There is the classic coders problem though. Console programs lust after the shear power of a PC. Mean while PC programers dream of only having to support One hardware configuration.
It's not all that crazy because said machine solely created for games is unfortunately also a closed system and everything you are allowed to do with it, they have to specifically allow you first. So they lag behind in features and graphics basically always. We do have PCs that were solely created for gaming, which would be most gaming laptops, or PC handhelds like the Steam Deck. Just because a machine can be used for more things doesn't mean it can't also be the best at one thing another machine was exclusively made for
One of the worst things about the marketplace is the fact that, if you buy an addon, you don't actually get the addon. You get a world that has the addon, and that world is the only world that the addon is usable on. On pc (and maybe mobile, idk), you can extract the addon from the world by going into the game files, but on console, tough luck Edit:it's nice to see some actual discussion happening for once. The UA-cam comment section is usually full of unnecessary arguments. Edit again: you can finally buy addons that aren't tied to a world.
it's like if gmod Mods were tied to a Single Map and you could only use it on that Single Map, that what it feels like here, but yeah, on PC atleast you have the "comfort" of extracting it
@@Alanboss777 they should add advancements like java has but maybe optional to keep current achivements. That way addon players can still get something for doing certain things
@@bestGaming132 I want it the other way around, Java should get achievements and the character creator. It's more fun getting actual rewards for your efforts than just advanced checklists on a single world.
Microsoft needs to listen to the Minecraft community. Console players have been begging for RTX and proper shader support, and I think that NEEDS to happen.
They don’t care about console players because our hands are tied. We can’t not give them money if we want to play marketplace content. They’re never going to give us what was promised. All our old stuff from legacy times that is. Like custom superflats. I don’t buy marketplace content but all the naive 8 year olds who see dream plastered all over the store button or whatever do. I wish we would run a boycott on it so Microsoft realise they can’t just neglect console players who literally give them the most money. I’ve always hated Microsoft and I don’t know why Sony gave in to submission with discontinuing legacy. I even remember when bedrock came out on PlayStation for a solid year or more it was almost unplayable, fall damage bugs, game freezes, crashes and the infamous disappearing horses. If legacy was still there getting updates it would’ve been the favoured version by basically everyone. Sony could’ve taken 4J under their wing and kept legacy edition on their platform. If Microsoft decided to pull Minecraft from PlayStation consoles the uproar would’ve been fatal and they would’ve reverted their decision.
Playing Minecraft on my Wii U back in 2014 is something that I will always appreciate. As with the Xbox 360 edition and PS3, these editions are awesome. They did so much right with what they had and feel so smooth when compared to PC, even.
The worst part about the RTX thing is that a couple of months ago they gave Xbox Series players access to it by mistake and instead of letting people play around with it they simply removed without giving any idea of when it would be available again. Oh not even mentioning the fact that Xbox is the only platform that can be banned from playing single player worlds because of the new report system. No other console/platform does this. It seems like Microsoft is for some reason punishing people for choosing their consoles instead of rewarding them
@@trollconfiavel It wasnt for bedrock no matter the platform, realtime raytracing is impossible on old gen consoles, switch, and mobile apart from a single samsung tablet
This is the reason, I bought Legacy on Disk even tho I have bedrock in Game Pass(Not gonna lie, Minecraft is so far the most popular and the worst game in this list lol. So sad, I used to love it back them...)
I went on my 360 and was amazed how much more controller friendly it was after not having played it for 5 years and its just so much better and it also made me realise that the loading screen to open minecraft on the xbox one takes longer than it does to open minecraft and make a brand new world on my phone
This video explains why I don't like playing on console anymore and why I miss the legacy editions so much. On the 360 and the legacy xbox one version, I actually liked playing it over Java when it comes to vanilla. They worked so well and I wish I could see what they could do with them now.
god i miss legacy console edition so much, i have memories from a literal decade ago of me and my sister playing it on our xbox 360 together... im almost 18 now and i already feel old :(
This is when Microsoft needs to bring back 4J studios to handle the console version. They did a phenomenal job with the original (sadly discontinued) console editions. Let 4J handle the console side of bedrock and work out all the bugs and stuff that Mojang refuses to work on in regards to the consoles. I’m sure they can even get next gen upgrades going as Mojang advertised.
I’ve been saying this since they got kicked to the curb. They have so much damn hands on deck willing to put work in but they just don’t use it and it pisses me off the most
I just hate the powerlessness. I tried to do the only thing I could by leaving a feedback post claiming Mojang was ignoring Xbox and it was deleted by them with no explanation. They don’t care about console! And why should they when people just pack up and leave to the versions that have effective support. That’s exactly what they want! They shouldn’t be able to lie to millions of players and only get away with it because the other tens of millions of players turn a blind eye. This game that’s supposedly for everyone should not be allowed to ignore an entire platform, especially after making so many unfulfilled promises.
Before 1.19, my iPhone 11’s recommended render distance was 16 chunks. In post, they halved it to 8 chunks. Sure the update’s cool, but it really brought the hardware standard up.
Why did they change it? I get that world gen was altered in 1.18, but what could've possibly changed in 1.19 that'd require more horsepower outta your machine?
The thing that really upsets me about servers is that you CAN add other servers to your list, but ONLY if you play on PC or mobile. Any console is stuck with the 5 "fEaTuReD" servers. Unless you use one of those weird work arounds like the MC Server Connector app or that weird thing where you change the console's DNS settings. Things like this only show that Microsoft wants more money.
Seeing that old tutorial world brings me memories. Over the summer of 2013, I got a copy of the game for X360 (it was on a disc.) and I really liked playing it a lot. Even if I'd be behind on updates due to my X360 not having wireless Wi-Fi, so when I did want to update it I'd have to plug it directly into the router. Come 2020, when I got into playing Bedrock (Switch version), to put things simply, the game felt... soulless. The stuff that made the older version on X360 so special seemed to be gone. Do I still play the game sometimes? Yes. But it just isn't how it used to be. I was able to adjust the controls to better match the X360 controls, but still.
This entire video is basically just saying "make bedrock more like legacy edition" or "bring back legacy edition" and I am 100% agreeing with those statements
As someone who grew up playing on Ps3, then Ps4, it really hurt when they killed off 4J’s fantastic port for the unoptimised garbage that is bedrock on console :/
The thing about playing on consoles vs PC to me is the lag. Nothing like tunneling through the nether, freeze frame due to lag and wind up swimming in lava going through your totems. On my PC absolutely great frames and lag free on both bedrock and Java. I do like to still play with my controller though. Old habits are hard to break...
I feel this way about Bedrock in general. And keep in mind I am a Bedrock player. Microsoft/Mojang like to treat Bedrock like the "premiere" version in their marketing. But the actual game doesn't represent that at all. Updates on Bedrock continually ship with BASIC FEATURES not working properly. It honestly baffles me sometimes.
Bedrock supposedly being the "main" version of MC but still getting treated so poorly is disgusting. Meanwhile Java despite not being marketed as the best version of Minecraft, is still the version that Mojang seems to focus more. bruh...
@@kapa_nitori java has the indie roots of the game, and probably quite a lot of the well known and caring devs are on the java team, and java has more sway over the community than bedrock and can demand things which i assume is one of the reasons why when they tried adding the report system for java and then the java community riots, they delayed it.
@@kapa_nitori Mojang focuses on Java more because it's what they focus on. Java would've ceased to exist long ago if it weren't for the Mojang staff continually reassuring everyone that Java would continue alongside Bedrock. "Mojang" is no longer an independent company, and at this point primarily refers to the Java development team. Bedrock is Microsoft's creation and their pride and joy, yet they seem to have neither pride nor joy.
The fact you can’t choose to use features outside of vanilla without the market place is so maddening to me. In order to do so you HAVE to have a PC or buy the game on your phone. Not to mention you have to pay for realms to keep anything that has mods or “behavior packs” that you didn’t pay for. In order to use community made packs like John Smith Legacy (a pack kept up by a massive community effort) or Foxynotail items (like one player sleep) you have to spend 7.99 and a fee of 7.99 a month to keep it on any console. They physically make you pay for a thing that costs 10$ or a fee of 7.99 a month for quote on quote UNLIMITED ACESSS. Unlike Java bedrock has so many capability problems that were formed because it was made poorly, the code could handle many things (we now have consoles as powerful as a standard PC with the PS5 and series X) however they put themselves in a box that limits the making of the game and puts the consumer into a hole of buying things or repaying a fee. You might say that’s the same thing with Java, but Java has zero limitations and you have a CHOICE to pay the servers for things rather than NEEDING to pay the company (that you’ve most likely spent 100+ paying already for the game, mashups and PVP/ MINI-GAMES themed maps to just not be able to use some in bedrock) themselves. This is why I have a burning hatred for bedrock right now, it’s entirely unfair and not friendly towards us at all. They have no right to focus on a new update when we have glaring issues that need to be addressed first. Not to mention the parities would’ve been here way sooner if we stuck to legacy due to it being written like Java- this is just so mind bending and it’s even worse that PS4 users didn’t get bedrock til 2019, 2 years after better together. It’s just so frustrating and I’ve had enough of Mojang’s excuses. It’s not the devs but Mojang as a whole that has a obvious issue of time management and priorities and it’s disgusting to think about. With that being said, I will still be playing every once in a while. It’s hard not to when it’s one of the games you have a deep knowledge about and so many creative opportunities. I just wish it was better and I’m glad more people have been coming to this conclusion over the past months.
