They need to sue to get their money back. He was sold a stolen car… he could have checked the registry to make sure there was clearance but ultimately the vehicle was stolen.
Sounds like a government problem tbh since the cars paperwork never flagged while continuous being sold. I’m assuming the police system had it marked as stolen but yet it was given the green light for registration. (That car should’ve been able to be registered, shouldn’t have been able to be insured either)
If the original dealer has collected and spent the insurance reimbursement money. Then this matter can be settled in court between the second dealership and the present owner of the car. The second dealership regardless resold stolen property knowingly or unknowingly. That is why you have business insurance for such events. The present owner either gets to keep the car or receives a full refund. No need to keep posting alter media scenarios. Obviously this matter should only be between the second dealership and their own insurance company.
The lender had no obligation to "make it right" but they were the ones who stepped up to help the guy. The dealership had to lose in court for them to pay up, and they were the ones with the obligation.
This young man is fortunate that he was approached by a reasonable, professional police officer. As the reporters mentioned, this could have gone a lot worse if the wrong type of cop had approached him. And, that car dealership needs to be investigated.
@@dknowles60 When all the you know is what you see on UA-cam or other social media, you will obviously come to that conclusion. In reality, this is what 99% of police interactions end up being like when the person being questioned doesn't have a warrant out for their arrest, doesn't have a criminal record, and doesn't resist the officers. Treat them with respect and they will usually respond in kind. Treat them with hostility... and they will usually respond in kind. You reap what you sow.
@@Bancheis i Can tell you are very young, Dont For Get the FBI killed a women holding a Baby, I been Around a Long Time, Most of todays Police are not like SGT Friday Just the Facts and Use to listyem to your Side at Least Befor Taking you In
This would have never been corrected if it had not been exposed by excellent reporting by WSB-TV. They shined a light on what was the" RIGHT" thing to do, to correct what happened to this honest young man.
Nahhh they wasn’t going to do the right thing without being sued smh any lawyer could win this open and shut case but shows you what type of dealership they are to risk this type of exposure instead of just doing what was right in the first place!
The fact that the dealership made this family take them to court instead of just giving them their money back is disgusting. They have probably done this to others who didn't have the energy or knowledge to navigate the small claims court process. If the dealership truly didn't know the car was stolen, they could have easily given the family the money back and sued the company that sold the dealership the stolen car in the first place...but we all know the dealership doesn't want to upset their stolen car supplier.
I'd suspect the same. People don't realize how slow and expensive court cases can get, and a car dealership has much deeper pockets than a college student.
Especially as the dealer had a remedy in collecting what they paid back from where they got it. You never have legitimate title to stolen property, no matter if you know it not. What is not answered here is, where did a title come from?
And yet the state allows them to hold a dealer’s license? The dealer is required to have a bond, if something like this happens and they don’t pay up The customer can go after their bond or insurance. Making you bonding company or insurance pay out on a claim is usually very bad business and you’ll pay in the long run.
Dealership did the same thing that insurance companies do constantly. They hope people wont have the funds and/or time to fight it in court and just give up.
That’s the horribly sad part about it. A reputable dealer would have made things right without hesitation. It is very plausible and quite probable that the company the dealer uses to check against things like this wasn’t updated and on the flip side it’s possible that the reporting police agency didn’t enter the stolen car into the NICB
@@bhall4996Until most turns into all, they should report it. Just like this story. Most cars that people buy are not stolen and cause people to lose their money to shady dealerships. So are we saying that the news hates showing honest car deals? 🤔
Actually, he didn't. The kid was in possession of stolen property no matter how much paperwork he had and that should have been something a JUDGE determined. That wasn't something for a street cop to work out.
@@baconoverlord7982 He was also the victim of a scam in which he loses his car and at least for some time his money and whatever he needed transportation for. This was absolutely something that someone serving a community should do. You can go pound sand.
Holy crap. Wells Fargo actually stepped up and did something? Astounding. Next, I believe that deputy handled this situation with the utmost professionalism. I hope that, when it's all said in done, this man will get a replacement vehicle and not be out any cash, and perhaps come out ahead.
They have to they have been engaging in dirty tactics for the last 15 yrs including charging for services that customers didn't know they were enrolled in they have a new CFO who's trying to reverse a lot of those bad practices
Glad this story aired so hopefully the public can see this and *stop shopping at Evolution Cars. They refused to return the man’s money* claiming they didn’t make a mistake when all evidence presented to them says they sold the stolen vehicle so should’ve made it right and apologized. Then at least offered to sell him a decent car under the similar loan payments which is called *Good Business* but they simply didn’t care about their customer.
@@NoJusticeNoPeace I do not know the law, but on principle, fvck that manager. There is such a thing as tact and treating people respectfully. I would make sure to tell everyone I know to never buy a car from that dealer. People do not want that BS in their lives.
I'm so glad this young man is getting made whole. But it's absolutely disgusting that it was only by the luck of him not being stopped on the road and by having a level-headed police officer and Wells Fargo finally stepping up probably just for good PR, that this didn't go horribly sour.
The state is liable. The dealership went through the legal process to buy the car in the state of Georgia. You can not register and tag a vehicle without state approval. There needed to be a form of car insurance on the vehicle and the insurance company verifies info from the states motor vehicle system. The state failed.
@@jordanjay1479 But there is a warranty on the vehicle itself. The dealership would be in breach of warranty because they were not legally able to sell the vehicle because it was stolen. They are liable, and any bank if they provided a loan on the vehicle.
@@jordanjay1479 or the dealership bought the car and registered it and stopped payment on the car pulling a fast one. Was most likely an auction car, may have had an account at the auction etc. plenty of ways for the dealer to do everything “by the books”.
The car dealership SUCKS and should’ve paid the customer the monies back! As a former owner of a dealership it’s his moral obligation and honestly “legal” responsibility IF certain things weren’t followed. 🔥I hope everyone leaves this dealership a bad customer service review based upon you “OPINION of them handling another customer”, it’s legal to leave that type and they can’t remove it!
This just proves how sketchy dealerships really are. They don't car about you honestly, they just want that payday. To even think selling a stolen car to someone is the CUSTOMERS responsibility is ridiculous.
Why are you so quick to blame the dealership, But say nothing about the States department of Motor vehical, that was handing out clean paperwork to both the dealer and the customer? Isn't this 100% the states fault?
@@northyland1157 i agree states at fault but what makes this dealer ship shady is the fact that family they had to go throw court just to get there money back
@@northyland1157 You are right that the state is mostly at fault, but the dealership should also take some responsibility since they still expect the customer to pay for a car that they should have never sold.
@@northyland1157 The state almost certainly disclaims the limitations of their title checks. In other words, if it isn't in GA's system as stolen or totaled, it will come back clean. The dealership, on the other hand, must guarantee that it can legally sell the car when it sells a car (warranty of title). So legally, the dealership is responsible. The dealership knows this but tried to avoid its responsibility.
I believe drug dealers can have more pride within their work versus Car Dealers. I'm still mad about my car's situation and that it was SO-CALLED CERTIFIED Vehicle
Dude would probably get fired if he said otherwise. But that's what you get when you buy from a company called "evolution" or some other off name that you've never heard of before.
That dealership needs to be investigated,such disgusting individuals and they definitely should be avoided. Im glad it turned outlike this because as we all know, it could've been a lot worse.
It's the state's fault. George is liable. Think about it in all states you have to go through the state's government to own and drive a car on the road. Car insurance companies verify information with state governments. The state actually failed. The dealer was able to register and insure the vehicle, without red flags.
@jordanjay1479 Theres a better business way of doing it though... Being flexible with the young man and going after the state yourself. You are then helping the man out of the situation while also getting support sharing your side of having to go after the state etc. There was just a better way to handle it all
@@Fastshot So if you bought a stolen car on accident and the state said everything was legit to you and the car insurance that you use, it'll be your fault still? I don't think it'll be your fault, but it sounds like you would blame yourself because your putting blame on the dealership. Car dealerships don't make a huge amount of profit on cars that they sell relative to what they invest into them. Would you lose money because the state made a mistake? The dealership would lose money on that, not break even.
Honestly, you're not wrong at all. Different officer, same situation - it could have ended horribly. From the sounds of things he was good at de-escalating things and making sure the victim knew it wasn't his fault and didn't do anything wrong. Just communicated with him like a human being.
