After about three attempts I finally got the vented dipstick to work - but not really. The dipstick itself works and does not leak, but...there's another problem. What's your guess? Also let me know if you've tried a vented dipstick on your Milwaukee Eight Softail, especially if you have any engine modifications. I have another solution on the way, not the Fueling vented dipstick, something else :)
Hey Brad - no worries at all. The Trask piece looks very nice. I decided to give it a go myself and last week I did my own version of the vented transmission top cover. I’m very pleased so far - full video coming in a week or so :) If you want a channel sticker send me a DM on Telegram or Instagram with the mailing info @RonsWorkshop
@@bradbaker9269 I posted the full video on my own transmission top cover vent solution. It's working great so far! ua-cam.com/video/U6gOhbRQrwE/v-deo.html
Hey Ron I installed the Trask performance transmission cover and it works great I have no signs of oil blow by in my breather tubes for my Arlen Ness air intake at all highly recommend thanks for your channel.... Like your work
Hey Brian - that’s great! Thanks for sharing that and for the feedback :) The Trask solution is very nice. About a week ago I finished my own transmission top cover vent and it’s working great. Full video coming in a few days. If you want a channel sticker send me a DM on Telegram or Instagram with the mailing info @RonsWorkshop
@@brianmartin8012 I posted the full video on my own transmission top cover vent solution. It's working great so far! ua-cam.com/video/U6gOhbRQrwE/v-deo.html
hello, I tried the fuel vented dipstick going into a DK catch can and had to give up as it was blowing out too much oil. Same problem as you were having with the standard set up you made. Standard motor okay riding around town, but when cruising blows oil out running four dots down on the dipstick will be trying the task cover next. Keep up the good videos.
Hey Raymun - thanks for the feedback. I’m happy to share as much info as I can - the good and the bad! If you want a channel sticker send me a DM on Telegram or Instagram with the mailing info @RonsWorkshop
I once left my Yamaha Stratoliner oil tank cap off its separate tank, and tried to start it.. oil pushed up/out of the top of the tank.. its nearly new, and just the engine rotation was causing the pressure changes, so I can see that oil saturation of the end filter happening
Thanks for the encouragement, Dalton! I appreciate any help in spreading the word too. Be sure to check out the crankcase vent video that I did as a follow-up to this one. It’s linked in the video card as well as the video description. If you want a channel sticker send me a DM on Telegram or Instagram with the mailing info @RonsWorkshop
I own a 2019 Road Glide Special with the Stage 2 Torque Cam. I have done this mod myself with airlines 8 mm. I also have a external breather mod. I have no issues with my mods, on the dipstick-filter is only a little bit of condensation/ water, no oil. The filter for the dipstick is located under my right sidecover in front of the ABS- Module. I‘ve done about 400 km with this mod because of the shitty weathet here in Germany. I run the bike quite hard, reving to 4/4.5 k. So far no Problems Best Regards, Monty
Hey Monty - that’s great news - I’m glad it is working well for you. For me it’s a total fail BUT just today I finished the project with a great solution. The company I was working with fell through but I tackled it myself using the transmission top cover and it seems like a very solid solution. Video coming soon! Hope you get some warm weather soon - keep riding hard!
If you didn’t put a check valve after the dipstick then you allowed the crank to build pressure and spit oil out as a result, if you did put a check valve and oil still was being spit out than maybe the umbrella valves located under the rocker covers may not be functioning properly and free breathing allowing small pressure to enter and exit from the case. Free breathing is not a huge problem if you ride like a grandpa with a stock bike but anything else, all relief vents to atmosphere need to have a check valve to at least equalize the case pressure or create a vacuum. If the pressure is at least properly equalized, then oil will not spit out. As you know, the only reason Harley does not do this is because of EPA does not allow venting to atmosphere.
Thanks Angel! I’m really excited about the new solution - it sounds very promising and it’s a bit different than the typical vented caps. I’ll be among the first to use it. If you want a channel sticker send me a DM on Instagram with the mailing info @RonsWorkshop
I installed the A1 cycles vented dipstick on my stage 3 street glide m8. Dropped the oil a fraction & mounted filter under the tank, no oil blowing out of filter at all. My m8 fxbb with stage 2 I did similar mod to dipstick as yours but running a motorbike fuel filter on end of the hose & mounted under the tank also, no excessive oil in the filter, just some discolouration on the element, I ride them both pretty hard. I think the filter needs to be as high as possible to allow the oil to seperate in the vapour & run back down the hose
Hey Chris - thanks for sharing that info! Glad to hear both solutions are working for you. I’ve tried it with the filter up high and down low with no success. I’m about to mod the transmission top cover and that will solve all the problems. Video coming soon!
Same here, A1 Cycles, 3 years so far, 2 oıil changes, 22K miles, no problem at all. Just a little oil mist inside the throttle body and no oil consumption, and strange enough I have a very high oil pressure measured by the HD shop tool. But I will still replace the stock oil pump.
Hey Mustafa - thanks for sharing that. Glad to hear it working well! Last week I finished the new solution for venting the crankcase using the transmission top cover. Full video coming soon! At some point I’d like to add the S&S cam plate and oil pump kit to mine.
