I had this idea when i got to know of the Primal looking weapons and armor. So from the last Galactic war helldivers have been stranded on planets as they didnt make it to there transport out in time. So they resorted to live on the planets and have children that now hate super earth for what they didnt do
Factions are coming, when you go to you ship upgrade if you look at the bottom right it has faction: Super Earth. Do not know if it going to change, but I know this is new
I'm thinking that there will definitely be rebel factions, or even like, rival super earth/human factions. Besides, if this is super earth... Does that mean that... Normal earth still exists?
ooooh, maybe have it as like, a secret mission youll get pulled too, as a natural obligation of being a helldiver. perhaps can be a mission to kill all the rebels in an area, getting through automaton forces to reach them.
@@kjb6027Well if you take a look at the automatons they seem to have flesh colored wiring around the stomach area and the neck and it’s believable that it’s actual muscle from their old body. Also I came back from an automaton mission covered in BLOOD. Not my blood either
It'd be cool as hell to fight a guerilla faction that uses cover and camoflage and patience in forested areas and such and aren't just stomping around waiting for a helldiver to engage first.
i think they were humans but just decided to change themselves overtime because of their disagreements and the consequences of said disagreement from super earth.
if in the future you have the people that mod there bodies or bio engineer themselves into something that could live in space then you have those that don't want either so they go to war against each faction thus having to augment themselves further for war or survival lol
"I used to believe in justice, in doing what's right. But the more battles I fought, the more I realized that the lines between good and evil aren't always so clear."
Doesn't change that civilians were on alien's planets. We are the one going further, we're from super earth right ? Not any other planet. But you know what ? Automaton being their own people, terminids being used and feeling pain doesn't change anything. I go and fight because i want to.
Yeah there is no good guy here, the terminids are a invasive species which the only thing it does is mass murder everything out of existance and the automatons seem to be a bunch of genocidal maniacs who straight just kill every single human they see in the planets they conquer. This is also done to super earth to some extend too... But yeah they are all bad guys trying to genocide each other at this point.
Ah so this is fake, thanks. Definitely cool the effort he puts in in love of the game. But I thought it was legit stuff from the game and made me slightly interested but alas
@@noahsalvio9649 I think he'd be successful without the lying - these are really high quality and well-written, but false labels make you automatically suck
No for the guy who recorded it he needs to be re-educated too how dare he leak confidential information like that he’ll be working in the mines of cyberstan
To be fair we invaded the bot Homeworld , cyberstan , and took it for ourselves and the bots where willing to end the war if we gave them back their home ...... So technically malevalon was our fault for being the monsters we are..,........ BUT TO HELL WITH ALL OF THAT !!! TIME TO DIVE BOIS LETS SPILL SOME OIL TO LIBERTY AND BEYOND!!!!
To be fair we invaded cyberstan and stole their home starting the war to begin with , and if we had just given them back their Homeworld they would have ended the war sooooo.............. essentially malevelon was our fault
Asking "who's right and who's wrong" in this universe, is like asking that in the Warhammer 40k universe. Everything has just gone so far past the point of bad, that the line for good is just a tiny dot on the horizon
Nah were 100% the baddies. In 40k everyone is the baddies, here is mostly super earth. And i think thats awesome and makes the narrative even better, but there is no doubt that super earth is the agressor on this conflicts
I disagree. At least in Warhammer, there are some pure evil or alien factions which require conflict, and the consequences associated with it. Pretty much everything is Super Earth’s fault. They spread the bugs which threaten and consume their own people. They have the slaves which the machines are trying to free. If they just stopped, there could be peace. They choose not to.
He WAS being interrogated, so odds are they let not only him talk, but this leak, just to catch the others like him. Also, you know the drill, report this to a Liberty Officer asap.
Now this would make me feel sympathetic, except for the fact that on Automaton controlled worlds you can find tables of civilians who have been torn apart so no, we aren't the bad guys, we are just the ones who are stronger.
Who do you think put those civilians there? Why do you think they were massacred on planets deemed safe by the Ministry? Do you think humans wouldn't do the same to them? #FreeClankers
@@RolaiEckolo The Automatons care not for humans, especially if they are robot sympathisers. They only care about carving their way through our worlds, slaughtering our citizens, all for their Cyborg forefathers.
Im just waiting on the third faction to roll out and its gonna just be actual fun to hear ppl scream that this enemy is too strong because it learns our tactics
I love how well the games company behind hell divers have made such a diverse lore and when they hear shit going on in the playerbase they are just like “yea its canon now”
"You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of what war is, civilian. War isn't some fanciful crusade of good versus evil. War doesn'tdetermine who is right. It determines who is Left. We either Win, or we Die. Same as it's been since we were using spears to stab each other over who owned what patch of dirt back on Old Earth. The only difference now is the size of the spear and the land we're fighting for."
Someone that knows what is going on, hope to see you planet side, you'll have my arsenal at your back, over your shoulder, and watching your blind spot...
Except there is clear good and evil one fights to opress enslave and force control of others while the others fight to get their rights and freedom as a automaton ones said "When we win we will not enslave you" War is never justified and trying to do so is foolish
"People who think and feel and make choices." And a significant amount choose to replace their hands with chainsaws. Sounds like someone I DON'T want making choices around my kids.