Unreal! How is this even possible? What the hell is the state doing with these registrations and titles. Thanks Wells Fargo, the responding officer, and the judge for being professional and setting the situation right.
Why wouldn't they sue the state who is issuing good paperwork on a stolen car? It seems like the state would be at fault for issuing a clean title on a hot car!
No kidding! They're going around selling stolen property and taking zero responsibility. I'm not sure how there are no bigger legal repercussions for them. It's scary and infuriating!
You know, in a civilised country, responsability goes along the chain of purchase until it either cannot be followed up any further or you end up at a person who made a sketchy deal. And then you have the US of A.
@@Nugire . In the UK, in any contract of sale, there is an implied term that the seller has the right to sell the goods. If the goods are stolen, they do not have that right, and it would be a breach of contract to sell them.
My manager of the dealership said they did everything they were supposed to do. If that is true, there’s something wrong in the system because things should’ve lit up once that Vin hit.
I agree, wouldn’t be the states fault for not having this vehicle reported as stolen on their system? Even the officer stated that the vehicle does not show up as stolen, so why is everyone blaming the dealership?
@@Freeworld856 Because the dealership handled it badly after the fact. In the end it was still stolen merchandise. They could easily write it off to bad debt which is still a win for them. In the end they forced the family to small claims court and lost. Not a good look for the business, because now they have a judgment against them instead of just doing the right thing.
If the customer is inconvenienced, loses his car, and is being harassed by the dealership's financing company, then the dealership did not do everything right. The dealership got to the find out stage once the court ruled and found it liable. The dealership had to pay $4,500.00 as ruled by the court because the dealership is shady, predatory, and dishonest. I'm glad the young man was made whole. I hope people avoid that dealership and post negative reviews until it goes out of business.
@@Freeworld856 because they bought the car from somewhere. Maybe the sheriff can drop by and start running vins on everything for awhile you know to help the dealer out😎
How is the dealership buying the car from the car thief who has none of the required paperwork showing they own the car and it has been paid off so it can be sold to another party?
He wouldn't of gotten his money back if he didn't contact news stations about his story. Shows you what a little bit of public embarrassment can do for you.
@@slapahoe69 for the wells Fargo part it did. Wells Fargo backpedalled on billing him after the news started asking for interviews. At first customer service at Wells Fargo was refusing to drop the payments/refund the money.
@@jackm3040 you must have missed the detail that the car was stolen from a dealership. If it was being financed, it was whatever bank underwrites the lot plans for that dealer. I don't know if Wells Fargo services such loans, but assuming they do, do you really think they keep tabs on if a vehicle's stolen or not? C'mon man.
First both mother and son kept calm during the situation. The cop who came to the house was very professional! He tried to deescalate the situation. A lesson to be learned here! The car dealer is a slimeball company! Do the right thing! Instead, they get all these bad publicity, and lost in court!
Amen! Everyone was polite and tactful. That could have been a bad situation. They absolutely matched the tone of the officier. We need more good officers like him!
But did they refund the young man's money? The court does not get your money for you; all you get is a judgement. You have to get the money out of them and if they don't cooperate, you just lose out.
What a professional officer I did not hear him threaten to shoot the driver, nor did he put little belittle or berate the driver.. thank you officer for not making a bad day much worse by being unprofessional, you should be in charge of training those who have to pull over potentially stolen vehicles..
I went to Evolution Motors, the same one, and before they even introduced themselves a man ask me if I was going to finance it with them so I left. The place was unkept and the people were creepy. I've bought 4 or 5 cars in my life but Evolution Motors was not for me!
It doesn’t matter what’s required by the state, EVOLUTION CARS, you just lost a wholeee ton of business. Nobody likes doing business with people who don’t feel the need, let alone WANT to make it right. I hope & pray this young man gets his hard earned money back.🙏🏼
Chances are, this is not the first stolen car they have sold. Either that, or this is a new manager that was bringing shady tricks from his previous employment.
If anyone buys a car from this dealership after hearing about this, you get what you deserve. They literally just informed everyone about who they are.
But legaly it;s the dealer who response for the money as they gave them stolen property and took money from the bank. I bet wells Fargo is going to sell the dealership
Thank you, Wells Fargo is very shady, I worked for them and they said they were so diverse and their people were very racist, one girl that was mexican, she was 21 and the white girls would make comments about tacos and burritos and she just laughed with them, not even realizing what they were doing. She said well "My mother is 1/2 white and my dad is mexican" I just said, "Girl, you have a lot to learn" I quit right after that. The manager did not want me to go and wanted me to not say anything about this, she allowed this to go on, I went back to visit AFTER I graduated and found out that she had died of cancer and all the tellers were fired for racist comments and then they close the entire bank.
The owner of Evolution Car Dealership is buying stolen cars off of the black market! And from chop shops! Plain and simple! Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles can see that. I hope the dealership had to pay court cost for them as well. It costs to take someone to court. Time and money.
Lesson learned, don't shop at that car dealership, if one wants to even call them that. But that is scary. Glad it all finally got worked out in this young man's favor! I'm surprised that Wells Fargo made it right, and sad that they had to take the car dealership to court to get a resolution. But glad they did and that they won. Good on this young man and the officer, both for handling this crazy situation really well.
If everyone who would / should know a car is stolen is saying it's fine then nearly a year later they change their mind why are you blaming anyone else. This is a government issue.
I hope the car dealer goes bankrupt, the slimy bastards. My Dad used to say, "I'd rather have a sister who's a hooker, than a brother who's a car salesman."
Needless to say I know which dealership I won't be purchasing a car from.. that dealership deserves the Budlight award for kicking themselves in the chops with that arrogant manager
This just made my blood pressure go up this is so sickening on so many levels this young man did everything right and got treated like he was the one who stole it by the car dealership they need to be investigated and shut down immediately ⁉️🤔😡
What does this have to do with this story? This man could've been killed by an officer with a happy trigger finger but thank God a decent officer was sent. We're grown we don't do dares goofy
The car dealership SUCKS and should’ve paid the customer the monies back! As a former owner of a dealership it’s his moral obligation and honestly “legal” responsibility IF certain things weren’t followed. 🔥I hope everyone leaves this dealership a bad customer service review based upon you “OPINION of them handling another customer”, it’s legal to leave that type and they can’t remove it!
The dealership is 100% liable they will have to sue who ever they bought the car from! It’s not the buyers responsibility to verify the legitimacy of the vehicle they put up for sale and if if they were scammed as a business it’s their problem to sue where ever they got the car from or file a insurance claim on their business insurance. This whole situation just guarantees that dealership won’t be in business much longer now that the story is out about how shady the company is
Honestly, good job on Wells Fargo's part to step up and do something to help this young man. So often you see big companies like this try to deny and push the blame just to save a few thousand. Good to see that they still have good morals.
Wells Fargo only did it because the news crew started asking for interviews on the situation. If the news were not sending them emails for interviews/statements on the matter then they would have kept billing the guy or tanked his credit.
Some of their employees maybe have good morals, but not WF itself. They are on PR duty because they have a reputation that is in the toilet. I’m blocked from their page bc I complained because the CSR’s were giving me a run around with no answers!
You can't collect on a lien against stolen merchandise that's fraud since Wells Fargo doesn't have a legal claim to the car either. It's kind of the bare minimum they had to do to not literally be breaking the law lol
They can arrest you for zero cause but can't save an innocent person from some wrongful repossession? They have more authority than a citizen, maybe they should start standing up for we the people rather than against us.
Dealership sold stolen property, they should have been charged. I can't help but think the Ohio dealership that reported it stolen had traded it to another dealership and didn't log in the trade.
@@davescott686 Where did the title come from? Couldn't have been the original. If the dealership didn't print it, there should be a paper trail to who did. Dealership shirking responsibility speaks volumes.
You have to to or have reasonable reason to know they item you possessed is stolen. GOod example of this is if the guy after buying a car from that dealership sold the car. Would expect him to go to prison?
@@ronjohnson9032 From the previous owner. The Deputy said the vin did not come up as stolen in Georgia. That's a problem . Most likely the guy that stole it registered in Georgia . If Dealership was not able to transfer title to the bank the bank would have came after them in the first month.
I’m proud of the young man for always try and do the right thing. I’m ashamed that the dealership didn’t step up to the plate but I’m glad that the finance company did. It sounds to me like the dealerships and the state of Georgia need to figure stuff out and that’s me being nice.
