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  • JJ Hazan pitches himself as a professional poker player to the Dragons. JJ Hazan seeks an investment of £65,000 in return for a 40% equity stake of his poker abilities, but will any of the Dragons take a gamble?
    An international sensation, Dragon's Den features entrepreneurs pitching for investment in the Den from our Dragons, five venture capitalists willing to invest their own money in exchange for equity.
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  • @jameso2610
    @jameso2610 4 роки тому +2303

    This is the adult equivalent of asking your parents for money to go in the arcade

    • @holekholek
      @holekholek 4 роки тому +14

      So true.

    • @davynewcomb8054
      @davynewcomb8054 4 роки тому +41

      If my kids could make a profit from arcade games I'd be throwing money at them.

    • @Xo-zn1bq
      @Xo-zn1bq 4 роки тому +3

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @bambieyedgirl7846
      @bambieyedgirl7846 4 роки тому +2

      LOL!!!!

    • @MasterJTLS
      @MasterJTLS 4 роки тому +2

      SO SPOT ON!!! 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @TwistedNaut
    @TwistedNaut 4 роки тому +1490

    Theo The Fetus, Duncan Banner Time and Pizza Jones.

    • @Jay-he2mo
      @Jay-he2mo 4 роки тому +65

      The first time I ever heard Theo paphitis I actually heard it as theo the fetus

    • @Baph839
      @Baph839 4 роки тому +47

      Debris meet in, gems can't

    • @JSSTyger
      @JSSTyger 4 роки тому +47

      Duncan Hammer Time? BREAK IT DOWN.

    • @edmundblackaddercoc8522
      @edmundblackaddercoc8522 4 роки тому +8

      Deborah needs em

    • @RexOrwell
      @RexOrwell 4 роки тому +10

      I thought his name was Theo Prosthesis.

  • @jackanderson4494
    @jackanderson4494 4 роки тому +463

    Was I the only one thinking when he walked in...
    "Bloody hell that blind man is confident with where he's going"

    • @KeithApp
      @KeithApp 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah, I was thinking tsimilar.

    • @HyperCS2
      @HyperCS2 3 роки тому +1

      He looked more like a douchbag tbh

    • @gerryradford4812
      @gerryradford4812 Рік тому

      There’s a horse 🐎 running this weekend guys. I so need your money to back it coz I spent all my huge winnings on a tent 🏕 for my families holidays. … just know this one cannot lose. Gx

  • @RockyDave
    @RockyDave 4 роки тому +650

    'I could gamble my own money, of course... but I'd rather gamble yours.'

    • @KingStr0ng
      @KingStr0ng 4 роки тому +24

      I like how he's all like *"DONT CALL ME A GAMBLER PLZ! IT HURTS MY FEEELINGS!!!"*
      💀💀💀💀💀

    • @MkeKen67
      @MkeKen67 3 роки тому +3

      @@KingStr0ng - He's a professional poker play, by gosh.

    • @yankochoynev652
      @yankochoynev652 3 роки тому +13

      Taking an investment to play is actually common in the poker world. And I agree with him - poker puts skill into gambling, it's not just mindless pressing of a button on a slot machine.

    • @RockyDave
      @RockyDave 3 роки тому

      @@yankochoynev652 Yes, we know that both luck and skill are involved.

    • @billymabum3514
      @billymabum3514 Місяць тому

      Most pro players don’t gamble their own money

  • @harrysmith7320
    @harrysmith7320 4 роки тому +710

    That look on Peter's face at the start😂 he was more out than Jenny

    • @stephenfox8685
      @stephenfox8685 4 роки тому +9

      When are people like you finally going to be over Jenny?

    • @Likexner
      @Likexner 4 роки тому +7

      @@stephenfox8685 Never forget!

    • @sirgooselover241
      @sirgooselover241 4 роки тому +2

      Stephen Fox I’ve just started watching Dragons’ Den, what happened to Jenny, or what did she do?

    • @ShadowLynx777
      @ShadowLynx777 4 роки тому +1

      @@sirgooselover241
      The long running is that she almost never invests so there's funny excuses made to why

    • @Likexner
      @Likexner 4 роки тому +11

      @@sirgooselover241 Ah, a rookie. Jenny is famous for almost never making a deal. The legend is that she only did the show for the free glass of water. She often comes up with ridiculous reasons not to invest so theres also a theory that she cant make a deal because shes broke. Sometimes she praises a product and then catches herself and then its pretty obvious shes just making excuses not to invest. Its pretty funny to watch her face when she realizes it.

  • @SierraKiloBravo
    @SierraKiloBravo 4 роки тому +717

    Enters in dark sunglasses, swaggers like a gangster, sits down seriously
    **Kermit the Frog voice** Hi everyone

  • @Clamfaced
    @Clamfaced 4 роки тому +2990

    Im awaiting the day someone comes in to pitch their onlyfans

    • @Rogu14
      @Rogu14 4 роки тому +91

      100.000$ for 20% of my onlyfans and free life time subscription ;-)

    • @jackhackett4557
      @jackhackett4557 4 роки тому +104

      Doug Richard: “I’m in!!!!!!”
      (I’m of course joking)

    • @SamTheEnglishTeacher
      @SamTheEnglishTeacher 4 роки тому +51

      It's a MLM scheme where 80-90% of the poor girls actually lose money! Saw an analysis of the site's numbers the other day. Straight up scam, destroying young girls' futures on top of that.

    • @Albimar17
      @Albimar17 4 роки тому +26

      @@jackhackett4557 hahaha genius!
      "I'll only invest if you're willing to lie about your age online!!"

    • @fuhrernithin2724
      @fuhrernithin2724 4 роки тому +10

      Jenny: sorry I'm out

  • @iamlegend68
    @iamlegend68 4 роки тому +473

    What Deborah said was spot on. “If I was going to gamble, I wouldn’t do it by proxy”. Well said 👏

    • @Dailysam6
      @Dailysam6 3 роки тому +33

      This is actually incredibly common in poker and nearly all pros have a similar arrangement. Most are backed by millionaires

    • @Joe-th7kf
      @Joe-th7kf 3 роки тому

      @@Dailysam6 my butt is backed by a of ass hairs

    • @Dailysam6
      @Dailysam6 3 роки тому

      @@Joe-th7kf I know JJ well actually. he plays in the london casinos

    • @svenniepennie4237
      @svenniepennie4237 3 роки тому +13

      That's actually not spot on at all. Rich people staking pro players happens all the time in poker. If you stake the right people it can be very profitable.

