5 Tips for Advanced Sim Racers
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- As you progress in Sim Racing, it can be difficult to understand what you need to do to get faster and ultimately to the next level. In this video, I review my top 5 tips for advanced sim racers and what I think they should focus on to consistently reach elite pace.
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Please do more of these advanced videos. Your university series is some of the best content out there. Putting some of the core topics in the context of sim racing would be a massive hit. No one ever really talks about the good stuff, like, for example, the effects of coasting vs. part throttle through a corner.
That is an interesting topic. I have some troubles/inconsistencies with that. As an example, being dutch, I like to drive on Zandvoort on AC. It's a technical circuit and I screw up the following two corners mostly: turn 4 and 10. The first one now being banked (not on the original AC circuit), leading up to the fast section to the dunes. The second one exiting into the mid-circuit DRS section. I treat the first corner as a double apex and try to get a late apex on the other corner. Both of them are part throttle mostly, but I don't feel I do it well. Missing 0.109 seconds for gold medal with Lotus 49.
I would like to hear more info on your suggested coasting and part throttle from Scott.
I like how you understeered massively through Copse, just like Hamilton did.
Lmao
I like how you thought that was funny 👀
@@martint8986 i like how some people have no sense of humor
@@rubenvanalphen2780 max verstappen being one of them 🤔😉
@@martint8986 what do you mean, he is in the fucking hospital (edit: was)
Business idea for you. Sim Race Engineers. Charge people to go over their telemetry, build setups and/or race strategies.
They already do this, you should be able to find more info on their site, they can do live race engineer and also pre-race setup help etc.
Next level idea: teach an AI to do that
Space engineers.
You drill the rock to get the wood
You get the wood to build the cabin
I’m always about 1-2 seconds off the fast guys even tho I try really hard. Time to get into the world of telemetry and setups!
:-)
4:32 - THIS!
So many drivers/racers seem to think that, just because they have a World Record setup, it's going to translate into much faster laptimes for themselves...
Unfortunately, the one variable which often costs laptime (and is seemingly the most often overlooked) is the entity sat at the wheel - the driver themselves.
Informative vid, nice work. Would love to hear more about telemetry analysis.
Yes! Me too!
Great video as always Scott, I especially liked the part about adaptability, thanks for helping make everyone a better driver !
No matter how much you think you know about racing there is always so much more to learn. Always a good idea to learn from the best students and it's clear (to me at least) that Scott easily qualifies.
Seriously looking forward to learning more about the Voodoo of setup.
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Well this is video I needed. Awesome work ! Appreciate the help
I found ajusting tires/tire pressure helped me a tin when starting out getting that extra time down. So much so in fact I was able to win much more then most in iracing when I started out. Its crazy what such a minor adjustment can do with feeling of grip or cornering speed etc. It worked so well that i didnt experience the whole omg it feels like you are on ice. But i was lucky i found someone else who was doing it and learned from them. Its funny how sometimes I onpy adjust the tires and it still works like a charm.
Thanks Scott. That’s really informative. I’m getting closer to 2400 iRating now and the faster drivers are really pushing my limits. I need more practice and telemetry analysis definitely
Thank you Scott i just became more serious with simracing. I have learned so much from you already.
Cory.
Great Video! Articulate organized and practical, NICE!
Driver61 💪🏼 great content
As always, great video! Maybe do a video going in depth on how to maximize traction out of tight corners? I used to struggle with that a lot. And it seems most people do?
Nice one Scott 👍 I really need to get my head into telemetry, its a daunting part of sim racing for me. Looks very complicated on the surface but I imagine with a bit of time it's manageable enough. Great video as always. Cheers 😎
Your an Legend.! 🤜🤛
Sadly im on Console, but still everything can be applied.
Learned a lot from you mate.
Keep up the good work, and inspiration to young Sim racer's.
grey, black, blue... perfect camera set up, lighting, textures and styling!
You have truly showed me how to increase my speed, great information, thank you.
Cool to see a paint livery that I designed on the thumbnail of this video!
I was expecting some general tips for some reason, but honestly these are fantastic tips thanks!
I really appreciate these kind of videos! Cheers :D
Glad to hear it mate! Let me know any other topics that you would like covered and I'll do my best.
1:24 is my biggest issue. Brake late to gain on entry and end up losing pace through the corner. Tell myself over and over...easy in = fast out!
(but old habits are hard to brake...lol)
Same.. but i end up braking earlier yet people brake much later than me having better stopping distance...