Tbf an alternative to that is hosting a local/Xbox live world in some other device. Still not ideal since you'd need to pay for Xbox Live + having another device with Minecraft on it, but it allows you to play community generated content without the need to pay for realms
Here are two things I want to correct: 1- You can join other custom servers by changing the DNS server of the console 2- you can add custom skins as a form of packs on Xbox as they support 3rd party apps including file manager
It's not a limitation of the console, but of the developers. I'm so glad they got quick resume completely working on the SX. They do need to add in RTX to XS
I seriously HATE how bedrock feels on xbox. The controls are wrong by default, the game feels so slow to play and it just does not capture the nice charm 4J's version had.
I really miss the tutorial worlds. I know the game is so well known now, and it's pretty easy to learn how to play, but it would have been nice to see some worlds for the other updates. I hope that some day, they release the files for all the tutorial worlds so people can play them again.
U can do this but it is ps I have the old edition and new but if u got the tutorial world explored the whole thing then go to the new version u can transfer old worlds to new edition
Yeah, or make a new one for recent updates. Would love to see how they would make the tutorial area for 1.18 and 1.19 features, as well as all the other updates since tutorial worlds were removed
This helps me understand why I hate playing on my Switch. I grew up playing games on PC so I thought I just couldn't get the controls down because I always played with a keyboard and mouse. I just started playing exclusively on my laptop when they gave everyone who had one version the other version, I also started playing Java more then my switch once I got it just because it seemed to work better and that was at less then 30 fps all the time too.
No that's switch Port is nasty I was playing it on my Xbox went to my cousin's house and played it on her switch and couldn't even last 5 seconds I felt like my eyes were going to bleed and roll out of my head
You can really tell people at Mojang don’t play Bedrock on console, or haven’t played it longer than 10 minutes to see all the various problems with it. When you think about it Bedrock is a mobile game ported to PC and Console. As for the servers thing if you change your DNS settings on console you can join any bedrock server, it’s pretty cool. “Xbox render distance can ONLY be 28 chunks” Java players just happy if they can have 18
Another thing that I wish we had back from legacy along with faster creative flying, making minecarts go their old speed again, minecarts used to go so fast just on their own but now they're significantly slower haha
Minecraft bedrock optimization needs to be focused on more in general, its in a fairly poor state right now. The fact the best way to play Minecraft is arguably on mobile currently shows this.
You are not being wrong, its just the thing that you can't really enjoy Bedrock/Pocket starting in 1.18 or 1.19 unlike Java. In mobile i only play with add-ons and in PC only to Cubecraft and/or The Hive. Rigjt now Java is the superior version for Survival (and it is best with any *free* mod that supports dynamic lights, OptiFine for example) and i don't think that's gonna chage anytime soon :(
Yeah, I clipped through my ceiling during one play session. It was replicatable too, all I had to do was jump into the ceiling. The thought of randomly falling through your world is scary.
Minecraft on One S always seems to be low in frame rate. I get about 26fps, not 30, so each second I get a sort of rubber banding effect when flying in creative. That. Is. Abysmal.
the console edition of Minecraft that was developed by 4j was the game that i started playing on back in 2013, i love that version so much, i wish it could've been carried on separately
I literally bought the series X for minecraft ray tracing when they released all the videos displaying their “soon to be released for series X” trailers that showed off the ability of RTX that was built into the series X console. Not going to lie, been pretty pissed seeing the recent news they shared about Ray-Tracing :// I love minecraft, but mojang did the community dirty by advertising something that they’re not even open to releasing in the first few YEARS of the series X being out… like come on, there’s been games that started development, made series X optimizations, and have been released within the time i’ve waited on this update…
I did the same thing with the Xbox one x super duper graphics pack. They made us wait 2 years before saying that it wasn't going to happen. And then a couple weeks later they announced ray tracing on the new Xbox series X. That's when I figured that their scam artists and it's never going to happen. It was just a sales pitch.
@@justincary4803 Dang man, I totally forgot about that. That’s also why I upgraded from the 360, for better minecraft and GTA. And you’re completely right- hopefully they’ll do right by the community and fulfill their promises with all the outpour about their false advertising
I miss Legacy edition because of the mini-games and it feels more fun to play then bedrock on console. I do like the bedrock edition on the phone and PC but for the console it doesn't look that good compared to the legacy edition.
7:00 They also prevent you from even doing it if you are even able to, like changing the xbox file explorer and taking down 3rd party apps that let you download custom packs, like MC-Addons manager
@@rubylikessonic2 They provide deep enough access to mod MC, and sharing the files can be done wirelessly. I personally use Durango FTP and haven't had any issues, but all of them are pretty much the same.
I also hate that I have to play on the current update. I think this is a rare opinion but I don't honestly care for the caves and cliffs update. I used to be able to find a spot of land within a few seconds up to a couple minutes and know where I was going to start building my village. Now, it's mountains everywhere and a lot of deep abysses that I keep falling to my death in. Not a fan. However, it looks amazing, I feel like I've lost all motivation to build literally anything now because I don't feel like spending hours flattening out land. I don't like building on mountains or slopes or anything, I find it easier to find flat land and build on that. It's just a lot easier for me to visualize how I want something done somewhat. But obviously that's just me. Minecraft just doesn't hit like it used to. I used to spend hours on the game, now I just hop on their and see if anything new is added, load up a new world, hope to find inspiration for a build, get overwhelmed of all the things I don't wanna see on my game and I leave the game and play something different. I dunno, I sort of thought the 1.17 update was good, them 1.18 came and it ruined my saved game I had spent about 6 months on and I think that's what did it for me, Once I lost all my progress on my world, I have not wanted to restart because getting started for me is always the hardest part of a world to me. Once I get started, things go a little smoother for me, Now, that I lost hours of progress, I just don't want to restart. I want my old world to work properly again.
Thank you for bringing light to the issues with bedrock on consoles. People think bedrock is bad enough, but a lot of them never even considered console could be worse.
Thank you for talking about this. I really miss Legacy Console Edition and that's still my main version of the game despite having access to a pretty strong pc that can run Java just fine. Legacy Console felt so good and special and its sad that bedrock in console just isn't good and is almost unplayable
don’t forget that all of the ui features were tailor made for the specific consoles! and the music actually played regularly and not every 30ish minutes
Lesson learned today: how to pause Bedrock Edition on PC. I thought that since the pause menu doesn't pause the game (let that sink in), there was no way of doing it. ✨The more you know✨
I recently tried to play 1.19 on my gaming laptop and it was using over 80% of my CPU to run it. Totally insane, especially when I tried to play bedrock and my laptop was running at 10 to 14% CPU usage. Granted my laptop is 2 yrs old but still for there to be that big of a difference between the two. I can see why a lot of PC are having difficulty with 1.19
I'm prolly the odd one out, but I'd say 2 years for a laptop is nothing. It couldn't have possibly aged that bad. From what I see other people saying I can assume the game is terribly optimized.
the game is just terribly optimized. I feel like with every new update, the game takes more to run. I usually don't use mods or add-ons, but i had to download things like sodium/lithium just so my game could run at 60 fps
I paid $500 for a Series X, and much of that decision was driven by a promised, better Minecraft experience. But it’s more broken on Series X (and maybe PS5 as well?) than it was on its predecessor. The fact that I can’t do anything about that is infuriating, and the fact that Mojang has given no word on when changes will be made is even more infuriating. Console has been left totally in the dark. The only way anything will ever change is if people on the other platforms starts speaking out for the 5% of players who are on console.
I have a buddy who actually figured out how to import MCPEDL add-ons, texture packs, and what-not on an Xbox One using some weird file manager from the MS store alongside Edge and it actually worked. The fact that you can literally do that and the game supports it like any other platform yet it appears you have to buy mine coins to get anything special is absurd.
Kinda sad 4J stopped making console edition, the had so much going for them going into 2017 like mini games until Microsoft shut them down, I remember the leaks of Skywars or Build battle mini games.
@@animationcity8178 Yea Ik it’s painful to think that we have bedrock now instead of console especially more mini games, I still play console though, it’s way more enjoyable.
@@adrianbruno3846 it really is even though it’s 8 major versions behind on Xbox one. I play it to this day even though I had bedrock edition since it came out in 2017. It’s genuinely saddening to see it in complete limbo and it’s just dead air across the whole game. Not that bedrock is better but I don’t know how online is still working, there’s nobody ever online but me. You can tell 4J cared for the community unlike those other $cumbag$. It is full of potential that was promptly killed off. If only bedrock stayed on mobile and legacy console was still mainstream. Wasted potential that wouldn’t have been wasted if it weren’t for Micro$oft.