    • @yonasbeza617
      @yonasbeza617 2 роки тому

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  • @AP-sn6ro
    @AP-sn6ro 4 роки тому +1073

    "I'd like £100,000 to buy 50,000 lottery tickets"

    • @ashleelmb
      @ashleelmb 4 роки тому +20

      I've often thought about spending my savings on a bulk lottery ticket purchase. Once I pay my mortgage off, I might just buy 5k worth of tickets, see what happens.

    • @Barrett1079
      @Barrett1079 4 роки тому +85

      ashleelmb that’s a bad idea my dude. Gonna make a huge loss

    • @ashleelmb
      @ashleelmb 4 роки тому +6

      @@Barrett1079 Yeah, you're probably right. I dunno. It'd just be so good to win a few million and not have to work again wouldn't it?

    • @MasterJTLS
      @MasterJTLS 4 роки тому +27

      @@ashleelmb I wouldn't if you know the odds you could spend a million on euro millions lottery tickets about not make even 5% of that back.

    • @ashleelmb
      @ashleelmb 4 роки тому +9

      @@MasterJTLS Yeah, you're probably right. Bad idea I guess.

  • @OrestesKyriakosPoulakis
    @OrestesKyriakosPoulakis 3 роки тому +164

    I can't believe he didn't have even a small chart of his winnings/losings ratio from previous tournaments, it would have given everyone a much better idea of his skills.
    Certainly better than having a round of poker with two of them, than only demonstrated that he knows how to deal cards.

    • @RS-xq6je
      @RS-xq6je 2 роки тому +16

      Don't forget the psychology degree

    • @youtubeunsubscribesme7835
      @youtubeunsubscribesme7835 2 роки тому +1

      Other than that he presented the idea well

    • @Mitjitsu
      @Mitjitsu 2 роки тому +8

      According to him he's not an a winning player online. Also, an ROI of 250% is impossible (unless you're cheating) in the long run. All that means is he got a big score early on in his career and that came in the late 90's when poker was super easy. The best tourney players will have an ROI of 50%.

    • @sadas3190
      @sadas3190 2 роки тому +6

      because it would expose him. Notice how almost no average joe poker player does that, they only post wins not losses. Because they lose more than they win.

  • @ShopSongs
    @ShopSongs 4 роки тому +225

    Peters glance at his watch during the pitch pretty much summed up the rest of the video

  • @claudehall7889
    @claudehall7889 4 роки тому +511

    If he was really that confident in his skills he would just take out a loan against his property.

    • @WobblesandBean
      @WobblesandBean 4 роки тому +55

      Right?? He BOUGHT A HOUSE IN SWEDEN. How could he possibly say he's lost all his money? I think it's more likely he lost it all, and is trying to start over.

    • @dazediss6629
      @dazediss6629 3 роки тому +37

      This is classic gambling addiction. He either has the money if his story is true but won’t stump up the cash himself. Or he talked a load of bullshit - is on a massive losing streak & is willing to do anything for someone to give him another chance

    • @24magiccarrot
      @24magiccarrot 3 роки тому +14

      @@dazediss6629 The vast majority of the best poker players in the world are sponsored and staked by other people. Players that are worth £20M+ still get other people to pay their stakes.

    • @JeremiahEcks777
      @JeremiahEcks777 3 роки тому +2

      @@24magiccarrot I don't understand then if they're so successful why they can't drum up the cash themselves.
      OPM. It's savagely irresponsible for someone to gamble with someone else's cash *if* they have the capital themselves.
      If this guy was that amazing, before he paid his mortgage he should have accrued more money for his capital following paying his mortgage. Instead he paid his mortgage but now wants OPM.
      Also I love how Deborah pulls him down a peg.

    • @24magiccarrot
      @24magiccarrot 3 роки тому +13

      @@JeremiahEcks777 Staking allows the player to play in bigger games than their bankroll would otherwise allow, and even if their bankroll does allow it there is still a risk involved so it's smart for the player to reduce their own personal risk and it's smart for the investor if they back the right player.
      Even the best players, especially tournament players (variance in tournaments is much bigger than cash games), can have downward swings of several thousand pounds at medium stakes and several million pounds at high stakes.
      Daniel Negreanu one of the best players of all time went on a downswing for 2 years his buy ins during that period totalled $2.87M which resulted in a loss of $86,000 over the two years.
      By the time you take in hotels and travel for the overwhelming majority of players even profitable players that sort of downswing would be enough to finish them if it weren't for backers.
      In regard to the guy in this video, the capital he had left over after paying off his mortgage likely isn't that much in poker terms. To play professionally properly you need to have a bankroll somewhere in the region of £200k which will only really allow you play for medium stakes. Asking for £65K he certainly isn't looking to be playing in high stake games trying to get a backer could be the difference between him playing in small stake games or medium stake games which could make a big difference between him being able to play full time for a living or playing on the side for a second income, and given the play schedule of most tournaments he really wouldn't want to be playing on the side if he wants to be serious about making money, many one day tournaments last up to 8 hours and the bigger tournaments are played over several days.

  • @jietroraximoff2805
    @jietroraximoff2805 3 роки тому +85

    The fact that Duncan and Theo aren't even writing *any* of his pitch down.😆

  • @SouthLondonForever
    @SouthLondonForever 4 роки тому +490

    The dragons missed a trick here, they should have folded instead of saying 'im out'

    • @4moinak6mitra25
      @4moinak6mitra25 4 роки тому +4

      INSTA FOLD PRE

    • @fredbloggs8369
      @fredbloggs8369 4 роки тому +3

      I'd have raised - he's all bluff

    • @thiswasposted120
      @thiswasposted120 3 роки тому

      LOL

    • @Thuusu
      @Thuusu 3 роки тому +2

      Good idea, but wouldn't that mean they were conceding defeat and giving him their money?