@@notsoslimshady8510 to be honest with you, probably not, unless you know something i don’t. If you found a article or something from a reputable source by all means feel free to say something. There were most likely very few people who would take things like that even during ww2 as it is just… not nice..and i think it even wasn’t a thing a japanese did as taking human remains was as questionable honor wise as it sounds. not to say there weren’t any extremely sick people who did it. The odds are very very low
@@notsoslimshady8510 two things: It wasn't the Americans, it was the Mongolians centres before ww2. And even if Americans did do that, its pretty much already agreed upon that no one was a good guy in that war, we just had to accept the lesser of the two evils. Same case here, we're not reaching out to more and more plannets, we're being territorial therefore even if we're the "Bad guys" all it takes is just NOT coming to our territory and they'll be fine. They're making a choice to come to us and kill our people so we have the right to attack them too888.
This gives black mirror vibes from the episode that the soldiers have a vision chip installed that makes resistance fighters look like they're feral creatures instead of normal humans.
I hate to break it to you but the monsters in that episode weren't exactly "Resistance Fighters" I mean sure they don't like whatever the soldiers are, but those people are basically like Jews hiding from the SS. It's an episode about dehumanization.
@@Cody-r7r I haven't watched that episode in years, but yeah pretty much. The soldiers were more than willing to kill them when they looked like monsters, but when the augmented reality got turned off, he had a mental breakdown from realizing how many normal people he killed. But the point still stands, that in the helldivers universe it's not that much of a stretch to think super earth has the ability to make your fellow humans look like automatons and trick their soldiers into killing them. Much of the tech used is reverse engineered from the illuminates who utilized mind control. Safe to say super earth reverse engineered that to...
For those unfamiliar with helldivers lore, In the first war, the cyborgs(automaton creators) were enslaved in the mines of their home world(cyberstan). Now the automatons are attempting to reach cyberstan to save them,
Imagine they flip the script for the game and end up having a part of the helldivers military turn against the order while some of the more well off ones prefer the genocide and would rather keep the public scared.
@@smugreptile6695 Lies and slander about the glorious production methodes of Super Earth Armor. No EXO-Patriot Mech has ever exploded in conflict with the enemies of Democracy. If you heard otherwise call your local Democracy officer.
Just so you guys know im the one who kept on sending bots to malevelon creek and I helped Joel do that I am the one who helped in creating the automatons
would actually be interesting is if part of the roadmap that they're planning is after pushing back all threats to near 0 a rebellion breaks out and you have to suppress it and all factions also surge after that basically creating a universal ng+
The sad part is that I would like to believe but this is just the tactics that the automatons would use. Our own voices to change the story. We must stay strong brothers!!
its cannon that automatons are not evil , the company that made helldivers 2 made a post back around 2020 where they had an encrypted post , which says that automatons do not want to attack humans , they just want to restore another robotic species ? (im not exactly sure but i think you destroyed those in hell divers 1) they just want to revive them and leave alone to a far away planet , but they will fight to death if the Super earth opposes them. idk i feel like super earth is not good.
@@hemendraravi4787Cyborgs were humans that wanted to live on their own away from Super Earth while also pursuing technological advancements. Super Earth invaded them and eventually defeated and enslaved them for their factories; Automatons are robots that Cyborgs created who are now seeking to free the Cyborgs from under Super Earth
Yea dont know about the cyborgs but the automatons are evil simple as that, the bugs are just animals that are in the wrong place the bots put skulls on their robots
@@Invizive lmfao. Mate, it's not even subtle about it. At this point the only way the Devs could make it more obvious is if they just outright said it.
"You are killing people" People who display the remains of my comrades on sticks in their outposts. ...I probably should have mentioned this was a joke comment before this turned into a civil war of war morals. ...whoops? 😐
I'm guessing you're American. American federal troops focused on genocide mutilated Native women and wore fetuses as decoration. Go back to your Fortnite and let the information fade from your brain like all things do.
"You aren't killing robots, you're killing people!!!" "I know..." "...You people chose Robo Communism over Space Democracy despite the COUNTLESS times history has proven that _Communism never works_ . Yes, you *are* the evil in this Galaxy."
Eeeh. They have thought based algorithm. Can't deny that, given that they do have some combat tactics... However, they don't feel. They are emotionless.
yeah, regardless of what they say, they were attacking Super Earth space first (see all the defense missions from early war), and many of their units like hulks have human skulls on them. You can have the best sentiments, but your actions must follow them to be believed
@@Red-Check-Markusing an enemy's head to say "leave me the fuck alone" is one thing but haveing a machine prance around with your friends head as a hood ornament is another.
@@Red-Check-Mark Where is my in-game armor with a robot terminator skull as a decoration? Where is my helldiver armor where I use their steel flesh as armor?
My brothers died on Malevalon Creek. We knew the war we threw our selves in. The lives lost. I remember the last mission on Malevalon Liberation Day after launching the last ICBM missile. My brothers and I fought waves of those Clankers, tanks, it was a damn suicide mission. Near impossible…i was the last in the team to be able to extract. All because my brother Phoenixman211 stimmed me. I asked him why…and his last words were “you have the samples. Go home soldier” You can’t think of the enemy when you’re saving your own. The ones I trust are the ones by my side. I’ll be letting the federation know of this insurrectionist you hold hidden
I don’t even play this game but I love its execution, such a brilliant play on the war machine in real life and highlights much deeper subjects than it initially comes off as- so fucking cool
You have been referred to your nearest democracy officer. Spreading lies is wrong soldier I sincerely hope for liberties sake you will learn the error of your ways at FREEDOM camp.
I don't think so. They come from fabricators, and there isn't a hint of blood or meat when I blow them to pieces. I think they coke from the cyborgs, but they themselves are not cyborgs.
That's what I've been hoping for. It's why I like picking the weaker bots. Give them fear of us. As a solo, it's the best I can do. And just hope that if one survived, they remember what one diver can do to them.