Hi Ron just found your channel after doing almost the same dipstick mod as you with exactly the same results ! I have a stage 2 on my Sport Glide. The only difference is I used a Kuryakyn dipstick as it is made of a soft aluminium with a convenient round indent at the top to drill and tap. I have seen other posts about fitting filters with one way valves but that is to stop air going in so would not prevent oil exiting ! I will continue to experiment but have now ordered the Fuelling Vented Dipstick. Will be interested to see what your other company come up with and its cost !
Hey David - welcome to the channel! I have that exact same Kuryakyn dipstick too :) the other company I was talking to fell through, BUT, I’ve implemented my own venting solution that uses the transmission too cover and it is working extremely well. Full video coming in a day or so. If you want a channel sticker send me a DM on Telegram or Instagram with the mailing info @RonsWorkshop
Hey Jesse - thanks for sharing the info about your solution! The Trask top cover is really nice. I did a “DIY” crankcase vent solution that’s been working really well. If your interested, you can see it here: ua-cam.com/video/U6gOhbRQrwE/v-deo.html
I have had the same experience with the Feuling vented dipstick. Iv had a chat with Feuling and they have asked for me to do the sumping test. Ill let you know what i find. Bike is a lowrider
Hey Glen - thanks for sharing that! Last week I decided to try a different approach and I finished a crankcase venting solution that uses the transmission too cover. Full video coming soon.
Yes, the Trask piece is very nice. I did a diy project based on what I saw with theirs and it’s working well. Here’s a link to that one : ua-cam.com/video/U6gOhbRQrwE/v-deo.html I’ll be posting a follow-up video in a couple of weeks.
I just have a stage 1. I drilled my dipstick about like you did, except I had actually filled the dipstick with rtv sealant. I couldn't get it to stop leaking before this. I ran the uni filter up under the tank, between the cylinders and it still leaks out the filter. A very small amount, maybe 2 tablespoons on a 100 mile ride. Still frustrating. This has allowed my engine to run significantly cooler though. I'm excited to see what you get your hands on next
Hey Ric - thanks for sharing your set up and how it’s working! I’ve ridden with the new solution for about ten rides and it’s really working well. The company I was working with fell through, so I tackled it myself. Full video coming soon. If you want a channel sticker send me a DM on Telegram or Instagram with the mailing info @RonsWorkshop
Have you considered lowering the amount of oil in the tank. I know A1 specifically tells you that you must bring oil level down or you will have oil escaping through the uni filter. Also they suggest running the line and filter up under the gas tank so it has limited opportunity to be influenced by outside air when your riding. I bought the A1 but havent installed it yet.
Hey David - thanks for sharing that - it's very interesting. I'm not so sure I am comfortable reducing the amount of oil. I've also realized that under cornering and acceleration the oil is pushed to the back of the tank, up through the foam, into the hose, hose and gets pushed out the filter. I now have a solid plan for a solution that won't lose oil, that is based on the other option I mentioned in the video - that company's product didn't pan out but I now know the "secret". I hope to tackle it tomorrow and post the follow-up video within a week or so. Let me know how it goes with your A1 dipstick.
Hey SPRFLY - that sucks! The company I was talking with fell through, so I’ll be using my own plan using the transmission top cover but confidence is high. Video will be out soon. My next solution could be an option for you.
The fill level in your oil tank matters. You don’t need 5 quarts of oil. I was having oil escaping from my Fueling vented dipstick until I changed the oil. This time, I used a 4 liter jug of oil. 4 liters is equal to about 4.2 quarts. The bike runs great. The oil pressure seems to be adequate. And there is no more oil emerging from the top of the Fueling dipstick. And I have the M8 107” to 114” Stage IV (including head external breathers).
@@briandickter2724 Thanks for sharing that! Last week I finished my venting solution that uses the transmission top cover. Full video coming soon. How do you like the Stage IV kit? In retrospect I think I would have been better off with that instead of Stage III.
I have a stage 2 on my 2018 Breakout 114 and I have the Fueling breather. I do not have the hose & filter hooked up to it. I just used the screen fitting and I get a little blow out once in a while, but not a big mess or anything, just a few small drops. I do ride hard at high rpm's. Seems like a great product. Does what it says.
Hey Bad1 - thanks for sharing that! Most people are pleased with the Fueling dipstick. Your the first I’ve heard from that’s not using the hose and filter - I like that option. For my solution, I ended up doing my own vent in the transmission too cover and it’s working really well. The video should be up tomorrow :) If you want a channel sticker send me a DM on Telegram or Instagram with the mailing info @RonsWorkshop
I think one of the biggest flaws here was stuffing the lawn mower filter under the cap. That'll collect oil, and with the pressure pushing upwards and trying to escape out the breather hole, it's going to squirt all that oil out with it.
Hey MOPARman345 HEMI - yeah that’s a good point. I also think it would need a check valve or reed valve of some sort to really have a chance of working.
Hi,I have a 2020 R.K. 107, using a mad monkey VENTED dipstick, A D.C. customs VENTED head breather system. I added a stage 1,with a tune. So far no problem or leaking.
When the engine is venting into the intake u are keeping it under vaccum when u do a external breather at the intake u take that away then u add a completely open vent at the dip stick .. u will lose all your oil .. the fueling dip stick works because it burps past a rubber diaphragm it’s not constantly open
I ordered mine on the 26th of last month haven't received a email when I'm supposed to get it but from what I was told it will solve the problem with oil being pushed to the breather bolts...