    • @ArranVid
      @ArranVid 29 днів тому

      LOL

  • @sander2723
    @sander2723 3 роки тому +129

    This guy is a genius. Buys a summer house in Sweden, one of EU's countries with the shortest summer.

    • @callum9999
      @callum9999 Рік тому +8

      If you like spending summers in Sweden then it seems to make more sense to buy a summer house in Sweden than in a country with a longer summer...

    • @ImDavidJames
      @ImDavidJames Рік тому +1

      It's a tax haven, he isnt there for the weather

    • @feonor26
      @feonor26 Рік тому

      These summers there are very nice tho

    • @tmfromdenmark9158
      @tmfromdenmark9158 Рік тому +3

      You clearly dont know anything about Sweden !

    • @djsteves554
      @djsteves554 11 місяців тому +2

      ​@@ImDavidJamesthat's Switzerland

  • @YuToobVideos
    @YuToobVideos 4 роки тому +480

    Debra: "What's with the sunglasses?"
    Gambler: "I'm a douche-bag"

    • @peterspencer2415
      @peterspencer2415 4 роки тому +6

      Gambler: I am an obsolete imbecile!,

    • @S0L0M0NSWIG
      @S0L0M0NSWIG 4 роки тому +4

      He’s actually a poker player, not a gambler!!

    • @samuelholmes3696
      @samuelholmes3696 4 роки тому +2

      This one made me laugh, more than anything else I've seen on UA-cam in a long time!

    • @KingStr0ng
      @KingStr0ng 4 роки тому +2

      @@S0L0M0NSWIG So he's a gambler then?

    • @Mithrandir69
      @Mithrandir69 3 роки тому

      @@samuelholmes3696 Ssame here. Sort of surprised me, actually.

  • @ASXInvestor
    @ASXInvestor 4 роки тому +89

    Peter didn't hold his poker face delivering his thoughts on this pitch 😅

    • @JohnChoidotOrg
      @JohnChoidotOrg 4 роки тому +1

      He didn't have to have a poker face.
      This is a particularly terrible idea on a show filled with terrible ideas.

  • @BenKellyMusic92
    @BenKellyMusic92 4 роки тому +68

    He had a lot of nerve, trying to pull a stunt like that!

  • @aquatiger8
    @aquatiger8 4 роки тому +27

    the table prop was jut an excuse not to have to stand up the whole time. smart move

  • @Michael-Stones
    @Michael-Stones 3 роки тому +47

    Wow James Caan is such a gentleman. He's always so respectful. I have actually never seen him humiliate anybody in the Den. He is the embodiment of British politeness.

    • @jessbarnes8521
      @jessbarnes8521 10 місяців тому +1

      He’s a nightmare investor who treated his clients, from the den, like dirt. It surprised me too.

    • @tmfromdenmark9158
      @tmfromdenmark9158 4 місяці тому +2

      @@jessbarnes8521
      😮 How do you know ?

  • @austiniscoolduh
    @austiniscoolduh 4 роки тому +786

    Sounds like he lost all his money and needs a loan to feed his addiction

    • @ashleelmb
      @ashleelmb 4 роки тому +49

      He didn't lose all his money. Didn't you hear him say he paid off his mortgage and he took his family on holidays around the world? And guys like this aren't just game addicts. They use it as a business, like he's clearly done before.

    • @MistaTofMaine
      @MistaTofMaine 4 роки тому +41

      @@ashleelmb why didn't the guy just use some of his savings or take a low interest loan out is the question.

    • @ashleelmb
      @ashleelmb 4 роки тому +15

      @@MistaTofMaine Well maybe he wanted some bigger publicity to massage his ego. If he got a celebrity dragon to back him, it'd make him a more commercial player. Maybe thats why. 🤷‍♂️

    • @austiniscoolduh
      @austiniscoolduh 4 роки тому +34

      ashleelmb a guy with an active addiction wouldn’t exactly tell the truth about everything. But I see what you’re saying

    • @ashleelmb
      @ashleelmb 4 роки тому +9

      @@austiniscoolduh Yeah, fair enough mate. It was an interesting proposition though wasn't it?

  • @icystrangers5482
    @icystrangers5482 4 роки тому +185

    Strange! I remember Caan declining an alcohol related investment on religious grounds. I thought that he was going to declare himself out for the same reason, here.

    • @jackherer8256
      @jackherer8256 4 роки тому +19

      I think going out because of religious reasons is different from this time where he was out as he had 0 invest and thought it was a terrible idea.

    • @tiprat5051
      @tiprat5051 4 роки тому +4

      @@jackherer8256 u missed it

    • @RockyDave
      @RockyDave 4 роки тому +2

      I thought the same.

    • @TheAbuFulaan
      @TheAbuFulaan 4 роки тому +4

      He picks and chooses what’s good for him and what isn’t

    • @Paaraadox
      @Paaraadox 4 роки тому +5

      It's not disallowed to gamble being a muslim, is there?
      Is Caan even a muslim btw, I'm not sure what religious affiliation he has.

  • @Neil2022
    @Neil2022 4 роки тому +143

    Just had a look at his competition results. The Dragons made the right decision.

    • @user-dh6mj3fs3e
      @user-dh6mj3fs3e 4 роки тому +4

      What exactly happened to him

    • @Neil2022
      @Neil2022 4 роки тому +16

      Axis earned about €10k past year.

    • @noobgoestrapping5084
      @noobgoestrapping5084 3 роки тому +15

      This is the correct answer. I've made money staking poker players in the past.
      But a strong record is necessary. I would never stake someone that doesn't have a strong and consistent track record at the stakes they're intending to play.

    • @ktb3167
      @ktb3167 Рік тому

      @@Neil2022u

    • @dar1e
      @dar1e Рік тому

      But he likely did not have the money to enter all the tournaments he wanted to. Hence you cannot infer whether the Dragons made the right decision or not

  • @ahilyakulkarni8405
    @ahilyakulkarni8405 4 роки тому +89

    They were surprisingly polite on this one, and they didn't need to!