2ndly.. often found out releasing the brake timing is crutial... I gained alot if able to see where i could release my braking earlier than i usually did on specific corners compared to the other guy
Inspiring video, makes me want to get straight back in the seat.
As always great information it’s like your in my head when I ask that question? I will start working on it. Because I know I can go faster. Thanks I would recommend any to any one take the master class great class and experience you would not regret it.
For me one of the tips that helped me get over the hump was to turn up the tire noise in your game so you can hear where the limit is by listening to the tires. Sometimes the engine noise is to loud you cant hear the tires.
This is great stuff.
I'm just trying to get that last few tenths now from esports level, and those last few tenths are the most frustrating by far because it's so much harder to measure progress
I'd love to see Scott do a MoTec tutorial.
A slower apex may indicate that you are tightening your apex more to have better slowdown and acceleration. That was the case on the example telemetry, both entry and exit were faster than the fast apex more geometric line.
The thing I struggle with is definitely understanding setups and how they affect the car. Coming from F12020/21 where the changes made are simplified at best.
The setup changes on the Williams in IRacing are completely overwhelming and I have no idea how I’ll ever get on top of them on my own. My driving is good but I know, I am being held back a lot. I’m stuck doing hot laps around Hockenheim because apparently the base line setup is perfect for that track, for at least.
I guess hardware as well..everyone says that loadcell pedals, especially the break, making a huge difference.
I've been sim racing on PC since 1995, setups were given away freely by all racers up until recently. Now you have to join a discord or be part of someones patreon or just straight up pay for them.
The community side of sim racing is dying a slow death because of the acceptance of this kind of thing. There is no work other than some time in making a setup in a sim racer. You don't have to rent a track or pay mechanics. You don't have to anything other than click a mouse and run a few laps to see if it worked or not. Anyone who pays for a setup gets exactly what they deserve.
Every one charges for time this isn’t a new thing
@@chiefbrody3406 Trying to charge money for something you supposedly do for fun is a miserable thing to do and absolutely not how things used to be. All the e-begging services available today have poisoned the way people in hobbyist circles interact with each other. Where you used to have people happy to find others with the same interests and happy to share their knowledge and creations, now you get a bunch of cutthroats thinking only about how best to monetize everything they do. Fortunately not everyone is like that, but it is a far cry from the "olden" days.
i'll echo the point about tire degradation. if you get the wear right. you just get faster and faster (comparatively) and don't loose any consistency. even if there are a couple corners you just cant get down perfect, the set-up helps hide some vulnerabilities your competitors are looking to exploit
The most realist Brit right here.. liking all your shit and going to pay for your coaching in the future just based off your real non biased Hamilton ,Verstappen video
Is there any chance you could do a video all about setups? I learned quite a lot about them just in this one already
You should make a video about tire conservation
You should do more videos on car setup
Increasing rake means more oversteer, I get that, but my question is, shifting grip towards the front tires, does that also mean more tire wear for those fronts (and less tire wear for the backs)?
YOU MY NUMBERED MENTOUR, are awesome at videos! N
N explaining.
I need to know about always attempting to run flat out into braking zones like corner one of Bahrain that is a huge breaking zone and into corners 3 or 4 (unsure if this is a chicaine cause it’s pretty open into straight stretch with 2 msg dns.
I was a very elite downhill ski racer(other than my focus RS only thing makes me feel free.)as a racer we were always trying to push it to a hundred.
Is it ok to push it to 70 percent throttle n carry speed out of a s turn (corner two n three)
Also a quick video even a short on
BRAKE BIAS IN COMJUNCTION WIRH DIFFERNTIAL(what does low number do n high number
N how they relate to each other I find myself increasing bias n lowering diff seemed to make car rotate better.
So as car n tires wear down increasing bias decreasing differential seemed to work but I’m in the dark.
A track with long straights stretches, less diff
N curvy track more diff?
All assists off.
Question: Do these tips apply also for Rally driving? and can you make tips for that type as well?
Hi, I ve been watching your vlogs alot. I like your explanation about sim racing that similar in real race. I believe you try ACC, and how you feel about it? Is that sim racing is so similar in real race, since you are a race driver I think you can answer my question. Lastly, can you make content how to set up 911.2 gt3 r, especially in Spa? Thank you very much, I ask a lot of thing.
I never fully understand this guy.Have to rewatch everytime.He is like a math teacher lol
Can you make a how to drive karts video since they have no suspension?