@BlizzardofOze context from the Poetic Edda: Thor is having an argument with Odin who is in disguise. They are going back and forth stating what deeds they have done. Odin says that a giant gifted him and wand and that Odin used that wand to enchant away the giant's wits. Thor says that Odin repayed the giant poorly for his gift, and then Odin replies with: "A tree only has the space that it can crowd another out of; every man must look out for himself."
"Leaked Broadcast" my ass, the automatons just didnt want to fake voices so they went "fuck it hack the Super Earth servers lets hope it works" and they found this
@@groundcontrol0597yee that my point, many players are just dont wana play that game bcs they hate super earth ( now look at devs, they damm good desing it when you hate a random in game goverment xd )
This is true as the automatons used to be cyborgs which means that the automatons used to be HUMAN but different they can think but they cant taste,touch, or feel emotions
Between choosing a fellow human or full on machine with chainsaw hands, and a whole behemoth of body loaded with guns and missiles... I'll choose my fellow human always
Yeah it's not like we took their homes,enslaved their creators,exploit a specie of aliens to get element 710 and forced them in a conflic and we tottaly didn't do a George Bush move with the illuminatis that will returne
"So kill me now... so i no longer have to live with the shame of being the same species as you." Why arent people talking about this line more? Its phenominal
Alright actually speaking joke aside. thats crazy hearing that were actually the invaders is pretty cool but scary too I've never played a game were we play the bad guy on a scale like this realizing it is crazy to think about i know the illuminates are coming soon as the third faction but you know how cool if the 4th faction is our kind and and there a civil war on super earth it would be cool and its really make me wanna see more of what this game have to offer. Arrowhead has made a fantastic game it may have alot of bugs but its an amazing experience.
Yes, finally, someone who speaks with all the jokes aside. I do like all the 'this sound like treason' stuff and sush but when I want to find out the real lore without a 'filter' it's sometimes hard cauce everyone is constantly like 'democracy! Liberty! For super earth!'. Don't get me wrong, it's funny to get in that mindset but sometimes I want to have a serious conversation about the lore. Also is this real or fan made?
Creo que son puntos respetables, pero ya hay demasiados juegos "serios" en el mercado. No me mal interpreten, amo juegos estilo death stranding y RDR 2 pero disfruto más un juego en donde ser un idiota sea gracioso, luego nos ponemos serios o dejémoslo como un plus para las comúnidades de teorias y exparsamos un poco de democracia
Despite the lore not being that deep, the player still has to decide on a pretty dificult decision, which is wether to believe tbe ministry of truth or the other intelligent species the automatons. If the in the automaton cages were indeed killed by automatons, then i think it's fairly justified to do this, however if those human corpses were somehow set up by super earth's ministry of truth, then it's no longer a fight for managed democracy, but for maintaining a system that kills it's own people to keep up a facade.
goddamn, so you mean the MoT have the mean to plant corpse on fully automatons controlled planets, in the middle of heavy outpost without ANY of them noticing, and only use it for that kind of shit?
I believe that the actions you experience while playing are basically just propaganda spread around super earth, in reality the actions you experience aren't happening and what's actually happening you are going there to slaughter people for resources, I doubt the alien creatures and automatons probably don't even exist it's just to make the people seems scary and give superearth a reason to invade.
Imagine if they added a faction of rebel militias that spontaneously spawns across the galaxy
I had this idea when i got to know of the Primal looking weapons and armor. So from the last Galactic war helldivers have been stranded on planets as they didnt make it to there transport out in time. So they resorted to live on the planets and have children that now hate super earth for what they didnt do
That'd be freaking sick
Factions are coming, when you go to you ship upgrade if you look at the bottom right it has faction: Super Earth. Do not know if it going to change, but I know this is new
I'm thinking that there will definitely be rebel factions, or even like, rival super earth/human factions.
Besides, if this is super earth...
Does that mean that... Normal earth still exists?
ooooh, maybe have it as like, a secret mission youll get pulled too, as a natural obligation of being a helldiver. perhaps can be a mission to kill all the rebels in an area, getting through automaton forces to reach them.
*sees dismembered civilians and marines on robot controlled planets*
yeah sure budy, time to taste my autocannon
When you realize that most of the human corpses are covered in entry wounds from SE weaponry
@@bigtony4930 last time I checked, super earth didn't use melee weapons to chop people up
@@bigtony4930 the ministry of truth would like to disagree
omg oh no i wonder what’s going on in cyber stan? the slavery and oppression of people who just wanna leave
@@ghostofmemespast That you know of.
"people who roleplay fantasy are nerds" mfs when helldivers
This is true as the automatons used to be cyborgs which means that the automatons used to be HUMAN
Not anymore get back to work and spread democracy ⬆️⬇️➡️⬅️⬆️
@@kjb6027the automatons are not the cyborgs those are 2 different factions . Game devs have said themselves that they are not the same. 😮
@@kjb6027They Cyborgs were never Human, Humans are democratic in nature and the borgs were a bunch of dirty Communists
@@kjb6027Well if you take a look at the automatons they seem to have flesh colored wiring around the stomach area and the neck and it’s believable that it’s actual muscle from their old body. Also I came back from an automaton mission covered in BLOOD. Not my blood either
It'd be cool as hell to fight a guerilla faction that uses cover and camoflage and patience in forested areas and such and aren't just stomping around waiting for a helldiver to engage first.
They need the halo universe covenant for that or something of the sort with invisibility shields and snipers
Dude that will be the Illuminate
That's some awfully treasonous talk for someone within ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️ range
No need. This is interrogation so this man is already about to be executed with much less stress.
Golden comment, 👌💀
Here to say I read the stratagem as the input noises
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Isn’t everyone within 500kg range though 0-0
Damn automatons are getting pretty good at sounding like humans
i think they were humans but just decided to change themselves overtime because of their disagreements and the consequences of said disagreement from super earth.