    • @KingStr0ng
      @KingStr0ng 4 роки тому

      This. ☝☝☝

    • @Dailysam6
      @Dailysam6 3 роки тому +3

      This is actually incredibly common in poker and nearly all pros have a similar arrangement

    • @ArranVid
      @ArranVid 29 днів тому +1

      You want them to be impolite to a professional Poker player who wants to make a deal? Why? Just because it is unconventional and risky and not the usual business deal that you see in the den? Stop being mean.

  • @lankasur7942
    @lankasur7942 4 роки тому +107

    Who knew deep down that as soon as he said he was a poker player, Deborah and Peter are gonna be out?

    • @lonmar0612
      @lonmar0612 4 роки тому +12

      as soon as she said poker player all of them were always going to be out. Poker players are not a buisness investment opportunity

    • @Lightning-jc6re
      @Lightning-jc6re 4 роки тому +4

      Deep down? It was written on their faces

  • @bennazareth6558
    @bennazareth6558 4 роки тому +37

    Checking out his live earnings in official tournaments, he won big in a tournament in 2006 (350,000ish) so before this was filmed.
    Since that point, he has won less than that over the next 14 years.

    • @timeless4369
      @timeless4369 4 роки тому +3

      How much as he gambled in that time compared to 2006? He might not have had the funds to make a big return

    • @bennazareth6558
      @bennazareth6558 4 роки тому

      @@timeless4369 I dont know tbh.

    • @dazediss6629
      @dazediss6629 3 роки тому +6

      Thing with poker players is that their winnings are well publicised but their outgoings are not. He could be up or down, only he knows the truth & you won’t find it on the internet.

  • @CouldBeUtkarsh
    @CouldBeUtkarsh 4 роки тому +127

    He was looking for a sponsor more than an investor!

    • @5tyyu
      @5tyyu 3 роки тому +4

      Mike Tyson made Don King millions being a gud boxer. Its the same thing

    • @tomlafferty4651
      @tomlafferty4651 3 роки тому +3

      @@5tyyu it is to an extent, but neither are business models, which is what the dragons are specialists in, the lad was barking up the wrong tree

    • @Dailysam6
      @Dailysam6 3 роки тому +2

      This is actually incredibly common in poker and nearly all pros have a similar arrangement

    • @24magiccarrot
      @24magiccarrot 3 роки тому +1

      @@tomlafferty4651 There are literally thousands of people that make money by staking professional poker players in return for a % of their winnings. There are even websites that allow you to buy a piece of players before they enter a big tournament.

    • @B_Bodziak
      @B_Bodziak 3 роки тому

      My guess is that he already tried to get sponsorship.

  • @marks6663
    @marks6663 4 роки тому +173

    If he is so good at making money by gambling, why does he need someone to give him money to start?
    Basically, his wife told him that he was not allowed to touch the swedish summer house, so he would have to get his gambling money from some sucker.

    • @SiLoMixMaster
      @SiLoMixMaster 4 роки тому +2

      ok boomer

    • @csanton3946
      @csanton3946 4 роки тому +8

      he can even loan from his equity house in sweden. shady

    • @Dailysam6
      @Dailysam6 3 роки тому +9

      This is actually incredibly common in poker and nearly all pros have a similar arrangement

    • @DesignByKirk
      @DesignByKirk 3 роки тому +1

      @@Dailysam6 because it is a dumb and shady "game".

    • @Fred-rg5vw
      @Fred-rg5vw 6 місяців тому

      ​@sslaw6
      But any pro worth investing in also has millions that he or she could get access to quickly if necessary.
      The 20k bankroll he left himself according to his story after spending 500k on houses is nothing..
      That's 1 bad night at a hi stakes cash game or 2 buy ins for a big tournament.
      His story reeks of b s.
      I'd wanna see bank statements etc before believing a word he said.

  • @hamstersmash
    @hamstersmash 4 роки тому +40

    lmao what a guy, the producers brought him in to future proof a meme i suppose

  • @XtotheK
    @XtotheK 4 роки тому +40

    This practice of getting someone else to cover your expenses as a professional poker player is actually so common that it's the norm among all the big name pros. Although that's usually considered "sponsorship" rather than "investing". It was worth a try though.

    • @hommefataltaemin
      @hommefataltaemin 3 роки тому +2

      Right. But this fool isn’t a big name pro lmao

    • @B_Bodziak
      @B_Bodziak 3 роки тому

      Sponsors don't receive dividends.

    • @coalhouse1981
      @coalhouse1981 2 роки тому

      called staking and standard is 50 perent not 40

    • @Romans8-9
      @Romans8-9 Рік тому

      @@coalhouse1981 Thats true, but if you´re good enough you can do 60 40 easily.

    • @coalhouse1981
      @coalhouse1981 Рік тому +1

      @@Romans8-9 I agree but my point was that if he was a good poker player he won’t need the dragons . He could find a staker

  • @Clamfaced
    @Clamfaced 4 роки тому +64

    Finally the flashing stop light guy has been dethroned for the worst pitch ever by this guy.

    • @10wanderer
      @10wanderer 4 роки тому +8

      Listen Clambrain his pitch was perfect for his system , like horse racing there is form on which you decide your bet as in other sports . he says he has proof that he can win. like the Stock market , its based on performance etc

    • @Jehannum2000
      @Jehannum2000 4 роки тому

      @@10wanderer If you ever had any money you'd lose it quickly.

    • @Eidolon1andOnly
      @Eidolon1andOnly 4 роки тому

      Funny enough, that guy's idea of flashing lights on road signs are starting to be used more and more. He was ahead of the curve. Dragons missed out on that opportunity.

    • @Eidolon1andOnly
      @Eidolon1andOnly 4 роки тому

      @StoneBoiii420 No, but they're still based off the same concept of attaching flashing lights to road signs. His IP was the overall form and function of the lights, being they had a curved surface and showed direction of traffic flow, while the system being used now is just a simple flashing light not protected under any particular IP that I'm aware of. What's funny is just the concept of attaching flashing lights to a road sign was mocked and ridiculed by the Dragons, but if they had invested in that guy's protected IP, and made efforts to have it implemented, they could have secured government contracts and made millions of £s.