To me one of the worst things about the market place is not being able to use ANY of your TEXTURE PACKS, WORLDS, SKINS and COSMETICS if you're offline. On Legacy Console Edition once I bought a skin pack or a texture pack I could use them whenever I wanted. Wherever I wanted. Didn't need to be connected to wifi. But on Bedrock I literally can't. We leave on vacation to somewhere where we don't internet at home so basically I can't use any of my texture packs, skin packs or worlds or cosmetics that I've bought. This is not Ok
This is why I play console using a keyboard. I also don’t play on servers anymore but I remember you used to be able to add any server back around 2016-2019. I played on some faction servers when the feature was first added.
I recently switched over from console to PC to play MC and the overall, general experience is so much better. My only issue is transferring my saved worlds from console to PC. Once I can do that I’ll probably never play MC on console again unless it’s to play the legacy edition. I agree with all of your points in this video. 🎯💯👏👏👏
yeah i miss the legacy console editions, i have the xbox one and wii U console editions and i like those way more than bedrock on the console. when i got a pc tho i just generally switched to java cause i think if ur on pc java just makes more sense as it seems more designed for pc
@@accuratemrstuff3842 I miss the legacy edition too at times but overall I’m comparatively content with the modern versions of the game by comparison. I only play the legacy edition for the occasional nostalgia trip. I’ve recently began playing the Java edition again for the first time in years but I’m playing v1.16.5 because it won’t work on any version past that even though my PC more than meets the requirements. I contacted Mojang about it months back and was basically told I was SOL and they closed my support ticket promptly after that. I’m still a little upset by the way they handled it and blew me off.
@@jayson3900 oh that's strange i think my friend had a similar issue a while back that he eventually fixed (idk how) but he was stuck on playing super old versions like 1.2 or something and any newer version wouldn't launch
I am personally fine with the Bedrock version on Xbox it's just need a more features from the older version and new features in general like: -The mini games -Customizable Flatworlds -Option for Amplified worlds -Easier options to downloads mods -Custom Skins -A few performance improvements like more render distance, more fps The modding part annoyes me the most because why did they make it so hard/almost impossible to add mods
I miss 360 edition 😪 my childhood was always Minecraft with the very, and oddly comforting graphic. Compared to bedrock's graphic, it doesn't give me a headach every 2 minutes
I recently got back into my long term survival world, and the flat world challenge. The Xbox Series X works well, but it could be so much better, it often drops fps or just lags out in general. The game is fun, and it’s definitely playable. My biggest problem is mob despawning, wether it’s witches on the flat world or villagers on my long term, too often i find that my cherished mobs are gone without a trace. I understand the basics of why it works differently from java, I do, but there has to be a better way for it to calculate wether a mob does or does not exist. Furthermore, as of 1.19, mobs often appear to teleport from place to place. On multiple occasions I have seen passive and hostile mobs almost rubber band across the map, my best guess is that the game is doing it so that I doesn’t have to despawn and respawn a mob, but it’s annoying, it looks really buggy, and quite frankly I see no reason why a $500 console can’t properly render some zombies and sheep. On the other hand, I love your videos, Toycat, please keep uploading, your videos provide me such excellent entertainment! Toycat is yes
I feel like this video is a good example of the poor support bedrock gets in general, for the version that is more easily accessible compared to Java the support for it is very poor
Tomcat, for your laptop make sure that Minecraft is actually running on your dedicated graphics card instead of the integrated Intel one. To do this (if I remember off the top of my head), right click the desktop, click display settings, scroll down to the bottom, click graphics settings, add an app, choose Minecraft, then click options on Minecraft (in that menu), now choose high performance GPU. Hopefully that should solve the issue. :) Also, yes that PC you showed at the start of the video, yes I am jealous of that Pentium III beast!! Haha
@@AyaanThe0ne haha, my stupid autocorrect did that twice, I wrote toycat and it autocorrected to Tomcat and then I erased it and put toycat and it stayed so it must of autocorrected again just before I posted it... :)
What I do is since I have an old disc version of Minecraft I delete the game, turn my WiFi off, put the disc in and let it auto install. That makes it install to the version that existed when you bought the game, so I can play on the OG tutorial map and without the new textures, blocks, features, bugs etc.
I love how fortnite, a game that seems more demanding for your console runs way better than a game where you just place block, explore and mine. Not to mention the fact fortnite has cross play on all platforms and the friend system on their is way more friendly. I don’t know why Microsoft can’t make their own game actually feel good on their own console like it frustrates me that I can’t even go to the nether without the game stuttering every other second AFTER I turn my graphics all the way down
Ngl, ironically enough Fortnite is doing everything better than Minecraft currently which is funny after all the "Minecraft good Fortnite bad" kids from years ago Examples of course being the feature delays that just made each update as of recent suck, and apparently I just heard about some really annoying chat enforcement (I have not played Minecraft at all since they began doing the feature delays, and I don't plan on playing it again so I don't keep up with everything that happens) But then Fortnite is out here making banger updates all the time, ngl
Can we talk about how useless these new blocks are in the new update? Sure the mud block looks nice, but I have such an abundance of mangrove roots and have not a clue what to do with them. Same could be said of it's single and useless crafting recipe the muddy mangrove root block. I wish these new blocks could have some sort of use beyond its natural generation.
i don't know if you decided where to go on your road trip, but if you went to Montana then definitely take a pitstop by Butte! i grew up there and i can tell you it has some really cool tourist and history locations of the mining town and some amazing food! Pork Chop Johns had some of the best Pork chop sandwiches ive ever had and Sparkys Garage 2 has some of the best Fries ever! they even have an old fashioned Truck that the bed is redesigned as a table for guests! its overall really cool small town!
Fun fact: when you port a game to pc from mobile phones from 2012 and then port it to the newest consoles without any platform special adjustments it is going to be bad and buggy. Congratulations, now you know something that a studio worth millions of dollars doesn't know. Also the servers are not bad, at least 3 of them, and it is really good than like some servers on java, you cannot get scammed, because all purchases are done with minecoins and they are controlled by Microsoft.
Before watching the video, I assume from the title and thumbnail that you stopped playing minecraft Xbox edition because the minecoins turned you into a goose.
god just had a mini heart attack, your hit the like swoosh sound sounded like someone was trying to break into my room I couldnt figure out what the hell was going on
If you think it's bad on the Xbox One, try playing it on switch. I have a multiplayer world with my younger brothers on switch and whenever we're all on there the frame rate is like 10 fps. it's horrible. A lot of the time I play on the PS5 and that is really nice and smooth by comparison
My series x was an intense jump up from my one s. One S had 14 chunks render distance, and took about 5 minutes to load the menu screen. Series x has 28 chunks and less than 30 seconds to load. So much faster and nicer. Definitely have the same frame rate issues in 1.19 though, it physically hurts to watch and it’s been a bit since I’ve played due to that
at least you was better at what system you choose Some people think the Xbox one S all digital edition would save them money I have gotten two Xbox 360 games and yes they both £15 on the store for less than £3.50
The last part of console was ps4 edition. It was a great send off but it wasn’t a good transition. The game on bedrock isn’t optimized on anything besides your phone and that’s a simple and annoying fact about bedrock. RIP 4j, they seem to get thrown to the sidelines for the longest time just to come back for something else… also you can’t even play some packs on bedrock, Halloween 2015 mashup is just an error and you have to rebuy it, that’s absolutely unfair to consumers (console players)
I bought a skin pack for Doctor who that was on the PS4 page for minecraft. Only to find out you can’t play with those packs at all in the game. And you can’t find them on the marketplace. They were on there before ps4 changed to bedrock, but now it’s like avoid.. and I wasted $5
I used to play on Xbox until I was getting prompts for storage being full. However, even after clearing both the in game memory as well as my Xbox it would still pop up. It eventually got to the point where I couldn’t create any worlds at all because my “storage was full”. After contacting both Mojang and Microsoft and even trying a total reset on the Xbox, I was never able to get that issue to go away. So that was my reason for switching to PC..
I seriously don't understand how people have issues typing on controller, I can almost type as fast on controller as on keyboard, it's not that hard or frustrating.
Commenting so more people see this video! All the points made here are solid. I went back to Xbox myself and I was thinking "People have to play like this"? And the fact that theirs no custom servers and they force you on realms is crazy because realms is unreliable! Also, that features they had for years on the console version aren't there now just makes this way worse. Why can't my Series X do what my Xbox 360 do?
I like skyblock and wanted to play it on my Switch on the go, so I got a skyblock map from the marketplace. It had so many problems. I couldn't always play the map I bought, because I kept needing to re log into my Microsoft account almost every other time I launched the game. Not only that, but the map isn't able to be updated anymore (can't reach 1.17 I think). Market place maps from before the world height limit can't be updated. I was excited to play skyblock with moss blocks specifically, but no. I ended up recreating my skyblock map in creative on Java so I could keep play the game properly. I guess I have gone full circle, because I used to play Java Edition but switched to Bedrock Edition on the Switch to play on the go, but now I play Java on the Steam Deck.
