion53 5 років тому +3

      This is very informative! My major was Psychology

    • @Ripprock1
      @Ripprock1 5 років тому

      JAZZ J hopefully to find what it actually is.

    • @yellooh
      @yellooh 5 років тому +3

      Study philosophy too

  • @AbeLateiner
    @AbeLateiner 7 років тому +93

    What a convincing and compelling case for the fight for collective liberation. What a gift to the world.

    • @mirriamsofe2218
      @mirriamsofe2218 3 роки тому +1

      Fully agree Sir, a great gift only if we can collectively seize the opportunity and run with it,the clock is ticking!!! Lie's are detrimental, even today 74 million Americans believe that the elections were fraudulent and despite 6thJan attack on the Capitol the lies are growing bigger and what is simmering in that horrific pot,is no one's guesses if it we're to be everyone guesses then we must have been in such an experience before but never,ever in the American history has suchlike practices happen. 2 300 soldiers are daily protecting America from Americans!!! So sad!
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  • @HannahYaawusuahAdjepongL-AS
    @HannahYaawusuahAdjepongL-AS 6 років тому +98

    Until we know and appreciate who we are, we will forever be fighting those lies . Is it not a miracle that we live and love and laugh under this yoke of misinformed minds of other people. We can change the world by changing how we think about ourselves.

    • @missshannon9790
      @missshannon9790 5 років тому +1

      "We can frighten them to death just with impeccable behavior." -dr. Frances Cress Welsing.

    • @ajilasmith7563
      @ajilasmith7563 5 років тому +4

      EXACTLY,AND WE MUST ACCEPT OUR OWN,AND BE OUR TRUE SELVES,AND FORGET THE HATERS AND NAYSAYERS,SO WE MUST LOVE OURSELVES AND EACH OTHER FIRST AND FOREMOST.(WITH PEACE TO ALL THE GODS AND GODDESSES,AND KINGS AND QUEENS).I HOPE YOU ALL KNOW HOW POWERFUL YOU ARE.💝💝😍😍.

    • @kritikajeffrine5274
      @kritikajeffrine5274 4 роки тому +1

      Tht is so true

  • @adisaakintola
    @adisaakintola 7 років тому +122

    An excellent talk by Dr Tawede Grills, that I can easily relate to. Not because I've heard this topic discussed on BBC or Sky News or read it in the Guardian or Daily Telegraph, but because she is describing the life I live in the UK, as do my siblings, children, parents, cousins, aunties and uncles. This is life for all Africans within the diaspora and on the continent. It will be particularly difficult for Europeans to fully comprehend this.
    Of course in order to function within European societies some of us have sought to assimilate in order to try and live an ordinary life. This talk helps to remind them that, in spite of their strenuous efforts to be accepted as an equal, it is extremely unlikely we will be seen as equals until we enlighten the world about the BIG LIE constantly perpetuated about us as a people.

    • @emmanuelbriggs5182
      @emmanuelbriggs5182 6 років тому +5

      Well spoken brother

    • @Tefera-hf8fw
      @Tefera-hf8fw 5 років тому

      Totally agree with you but why do we impose ourselves in their countries why not go back to Africa( countries ) is it worth it?

    • @marybourgeois4408
      @marybourgeois4408 4 роки тому +1

      Europe is home no matter what social safety nets are available.

  • @andrieamurray4034
    @andrieamurray4034 2 роки тому +7

    Love the honesty in her own admissions of bias. We're determined to break free one community at a time. Thank you 💕

  • @jayjohnson7802
    @jayjohnson7802 8 років тому +44

    I've seen her speak several times. Dr. Grills is amazing.

    • @garyhost1830
      @garyhost1830 6 років тому

      Meh, shes ok a bit preachy. Bear grills is amazing

  • @KL-bg8fi
    @KL-bg8fi 7 років тому +41

    This speech is powerful, relevant, and truth comes from it. I needed to hear this speech. When she said black people can't breathe I had to pause this video!