    • @Eidolon1andOnly
      @Eidolon1andOnly 4 роки тому +1

      @StoneBoiii420 I don't disagree, just saying it's funny that everyone mocks that guy for his concept of putting flashing lights on road signposts, yet more and more local governments are actually moving forward with that concept. I doubt there'd be any liability issues for that guy, as I've never heard of any company manufacturing the road signs or traffic lights getting sued by motorists.

  • @alphasia91
    @alphasia91 4 роки тому +142

    How was this even allowed on Dragon’s Den? It’s not a business or a product....

    • @michaelherrera116
      @michaelherrera116 4 роки тому +13

      I have been a professional poker player my entire adult life, I am almost 34 years old, poker can be a business for some people.

    • @MrAdriandipsf
      @MrAdriandipsf 4 роки тому +30

      It's entertaining and it makes good TV

    • @elastronaute1198
      @elastronaute1198 4 роки тому +7

      You guys upvoting this comment don't understand that poker sponsorship is actually a huge and growing industry. These guys are not 'addicts', they are calculated players that use mathematics and psychology to grind out an edge and make a long-term ROI over literally hundreds of thousands or even millions of hands... the top poker players that regularly get to the final tables of tournaments or are seen at the biggest cash games are NOT just gamblers relying on luck, that just doesn't work. You'd be wiped out incredibly quickly, as poker is largely a game of skill. So if you don't know what you're talking about, just say nothing, it's as simple as that. However, would I invest in this guy? No, but not for the reasons most are outlying. Not because it's all luck, but because its a continually changing dynamic ecosystem and there is so much information and skilful players out there these days that it's very difficult to sustain an edge especially in tournament poker that is also characterised by much larger variance and drawdowns than cash-game poker.

    • @MrJamberee
      @MrJamberee 4 роки тому +4

      The producers just wanted some comic relief for the show. This is a ridiculous pitch. His fellow tournament pros would know if he is a good investment and if he is, they would take a deal close to what he is pitching. There is a reason he can’t get the money from other pros, and we know what it is.

    • @SpacePrez
      @SpacePrez 4 роки тому

      The producers of dragon's den thought it would be funny

  • @XX-fp8bp
    @XX-fp8bp 4 роки тому +9

    His first pro match he made 355k usd then small amounts after that, total to this day is 673k earned. But that’s after 69 pro matches.

  • @rossi6113
    @rossi6113 4 роки тому +27

    He actually LOOKS like a "wide boy" gambler.

    • @vileguile4
      @vileguile4 4 роки тому

      Chris Penn but a bit bigger

    • @KingStr0ng
      @KingStr0ng 4 роки тому +1

      He gambles with his arteries 5 times a day. 😩

  • @AlphaCentauri24
    @AlphaCentauri24 4 роки тому +116

    I have won 547,000 dollars.
    I need 65,000 pounds.
    Ummm......No!

    • @Prado73
      @Prado73 4 роки тому +2

      @Aaron K I want to believe that production vet participants and that can get into the show.

    • @ashleelmb
      @ashleelmb 4 роки тому +1

      He said he paid his mortgage off and took his family on holidays around the world. A fair explanation I think.

    • @alclark5830
      @alclark5830 4 роки тому +6

      sounded like a scam to me

    • @SSJavenger
      @SSJavenger 4 роки тому +12

      @@ashleelmb Imagine taking your FAMILY on holidays around the WORLD and then your bank account reads 0, that guy has no self control whatsoever. Definitely a gambling addict.

    • @ashleelmb
      @ashleelmb 4 роки тому

      @@SSJavenger He has an element of control more than a straight gambler has. And that's how much he's betting based on the strength of the cards he's been dealt.

  • @100ksubssoicanbragtomyfrie4
    @100ksubssoicanbragtomyfrie4 4 роки тому +19

    So... "Give me money to play poker" 😂

  • @ProductBasement
    @ProductBasement 4 роки тому +6

    With his sunglasses on, in the thumbnail at least, it looks like somebody once told him the world was going to roll him... he left, asking if they could spare some change for gas

  • @exhainca
    @exhainca 4 роки тому +53

    Summer house in Sweden... I'm buying one in Antarctica next year.

    • @psoteriou3884
      @psoteriou3884 4 роки тому +1

      I'm buying a summer house on Mars where it's usually -80 F.

    • @nirakhsuk6131
      @nirakhsuk6131 4 роки тому +4

      What are you on about? Summers in Sweden has temperatures ranging between 25C and 40C.

    • @apkatt2568
      @apkatt2568 4 роки тому +2

      Swedens summer temperature does not range between 25C-40C

    • @Waff3n
      @Waff3n 4 роки тому

      @@nirakhsuk6131 40 degrees fahrenheit lol. Highest temperature recorded in Denmark is 36,4 degrees since 1880 and we're further south.

    • @tobyhart8515
      @tobyhart8515 4 роки тому

      He could take out a second bond on his summer house in Sweden and use those funds to play poker with. Unless he's bluffing.

  • @CFMichael
    @CFMichael 4 роки тому +48

    According to the Poker Database, this bloke has won about $16k since the start of 2018. The Dragon's would have got around $6500. Not the best return on a £65k investment!

    • @hamza361
      @hamza361 4 роки тому +5

      and this was in 2009 😂

    • @Finderskeepers.
      @Finderskeepers. 4 роки тому +2

      on how big an investment and over how many games? If its $10 or a free seat on 1 game , its great return , if its $100k and 1k games, not so good.

    • @alzon5712
      @alzon5712 4 роки тому

      He seems like a decent player looking at his previous games on global poker index, he probably doesn't have the money to invest himself though. He seems to make money on almost every game he enters, but at 20k buy in who knows how he compares to players at that level.

