The ongoing fight against ghost cars in Texas
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- Опубліковано 26 січ 2023
- A single sheet of paper: that's all it takes to make a car and its occupants virtually untraceable to police and the public. State law requires auto dealers to print out a temporary license plate every time someone buys a vehicle. But police and some lawmakers say the system is being abused, allowing anyone to display fraudulent plates.
"If you've got a computer and printer at home, you can make a Texas paper tag," said Grand Prairie police chief Daniel Scesney.
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Dude was driving around for 5 years with paper tags.😂 Can’t say you’re driving that long without questioning that vehicle… he knew!
and how many cops do you think saw him and looked the other way during that time, just to avoid having to deal with it? until one of these people slams into your family and flees the scene. in most states, intentionally using false plates on a car is considered a felony, isnt it? impounding these people's cars is the very least these cops should be doing.
Worth it.
@jose ramos registration is a scam? So all taxes are a scam then by your logic. What will pay for state services including roads and patrolmen? Bottom line is that rich people own government and they aren’t going to pay for your taxes. That’s why everyone else has to.
@@jamesmedina2062 people like him will convince themself that its ok no matter what, also the ones who will hit and run on you.
@jose ramos Inspection is NOT a scam, you just need to see a few wheels come off of cars on the road to know that leaving it solely up to the owner to keep a vehicle maintained and safe to be on the road is not a good idea. As for the cost, you're not just buying a sticker, someone with qualifications is actually doing an inspection of the vehicle. You expect your boss to pay you even when you're doing the "easy" job - well you have to pay the person who only has to look at your car looking for issues.
The bureaucracy is so overwhelming that the system of tracking no longer functions.
I have a picture of a ghost on a tv.
We bought a new truck in 2022 and after the permanent tags came in, we got a TOLLTAG bill for the paper tag (which we still have in our possession) - which was photographed on a Nissan sedan. Had to fight with the toll company over bogus charges because they said the DMV identified the tag as ours even though the picture showed a Nissan and the fake paper tag says 2014 Nissan. The DMV had verified it was for a 2032 truck. Toll company didn't care. Nightmare. So glad they are finally fixing that problem.
Was this the infamous Texas Tags? I started receiving bills every month from TXTag for driving on tolls roads in Austin, TX. The only problem is I have never driven any vehicle in the state of TX. After 2 letters to them I finally called and talked to a nice woman who looked my plates up and said it was a plate for a trailer not a vehicle. After 5 months of getting billed she stopped the charges and fixed the issue. Don't pay these people. I thought it was a scam but NO, it's the state of Texas!
@@user-so3qz8lp6x no. NTTA
TXTag is everywhere else in Texas
1:45 "The driver ends up with four tickets, and has to walk away."
And now we know why this problem continues to happen.
Exactly! Because the violator now needs another inexpesive vehicle in a hurry and already knows the drill ...
You're right, it's much better to throw them behind bars! Surely you don't suggest we just tell them not to do that? 😂
He even got his laptop from the car to continue making them
More like these things are fueling their local economy 🤷🏾♂️
Yeah, this is 100% on the police. No reason for this kind of graft.
Ghost cars may also be stolen vehicles. A neighbor had his truck stolen, it went to Mexico, came back to AZ with Mexico plates, the truck was in a parking lot we called the neighbor he arrived and confirmed it was his truck (personal stuff was in the back), he called the police, using the vin # and report# for stolen vehicle, he got his truck back.
Just last night, in a church parking lot no less, I saw a "work truck" full of construction tools with a metallic Michigan Dealer Plate on it.
It's highly unlikely that truck was in use for Dealer related activities.
Jus to shed some.light...
Many construction companies rent large fleets.. there maintained by the dealers.. so the dealer tags stay on...
How it is in ohio anyway..
Wouldnt rhink that much into it
I live in Colorado. Was stopped behind a car last week with 2017 tags. This is a huge problem here as well.
So it seems the problem is that there is no punishment for someone being caught with these fake plates other than impounding the vehicle.
Yeah! Arrest them or something. Just hitting them with tickets and impouding their car isn't going to do anything!
No, in the first case shown the driver was issued four tickets. I don't know about Texas specifically, but fines for operating an unregistered vehicle and for operating an uninsured vehicle can be substantial.
@@dewmontain123 You can buy a lot of different food items that do not have to be "cooked" and it would cost a lot less than eating out. Save the difference for two weeks and get a super low cost Airfryer You can cook anything in one. Then you can buy even less expensive foods and start paying your bills. Maybe even think about getting a 2nd job part time to make some extra money. There are ways to get yourself out of whatever situation you are in if you want to. But then it is a lot easier to just say "no one cares" and "Ya'll should be GIVING me more money".
Stope with the blame game and get off your butt and do something about your situation yourself. And you can afford either a CELL PHONE or COMPUTER or both + internet service.
Didn't know you could be so butthurt about my comment @fraggdu51. I'm saying that if the cops just keep handing them tickets and stuff, they won't change their ways.
@@brianb-p6586 Thanks captian obvious! I know the stuff and they won't change their ways if they just keep getting tickets and stuff.
These drivers know the tags are fake. Good to see they’re getting their exercise and staying healthy walking home! 😂😂😂
Yes, but, they should be getting arrested.
Mostly they are being ignored by the cops. I hate paying annual fees, but I do because I’ve been pulled over for expired tabs.
These days driving without plates, fake paper plates, blacked out glass (in a car that stereotypically will be some sort of POS with drug warrants inside, probably armed with stolen guns, and even a person ready to try to sue for profiling the correctly profiled asswipe that should be locked up) and most importantly NO F’ING drivers license or insurance.
@Z3dsdead it drives me insane.