So I installed my Feuling 3088 vented dipstick, but weirdly I have not ridden the bike. I routed the hose and fastened it along with the filter to the frame. When I tried to take the stock dispstick out, it was stuck. Guess it froze in place because of the bike being stored in a cold garage. So I figured to ride the bike and it would loossened it. 50 miles later, it came right off like normal. Never has this happened to me before. I then installed the dipstick so I could clock it. Install is done but I would have to wait till next week when the weather gets a bit hotter to try it. I cleaned my intake so when I do my 25k service, I will check if there is less oil coming thru the breather. I do not want to do the upper breather if doing the dipstick minimizes the amount of oil. Wil stay tune to find the new solution. My issue with Feuling would be how much money I would need to spend to maintain the dipstick. Does anyone knows if there is a washable filter so we do not have to keep replacing the UP-101? Ride safe!!!!
Hey Jose thanks for sharing that! I’ve had the dipstick sort of get stuck when the o-ring is dry but nothing like what you had. Definitely post an update once you see how the fueling does! Also - the Uni is washable so you can just clean it periodically.
Don’t need oil - according to the Uni website “Uni's breathers are made of a new washable urethane which needs no oil or special cleaners.” Nice and simple!
meant to run the uni filter up under your tank (between the rocker boxes), hose was too short. Been running my stage 4 117 with that set up on a vented dip stick for 5000 miles zero issues apart from the smell of course. But the Uni filter looks dry, i only fill to 3 or 4 dots from top of where the hot mark is on the dip stick also.
Thanks for the info! How do you like Stage 4? I’m wondering if I should have gone with 4 instead of 3. I thought the rpm power band would be too high for practical street riding but I’m not so sure now. If you want a channel sticker send me a DM on Telegram or Instagram with the mailing info @RonsWorkshop
@@RonsWorkshop stage 4 is ok to preserve warranty but its just an EPA compliant attempt at horse power, an aftermarket cam in your stage 3 will prob get the same numbers if not better than stage 4
I’ve did my own mod on a 2018 ultra limited mine is a twin cooled and that allowed me to utilize the oil return port that is on the oil cooled bikes behind the transmission. Drilled and tapped the plug and ran a hose with a filter to the side cover and I haven’t had any problems with oil coming out
Hey David - thanks for sharing your solution! The approach I’ll take to resolve this will be very different than what I tried with the vented dipstick, but expectations are high! I hope to do the project tomorrow and get the video posted within a week or so.
I have stage 2 on my 107 vented my own stock dip stick with oneway valve at end to prevent drawback. No oil out of anything. I have run without oneway filter and a small brass filter no problems. You motor i suspect has a piston ring sealing issue do a leakdown check to rule that out.
@@RonsWorkshop hi ron thete also seems to be differences between touring modeks and softails with the former seemingly benefiting from the tranny breather.
I’m trying to find a Harley source to verify a few things but I don’t know how that will go. I’m about to post a follow-up video about the transmission too cover vent where I share about crankcase vacuum.
@@RonsWorkshop yep lots of keyboard experts on interweb. I am fortunate to be able to rely very heavily on a very talented and reliable harley tech for my info and we have tested ext breathers dip stick breathers auto tuners vs dyno tunes on my 2018 m8. Any motor will benefit from more crankcase breathing but there is little point if you just suck air back in on up stroke without 1 way filter. As every motor has some amount of positive crank case pressure due to piston ring blow by my trusted tech advised me to use a 1 way valve. I have tested with and without and cant tell any difference but continue to run the valve.
Thanks for passing along more info! In the video that I’m releasing tomorrow I show what I found when measuring crankcase pressure and vacuum. Be sure to check it out.
@@RonsWorkshop according to what was told to me by a1 cycles.. all the m8 dip sticks are the same and the ones listed as “touring” will fit our street bob fxbb
Put the fueling dip stick on my 2018 slim. I really think it revs better no oil in the breather .BUT The Trask solution looks better wish I would have waited just a little longer .
Hey Ken - thanks for letting us know how the Fueling worked for you. Yes, the Trask piece is quite nice. The company I was talking with fell through, so I’ll be using my own plan using the top cover but confidence is high. Video will be out soon.
I know the “Fueling ext vent” will fix all that problem but it is sure pricey, I’m going to have to bite the bullet and save all my pennies and get one for my FLTRX 🤔
Hey edward1967able - yeah Fueling is good from what I’ve heard. For mine, I ended up adding a vent to the transmission too cover and it’s working great! Fell video coming tomorrow.
Hey Dj M8 - yeah that’s a possibility. I almost tried that in fact. Good news is the solution I just finished two days ago is working great. No dipstick vent - I used the transmission top cover to vent the crankcase. The company I was working with fell through so I tackled it myself. Video coming soon! If you want a channel sticker send me a DM on Telegram or Instagram with the mailing info @RonsWorkshop
I did but I’m debating whether or not it’s necessary. I’ve heard that a bit of vacuum can be good for helping pull oil down into the crankcase. At least with the check valve it allows excess pressure to blow off and should greatly reduce or eliminate blow-by. It’s running great and pulling hard with the check valve.