  • @kevm8
    @kevm8 4 роки тому +54

    Ridiculous idea. 33 tournaments is far too few. It takes 2500+ tournaments to be ~99% sure you beat the games you're playing, because the variance is so high. It takes around 500 games to be 75% sure you're long-term profitable, accounting for variance. 33 is an insult. 33 in a year too?? What is this guy doing the rest of the time only playing one tournament every 9 days? 8 cashes out of 33 is a good amount for any professional, but sample size is far too small.
    If he's so good, why doesn't he look for financial backing from stables that specialize in this sort of thing? Why doesn't he sell action/crossbook with other professionals? Why doesn't he sell a piece of his action for a mix of coaching/finance.
    Poker is a game of skill, there's no way around this, but this guy is a joke. I hate when the game I love is so horribly misrepresented by people like this.

    • @youtube-kit9450
      @youtube-kit9450 3 роки тому +1

      Pretty much. Why look for investment from dragons who are likely to not be interested in poker and aren't sponsors vs. just gonig to stables and looking for sponsors.

    • @B_Bodziak
      @B_Bodziak 3 роки тому

      If he believes he's as good as he said, he would remortgage his house to float him and pay tournament expenses. If he had an investor, he would essentially be taking zero risk.

    • @Romans8-9
      @Romans8-9 Рік тому +1

      Not in live tournaments. The edge in live tournaments is much larger compared to online. That said, his first ever cash was that huge score and he has barely made anything anywhere close in the 17 years since.

    • @rachel.mcgowan
      @rachel.mcgowan 10 місяців тому +1

      He probably just wanted to get on a popular TV programme and boast about being a supposedly great poker player. Nothing more complicated than that.

  • @c.r3313
    @c.r3313 3 роки тому +2

    Peters expression throughout the pitch pretty much sums it up 🤣🤣😎 this was a good one

  • @doockathefinanceguy
    @doockathefinanceguy 4 роки тому +11

    JJ: So why are you sitting here and asking me for my children inherited money, you ask Theo?
    Theo The Fetus: You're good at reading my mind.

  • @MatthewDcy
    @MatthewDcy 4 роки тому +9

    While this is obviously a very odd proposition for the den, this way of doing business is very common in high stakes poker, where many tournaments costs 5 figures to enter, with high potential returns. So many pro players have investors to help limit the risk.

  • @Mythsinger
    @Mythsinger 4 роки тому +14

    There are companies out there that specifically provide backing for professional poker players. He should be on one of those and attract investors that way.

    • @B_Bodziak
      @B_Bodziak 3 роки тому

      I think you're referring to sponsors. They essentially pay for advertising but they don't receive a percentage of a player's winnings. Corporate sponsors pay race car drivers/teams to put company logos on cars and clothing. Most poker sponsors are companies with online and mobile gaming sites. If he truly is as skilled as he said and needed the money to pay entry fees, travel, lodging, etc for tournaments, he would remortgage his house.

  • @toshiroyamada2443
    @toshiroyamada2443 4 роки тому +77

    I think EA need to hire this guy. There not loot boxes there surprise mechanics, I'm not a gambler I'm a poker player.

    • @singami465
      @singami465 4 роки тому

      Poker is not gambling.

    • @Riot_Police
      @Riot_Police 4 роки тому +6

      @@singami465 Poker is gambling with some Skill involved.

    • @stefanhatcher6486
      @stefanhatcher6486 4 роки тому +2

      @@Riot_Police Poker is like kinder eggs

    • @singami465
      @singami465 4 роки тому

      @@Riot_Police "It's gambling, except it takes skill"
      Okay, so it's no gambling. Do you even know the meaning of the words you're using?

    • @Riot_Police
      @Riot_Police 4 роки тому +5

      @@singami465 Lol, yes. Game of chance for money you can modify the outcome with decisions but its still gambling. Learn more before trying to discredit people. Makes you look like a fool.

  • @stefanjovanovic1804
    @stefanjovanovic1804 3 роки тому +10

    “I know you’ve won, so I’m not even gonna bluff you” - words of a true poker flop 😂

  • @urbaniv
    @urbaniv 4 роки тому +12

    He should have presented it as a business: showing how much he won and lost in the last year's etc. But this way...

  • @TheeGlocktopus
    @TheeGlocktopus Рік тому +3

    looked up his poker stats, the number's hes talking about almost entirely come from one single tournament he got lucky in.

  • @TheRacerRich
    @TheRacerRich 3 роки тому +3

    Looking at this guys track record funnily enough he hit big once in 2006 and then never again.

  • @mr.nobody7785
    @mr.nobody7785 4 роки тому +4

    I like his concept of ROI. i had $5 in my pocket and by walking outside for awhile, I found a $10 bill. I have a ROI of 300% (ignoring my initial $5)

  • @samgrimshaw388
    @samgrimshaw388 4 роки тому +15

    Ok dragons, I'm going down the bookies next week. I need an investment of 70k pls

  • @SirTorcharite
    @SirTorcharite 3 роки тому +3

    I feel like he should have asked for a ratchet up deal pitched to all five split between them.
    Something like,
    "Today I'm asking for 20k, I'm willing to insure that from my own pocket here today"
    "All I need from the five of you, is 4k each"
    "I ask for only that today because I'm confident in my abilities."
    "Wanting the barrier of risk to be so low, you all are confident in that pittance returning as I am"
    "After this quick demonstration of my decades long passion at the sport I'm certain will bring us all wealth, I'd hope we could arrange another contract raising the stakes a bit."
    *Insert pitch over history of earnings*
    *Explain how commonplace poker player investment contracts are in the industry*
    *Hand out lists of scheduled tournaments, their locations, possible winnings, and expected costs associated*
    *Break down the min/max amounts of time till ROI depending on best/worst placements*
    *Maybe mention the psychology degree*
    *Offer to wear their companies logos on my clothes as free advertising every tournament*
    Follow it up with a hopeful statement about once proof of concept is shown there may be continued, incrementally higher risk/reward opportunities for all with less guaranteed insurance on my part as we build rapport.
    *Gracious closing statement thanking everyone for their time with a little reminder we could all win!*
    Then just hope they don't wanna be seen worrying about 4k when they're supposed to be "rich". Especially with the only risk falling on my shoulders mostly and no obligation to stay longer than the guaranteed ROI. Pretty sure they'd all buy in just to save face on tv.
    Hopefully I'd rope in one or two dragons for a recurring investment after. Investments that grow larger after every successful repayment, gradually spreading the risk outward to more even distribution over the remaining group. Allowing me to bring home the big bucks eventually while not scaring away my meal ticket.