@@STV-H4H I don't think of criminal will take a chance on having a fake plate getting pulled over when they can just put it in someone else's name
@@STV-H4H blacked out glass means you’re an ass? …i live in a sunny city that gets in my eyes + it’s hot if the sun gets in so yeah I like my 5% it ain’t legal but no cop ever bothers me. And it’s nothing to take it off. Damn humans always so quick to pass judgement on another
This is prevalent everywhere. In like 20 minutes on just about every interstate you'll see almost more paper tags than actual license plates. It's rampant in North Carolina.
Same here in Michigan. I think it god really bad here during Covid, when the excuse was that it was hard to get appointments at the DMV. But since then it seems like you seem them everywhere and a lot of times you don't see any plate at all
In Australia the number plate stays with the car no matter how often it is sold.
Oregon, USA also.
@ButterflyMatt not true. It can stay with the car but doesn't have to
@@johnschoolcraft4160 Well if they were to add officers to work on this with more emphasis, it would take revenue and we know Texans don't like taxes..................
Same in California, unless the plates are stolen, lost or damaged in a wreck.People take the plates off because to get valid registration and annual tags on the plate you have to have a drivers license and proof you have insurance.
in our state fake, altered or swapped plates are a FELONY, you go straight to jail.
Where so I don't go their
Sounds like the jails wouldn’t be big enough
Which State 🤔
Unless you're black or a illegal migrants. Only jail if you're a white minority
@@Isaiah-ft5nx I was just thinking the same thing.
The "people" who came up with the idea for these paper plates, knew EXACTLY what they were doing.
This is pure madness
The paper plates assume an honesty society. We used to be one. That is breaking down.
@@richardball5491There have always been scammers and cheats. This is nothing new.
@@richardball5491 when?
@@richardball5491 Right. In Texas.
“They could do this all day long if it’s all they did”
What a brilliant piece of journalism
😂
Thank you Texas we certainly have enough of the ghost cars up here in Missouri and there's no excuse for it anymore
I've never understood paper tags. Here in Alberta, you walk into the DMV with your proof of ownership, your drivers license and proof of insurance, and they issue you an actual metal license plate right on the spot. No waiting, no mailing, no paper tags. You just get your license plate within an hour of buying your new or used vehicle. And NOT at the car dealership. You have to go to the DMV to pick up your plate.
Because Socialists need artificial jobs. Occasionally you might benefit but at what cost, lol.
is it free too?
I live in Virginia, and they offer paper plates, but there's no reason to. You can walk into a DMV and be in and out within an hour with metal plates, a new title, and registration for any vehicle you buy.
Here in Ontario, if new plates are being issued to the car, the car dealer can go to the DMV on the buyer's behalf, purchase the new plates, put it on the car for the buyer, and then the buyer picks up the car with the plate and ownership already in it and can drive off the lot with everything they need.
In BC you can get temp tags to move a vehicle, but you buy a short term insurance for that tag. OTOH, you can transfer your plates from your old vehicle to your new vehicle. I've had the same plate for 30 years now.
The obvious solution is for Motor Vehicles Department to stop issuing paper plates. We would walk into DMV, fill out the forms, pay the fees, and were handed an envelope with a pair of new license plates and the validation tags to stick on them. My sister-in-law went to the dealer window at DMV with the paperwork for all sales in the last 24 hours or over a weekend and walked out with registration for each vehicle. They told customers that they had 48 hours to return the loaner plates (DMV clearly marked those plates as Dealer Temporary). You had to be able to forge license plates and registration tags, not just be able to print your "picture of a license plate".
Japan does the same shit. They have official loaner plates for unregistered cars that need to temporarily use public roads. It always seemed wild to me that states in this country don't have something more official than a print out.
The obvious solution is to let people be free and stop requiring free people to do things. That's not freedom. Taxes are stealing, we pay cops to take more money from us... That sounds exactly like freedom to you?? 🤔
Another great way is just to keep a bunch of random unassigned plates on hand at the dmv, when someone registers their vehicle, they can assign a plate they already have to the registration. If someone wants a custom plate, then they get temporary dealer tags. Voila! You walk out with tags that day and no more paper tags.
Why stop issuing paper plates? The officer said for every bogus paper plate he catches, there's probably 10 more passing by. Seems like an opportunity to get criminals and unworthy cars off the road, they just need to create a special unit to focus on this effort.
It's really not a big deal lol calm down.
Just get rid of temporary paper plates completely. Problem solved. Not needed in other countries...
Why aren't they arresting them? 💙 T.E.N.
Not enough space in jail....
This is going on in every state.
Yep.
You're watching CBS Texas. Which is why they're not talking about other states lol
@@DizzleDog Correlation.
The part that they don't tell you is that all of the drivers, in every single state, all have the same skin color as well.
@@SergeantExtreme your just generalizing to be racist! Lots of people don’t want to pay their tag’s, all kinds of people for different reasons!
Crazy how easy this has been for years and they are just now catching on.
Too many uninsured drivers out there.
they arent just catching on. They dont try to enforce the law, since doing so 99% of the time (even stated in the video) the drivers are armed, POC, illegal, warrants, criminals, drug dealers and list goes on. Its a safety hazard to officers to patrol ghost cars because only criminals indulge in the crime of ghost cars
@@the1mexicant No wonder why auto insurance is so high, even for drivers with a perfect driving record. It's really a shame.
I mean they probably knew from the start but it's a case of what are you going to do about it exactly? You take one down and they're up and running again in a couple days. Change the look and they just Photoshop a new template and pick up where they left off. Criminals will never stop until they can't anymore, and simply put that will be an impossible situation to achieve.
'they' desperate for cash.. snack tax for example.
Clearly that tax is "taxation without representation" of any sort.
They just pocket money now because we are 'bad'.
Hilarious angels sent from god, to make sure our bedsheets smell angelic for our upcoming stint in paradise.
Good job exposing these thieves.
This is the first I've heard of this.