Fueling vented dipstick costs money but a real engineered product does.Sumping is now traced to 1 in 1000 bikes from what I hear. Install a fueling camchest and oils pump and your done I have no relationship with Fueling but ran a fueling oiling system in a big inch builds years ago with great success. Our motorcycles cost top dollar and the parts we install should reflect that.
Hey Vincent - thanks for the input! I agree the Fueling solution is a nice one and very well engineered. I love the idea of upgrading the whole oiling system. For the crankcase venting, I plan to go a different route and that video will be out very soon.
Hey JeepBully Jk - thanks for the input! Last week I finished adding a vent to the transmission top cover and it’s working great. Full video coming soon!
Hey Joey - thanks for the kind words! Here are links for the 3/16” and 1/4” check valves: amzn.to/2P4qpQs amzn.to/2Ptqz3V I’ll double-check the video description as well. And if you want a sticker send me a DM on Telegram, Instagram or Signal with the mailing info @RonsWorkshop
Be sure to check the crankcase vent video as well: Alternative To M8 Vented Dipstick • DIY Transmission Top Cover Vent • Softail Street Bob FXBB ua-cam.com/video/U6gOhbRQrwE/v-deo.html And the important follow-up: ua-cam.com/video/BaG1VdOFe48/v-deo.html
Hey Mark - I'm guessing you'd benefit from venting the crankcase. One simple check you could do is to get a plastic bag, fire up the bike, and remove the dipstick. Then tape or hold the plastic bag over the dipstick hole. If that bag inflates like a balloon you'll know you have positive crankcase pressure and adding either a vented dipstick or a crankcase vent should alleviate that. Let me know if you try that and what you decide to do. And if you want a sticker send me a DM on Telegram, Instagram or Signal with the mailing info @RonsWorkshop (international is no problem)
Hey Brian - yep - looking at that option. May do my own version of that but theirs is very strong. Not crazy about the reed valve because I think it would be good to allow the pressure to flow both directions.
I wish they would ship overseas! I’d run a vented cover over a vented dipstick anytime! Regarding the reed valve: It seems like you need some pressure (vacuum?) pulling oil through bearings and the reed valve ought to keep that pressure up. Need to do some more research on it, though.
Hey Marco - I’m sure there’s a way to work around that overseas restriction. Let me know if you find anything in your research about the vacuum. I’m about to implement my own case vent with no check valve. Keep an eye out for my next video :)
My M3 Ventilator arrived the other day. Installed this afternoon. Had to suck out quite a bit of oil, per directions. So far, first ride, now leaks, filter is clean, and no issues. Will update when I have more miles racked up.
Skip the vented Dipstick…they are annoying and do not work. Instead take off your Gearbox Lid, drill a 8mm. hole in the right corner next to the rear cylinder, cut a thread with a 1/8 NPT Tap, get a 90* degree vent brass elbow from ACE and mount it in the hole with a little teflon tape. Mount a foot long rubber hose and a Crank filter, route it in under the seat or where you can and problems solved for 10-12$ 👍🏻 I did it myself and my 2017 FLHTK has run 35000 miles without ANY issues ✊🏻☠️
Hey Chris - I’m with you on that. Your solution is very similar to what I did here, and it works extremely well: ua-cam.com/video/U6gOhbRQrwE/v-deo.html
After about three attempts I finally got the vented dipstick to work - but not really. The dipstick itself works and does not leak, but...there's another problem. What's your guess? Also let me know if you've tried a vented dipstick on your Milwaukee Eight Softail, especially if you have any engine modifications. I have another solution on the way, not the Fueling vented dipstick, something else :)
Hi Ron Have a look at the Trask performance Check m8 tranny top cover. by far the best spot for venting solves lots of issues
Ill take that back sorry didnt read that far down the comments
Hey Brad - no worries at all. The Trask piece looks very nice. I decided to give it a go myself and last week I did my own version of the vented transmission top cover. I’m very pleased so far - full video coming in a week or so :)
If you want a channel sticker send me a DM on Telegram or Instagram with the mailing info @RonsWorkshop
@@bradbaker9269 I posted the full video on my own transmission top cover vent solution. It's working great so far! ua-cam.com/video/U6gOhbRQrwE/v-deo.html
Hey Ron I installed the Trask performance transmission cover and it works great I have no signs of oil blow by in my breather tubes for my Arlen Ness air intake at all highly recommend thanks for your channel.... Like your work
Hey Brian - that’s great! Thanks for sharing that and for the feedback :)
The Trask solution is very nice. About a week ago I finished my own transmission top cover vent and it’s working great. Full video coming in a few days.
If you want a channel sticker send me a DM on Telegram or Instagram with the mailing info @RonsWorkshop
I will be looking forward to you having a segment on your page for install it's a great product
@@brianmartin8012 I posted the full video on my own transmission top cover vent solution. It's working great so far! ua-cam.com/video/U6gOhbRQrwE/v-deo.html
hello, I tried the fuel vented dipstick going into a DK catch can and had to give up as it was blowing out too much oil. Same problem as you were having with the standard set up you made. Standard motor okay riding around town, but when cruising blows oil out running four dots down on the dipstick will be trying the task cover next. Keep up the good videos.
Hey Gary - Thank you for the kind words! Be sure to check out the other videos on sumping and crankcase pressure: bit.ly/softail_sumping_playlist
Thank You for your complete honesty.
Hey Raymun - thanks for the feedback. I’m happy to share as much info as I can - the good and the bad!