    • @Gwenesis
      @Gwenesis 4 роки тому +1

      T P and you made this statement 3 years ago, now I can't breathe is literally breathing new life. Most unfortunate!

  • @justicetm2537
    @justicetm2537 5 років тому +3

    One of the most important videos for our people on the internet. Please share.

  • @tamikaqueen1203
    @tamikaqueen1203 5 років тому +7

    We have failed to separate ourselves from our enemies!

    • @meinegeheim2801
      @meinegeheim2801 5 років тому

      Tamika Queen.......... ABSOLUTELY. That is THE secret. When WILL we get it.

  • @deon-dre8745
    @deon-dre8745 5 років тому +3

    Happy Emancipation Day all Jamaicans watching this . Nuff love

  • @Prodigious1One
    @Prodigious1One 5 років тому +13

    This mental liberation takes time and proactive effort. Breathing free is blessed. Thanks for the discussion.

  • @SuperGuanine
    @SuperGuanine 5 років тому +10

    Thank you for sharing your wonderful examinations. You speak a Great Truth.

  • @kertinakimbrough3474
    @kertinakimbrough3474 5 років тому +3

    Thank you so much for touching the hurt in my heart, my day to day professional life. My coworker and I were talking and she said, I feel like I'm under attack. We just want to earn a living.

  • @monax9243
    @monax9243 5 років тому +4

    Keep teaching. We are listening and learning Dr. Grills

  • @ashleyfoye26
    @ashleyfoye26 2 роки тому +1

    She is speaking my truth! Especially, in a PWI PhD program. I am a fan!

  • @imanivaughan
    @imanivaughan 5 років тому +3

    I am so thankful I found this video. I will be a part of change

  • @charlesterrell9514
    @charlesterrell9514 5 років тому +5

    We are very appreciative and hopeful. Sister. Good job. - the plan to heal and help.

  • @PsychFront
    @PsychFront 7 років тому +9

    Thank you Dr.GRILLS! Please keep EEC Emotional Emancipation Circles going! Pax, Frederica-Azania Clare

  • @trzagor2769
    @trzagor2769 6 років тому +18

    This is powerful!! Bless her!!

  • @keyamsha
    @keyamsha Рік тому +1

    It's important to get the exact quote from Marcus Garvey "We are going to emancipate ourselves from mental slavery because whilst others might free the body, none but ourselves can free the mind. Mind is your only ruler, sovereign."
    The part about our mind being our only ruler; sovereign is possibly the least known part of the speech entitled"The Work That Has Been Done.."
    Sovereign comes to us from Latin through French. It refers to that which is above us. When mind is the only thing above us a massive shift in human awareness will take place. This will happen not because I said so, but because Garvey is a prophet who had such a clear vision just a small sample of it in the title of this video still connects with people over eighty years after he last closed his eyes.

  • @poetessaamiinah8273
    @poetessaamiinah8273 5 років тому +6

    Thank you for this dynamic message! It is much needed, and immensely appreciated! I almost cried when you mentioned our sons, and the men especially, yet not exclusively in our lives remaining safe, because there is a constant state of uneasiness in them being in the world where they are simply judge by the color of their skin, and due to the prolonged conditioning of disparity there is a despondency that hovers over our neighborhoods, which can become a breeding ground for danger as well. No matter how well mannered or articulate they are they can still be potential prey. I love the thought of creating healing circles, to deal with the trauma from the time of our Great ensalved Ancestors, that is now transformed into new forms of oppression that we are dealing with in the present! Unfortunately, it is not a gift! Although the emancipation of the mind. as a movement will be! Not just for us, this will be beneficial for all of Humanity! Again many thanks for this powerful, short symposium! Peace and blessings on your Spiritual journey Doctor!
    PS. I am a little confused as to who the end quote derived from. Was it Marcus Garvey or Bob Marley? They were both phenomenal by the. way!

