Can we have a follow up video explaining why you would or wouldn't purchase each shock? Which you felt was best on road, which was best off-road, etc? Thanks!
I actually learned the time these videos were released by the end of the series. Really cool series and a service to all the Tacoma owners out there. Reasonable to remember that a few things (custom valving, rear crossbar and hangers) probably make a huge difference. Adding more variables would also make a near impossible test setup. Thanks for this series it was really cool.
I mean,, can't you adjust the stiffness of the suspension on most of these? Curious as to have they all would preform if they were really 'dialed in' for the best comparison.
Great series, like others have said it would be cool to compare the entry level shocks as well: 5100s, 6112, fox 2.0 etc and perhaps throw in a 2.5” shock to demonstrate how much of an upgrade from an entry level shock it is. Also not entry level at all, but curious how the OME BP51s would have compared in this.
As an owner of king shocks on my 15 tundra for 5 years with no sway bar, I’m proud of them and they are worth money. I might invest in those bilsteins as a second set for when my kings need rebuilding. Thank you for doing this.
this series was excellent, thank you for putting it together. I would love to see another episode where you wrap it all together. I have bought from Overland Outfitters in the past and love their service. I'm actually considering changing my shocks and would appreciate seeing final conclusions or recommendations. Either way great series.
I would love to see another entry in the series with the OME BP-51s. Not sure how that could be done blind but it's also a strong suspension contender.
@@AlexM-np1cxThat's the propoganda certain manufacturers like to tell you. Are you aware that Fox 2.5 and King 2.5 use different piston sizes? Piston size is why they say the BP-51 isn't a true 2.5 There are 2 factors. 1. Surface area for heat to dissipate. This is essentially the external dimensions of the shock. Which BP-51 qualifies as 2.5. 2. Valve area to provide damping. Once you move past the primitive King and Fox 2.5 coilovers designs like the rest of the world has, you realise that there is more damping available than just on the main piston. In the case of the BP-51 this is through the internal bypass valves and also through the compression adjuster mechanism valves. So you take the 51mm piston (which is much larger than a Fox 2.0 piston) valve area, and add the bypass valves area and add the adjuster mechanism valves area.
Thanks guys for doing a real world blind head to head comparison. This is the unbiased content I am always hoping to find so I can get educated on the next product I spend my hard earned money on. You guys rock! M.
I actually have the same kings 2.5 set up and oh my gosh I love them coming from a Leveling kit its night n day!! difference pricy but very worth it to me 🙂
It would be awesome to see you guys test the Ironman 4x4 foam cell pro shocks on the 3rd gen Tacoma. Really curious to see how you guys would compare them to these first 5 brands you’ve tested
It would be cool to see the shocks torn apart now and also see a comparison of the quality of materials. Maybe a future season 2 of shock value? Locked offroad, radflo, toytec, and any others I can't think of.
Great video series, guys! So much useful info, especially to those are in the market for shocks. Keep them coming! Maybe do a series comparing 2” shocks/entry level?
I second that, I had no idea the whole time what shock they were testing… these guys might be awesome for sure but this shock competition is a huge fail for me, the king are clearly junk for leaking on just one test run, and the material is going to rust if you live in the rust belt..
Would be great if you posted a recap video comparing all of them and either in the video or the description touch on anything else done to the truck (including tire and wheel setup). Also if you posted links to the products in the descriptions
Thanks for producing such an informative video. To complete this video, it will be nice to see a review of the Old Man Emu shocks. I am actually leaning toward these for truck I am planning to build and ship to Africa. Why Old Man Emu? The reliability is second to none. Second, they are built for the outback which has a similar climate to Africa. Keep Up The Good Work!
Thank you so much!!! This is very helpful and super smart!!! I really dig both of your channels and really appreciate your knowledge and honesty. I curious about your thoughts on the Ironman Foam Cell Pro 3.0?
I know you said you couldn’t get icons with remote reservoirs. How would that affect the tests? Also, would adjustable dampening on any of these change the results?