When more people are doing it, means they're not afraid of the consequences
or their poorer than you
Or the laws in place are dumb.
People are starting to not fear the government??
uh oh
Good! We need more of the people to not contract with the DMV. 👍
@@yoshiramar1992 Just ignorant. If you can afford a car, you can afford to register and insure it.
Here in Hawaii, people put out of state tags on their vehicles, knowing full well police won’t bother pulling them over because of the amount of paperwork involved!
Here in GA they disincentivize going the legal route by charging new residents a sales tax on their vehicle even though they already paid sales tax when they bought the car in their other state. Can't say as I blame them for not registering here.
Why were they let go instead of being charged for no registration or insurance? This is another reason law abiding people have to pay so much for their insurance.
Government officials would actually have to do something for that. Easier to sweep it under the rug.
True just lazy
You do notice the cars are being impounded. It's going to cost them a lot more to get the cars released than it would have to register them. And who says they are not being ticketed? (I'm assuming these drivers did have a valid driver license.) Anyway, in most cases throwing the drivers in jail just creates more hassle; easier to ticket them and let them walk home.
They impounded the car, gave them 4 tickets, and made them walk home, proportional punishment to the offense. No evidence of deliberate malfeasance, no arrest. You don’t even know if the buyer was a victim of a scam too.
I think this problem has an easy fix; have the dealer issue the actual license plate. Since I bought my first new car in the 80's in Puerto Rico, the dealer put the official license plate immediately before I drove away. Today, they still do it that way. Another interesting fact is that in Puerto Rico, the license plate stays with the car forever until it goes to the junkyard to die. When you sell your used car, the registration has the license plate number which then changes to the new owner's name.
That's how it should be done!
There are some dealerships that do. I got my plate at a dealership one time. They had a stack of em piled up.
Yeah but then they have to make sure you have insurance and registration and that would mean they would sell less cars because most of these people cannot afford that nor do they intend to ever pay it. Greedy dealerships.
Cool. That might work there. But with the number of people and vehicles on the mainland,that's not feasible.
@@eddy3080 paid more there than at the dmv.
I’m glad no one who had fake plates actually knew they were fake. They were upstanding citizens for sure
Well some may not have known but I think most of them knew.
😂
@@davidhenderson3400 I'm guessing you don't understand sarcasm
I’m sure they did a background check on the drivers 😂
😂😂😂
Vehicles should carry ONE license number for life as done in the UK. No temp tags etc. The US has many accumulated absurd laws.
If you are ever in an accident, make you you take a photo of the VIN of the other car. It is usually visible through the windshield on the dashboard on the drivers side. It may be obscured (intentionally?) by papers and stuff on the dashboard. You can ASK the person the clear the view of the VIN, but stay safe if you get bad vibes.
I have been seeing paper tags all over the place since COViD. I thought it was strange but makes sense people are using them to skip out on registration, insurance, and use stolen cars. I am sure there is a way to end this but all I can think is to get rid of the temp tags.
Can't make that assumption. Lots of state services were down during covid. I had a valid "expired" drivers license for over a year. I also had expired registration stickers for 6+ months. Hard to resolve issues like that when there's nobody handling those services. I'd be more apt to assume lots of cars are being sold post covid where people actually need to drive again.
What would work is a genuine crackdown. Just impounding the car is not a sufficient punishment; what is needed are felony charges and lengthy prison stretches for deliberately ignoring the law. Yeah, it would be expensive to jail a lot of perps, but as soon as word got out, there would be rush to the DMV to make your car legal. Just consider the expense of people not paying their tabs and insurance; the savings from that would pay for a lot of prison time.
@@freewill1114 There should be a fraud charge and a three-year sentence (non-reducible) for this fake license plate deception and cheating the public who get authentic plates for their car.
Either that or drop the requirement for vehicle registration but keep the insurance requirement. Why should your economic life be destroyed by some criminal who wipes out your car?
It’s unaffordable. Do you not realize how high rent is? They need to make SOMETHING affordable for the people! All this sht is BULLSHT! Raising everything EXCEPT PAY so people can at the very least AFFORD this sht!
@@kaybee5008 Exactly. They keep adjusting everything for inflation except for my salary.
Oklahoma has this same problem. It is rampant. I cant go 10 miles down the road without seeing an expired temporary tag. It's super rare for me to see a temporary tag that is not expired.
A simple 10 minute drive in Tulsa County and you'll pass at LEAST 10 cars that have heavy damage on them and have not been repaired.
That is a huge signal of no insurance
Insurance will not insure a damaged/inoperable vehicle
What does TDP do?
Nothing
GOOD! We need more people not falling for the scam of the DMV, driving at liberty!
That caprice in service is fire tho
A possible solution is to get vehicle sales businesses to have or become a title agent. Here in Louisiana they can renew a driver's license and perform car registrations including issuing license plates. They also require insurance companies to report auto policies that expire.
I live in Canada and when you buy a car here you go to the MOT (ministry of transportation) and show bill of sale, a sellers package, and you get the vehicle transferred into your name and get metal plates right then and there. No opportunity to even deal with a "temp" paper plate.
Here in Australia you get metal “dealer plates” on an unlicensed vehicle from an actual dealer, to test drive in, dealers include proper licence fees in the cost and car will be plated properly when you pick it up from the lot. An unlicensed vehicle should only be driven to the license & inspection centre where it gets safety checked before you pay for the registration and receive the metal plates. 99% of sellers register cars before selling them privately.
There are temporary paper permits in at least some provinces, but typically only for "in transit" situations, not for temporary use until the real plate arrives.
It was that way in the States in like the 70’s. Everything is online now. DMV doesn’t even see your face but once a decade.
@Nunya Bitnezz I don't know about other provinces, but in Alberta you never need to go to a registry agent for a vehicle license again once you have your plate... but you need a plate.