I'm struggling with saving tires.. I usually do endurance races and almost always I have fast pace at the beginning of the race but it rapidly falls as the race progresses
1. Slow down. It doesn't have to be a lot but .5 seconds per lap will do a lot to save your tires for later in the race. Just lift a little before your braking marker and brake early. It doesn't work if you are battling but if you are running a few seconds behind someone and a few seconds ahead of the next car you can safely save your tires. In high speed full throttle corners you would be amazed at what a little bit of a lift can do to save your tires 40 minutes down the road if you do it every lap. It can be just quick lift off/on that is as fast as the blink of an eye and your tires will still benefit from it. A partial lift helps. Just because you CAN take if full throttle it doesn't mean you should.
2. Be smooth, don't jerk the wheel going into a corner and hope for the best. Do some practice laps and find the fastest line that puts the least amount of energy into the tires without slowing you down a lot compared to your normal lap time. When you are in the corner trying to find the point where it's best for lap times and tires to get back on the throttle remember you don't have to immediately slam your foot all the way down. That throttle pedal goes from 0% to 100% and that means you can apply it anywhere in between.
It works for pro drivers in endurance races, it will work for you as well. If you are putting less energy into the tires that correlates to also taking less life (performance) out of the tires with each lap. Smooth and easy driving will keep the life in your tires a lot longer than trying to run qualifying laps for an entire 90+ minute race. You drive at the edge of performance during qualifying and in race only when battling for position. If you are running alone in an endurance race and feel like you are pushing as hard as you can you are way overdriving the car for a long race. Just take it easy and match the lap times. You will learn what you can do to make up time without eating the tires it just takes a lot of time and experience to do it.
Most drivers who start enduro racing after running tons of short sprint type races of 20 laps or 30 minutes kill their tires when they start running 60+ minute races. It's just something there is no easy cure for other than having knowledge of that car on that track and how its going to act 45 minutes into a 60 minute race. There is no replacement for running the laps and trying new lines. Nobody can tell you or show you what to do, you just have to go out and run a 90 minute practice over and over to see how your tires are going to react to how you drive. Then change how you drive and run another 90 minutes and see if your lap times were still decent and how the tires behaved. Then do it again and again.
In my experience most sims changing setup doesn't do a lot to save tires over long distances. It can help if you are burning the rears on corner exit but beyond that it's your driving style that determines tire life. Set the car up how you like it to feel and then adjust your driving style during the race to make the tires go the distance.
Really good vid. I drive almost always aero car like F1 or prototype and i am pretty good of those. My only problem is hairpin corners. I think my mid corner speed is too low and my exit speed also suffer that. I have tryed fix that issue but almost everytime i understeer or different setup i oversteer too much and i ending up loosing time. It is so frustrating becouse my high and mid speed cornerin is almost everytime better than the best times but i lose 1 or 2 tents per lap hairpin corners.
slow corners are often where you find the biggest gap between advanced vs top guys. imo, try to examine the 3 parts to a corner like scott recommended and if indeed the mid corner minimum speed is the issue, then i would play around with rear camber first. if that doesn't help, then adjust the rear toe, then the diff settings. in the end, it may be a combination of all three and perhaps few more chassis alterations as well. as scott mentioned, you want to maximize the work that each tire is doing in all phases of a corner, so understanding which components of your suspension setup comes into play and how your inputs direct chassis balance is critical.
Trail braking can make good gains on slow corners, if you are not doing it already. Takes practice though.
@@wobblyrampack9655 trail braking does help in entry, but only part of the solution...the rest is about traction on throttle, and in a slow corner this translates to massive times--especially at spa for example.
@@dabz3432 Thanks for to good answer 👌 after i get my wheel back for repair i will try play around setups.
@@dabz3432 Excellent points! Yes, slow corners are where time can really be saved for sure.
Scott, so high rake means that the car weight move forward, means more front grip and doesnt understeer?
How the car rotate better in slow medium speed corners: with low rake or high rake? Thank you
as soon as i got out of rookies it got even worse lol in iracing lol always get nailed on a turn by a full send 247
which telemetry that is easy to use would you recommend
I currently have a g920 on assettto and I feel like I’m in the category of driving on “a limit” I’m not the most confident in the feel in my current wheel and are there any tips on how to close this gap until I upgrade?
I just enjoy driving around I don't care about winning I'm just as happy ill come back tho.
