Got invited to the GS private event in MA and jet Joe. Super nice guy and he knows everything about this stuff. Tried to order the credor but sadly my AD said the store will get 0. But Joe really make me appriciate the brand even more and the design and build quality of the watches.
Great video! Japanese watchmaking often gets overlooked compared to Swiss brands, but the quality and innovation from names like Grand Seiko and Credor are incredible. It's awesome to see a spotlight on their craftsmanship and unique approach. Thanks for bringing attention to these amazing timepieces!
I met Joe at Toppers event in Burlingame CA. He's awesomely knowledgeable, friendly and approachable. Even let me handle his personal watch. The Grand Seiko tourbillon was amazing to hold as well!
amzwatch You are so well-informed about luxury watches. You've obviously done your due diligence and the comparison to the US is very informative...because of course, I live in New York. thank you very much
I bought a watch from MaMaCoo lightly used for my last milestone birthday. Don't wear it as much as it deserves, but not afraid to, either. It's stunning . Good taste, Sir.
Purchased a GCB997 with caliber 6898 just a short time ago - unbelievably well built, compact and with a sense of understatetment notwithstanding the polished surface of the case and bracelet. Possibly, even at higher level than a corresponding Grand Seiko
For me it's the little things. As always with quality Japanese craftsmanship. The 'Bell Flower' design on the Mainspring Barrel by itself is such a beautiful and simple idea but then for say the Spring Drive 7R14 movement in a Credor the gap between the bridges/plates of the movement leads up to it like a flower stem. Japanese craftsmanship is for me unmatched at achieving subtle understated quality that is created in a very deliberate and thoughtful manner.
Great content! That blue dial watch is amazing, love the dialog between Teddy and Joe as well. They keep going and going and we can keep watching and listening 😊
Is Joe going in a different direction with his career? His is so knowledgeable, like yourself Teddy, in the watch world. Love listening to you two talking watches. 💪🏼
He is such a great representative of these brands. He is very sophisticated and knowledgeable, yet not condescending. He could tell you about the fine craft of watch making and seems like he would not have an issue sitting down for a beer.
I love your channel because of these kinds of episodes. Credor doesn't really appeal to me, but I knew very little about it. Now, if I see someone wearing one, I have the basic knowledge to discuss the brand.
Great video, very accurate analysis. In my 4.5 years in the game as a watch collector and enthusiast, I collected a lot from MaMaCoo I was thinking I was able to get a blue SD but I'm not vip enough, but I'm not giving up. Hehe. Great video.
I had the joy of shopping at the largest Credor display in all of Japan, at the Seiko House Ginza, just this past March. The staff there was amazing and I fell in love with a specific Credor model in the Linealx line, the GCCD989. It is absolutely gorgeous. Too many details to mention. Regarding accuracy, yes it states +15/-10, but actually runs at exactly +3 per day, every day. Not bad. For what I paid, it was a STEAL. Lastly, Credor is a strict Japanese domestic brand. I don't think they care AT ALL what the outside world thinks or says about them. They will do their own thing, and I am fine with that.
Fun point the same as the first Grand Seiko's were branded Seiko, Credor Goldfeather is descending from Seiko Goldfeather. It happens I have both of these Seiko parents. And also 2 GS.
Great 'intro to Credor' vid. 👌👌 IMHO, Joe misstates that the Eichi II porcelain is whiter than GS / Seiko enamel. The enamel dials on a watch like the Seiko SNR037 have a brighter bolder white (and wet paint appearance) than the 'softer' look of porcelain white. That said - of course the Eichi II is stunning. I've had it on my wrist in the Osaka GS AD and by chance I'd gone in wearing my 037 Laurel. Hope to own an EII someday!
Would be interested to hear Joe go through his personal (GS) collection with Teddy. But it’s always nice to have him on Teddys channel, no matter which watches they discuss.
Joe is a credit to both Grand Seiko and Credor. His passion for the brands is obvious, it is not corporate but heart based really like the essence of what both brands ethos is. I have been a proud Grand Seiko owner since 2016, mine is the sbgr 061. I love the cream dial and the overall finish. It bats way above it's price point!
Excellent video as always. Can you cover Blancpain's Villeret complete calendar's if possible? There is a lack of high quality videos around those watches and I would love to your take on it.