  • @Lovaofmuzik4eva
    @Lovaofmuzik4eva 5 років тому +5

    Lawd knows that was a wonderful speech...I wish they would play this for everyone to see cus ALL of our bros n sis need to hear this....we r a traumatized ppl n we need to heal✊🏾🖤

  • @shellgriggs853
    @shellgriggs853 6 років тому +14

    Powerful message

  • @Ripprock1
    @Ripprock1 5 років тому +5

    Exactly what is needed.

  • @donaldtrumprapesbarontrump2883
    @donaldtrumprapesbarontrump2883 4 роки тому +3

    VERY BRILLIANT & GREAT VIDEO

  • @reneeluvs8055
    @reneeluvs8055 6 років тому +14

    Finally a good TED talk on race.

  • @bruwhe6720
    @bruwhe6720 5 років тому +4

    Excellent talk Dr. Grills!

  • @roseoraeats7763
    @roseoraeats7763 5 років тому +7

    Wow!!! What a powerful message 😍

  • @jaliahlahawkins6245
    @jaliahlahawkins6245 4 роки тому +1

    How can you not like this

  • @TheZuluman7
    @TheZuluman7 5 років тому +2

    Powerful speech ! Blessings to my sister

  • @ojorebushfan3729
    @ojorebushfan3729 2 роки тому +1

    Ase! Thank you for all the work you've done and continue to do Dr. Grills! It has been fulfilling to learn how to facilitate Emotional Emancipation Circles, thank you!

  • @mrlin1687
    @mrlin1687 7 років тому +203

    "emancipate yourself from mental slavery, non but ourselves can free our mind" Marcus Garvey

  • @antoinettewood9898
    @antoinettewood9898 4 роки тому +1

    One of the Most Powerful Videos !!!! ✊🏽🙏🏽❤️

  • @KiRetteCouture
    @KiRetteCouture 6 років тому +7

    I agree with EVERYTHING!

  • @tlgkh
    @tlgkh 4 роки тому +1

    The shark analogy is BRILLIANT.

  • @dgmgneco1516
    @dgmgneco1516 4 роки тому

    THANK YOU DR,GRILLS

  • @ata-ayitehunlede5632
    @ata-ayitehunlede5632 4 роки тому

    Thanks to our Lady, Dame of mind and heart, our Sister. Thank you for this psychoanalysis that frees our spirit and soul from mental slavery.

  • @Igotouhere
    @Igotouhere 5 років тому +4

    The Cow, Shark and Killer Ant analogy was and is timeless! No better reasoning for unnecessary police encounters than this complex misappropriation! 🗣️ Got to love her, and women like her! Sojourner Truth, Harriet Tubman, Mary MCloude Bethune and even Oprah should salute this woman of valor! The Revolution was televised that day!

  • @Moonlight.Melon.Mounter
    @Moonlight.Melon.Mounter 4 роки тому

    This brought me to tears and I’m only half way through.

  • @FromTacoma
    @FromTacoma 6 років тому +6

    In other words, for all people, be the change you want to see in the world.

  • @TonkstheHopeful57
    @TonkstheHopeful57 2 роки тому +1

    Im so happy I’ve stumbled across this video- i was discouraged from my studies of psychology not only because of how white washed it was, but because I became aware of this learned helpless within my community and even within myself. I dont know how to combat that, & how not to project my own uncertainties onto other people. Its just really great to see that theres a collective of people doing the work that needs to be done in the psychology field to understand the colonized mind set & heal it. I hope to step up to the plate one day.

  • @Writ11
    @Writ11 5 років тому +2

    Every little bit helps and every contribution. Thank you, Dr Grill for your splendid efforts. Of course the chains of mental slavery must be cast off by its victims but a helping hand is always appreciated.

  • @abdouruboneka4775
    @abdouruboneka4775 4 роки тому +1

    We must build wealth for us amongst us and write our own history the rest will have respect for us.

  • @TheBigpoppa54
    @TheBigpoppa54 5 років тому +35

    "Physical slavery has ended but the attitude and behaviors, driven by the LIE, remain part of the cultural air we breathe in AMERIKKKA and the world"...................nuff said.