This is what happens when you have bad people managing your company. This could've been peaceably resolved but now that gotta pay and their reputation is gonna take a hit.
Great work to the news reporter at WSB-TV, the law enforcer, the young man, his mother, and Wells Fargo. The car dealership on the other hand should be investigated immediately!!
Well I can tell y'all. My father in law was one of the TOP car salesman In Arkansas for more than 10 years.. The amount of shady stuff they do is insane. I'm not surprised this happened and no one noticed for so long. Yes, it is all the dealerships fault. Because I've seen this happen more than it should. Longest being 4 years...
As a former car salesman, I agree. There's a chance the dealership unknowingly bought a stolen car and got scammed. If this is the case, they still knowingly sold a stolen car, passing the scam onto the buyer. The more likely scenario is they acquired the car very cheaply, knowing it was stolen and made a huge profit by flat-out scamming the buyer. When they're eventually caught, they claim ignorance, hoping enough time has passed to try to shift the blame. This dealer is likely under investigation after this news story. At the very least, they won't be able to scam anyone else for a while because they know they're being watched. The reporter should have asked the dealer where they got the car from.
This situation was handled with awesomeness from the deputy. Demetrius and Wells Fargo. I just retired from WF and they've come a long way in trying to repair their image. Great job taking them to court!!
I said I was shocked how quick they answered and this was my thought lol they are trying to clean up. That company is just a mess. I bank with them and was caught up in that checking scandal a few years ago. I would never get any loan from them atp. They have a lot of work to do. I had some nice bankers at WF..it’s their policies that make no sense.
He bought it from the dealership. Since it was a merchant, the warranty of merchantability applies, and that includes the warranty of title. The car dealership is 100% responsible. The dealership owes him a full refund of his purchase.
Sounds like the dealership does this to scam people. Hide a "stolen" car. Make a report. Sell the car. Then lead police right to the vehicle. After they been paying on it for 1-2 years. They need to do an investigation on these dealerships, especially if they report cars stolen.
The young man produced his documentation on the vehicle when asked to do so. Did the dealership have any supporting documentation showing how they came to possess the vehicle? That would be something to look into in my opinion. Glad things worked out in this mans favor.
Yes, he emphasized with what that young man was going through, and did his best to help him through a horrible situation. I don't know if that can be taught, but we need more good cops like that!
A traffic stop that went perfectly correct without an odd situation never makes the news. This was an odd situation. The issue is that the bad ones are protected by the system with qualified immunity, lower sentences if they even get any, or the classic relieved of their duties only to be hired at another precinct.
Back when I started driving for Uber.. I rented from a guy on craigslist.. I was driving with customers and police stopped me with a guns saying the car is stolen..we found that the car was reported by his ex..I feel you brother at least cops are nice about it..
I had this happen a few years ago to my mother. My husband and I bought a car from a car lot and then sold it to my mom. When she went to register it, my husband and I didn't have it long enough to do it, it came back as a stolen car. Man was my mom pissed,we gave her back her money and then we sued the car lot and dealer and got our money back.
Evolution Motors did not legally own the car, so they had no legal right to sell it. The dealership’s argument that they did everything legally required is false, so they are the ones on the hook.
Dealership did everything correctly. If the kid and mother was able to have a registration under their name. The dealership got the car legally. In between that is where the fault is. Common sense
@@jeremys6631 - It’s obvious Evolution Cars did not get the car legally, since they failed to provide a legal title to prove ownership. While you can legally register a car in Georgia without an attached title, you cannot legally sell it. Evolution Cars had no right to the customer’s payments in this case. This does not prevent Evolution from seeking damages from the Ohio dealership from whom they purchased the car.
@@jeremys6631 Correction, they did the minimum required diligence in the state, but that doesn't get them off the hook regarding liability. At the end of the day, they still sold stolen property.
@@jackm3040 - Vehicle ownership is determined by a valid title. It doesn’t matter what due diligence is performed, what database the vehicle is listed or not listed in, or valid vehicle registration. Evolution Car, Wells Fargo, and the customer may ALL be victims in this case. I believe it is highly likely the car WAS Stolen. The police came for it because it WAS reported stolen. Evolution purchased the car from a dealer in Ohio who likely sold the vehicle with a counterfeit title. Evolution may have believed the title to be valid and sold the car to Wells Fargo, who provided the auto loan to the customer and also did not detect the title was fraudulent. At some point, someone determined there were 2 titles for the same VIN#. The owner of the older title had reported the vehicle stolen, and the more recent title was determined to be a fraud. By selling the vehicle to Wells Fargo, Evolution legally implied their title was valid. This was not the case, and Evolution had no legal right to sell the car. It doesn’t matter what Evolution believed or what due diligence they performed. They are responsible to return the money to Wells Fargo and the car must be returned to its rightful owner. Evolution can seek damages from the Ohio dealer (as I stated in my reply to @Jeremy S), who also had no legal right to sell the car. However, I’d suspect that Ohio dealer is long gone with Evolution’s money if that was the case.
This particular story just showed up randomly in my "side bar" on YT...so I clicked on it, of course. By the end my eyes were welling up w/tears. I am SO happy that this young man was able to get this resolved, not *only* thru Wells Fargo financing, *BUT* also thru the local Courts when he won judgement *for him* and AGAINST the dealership and awarded judgement for $4,500 too!!! Because, as the new broadcasters were saying on air.....THIS could've ended up soooo tragically for this young man & his family. And strangely, many of us watching this probably never thought that "a legitimately & LEGALLY purchased vehicle" from a DEALERSHIP *could be* a stolen vehicle.....now we know..... that IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE....
So glad it worked out for the young man and he lovely mother. I sure wish the best of success for both of them. Kudos to the police officer for the way he handled the situation and himself. Love to see more officers like him.
This is happening a lot these days and the dealership seems shady, they should be investigated thoroughly as others have mentioned. Nice of Wells Fargo to step to the plate and help that poor guy out, even though they were the ones not even liable to do so !
The dealership said get a lawyer Wooow well it looks like you lost in court 😂 sometimes you have to put yourself in that person's shoes and see how you would feel I'm glad justice prevailed.
The bank and dealer are responsible for checking if its stollen anywhere in the country...not just the state! The dealership needs to be going after the person who stole it and the bank to get their money bk!! Somebody had to have sold it and got paid...
That's an awesome cop for defusing the situation and not letting anyone's emotions get out of control to cause any problem since he never accused the guy of anything specifically. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty in court, of course. Naturally, there's something really off about that dealership.
Lesson learned: used cars can be hot, no laws saying they can't sell them. Police have been caught auctioning hot cars, eventually repossessing them again.
I hope the dealership is exposed by the report and is forced to shut down. I can’t imagine anyone going there after seeing this. Your the entity that is the professional a consumer should have to worry about that.
sounds like the dealer is buying stolen cars thinking some loophole is gonna keep him free of responsibility. he seemed like he knew it was fraudulent all along
Oh he knows he's running a shady operation. He doesn't even have a valid title for this vehicle. You think that's the only vehicle that may or may not be stolen? These kinds of sketchy dealers are all over the place in Ohio. Stay away at all costs lool
WORST CAR SALESMAN IN HISTORY! That manager should get an award from every other dealership in the area. There he is, posing in front of the dealership, saying even though they sold stolen property, that police repossessed, their customer was SOL. What great advertising! Now,everyone in town knows where to stay away from. It'll take a lot of balloons to sell their used cars from now on.
To be honest, if the mother didn't reach out to WSB TV he prob would NEVER be returned what he's owed and the dealership would've been laughing to the bank
@@riaa8689 I couldn't care less if someone wants to give him a car. But stating the fact that no one is obligated to give him a car has nothing to do with "hate". Come up with a better overused cliche than that next time.
When they were interviewing the manager, he was trying to explain away the situation, a classic tactic used when you know you’re in the wrong, but don’t want to admit it. And he’s not even good at it, he’s stumbling over his words, and trying to lean on laws and policies.
It seems more to be the states fault.. they were handing out Clean paperwork on stolen car. The Dealer isn't the one who issued a clean title, it was the STATE.