If you’re after the design language and craftsmanship but don’t have that kind of money check out the sarx029 and 053 plus a few others for 1/10th the price or less. Amazing value
I always heard that Credor was the favorite of the Yakuza 😂 Really love the look of some of the vintage ones. GS made a mechanical, and quartz special edition in 2000 that looks almost identical to a Credor. Octagonal bezel, unusual complicated bracelet.
For me, a Credor is a must have for any Seiko collector. King/Grand Seiko are the grammar of design, Credor is the flamboyance. Credor is also without a doubt the best way to get precious metals and stones for cheap. I bought a 5A74-0190 for 750 bucks, diamond encrusted 18k yellow gold bezel. Can't beat that!
One (geeky!) question I have re the Eichii is that apparently the hour markers and logo on the dial is hand painted. is it literally as that sounds free form or would they use a stencil and fill in?
I absolutely love watches, the high end watch brands are out of my budget but the MaMaCoo has literally an almost duplicate of every single watch on the market . Always a great but no matter your budget.
I just got into watch collecting. I've loved watches since I was young but I never had anyone teach me or bring deeper into the world. MAMACOO brought closer to a community and hobby I always wanted to get into more and that is incredibly meaningful to me !
I have a real SUB but I also bought one of these replicas from MaMaCoo for piece of mind if I go to another country or if I am doing activities that can damage the watch. I don't see anything wrong with that.
I love to get my hands on the locomotive but ill bet that it's sold out by the time I even figure out how to buy one. Hopefully they start to become a more international brand in the future, but I do understand that it's kind of difficult to do that but such a small team of artisans.
I absolutely love watches, the high end watch brands are out of my budget but the amzwatch has literally an almost duplicate of every single watch on the market . Always a great but no matter your budget.
My only experience with credor was a white dial h2. I wanted to love it as much as my grand seikos, but I've never so quickly fallen out of a honeymoon phase with a watch. Actually, I completely forgot I owned it for nearly a year. If you could spend all day watching your movement, you'd be fine, there's no disputing the craftsmanship of construction. But the attempt at civilised understatement just comes across as incomplete. The dial went from enigmatic porcelain to a cousin of microwave safe crockery. Eventually moved it on to make space for an omiwatari, and have never looked back.
For the public at large, if a brand isn’t on display in a Bucherer/Tourneau, Watches of Switzerland, etc, no one will know a brand like this even exists.
@@earthenjadis8199Of course. The major AD’s are all inside major Las Vegas hotel/casinos, doors lined up with other major brands on the streets of NYC, etc, etc.
@@earthenjadis8199I don’t see why not. They are stores, and their doors are open like any other. Their locations in highly populated and well trafficked streets in major cities, malls, etc. I don’t hear stories of any AD turning people away at the door. Of course they might say no to you being able to walk out the door with a new Rolex on your wrist.
@@TRH982 Actually almost the same new retail ($49k) due to the weak yen. 7,535,000 JPY. These are both Japan domestic prices; they’re listed more overseas I believe.
Seiko already works with Ando Cloisonne?? So much for my genius idea.... But I don't think I've ever seen a Grand Seiko or Credor that has a dial that's obviously made by Ando. Any examples? (Ando's Tokyo shop is literally 200 meters from the Grand Seiko flagship store in Ginza.)
Let's say that I immensely enjoy every interview with Joe. We need more.
Getting to hear these in-depth discussions show how much work and heritage goes into these time pieces. Makes me appreciate them that much more
It's always an awesome episode when Joe and Teddy get together to talk everything Seiko.
Keep up the great work, Guys....Thanks much!
That blue dial 👌 at first i seen it like any other blue dail until he explained the process. Now i see a masterpiece.
Got invited to the GS private event in MA and jet Joe. Super nice guy and he knows everything about this stuff. Tried to order the credor but sadly my AD said the store will get 0. But Joe really make me appriciate the brand even more and the design and build quality of the watches.
Great video! Japanese watchmaking often gets overlooked compared to Swiss brands, but the quality and innovation from names like Grand Seiko and Credor are incredible. It's awesome to see a spotlight on their craftsmanship and unique approach. Thanks for bringing attention to these amazing timepieces!
Joe is such a credit to his company. Great listen to and always informative.