  • @YuToobVideos
    @YuToobVideos 4 роки тому +25

    I don't blame the gambling guy for being here, I blame the show for allowing such an asinine pitch.

    • @Mitjitsu
      @Mitjitsu 2 роки тому

      They're trying to show there is money to be made from poker staking.

  • @leonajames5517
    @leonajames5517 2 роки тому +6

    This guy actually won 450k at the Dutch Open in 2006.

    • @Romans8-9
      @Romans8-9 Рік тому +2

      Yep and hasn´t won a thing since.

  • @TheOmniscientAtheist
    @TheOmniscientAtheist 4 місяці тому +2

    2024 update on JJ: I looked on his Hendon Mob database and you can see in 2006 he had one massive cash 400k+ dollars, and then nothing much since. He is still active today, making multiple cashes in the low thousands and below each year. I'm surprised the dragons didn't want to look at his record in more detail because if he'd final tabled a load of mid steak events, the proposition is actually quite interesting, but in reality it looks like he fluked a second place at the very start of his career and then did nothing noteworthy since. They were right not to invest.

  • @strappingpiglet
    @strappingpiglet 4 роки тому +4

    Me holding 7 2 off suit "I'm all in!"
    Jenny holding AA "im out"

  • @Sparringvids94
    @Sparringvids94 3 роки тому +1

    The majority of the dragons were respectful of an unorthodox opportunity which is nice to see

  • @dibassarkar2898
    @dibassarkar2898 4 роки тому +12

    He is not a gambler, he is a poker player, a VERY GOOD POKER player goddamnit !!

  • @DanNicholsWatercolour
    @DanNicholsWatercolour 3 місяці тому

    It’s 3 50 am and I can’t stop watching DD clips, it was definitely better in the old days!

  • @johnnyshami5318
    @johnnyshami5318 4 роки тому +18

    Only a true gambler will say that he/she isn't a gambler.

    • @ashleelmb
      @ashleelmb 4 роки тому

      There's always acceptions to the rule and his past success demonstrates that. He clearly wins more than he loses if he can pay his mortgage off and take his family on holidays around the world with his winnings.

    • @dazediss6629
      @dazediss6629 3 роки тому

      @@ashleelmb Not really - he could have gone all in one time and got lucky with a massive pot. Gambling is plain and simple. You can win and lose lots of money in seconds - if he had the money then he’d back himself. The entire notion of what he’s saying is illogical - I’m a good poker player but I have no money to enter tournaments? Well then you’re not as good as you think you are.

    • @ashleelmb
      @ashleelmb 3 роки тому

      @@dazediss6629 it takes a lot more time and energy to get the kind of money required to enter more, bigger poker tournaments that the dragons can offer him as an investment straight away. Also, if he has to play under pressure to accumulate the funds to enter the bigger tournaments, he could overload his mind and become disillusioned with the game, causing him to fail in those ones that pay the big money that really count.

    • @dazediss6629
      @dazediss6629 3 роки тому

      @@ashleelmb Yeah - in other words, it’s gambling.

    • @ashleelmb
      @ashleelmb 3 роки тому

      @@dazediss6629 I didn't say it wasnt

  • @vader745
    @vader745 3 роки тому

    @ 6:00 that grin on Theo's face, so tempting lol

  • @hxzzz7643
    @hxzzz7643 3 роки тому +5

    This is just the posh equivalent of getting a payday loan and then going to the bookies

  • @AlphaChinoz
    @AlphaChinoz Рік тому +1

    The Open Fetus
    Duncan Vanitine
    2:38
    😂😂😂

  • @MavimMusic
    @MavimMusic 4 роки тому +3

    Yasss finally a new upload! I need my daily fix of Dragon's Den.. #addicted

  • @olufagosebambulagose
    @olufagosebambulagose Рік тому

    Bruh....I'm speechless. I liked how none of them even started writing anything down.

  • @ThatBritishSnep
    @ThatBritishSnep 4 роки тому +3

    "I'm not a criminal, I'm borrowing money from the bank!"

  • @kantimj
    @kantimj 4 роки тому +1

    very good answer/reponse all the question-good luck.

  • @iranicus
    @iranicus 4 роки тому +3

    Title should be "I'm not a gambler I am a very good poker player" 😎

  • @Blackjuans
    @Blackjuans 3 роки тому +2

    I watch this show for my homie Duncan!
    Love this guy!

  • @IFentonito
    @IFentonito 4 роки тому +6

    poker players looking for investment and giving a % of their winnings is very normal, but they need a patron, not a dragon

  • @SoSo-li6dn
    @SoSo-li6dn 4 роки тому +2

    I remember this, Vicky Coren wrote an article on why it was a good investment.

  • @Noelhall88
    @Noelhall88 4 роки тому +12

    Really good poker players actually do this all the time. Not sure I would put this guy in that category

    • @youtube-kit9450
      @youtube-kit9450 3 роки тому

      They also look for actual sponsors, not present this as a business to people who have little to no knowledge or interest in gambling.

  • @louistracy6964
    @louistracy6964 4 роки тому +1

    Victoria Coren pints to the sense in spotting a good player needing investment, and shows it with examples in Guardian article. She asks if you can imagine a race horse owner telling Frankie Dettori 'No thanks mate, I'll ride it myself'.

    • @Romans8-9
      @Romans8-9 Рік тому

      True but you need to find the poker-playing equivalent to Frankie Dettori, and JJ Hazan definitely is not that!

  • @i.canalista7718
    @i.canalista7718 4 роки тому +6

    If he was so good his family and friends would be throwing money at him

  • @hubbamuppa6261
    @hubbamuppa6261 2 роки тому +1

    The way he bent those cards, this guy would’ve blown that money in a day

  • @theovolz3073
    @theovolz3073 4 роки тому +4

    Was Dragon’s Den running short on entrepreneurs back then? Seriously, this was a guy pretty much saying “please give me your money so that I can go gamble with it”.