  • @ariyahyisrael1232
    @ariyahyisrael1232 5 років тому +2

    Powerful.

  • @Dede_John2553
    @Dede_John2553 5 років тому +2

    I love this.
    Thank you

  • @makoriasati4980
    @makoriasati4980 22 дні тому

    Great Speech. Our biggest problem in Africa is that we are mentally controlled. As a result we have developed a dependent mentality. It's only in Africa where foreigners live a better lifestyle than the indigenous people. Time for change is now. We change and liberate and rediscover our African traditional leadership structures and education systems and structures. Religion in its various forms either Islam or Christianity and its myriad denominations must be replaced with African spirituality, beliefs and practices. We must go back to our DNA languages and names.
    We must rediscover our African technology, the knowledge that has always been with us. It's time we developed our African medicines. We have all the plants that all the medicine in the world is sourced.
    We must develop and renew our African mass media, we must support the African film industry.
    We should develop our foods and the traditional methods of agriculture and storage cultures.
    Growing children must be brought up in their age groups and the learning, respect, and responsibility that accompanies it.
    We must re-learn and develop the sixth to tenth sense that made our Ancestors to see 1000 years ahead and many more.

  • @Bozewani
    @Bozewani 7 років тому +6

    as someone who has experienced institutional ableism from the healthcare and education system I truly empathize

    • @maddhatter6938
      @maddhatter6938 4 роки тому

      Roman Soiko
      What in God’s name is “institutional ableism”?

  • @kakaololisco3106
    @kakaololisco3106 3 роки тому

    Excellent, thank you very much for this speech!
    It is a really good time to hear this words and emancipate ourselfs totally.💓

  • @dianerichards7932
    @dianerichards7932 5 років тому +2

    Beautiful 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾❤️

  • @ronalddowdell1931
    @ronalddowdell1931 3 роки тому +1

    We're not victims, we are victors. It takes a very strong people to have survived 400 years of inhumanity.

  • @tianiasing2
    @tianiasing2 5 років тому +1

    Excellent lecture . Thank you for your heart felt lecture. Sometimes I need to know someone out there also understands and is trying to bring about changes. Thank you for allowing me to take an emotional breath.

  • @eunicewilliams6963
    @eunicewilliams6963 6 років тому +3

    Truth!

  • @otubassey6025
    @otubassey6025 6 років тому +11

    Bravo. Down with cultural imperialism!! We are all same!!!

  • @freddysoltero7767
    @freddysoltero7767 4 роки тому

    Had the privilege of taking a course of Hers at LMU. Excellent professor

  • @castronette6830
    @castronette6830 7 років тому +4

    thank you very much about this

    • @BBBB-sl3bq
      @BBBB-sl3bq 7 років тому +1

      Awesome! Finally I hear someone speak as I do. Just because it's in a book doesn't make it the truth. Make university build your intelligence don't just regurgitate what you are taught. Almost 300 years of slavery will change your DNA, put regular fish in dark water by 200 years the fish will adapt to its environment and born with additional/less or advance senses. Let's be gentle with each other as black people, assist this black psychology organization so that they may exceed their goal for 2020.

  • @ljubuntu8451
    @ljubuntu8451 6 років тому +3

    Excellent speech, congratulations! Please, you could mention our brother and leader Thomas Sankara, his ideas should help us to free ourselves.

  • @Jayarrin1
    @Jayarrin1 7 років тому +6

    Very enlightening!

  • @ddunvideo
    @ddunvideo 5 років тому +2

    Profound! Thanks

  • @ginawang2692
    @ginawang2692 4 роки тому

    I hope starting today it will all change for the better

  • @anthonyvaughan6470
    @anthonyvaughan6470 4 роки тому

    BIG UP RESPECT !!/ TO UNPACKAGE THIS ISSUE / TRAUMATIZED PAIN OF RACISM .

  • @robertschreur5138
    @robertschreur5138 3 місяці тому

    Thank you. Minute 7:00

  • @joylynne8
    @joylynne8 5 років тому +2

    Thank you for posting. This was very informative.