You still do in the United States. The problem is people buy these of individuals. Then never transfer the title. Either due to can't get an inspection done or an outstanding ticket prevents them from it....
And this is not Canada.. Where they deem you a terrorist trucker. They take your bank account...
The way it’s always worked for me. If I buy a used car from a person, not a dealership, I would simply go to the DMV with a title and pick up tags or temp tags. If I sold a vehicle, I would take the tags off first. License plates are supposed to be a matter between you and your state DMV, not the buyer or seller.
It cost money and time, especially if the dmv's are like our's.
@@jjano2320 So what?
@@jjano2320 so does the charges after getting arrested🤔 you guys are some geniuses
I bought a used vehicle in a private parties sale. I just kept the license plates that were on it and the DMV updated their records. Simple.
apok, good advice, taking the tags off a car you sell. Hadn't thought of that angle.
This will be one of the few times I reference a good idea from Saudi ( I am a contractor, not a saudi). But here, the License plates Stay with the car and the owner registers themselves to the tags. You can not close the sale on the car unless your name gets attached with your license to the license plate.
How are people getting the cars??
Today I was driving behind enough vehicles that had paper plates that I began to think that this is not really happening. But it was.
In recent weeks or months my observations of an un believable number on cars without any plates whatsoever.
Last summer I was made aware of a store that someone had stolen several of their highest priced drones by simply walking in and grabbing them, and running out the a waiting car which had no plates on it so the security cameras had no useful information to use to catch the thieves. Masks because of covid were of course part of the crime.
After learning about this is when I started watching all the cars without identifying markings
They seem to be the type of car you might guess. Blacked out windows and some other distinguishing features that are conveniently able to be seen as a particular type of defense mechanism that get called out when the car might be pulled over by police.
It’s not acceptable.
The police have given me tickets ages ago because of expired tabs. But I don’t think any of the cars I have looked at being ticketed along the roads seem to be missing the plates.
That’s BS.
There's going to be more than usual, as a lot of cars bought between 2020 and 2021 are "stimulus cars," some never registered "because lockdowns" Most legit buyers have registered, leaving the ones who bought less-than-legal still with paper tags.
Cool story bro
You just sound upset that you got caught lol
@@FordRangerClassics you sound like you got paper plates
@@Xevion ? I'm just shocked at how stupid that is
Here in NY we don't have paper plates. The car dealerships have sets of plates that they assign you when you buy a car and they register it for you. So much easier.
And this makes perfect sense. Although it doesn't account for private sales, it DOES make sense.
@@bobw7018 Private sales you either tow it to your house for storage or you go to DMV before you can move it. It's that simple. Of course, there are DMVs all over the place in NY and they are state run, unlike many other states.
@@theramblingzone that's something that NY seems to be very good about i believe. Making the DMV accessible. Now wait times may be another story, depending where you are.
That’s because Texas is slow as hell. When you first move here they give you a temporary ID or driver’s license printed on office paper. 🤦🏽♂️
@Albo alt some states are like that. Some notaries can marry you. I’m a notary in NY and the only thing I can do is give an oath and witness the signing of a document. I can also be a court reporter if I so choose
Why are they letting the drivers walk away? They should be in jail for at least a few weeks...
It has been a problem nationwide for years.
As someone who has been hit by an uninsured driver, I commend these cops!!!
I was just hit by a steel barrel that rolled off a truck. The police asked if it was for the insurance and said they no longer investigate property damage claims. I was hit by an uninsured motorist more than once and the cops write down the expired insurance info and you have file a claim to find out it's bogus.
@@userunknownx In Louisiana, that IS a crime. Failure to secure load.
The same cops that won't do their jobs and get these people off road in the first place? Why are our tax dollars buying automatic plate scanners again?
Why should you need to register an automobile and order to have insurance? What is having insurance have to do with this? What does financial responsibility and remedy for wrongdoing have anything to do with these operations that are wasting resources when they could be investigating actual crimes? Not hypothetical, anecdotal or theoretical crimes? If someone is not going to have insurance they are not going to be financially responsible either way.
@@HoneyBadger1779 They usually don't pay. The worst thing that happens is they lose their license and drive anyway. I was run-over by someone and he just skipped State.
I live in MA and the DMV started issuing temp/paper plates during the pandemic due to the backlog. It is already a problem here. I purchased a car vehicle recently in NC which I brought back to MA. I was pulled over within the first week because they wanted to check if my temp plates were real. I showed them my paperwork and insurance and was on my way. I totally understood the reason and see it to be a problem. Glad theyre cracking down!
Sounds like an illegal stop to me....
‘Ghosts cars’ are not an issue at all in Australia. The motor vehicle departments Down Under _never_ issue these truly idiotic temporary paper plates at all, which naturally lends itself to routine abuse. A used car which is sold by a private seller, or a car dealer, must *always* have present the front and rear registration plates, in good condition, before the car can be driven at all. The same applies to new cars sold by car dealers.
Moreover, the Australian police take missing, damaged and defaced rego plates very seriously. Rego plates laws are strictly enforced. You can only drive a car with a missing rego plate, probably due to theft, immediately to the DMV in order to have new plates issued. Every office has a supply of new rego plates.
The ghost car issue, which is entirely avoidable, is purely an American problem of their own creation. It just does not happen in other countries which approach these fundamental car registration matters in a far more sound, robust and decisive manner.
same thing in AZ did get pull over, the paper tag for me was my plate number.
Yeah lived in mass many yrs. It's very corrupt state they stay upp all nite try to figure out how they can screw you......got the he'll out of that sht hole..........😇
@@user-kc1tf7zm3byou live in a nanny state. worst place for a car enthusiast or someone with an sense of autonomy to live next to california would be australia
Please come do this in Vegas. It's a serious problem.