Love this video series. Just got confirmation that my Tacoma should be arriving today so I'm super excited to start modifying. Seems like I'm going to be going with the bilsteins though
So the front needs a good replacement UCA like SPC Adjustable for several reasons, and the rear needs a new leaf pack preferably with hammer hangers…also removing sway bar at own risk obviously helps articulation ✌🏽
I’ve got the 4 door bronco badlands with the Sasquatch package and was wondering; do you think there would be a dramatic difference upgrading from the bilstein shocks that come with the Sasquatch package?
Hahahaha let’s goooooo finally. Yes blue is better!!! If you turn the compression up you won’t have that bucking and if you tune them for the truck it feels almost like long travel.
DAMN. So if I were to buy unadjusted shocks it should be 4 or 5 (Bilsteins or Fox). A tad disappointed that the rear Fox shafts showed some oil residue after that test. If anything, maybe I should start looking at adjustable shocks. 🤔
From the footage, looks like it needs to be dialed in a little better. Lacking some Low speed compression, and the front looks like it dives too much. Needs some rebound adjustments, maybe more in the front.
I'm sad at how much better Kings was off the shelf than Fox but honestly not surprised King is taking more time to add the valving the stock suspension needs (Its very King of them🥁) versus Fox just adding whatever tune they think is best. Would've been nice to see the Fox shocks with the DSC adjusters though versus the ones without like you guys ran. I loved this series so much, thank you guys!🤘
Hi all! Nice initiative on the blind testing. Do to my area of off road we do no have speed off-roading as is more of a tropical Island in the Caribbean and is more of mud and sticky clay. Like your thought on the equipment tested if any at all would work for my type of off roading. Thank you in advance. 👍🏻
@@sleeks9939 they did test 8112s in video 4. 8112 front, 8100 rear. The 8100 in the video is the “smooth body” version. The bypass version isn’t mentioned, but performs even better.
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Can we have a follow up video explaining why you would or wouldn't purchase each shock? Which you felt was best on road, which was best off-road, etc? Thanks!
I actually learned the time these videos were released by the end of the series. Really cool series and a service to all the Tacoma owners out there. Reasonable to remember that a few things (custom valving, rear crossbar and hangers) probably make a huge difference. Adding more variables would also make a near impossible test setup. Thanks for this series it was really cool.
Yea hangers make a HUGE difference
I mean,, can't you adjust the stiffness of the suspension on most of these? Curious as to have they all would preform if they were really 'dialed in' for the best comparison.
@@Poxyquotl looks like they got the non adjustable 2.5 shocks to make it a better comparison of all of them straight from the manufacturer
@@Poxyquotl They mentioned in the first video that 99% of shock buyers will never tune them, so they wanted to compare out of the box performance.
@@MrPiimpslap shame you would spend 3k on a suspension and then not take advantage of its features
Great series, like others have said it would be cool to compare the entry level shocks as well: 5100s, 6112, fox 2.0 etc and perhaps throw in a 2.5” shock to demonstrate how much of an upgrade from an entry level shock it is. Also not entry level at all, but curious how the OME BP51s would have compared in this.
Agree! This is where the majority of owners are
Also curious about how the 6112 compares to some of the other close in price options.
As an owner of king shocks on my 15 tundra for 5 years with no sway bar, I’m proud of them and they are worth money. I might invest in those bilsteins as a second set for when my kings need rebuilding. Thank you for doing this.
Did you follow through on it? Do you prefer them?
@@lotrfan911 if youre talking about buying the bilsteins, no im not rich yet
This is the best video series I’ve ever watched very informative
this series was excellent, thank you for putting it together. I would love to see another episode where you wrap it all together. I have bought from Overland Outfitters in the past and love their service. I'm actually considering changing my shocks and would appreciate seeing final conclusions or recommendations. Either way great series.
I would love to see another entry in the series with the OME BP-51s. Not sure how that could be done blind but it's also a strong suspension contender.
I was wishing they included these as well.
They aren’t true 2.5” shocks
@@AlexM-np1cxThat's the propoganda certain manufacturers like to tell you.
Are you aware that Fox 2.5 and King 2.5 use different piston sizes? Piston size is why they say the BP-51 isn't a true 2.5
There are 2 factors. 1. Surface area for heat to dissipate. This is essentially the external dimensions of the shock. Which BP-51 qualifies as 2.5.
2. Valve area to provide damping. Once you move past the primitive King and Fox 2.5 coilovers designs like the rest of the world has, you realise that there is more damping available than just on the main piston. In the case of the BP-51 this is through the internal bypass valves and also through the compression adjuster mechanism valves.