@@northyland1157 The dealer BOUGHT THE VEHICLE from another dealership without a clean title. The fact that the dealer was unable to produce a legitimate title on the vehicle tells you everything. THat's a HUGE NO-NO, and that probably isn't the only car on that lot without a clean title. Be careful of those "fly by night" dealerships, I've had run-ins with them and they're looking for SUCKERS with no experience to swindle for every single penny.
I once got charged for unauthorized use of a motor vehicle(a felony) for a scooter I had purchased, registered, and insured under my name. I bought it from an individual who bought it from an auction and had done all his necessary due diligence. That auction he purchased it from turned out to be the police impound auction. Can’t make this stuff up. I was threatened in jail with no bail options if I didn’t provide the name of the person who I stole the scooter from lol
Dam.. well I'm glad that judge in court gave that family back their money that's pretty screwed up story.. but a good happy ending just hope that don't happen to anybody
I've seen this happen before. That is someone bought a stolen vehicle and yet was able to get the car registered and tagged without any red flags during the process. The incident I witnessed an officer working the stolen car recovery task force saw the vehicle and stopped just to check it out. At the time the particular vehicle was one of the hottest stolen vehicles according to the officer and he told me that anytime he sees one he checks them out regardless. The poor guy who bought the thing dropped it off to us to have some work done to it and we had finished the vehicle and pulled it around front for him to pickup later. I saw the plain clothed officer out front going top to bottom on this vehicle and I walked out there to ask this guy what the hell did he think he was doing to one of our customer's vehicles! I was soon pulling the vehicle around back again so that the officer could go over the vehicle in more detail without having to worry about a suspect walking up on him. The officer soon discovered that the engine numbers had been removed and the vehicle was impounded! When the guy who owned it (at least thought he did) came to pick it up that's when he was informed that the vehicle had been impounded for being a stolen vehicle. The officer didn't arrest him. As the story goes from the suspect he answered an add in the paper (yes this is how we did things back then) for the vehicle and it was only $11,000. At the time it must have been worth at least $23,000 or more! So the guy selling it gave him a song and dance about a hardship and needing quick cash to take care of his problems. Well our suspect aka buyer smelled blood in the water and told us how he talked the guy down to $3500.00!!! Keep in mind he doesn't know the vehicle is stolen. This dude thought he was getting a $23,000 vehicle from a desperate person for just $3500.00!!!! LOL At first before knowing that he had talked the desperate seller down to a ridiculous lower price I actually felt sorry for him. But after hearing the story I didn't feel that way anymore. I felt like a heartless prick trying to take advantage of another human being got what he deserved.
Thank goodness that officer had a brain. Not many do. They usually escalate the situation. This officer was calm, patient, received all the information and made an informed decision. That is rare these days. I can acknowledge a good officer when I see one. Hats off to him. Now that dealership.. the nerve of that guy.”I see what you are trying to say.” You mean the truth? You sold a stolen vehicle!! No ifs and or buts about it. Give that man his money back then you take whoever you need to, to court for giving you the stolen vehicle. Go down the line until everyone responsible is called out.
The dealership needs to be investigated to find out how many other stolen cars they've sold.
They also owe him another car
Facts
They’ll sell stolen cars all day and all night!
@@Joy-zf2cu wouldnt trust it after the first being stolen tho lol
They need to sue to get their money back. He was sold a stolen car… he could have checked the registry to make sure there was clearance but ultimately the vehicle was stolen.
Dealership is 100% responsible... Can't believe the court needs to be involved for such a common sense situation.
Sounds like a government problem tbh since the cars paperwork never flagged while continuous being sold.
I’m assuming the police system had it marked as stolen but yet it was given the green light for registration. (That car should’ve been able to be registered, shouldn’t have been able to be insured either)
If the original dealer has collected and spent the insurance reimbursement money. Then this matter can be settled in court between the second dealership and the present owner of the car.
The second dealership regardless resold stolen property knowingly or unknowingly. That is why you have business insurance for such events. The present owner either gets to keep the car or receives a full refund. No need to keep posting alter media scenarios.
Obviously this matter should only be between the second dealership and their own insurance company.
Civil courts exist to resolve disputes.
@MrTeff999 Hilarious 😂😂? them courts don't care. Lol 😂😂 if they did, they wouldn't be "court costs" lol?
Crazy how it takes the press for these companies to "make it right".
All the time, they finally want to make things "right" when the media is hot on their tracks.
The lender had no obligation to "make it right" but they were the ones who stepped up to help the guy. The dealership had to lose in court for them to pay up, and they were the ones with the obligation.
EVERY single time
Yeah you obviously never bought a used car lol. They’re absolute scumbags
in this case took the court... the delearship steal told the press they are not responsible, the curt told them they were...
Man I’m so happy to hear that this worked out for the kid that legally bought the car.
I applaud the officer for how he handled the situation and treated the victim with respect. Best wishes to the young man and his education.
Absolutely spot on, professional police work!
He’s a new graduate, they said.
🎉🎉🎉🎉 good job officer
The cop was wrong. You cant take that car from a person who purchased it legally.
@@fredcastro563 thank youuuuu
This young man is fortunate that he was approached by a reasonable, professional police officer. As the reporters mentioned, this could have gone a lot worse if the wrong type of cop had approached him. And, that car dealership needs to be investigated.
a good Professional Police i very hard to find, it is hard to find one that will listen to your side of the Story
@@dknowles60 When all the you know is what you see on UA-cam or other social media, you will obviously come to that conclusion. In reality, this is what 99% of police interactions end up being like when the person being questioned doesn't have a warrant out for their arrest, doesn't have a criminal record, and doesn't resist the officers. Treat them with respect and they will usually respond in kind. Treat them with hostility... and they will usually respond in kind. You reap what you sow.
@@Bancheis yet if they did rough up or kill him it's not like they'd face any punishment.
@@Bancheis i Can tell you are very young, Dont For Get the FBI killed a women holding a Baby, I been Around a Long Time, Most of todays Police are not like SGT Friday Just the Facts and Use to listyem to your Side at Least Befor Taking you In
Absolutely. Props to the cop knowing he was just the last victim in the case.
This would have never been corrected if it had not been exposed by excellent reporting by WSB-TV. They shined a light on what was the" RIGHT" thing to do, to correct what happened to this honest young man.
Nahhh they wasn’t going to do the right thing without being sued smh any lawyer could win this open and shut case but shows you what type of dealership they are to risk this type of exposure instead of just doing what was right in the first place!
@@Fucktheworld14020 Evolution should be investigated for receiving and selling sol e n property.
It wouldn't have been corrected if they hadn't sued the dealer and gotten a ruling in their favor.
💯
Shone a light, on a crooked dealer
The fact that the dealership made this family take them to court instead of just giving them their money back is disgusting. They have probably done this to others who didn't have the energy or knowledge to navigate the small claims court process. If the dealership truly didn't know the car was stolen, they could have easily given the family the money back and sued the company that sold the dealership the stolen car in the first place...but we all know the dealership doesn't want to upset their stolen car supplier.
I'd suspect the same. People don't realize how slow and expensive court cases can get, and a car dealership has much deeper pockets than a college student.
Especially as the dealer had a remedy in collecting what they paid back from where they got it. You never have legitimate title to stolen property, no matter if you know it not. What is not answered here is, where did a title come from?
And yet the state allows them to hold a dealer’s license? The dealer is required to have a bond, if something like this happens and they don’t pay up
The customer can go after their bond or insurance. Making you bonding company or insurance pay out on a claim is usually very bad business and you’ll pay in the long run.
Dealership did the same thing that insurance companies do constantly. They hope people wont have the funds and/or time to fight it in court and just give up.
That’s the horribly sad part about it. A reputable dealer would have made things right without hesitation. It is very plausible and quite probable that the company the dealer uses to check against things like this wasn’t updated and on the flip side it’s possible that the reporting police agency didn’t enter the stolen car into the NICB
Cop handled this situation well. No aggression, very professional.
But how did he know to car was stolen?
@@bhall4996true
@@bhall4996Until most turns into all, they should report it. Just like this story. Most cars that people buy are not stolen and cause people to lose their money to shady dealerships. So are we saying that the news hates showing honest car deals? 🤔
Actually, he didn't. The kid was in possession of stolen property no matter how much paperwork he had and that should have been something a JUDGE determined. That wasn't something for a street cop to work out.