Hi I like how you give input about driving fast. Do you have Spa setup for 911 gt3 r 2 2019 in ACC? I am trying to get my best time im ACC 1.7.15 version (newest one), but my best time only 2.18.7. Thx in advance.
4:00 I get what you're getting at with that but that example is terrible as the blue lap is much much quicker.
My thing.
Can you give me some tips for a road course that I built? I have a couple of laps of it on my channel. The AI crush me at 1:36 while I'm lucky to get 1:39. Additionally, the game thinks that the best theoretical time with my *unoptimized* line is 1:33.
I would be using telemetry if Assetto Corsa on Xbox had it lol
Hey Scott
I have a question I think you could answer in the other channel.
What would it take for a EV to win the 24hLM.
Is it even possible? ( Not hydrogen)
Maybe in the pit stops you could change the batteries super fast just like you change the tires...
I'm not saying there should be an endless amount of batteries just waiting to be put on the car.. but maybe you could a have couple of them, and you charge one while you are using the other...
Please give us your thoughts
I've thought about this too, mainly from the angle of, we really need electric endurance racing, its amazing how many revolutionary ideas in our road cars came from motorsport so it would seem appropriate to use the same tactic again in the modern day to push the development forwards.
Inductive charging. So the car will literally be charging while it's driving on track. It would only need to pit for tires.
can we read telemetry data the same as in rally racing?
I'm extremely dumb when it comes to this stuff, it's like how do I KNOW that it's the car understeering? and I'm not simply driving too fast in a sharp corner.
I've mostly raced on defaults my whole life, except for DiRT but then I mostly only changed my steering/FFB settings.
It's a bit tough in a sim since you cannot feel it happening.
Typically you are experiencing understeer if you turn the wheel more but car will not turn more. So you essentially you are drifting off the track.
It's quite easy to feel in rainy conditions when you take a turn too fast. If you play iRacing you can head out on the skid pad and get a feel for it by going in circles and turning the wheel until the car stops turning more. It will help train you for how the game translate that feeling to you.
@@driver61simracing10 Alternatively, games like Assetto Corsa often now have "understeer enhance" which makes the wheel go light as it nears the point of understeer. Super useful stuff
Telemetry app recommendations?
I'm never oversteering in iRacing because it's instant snap to death
I Spat my drink out at 4:45. 36 PSI what on earth XD
I clicked so I guess I must be advanced.
I usually get confused in setups. Especially in acc. I drive the Porsche 911 gt3 r and i have made a setup for my self for SPA FRANCORCHAMPS and I'm okay with that. It's not a bad setup for me in normal 25 degrees. But one day i tried to race online at spa and temperature was really high and i had some problem with tyre pressure and temperature and things like that. Also another day in another track condition i tried two make my own setup better because my own setup wasn't good and i had some understeer.i reduced front ride height by 1mm and the rear by 2mm and reduced rear wing by one click to reduce drag and also i did some confusing works with dampers and car didn't felt good at all. I mean I guess it wasn't much about down force because the car wasn't oversteering so much in POUHON. But after a few laps, it felt really oversteery in RAIDILLON entry and i had some huge oversteers which led to crash. anyway, i think it would be good to explains setups a bit more and see what each setup change does to a car. Especially ride height and dampers. Because for me ride height sometimes does something very unexpected.
By all this knowledge I wonder why he isn't a multiple F1-champion...
Best coaches in sports are often mediocre players who struggled and understood their deficiencies but didn’t have the natural ability to overcome them.
Why is it that when I go into a corner using like 20-30 brake my car oversteers? Finding a lot of oversteering in this game that it becomes undrivable, and its usually cause I'm going too fast into a corner but the guy behind me is carrying way more speed and catches up or takes off even when I'm pushing my car to the limit in some turns.
Quick one. What game are you refering to and what car? Also. Have you tried telemetry? Could be that you are releasing the brakes too quickly and therefore shocking the rear of the car. Telemetry would show you that pretty quickly if you compare yourself to a faster driver.
Even sim racing cost too much if you are disabled and unable to work! I found that no mater what it is, you need lots of MONEY to even get the chance to prove you have natural skills. I thought sim racing would be a way to use my skills but like everything else, it cost too much!
Tip 1: Drive faster but not too fast. :)
half us sim racers race ovals
Why aren't you actually racing cars??
Just getting into iRacing and found this tip tutorial! very well done, great specifics and clarity! Much appreciated. iRacing @Kyle Keyes2
One of your best video's ever !