I am going to be honest, the last version of Minecraft I truly played was the Xbox One edition, the 4J one. With all the controversial takes from Mojang-Microsoft lately, along with how sad the Bedrock Edition is on Series X (one of the reasons I loved getting Series X was looking forward to an eventual raytracing update). It’s making me realize just how much better older versions of the game are compared to the Microsoft-ized versions. Sure on the Xbox One edition there are none of the new features, no infinite worlds, but eh. It doesn’t matter much to me if I am in the mood to play the game. I truly thought Minecraft was going to be one of those games I held onto for the longest time, but Microsoft is losing me here. I unsubbed from my realms and so on, and just haven’t been playing their Microsoft-ized version of the game anymore.
Fun Fact: Microsoft normally allows the companies they buy out to have alot of freedom in what they do So the likely story is that Mojang just doesn't care about you the way alot of people seemed to think they did Probably a mix of different people working there and they have confidence they can probably do anything and still succeed because of the name they've built for themselves Like Pokemon for example, where they crank of crappy games but don't care because they know the stupid fans will eat it up
Minecraft/Mojang/Microsoft needs to have Minecraft the same on every device and only have one version of minecraft costing 30$ and not having different pros and cons for every device also add a way to make things free on the market place and allow more people to add things to the market place some mods can improve minecraft but not for every device and have a version of minecraft called minecraft beta for free for every device if you own minecraft it's simple minecraft can do it but won't. No hate to anyone we love minecraft and hope your all doing well. Btw amazing video keep up the great work Ibxtoycat goodbye!
That won't work purely because Java is... Java. Xbox doesn't run on Java, mobiles don't, etc. Java will always be superior purely because it's the most unrestricted.
Fun fact, awhile ago Xbox series X had a glitch on Minecraft where you couldn’t load worlds. Took them a fat minute to fix that. It took at least 1-2 months
In my opinion I do agree how Xbox Minecraft used to be really unique and fun with custom made mini games with awesome lobbies but now is just servers and not many fun things. Last year I actually bought a disc of classic Xbox one edition Minecraft just to feel like I'm playing Minecraft again
Same reason I don’t play a lot of games on Xbox anymore. I still haven’t been able to get my hands on a reasonably priced Series X and decided to put the money I had saved for the SX into a Nvidia RTX, best decision I have ever made in regards to tech, the rendering distance is light years away from what I had on my One X.
As a ps5 player, it grinding my gears That rdr2 has rtx on ps4 and Xbox. but minecraft has apparently thought that the console has the same power as 1970 computer.
In some of your very early xbox let's play you said that consoles would be the future, so have the tables changed. Microsoft likely will not focus too much on consoles unless it was more profitable, same reason they won't be making bedrock on linux as you can't force linux users to have windows store to play it
Traditionally games were made for consoles. Minecraft is really among the few games made specifically for PC. Then when they copied the coding from java into c++ the baseline was really the same. It was modified to work with iPhone and Xbox but it wasn’t made for them really.
To this day, console if my favorite version in my opinion. And if console was never discontinued, 1.18 would have most likely brought infinite worlds to them.
I haven't played MC in xbox for years cuz I also pretty much hate that BE on xbox. I really loved the original Xbox One Edition but unfortunately it hasn't been updated for decades but I still have it.
Thats good, because it seems to be in 1.12.2 aka the best minecraft version because it’s before all the laggy stuff gets added Plus it has better tutoriels than bedrock, in which was just a guide screaming “read it yourself”
It’s crazy that playing a game on a machine created solely for games is worse than a machine created for tons of reasons
And it’s not even the machine that is made solely for game’s fault.
This is hilarious🤣
There is the classic coders problem though. Console programs lust after the shear power of a PC. Mean while PC programers dream of only having to support One hardware configuration.
Eh, the Xbox has kind of always been like a PC though. It’s the DirectX box - the Xbox.
It's not all that crazy because said machine solely created for games is unfortunately also a closed system and everything you are allowed to do with it, they have to specifically allow you first. So they lag behind in features and graphics basically always.
We do have PCs that were solely created for gaming, which would be most gaming laptops, or PC handhelds like the Steam Deck. Just because a machine can be used for more things doesn't mean it can't also be the best at one thing another machine was exclusively made for
One of the worst things about the marketplace is the fact that, if you buy an addon, you don't actually get the addon. You get a world that has the addon, and that world is the only world that the addon is usable on. On pc (and maybe mobile, idk), you can extract the addon from the world by going into the game files, but on console, tough luck
Edit:it's nice to see some actual discussion happening for once. The UA-cam comment section is usually full of unnecessary arguments.
Edit again: you can finally buy addons that aren't tied to a world.
You can even put it on your own worlds but remember if you want achievements them don't put it on the world that you want to have achievements on
it's like if gmod Mods were tied to a Single Map and you could only use it on that Single Map, that what it feels like here, but yeah, on PC atleast you have the "comfort" of extracting it
@@Alanboss777 they should add advancements like java has but maybe optional to keep current achivements. That way addon players can still get something for doing certain things
@@bestGaming132 I want it the other way around, Java should get achievements and the character creator. It's more fun getting actual rewards for your efforts than just advanced checklists on a single world.
Base Xbox one has 12 chunk render distance
Microsoft needs to listen to the Minecraft community. Console players have been begging for RTX and proper shader support, and I think that NEEDS to happen.
They don’t care about console players because our hands are tied. We can’t not give them money if we want to play marketplace content.
They’re never going to give us what was promised. All our old stuff from legacy times that is. Like custom superflats.
I don’t buy marketplace content but all the naive 8 year olds who see dream plastered all over the store button or whatever do.
I wish we would run a boycott on it so Microsoft realise they can’t just neglect console players who literally give them the most money.
I’ve always hated Microsoft and I don’t know why Sony gave in to submission with discontinuing legacy. I even remember when bedrock came out on PlayStation for a solid year or more it was almost unplayable, fall damage bugs, game freezes, crashes and the infamous disappearing horses. If legacy was still there getting updates it would’ve been the favoured version by basically everyone.
Sony could’ve taken 4J under their wing and kept legacy edition on their platform. If Microsoft decided to pull Minecraft from PlayStation consoles the uproar would’ve been fatal and they would’ve reverted their decision.
@@wokevirushandsanitzer5300 rip Minecraft minigames
It's RT/Raytracing, not Nvidia's marketing name RTX.
@@wokevirushandsanitzer5300 Why do you hate Microsoft?
@@wokevirushandsanitzer5300dont be too sure they wont. microsoft is going to start pulling games from playstation like call of duty.
Playing Minecraft on my Wii U back in 2014 is something that I will always appreciate. As with the Xbox 360 edition and PS3, these editions are awesome. They did so much right with what they had and feel so smooth when compared to PC, even.
Yeah bro i used to plau on the wii u too it was great one of the best games i had on it
Wii u Minecraft was something that'll stay with me for a long time
@@dougalbadger4918same
Wii U Edition didn’t release until December 2015.
@@ThighFishokay? Your point is?
When they showed “ray tracing on Xbox” i knew it was already for marketing purpose and Mojang will alway make for pc only.
Which is sad
super duper graphics pack…💀
Not just pc only, but only a few fuckin graphics cards
Ok
@@toxin5439 Do you understand not all graphics cards can raytrace right?
The worst part about the RTX thing is that a couple of months ago they gave Xbox Series players access to it by mistake and instead of letting people play around with it they simply removed without giving any idea of when it would be available again.
Oh not even mentioning the fact that Xbox is the only platform that can be banned from playing single player worlds because of the new report system. No other console/platform does this.
It seems like Microsoft is for some reason punishing people for choosing their consoles instead of rewarding them
switch players can be single player banned too btw
Pretty sure it is for all Bedrock, no matter the platform
@@trollconfiavel It wasnt for bedrock no matter the platform, realtime raytracing is impossible on old gen consoles, switch, and mobile apart from a single samsung tablet
@@Sprite897 talking about the banning
@@Sprite897 lol, obv he's talking abt the bans
I am kinda mad that i cant downgrade my game in order to play on older versions.I payed for the full game lol
This is the reason, I bought Legacy on Disk even tho I have bedrock in Game Pass(Not gonna lie, Minecraft is so far the most popular and the worst game in this list lol. So sad, I used to love it back them...)
@@jezSonic i wish i could di the same thing but sadly there is no way for me to a buy a disk(
@@rudolfcoochise5829 Do You mean You can't find it, or Your console doesn't have disk reader?
Only 360 could sadly
I would've loved to play the older version on xbox one
I went on my 360 and was amazed how much more controller friendly it was after not having played it for 5 years and its just so much better and it also made me realise that the loading screen to open minecraft on the xbox one takes longer than it does to open minecraft and make a brand new world on my phone
This video explains why I don't like playing on console anymore and why I miss the legacy editions so much. On the 360 and the legacy xbox one version, I actually liked playing it over Java when it comes to vanilla. They worked so well and I wish I could see what they could do with them now.