    • @svenniepennie4237
      @svenniepennie4237 3 роки тому

      This was still during the poker boom. So a poker-related pitch would be pretty popular, probably.

  • @ewenmacpherson6253
    @ewenmacpherson6253 3 роки тому +2

    You could see Peters reaction right away he was not impressed and thought the guy was wasting his time

  • @nietvantoepassing9067
    @nietvantoepassing9067 4 роки тому +5

    The guys knows what he's talking about and sounds very intelligent and knowledgeable. I think it was a great pitch.

    • @whiskeytango5680
      @whiskeytango5680 4 роки тому +2

      Then go and invest in someone like him!

    • @b0b5m1th
      @b0b5m1th 4 роки тому +2

      Unfortunately his track record since vindicates the dragons decision.

    • @nietvantoepassing9067
      @nietvantoepassing9067 4 роки тому +1

      @@whiskeytango5680 I'm just saying his pitch was solid. Rather good compared to many others actually. Not that the offer he made to the Dragons was interesting at all. I would never invest in 'calculated gambling'.

    • @graham9352
      @graham9352 4 роки тому

      He was on 'the chase' last year, he has 17 kids and needs money

    • @KingStr0ng
      @KingStr0ng 4 роки тому

      @@graham9352 He's addicted and hes saying what they want to hear. He doesn't have 17 kids.

  • @Nthstar
    @Nthstar 4 роки тому +2

    Duncan contacted him after the show and invested
    😂

  • @kellyhau8594
    @kellyhau8594 4 роки тому +6

    what the hell was that, i dont think he needed money or expertise of a dragon, he was just riding his luck and pulling strings. that was not even a proper pitch .

  • @cheryl5994
    @cheryl5994 4 місяці тому

    I’M ACTUALLY SURPRISED HE ACTUALLY GOT ON THE SHOW.
    INVESTING OR TAKING A PUNT IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT TO PLAYING POKER & GAMBLING.
    IMO, ANYWAY.

  • @geerthankannan7283
    @geerthankannan7283 4 роки тому +9

    Mortgage paid off, 20k investment in his hand. Does he really need an investment 🤔 why cant he just win his way up.

    • @jonskitch8082
      @jonskitch8082 3 роки тому

      He does not want to risk his money but want to use dragons money. Cheeky!🤑

  • @jietroraximoff2805
    @jietroraximoff2805 3 роки тому +2

    I would've thought that the producers of this show would've stopped this guy from turning up right after the application process(assuming they have one and you can't simply rock up to the Den and pitch soemthing).

    • @thefonzkiss
      @thefonzkiss Рік тому

      It’s a tv show. They wanted something absurd.

    • @ArranVid
      @ArranVid 29 днів тому

      @@thefonzkiss They wanted something different and something that would get more ratings and views.

  • @JSSTyger
    @JSSTyger 4 роки тому +14

    Guys, he needs the capital because he spends loads of money on family vacations. Understandable :)

    • @KingStr0ng
      @KingStr0ng 4 роки тому

      - Every drug addict ever.

  • @3percentforlife
    @3percentforlife 4 роки тому +2

    My man might be the only non-dragon to leave the den with less money than he came in with. I wonder if he'd've gotten an investment if he won that demonstration game

  • @floj8083
    @floj8083 3 роки тому +4

    I think a young Peter would've been a great James Bond😁

  • @franklynpatterson3265
    @franklynpatterson3265 4 місяці тому

    He really has some serious gall to come to business people, ask them to let him gamble with their money, and then call it an investment.

  • @mikewalsh68
    @mikewalsh68 3 роки тому +6

    Honestly, as weird as this was, it was kind of a refreshing change of pace from the many people who think that they have an amazing food item or baby product.

  • @thefonzkiss
    @thefonzkiss Рік тому +2

    So he demonstrated what a great poker player he is by losing a game to Theo?

  • @___Bexx___
    @___Bexx___ 4 роки тому +26

    I want 65,000 and can guarantee you 50,000 of my winnings.
    This guy 😅

    • @KingStr0ng
      @KingStr0ng 4 роки тому +2

      *"I'M REALLY GOOD I PROMISE! JUST TRUST ME BRO!"*
      💀💀💀💀

    • @billymabum3514
      @billymabum3514 3 роки тому +1

      Not what he said

  • @michaelwalker5459
    @michaelwalker5459 Рік тому

    I thought he had invented some new poker glass's or something. When he said it was for his poker money my jaw dropped. You don't ask, you don't get 🤣🤣

  • @johnjoe7683
    @johnjoe7683 4 роки тому +4

    I think his cover is blown now, he would be lucky to get past a casino door.

  • @ssj3saru661
    @ssj3saru661 Місяць тому

    the definition of the 'source: trust me bro'

  • @jamesross3921
    @jamesross3921 4 роки тому +7

    The last tournament he played was a £40 freezout 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @jreverie7018
    @jreverie7018 2 роки тому

    If anyone's curious he still plays poker today and has made around 750,000 pounds in winnings. Still actively playing every month basically!

  • @tgtg4247
    @tgtg4247 4 роки тому +4

    Why would he buy a house in Sweden? seriously, Isn't the weather shitty enough in the UK anymore?

    • @graham9352
      @graham9352 4 роки тому

      The pretty blonde girls, he has 17 kids

    • @WobblesandBean
      @WobblesandBean 4 роки тому +1

      @@graham9352 Well then, no wonder he's broke.

  • @PizzaRatJC
    @PizzaRatJC 3 роки тому +1

    His gran won't let him sell the dishwasher to enter a tournament and this was the next logical step

  • @thexbriannova
    @thexbriannova 4 роки тому +5

    From Dragon's Den to Gambling Den XD

  • @dilwich
    @dilwich 4 роки тому +2

    I went on to pitch for £1000 to put in the bookies FOBTs . . . . . They booted me out!

  • @hataeshik66
    @hataeshik66 4 роки тому +3

    If........a gamblers favorite word!
    If......I win BIG, I would disappear!
    If......I loose BIG, you never see me again!