I see about a dozen cars with expired temp tags. Some tags are up to 2 1/2 years old. Many also put their "temp" tags behind their dark tinted rear windows. Some are new cars that the owners can't afford the sales tax. They shouldn't be allowed to drive it. I paid my taxes (and it costs a lot). Maybe they should start using holograms on the temp tags as well.
They should do away with those temporary paper plates in the states that issue them and nationwide. Here in New York where we DO NOT issue them, they are also a nuisance. I see so many vehicles with them from other states including New Jersey breaking all kinds of traffic laws. Speeding and red light cameras don't stop them because the plates are fake.
I live and work here in Dallas and I actually made a comment to my girlfriend a while ago noticing the influx of paper plates on cars, crazy to think most of those were probably ghost cars
Unless the car is seized (permanently) on the spot and towed away this is an endless and pointless exercise in some state this is not even a misdemeanor. In New York it was a 50 dollar ticket until very recently.
As a trucker i see a lot of these cars on the road
When I lived just outside of Austin in Pflugerville, I knew people that kept getting paper tags for cars and trucks parked on the private property of a mobile home park. Because these were on private property the police could do nothing about it and towing companies didn't want to get involved when the property manager asked for the vehicles to be removed as abandoned.
This is such a big problem in many states.
I used to live in Pfluegerville!
Pflugerville is basically Austin, especially south Pflugerville. Just cross 35 and you're in Austin
No problem at all! I do a form of this. 👍
A couple of things could help this. First; separate the Registration from the Inspection Sticker. There is no reason for them to be linked. Second; separate the Insurance requirement, from the registration. Leave the Insurance requirement connected to the Inspection Sticker.
It used to be that way...
I live in Everett,Wa. and I see paper Texas tags on quite a few vehicles in my area.
*I have a ghost car. Every month after the car payment I get this ghastly feeling that leaves me shuddering. After the gas fill-up my wallet is a scary thing to see.*
this is a huge problem in Cleveland, too. It started here when Covid began. They refuse to pull them over here.
Same, no plate no insurance
Yep. Inconvenient demographics.
“The truck would follow us around if this is all we did” perfect, I support this. It’s much better than being a speed trap
There is a lot of wanted persons driving these vehicles, and there will be more because they won't pay the tickets.
This kind of thing speaks to the moral corruption of our nation. Growing up, my parents insisted that I check all of the boxes. Today's parents have the mindset that if you don't get caught, you haven't done anything wrong. So sad, but I guess that's why you often hear the phrase "back in the day".
It’s more likely that times are tougher. Car ownership is all but a requirement in this country, and owning and maintaining one isn’t cheap. Good luck buying a good, reliable car with a $30k a year income.
@@DrCrabnutsit actually isn't that hard to save up enough money at $30k a year in most places. Thing is that 50% of people make less than that nationwide. Minimum wage in the US is only $15k/year at 40 hours per week with no vacation and before taxes.
@@jamesjellis $15/hr is approximately 30k a year, bud.
what morality? alllll gone now
I agree with some bloggers. I am up to my third (I am stupid and liked building up Jeep Wranglers) car (finally saw the light and T4R if concerned) and in all cases produced insurance and was issued temporary paper plates. I find it difficult to believe someone driving for months on temporary tags and not thinking something is wrong. Having no insurance is suspect als well, and they need to be cited if not arrested. Especially if driving a vehicle where both conditions exist. Not a coincidence.
I drove around on BS tags with no license for years. Looking at the consequences of it I def saved a lot of money compared to inspections, insurance, etc, but I am very glad to have finally gotten my life together. It's a good feeling to not have to worry about jumping out of a moving vehicle every time an Officer gets behind me. All legit from here on out, the stress just isn't worth it, if I had gotten into an accident I would have been in big trouble.
good for you. looking over your shoulder sucks.
TBH, they should do away with the tag fees and raise the gas tax instead. That way you're only paying based on how much you drive, and people who put less wear and tear on the road won't have to pay as much as people who drive three story gas guzzling pickup trucks 500 miles a week. People who only own very lightweight vehicles, and don't drive much, are contributing almost nothing to road wear. It's stupid to threaten them with vehicle forfeiture unless they pay extortionate fees every single year.
What prevented you from getting insurance? You can have a vehicle with the correct tags and legitimately registered and it not be insured
@@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath Drugs
@@stephenhood2948What drugs have the insurance side affect?
Yet another fine example of how criminals do not and will not obey laws. Make as many laws as you like…the weight of them only fall upon we who obey them.
Stop wasting your money! Unless you are in commerce and are using a license plate, it's your right to control an automobile on the PUBLIC ROADS payed for by TAXES. You don't need a license, plate, insurance, or registration for an automobile unless it's a "vehicle" that is "transporting" goods or people in commerce! Rights, we are born with them and they are God given, live on
Many people who do this are citizens. Several cops have been arrested for speeding, crashing and breaking traffic laws while off duty
It's more that this is only going to effect poor people, not rich people who couldnt give a hoot about 2000$
@@ethano8225 Rich or poor, it's still wrong.
@@mikem5475 Thats correct They cant require you to register your vehicle. read Texas Trans Code 502.003. Registration by a political subdivision prohibited. ITS a Scam If they tow the vehicle its theft
We have a lot of Texas plate in Nj who drives forever without inspection and changing their plate to NJ, is that same gang. I have personally seen many dealers plate hanging. Is that legal
Contract workers go to where the jobs are. They do not change their residency. Same with some college students. I was confused when I had a truck plated in maryland, yet, was a resident of another state, but the vehicle did not leave that state, until, covid. The laws make this confusing.