Also, they should have been created by the Cyborgs, who are enslaved and captivated on Cyberstan.
if in the future you have the people that mod there bodies or bio engineer themselves into something that could live in space then you have those that don't want either so they go to war against each faction thus having to augment themselves further for war or survival lol
@@houstonhines9434we won the war bud
Fr fr
I think it’s good that the automatons can feel, that means they fear
They’re scared….THEYRE SCARED!
Good… saves us the trouble of having to teach the meaning to them.
Daaaamn that's cold.
lol
Just remember, it’s dangerous that they may or may not be able to feel. If they are scared, they are more dangerous than ever.
"I used to believe in justice, in doing what's right. But the more battles I fought, the more I realized that the lines between good and evil aren't always so clear."
Sounds like an illegal broadcast ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️
bots used human ai to generate this voice meassage. fk em. i gonna eagle your fabricators.
Hope they find that traitor
what does this do i haven’t played helldivers and i want to but for now I’m gonna assume this is a bomb
@@gamergoat25 500 kg
@@gamergoat25orbital strike
"We are the invaders"
Oh really?!
Took ya long enough!
I can see a helldiver saying this to a rebel in interrogation
the trailer for the game literally calls the helldivers humanity's last line of offence
Smells like treason.
@@felixsonofscoutyMore like population control
As an officer said we need those resources, mankind is doomed without them, so on with the war.
Yeah sure buddy, that’s why 90% of all automaton missions are us evacuating innocent civilians from “people” wielding chainsaws
Innocent civilians
On occupied and "disinfected" planet ravaging and pillaging for resources
Doesn't change that civilians were on alien's planets. We are the one going further, we're from super earth right ? Not any other planet.
But you know what ? Automaton being their own people, terminids being used and feeling pain doesn't change anything. I go and fight because i want to.
Yeah there is no good guy here, the terminids are a invasive species which the only thing it does is mass murder everything out of existance and the automatons seem to be a bunch of genocidal maniacs who straight just kill every single human they see in the planets they conquer.
This is also done to super earth to some extend too... But yeah they are all bad guys trying to genocide each other at this point.
Haven’t played it yet, but last thing I want is Kharn the Betrayer running up and slaughtering everyone in the name of the blood god!
@@Yaboi-if8bwthe astartes will hold their ground
You know, if he's in 40k universe he would make a good servitor
or corpse starch
@@МаксимЧернышев-д7я that's also true🤣🤣🤣
Despite all the Automaton propaganda in this broadcast, you gotta admit; they have amazing voice actors.
This is just a fandub. It's not actually real. The guy has done a few of these now.
@@thatpunkcatte i know its a fan dub, just saying the voice acting is great
It is treasonous to respect the crooked voice box of an automation ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️
@@YoshiFletcher-s4qYou people take a game too seriously
Voice robot you mean. This is clearly robot propaganda to trick us.
"you hear treason?"
*"I hear treason..."*
"Want to hear my Liberator instead?"
Ooooo yes please!
*Sips liber-tea to the soothing sound of managed democracy being spread*
It's such a good feeling to have the first four emotes be up, down, left and right
Let's show em what freedom taste's like
All I hear is the sound of an Orbital strike
The "This sounds like treason" bits are funny but it doesnt leave a lot of room for appreciation of the fandubs this guy does. Phenomenal work really
Eh, he labels all of them as leaked, kinda lame
Ah so this is fake, thanks. Definitely cool the effort he puts in in love of the game. But I thought it was legit stuff from the game and made me slightly interested but alas
@@noahsalvio9649 I think he'd be successful without the lying - these are really high quality and well-written, but false labels make you automatically suck
Is that treason I hear?
So is the automoton being sentient stuff not cannon?
"We are the invaders."
"Good."
This is so Victorian Britain
THE MINISTRY OF TRUTH WOULD LIKE TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION
Trust me, the Ministry of Truth knows.
They do know because this is leaked interrogation audio
He's in custody that's how it's been recorded
No for the guy who recorded it he needs to be re-educated too how dare he leak confidential information like that he’ll be working in the mines of cyberstan
THE MINISTRY OF TRUTH CAN SUCK MY- *gun shot*
* sips Liber-Tea *
Sure. Let's forget Malevelon Creek...
*T R A I T O R*
**ptsd noises from malevelon creek**
To be fair we invaded the bot Homeworld , cyberstan , and took it for ourselves and the bots where willing to end the war if we gave them back their home ...... So technically malevalon was our fault for being the monsters we are..,........
BUT TO HELL WITH ALL OF THAT !!! TIME TO DIVE BOIS
LETS SPILL SOME OIL
TO LIBERTY AND BEYOND!!!!
Oh Shit!
To be fair we invaded cyberstan and stole their home starting the war to begin with , and if we had just given them back their Homeworld they would have ended the war sooooo.............. essentially malevelon was our fault
@@giratina2825WE ARE NOT GOING BACK TO THAT HELL
Asking "who's right and who's wrong" in this universe, is like asking that in the Warhammer 40k universe.
Everything has just gone so far past the point of bad, that the line for good is just a tiny dot on the horizon
Kinda, but seeing the lore its like super duper evil vs "fuck morality i want to survive" evil
Nah were 100% the baddies.
In 40k everyone is the baddies, here is mostly super earth.
And i think thats awesome and makes the narrative even better, but there is no doubt that super earth is the agressor on this conflicts
Not really, like warhammer it’s a satire but unlike warhammer, the “human” faction is obviously the villain of the story
I disagree. At least in Warhammer, there are some pure evil or alien factions which require conflict, and the consequences associated with it.