I just play on 1.6.4 servers to relive the glory days of console on my laptop
god i miss legacy console edition so much, i have memories from a literal decade ago of me and my sister playing it on our xbox 360 together... im almost 18 now and i already feel old :(
And this is why I didn’t get the new Minecraft but I stuck with rhe old one.
I miss playing flat world survival worlds where the layers were customized
Now if you want to do it the marketplace is your closest version
The menus are too janky and clunky for me. The old UI was soooo much better
This is when Microsoft needs to bring back 4J studios to handle the console version. They did a phenomenal job with the original (sadly discontinued) console editions. Let 4J handle the console side of bedrock and work out all the bugs and stuff that Mojang refuses to work on in regards to the consoles. I’m sure they can even get next gen upgrades going as Mojang advertised.
Exactly!
I’ve been saying this since they got kicked to the curb. They have so much damn hands on deck willing to put work in but they just don’t use it and it pisses me off the most
the built in mini games were amazing as well!
There shouldn’t even be two diff versions of Minecraft, I just want One ultimate Minecraft version fir all devices with cross play
@@emma6648 That talk is what's going to let Microsoft axe Java any day now
I just hate the powerlessness. I tried to do the only thing I could by leaving a feedback post claiming Mojang was ignoring Xbox and it was deleted by them with no explanation. They don’t care about console! And why should they when people just pack up and leave to the versions that have effective support. That’s exactly what they want! They shouldn’t be able to lie to millions of players and only get away with it because the other tens of millions of players turn a blind eye. This game that’s supposedly for everyone should not be allowed to ignore an entire platform, especially after making so many unfulfilled promises.
Before 1.19, my iPhone 11’s recommended render distance was 16 chunks. In post, they halved it to 8 chunks. Sure the update’s cool, but it really brought the hardware standard up.
Why did they change it? I get that world gen was altered in 1.18, but what could've possibly changed in 1.19 that'd require more horsepower outta your machine?
@@fenn_fren lazy coding...
@@fenn_fren nothing, they just only changed perfomance suggestions one version later
The thing that really upsets me about servers is that you CAN add other servers to your list, but ONLY if you play on PC or mobile. Any console is stuck with the 5 "fEaTuReD" servers. Unless you use one of those weird work arounds like the MC Server Connector app or that weird thing where you change the console's DNS settings. Things like this only show that Microsoft wants more money.
What did you think they wanted, lol
7 actually, but 2 are p2w servers
The DNS settings work great for me I have been doing it for years and it’s been amazing
Why do you think Microsoft bought Minecraft
gotta get those 2.5 billion back. but this is jusf disgusting.
Just remember: It's not the console's fault, it's the devs.
Yes.
Yeah but it makes no difference
It’s not the devs it’s the people in charge
@@billywhizz09 I'm sorry but how the hell does the top selling game in the world have over 3000 bugs and issues?
@@Pinkmusak because the people in charge are getting the devs to work on new features instead of fixing bugs and optimising the game
Seeing that old tutorial world brings me memories. Over the summer of 2013, I got a copy of the game for X360 (it was on a disc.) and I really liked playing it a lot. Even if I'd be behind on updates due to my X360 not having wireless Wi-Fi, so when I did want to update it I'd have to plug it directly into the router.
Come 2020, when I got into playing Bedrock (Switch version), to put things simply, the game felt... soulless. The stuff that made the older version on X360 so special seemed to be gone. Do I still play the game sometimes? Yes. But it just isn't how it used to be. I was able to adjust the controls to better match the X360 controls, but still.
Do you still play Xbox 360 multiplayer I still got so many people playing
Minecraft Legacy> Minecraft Bedrock
Good boy
Any version>bedrock,its lit the worst version
This entire video is basically just saying "make bedrock more like legacy edition" or "bring back legacy edition" and I am 100% agreeing with those statements
I still have legacy edition on my switch, and I still play it
@@NekoAerospaceSFS lucky! I have it on Xbox one and 360, and used to on PS4 but now it is bedrock and I can’t get it back :(
@@NekoAerospaceSFS I have at on my xbox 360
@@ItzBoowie Bro you can launch legacy via bedrock main menu!
@@stiffybeanie4148 where
As someone who grew up playing on Ps3, then Ps4, it really hurt when they killed off 4J’s fantastic port for the unoptimised garbage that is bedrock on console :/
I miss it too, man. But Microshit obviously won't return. Can't believe it has been five years.
Yes, being limited to breeding 4 cows was great.
Edit: It was fun playing with my bro though!
The biggest crime was removing coordinates from locator maps when they switched
I miss being able to make any redstone and flying machines and I'm still trying to figure out what they can't have the same redstone system as java
Nice to see someone who shares the same thought process and grew up on the same consoles. The console edition really was a wonderful special thing.
It’s sad that Minecraft runs better on my almost 3 year old iPhone XR than Microsoft’s top of the line game console…
The thing about playing on consoles vs PC to me is the lag. Nothing like tunneling through the nether, freeze frame due to lag and wind up swimming in lava going through your totems. On my PC absolutely great frames and lag free on both bedrock and Java. I do like to still play with my controller though. Old habits are hard to break...
There are controller mods for Java
I feel this way about Bedrock in general. And keep in mind I am a Bedrock player. Microsoft/Mojang like to treat Bedrock like the "premiere" version in their marketing. But the actual game doesn't represent that at all. Updates on Bedrock continually ship with BASIC FEATURES not working properly. It honestly baffles me sometimes.
Bedrock supposedly being the "main" version of MC but still getting treated so poorly is disgusting.
Meanwhile Java despite not being marketed as the best version of Minecraft, is still the version that Mojang seems to focus more. bruh...
@@kapa_nitori java has the indie roots of the game, and probably quite a lot of the well known and caring devs are on the java team, and java has more sway over the community than bedrock and can demand things which i assume is one of the reasons why when they tried adding the report system for java and then the java community riots, they delayed it.
@@kapa_nitori Mojang focuses on Java more because it's what they focus on. Java would've ceased to exist long ago if it weren't for the Mojang staff continually reassuring everyone that Java would continue alongside Bedrock. "Mojang" is no longer an independent company, and at this point primarily refers to the Java development team. Bedrock is Microsoft's creation and their pride and joy, yet they seem to have neither pride nor joy.
@@iClone101 I don't mind that Java exists. It's just baffling to me that they won't put the resources in to make Bedrock actually polished.
and im missed MCPE days
where the updates was worth wait and follow
nowdays bedrock = Botched Java with many bugs and weird Glitch
The fact you can’t choose to use features outside of vanilla without the market place is so maddening to me. In order to do so you HAVE to have a PC or buy the game on your phone. Not to mention you have to pay for realms to keep anything that has mods or “behavior packs” that you didn’t pay for. In order to use community made packs like John Smith Legacy (a pack kept up by a massive community effort) or Foxynotail items (like one player sleep) you have to spend 7.99 and a fee of 7.99 a month to keep it on any console. They physically make you pay for a thing that costs 10$ or a fee of 7.99 a month for quote on quote UNLIMITED ACESSS.
Unlike Java bedrock has so many capability problems that were formed because it was made poorly, the code could handle many things (we now have consoles as powerful as a standard PC with the PS5 and series X) however they put themselves in a box that limits the making of the game and puts the consumer into a hole of buying things or repaying a fee. You might say that’s the same thing with Java, but Java has zero limitations and you have a CHOICE to pay the servers for things rather than NEEDING to pay the company (that you’ve most likely spent 100+ paying already for the game, mashups and PVP/ MINI-GAMES themed maps to just not be able to use some in bedrock) themselves.
This is why I have a burning hatred for bedrock right now, it’s entirely unfair and not friendly towards us at all. They have no right to focus on a new update when we have glaring issues that need to be addressed first. Not to mention the parities would’ve been here way sooner if we stuck to legacy due to it being written like Java- this is just so mind bending and it’s even worse that PS4 users didn’t get bedrock til 2019, 2 years after better together. It’s just so frustrating and I’ve had enough of Mojang’s excuses. It’s not the devs but Mojang as a whole that has a obvious issue of time management and priorities and it’s disgusting to think about.
With that being said, I will still be playing every once in a while. It’s hard not to when it’s one of the games you have a deep knowledge about and so many creative opportunities. I just wish it was better and I’m glad more people have been coming to this conclusion over the past months.
You can lower the fee by purchasing the 2 player realm.
Tbf an alternative to that is hosting a local/Xbox live world in some other device.
Still not ideal since you'd need to pay for Xbox Live + having another device with Minecraft on it, but it allows you to play community generated content without the need to pay for realms
Finally, a logical, critical comment!
yes
@@Codefan321 Lol I know right? It’s astonishing.
Here are two things I want to correct:
1- You can join other custom servers by changing the DNS server of the console
2- you can add custom skins as a form of packs on Xbox as they support 3rd party apps including file manager
It's not a limitation of the console, but of the developers. I'm so glad they got quick resume completely working on the SX. They do need to add in RTX to XS
I seriously HATE how bedrock feels on xbox. The controls are wrong by default, the game feels so slow to play and it just does not capture the nice charm 4J's version had.
This exactly is why I stopped playing Minecraft on my Xbox.