Paper tags were important when registration was entirely paper-driven. But the real reason was for car dealers to get a "drive-away" sale at night or weekend, and immediately title the car to prevent a customer not returning or to make an end run on buyer's remorse. Once the wheels cross the curb, it's yours. In Europe and many other countries, you register for metal tags before the car leaves the lot, for new factory orders they will issue documents for tags two weeks or so before delivery of the car. If car's unregistered for over 30 days, you return plates to DMV. Car only moves by trailer until this happens. You can get temporary, "delivery plates" but the process is the same ....they ar usually green or red, ugly and have a large expiration date stamped into the tag.
In Portland, people don't use paper plates, metal plates or any type of plates. Just roll around in garbage dump, trashed out vehicles and the cops don't seem to care. It's truly incredible.
The cops cant do anything about it. The case will be thrown out by the DA and the person will be let out of jail with an apology and probably a free crack rock.
F A C T. I JUST DROVE UP I-5 IN PORTLAND AND COUNTED 7 VEHICLES WITH NO PLATE ON FRONT OR REAR OF VEHICLE.
Sounds about right.
Traffic stops are racist--you get what you vote for.
Makes me so glad I waste money on a registration that seemingly serves very little benefit to myself, especially when I must go get new plates as the old ones are stolen. Don't even get me started on the tinted plate covers...
Change the way they dish out plates. Plates get issued to new cars then the plate stays with the car for ever. Other countries do this not rocket science. In the UK cars can not leave the dealer until the plate is attached.
Oh the drama!!! “Ghost cars”, “ for your safety” ugh 🙄
When u see an old ass car w 30 day tags 🤣
Bar code shall be open to tow trucks they will be looking for those plates like gold.
I saw one on a rusted out hooptie, shredded, one corner taped to the inside back windshield, barely hanging on.😂
Good idea with the tow trucks. They'd be making some cashola!
@@youtube8775 Tow already gets shot at enough. Want them to get shot at even more?
I used to know a guy that rented a little corner lot, got a dealer license and would buy cheap cars and lease them out to people in the neighborhood and would get legal dealer paper tags for them! when they expired every 90 days, he would just get updated ones provided they made their monthly payments! He was the ghetto Robinhood of my soutside neighborhood😂
Wish my dealership would do that
What a great idea!
How is that like Robinhood? Dudes just helping people break the law
@NG.. Im guessing you're young and dont know who Robinhood is, so I'll give you a short kevin cosner version. That way, i dont insult you with the disney version. Robinhood steals the money back that was lawfully taxed by the acting king of England. so, by your explanation, "helping people break the law" is exactly what Robinhood does!
@@dzknutzzz3449 don’t patronize me, of course I know who Robin Hood is. We have vehicle registration laws for many good reasons, it’s not even remotely comparable to frivolous taxation.
This is certainly not just Texas! This is in New York, Newark, New Jersey, for example California, Oregon everywhere! And they say ghost guns are a problem. There’s probably 5000 to one ratio.
With that last case; if I were the driver there would be a court case that amounts to "prove the vehicle is actually unsafe". (The case would be unnecessary if it weren't sitting on the impound lot). I would have little difficulty proving I had purchased it the next day.
Salvage title is and has always been an absurd stand-in for unsafe. It doesn't mean anything.
My wife and I have typically bought used vehicles from people we know. Vehicle comes with license plates. While that is the majority of our vehicle purchases, we have bought from the used lot of a new car dealership, used car dealers, an auction, and even Facebook Marketplace. We've personally never had more than one temporary, paper tag on any vehicle we've bought. We've always gotten proper metal license plates and paperwork before the temporary tags expire, where applicable.
However, we know people who've bought vehicles at "buy here, pay here" lots and some have been given a string of temporary paper tags, one after the other, until the car is paid off. The used car lot, in some instances, refuses to provide proper registration & title until every last dollar of the installment payment is made. The correct thing to do is to issue the title to the buyer and put a lein on the car until it is paid in full. But issuing a string of temporary tags is how they prefer to do it.
I've also seen ads on OfferUp for temporary tags. Nowadays the ads are often titled something else entirely, but in the picture and buried in the description, you can see they're really selling temporary tags. I've sent one or two such listings to a friend who works in law enforcement.
I think the mills turning out the temporary tags and the used car lots refusing to issue proper documents until the automobile is fully paid should be the subject of scrutiny by law enforcement. The drivers should be dealt with on a case-by-case basis - some are clearly complicit, and others, victims of unscrupulous used car dealers.
My 2 cents.
right on. arnt there laws that a vehicle has to be titled and registered a certain time after purchased
Not every state works the same way. In New York State when you buy a car you bring your license plates. You never let anybody take yours.
Because if they get a ticket you get the bill because it’s your plate.
"Vehicle comes with license plates. "
Plates are not transferable.
Shady dealers and shady financing has a lot to do with this.
The buy here pay here dont give up the title,which makes them the owner. This comes into play if the person doesn't pay! They can legally repo the car. They still have the only title and registration!
I personally experienced an encounter here in Colorado. A migrant driving a car with a fake Texas paper plate collided with me. He supposedly didn’t speak English and had no drivers license nor insurance. He was cited for reckless driving and having no license. As far as I know he didn’t appear in court.
If we'd close the border, jail and then deport people for being illegals, many fewer American lives would be ruined or lost.
Yeah, if only we had like a 30 ft wall at the border, that guy wouldn't have run into you ... 🧐
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Similar thing happened to my sister in Seattle. She was t-boned by a guy and he was cited on the spot. Fast fwd one week: She gets a notice she's being sued by the guy. The case actually went to court and everyone - incl his lawyer and interpreter - were there. Where was the driver? Who knows? Back to whence he came
States that grant them driver's license don't usually have this problem.
I bought a new truck in 2019. I drove it off the lot with a real license plate. There is no need for temp paper tags anymore.
You don’t drive off lot with a metal tag dude , you can’t get one that quick , the dealership has to go to the courthouse and get , it takes up to 3 weeks to get it !! I have bought several brand new vehicles and never got a metal tag before I drive off the lot , get out of here with that , lol
Absolutely…, the vehicle has to be registered to the owner for a dealer to acquire the metal plates. Paper plates with the Dealer’s name on it and his dealer number has to be on it.