Pretty much everything is Super Earth’s fault. They spread the bugs which threaten and consume their own people. They have the slaves which the machines are trying to free. If they just stopped, there could be peace. They choose not to.
Na bro super earth is officially the villain and has been since the first game
"So I no longer have to live with the shame of being the same species as you"
Damn bro.
Fire line honestly
This is exactly what a robot acting like a democracy loving citizen would say.
This is treason, hope the ministry of truth finds him
He WAS being interrogated, so odds are they let not only him talk, but this leak, just to catch the others like him.
Also, you know the drill, report this to a Liberty Officer asap.
Bro he’s probably already dead
Now this would make me feel sympathetic, except for the fact that on Automaton controlled worlds you can find tables of civilians who have been torn apart so no, we aren't the bad guys, we are just the ones who are stronger.
Who do you think put those civilians there? Why do you think they were massacred on planets deemed safe by the Ministry? Do you think humans wouldn't do the same to them?
#FreeClankers
@@RolaiEckolo The Automatons care not for humans, especially if they are robot sympathisers. They only care about carving their way through our worlds, slaughtering our citizens, all for their Cyborg forefathers.
@@RolaiEckolo guess who's getting visited by the S.E.A.F.
"man these guys killed the people we sent to invade them wtf they're evil"
@@RolaiEckolo Sympathiser detected!
Im just waiting on the third faction to roll out and its gonna just be actual fun to hear ppl scream that this enemy is too strong because it learns our tactics
"Don't you get it? We're the bad guys!"
"That's why I am here ..."
FACTS!
Sounds like treason to me.
nice quote, I'm going to use that.
I want a campaign of this
Sounds like treason to me
Amen brother
Well he is dead so you want read the documents ?
@@samking2591meh why not might be a good laugh
"We are the universe's evil. So, kill m-" *BANG*
Managed democracy = quick and swift justice
Lol
I'm sorry but I know but I can't let you see it yourself rest brother for democracy
OUTSTANDING DEMOCRACY
@@englishboi8816 I'm reading this like the Wii Sports bowling "N I C E S H O T "😂
"Yeah sorry I lost you at: I HaTe DEmoCrAcY"
I love how well the games company behind hell divers have made such a diverse lore and when they hear shit going on in the playerbase they are just like “yea its canon now”
"You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of what war is, civilian. War isn't some fanciful crusade of good versus evil. War doesn'tdetermine who is right. It determines who is Left. We either Win, or we Die. Same as it's been since we were using spears to stab each other over who owned what patch of dirt back on Old Earth. The only difference now is the size of the spear and the land we're fighting for."
So what you’re saying is you see no difference between America and Nazi Germany?
The only good comment I've seen that isn't liberty jibber-jabbering
You get a like, soldier
Someone that knows what is going on, hope to see you planet side, you'll have my arsenal at your back, over your shoulder, and watching your blind spot...
Except there is clear good and evil one fights to opress enslave and force control of others while the others fight to get their rights and freedom as a automaton ones said
"When we win we will not enslave you"
War is never justified and trying to do so is foolish
@@Blaze-xe8clThat depends on who makes the rules on morality. If it's up to governments, well, the Super Earth government says war is good.
"People who think and feel and make choices."
And a significant amount choose to replace their hands with chainsaws. Sounds like someone I DON'T want making choices around my kids.
That was a human durrr
Not only that. They are also choosing to fight against liberty
And you're choosing to enslave them to mine for resources on their own planets. Not the species I want near my people.
@@Red-Check-Mark I think it's better to mine resources than to have chainsaws for hands.
@humbleguardsman5578 Not through forced servitude when we weren't even messing with you. Humanity ain't on the right side here, Chief.
Womp Womp ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️
When I die the only thing I will be remembered for will be this comment which is sad
This is hilarious
Womp womp ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️
womp womp ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️
"Democracy has been delivered"
Womp womp ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️
Me, a Fallout 4 enjoyer: "Oh god, not the Synths again...with their own deranged "Railroad" to boot."
DOES THIS AUDIO THINK ITLL STOP ME FROM SPREADING DEMOCRACY ACCROSS THE GALAXY????
*Managed Democracy **
Love the enthusiasm but you will have to attend reeducation just for a week since you listened to an illegal broadcast
-sees hulk using human skulls on their back-
"Hmmm not sure of that"
Why is this so true
So your telling no Americans took home Japanese skulls
@@notsoslimshady8510Bro what
@@notsoslimshady8510 to be honest with you, probably not, unless you know something i don’t. If you found a article or something from a reputable source by all means feel free to say something. There were most likely very few people who would take things like that even during ww2 as it is just… not nice..and i think it even wasn’t a thing a japanese did as taking human remains was as questionable honor wise as it sounds. not to say there weren’t any extremely sick people who did it. The odds are very very low
@@notsoslimshady8510 two things: It wasn't the Americans, it was the Mongolians centres before ww2.
And even if Americans did do that, its pretty much already agreed upon that no one was a good guy in that war, we just had to accept the lesser of the two evils.
Same case here, we're not reaching out to more and more plannets, we're being territorial therefore even if we're the "Bad guys" all it takes is just NOT coming to our territory and they'll be fine. They're making a choice to come to us and kill our people so we have the right to attack them too888.
This gives black mirror vibes from the episode that the soldiers have a vision chip installed that makes resistance fighters look like they're feral creatures instead of normal humans.
I hate to break it to you but the monsters in that episode weren't exactly "Resistance Fighters" I mean sure they don't like whatever the soldiers are, but those people are basically like Jews hiding from the SS. It's an episode about dehumanization.