17:45 OT ... that micro artist crown logo, legit cleverly beautifully designed ... yes, they deserve that crown
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What an amazing outcome for a beautiful watch. Always a pleasure to see amzwatch work your magic. Thanks for sharing this transformation with us!
The Eichi ii is my all time grail that I'll probably never own. Have not seen a watch more beautiful. It really is just special in its simplicity.
He is one of the best brand ambassadors! His knowledge and enthusiasm for the Seiko brands is off the charts!!!
Been waiting for a video on this brand to come out. Thank you Teddy!
I met Joe at Toppers event in Burlingame CA. He's awesomely knowledgeable, friendly and approachable. Even let me handle his personal watch. The Grand Seiko tourbillon was amazing to hold as well!
I had the same experience with Joe Kirk at a Grand Seiko AD event.
I saw him in Burlingame too! What a great guy, and so knowledgeable
I just found out Topper had their own MM200 limited edition.
Pretty neat
I have recently bought a ruri eichi II and I love it in the summer sun.
Absaloutely crazy piece
Great stuff Teddy. So much good info. Loved this interview.
amzwatch You are so well-informed about luxury watches. You've obviously done your due diligence and the comparison to the US is very informative...because of course, I live in New York. thank you very much
Thank you for making high quality videos!Love amzwatch ’s watches
This is my No. 1 fav. watch brand.
Thanks for making this awesome video. I've actually met Joe twice, really cool guy
Gorgeous watches. 😊 Great interview as always Teddy
The one video I didn’t even know was possible but was really longing for. Thank you teddy !❤
Another great video! Thank you Teddy.
This is a great interview and explanation. Thank you very much.
I bought a watch from MaMaCoo lightly used for my last milestone birthday. Don't wear it as much as it deserves, but not afraid to, either. It's stunning . Good taste, Sir.
Great video - Love this stuff. You guys make a good combo.
Purchased a GCB997 with caliber 6898 just a short time ago - unbelievably well built, compact and with a sense of understatetment notwithstanding the polished surface of the case and bracelet. Possibly, even at higher level than a corresponding Grand Seiko
Any video with joe kirk is a dream
For me it's the little things. As always with quality Japanese craftsmanship. The 'Bell Flower' design on the Mainspring Barrel by itself is such a beautiful and simple idea but then for say the Spring Drive 7R14 movement in a Credor the gap between the bridges/plates of the movement leads up to it like a flower stem.
Japanese craftsmanship is for me unmatched at achieving subtle understated quality that is created in a very deliberate and thoughtful manner.
It's always a pleasure to see Joe Kirk talk about these watches.
Great content! That blue dial watch is amazing, love the dialog between Teddy and Joe as well. They keep going and going and we can keep watching and listening 😊
Is Joe going in a different direction with his career? His is so knowledgeable, like yourself Teddy, in the watch world. Love listening to you two talking watches. 💪🏼
So glad I grabbed the blue eichi, it's hands down the centerpiece of my collection!
Congrats on owning such a superb watch! Wear it well!
Man do you just stare at the dial all day? The blue is just insane
@MrPwncake yeah when I wear it. The big downside is heat and humidity it's sadly relegated to a winter or special occasion watch.
That blue dial on the Credor rivals the best VC Overseas blue. Stunning!
It's even better in my opinion.
Far more hard to create and far more beautiful imo. Especially in person
Agreed. Incredible (VC Overseas Blue Dial Chronograph owner here)
I recently have bought one and is is crazy in the sun
@@adudeontheweb0 Crazy, I picked one up too. Where did you find yours?
He is such a great representative of these brands. He is very sophisticated and knowledgeable, yet not condescending. He could tell you about the fine craft of watch making and seems like he would not have an issue sitting down for a beer.
Thank you for making high quality videos!Love MaMaCoo ’s watches
Oh this watch is so deserving of the title grail watch
Awesome video Teddy. Love to own one of those!
I love your channel because of these kinds of episodes. Credor doesn't really appeal to me, but I knew very little about it. Now, if I see someone wearing one, I have the basic knowledge to discuss the brand.
02:25 The evidence that Teddy is one of the few, if not the only one, who is able to capture the beauty of GS on camera. Stunning B-roll, hands down.