If you want a channel sticker send me a DM on Telegram or Instagram with the mailing info @RonsWorkshop
I once left my Yamaha Stratoliner oil tank cap off its separate tank, and tried to start it.. oil pushed up/out of the top of the tank.. its nearly new, and just the engine rotation was causing the pressure changes, so I can see that oil saturation of the end filter happening
Yeah and I my case I think it was cornering under acceleration that sent the oil through the outlet.
channel is very underrated.
Thanks for the encouragement, Dalton! I appreciate any help in spreading the word too.
Be sure to check out the crankcase vent video that I did as a follow-up to this one. It’s linked in the video card as well as the video description.
If you want a channel sticker send me a DM on Telegram or Instagram with the mailing info @RonsWorkshop
I own a 2019 Road Glide Special with the Stage 2 Torque Cam. I have done this mod myself with airlines 8 mm. I also have a external breather mod. I have no issues with my mods, on the dipstick-filter is only a little bit of condensation/ water, no oil. The filter for the dipstick is located under my right sidecover in front of the ABS- Module. I‘ve done about 400 km with this mod because of the shitty weathet here in Germany. I run the bike quite hard, reving to 4/4.5 k.
So far no Problems
Best Regards, Monty
Hey Monty - that’s great news - I’m glad it is working well for you. For me it’s a total fail BUT just today I finished the project with a great solution. The company I was working with fell through but I tackled it myself using the transmission top cover and it seems like a very solid solution. Video coming soon!
Hope you get some warm weather soon - keep riding hard!
I posted the full video on my own transmission top cover vent solution. It's working great so far! ua-cam.com/video/U6gOhbRQrwE/v-deo.html
If you didn’t put a check valve after the dipstick then you allowed the crank to build pressure and spit oil out as a result, if you did put a check valve and oil still was being spit out than maybe the umbrella valves located under the rocker covers may not be functioning properly and free breathing allowing small pressure to enter and exit from the case. Free breathing is not a huge problem if you ride like a grandpa with a stock bike but anything else, all relief vents to atmosphere need to have a check valve to at least equalize the case pressure or create a vacuum. If the pressure is at least properly equalized, then oil will not spit out. As you know, the only reason Harley does not do this is because of EPA does not allow venting to atmosphere.
Hey Truetrades - thanks for sharing that info.
Fuling dip stick works great no problems
That’s a nice piece for sure.
Looking forward to the update .. keep up the good work 👍🏼🇺🇸
Thanks Angel! I’m really excited about the new solution - it sounds very promising and it’s a bit different than the typical vented caps. I’ll be among the first to use it.
If you want a channel sticker send me a DM on Instagram with the mailing info @RonsWorkshop
@@RonsWorkshop awesome can’t wait 👌🏽 unfortunately I do not have IG 😔 lol ... you have an email ?
I posted the full video on my own transmission top cover vent solution. It's working great so far! ua-cam.com/video/U6gOhbRQrwE/v-deo.html
@@RonsWorkshop I will check it out 👍🏼🇺🇸
I installed the A1 cycles vented dipstick on my stage 3 street glide m8. Dropped the oil a fraction & mounted filter under the tank, no oil blowing out of filter at all. My m8 fxbb with stage 2 I did similar mod to dipstick as yours but running a motorbike fuel filter on end of the hose & mounted under the tank also, no excessive oil in the filter, just some discolouration on the element, I ride them both pretty hard. I think the filter needs to be as high as possible to allow the oil to seperate in the vapour & run back down the hose
Hey Chris - thanks for sharing that info! Glad to hear both solutions are working for you. I’ve tried it with the filter up high and down low with no success. I’m about to mod the transmission top cover and that will solve all the problems. Video coming soon!
Same here, A1 Cycles, 3 years so far, 2 oıil changes, 22K miles, no problem at all. Just a little oil mist inside the throttle body and no oil consumption, and strange enough I have a very high oil pressure measured by the HD shop tool. But I will still replace the stock oil pump.
Hey Mustafa - thanks for sharing that. Glad to hear it working well! Last week I finished the new solution for venting the crankcase using the transmission top cover. Full video coming soon!
At some point I’d like to add the S&S cam plate and oil pump kit to mine.
I posted the full video on my own transmission top cover vent solution. It's working great so far! ua-cam.com/video/U6gOhbRQrwE/v-deo.html
Hi Ron just found your channel after doing almost the same dipstick mod as you with exactly the same results ! I have a stage 2 on my Sport Glide. The only difference is I used a Kuryakyn dipstick as it is made of a soft aluminium with a convenient round indent at the top to drill and tap. I have seen other posts about fitting filters with one way valves but that is to stop air going in so would not prevent oil exiting ! I will continue to experiment but have now ordered the Fuelling Vented Dipstick. Will be interested to see what your other company come up with and its cost !
Hey David - welcome to the channel! I have that exact same Kuryakyn dipstick too :) the other company I was talking to fell through, BUT, I’ve implemented my own venting solution that uses the transmission too cover and it is working extremely well. Full video coming in a day or so.