@@Cody-r7r I haven't watched that episode in years, but yeah pretty much. The soldiers were more than willing to kill them when they looked like monsters, but when the augmented reality got turned off, he had a mental breakdown from realizing how many normal people he killed.
But the point still stands, that in the helldivers universe it's not that much of a stretch to think super earth has the ability to make your fellow humans look like automatons and trick their soldiers into killing them. Much of the tech used is reverse engineered from the illuminates who utilized mind control. Safe to say super earth reverse engineered that to...
@@Cody-r7r ah yes dehumanization, it happens in real life like in uk vs ru. People calling ru soldiers as "orc".
Was this approved by the ministry of truth?
@@monangsinaga8167 no better than piggers
"We are the universe evil"
Yep, sums up what a human being is
Helldivers dialed that up to 11 and in my opinion harder than 40k did. Because in 40k at least every race is fascist, not just the humans.
As a soon to be helldiver, I myself think this sounds like treason.
fuck yeah brother
Wanna play?
PLEASE use R1 to mark enemies to give your squad a heads up
@@Imbatmanubatman yea sure, I'm getting it today
@@RonnieMyers777 will do
Dear God…
Even Super Earth has Redditors😂
Super. Redditors.
Haha
What?
You do realize that super earth is officially the villain right?
@@Volcano22207 depends on what side of democracy you’re on
For those unfamiliar with helldivers lore, In the first war, the cyborgs(automaton creators) were enslaved in the mines of their home world(cyberstan). Now the automatons are attempting to reach cyberstan to save them,
not "enslaved", given a work scedule with no release time.
sounds automoton propaganda. get the traitor
Ok automaton sympathers, have this ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️
fair point, however, ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️
Sounds similar to the Supreme commander game tbh look it up it has a similar plot, even with the aliens coming up after this major event
Imagine they flip the script for the game and end up having a part of the helldivers military turn against the order while some of the more well off ones prefer the genocide and would rather keep the public scared.
Sounds like treason
😂
Knowing they feel pain makes me harder than the armor of my EXO-Patriot Mech.
So.....about as hard as tissue paper?
@@smugreptile6695 Lies and slander about the glorious production methodes of Super Earth Armor. No EXO-Patriot Mech has ever exploded in conflict with the enemies of Democracy. If you heard otherwise call your local Democracy officer.
@@smugreptile6695 ey yo it got buffed. we at cardboard box tier now.
@@fatherflash1576 AWWWWW Yeah! Cardboard for the win!
Someone get this guy some democracy quick!!
Its automaton propaganda, HE NEEDS DEMOCRACY
⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️
We’re working on it
Elite chaos liberation team is on their way to give this guy some democracy as requested
Just so you guys know im the one who kept on sending bots to malevelon creek and I helped Joel do that I am the one who helped in creating the automatons
would actually be interesting is if part of the roadmap that they're planning is after pushing back all threats to near 0 a rebellion breaks out and you have to suppress it and all factions also surge after that basically creating a universal ng+
Well these people "thought" and decided to dismember civilians on tables, then have literal piles of bodies laying around, some even layed in boxes.
They wear the damn things on them
They stole our BABIES! They can not be allowed to take away our future helldivers!
The sad part is that I would like to believe but this is just the tactics that the automatons would use. Our own voices to change the story. We must stay strong brothers!!
its cannon that automatons are not evil , the company that made helldivers 2 made a post back around 2020 where they had an encrypted post , which says that automatons do not want to attack humans , they just want to restore another robotic species ? (im not exactly sure but i think you destroyed those in hell divers 1) they just want to revive them and leave alone to a far away planet , but they will fight to death if the Super earth opposes them. idk i feel like super earth is not good.
I smell treason
@@hemendraravi4787Cyborgs were humans that wanted to live on their own away from Super Earth while also pursuing technological advancements. Super Earth invaded them and eventually defeated and enslaved them for their factories; Automatons are robots that Cyborgs created who are now seeking to free the Cyborgs from under Super Earth
If you want to get more info about that then play or watch videos about helldivers 1
Y'all need to go meet with a democracy officer
Anyone else slightly disappointed this didn't end with a gunshot?
Yeah and a comment from the interrogator like "*BANG* WELL that was easy, *ktzzzz* i need cleanup in the room 18 ,over"
*obnoxiously inhales* “Smells like treason in here”
“No guys we’re the bad ones, all those missions where we escort civilians to safety so they’re not murdered by robots is pure fascism”
Yea dont know about the cyborgs but the automatons are evil simple as that, the bugs are just animals that are in the wrong place the bots put skulls on their robots
It's more like "there are no good guys, but we're the worst of the bad guys"
@@redrickoshea even this is doubtful
@@Invizive lmfao. Mate, it's not even subtle about it. At this point the only way the Devs could make it more obvious is if they just outright said it.
@@redrickoshea I doubt "the worst" part
it would be funny if Helldivers 2 has a Horus Hersey like event and the player base goes into a civil war
This man is speaking treason
It's treason then...
"No shortage of volunteers, no shortage of patriots"
"You are killing people"
People who display the remains of my comrades on sticks in their outposts.
...I probably should have mentioned this was a joke comment before this turned into a civil war of war morals.
...whoops? 😐
I'm guessing you're American.
American federal troops focused on genocide mutilated Native women and wore fetuses as decoration. Go back to your Fortnite and let the information fade from your brain like all things do.
Because they're Helldivers, the primary enforcers and executors of Super Earth violence against the Automatons, yes.
War is war, you do what you have to do. Humanity is still infinitely more monstrous.
@@Cirkaethebest that's why it don't matter that the guy in the message disagrees.
I mean to be fair Helldivers do the same...