  • @da_suntoucha7219
    @da_suntoucha7219 8 років тому +3

    Thank You!!

  • @marialaureano3334
    @marialaureano3334 7 років тому +6

    Beautiful

  • @mamatoto5387
    @mamatoto5387 4 роки тому +1

    Love this

  • @innocent4583
    @innocent4583 3 роки тому

    My sister warrior, wish I had known about you before I went back home after exile.

  • @MymyThatGuy
    @MymyThatGuy 7 років тому +13

    This was phenomenal.

  • @territ5827
    @territ5827 4 роки тому

    WELL SAID LOVE !!!

  • @MtlRedAtheist
    @MtlRedAtheist 3 роки тому +1

    Fantastic! Love the shark analogy too!

  • @karenelizabethmitchell-kee1058
    @karenelizabethmitchell-kee1058 5 років тому +13

    I am struggling through a dissertation now and facing many events of implicit and explicit bias.

  • @clwitness
    @clwitness 5 років тому +10

    2019 Anniversary of 400 yrs of The Lie. We continue to make a way out of no way. The trauma of racism are addressed in Circles. Where we can emancipate ourselves from The Lie.

  • @theunrulyjoyclub
    @theunrulyjoyclub 2 роки тому +1

    This was amazing and I'll definitely rewatch as I pursue my degree.

  • @gourmetthursday
    @gourmetthursday 6 років тому +19

    "The Lie" - And what a horrible LIE it was!!! Never believe that lie, ever again!

  • @MediaTerryAllen
    @MediaTerryAllen Рік тому +1

    TEACH HEAL Empower!

  • @stt9379
    @stt9379 8 років тому +2

    thanks

  • @omaryusuf3748
    @omaryusuf3748 6 років тому +12

    I went from herding animals in the horn, came to America, started middle school, graduated high school, went to community college, transferred to state university, graduate with a bachelors in education psychology/special education with no debt, landed a 55k job and will run a business next year, going for my master in Management Information Systems.
    Anything is possible if you have ambition and focus. I started from the bottom of the bottom. This country has a lot to offer if you try try try. I am great full.

    • @BlaxkNobility
      @BlaxkNobility 6 років тому +13

      What is the purpose of your story? That you are free from racism just because you educated and own business.
      Don't let education and money blind your path.

    • @BlaxkNobility
      @BlaxkNobility 6 років тому +8

      I suppose you know the reason why your country poor. And why you had to come to America to get education...

    • @garyhost1830
      @garyhost1830 6 років тому +2

      Awesome omar, i agree completly. Dont listen to the people being negative in the comment section. Your story is amazing and an inspiration. Anyone being negative is envious of your strong will. Your story is the most uplifting thing i read today

    • @freeyourmind8752
      @freeyourmind8752 6 років тому +8

      Omar, many people are able to accomplish what you have stated, it is not such a big deal. Your reference is individualistic, and this is half the battle. We need collective emancipation from the psychological choke hold, deliberately placed on us. Don't be fooled that individual progress means breaking out of such choke hold. The choke hold has been implemented systematically, and placed on us, to deliberately keep us down as a collective.

    • @dwanequamurphy4087
      @dwanequamurphy4087 6 років тому +1

      Inspirational guy. I’m starting to realize that in this day in time we have the freedom to achieve great things. But we ourselves have to believe we can. I am working on my self confidence and I am achieving great things as well. Slavery may be gone but the enslaved less than mindset is still there in many people. I got what you were saying immediately. Don’t listen to the noise in the market. Keep exceeding. You are inspiring people.

  • @jamaalali4536
    @jamaalali4536 4 роки тому

    Big shot out 2 the sista, she truly has a beautiful mind!

  • @dwightwilliams9895
    @dwightwilliams9895 4 роки тому

    Remember who give us the books of ourselves.