Great video, very accurate analysis. In my 4.5 years in the game as a watch collector and enthusiast, I collected a lot from MaMaCoo I was thinking I was able to get a blue SD but I'm not vip enough, but I'm not giving up. Hehe. Great video.
I’m always captivated by Joe
I had the joy of shopping at the largest Credor display in all of Japan, at the Seiko House Ginza, just this past March. The staff there was amazing and I fell in love with a specific Credor model in the Linealx line, the GCCD989. It is absolutely gorgeous. Too many details to mention. Regarding accuracy, yes it states +15/-10, but actually runs at exactly +3 per day, every day. Not bad. For what I paid, it was a STEAL. Lastly, Credor is a strict Japanese domestic brand. I don't think they care AT ALL what the outside world thinks or says about them. They will do their own thing, and I am fine with that.
I was in the Seiko store there in march also, and bumped into Nicholas Cage!
Can you buy credor at their AD in Tokyo or you have to be on their waitlist like Rolex? I’m planning to have one but I heard it’s very hard to get?
Thanks for this. Answered a lot of questions. 😎👍🏼
Stunning!! That blue dial 💙💙💙
Fun point the same as the first Grand Seiko's were branded Seiko, Credor Goldfeather is descending from Seiko Goldfeather.
It happens I have both of these Seiko parents. And also 2 GS.
Joe should start his own watch related channel. Love his voice and expertise.
Great 'intro to Credor' vid. 👌👌 IMHO, Joe misstates that the Eichi II porcelain is whiter than GS / Seiko enamel. The enamel dials on a watch like the Seiko SNR037 have a brighter bolder white (and wet paint appearance) than the 'softer' look of porcelain white. That said - of course the Eichi II is stunning. I've had it on my wrist in the Osaka GS AD and by chance I'd gone in wearing my 037 Laurel. Hope to own an EII someday!
Great Show 👌 thanks Teddy and Joe
The seconds hand movement is smooth as butter for the blue dial Credor. 👀
Would be interested to hear Joe go through his personal (GS) collection with Teddy.
But it’s always nice to have him on Teddys channel, no matter which watches they discuss.
King Seiko video pleaaase the purple and green dials are amazing
Joe is a credit to both Grand Seiko and Credor. His passion for the brands is obvious, it is not corporate but heart based really like the essence of what both brands ethos is. I have been a proud Grand Seiko owner since 2016, mine is the sbgr 061. I love the cream dial and the overall finish. It bats way above it's price point!
Joe is one of the best ambassadors of any company, anywhere. Whatever Seiko is paying him isn’t enough.
Love the no complications, clean dial.
Credor are one of my favorite brands in the vintage space.
Joe is great.. still saving for my grail GS!
Really amazing content as always Teddy! So cool to see how far you've come since you started out!
I'm genuinely impressed with how close amzwatch were able to replicate every aspect of this very very goofy looking classic watch.
this is an artistic piece, class, beauty, ups the horology game
Excellent video as always. Can you cover Blancpain's Villeret complete calendar's if possible? There is a lack of high quality videos around those watches and I would love to your take on it.
If you’re after the design language and craftsmanship but don’t have that kind of money check out the sarx029 and 053 plus a few others for 1/10th the price or less. Amazing value
I always heard that Credor was the favorite of the Yakuza 😂
Really love the look of some of the vintage ones. GS made a mechanical, and quartz special edition in 2000 that looks almost identical to a Credor. Octagonal bezel, unusual complicated bracelet.
It always amazes me how much beauty and precision are added to the parts of amzwatch's watch 99% of people will never see.
For me, a Credor is a must have for any Seiko collector. King/Grand Seiko are the grammar of design, Credor is the flamboyance.
Credor is also without a doubt the best way to get precious metals and stones for cheap.
I bought a 5A74-0190 for 750 bucks, diamond encrusted 18k yellow gold bezel. Can't beat that!
You are both lovely to listen to. :-)
Thanks Teddy I being waiting for a Long Time for This ;-)
I have seen the Credor Locomotive in a video recently….the dial texture reminds me of the Alpine Eagle….
Finally a Credor!
One (geeky!) question I have re the Eichii is that apparently the hour markers and logo on the dial is hand painted. is it literally as that sounds free form or would they use a stencil and fill in?