@@baconoverlord7982 He was also the victim of a scam in which he loses his car and at least for some time his money and whatever he needed transportation for. This was absolutely something that someone serving a community should do. You can go pound sand.
Holy crap. Wells Fargo actually stepped up and did something? Astounding. Next, I believe that deputy handled this situation with the utmost professionalism. I hope that, when it's all said in done, this man will get a replacement vehicle and not be out any cash, and perhaps come out ahead.
They have to they have been engaging in dirty tactics for the last 15 yrs including charging for services that customers didn't know they were enrolled in they have a new CFO who's trying to reverse a lot of those bad practices
I feel the same way ❤
Wells fargo had to they been under a microscope since scamming their customers.
I was thinking the same thing about Wells Fargo lol
@Davidguy5593 Lol that roast on WF had me 🤣 but agreed
Glad this story aired so hopefully the public can see this and *stop shopping at Evolution Cars. They refused to return the man’s money* claiming they didn’t make a mistake when all evidence presented to them says they sold the stolen vehicle so should’ve made it right and apologized. Then at least offered to sell him a decent car under the similar loan payments which is called *Good Business* but they simply didn’t care about their customer.
I hope he sues that finance company and that dealership goes out of business. That manager seemed like a real prick.
If the government said it wasn't stolen and was okay to buy, it's not the dealership's responsibility, it's the government's.
@@NoJusticeNoPeace I do not know the law, but on principle, fvck that manager. There is such a thing as tact and treating people respectfully.
I would make sure to tell everyone I know to never buy a car from that dealer. People do not want that BS in their lives.
what would you expect from an immigrant
This was an opportunity for that dealership to get a ton of free promotion by making this right. They missed out.
I'm so glad this young man is getting made whole. But it's absolutely disgusting that it was only by the luck of him not being stopped on the road and by having a level-headed police officer and Wells Fargo finally stepping up probably just for good PR, that this didn't go horribly sour.
Terrible!
This is outrageous; the dealership should be investigated…
Bravo that this fine young man has the situation resolved! 🙏🙏🙏
Probably won’t you expect companies to be held accountable
The state is liable. The dealership went through the legal process to buy the car in the state of Georgia. You can not register and tag a vehicle without state approval. There needed to be a form of car insurance on the vehicle and the insurance company verifies info from the states motor vehicle system. The state failed.
@@jordanjay1479 But there is a warranty on the vehicle itself. The dealership would be in breach of warranty because they were not legally able to sell the vehicle because it was stolen. They are liable, and any bank if they provided a loan on the vehicle.
@@jordanjay1479 or the dealership bought the car and registered it and stopped payment on the car pulling a fast one. Was most likely an auction car, may have had an account at the auction etc. plenty of ways for the dealer to do everything “by the books”.
The car dealership SUCKS and should’ve paid the customer the monies back! As a former owner of a dealership it’s his moral obligation and honestly “legal” responsibility IF certain things weren’t followed.
🔥I hope everyone leaves this dealership a bad customer service review based upon you “OPINION of them handling another customer”, it’s legal to leave that type and they can’t remove it!
This just proves how sketchy dealerships really are. They don't car about you honestly, they just want that payday. To even think selling a stolen car to someone is the CUSTOMERS responsibility is ridiculous.
Why are you so quick to blame the dealership, But say nothing about the States department of Motor vehical, that was handing out clean paperwork to both the dealer and the customer? Isn't this 100% the states fault?
@@northyland1157 i agree states at fault but what makes this dealer ship shady is the fact that family they had to go throw court just to get there money back
@@northyland1157 You are right that the state is mostly at fault, but the dealership should also take some responsibility since they still expect the customer to pay for a car that they should have never sold.
no duh..its call a business
@@northyland1157 The state almost certainly disclaims the limitations of their title checks. In other words, if it isn't in GA's system as stolen or totaled, it will come back clean. The dealership, on the other hand, must guarantee that it can legally sell the car when it sells a car (warranty of title). So legally, the dealership is responsible. The dealership knows this but tried to avoid its responsibility.
that dealer guy seems slimy af
I believe drug dealers can have more pride within their work versus Car Dealers.
I'm still mad about my car's situation and that it was SO-CALLED CERTIFIED Vehicle
I’ve been to forests less shady than that guy
Dude would probably get fired if he said otherwise. But that's what you get when you buy from a company called "evolution" or some other off name that you've never heard of before.
I dont even know why he even bothered to do an interview lol. Nothing he could say could make the company look good
Frfr
The mother and son seem to be outstanding humans - they way they handled the whole situation with no anger etc was exceptional
Shout out to Wells Fargo for doing the right thing when the dealership wouldn't
This also means wells Fargo wont write loans for them now
Wells Fargo did something right?
totally blew my mind away. first time i've heard wells fargo doing something ethically right.
Shouldn't the State who issued Clean titles to both the Dealership and to the Owner be the one who messed this whole thing up?
They only did the right thing because it was on the news.
That dealership needs to be investigated,such disgusting individuals and they definitely should be avoided. Im glad it turned outlike this because as we all know, it could've been a lot worse.
It's the state's fault. George is liable. Think about it in all states you have to go through the state's government to own and drive a car on the road. Car insurance companies verify information with state governments. The state actually failed. The dealer was able to register and insure the vehicle, without red flags.
@jordanjay1479 Theres a better business way of doing it though... Being flexible with the young man and going after the state yourself. You are then helping the man out of the situation while also getting support sharing your side of having to go after the state etc. There was just a better way to handle it all
@@Fastshot So if you bought a stolen car on accident and the state said everything was legit to you and the car insurance that you use, it'll be your fault still? I don't think it'll be your fault, but it sounds like you would blame yourself because your putting blame on the dealership. Car dealerships don't make a huge amount of profit on cars that they sell relative to what they invest into them. Would you lose money because the state made a mistake? The dealership would lose money on that, not break even.
The officer was understanding and investigated the matter. And didn't profile. Kudos to the Deputy!
Honestly, you're not wrong at all. Different officer, same situation - it could have ended horribly. From the sounds of things he was good at de-escalating things and making sure the victim knew it wasn't his fault and didn't do anything wrong. Just communicated with him like a human being.
They sold him a stolen vehicle, how are they not responsible?!
Unreal! How is this even possible? What the hell is the state doing with these registrations and titles. Thanks Wells Fargo, the responding officer, and the judge for being professional and setting the situation right.
Wells Fargo rocks.
@Ronnie DJ Wells Fargo is not clean in this by a long shot! they only did right because of all the bad press they have been getting as of lately.
@@redraven_y2kright
@@redraven_y2k yah this is definitely a PR thing lmao
So how do you get registration for a vehicle from the state if it’s reported stolen to the state?
They need to sue this dealership
The did and won
Why wouldn't they sue the state who is issuing good paperwork on a stolen car? It seems like the state would be at fault for issuing a clean title on a hot car!
@@northyland1157 exactly.
FACTS!
@leathan7 Easy to say, but at $300 to $500 an hour plus expenses a lawyer will end up with most or all of the money recovered.
Yikes! That’s terrible.The car dealership should be held accountable.
No kidding! They're going around selling stolen property and taking zero responsibility. I'm not sure how there are no bigger legal repercussions for them. It's scary and infuriating!
You know, in a civilised country, responsability goes along the chain of purchase until it either cannot be followed up any further or you end up at a person who made a sketchy deal.
And then you have the US of A.
@@Nugire .
In the UK, in any contract of sale, there is an implied term that the seller has the right to sell the goods. If the goods are stolen, they do not have that right, and it would be a breach of contract to sell them.
Sue them. That's a crook dealership. Dispute it with the credit bureaus.
My manager of the dealership said they did everything they were supposed to do. If that is true, there’s something wrong in the system because things should’ve lit up once that Vin hit.
I agree, wouldn’t be the states fault for not having this vehicle reported as stolen on their system? Even the officer stated that the vehicle does not show up as stolen, so why is everyone blaming the dealership?
@@Freeworld856 Because the dealership handled it badly after the fact. In the end it was still stolen merchandise. They could easily write it off to bad debt which is still a win for them. In the end they forced the family to small claims court and lost. Not a good look for the business, because now they have a judgment against them instead of just doing the right thing.