If you want a channel sticker send me a DM on Telegram or Instagram with the mailing info @RonsWorkshop
I posted the full video on my own transmission top cover vent solution. It's working great so far! ua-cam.com/video/U6gOhbRQrwE/v-deo.html
Vented dip stick didn’t work for my S&S 128. Trask CheckM8 has been a solid choice. No leaking, clean look, and has helped with any blow by in the A/C
Hey Jesse - thanks for sharing the info about your solution! The Trask top cover is really nice. I did a “DIY” crankcase vent solution that’s been working really well. If your interested, you can see it here: ua-cam.com/video/U6gOhbRQrwE/v-deo.html
I have had the same experience with the Feuling vented dipstick. Iv had a chat with Feuling and they have asked for me to do the sumping test.
Ill let you know what i find.
Bike is a lowrider
Definitely let me know! I think they also recommend running the oil level a bit lower than usual. But I’m not certain.
Try using 6 once’s less oil!! I had oil blow out with it filled to the full line. Then took 6 once’s out and no trouble dry!
Hey Glen - thanks for sharing that! Last week I decided to try a different approach and I finished a crankcase venting solution that uses the transmission too cover. Full video coming soon.
I posted the full video on my own transmission top cover vent solution. It's working great so far! ua-cam.com/video/U6gOhbRQrwE/v-deo.html
The tusk cover is the only method that works reliably IMO. It’s just like the old PCV smog stuff we had to put on in the late 70s.
Yes, the Trask piece is very nice. I did a diy project based on what I saw with theirs and it’s working well. Here’s a link to that one : ua-cam.com/video/U6gOhbRQrwE/v-deo.html I’ll be posting a follow-up video in a couple of weeks.
@@RonsWorkshop thanks that very clever.
I just have a stage 1. I drilled my dipstick about like you did, except I had actually filled the dipstick with rtv sealant. I couldn't get it to stop leaking before this. I ran the uni filter up under the tank, between the cylinders and it still leaks out the filter. A very small amount, maybe 2 tablespoons on a 100 mile ride. Still frustrating. This has allowed my engine to run significantly cooler though. I'm excited to see what you get your hands on next
Hey Ric - thanks for sharing your set up and how it’s working! I’ve ridden with the new solution for about ten rides and it’s really working well. The company I was working with fell through, so I tackled it myself. Full video coming soon.
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Have you considered lowering the amount of oil in the tank. I know A1 specifically tells you that you must bring oil level down or you will have oil escaping through the uni filter. Also they suggest running the line and filter up under the gas tank so it has limited opportunity to be influenced by outside air when your riding. I bought the A1 but havent installed it yet.
Hey David - thanks for sharing that - it's very interesting. I'm not so sure I am comfortable reducing the amount of oil. I've also realized that under cornering and acceleration the oil is pushed to the back of the tank, up through the foam, into the hose, hose and gets pushed out the filter. I now have a solid plan for a solution that won't lose oil, that is based on the other option I mentioned in the video - that company's product didn't pan out but I now know the "secret". I hope to tackle it tomorrow and post the follow-up video within a week or so. Let me know how it goes with your A1 dipstick.
I've tried the A1,same results as yours. Even with dropping the oil level.
Hey SPRFLY - that sucks! The company I was talking with fell through, so I’ll be using my own plan using the transmission top cover but confidence is high. Video will be out soon. My next solution could be an option for you.
The fill level in your oil tank matters. You don’t need 5 quarts of oil. I was having oil escaping from my Fueling vented dipstick until I changed the oil. This time, I used a 4 liter jug of oil. 4 liters is equal to about 4.2 quarts. The bike runs great. The oil pressure seems to be adequate. And there is no more oil emerging from the top of the Fueling dipstick. And I have the M8 107” to 114” Stage IV (including head external breathers).
@@briandickter2724 Thanks for sharing that! Last week I finished my venting solution that uses the transmission top cover. Full video coming soon. How do you like the Stage IV kit? In retrospect I think I would have been better off with that instead of Stage III.
I have a stage 2 on my 2018 Breakout 114 and I have the Fueling breather. I do not have the hose & filter hooked up to it. I just used the screen fitting and I get a little blow out once in a while, but not a big mess or anything, just a few small drops. I do ride hard at high rpm's. Seems like a great product. Does what it says.
Hey Bad1 - thanks for sharing that! Most people are pleased with the Fueling dipstick. Your the first I’ve heard from that’s not using the hose and filter - I like that option.
For my solution, I ended up doing my own vent in the transmission too cover and it’s working really well. The video should be up tomorrow :)
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I think one of the biggest flaws here was stuffing the lawn mower filter under the cap. That'll collect oil, and with the pressure pushing upwards and trying to escape out the breather hole, it's going to squirt all that oil out with it.
Hey MOPARman345 HEMI - yeah that’s a good point. I also think it would need a check valve or reed valve of some sort to really have a chance of working.
Hi,I have a 2020 R.K. 107, using a mad monkey VENTED dipstick, A D.C. customs VENTED head breather system. I added a stage 1,with a tune. So far no problem or leaking.
Hey Hank - thanks for sharing that info!
When the engine is venting into the intake u are keeping it under vaccum when u do a external breather at the intake u take that away then u add a completely open vent at the dip stick .. u will lose all your oil .. the fueling dip stick works because it burps past a rubber diaphragm it’s not constantly open
Agreed!
I ordered mine on the 26th of last month haven't received a email when I'm supposed to get it but from what I was told it will solve the problem with oil being pushed to the breather bolts...