@@genemaverick5705 dude full of you know what!!!
@@loviebrownlow6983 are you really that stupid , no one can drive off the lot with a metal plate from a dealership , they have to do the paperwork at the courthouse to get the plate and that takes up 30 days to get it !! If you got a metal plate then something is wrong !!
I am guessing many of those fake license plates are people trying to avoid paying state tax on their vehicles registration.
Living in Houston. I'm amazed everyday when I see those paper plates that are long expired. Some so old you can't even see the writing on them. Like the one cop said, they could ride around doing that all day long. That's truth!
Wow, how amazing for you.
@@Fido-vm9zi you must be one of those uninsured drivers... Wait, I'm giving you too much credit, saying you have a car lol
I remember I moved to Houston from Nashville I was stopped at least twice within the first 2 months because of TN tags and given a warning I needed to get Texas tags.
@@12TribeTone i have commercial insurance myself but maybe more people would have insurance if they didn't have to pay hundreds every year in taxes and registration on top of the fuel taxes they pay every time they fill up.
@@alecb8509 you gotta pay to play. we can't receive the luxuries from previous taxes paid and not pitch in our fair share
This is actually a profitable venture for the police. Most of these cars will never be bailed out of impound and become state property to be auctioned off.
Everything the police does is for profits.
If people would register the vehicles this wouldn’t be. It’s profitable for people that don’t want to do the right thing, register and carry insurance.
@@user-ln7of9gs4s I’m all for wrongdoers getting reamed. Don’t see this as a bad thing at all.
That's why you air tag or hide a burn phone with tracker app in it, so you can find it again later, and take it back.
Oh my goodness , - all of a sudden , - we're goin' to hell in a hand basket !
They are all over Houston. I’ve seen paper tags that were 2 years old.
And there is me getting pulled over 5 minutes after buying a car to get it home.
And if it is a legitimate purchase what is your big deal with it?
That sounds like something that would happen to me 😅
its so funny i bought a car i just wanted to drive it home without a plate, i was probably driving 1 or 2 blocks and got pulled over, how these people can drive for years without getting caught is mindblowing
Cops are more and more petty, they need to focus on real crime not some fake tags or some road racing! Go solve a murder, help someone out for a change! They use to protect and serve now they charge and penalize for next to nothing!
@@MrTottanham : You do know that if you've just bought a car, that you are allowed to take it to wherever you live? That includes being behind the wheel, as long as you have the Bill of Sale, a Tendered Offer, and a Receipt, that shows when you bought the car, how much you paid for it, and the fact the title has been signed over to you.
I've never understood these people or the blacked out plate people. It's like screaming "please pull me over". I suspect these people are simply stupid. As they pointed out the guy that fled had warrants. This will be the default assumption of any officer.
In the East coast, it's to avoid tolls.
Stop wasting your money! Unless you are in commerce and are using a license plate, it's your right to control an automobile on the PUBLIC ROADS payed for by TAXES. You don't need a license, plate, insurance, or registration for an automobile unless it's a "vehicle" that is "transporting" goods or people in commerce! Rights, we are born with them and they are God given, live on
@@mikem5475 I know and they know the odds of getting stopped are slim, ... VERY slim.
@@StevieWonder737 you should be educated on exercising rights just in case you're stopped. It can go horribly wrong if you're not educated properly on the subject
@@mikem5475 It can but if the car is properly licensed it's highly unlikely you're going to get stopped at random.
In Harris county, law enforcement doesn't care about illegal temporary plates. Almost 1/3 of the cars on the roads in Harris County have temporary tags. Old cars cars junker cars you know that are not registered. I've seen neighbors drive the same car for 3 years with temporary tags on them. These cars stay on the road and law enforcement does nothing about it.
Paper number plates, what a stupid system. Here in the UK the plate stays on the car when it changes owner, the new owner can be registered online instantly enabling them to drive away after buying insurance.
This is a huge problem in Virginia.
Ayo watching this from Arlington
The previous Governor Northam caused a great deal of this social nonsense to continue with several horrible policies. Here in Hampton Roads, this is the least of concerns compared to rapidly increasing violence, drug abuse, and horrible driving which has now become the norm as police cannot enforce several laws under Northam inspired nonsense.
Ghetto ass Maryland cars too
Likely Richmond or greater DC areas. Dangerous drivers there just like Florida.
Virginia itself is a problem with its laws.
I really dislike the wording of the statement about "Your insurance will take the hit" .... Literally had a woman ruin my life by pulling through 5 lines of traffic with her lights off. Yeah im blessed to be alive but she did not give a flying fuck. She went all in - my insurance is still fucking me 2 years later.
women huh? what do they ever do right?
4 hrs off the lot. She called her insurance right after and was able to have it for herself. None the less, off a dealership lot - its not ecpected by law enforcement for you to have insurance
Same problem in Missouri with Temp Tags. The police do very little to enforce expired and fake temp tags.
I refuse to register and insure my car. Ridiculous prices for the crap
Solution to this in PA is, you must have a physical metal plate in addition to the printed temporary registration tag. It’s law that all cars unless purchased out of state have a metal tag.
Only problem is nobody enforces it i live in PA and i see cars with paper temp tags in the windows all the time with no metal plate
And in Philly i see cars with no tags at all just driving around.
Easy to bypass
‘Ghosts cars’ are not an issue at all in Australia. The motor vehicle departments Down Under _never_ issue these truly idiotic temporary paper plates at all, which naturally lends itself to routine abuse. A used car which is sold by a private seller, or a car dealer, must *always* have present the front and rear registration plates, in good condition, before the car can be driven at all. The same applies to new cars sold by car dealers.