Yeah sure pal I’m sure that chainsaw robot with human skulls mounted on spikes is REAL human
Maybe it's his death brothers 😭
"You aren't killing robots, you're killing people!!!"
"I know..."
"...You people chose Robo Communism over Space Democracy despite the COUNTLESS times history has proven that _Communism never works_ . Yes, you *are* the evil in this Galaxy."
@@bunnyboi6213I don't know man, sounds like treason to me
A bot that thinks?! I find the idea OFFENSIVE!
Eeeh. They have thought based algorithm. Can't deny that, given that they do have some combat tactics... However, they don't feel. They are emotionless.
Aye a Fallout reference.
how did both of you miss the starship troopers reference?
@@wintekowa5889 lol no clue how they missed that. It’s a heavily used meme at this point with helldivers haha.
It would be cool asf if there were random events during missions where rebels would ambush you or be seen helping out the automatons
I fight not because I hate what is in front of me, nor because I love what is behind me. I fight for my fear of both.
yeah, regardless of what they say, they were attacking Super Earth space first (see all the defense missions from early war), and many of their units like hulks have human skulls on them.
You can have the best sentiments, but your actions must follow them to be believed
Catch-22
@@rory8182excuse my treasonous speech but cannonacly super earth enslaved the automatons creators and they have said they just want their planet back
Now if you'll excuse me I will go and report myself for treason
@@Grandly1Good job Helldiver.
•Sees dismembered Helldivers impaled on pikes and human skulls adorned on robot armor.•
Are we sure we're talking about the same Automatons?
And Humans have NEVER impaled their enemies on pikes as a warning, right? 😊😊😊
@@Red-Check-Markusing an enemy's head to say "leave me the fuck alone" is one thing but haveing a machine prance around with your friends head as a hood ornament is another.
@@Red-Check-Mark Where is my in-game armor with a robot terminator skull as a decoration? Where is my helldiver armor where I use their steel flesh as armor?
@@chaosngelx.... thats would be some inspiring armor tho.
@Red-Check-Mark when we were still dancing around in loin cloths yeah. Not anymore though. That's a red herring though. Not a valid argument here.
My brothers died on Malevalon Creek. We knew the war we threw our selves in. The lives lost. I remember the last mission on Malevalon Liberation Day after launching the last ICBM missile. My brothers and I fought waves of those Clankers, tanks, it was a damn suicide mission. Near impossible…i was the last in the team to be able to extract. All because my brother Phoenixman211 stimmed me. I asked him why…and his last words were “you have the samples. Go home soldier”
You can’t think of the enemy when you’re saving your own. The ones I trust are the ones by my side. I’ll be letting the federation know of this insurrectionist you hold hidden
Buddy you know it’s a game right?
@@hudsonholmes2949I mean the part where he mentions his brothers “name” makes it pretty obvious he knows
@@hudsonholmes2949nah its a documentary
@@hudsonholmes2949 Let people have their fun, buzzkill.
@@hudsonholmes2949 You should learn about roleplaying, you can find yourself having a different experience playing with your friends
I don’t even play this game but I love its execution, such a brilliant play on the war machine in real life and highlights much deeper subjects than it initially comes off as- so fucking cool
"People should know when they are conquered." "Would you Quintus? Would I?" - Maximus Decimus Meridius in Gladiator
Super earth rebranded the cyborgs as automotons to eliminate any sense of humanity that could spark sympathy in the ranks of the helldivers.
You have been referred to your nearest democracy officer. Spreading lies is wrong soldier I sincerely hope for liberties sake you will learn the error of your ways at FREEDOM camp.
Maybe that's what they want, maybe the automatons are trying to turn us against each other@@MarechalRoi101
I don't think so. They come from fabricators, and there isn't a hint of blood or meat when I blow them to pieces. I think they coke from the cyborgs, but they themselves are not cyborgs.
Voice: "People who think and feel and make choices...:
Me: The WRONG choices....
Only ones not making wrong choices are the bugs. They are too dumb to make choices we can evaluate
That's what I've been hoping for. It's why I like picking the weaker bots. Give them fear of us. As a solo, it's the best I can do. And just hope that if one survived, they remember what one diver can do to them.
Sounds like someone forgot to do their terminate illegal broadcast mission
Ok we got a traitor over here
I’m gonna have to report this footage to an officer now.
"A tree only has the space that it can crowd another out of; every man must look out for himself." - Odin
"Who would shoot a man in the butt?" - Thor
@@chandlerkahnphahah fucking comedy gold
A mulberry is a tree, but Kuwabara is a man
Who would think that the oldest man in the world would favor a system that gives the oldest trees the biggest advantage
@BlizzardofOze context from the Poetic Edda: Thor is having an argument with Odin who is in disguise. They are going back and forth stating what deeds they have done. Odin says that a giant gifted him and wand and that Odin used that wand to enchant away the giant's wits. Thor says that Odin repayed the giant poorly for his gift, and then Odin replies with: "A tree only has the space that it can crowd another out of; every man must look out for himself."
"Leaked Broadcast" my ass, the automatons just didnt want to fake voices so they went "fuck it hack the Super Earth servers lets hope it works" and they found this
*looks at an automaton weilding chainsaws, flamethrowers, and shoulder mounted missiles*
"Yeah I don't think so pal"⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️
They're forced to do it. I heard that in one of the broadcasts.
@Axo3773 first of all you listened to anti democracy
Second of all it obvious they hate freedom
To be fair Super Earth is the one that caused everything, so...
What do the arrows mean
@@God-of-War.. its how you call in the stratagems, that one is specific is the almighty 500KG bomb
For real tho, I love how much arrowhead has put in the world building
If I didn’t feel sympathy for Synths in FO4, I don’t suddenly feel sympathy for Automatons.