@Jason Torkelson I remember the first beta for the bedrock edition on Xbox, it nearly forced me to reset my Xbox multiple times.
In my opinion xbox is pretty good. I don’t crash or lag often and i can run at 60+ fps without problem
It’s so weird because on the other console versions the legacy controls are used
4js version was so smooth and optimised. Which made console feel great
I really miss the tutorial worlds. I know the game is so well known now, and it's pretty easy to learn how to play, but it would have been nice to see some worlds for the other updates. I hope that some day, they release the files for all the tutorial worlds so people can play them again.
Yeah, me too.. It would be just awesome to have a gigantic hell palace just to teach you how to play and hunt discs inside..
U can do this but it is ps I have the old edition and new but if u got the tutorial world explored the whole thing then go to the new version u can transfer old worlds to new edition
Yeah, or make a new one for recent updates.
Would love to see how they would make the tutorial area for 1.18 and 1.19 features, as well as all the other updates since tutorial worlds were removed
This helps me understand why I hate playing on my Switch.
I grew up playing games on PC so I thought I just couldn't get the controls down because I always played with a keyboard and mouse. I just started playing exclusively on my laptop when they gave everyone who had one version the other version, I also started playing Java more then my switch once I got it just because it seemed to work better and that was at less then 30 fps all the time too.
No that's switch Port is nasty I was playing it on my Xbox went to my cousin's house and played it on her switch and couldn't even last 5 seconds I felt like my eyes were going to bleed and roll out of my head
I love the original legacy consoles versions from the intuitive crafting menu to the nostalgic lighting
You can really tell people at Mojang don’t play Bedrock on console, or haven’t played it longer than 10 minutes to see all the various problems with it. When you think about it Bedrock is a mobile game ported to PC and Console.
As for the servers thing if you change your DNS settings on console you can join any bedrock server, it’s pretty cool.
“Xbox render distance can ONLY be 28 chunks”
Java players just happy if they can have 18
Java can handle more though, it’s just messing with stuff, Antvenom has shown those capabilities. Also the DNS thing, fr? That’s pretty cool
@@D44RK_Iced_Yogs yeah, I've done it on my switch before so you have confirmation that it would work anywhere XD
@@Grane1234 that’s dope asf, I might try sometime, I didn’t doubt the comment but thanks for confirming!! :D
@@D44RK_Iced_Yogs idk why they haven't really added the external server option to consoles yet. I'm pretty sure its on mobile and I know its on pc
Meanwhile Switch is capped at 12 chunks :|
Another thing that I wish we had back from legacy along with faster creative flying, making minecarts go their old speed again, minecarts used to go so fast just on their own but now they're significantly slower haha
Pov your a canman viewer lol
I’m so glad someone finally said something about this bc I’ve felt this way forever
I personally think that OG Console Minecraft is the best experience, after Java of course
The fact that series x still does not have ray tracing is a crime
Minecraft bedrock optimization needs to be focused on more in general, its in a fairly poor state right now. The fact the best way to play Minecraft is arguably on mobile currently shows this.
You are not being wrong, its just the thing that you can't really enjoy Bedrock/Pocket starting in 1.18 or 1.19 unlike Java. In mobile i only play with add-ons and in PC only to Cubecraft and/or The Hive. Rigjt now Java is the superior version for Survival (and it is best with any *free* mod that supports dynamic lights, OptiFine for example) and i don't think that's gonna chage anytime soon :(
Yeah my old $100 phone Samsung J3 ran Minecraft better than my Xbox One S
Yeah, I clipped through my ceiling during one play session. It was replicatable too, all I had to do was jump into the ceiling. The thought of randomly falling through your world is scary.
Minecraft on One S always seems to be low in frame rate. I get about 26fps, not 30, so each second I get a sort of rubber banding effect when flying in creative.
That. Is. Abysmal.
@@nobbyfirefly57 happened to me before. Lost a full enchanted netherite set
I switched to java recently because my xbox corrupted 2 worlds in the span of less than a year. (One was 3 years old, the other 10 months old)
here one year later to say that running it on a 2013 xbox one is absolute hell, lag whenever you open the inventory
the console edition of Minecraft that was developed by 4j was the game that i started playing on back in 2013, i love that version so much, i wish it could've been carried on separately
I understand why bedrock was made but it’s a shame how it was handled. Mobile first was a mistake. Microsoft should have managed this better
I literally bought the series X for minecraft ray tracing when they released all the videos displaying their “soon to be released for series X” trailers that showed off the ability of RTX that was built into the series X console. Not going to lie, been pretty pissed seeing the recent news they shared about Ray-Tracing ://
I love minecraft, but mojang did the community dirty by advertising something that they’re not even open to releasing in the first few YEARS of the series X being out…
like come on, there’s been games that started development, made series X optimizations, and have been released within the time i’ve waited on this update…
I did the same thing with the Xbox one x super duper graphics pack. They made us wait 2 years before saying that it wasn't going to happen. And then a couple weeks later they announced ray tracing on the new Xbox series X. That's when I figured that their scam artists and it's never going to happen. It was just a sales pitch.
@@justincary4803 Dang man, I totally forgot about that. That’s also why I upgraded from the 360, for better minecraft and GTA. And you’re completely right- hopefully they’ll do right by the community and fulfill their promises with all the outpour about their false advertising
“Hey guys we made render dragon so we can shade every block” yeah right not falling for that one again
Its not mojang its microsoft
@@SidOfThe7Cs at this point everyone literally think that microsoft develops minecraft
I absolutely LOATHE how the stick deadzones are massive and non adjustable
I wish host privileges were still in the game, since it was way easier and faster to teleport and many other commands.
isn't that what the operator role is for
I really miss the legacy console versions because the lighting on them was so much prettier than Java or Bedrock
I miss Legacy edition because of the mini-games and it feels more fun to play then bedrock on console. I do like the bedrock edition on the phone and PC but for the console it doesn't look that good compared to the legacy edition.
The legacy edition pvp was so much better not having players air combo you. Luckily, my old Wii U still has a legacy minecraft version.
7:00 They also prevent you from even doing it if you are even able to, like changing the xbox file explorer and taking down 3rd party apps that let you download custom packs, like MC-Addons manager
I was upset when Microsoft decided to get rid of MCaddons. I have 3 worlds I cant even touch now.
FTP apps have gotten off pretty well in terms of being deleted or not, they're just a bit longer to set up
@@tryinerror1 I heard that a new version will be released soon so hope that helps
@@Chumpal Never heard of those?
@@rubylikessonic2 They provide deep enough access to mod MC, and sharing the files can be done wirelessly. I personally use Durango FTP and haven't had any issues, but all of them are pretty much the same.
can we talk about how in multiplayer split screen the keyboard literally takes up the whole screen and only allows one person at a time.
I also hate that I have to play on the current update. I think this is a rare opinion but I don't honestly care for the caves and cliffs update. I used to be able to find a spot of land within a few seconds up to a couple minutes and know where I was going to start building my village. Now, it's mountains everywhere and a lot of deep abysses that I keep falling to my death in. Not a fan. However, it looks amazing, I feel like I've lost all motivation to build literally anything now because I don't feel like spending hours flattening out land. I don't like building on mountains or slopes or anything, I find it easier to find flat land and build on that. It's just a lot easier for me to visualize how I want something done somewhat. But obviously that's just me. Minecraft just doesn't hit like it used to. I used to spend hours on the game, now I just hop on their and see if anything new is added, load up a new world, hope to find inspiration for a build, get overwhelmed of all the things I don't wanna see on my game and I leave the game and play something different. I dunno, I sort of thought the 1.17 update was good, them 1.18 came and it ruined my saved game I had spent about 6 months on and I think that's what did it for me, Once I lost all my progress on my world, I have not wanted to restart because getting started for me is always the hardest part of a world to me. Once I get started, things go a little smoother for me, Now, that I lost hours of progress, I just don't want to restart. I want my old world to work properly again.
Thank you for bringing light to the issues with bedrock on consoles. People think bedrock is bad enough, but a lot of them never even considered console could be worse.
It's not the console. It's the devs
@@dimensio_italian_magician "Console" in that context refers to the version of the game, not the device itself.
@@iClone101 oh ok
Thank you for talking about this. I really miss Legacy Console Edition and that's still my main version of the game despite having access to a pretty strong pc that can run Java just fine. Legacy Console felt so good and special and its sad that bedrock in console just isn't good and is almost unplayable
same, i still haven't ported my main console world to bedrock
CAT ON VENUS NO WAY
@@waycic WAYCIC!?!?!?!
don’t forget that all of the ui features were tailor made for the specific consoles! and the music actually played regularly and not every 30ish minutes
Unplayable? Little much don’t ya think
Literally "most powerful console ever" render distance is the same
Lesson learned today: how to pause Bedrock Edition on PC. I thought that since the pause menu doesn't pause the game (let that sink in), there was no way of doing it.
✨The more you know✨
great single player feature!
One thing I will never understand is how they replaced the og console versions for a inferior version, I absolutely hate bedrock.