Yeah and now they’re at bike week! I may end up with one too. Let me know how it goes for you.
So I installed my Feuling 3088 vented dipstick, but weirdly I have not ridden the bike. I routed the hose and fastened it along with the filter to the frame. When I tried to take the stock dispstick out, it was stuck. Guess it froze in place because of the bike being stored in a cold garage. So I figured to ride the bike and it would loossened it. 50 miles later, it came right off like normal. Never has this happened to me before. I then installed the dipstick so I could clock it. Install is done but I would have to wait till next week when the weather gets a bit hotter to try it. I cleaned my intake so when I do my 25k service, I will check if there is less oil coming thru the breather. I do not want to do the upper breather if doing the dipstick minimizes the amount of oil. Wil stay tune to find the new solution. My issue with Feuling would be how much money I would need to spend to maintain the dipstick. Does anyone knows if there is a washable filter so we do not have to keep replacing the UP-101? Ride safe!!!!
Hey Jose thanks for sharing that! I’ve had the dipstick sort of get stuck when the o-ring is dry but nothing like what you had. Definitely post an update once you see how the fueling does! Also - the Uni is washable so you can just clean it periodically.
@@RonsWorkshop And then oiled it with K&N oil?
Don’t need oil - according to the Uni website “Uni's breathers are made of a new washable urethane which needs no oil or special cleaners.”
Nice and simple!
meant to run the uni filter up under your tank (between the rocker boxes), hose was too short. Been running my stage 4 117 with that set up on a vented dip stick for 5000 miles zero issues apart from the smell of course. But the Uni filter looks dry, i only fill to 3 or 4 dots from top of where the hot mark is on the dip stick also.
Thanks for the info! How do you like Stage 4? I’m wondering if I should have gone with 4 instead of 3. I thought the rpm power band would be too high for practical street riding but I’m not so sure now.
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@@RonsWorkshop stage 4 is ok to preserve warranty
but its just an EPA compliant attempt at horse power, an aftermarket cam in your stage 3 will prob get the same numbers if not better than stage 4
I’ve got three months of warranty left, and then... 😎
I’ve did my own mod on a 2018 ultra limited mine is a twin cooled and that allowed me to utilize the oil return port that is on the oil cooled bikes behind the transmission. Drilled and tapped the plug and ran a hose with a filter to the side cover and I haven’t had any problems with oil coming out
Hey David - thanks for sharing your solution! The approach I’ll take to resolve this will be very different than what I tried with the vented dipstick, but expectations are high! I hope to do the project tomorrow and get the video posted within a week or so.
I posted the full video on my own transmission top cover vent solution. It's working great so far! ua-cam.com/video/U6gOhbRQrwE/v-deo.html
I have stage 2 on my 107 vented my own stock dip stick with oneway valve at end to prevent drawback. No oil out of anything. I have run without oneway filter and a small brass filter no problems. You motor i suspect has a piston ring sealing issue do a leakdown check to rule that out.
Hey Shane - thanks for sharing that info!
@@RonsWorkshop hi ron thete also seems to be differences between touring modeks and softails with the former seemingly benefiting from the tranny breather.
I’m trying to find a Harley source to verify a few things but I don’t know how that will go. I’m about to post a follow-up video about the transmission too cover vent where I share about crankcase vacuum.
@@RonsWorkshop yep lots of keyboard experts on interweb. I am fortunate to be able to rely very heavily on a very talented and reliable harley tech for my info and we have tested ext breathers dip stick breathers auto tuners vs dyno tunes on my 2018 m8. Any motor will benefit from more crankcase breathing but there is little point if you just suck air back in on up stroke without 1 way filter. As every motor has some amount of positive crank case pressure due to piston ring blow by my trusted tech advised me to use a 1 way valve. I have tested with and without and cant tell any difference but continue to run the valve.
Thanks for passing along more info! In the video that I’m releasing tomorrow I show what I found when measuring crankcase pressure and vacuum. Be sure to check it out.
Ron.. have you looked into A1cycles Ventilator oil cap replacement.. it’s half the cost of the fueling oil vented cap..
Hey Eric - Yes, I have seen theirs but it doesn’t look like they have it for the Softails - only touring bikes and dynas :(
@@RonsWorkshop according to what was told to me by a1 cycles.. all the m8 dip sticks are the same and the ones listed as “touring” will fit our street bob fxbb
The problem is the touring bikes have a threaded screw-in cap and the Softails are a twist-lock cap. Oh I wish...
I posted the full video on my own transmission top cover vent solution. It's working great so far! ua-cam.com/video/U6gOhbRQrwE/v-deo.html
Put the fueling dip stick on my 2018 slim. I really think it revs better no oil in the breather .BUT The Trask solution looks better wish I would have waited just a little longer .
Hey Ken - thanks for letting us know how the Fueling worked for you. Yes, the Trask piece is quite nice. The company I was talking with fell through, so I’ll be using my own plan using the top cover but confidence is high. Video will be out soon.
I posted the full video on my own transmission top cover vent solution. It's working great so far! ua-cam.com/video/U6gOhbRQrwE/v-deo.html
I know the “Fueling ext vent” will fix all that problem but it is sure pricey, I’m going to have to bite the bullet and save all my pennies and get one for my FLTRX 🤔
Hey edward1967able - yeah Fueling is good from what I’ve heard. For mine, I ended up adding a vent to the transmission too cover and it’s working great! Fell video coming tomorrow.