  • @AssanRaelian
    @AssanRaelian 4 роки тому +2

    Excellent presentation 👏🏿 I’m going to share this on BackToKama FB. 🖐🏿

  • @captainnemo2150
    @captainnemo2150 5 років тому +5

    Stay woke

  • @jaliahlahawkins6245
    @jaliahlahawkins6245 4 роки тому

    Let’s talk about the spiritual trauma . How many of us have went through trauma that resonates so much to em slavery . We are re living the past constantly through karmic lessons . I feel like they really put a number on us to the point where we are cursed . We suffer the same pain our ancestors suffered just to a less degree.

  • @wellthatsinteresting1
    @wellthatsinteresting1 7 років тому +25

    Ted this talk was much too short!

  • @fredfarmer5952
    @fredfarmer5952 3 роки тому +2

    ...imagine a world where intelligent people realize what jealousy is, and a world where people read Alfred Adler so they understand that every claim of Superiority is really an admission of Inferiority.

  • @keganthomson7750
    @keganthomson7750 8 років тому +19

    BLACK TO THE FUTURE!!!

  • @sOnlight67
    @sOnlight67 4 роки тому +1

    How many times can I press the "like" button?

  • @kwamekoda
    @kwamekoda 4 роки тому

    "...and I still can't breath"

  • @albertgates7441
    @albertgates7441 5 років тому +2

    Read duet chapter 28 from verse 1 to verse 68

  • @headwearheiress8706
    @headwearheiress8706 5 років тому +3

    Beautiful‼ I'm just saddened that she didn't name any women. We have to do better.

  • @usaallstar1068
    @usaallstar1068 7 років тому +1

    Inspirational. Bravo!

  • @BigBalla22Al
    @BigBalla22Al 6 років тому +5

    "Great inspiration, to myself emancipation"

  • @losertherapy244
    @losertherapy244 3 роки тому

    Exactly why I'm fascinated with "propaganda" and neurology 👍🏾👍🏾🤓🧠

  • @acbusy1
    @acbusy1 4 роки тому +1

    Its a....new slavery, times done changed. They took the shackles off our wrist, and put it on our brains. -----Master P

  • @wadehelm2939
    @wadehelm2939 5 років тому +3

    I was hoping the speaker would tell us where in the world the yok of mental slavery was not present and the people there lived a fufilling life.

  • @benaniahisrael5544
    @benaniahisrael5544 5 років тому +1

    This was deep bout replay the video I will no longer accept the lie

  • @franceslock1662
    @franceslock1662 5 років тому +1

    Israel has been good to their African kin, flying them in and offering citizenship. They’re a multicultural democracy with complex challenges, the desire to get it right and keep all of their population safe. Racial micro-aggression starts in primary school, we need emancipation friendship circles in primary school. Early daily racial micro aggression is linked to diminished academic and mental health outcomes.

    • @DLBanks43
      @DLBanks43 4 роки тому +2

      Israel has been good to their African kin??? Thats a lie...You are obviously delusional

    • @curious_one1156
      @curious_one1156 4 роки тому +1

      "Amen".
      Lol.
      The Israeli identity has become synonymous with racism.
      I believe, they percieve themselves as such too.

    • @elrededwards863
      @elrededwards863 4 роки тому

      Israel is not a people is the name of a man who supposedly lives in bible history

  • @chemeng1977
    @chemeng1977 4 роки тому

    When you use confirmation basis to excuse all of your issues on one issue, it gives great clarity, but clarity on a road to nowhere. Fight poverty in the USA, fight to liberate your schools from lack of funding, fight to liberate the systemic poverty in the USA, and lastly, fight against this tribalism that this video drives and seek out clarity on who your true oppressor is, and what the true trauma is.

  • @jeanclaudewodok2574
    @jeanclaudewodok2574 5 років тому +7

    Thanks. They lied in everything and some of them continue doing so.

    • @missshannon9790
      @missshannon9790 5 років тому +1

      Not some....ALL.
      all of them live and perpetuate a lie.

    • @DLBanks43
      @DLBanks43 4 роки тому +1

      Almost ALL of them continue to lie...Not just some