You can still go to old version
@@frozenduck74 they don't update it anymore and you can't buy it so its not the same thing
@@frozenduck74 switch users cannot do that
Cross platform
@@soap4653if they were to update it still who says it wouldn’t be just like bedrock 💀💀💀
I recently tried to play 1.19 on my gaming laptop and it was using over 80% of my CPU to run it. Totally insane, especially when I tried to play bedrock and my laptop was running at 10 to 14% CPU usage. Granted my laptop is 2 yrs old but still for there to be that big of a difference between the two. I can see why a lot of PC are having difficulty with 1.19
I'm prolly the odd one out, but I'd say 2 years for a laptop is nothing. It couldn't have possibly aged that bad. From what I see other people saying I can assume the game is terribly optimized.
the game is just terribly optimized. I feel like with every new update, the game takes more to run. I usually don't use mods or add-ons, but i had to download things like sodium/lithium just so my game could run at 60 fps
@@magicmanpreza1081 It's not quite "terribly optimized" it's moreso java is singlecore while bedrock is in C++ which uses more than 1 core.
I paid $500 for a Series X, and much of that decision was driven by a promised, better Minecraft experience. But it’s more broken on Series X (and maybe PS5 as well?) than it was on its predecessor. The fact that I can’t do anything about that is infuriating, and the fact that Mojang has given no word on when changes will be made is even more infuriating. Console has been left totally in the dark. The only way anything will ever change is if people on the other platforms starts speaking out for the 5% of players who are on console.
I have a buddy who actually figured out how to import MCPEDL add-ons, texture packs, and what-not on an Xbox One using some weird file manager from the MS store alongside Edge and it actually worked. The fact that you can literally do that and the game supports it like any other platform yet it appears you have to buy mine coins to get anything special is absurd.
I thought they were all patched? everyone started doing that and MS caught on and fixed it all up
@@ilovesoup3020 Some File Managers can still somewhat alter the files. Most can't though because of the patch.
Kinda sad 4J stopped making console edition, the had so much going for them going into 2017 like mini games until Microsoft shut them down, I remember the leaks of Skywars or Build battle mini games.
WAIT THEY WERE GONNA GET *MORE* MINIGAMES?! MİCROSOFT WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU DOING
@@animationcity8178 Yea Ik it’s painful to think that we have bedrock now instead of console especially more mini games, I still play console though, it’s way more enjoyable.
@@adrianbruno3846 Same
@@adrianbruno3846 it really is even though it’s 8 major versions behind on Xbox one. I play it to this day even though I had bedrock edition since it came out in 2017. It’s genuinely saddening to see it in complete limbo and it’s just dead air across the whole game. Not that bedrock is better but I don’t know how online is still working, there’s nobody ever online but me.
You can tell 4J cared for the community unlike those other $cumbag$. It is full of potential that was promptly killed off. If only bedrock stayed on mobile and legacy console was still mainstream. Wasted potential that wouldn’t have been wasted if it weren’t for Micro$oft.
The thumbnail I’ve been waiting for, it’s beautiful
To me one of the worst things about the market place is not being able to use ANY of your TEXTURE PACKS, WORLDS, SKINS and COSMETICS if you're offline.
On Legacy Console Edition once I bought a skin pack or a texture pack I could use them whenever I wanted. Wherever I wanted. Didn't need to be connected to wifi. But on Bedrock I literally can't.
We leave on vacation to somewhere where we don't internet at home so basically I can't use any of my texture packs, skin packs or worlds or cosmetics that I've bought. This is not Ok
This is why I play console using a keyboard.
I also don’t play on servers anymore but I remember you used to be able to add any server back around 2016-2019. I played on some faction servers when the feature was first added.
I recently switched over from console to PC to play MC and the overall, general experience is so much better. My only issue is transferring my saved worlds from console to PC. Once I can do that I’ll probably never play MC on console again unless it’s to play the legacy edition. I agree with all of your points in this video. 🎯💯👏👏👏
If you have realms you can drag and drop them.
That’s what I did
yeah i miss the legacy console editions, i have the xbox one and wii U console editions and i like those way more than bedrock on the console. when i got a pc tho i just generally switched to java cause i think if ur on pc java just makes more sense as it seems more designed for pc
@@accuratemrstuff3842 I miss the legacy edition too at times but overall I’m comparatively content with the modern versions of the game by comparison. I only play the legacy edition for the occasional nostalgia trip.
I’ve recently began playing the Java edition again for the first time in years but I’m playing v1.16.5 because it won’t work on any version past that even though my PC more than meets the requirements. I contacted Mojang about it months back and was basically told I was SOL and they closed my support ticket promptly after that. I’m still a little upset by the way they handled it and blew me off.
@@jayson3900 oh that's strange i think my friend had a similar issue a while back that he eventually fixed (idk how) but he was stuck on playing super old versions like 1.2 or something and any newer version wouldn't launch
What is that thumbnail
Ye
ikr weird
@Phantom X yeah he changed it was a goose with his face and minecoins
For some reason ur channel icon got me for a second and I thought you were techno lol.
Perfection
I am personally fine with the Bedrock version on Xbox it's just need a more features from the older version and new features in general like:
-The mini games
-Customizable Flatworlds
-Option for Amplified worlds
-Easier options to downloads mods
-Custom Skins
-A few performance improvements like more render distance, more fps
The modding part annoyes me the most because why did they make it so hard/almost impossible to add mods
I miss 360 edition 😪
my childhood was always Minecraft with the very, and oddly comforting graphic.
Compared to bedrock's graphic, it doesn't give me a headach every 2 minutes
I recently got back into my long term survival world, and the flat world challenge. The Xbox Series X works well, but it could be so much better, it often drops fps or just lags out in general. The game is fun, and it’s definitely playable. My biggest problem is mob despawning, wether it’s witches on the flat world or villagers on my long term, too often i find that my cherished mobs are gone without a trace. I understand the basics of why it works differently from java, I do, but there has to be a better way for it to calculate wether a mob does or does not exist.
Furthermore, as of 1.19, mobs often appear to teleport from place to place. On multiple occasions I have seen passive and hostile mobs almost rubber band across the map, my best guess is that the game is doing it so that I doesn’t have to despawn and respawn a mob, but it’s annoying, it looks really buggy, and quite frankly I see no reason why a $500 console can’t properly render some zombies and sheep.
On the other hand, I love your videos, Toycat, please keep uploading, your videos provide me such excellent entertainment! Toycat is yes
Name tags prevent despawns
toycat ist ja!!
Тойкат ис ес!
and finally, toycat is yes!!!!!
Minecraft for Consoles really got the short end of the stick.
that tutorial world you showed in the video brings back so many memories omg
“I’ve poured so many years of my life into loving this game that just isn’t loving me back anymore…”
I feel like this video is a good example of the poor support bedrock gets in general, for the version that is more easily accessible compared to Java the support for it is very poor
Tomcat, for your laptop make sure that Minecraft is actually running on your dedicated graphics card instead of the integrated Intel one. To do this (if I remember off the top of my head), right click the desktop, click display settings, scroll down to the bottom, click graphics settings, add an app, choose Minecraft, then click options on Minecraft (in that menu), now choose high performance GPU. Hopefully that should solve the issue. :)
Also, yes that PC you showed at the start of the video, yes I am jealous of that Pentium III beast!! Haha
You spelt Daddycat's name wrong smh.
Well his laptop could not have a mux switch so he may not be able to do that
@@AyaanThe0ne haha, my stupid autocorrect did that twice, I wrote toycat and it autocorrected to Tomcat and then I erased it and put toycat and it stayed so it must of autocorrected again just before I posted it... :)
I remember getting a new laptop and being like "ugh why is Minecraft running at 20 FPS at low settings" lmao
Rtx Is hard, im on a 3050 ,AND ITS hard to get above 60+, i have to decide between that or disabling gsyng AND get blured ,2070 Is less powerfull
Microsoft needs to bring back 4J Studios. What the hell has Microsoft done right now?!
What I do is since I have an old disc version of Minecraft I delete the game, turn my WiFi off, put the disc in and let it auto install. That makes it install to the version that existed when you bought the game, so I can play on the OG tutorial map and without the new textures, blocks, features, bugs etc.
I love how fortnite, a game that seems more demanding for your console runs way better than a game where you just place block, explore and mine. Not to mention the fact fortnite has cross play on all platforms and the friend system on their is way more friendly. I don’t know why Microsoft can’t make their own game actually feel good on their own console like it frustrates me that I can’t even go to the nether without the game stuttering every other second AFTER I turn my graphics all the way down
Ngl, ironically enough Fortnite is doing everything better than Minecraft currently which is funny after all the "Minecraft good Fortnite bad" kids from years ago
Examples of course being the feature delays that just made each update as of recent suck, and apparently I just heard about some really annoying chat enforcement (I have not played Minecraft at all since they began doing the feature delays, and I don't plan on playing it again so I don't keep up with everything that happens)
But then Fortnite is out here making banger updates all the time, ngl
Yeah and on new consoles there's Ray tracing and Fortnite still gets a solid 120
@@wariothemilkman I don't like Fortnite, but yes, Fortnite wins with Minecraft now days :p
Not today Fortnite has been getting a decent amount of hate.