I posted the full video on my own transmission top cover vent solution. It's working great so far! ua-cam.com/video/U6gOhbRQrwE/v-deo.html
Thanks for the info, you could try putting 2 loops(360°) in the hose that might stop the oil from making it to the filter, ride safe
Hey Dj M8 - yeah that’s a possibility. I almost tried that in fact. Good news is the solution I just finished two days ago is working great. No dipstick vent - I used the transmission top cover to vent the crankcase. The company I was working with fell through so I tackled it myself. Video coming soon!
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That's probably the best way of venting it,did you install a check valve in line?
I did but I’m debating whether or not it’s necessary. I’ve heard that a bit of vacuum can be good for helping pull oil down into the crankcase. At least with the check valve it allows excess pressure to blow off and should greatly reduce or eliminate blow-by. It’s running great and pulling hard with the check valve.
@@wtf0101 I posted the full video on my own transmission top cover vent solution. It's working great so far! ua-cam.com/video/U6gOhbRQrwE/v-deo.html
Fueling vented dipstick costs money but a real engineered product does.Sumping is now traced to 1 in 1000 bikes from what I hear.
Install a fueling camchest and oils pump and your done I have no relationship with Fueling but ran a fueling oiling system in a big inch builds years ago with great success. Our motorcycles cost top dollar and the parts we install should reflect that.
Hey Vincent - thanks for the input! I agree the Fueling solution is a nice one and very well engineered. I love the idea of upgrading the whole oiling system. For the crankcase venting, I plan to go a different route and that video will be out very soon.
I posted the full video on my own transmission top cover vent solution. It's working great so far! ua-cam.com/video/U6gOhbRQrwE/v-deo.html
You need smaller vent holes and a one way valve and it’ll not puke oil
Hey JeepBully Jk - thanks for the input! Last week I finished adding a vent to the transmission top cover and it’s working great. Full video coming soon!
I posted the full video on my own transmission top cover vent solution. It's working great so far! ua-cam.com/video/U6gOhbRQrwE/v-deo.html
I don’t see a link for the check valve. Great video btw
Hey Joey - thanks for the kind words!
Here are links for the 3/16” and 1/4” check valves:
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I’ll double-check the video description as well.
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Be sure to check the crankcase vent video as well:
Alternative To M8 Vented Dipstick • DIY Transmission Top Cover Vent • Softail Street Bob FXBB
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G'day Ron hope your doing ok,just picked up a 2022 fatboy do you reckon a need a vented dipstick the engine is a 114 stock standard, cheers mate
Hey Mark - I'm guessing you'd benefit from venting the crankcase. One simple check you could do is to get a plastic bag, fire up the bike, and remove the dipstick. Then tape or hold the plastic bag over the dipstick hole. If that bag inflates like a balloon you'll know you have positive crankcase pressure and adding either a vented dipstick or a crankcase vent should alleviate that. Let me know if you try that and what you decide to do.
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Cheers Ron most appreciated 👍 🍺
Trash performance.... Transmission cover vented
Trask profromince
Hey Brian - yep - looking at that option. May do my own version of that but theirs is very strong. Not crazy about the reed valve because I think it would be good to allow the pressure to flow both directions.
I wish they would ship overseas! I’d run a vented cover over a vented dipstick anytime!
Regarding the reed valve: It seems like you need some pressure (vacuum?) pulling oil through bearings and the reed valve ought to keep that pressure up. Need to do some more research on it, though.
Trask profromince vented transmission cover is on it's way.... Talked to them yesterday mines in the next batch being shipped out.... Let you all know
Hey Marco - I’m sure there’s a way to work around that overseas restriction. Let me know if you find anything in your research about the vacuum. I’m about to implement my own case vent with no check valve. Keep an eye out for my next video :)
M3 Mad Monkey Motorsports makes a less expensive vented billet aluminum dipstick.
Hey Pog Mo Thoin - yes they do, but only for the touring bikes that use the screw-in dipstick.
Didn't realize, I ordered mine the other day, waiting to arrive and install, fingers crossed.
Let me know how it goes!
My M3 Ventilator arrived the other day. Installed this afternoon. Had to suck out quite a bit of oil, per directions. So far, first ride, now leaks, filter is clean, and no issues. Will update when I have more miles racked up.
Excellent!! That’s great to hear. Be sure to try hard acceleration and left-hand cornering.
I'll let you know how it works as soon as I get it....
Skip the vented Dipstick…they are annoying and do not work. Instead take off your Gearbox Lid, drill a 8mm. hole in the right corner next to the rear cylinder, cut a thread with a 1/8 NPT Tap, get a 90* degree vent brass elbow from ACE and mount it in the hole with a little teflon tape. Mount a foot long rubber hose and a Crank filter, route it in under the seat or where you can and problems solved for 10-12$ 👍🏻
I did it myself and my 2017 FLHTK has run 35000 miles without ANY issues ✊🏻☠️
Hey Chris - I’m with you on that. Your solution is very similar to what I did here, and it works extremely well: ua-cam.com/video/U6gOhbRQrwE/v-deo.html
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It’s because u have no vaccum anymore
Yeah the crankcase vent works much better with no issues.