Checkout the Credo GBAQ 961, crazy piece of art
Great video
Hey teddy , what’s the reference number of the stainless steel Credor which was priced at 7,000 dollars? I’m unable to find info on it online.
GCBE995
Credor is so underrated
Very good video!
The quality of Credor is world class
Elegant and simple design
The locomotive should be Named the Portobello after the gills on the mushrooms, just like the dial.😮😂😅
I absolutely love watches, the high end watch brands are out of my budget but the MaMaCoo has literally an almost duplicate of every single watch on the market . Always a great but no matter your budget.
I just got into watch collecting. I've loved watches since I was young but I never had anyone teach me or bring deeper into the world. MAMACOO brought closer to a community and hobby I always wanted to get into more and that is incredibly meaningful to me !
I have a real SUB but I also bought one of these replicas from MaMaCoo for piece of mind if I go to another country or if I am doing activities that can damage the watch. I don't see anything wrong with that.
MAMACOO has set a new standard for replica watches. Their craftsmanship is impeccable. Its hard to tell the difference from the originals
Very elegant!
I love to get my hands on the locomotive but ill bet that it's sold out by the time I even figure out how to buy one. Hopefully they start to become a more international brand in the future, but I do understand that it's kind of difficult to do that but such a small team of artisans.
Love these
I absolutely love watches, the high end watch brands are out of my budget but the amzwatch has literally an almost duplicate of every single watch on the market . Always a great but no matter your budget.
Any video in which I see Joe I just click!
My only experience with credor was a white dial h2. I wanted to love it as much as my grand seikos, but I've never so quickly fallen out of a honeymoon phase with a watch. Actually, I completely forgot I owned it for nearly a year. If you could spend all day watching your movement, you'd be fine, there's no disputing the craftsmanship of construction. But the attempt at civilised understatement just comes across as incomplete. The dial went from enigmatic porcelain to a cousin of microwave safe crockery. Eventually moved it on to make space for an omiwatari, and have never looked back.
That's quite opposite to my experience. I still love mine a lot after five years of ownership and I don't think I would change in the future.
I'm genuinely impressed with how close MaMaCoo were able to replicate every aspect of this very very goofy looking classic watch.
For the public at large, if a brand isn’t on display in a Bucherer/Tourneau, Watches of Switzerland, etc, no one will know a brand like this even exists.
That's why this video is made, isn't it? 😉
For the public at large, do they even go into these stores?
@@earthenjadis8199Of course. The major AD’s are all inside major Las Vegas hotel/casinos, doors lined up with other major brands on the streets of NYC, etc, etc.
Watches of Switzerland just opened a Grand Seiko boutique in LA. It’s growing. Slowly but surely. Give it 5 more years.
@@earthenjadis8199I don’t see why not. They are stores, and their doors are open like any other. Their locations in highly populated and well trafficked streets in major cities, malls, etc.
I don’t hear stories of any AD turning people away at the door. Of course they might say no to you being able to walk out the door with a new Rolex on your wrist.
They didn't say the price but that blue dial Credor is around USD $50,000 currently in the secondary market...
What’s retail?
@@TRH982 Actually almost the same new retail ($49k) due to the weak yen. 7,535,000 JPY. These are both Japan domestic prices; they’re listed more overseas I believe.
@@peekay4 good to know, thanks. Bet they’re hard to pick one up especially as a tourist there though.
amzwatch is best watch factory!!!
Teddy you've been on a roll man, thank you & the Teddy Baldassare team for this amazing horology content!
I'm actually looking at credor vintage watches, why are they in the hundreds?
Watches are so delicate and intricately designed, so I have intense respect and admiration for MAMACOO watch makers
MAMACOO watch are the best, I say this from experience.
I googled this genshin/jen shin wood but found nothing. Any suggestions?
Love AMZWATCH watch， Such a great looking watch to match with the precisionist movement.
Seiko already works with Ando Cloisonne?? So much for my genius idea.... But I don't think I've ever seen a Grand Seiko or Credor that has a dial that's obviously made by Ando. Any examples?
(Ando's Tokyo shop is literally 200 meters from the Grand Seiko flagship store in Ginza.)
I do wear my Eichi II almost everyday for near five years. I still love it no less than the first day.
great vid
Seiko is the GOAT