Can we talk about how useless these new blocks are in the new update? Sure the mud block looks nice, but I have such an abundance of mangrove roots and have not a clue what to do with them. Same could be said of it's single and useless crafting recipe the muddy mangrove root block. I wish these new blocks could have some sort of use beyond its natural generation.
I'm glad you shed some light onto this I thought my voice would never be heard
i don't know if you decided where to go on your road trip, but if you went to Montana then definitely take a pitstop by Butte! i grew up there and i can tell you it has some really cool tourist and history locations of the mining town and some amazing food! Pork Chop Johns had some of the best Pork chop sandwiches ive ever had and Sparkys Garage 2 has some of the best Fries ever! they even have an old fashioned Truck that the bed is redesigned as a table for guests! its overall really cool small town!
Fun fact: when you port a game to pc from mobile phones from 2012 and then port it to the newest consoles without any platform special adjustments it is going to be bad and buggy. Congratulations, now you know something that a studio worth millions of dollars doesn't know.
Also the servers are not bad, at least 3 of them, and it is really good than like some servers on java, you cannot get scammed, because all purchases are done with minecoins and they are controlled by Microsoft.
And Microsoft would absolutely never scam anyone
Before watching the video, I assume from the title and thumbnail that you stopped playing minecraft Xbox edition because the minecoins turned you into a goose.
god just had a mini heart attack, your hit the like swoosh sound sounded like someone was trying to break into my room I couldnt figure out what the hell was going on
If you think it's bad on the Xbox One, try playing it on switch. I have a multiplayer world with my younger brothers on switch and whenever we're all on there the frame rate is like 10 fps. it's horrible. A lot of the time I play on the PS5 and that is really nice and smooth by comparison
My series x was an intense jump up from my one s. One S had 14 chunks render distance, and took about 5 minutes to load the menu screen. Series x has 28 chunks and less than 30 seconds to load. So much faster and nicer. Definitely have the same frame rate issues in 1.19 though, it physically hurts to watch and it’s been a bit since I’ve played due to that
I still only have an Xbox One S
at least you was better at what system you choose
Some people think the Xbox one S all digital edition would save them money
I have gotten two Xbox 360 games and yes they both £15 on the store
for less than £3.50
The last part of console was ps4 edition. It was a great send off but it wasn’t a good transition. The game on bedrock isn’t optimized on anything besides your phone and that’s a simple and annoying fact about bedrock. RIP 4j, they seem to get thrown to the sidelines for the longest time just to come back for something else… also you can’t even play some packs on bedrock, Halloween 2015 mashup is just an error and you have to rebuy it, that’s absolutely unfair to consumers (console players)
I bought a skin pack for Doctor who that was on the PS4 page for minecraft. Only to find out you can’t play with those packs at all in the game. And you can’t find them on the marketplace. They were on there before ps4 changed to bedrock, but now it’s like avoid.. and I wasted $5
The wii u version is still legacy edition
I used to play on Xbox until I was getting prompts for storage being full. However, even after clearing both the in game memory as well as my Xbox it would still pop up. It eventually got to the point where I couldn’t create any worlds at all because my “storage was full”. After contacting both Mojang and Microsoft and even trying a total reset on the Xbox, I was never able to get that issue to go away. So that was my reason for switching to PC..
I seriously don't understand how people have issues typing on controller, I can almost type as fast on controller as on keyboard, it's not that hard or frustrating.
Commenting so more people see this video! All the points made here are solid.
I went back to Xbox myself and I was thinking "People have to play like this"? And the fact that theirs no custom servers and they force you on realms is crazy because realms is unreliable!
Also, that features they had for years on the console version aren't there now just makes this way worse. Why can't my Series X do what my Xbox 360 do?
Microsoft took over of you didn’t know, that’s what changed since Xbox 360 Minecraft.
6:17 Starting with Android 11 Google made some questionable things that makes it almost impossible to access Mojang/Minecraft folder
What phone are you using ? There are apps that let you access to those folders without any restrictions. Mine works just fine.
I'm curious on why they did that since things like backing up files are a key part of maintance
I like skyblock and wanted to play it on my Switch on the go, so I got a skyblock map from the marketplace. It had so many problems. I couldn't always play the map I bought, because I kept needing to re log into my Microsoft account almost every other time I launched the game. Not only that, but the map isn't able to be updated anymore (can't reach 1.17 I think). Market place maps from before the world height limit can't be updated. I was excited to play skyblock with moss blocks specifically, but no. I ended up recreating my skyblock map in creative on Java so I could keep play the game properly. I guess I have gone full circle, because I used to play Java Edition but switched to Bedrock Edition on the Switch to play on the go, but now I play Java on the Steam Deck.
If you use the 4JD UI pack for Bedrock, you can get the legacy console UI! Pretty nostalgic
Need to try this
I am going to be honest, the last version of Minecraft I truly played was the Xbox One edition, the 4J one. With all the controversial takes from Mojang-Microsoft lately, along with how sad the Bedrock Edition is on Series X (one of the reasons I loved getting Series X was looking forward to an eventual raytracing update).
It’s making me realize just how much better older versions of the game are compared to the Microsoft-ized versions. Sure on the Xbox One edition there are none of the new features, no infinite worlds, but eh. It doesn’t matter much to me if I am in the mood to play the game.
I truly thought Minecraft was going to be one of those games I held onto for the longest time, but Microsoft is losing me here. I unsubbed from my realms and so on, and just haven’t been playing their Microsoft-ized version of the game anymore.
Fun Fact: Microsoft normally allows the companies they buy out to have alot of freedom in what they do
So the likely story is that Mojang just doesn't care about you the way alot of people seemed to think they did
Probably a mix of different people working there and they have confidence they can probably do anything and still succeed because of the name they've built for themselves
Like Pokemon for example, where they crank of crappy games but don't care because they know the stupid fans will eat it up
Minecraft/Mojang/Microsoft needs to have Minecraft the same on every device and only have one version of minecraft costing 30$ and not having different pros and cons for every device also add a way to make things free on the market place and allow more people to add things to the market place some mods can improve minecraft but not for every device and have a version of minecraft called minecraft beta for free for every device if you own minecraft it's simple minecraft can do it but won't. No hate to anyone we love minecraft and hope your all doing well. Btw amazing video keep up the great work Ibxtoycat goodbye!
Be careful what you wish for
@@palmberry5576 lol not wrong
I would hate that, being strictly a java player myself. I despise bedrock edition
@@Drakorvich oof I am a bedrock player and I am fine with both versions but both needs improocments
That won't work purely because Java is... Java. Xbox doesn't run on Java, mobiles don't, etc. Java will always be superior purely because it's the most unrestricted.
Fun fact, awhile ago Xbox series X had a glitch on Minecraft where you couldn’t load worlds. Took them a fat minute to fix that. It took at least 1-2 months
I wish there were more people to make website to download mods for console for any game
In my opinion I do agree how Xbox Minecraft used to be really unique and fun with custom made mini games with awesome lobbies but now is just servers and not many fun things. Last year I actually bought a disc of classic Xbox one edition Minecraft just to feel like I'm playing Minecraft again
Same reason I don’t play a lot of games on Xbox anymore. I still haven’t been able to get my hands on a reasonably priced Series X and decided to put the money I had saved for the SX into a Nvidia RTX, best decision I have ever made in regards to tech, the rendering distance is light years away from what I had on my One X.
As a ps5 player, it grinding my gears That rdr2 has rtx on ps4 and Xbox. but minecraft has apparently thought that the console has the same power as 1970 computer.
Most people: despite many bugs, bedrock is equal on all platforms
Toycat: hold my beer
Bro, you should try minecraft xbox one edition, it has a great community, amazing hosts and outstandingly good online features.
That where he started my friend
That's where he started. Legacy editon was where the MAJORITY of us started.
In some of your very early xbox let's play you said that consoles would be the future, so have the tables changed.
Microsoft likely will not focus too much on consoles unless it was more profitable, same reason they won't be making bedrock on linux as you can't force linux users to have windows store to play it
Traditionally games were made for consoles. Minecraft is really among the few games made specifically for PC. Then when they copied the coding from java into c++ the baseline was really the same. It was modified to work with iPhone and Xbox but it wasn’t made for them really.
the tutorial worlds and the mini games were my childhood 😭
To this day, console if my favorite version in my opinion. And if console was never discontinued, 1.18 would have most likely brought infinite worlds to them.
i miss the old controller support and the crafting of the console edition of minecraft
As of 1.19.31 minecraft unoptimized itself further by breaking the text interface UI
I haven't played MC in xbox for years cuz I also pretty much hate that BE on xbox. I really loved the original Xbox One Edition but unfortunately it hasn't been updated for decades but I still have it.
Thats good, because it seems to be in 1.12.2 aka the best minecraft version because it’s before all the laggy stuff gets added
Plus it has better tutoriels than bedrock, in which was just a guide screaming “read it yourself”