If the customer is inconvenienced, loses his car, and is being harassed by the dealership's financing company, then the dealership did not do everything right. The dealership got to the find out stage once the court ruled and found it liable. The dealership had to pay $4,500.00 as ruled by the court because the dealership is shady, predatory, and dishonest. I'm glad the young man was made whole. I hope people avoid that dealership and post negative reviews until it goes out of business.
@@Freeworld856 because they bought the car from somewhere. Maybe the sheriff can drop by and start running vins on everything for awhile you know to help the dealer out😎
How is the dealership buying the car from the car thief who has none of the required paperwork showing they own the car and it has been paid off so it can be sold to another party?
He wouldn't of gotten his money back if he didn't contact news stations about his story. Shows you what a little bit of public embarrassment can do for you.
Not true at all, they sued to get their money back.
@@FierceZs1Shouldn't have had to sue at all...
He sued them it had nothing to do with going to the news
@@slapahoe69 for the wells Fargo part it did. Wells Fargo backpedalled on billing him after the news started asking for interviews. At first customer service at Wells Fargo was refusing to drop the payments/refund the money.
@@jackm3040 you must have missed the detail that the car was stolen from a dealership. If it was being financed, it was whatever bank underwrites the lot plans for that dealer. I don't know if Wells Fargo services such loans, but assuming they do, do you really think they keep tabs on if a vehicle's stolen or not? C'mon man.
First both mother and son kept calm during the situation. The cop who came to the house was very professional! He tried to deescalate the situation. A lesson to be learned here!
The car dealer is a slimeball company! Do the right thing! Instead, they get all these bad publicity, and lost in court!
Amen
Amen! Everyone was polite and tactful. That could have been a bad situation. They absolutely matched the tone of the officier. We need more good officers like him!
But did they refund the young man's money? The court does not get your money for you; all you get is a judgement. You have to get the money out of them and if they don't cooperate, you just lose out.
Did Evolution Cars purchase the vehicle or steal it?
@@kifley19 It doesn't matter. They're legally responsible either way.
What a professional officer I did not hear him threaten to shoot the driver, nor did he put little belittle or berate the driver.. thank you officer for not making a bad day much worse by being unprofessional, you should be in charge of training those who have to pull over potentially stolen vehicles..
I went to Evolution Motors, the same one, and before they even introduced themselves a man ask me if I was going to finance it with them so I left. The place was unkept and the people were creepy. I've bought 4 or 5 cars in my life but Evolution Motors was not for me!
It doesn’t matter what’s required by the state, EVOLUTION CARS, you just lost a wholeee ton of business. Nobody likes doing business with people who don’t feel the need, let alone WANT to make it right. I hope & pray this young man gets his hard earned money back.🙏🏼
he took them to court and was given money
@@BetalerIkkeSkatt I sure hope so nobody deserves that
End of video says Wells Fargo agreed to make him whole again, meaning he's getting his money back and his credit report cleared.
@@BetalerIkkeSkatt Still think this business needs to be destroyed financially.
You are making the best point ever
Evolution Cars needs to check in with the person who sold them the car.
They probably have something to do with buying stolen car, #1 reason they didn’t want to give back the money!
@@tammyslade1375 exactly
The police need to follow the car’s ownership backwards. They need to get the records on who the dealership bought the car from and prosecute them!
Chances are, this is not the first stolen car they have sold. Either that, or this is a new manager that was bringing shady tricks from his previous employment.
Why, they KNEW that car was stolen? Probably one of his hombres that stole it.
Did everybody hear that? Calm citizen and calm police officer = no physicality, no shooting, and no lawsuits.
Yup.
So true 🎉
Well, one lawsuit against the dealership that he won
THAT'S WHAT IM SAYIN
Actually there was a lawsuit
Props to this young man , His Mother and the officer for staying so calm!
Not all Cops are on a Power Trip.
Officer probably knows a lot of shady dealerships.
If anyone buys a car from this dealership after hearing about this, you get what you deserve. They literally just informed everyone about who they are.
The dealership did everything entirely legally, they had registered the car with the state. It is the states fault for not catching this.
@BEES AND TOAST The dealership is shady. They sold that car knowing it was stolen.
@@kennethscott621 They did not know it was stolen, they registered it with the state like they were supposed to. It is the state that failed here.
@@OrbObserver I say it both, dealership should of make it RIGHT AS WELL!
@@OrbObserver Exactly, that why the mother won in court!
Wells Fargo is just as shady. The reason why Wells Fargo did this is cause they have the money to do so, and cause the media reached out.
Exactly, don't go patting those guys on the back
But legaly it;s the dealer who response for the money as they gave them stolen property and took money from the bank. I bet wells Fargo is going to sell the dealership
Thank you, Wells Fargo is very shady, I worked for them and they said they were so diverse and their people were very racist, one girl that was mexican, she was 21 and the white girls would make comments about tacos and burritos and she just laughed with them, not even realizing what they were doing. She said well "My mother is 1/2 white and my dad is mexican" I just said, "Girl, you have a lot to learn" I quit right after that. The manager did not want me to go and wanted me to not say anything about this, she allowed this to go on, I went back to visit AFTER I graduated and found out that she had died of cancer and all the tellers were fired for racist comments and then they close the entire bank.
Exactly! If the media wasn’t involved they would’ve be saying “ get somebody else to do it “
Wells Fargo will 100% sue this dealership for that money back. They’re too greedy to be handing money out like this
The owner of Evolution Car Dealership is buying stolen cars off of the black market! And from chop shops! Plain and simple! Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles can see that. I hope the dealership had to pay court cost for them as well. It costs to take someone to court. Time and money.
Lesson learned, don't shop at that car dealership, if one wants to even call them that. But that is scary. Glad it all finally got worked out in this young man's favor! I'm surprised that Wells Fargo made it right, and sad that they had to take the car dealership to court to get a resolution. But glad they did and that they won. Good on this young man and the officer, both for handling this crazy situation really well.
I don't think the dealership even thought about what the blow back could be when word got out about how they treated their customer.
If everyone who would / should know a car is stolen is saying it's fine then nearly a year later they change their mind why are you blaming anyone else.
This is a government issue.
@@jenksify Correct. The spokesperson is now a target and doesn't deserve another job with a good company. He is a snake and a professional liar.
I hope the car dealer goes bankrupt, the slimy bastards. My Dad used to say, "I'd rather have a sister who's a hooker, than a brother who's a car salesman."
Needless to say I know which dealership I won't be purchasing a car from.. that dealership deserves the Budlight award for kicking themselves in the chops with that arrogant manager
Me too! I-20. Terrible attitude!
He's probably here illegally...
@@catwoman2596 EXACTLY, now that TRUMP is not in office, that will be all we see.
Even the cars they sell 100% stolen to customers.
Bud Light award for being inclusive? I think the dealer was horrible on all fronts.
This just made my blood pressure go up this is so sickening on so many levels this young man did everything right and got treated like he was the one who stole it by the car dealership they need to be investigated and shut down immediately ⁉️🤔😡
What does this have to do with this story? This man could've been killed by an officer with a happy trigger finger but thank God a decent officer was sent. We're grown we don't do dares goofy
He's not the only one either, this has already happened multiple times. They just unlucky but atleast he got the money back
The car dealership SUCKS and should’ve paid the customer the monies back! As a former owner of a dealership it’s his moral obligation and honestly “legal” responsibility IF certain things weren’t followed.
🔥I hope everyone leaves this dealership a bad customer service review based upon you “OPINION of them handling another customer”, it’s legal to leave that type and they can’t remove it!
@Scot Smith it should be. Pawn shops have to let an item sit for 2 months before they can sell it.
The dealership is 100% liable they will have to sue who ever they bought the car from! It’s not the buyers responsibility to verify the legitimacy of the vehicle they put up for sale and if if they were scammed as a business it’s their problem to sue where ever they got the car from or file a insurance claim on their business insurance.
This whole situation just guarantees that dealership won’t be in business much longer now that the story is out about how shady the company is
This could have cost This young man life if he had been out and driving..Thank God it didn't go wrong and I pray he's able to get his money back
Scary situation
Honestly, good job on Wells Fargo's part to step up and do something to help this young man. So often you see big companies like this try to deny and push the blame just to save a few thousand. Good to see that they still have good morals.
Wells Fargo only did it because the news crew started asking for interviews on the situation. If the news were not sending them emails for interviews/statements on the matter then they would have kept billing the guy or tanked his credit.
Come on a broken clock is right twice a day!