So you take the 51mm piston (which is much larger than a Fox 2.0 piston) valve area, and add the bypass valves area and add the adjuster mechanism valves area.
BPs suck from what I’ve read. Not worth comparing from what I’ve been reading…
Thanks guys for doing a real world blind head to head comparison. This is the unbiased content I am always hoping to find so I can get educated on the next product I spend my hard earned money on.
You guys rock!
M.
I’d love to see how a set of deavers in the rear would help this rig after seeing the rear buck in all the videos
I actually have the same kings 2.5 set up and oh my gosh I love them coming from a Leveling kit its night n day!! difference pricy but very worth it to me 🙂
You should test out the Ironman foam cell pros.
It would be awesome to see you guys test the Ironman 4x4 foam cell pro shocks on the 3rd gen Tacoma. Really curious to see how you guys would compare them to these first 5 brands you’ve tested
Good test, well done. Thanks for doing this.
Have kings on my 16 Silverado and wish I didn’t wait so long before mounting them! Awesome kit for sure.
Great series, I would have liked to have seen the stock Toyota set up compared too.
Awesome series, was on edge if my seat each day waiting for these!
Good testing. It might have been more interesting if the stock shocks were also a trial.
Yeah stock shocks should of been the control or base data
It would be cool to see the shocks torn apart now and also see a comparison of the quality of materials. Maybe a future season 2 of shock value? Locked offroad, radflo, toytec, and any others I can't think of.
The shocks I've been waiting for to review!
Great video series, guys! So much useful info, especially to those are in the market for shocks. Keep them coming! Maybe do a series comparing 2” shocks/entry level?
Will you guys have a recap video where you compile the comparisons and offer siggestions?
I second that, I had no idea the whole time what shock they were testing… these guys might be awesome for sure but this shock competition is a huge fail for me, the king are clearly junk for leaking on just one test run, and the material is going to rust if you live in the rust belt..
Thank you guys for doing these series! I have learned lots of new things!! Please do more of these kinds of series
More of these test. Please. Loved this
I wish I knew what order they were tested, what was best?
Would love to see a list of best to worst knowing what you know now! Great series, can’t wait to see more!
Loved this series! 🤘🇨🇦
no Dobinson MRRs?
Would be great if you posted a recap video comparing all of them and either in the video or the description touch on anything else done to the truck (including tire and wheel setup). Also if you posted links to the products in the descriptions
I am a little disappointed in the review of the bolstein 8112, and fox 2.5’s those were my top two contenders.. lol
They said the 8112 were one of the best ones
They were the best at high speed off-road, no shock will be perfect at everything. Don’t forget you can also revalve all of them to ride better
I'm curious what pound coil those kings have on them. I'm running 700lb coils on my kings but I also have armor and lots of it.
I asked them they said all of them had 600lb coils
Thanks for producing such an informative video. To complete this video, it will be nice to see a review of the Old Man Emu shocks. I am actually leaning toward these for truck I am planning to build and ship to Africa. Why Old Man Emu? The reliability is second to none. Second, they are built for the outback which has a similar climate to Africa. Keep Up The Good Work!
Such a great test series! Thank you!
Thank you so much!!! This is very helpful and super smart!!! I really dig both of your channels and really appreciate your knowledge and honesty. I curious about your thoughts on the Ironman Foam Cell Pro 3.0?
I know you said you couldn’t get icons with remote reservoirs. How would that affect the tests? Also, would adjustable dampening on any of these change the results?
Remote resi would mostly affect how long you can run without overheating the shocks
Love this video series. Just got confirmation that my Tacoma should be arriving today so I'm super excited to start modifying. Seems like I'm going to be going with the bilsteins though
So the front needs a good replacement UCA like SPC Adjustable for several reasons, and the rear needs a new leaf pack preferably with hammer hangers…also removing sway bar at own risk obviously helps articulation ✌🏽
I’ve got the 4 door bronco badlands with the Sasquatch package and was wondering; do you think there would be a dramatic difference upgrading from the bilstein shocks that come with the Sasquatch package?
You guys are awesome. Thank you for doing this!