Moreover, the Australian police take missing, damaged and defaced rego plates very seriously. Rego plates laws are strictly enforced. You can only drive a car with a missing rego plate, probably due to theft, immediately to the DMV in order to have new plates issued. Every office has a supply of new rego plates.
The ghost car issue, which is entirely avoidable, is purely an American problem of their own creation. It just does not happen in other countries which approach these fundamental car registration matters in a far more sound, robust and decisive manner.
nj here. if you have a metal plate, why do u need a paper one?
The police state of America never ends 😆😆
Great job GP PD! I drive a lot, & see a MINIMUM of 10 ‘paper plates’ a day. I’ve lived in Houston 5 years now, & I’ve seen ONE car pulled over by police. They seem to do NOTHING about vehicular crime here.!
Bad job. They are pulling people over illegally. I wouldn’t produce any information.
only ten? hell you can go park in any supermarket parking lot and see more than 10 in Houston....
Good the cops need to focus on real crime bother people who don't have money for insurance and registration is petty and tyrannical!
@@johnsmith5028 You’re not ‘getting it’. A lot of the sleazebags that have paper plates do it on purpose….so that the can COMMIT the crimes you’re talking about, without being traced. And, not registering your car, or having no insurance, is against the law, & therefore IS a crime! 🤷🏻♂️🙄
Its because it's a self created problem. They're advertising it to everyone now. Look at all the revenue they generate "being the good guys" and winning public support.
People need to use their F-ing brains.
Our shop truck was just totalled by 2 kids from India driving one of these cars.No insurance. No license.No registration.
Why not just do what we do here in the UK? A car is given a number plate aka license plate when first registered for road use. This plate then stays on the car for the duration of its life and never changes unless someone opts to buy a personalised plate. The car has paperwork called a logbook and when ownership is changed, both the new owner and the previous owner have to fill in their details and notify the DVLA (our equivalent of the DMV). This can now be done instantly online. By doing this, there is always someone registered responsible for the vehicle, even if it's a dealer or a company owned vehicle. Our police use number plate recognition cameras on their cars or at the side of the road that check a central database for insurance, tax, and MOT (the annual safety test) and they know instantly if the car is dodgy or not. You have to have insurance to tax the car and if the insurance lapses, the tax is invalidated and unless you declare the vehicle as off the road, the registered keeper is automatically fined and prosecuted for driving without insurance and failing to tax a vehicle.
Add arrest, jail time, and a very steep fines to who ever used the illegal tag or plates, as long as the punishment of the crime is weak, people will always abuse the system.
I'm surprised you didn't call for the death penalty on this one lol
people are getting sold cheaper stolen cars is the problem. These people could be innocent.
need to make sure the issuing part is locked up first. Once they put into place an easily verifiable system so drivers know it's a scam and they have no wiggle room in court, them tack on , fines, jail time and license suspensions. First offense fine, 2nd fine and jail time, third, fine, jail time and license suspension.
We're living with a mass population of illegal immigrants who love to break the law and they are not held accountable.
System make money ..they don't care about safety....they care about safety free money in hygienes pocket..legal corrupters ..like modern cartels....govements think we peopleblind and stupid😅
The ghost plates originated in Texas in 2014. You used to able to buy them via email for 50 bucks. NY bought attention to the problem because they were loosing their bridge and toll money. Texas didnt focus on pulling people over until this year.
They cant require you to register your vehicle. read Texas Trans Code 502.003. Registration by a political subdivision prohibited. ITS a Scam If they tow the vehicle its theft
It used to be when you registered a car they handed you the new plates right across the counter in the DMV or ADOT now they print out this paper plate. Maybe we should go back to a better system of handing the metal plate across the counter and even having them hand in the old plate at the time they get the new plate. Sometimes the old system is better than the new.
I remember when plates and insurance was less than 50$ a month and new cars were 8k. UAW ruined it all.
In Houston most paper plated cars are getaway vehicles. Thats why no matter if camera catches the exact car or plate it never results in arrests. Its basically a cars ski mask and criminals love it.
My dad was a cop. Fake paper tags were a pet peeve of his. Every time he saw some old hooptie rolling around with a faded paper tag he’d pull them over right away. Always had an expired tag underneath. He said if you really want to fix them impound the car. Only the registered owner can pick it up and these drivers never bothered to register it in their own name, it belongs to the guy they bought it from.
Can he go to the hood and fight dangerous criminals instead?
@@jonc2914He did that plenty. Phony paper tags were just a hobby.
@@MrJeffcoley1 ya right haha
@@jonc2914 I’m guessing you’ve rbeen an involuntary passenger in a cop car more than once
@@MrJeffcoley1 nope, never have. But I see you love boot all you can lick buffets.
I really don't understand the logic of this system. Here in the UK (and most other countries) the car is sold new with plates already attached and registered to it and they stay with the car until it is scrapped or someone wants to use a personalised/vanity plate.
This has been a thing for decades - even when I was a Houston patrolman back in the early 1990s.
I work as Armed Security in a private neighborhood and when we have mail theft or porch pirates, they ALWAYS have paper plates. I think that if you are caught with a fake paper plate, you should get a $100 fine and a week in jail.
nj here. i law breaking getting worse. first it was electric scooters and gas scooters wth no plates. now i see high number cc' bikes with no plates. worse and worse.
$100?!? Really?!?
That's no deterrent!!!
I'm with you on the week in jail, though! 👍
100 bucks? Are you out of your mind. 10000 bucks sounds better to me. Who wants to risk paying that?
lol 100$ fine how about a 10,000$ fine
I think impoundment the car and selling it at public auction is more befitting of the crime. Plus, treat these folks harsh like a DWI charge...throw the book at them cause they've likely broken several laws: no license or registration, no insurance, probably on drugs, and wanted on an active warrant.