Some of their employees maybe have good morals, but not WF itself. They are on PR duty because they have a reputation that is in the toilet. I’m blocked from their page bc I complained because the CSR’s were giving me a run around with no answers!
You can't collect on a lien against stolen merchandise that's fraud since Wells Fargo doesn't have a legal claim to the car either. It's kind of the bare minimum they had to do to not literally be breaking the law lol
Evolution cars is shady as crap. I'm very proud of Wells Fargo. 👏👏👏👏👏
I’m looking for a used car, one less place to go to.
@thorshammer873probably only because it made the news.
Props to Wells Fargo for this very minor and specific situation. Maybe people will forget all the fraud now.
Wow, someone who watched the whole story before commenting, upvote and kudos. You are one of the few it seems.
So if you sold a car and it turned out to be stolen, would you return the $ and still be without the car?
thank you very much for your great work helping to save this young man from financial ruin.also good police he must be praised
They can arrest you for zero cause but can't save an innocent person from some wrongful repossession? They have more authority than a citizen, maybe they should start standing up for we the people rather than against us.
Dealership sold stolen property, they should have been charged. I can't help but think the Ohio dealership that reported it stolen had traded it to another dealership and didn't log in the trade.
In order to be charged they have to know it was stolen. The Deputy said the vin was not coming back stolen in the states system but it was in ohios
How do you sell stolen merchandise and not be in trouble? Whether you know it was stolen or not?
Pay attention. Had title and paperwork.
@@davescott686 Where did the title come from? Couldn't have been the original. If the dealership didn't print it, there should be a paper trail to who did. Dealership shirking responsibility speaks volumes.
You have to to or have reasonable reason to know they item you possessed is stolen. GOod example of this is if the guy after buying a car from that dealership sold the car. Would expect him to go to prison?
@@ronjohnson9032 From the previous owner. The Deputy said the vin did not come up as stolen in Georgia. That's a problem . Most likely the guy that stole it registered in Georgia . If Dealership was not able to transfer title to the bank the bank would have came after them in the first month.
@@niyablake Wondering how the police found it then, if the title was okay in Georgia.
I’m proud of the young man for always try and do the right thing. I’m ashamed that the dealership didn’t step up to the plate but I’m glad that the finance company did. It sounds to me like the dealerships and the state of Georgia need to figure stuff out and that’s me being nice.
How is it even possible to register & insure a stolen vehicle without *somebody* noticing???
This is what happens when you have bad people managing your company. This could've been peaceably resolved but now that gotta pay and their reputation is gonna take a hit.
Great work to the news reporter at WSB-TV, the law enforcer, the young man, his mother, and Wells Fargo. The car dealership on the other hand should be investigated immediately!!
Boycott Evolution dealership
YES.. tonight I'm buying a few cases of Budlight and going to place one can on each vehicle on the lot
@@David-mr4gr 🤣🤣🤣
Nah . . Give the dude his money. Then they need to go talk to whoever they received the car from.
Well I can tell y'all. My father in law was one of the TOP car salesman In Arkansas for more than 10 years..
The amount of shady stuff they do is insane. I'm not surprised this happened and no one noticed for so long. Yes, it is all the dealerships fault. Because I've seen this happen more than it should. Longest being 4 years...
As a former car salesman, I agree. There's a chance the dealership unknowingly bought a stolen car and got scammed. If this is the case, they still knowingly sold a stolen car, passing the scam onto the buyer.
The more likely scenario is they acquired the car very cheaply, knowing it was stolen and made a huge profit by flat-out scamming the buyer. When they're eventually caught, they claim ignorance, hoping enough time has passed to try to shift the blame. This dealer is likely under investigation after this news story. At the very least, they won't be able to scam anyone else for a while because they know they're being watched.
The reporter should have asked the dealer where they got the car from.
@@Brandon_Nelson92I feel like if Georgia and Ohio collaborated on an investigation they might uncover a huge auto theft operation
This situation was handled with awesomeness from the deputy. Demetrius and Wells Fargo. I just retired from WF and they've come a long way in trying to repair their image. Great job taking them to court!!
I said I was shocked how quick they answered and this was my thought lol they are trying to clean up. That company is just a mess. I bank with them and was caught up in that checking scandal a few years ago. I would never get any loan from them atp. They have a lot of work to do. I had some nice bankers at WF..it’s their policies that make no sense.
Thanks for covering this story. It's probably the only reason the young man recouped his losses.
He bought it from the dealership. Since it was a merchant, the warranty of merchantability applies, and that includes the warranty of title. The car dealership is 100% responsible. The dealership owes him a full refund of his purchase.
Sounds like the dealership does this to scam people. Hide a "stolen" car. Make a report. Sell the car. Then lead police right to the vehicle. After they been paying on it for 1-2 years. They need to do an investigation on these dealerships, especially if they report cars stolen.
The young man produced his documentation on the vehicle when asked to do so. Did the dealership have any supporting documentation showing how they came to possess the vehicle? That would be something to look into in my opinion. Glad things worked out in this mans favor.
We need more police officers like this one.
Yes, he emphasized with what that young man was going through, and did his best to help him through a horrible situation. I don't know if that can be taught, but we need more good cops like that!
Most are probably good but mostly the bad are only reported by news.
And more respectful young men like the victim too. Goes both ways.
A traffic stop that went perfectly correct without an odd situation never makes the news. This was an odd situation. The issue is that the bad ones are protected by the system with qualified immunity, lower sentences if they even get any, or the classic relieved of their duties only to be hired at another precinct.
Well they can sue civilly for the money paid for stolen goods and other damages
Back when I started driving for Uber.. I rented from a guy on craigslist.. I was driving with customers and police stopped me with a guns saying the car is stolen..we found that the car was reported by his ex..I feel you brother at least cops are nice about it..
Gotta give a special shot out to the officer. He is the real MVP. Police departments everywhere need more like him.
I had this happen a few years ago to my mother. My husband and I bought a car from a car lot and then sold it to my mom. When she went to register it, my husband and I didn't have it long enough to do it, it came back as a stolen car. Man was my mom pissed,we gave her back her money and then we sued the car lot and dealer and got our money back.
Calm,respectful young man and equally calm,respectful police officer taking the time to compare notes. Bravo to both of them!
The officer was very kind and respectful to the young man and his mother, thank God for respectful people...
Thank god for starving children and poverty then too...
What a terrible situation. I feel sorry for that young man.
Evolution Motors did not legally own the car, so they had no legal right to sell it. The dealership’s argument that they did everything legally required is false, so they are the ones on the hook.
Dealership did everything correctly. If the kid and mother was able to have a registration under their name. The dealership got the car legally. In between that is where the fault is. Common sense
@@jeremys6631 - It’s obvious Evolution Cars did not get the car legally, since they failed to provide a legal title to prove ownership. While you can legally register a car in Georgia without an attached title, you cannot legally sell it. Evolution Cars had no right to the customer’s payments in this case. This does not prevent Evolution from seeking damages from the Ohio dealership from whom they purchased the car.
@@jeremys6631 Correction, they did the minimum required diligence in the state, but that doesn't get them off the hook regarding liability. At the end of the day, they still sold stolen property.
@@jackm3040 - Vehicle ownership is determined by a valid title. It doesn’t matter what due diligence is performed, what database the vehicle is listed or not listed in, or valid vehicle registration. Evolution Car, Wells Fargo, and the customer may ALL be victims in this case. I believe it is highly likely the car WAS Stolen. The police came for it because it WAS reported stolen.
Evolution purchased the car from a dealer in Ohio who likely sold the vehicle with a counterfeit title. Evolution may have believed the title to be valid and sold the car to Wells Fargo, who provided the auto loan to the customer and also did not detect the title was fraudulent.
At some point, someone determined there were 2 titles for the same VIN#. The owner of the older title had reported the vehicle stolen, and the more recent title was determined to be a fraud. By selling the vehicle to Wells Fargo, Evolution legally implied their title was valid. This was not the case, and Evolution had no legal right to sell the car. It doesn’t matter what Evolution believed or what due diligence they performed. They are responsible to return the money to Wells Fargo and the car must be returned to its rightful owner.
Evolution can seek damages from the Ohio dealer (as I stated in my reply to @Jeremy S), who also had no legal right to sell the car. However, I’d suspect that Ohio dealer is long gone with Evolution’s money if that was the case.