Hahahaha let’s goooooo finally. Yes blue is better!!! If you turn the compression up you won’t have that bucking and if you tune them for the truck it feels almost like long travel.
Great series good job guys!
Would love to see a vid with the dobinson MRR kit!
awesome series. subscribed.
DAMN. So if I were to buy unadjusted shocks it should be 4 or 5 (Bilsteins or Fox). A tad disappointed that the rear Fox shafts showed some oil residue after that test. If anything, maybe I should start looking at adjustable shocks. 🤔
Fifth test was king not fox. Test one was fox
Whoops. I meant KING. King Shocks. Dammit, Freudian Slip I was thinking about Fox. Meant to say KING. King of Shocks. LoL.
@@OverlandOutfitters And EXCELLENT series. Thanks for doing this.
What is the size of those tires?
The shocks on The table were different then the ones on the truck? So the oil they see is irrelevant?
The shocks on the table were the same ones we used on the truck
From the footage, looks like it needs to be dialed in a little better. Lacking some Low speed compression, and the front looks like it dives too much. Needs some rebound adjustments, maybe more in the front.
Is there any type of lift with those struts or stock height, and what is the wheel set up?
285/70r17 KO2s over method 703
I have Fox 2.5 resi with an add a leaf in therear. Thier sick
Only thing that might make these reviews more helpful is to include the price as tested.
And the what pound coils each shock is has on them.
Can we please see a video from one of you on the falcon adjustables on the jeeps please 🎉
Will ori's be tried in the future?
where is this trail?
Which Method wheels are on that Tacoma?
Looks like 703
Solid review of all the brands. Would of liked to see the BP52’s.
We did all the testing, then all the interviews in the shop, and then revealed all the shocks after. The magic of editing
@@OverlandOutfitters oh ok, I thought you revealed the shocks after each session. I’ll edit my post. 👍🏻
You guys should test a set of radflos!
I appreciate you and this video
I'm sad at how much better Kings was off the shelf than Fox but honestly not surprised King is taking more time to add the valving the stock suspension needs (Its very King of them🥁) versus Fox just adding whatever tune they think is best. Would've been nice to see the Fox shocks with the DSC adjusters though versus the ones without like you guys ran. I loved this series so much, thank you guys!🤘
Would be nice to see the fox performance elite series
They needed a level playing field, and not all the shocks offer a high and low speed adjuster setup.
Y didn't said test tire psi
Trucks while how many lb in back
What your test
This series was bad ass !!!!
great videos!
Hi all! Nice initiative on the blind testing. Do to my area of off road we do no have speed off-roading as is more of a tropical Island in the Caribbean and is more of mud and sticky clay. Like your thought on the equipment tested if any at all would work for my type of off roading. Thank you in advance. 👍🏻
Love this, more please
What’s the tire and wheel specs? Ty
285/70r17 KO2s on Method 703s
The series was great! Thanks! Sub!
Fox tuned from AccuTune!!!!! Can't beat it.
Yes you can, Kings tuned from accutune!
test ironmanfoamcell pro n bp51 sir
What wheels are those?
Method 703 in gloss titanium
@@justinvanbibber6234 thanks
Next up.... More affordable shock comparison!
The last set you knew they were Kings.
Funny that you’re saying Icon is better for off road than King
When did we say that?!?
Awesome videos guys!! I think I'll keep my live axle, much better all around then IFS any day!!
Yeah yeah yeah is all I heard 🤣🤣🤣
Awesome video! Looks like I'm getting kings now. Eibachs ain't it man...
If I learnt anything, Get the bilseins and spend the rest on gas
I wish they tested the Bilstein 8112 or the Dobinsion other then that this was a great series.
@@JamesBerkey and a sway bar 😂
@@sleeks9939 which ones did they test in Shock Value Ep.4? the 8100's?
@@sleeks9939 they did test 8112s in video 4. 8112 front, 8100 rear. The 8100 in the video is the “smooth body” version. The bypass version isn’t mentioned, but performs even better.
Can you test the bilstien rear and kings front or vice versa
all i’ve learned from these is that they all kinda suck in one way or another lol! Wish I could’ve seen the Fox Elite series 2.5s
Eibach , should be in
Sportsbra's 🤣
Loose the word 'ones' after 'these'!
kings are outdated