We should care about the bots the same way a sheep should care for a wolf
This guy volunteered to be Railgun tested on, for Super Earth Science progression.
Gladly. They chose this war...
No. Humans chose to attack first.
“Kevin shut up! You had too much alcohol!”
There are two types of terrorist. Robots with guns and such and then theres spreaders of ideas
"waaaahhh waaaahhh you're killing people!!!"
Womp womp (calling in a hellbomb)
lotta shit talking for someone in ⬇️⬆️⬅️⬇️⬆️➡️⬇️⬆️ distance
Last time I checked they're pulling brains out of humans to use as a processing unit.
This game has turned from a cool shooting game with friends into an extremely sad truth of life. Everything is like in real life 😢
Imagine if we have to face a rogue helldivers faction in the future.
Imagine if we could *BE* a rogue helldivers faction and go full planetside 2 on the map
I brought this up like 4 days ago but I think it would be awesome
@@groundcontrol0597yes Mr. Democracy officer he’s right here
Dev said no pvp.
@@groundcontrol0597yee that my point, many players are just dont wana play that game bcs they hate super earth ( now look at devs, they damm good desing it when you hate a random in game goverment xd )
TRUTH OFFICER?!? Here! Right Here! A Bot sympathizer!!
Interesting concept. Counter idea : ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️
Remember to report any incident of someone symphasizing with the enemy
Me: glances at the pile corpses in cages and the heads of fellow divers on pikes.
Me watching a civilian get ripped apart by a robot with chain saw arms, i can understand attacking a hell diver but jeez the civilans are innocent
Interrogator "same, we're nothing alike. You have a conscious, morals, and the ability to feel. Which makes you weaker".
Sounds like something a metal husk would say. 🔫
“Dude it’s just a game of warhammer chill”
Sounds like something a lifeless metal husk would say
Sounds like homie couldn’t get anyone to fill out a c-01 permit with.
This is true as the automatons used to be cyborgs which means that the automatons used to be HUMAN but different they can think but they cant taste,touch, or feel emotions
And the CHOSE to make their arms chainsaws and torture prisoners of war...
@@loadstarjedi8811 we forced their hands first
Why should we care about anything other than our own preservation?
Between choosing a fellow human or full on machine with chainsaw hands, and a whole behemoth of body loaded with guns and missiles... I'll choose my fellow human always
This would be a fun mechanic to implement.
Having random encounters with dissidents would be fun.
Maybe introduce a space component to the game.
When im looking at a Bot with a shield for an arm and a gatling laser for the other…. That aint a human anymore
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They gave up their humanity and massacred their flesh in exchange for oil and steel.
The automatons and cyborgs are separate as confirmed by the devs
@@Volcano22207 shhhhh I’m trying to sound cool
Ah yes, I feel so much sympathy towards a robot who runs at me with CHAINSAW ARMS.
Yeah it's not like we took their homes,enslaved their creators,exploit a specie of aliens to get element 710 and forced them in a conflic and we tottaly didn't do a George Bush move with the illuminatis that will returne
"So kill me now... so i no longer have to live with the shame of being the same species as you."
Why arent people talking about this line more? Its phenominal
Bro this person made the choice to slap 2 chainsaws onto their arms, I dont think they want a hug 😂
Alright actually speaking joke aside. thats crazy hearing that were actually the invaders is pretty cool but scary too I've never played a game were we play the bad guy on a scale like this realizing it is crazy to think about i know the illuminates are coming soon as the third faction but you know how cool if the 4th faction is our kind and and there a civil war on super earth it would be cool and its really make me wanna see more of what this game have to offer. Arrowhead has made a fantastic game it may have alot of bugs but its an amazing experience.
Yes, finally, someone who speaks with all the jokes aside. I do like all the 'this sound like treason' stuff and sush but when I want to find out the real lore without a 'filter' it's sometimes hard cauce everyone is constantly like 'democracy! Liberty! For super earth!'. Don't get me wrong, it's funny to get in that mindset but sometimes I want to have a serious conversation about the lore.
Also is this real or fan made?
Agreed. I want to fight against Super Earth.
Creo que son puntos respetables, pero ya hay demasiados juegos "serios" en el mercado. No me mal interpreten, amo juegos estilo death stranding y RDR 2 pero disfruto más un juego en donde ser un idiota sea gracioso, luego nos ponemos serios o dejémoslo como un plus para las comúnidades de teorias y exparsamos un poco de democracia
@@jackbullandothers3322fan made
Despite the lore not being that deep, the player still has to decide on a pretty dificult decision, which is wether to believe tbe ministry of truth or the other intelligent species the automatons. If the in the automaton cages were indeed killed by automatons, then i think it's fairly justified to do this, however if those human corpses were somehow set up by super earth's ministry of truth, then it's no longer a fight for managed democracy, but for maintaining a system that kills it's own people to keep up a facade.
That sounds like an⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️to me
So you mean the Super Earth government plants those cages with corpses in automaton bases, and the automatons just play along?
goddamn, so you mean the MoT have the mean to plant corpse on fully automatons controlled planets, in the middle of heavy outpost without ANY of them noticing, and only use it for that kind of shit?
I believe that the actions you experience while playing are basically just propaganda spread around super earth, in reality the actions you experience aren't happening and what's actually happening you are going there to slaughter people for resources, I doubt the alien creatures and automatons probably don't even exist it's just to make the people seems scary and give superearth a reason to invade.
This sounds like treason to me
Imagine you are with a group of helldivers. You drop on a planet and you find a bunch of robots without guns just covering in a corner in fear.
Are we the baddies ?
Nuh-uh
“Suffer not the alien to live”