This particular story just showed up randomly in my "side bar" on YT...so I clicked on it, of course. By the end my eyes were welling up w/tears. I am SO happy that this young man was able to get this resolved, not *only* thru Wells Fargo financing, *BUT* also thru the local Courts when he won judgement *for him* and AGAINST the dealership and awarded judgement for $4,500 too!!! Because, as the new broadcasters were saying on air.....THIS could've ended up soooo tragically for this young man & his family. And strangely, many of us watching this probably never thought that "a legitimately & LEGALLY purchased vehicle" from a DEALERSHIP *could be* a stolen vehicle.....now we know..... that IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE....
It sounds like the dealer doesn't care enough to do things legally.
So glad it worked out for the young man and he lovely mother. I sure wish the best of success for both of them. Kudos to the police officer for the way he handled the situation and himself. Love to see more officers like him.
Bless his heart. Dude out there trying to do what's right. Glad it's working out for him now.
Shady car dealership. I would never buy a car from there now.
This is happening a lot these days and the dealership seems shady, they should be investigated thoroughly as others have mentioned. Nice of Wells Fargo to step to the plate and help that poor guy out, even though they were the ones not even liable to do so !
They're being investigated! How do you think that the deputy knew where the cars was!
How are they shady.. they did everything by the books, as far as selling used cars. They followed everything. So, no.. not the dealership,
The dealership said get a lawyer Wooow well it looks like you lost in court 😂 sometimes you have to put yourself in that person's shoes and see how you would feel I'm glad justice prevailed.
He seems like a nice person too! They need to sue someone!
The bank and dealer are responsible for checking if its stollen anywhere in the country...not just the state!
The dealership needs to be going after the person who stole it and the bank to get their money bk!! Somebody had to have sold it and got paid...
The dealership knew
That's an awesome cop for defusing the situation and not letting anyone's emotions get out of control to cause any problem since he never accused the guy of anything specifically. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty in court, of course. Naturally, there's something really off about that dealership.
Lesson learned: used cars can be hot, no laws saying they can't sell them.
Police have been caught auctioning hot cars, eventually repossessing them again.
There is a law saying they can't sell them. They just don't want to pay up when they get caught violating that law.
I hope the dealership is exposed by the report and is forced to shut down. I can’t imagine anyone going there after seeing this. Your the entity that is the professional a consumer should have to worry about that.
sounds like the dealer is buying stolen cars thinking some loophole is gonna keep him free of responsibility. he seemed like he knew it was fraudulent all along
More like Georgia is not flagging stolen cars from out of state
@@niyablake or Ohio is behind entering them didn't state where it was stolen from
Oh he knows he's running a shady operation. He doesn't even have a valid title for this vehicle. You think that's the only vehicle that may or may not be stolen? These kinds of sketchy dealers are all over the place in Ohio. Stay away at all costs lool
Car dealership should voluntarily refund his money. They have a bad name in that area now, no one should buys cars from them again
We need more police officers like him in Chicago. Right away like right NOW!!!!!
He was nice because they were nice.
Chicango residents are getting exactly what they wanted. Enjoy, stay strong and stay there.
Chicago would chew that cop up like candy!
Chicago needs residents like that mother and son.
And they were nice because he was nice. Chicken, meet Egg.
WORST CAR SALESMAN IN HISTORY! That manager should get an award from every other dealership in the area. There he is, posing in front of the dealership, saying even though they sold stolen property, that police repossessed, their customer was SOL. What great advertising! Now,everyone in town knows where to stay away from. It'll take a lot of balloons to sell their used cars from now on.
To be honest, if the mother didn't reach out to WSB TV he prob would NEVER be returned what he's owed and the dealership would've been laughing to the bank
It wasn't "returned." Rather, it was awarded as damages in court.
Can’t the dealership be in trouble for selling stolen property ?
He's very articulate. I love this posed family. Now, he should be given a car without payments. This company needs to be held accountable.
Articulate?
He was made whole financially. Even though it would make for good publicity, no one is obligated to give him a free car.
@@edg456 I smell hate 🤭
@@riaa8689 I couldn't care less if someone wants to give him a car. But stating the fact that no one is obligated to give him a car has nothing to do with "hate". Come up with a better overused cliche than that next time.
@Ed G He won his lawsuit, so you shouldn't have to worry about anyone giving him a free car
When they were interviewing the manager, he was trying to explain away the situation, a classic tactic used when you know you’re in the wrong, but don’t want to admit it. And he’s not even good at it, he’s stumbling over his words, and trying to lean on laws and policies.
either the state or the dealership owes this man money straight up.
Give that man his money back, the car dealership probably stole the car or at least buying stolen goods! 🤷🏽♀️
It seems more to be the states fault.. they were handing out Clean paperwork on stolen car. The Dealer isn't the one who issued a clean title, it was the STATE.
@@northyland1157 The dealer BOUGHT THE VEHICLE from another dealership without a clean title. The fact that the dealer was unable to produce a legitimate title on the vehicle tells you everything. THat's a HUGE NO-NO, and that probably isn't the only car on that lot without a clean title. Be careful of those "fly by night" dealerships, I've had run-ins with them and they're looking for SUCKERS with no experience to swindle for every single penny.
I once got charged for unauthorized use of a motor vehicle(a felony) for a scooter I had purchased, registered, and insured under my name. I bought it from an individual who bought it from an auction and had done all his necessary due diligence. That auction he purchased it from turned out to be the police impound auction. Can’t make this stuff up. I was threatened in jail with no bail options if I didn’t provide the name of the person who I stole the scooter from lol
Cops are stupid arrogant scum and demonstrate that yet again!
You should had called their bluff, it would had been a money parade and a big check for you
Out of good faith, the dealership should have refunded his money, shame on them.
The thing is- this happens all over the country. It happened to a family member.
Dam.. well I'm glad that judge in court gave that family back their money that's pretty screwed up story.. but a good happy ending just hope that don't happen to anybody
I've seen this happen before. That is someone bought a stolen vehicle and yet was able to get the car registered and tagged without any red flags during the process. The incident I witnessed an officer working the stolen car recovery task force saw the vehicle and stopped just to check it out. At the time the particular vehicle was one of the hottest stolen vehicles according to the officer and he told me that anytime he sees one he checks them out regardless. The poor guy who bought the thing dropped it off to us to have some work done to it and we had finished the vehicle and pulled it around front for him to pickup later. I saw the plain clothed officer out front going top to bottom on this vehicle and I walked out there to ask this guy what the hell did he think he was doing to one of our customer's vehicles! I was soon pulling the vehicle around back again so that the officer could go over the vehicle in more detail without having to worry about a suspect walking up on him. The officer soon discovered that the engine numbers had been removed and the vehicle was impounded!
When the guy who owned it (at least thought he did) came to pick it up that's when he was informed that the vehicle had been impounded for being a stolen vehicle. The officer didn't arrest him.
As the story goes from the suspect he answered an add in the paper (yes this is how we did things back then) for the vehicle and it was only $11,000. At the time it must have been worth at least $23,000 or more! So the guy selling it gave him a song and dance about a hardship and needing quick cash to take care of his problems. Well our suspect aka buyer smelled blood in the water and told us how he talked the guy down to $3500.00!!! Keep in mind he doesn't know the vehicle is stolen. This dude thought he was getting a $23,000 vehicle from a desperate person for just $3500.00!!!! LOL
At first before knowing that he had talked the desperate seller down to a ridiculous lower price I actually felt sorry for him. But after hearing the story I didn't feel that way anymore. I felt like a heartless prick trying to take advantage of another human being got what he deserved.
They must have altered the VIN # ! Crooked dealer bastards!!!
Good job Wells Fargo!
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The state needs to find out who the guilty parties are in this apparent theft ring.
Thank goodness that officer had a brain. Not many do. They usually escalate the situation. This officer was calm, patient, received all the information and made an informed decision. That is rare these days. I can acknowledge a good officer when I see one. Hats off to him. Now that dealership.. the nerve of that guy.”I see what you are trying to say.” You mean the truth? You sold a stolen vehicle!! No ifs and or buts about it. Give that man his money back then you take whoever you need to, to court for giving you the stolen vehicle. Go down the line until everyone responsible is called out.
How did one dealership mark the car stolen & another not have it come up as stolen?