It’s not about the 0-60 times. It’s about the fun. You can buy really fast cars especially EVs but few would argue they are more fun. Also when all the manuals are gone in 5, 10 years cars like the Si will be collector cars.
@@darealestwonit’s a 6.7 second car but it feels like a 6.0 sec car. Regardless you get to wring it out and shift more and the engine likes to rev and the manual is one of the best so it’s really fun to do so
We are spoiled up here in Canada. Took one of these on a test drive a few days ago. Going to get one next year when my current lease on a CRV is up. Canadian model gets a bunch of goodies (at least according to Honda Canada website) that you guys don't. Actual spare tire, dual zone climate control, front and rear parking sensors and wireless charging. MSRP in Canada is $37,800. I have not driven a manual for 3.5 years and when I got in this it was like no time had passed. So easy to drive and so fun!
Awesome engineering which is so underrated as usual. Awesome reliability, Awesome crash test rating, Awesome tech and fun....integra is going to benefit even more sales would increase with more colours and options
Alex and Travis, It is refreshing to see you driving a manual and it is good to see the Si lives on. Let's hope the Si lives on long enough to become a real hatchback some day. 🤞🤞
I dont know this 1.5 turbo doesn't appeal to me ... I would have preferred a 2.0 litre Na like they had before ..the high revving nature....that was fun ... It feels like you are driving something special
Glad they added heated seats and updated the gauge cluster; this gets closer to the spec that Canada had/has. I wish they would add a "touring' trim that added some additional niceties, like charging pad, heated wheel, maybe leather and soft touch door cards. I would love an Si but would like something in between this and the Integra.
10:18 I don't mind it there, as long as there is a ring, or a button, or something to lock out Reverse. I hate the shifters where Reverse is just 1st gear pushed a bit harder to the left.
Great review and comparison, Alex! The 20-year old in me would choose the SI with no hesitation. The more mature me would prefer the Hybrid for its efficiency, comfort, etc. One issue with SI is its availability- they don't make many, and dealer markups that inevitably follow. Still, it's a great car for an enthusiast driver.
In 2019 it came down to the 35th Anniversary GLI and Si for me. In went with the GLI because the Si had ridiculous rev hang, odd clutch take-up, and a crunchy 2-3 shift. The rest of the car was fine. The styling was a bit much but not a deal breaker. Four trouble free years with the GLI, and I would still lean in that direction, I think.
Give it a couple more years or more miles. It’s common knowledge that VW’s have higher repair bills as they age. Just be prepared and not surprised. Nice car though!
@@SirOsisofLiver loved the mk 6.5 it was kinda muscular and understated ...the latest one ... Especially the rear end ... And uninspiring front end ..can't seem to get around ...
Alex, love the Si, but the GLI is really the only competitor. Got it, there's just no beating a honda shifter. They're experts at making shifters some of the best in the world, but you mentioned these cars are becoming more mature. The GLI costs a bit more but has power/memory seats, heated/cooled seats, dual zone climate, larger moonroof, Mk7 Golf R brakes, adaptive dampers, etc. It would be interesting to do an episode of the 2025 Si and GLI side by side. Some minor track work and real world living. Enjoyed the episode, thanks.
@@afcgeo882 Whatever man, I am also no the narrator of this video. Ok to answer your question. Yes this is my first day, and I don't want to be bother. If I did not answer your question correctly. Then actually, I did not understand it. Ok?
I think the new Civic hybrid hatchback makes the Integra feel like a terrible value for the money. i test drove a 2025 Integra and a 2025 Honda Civic Hybrid and I just think you get so much more value on the Civic. 50 mpgs, built in Google, and driving it feels a little more peppy and overall more refined. I really hope the 2026 Integra gets a hyrbid option.
When it comes to reverse gear location in the pattern, towards the driver and up is by far the most common placement. I am including commercial weight vehicles in this claim because that’s where a lot of manual transmission still exists. I personally don’t care as long as it is well gated. I could imagine that a person might grow a preference to either what they are most familiar with or perhaps had some bad experiences with poorly gated patterns that made it overly easy to get a gear you weren’t trying to select.
I think for $28k out the door this would be a great car, however at its $31k price tag it think it is just good. The GLI with a manual is a good alternative with more power or the Elantra N which is better in every way but does cost a couple grand more. What I find sad is how few affordable manual sedans are now on sale.
Got a 2019 Civic Si (10th Gen), I most likely stick with the new Si. Although what I seen of the Google Built-in and what I been reading from Accord users. I not that fond of it. I am still a bit torn bit the Si and the Integra A-spec Tech.
Today, I went on a test drive at the dealer. I was deeply disappointed. When I got into the cabin, I immediately noticed a strong smell of cheap plastic. The engine sound was awful, the steering felt lifeless, and there was little space in the back for passengers. When I sat behind myself, my head was touching the ceiling. This car is so beautifully advertised, but once you go for a test drive, you'll be disappointed.
My opinion is biased because I just bought a carbon copy of this car. There is more to a car than its 0-60 time and interior refinement. I traded in a 2024 Civic Sport Touring Hatchback manual for my new 2025 Si. I had my reasons, but the biggest was it wasn’t fun to drive. The Si is. It handles much better, has a little more power, and the LSD up front makes a difference. Yes, you could transfer some of the Si’s components onto a new Civic Hybrid, but you still wouldn’t have Honda’s excellent 6-speed manual shifter and gearbox. Both cars are somewhat purpose built, with the Si being the enthusiast’s choice. As I said in another post somewhere on UA-cam, the Hybrid is a car you buy with your head, and the Si with your heart.
I own the twenty two honda civic si. And even though I have fake recess fog lights. I like the front end of my car much more than the new one. Oh and by the way I could care less about heated seats.
Reverse should always be next to first IMO. Not only does it prevent you from accidentally hitting reverse while driving, but it makes maneuvering in parking lots just easier with them right next to each other. An interesting note is cable operated shifters pretty much always have reverse to the lower right. While RWD transmissions tend to have it by first.
Reverse up and towards the driver is a euro thing. Honda's, Mazda's, Toyotas all are back and towards the passenger. Its really not that easy to accidentally slip into reverse while driving.
Expect dealer markups in California of $5k or more (if you can find one). Buy a BRZ or WRX or even an Integra Aspec - these can actually be purchased at our below MSRP. Honda makes this car exclusively for UA-cam views.
With how cheap LEDs are these days, I struggle to believe manufacturers are actually saving money by using incandescent turn signals or incandescent anything else. It just feels like pure product differentiation to say "this is a cheap vehicle, and it will be more annoying to maintain."
While I agree, it is not uncommon for me to see a vehicle with factory LEDs to have some element not working (like DRLs, running lights etc) and I have to wonder how the user costs would differ when thinking about replacing those whole units as opposed to just swapping a $1.29 bulb.
@@ALMX5DP I do not ever see LED lights not working on other cars, and I've never had it happen to mine. LEDs last a very long time. Some car makers are really bad at even basic things, of course.
@@coder543 yeah it very well may be that some OEMs are better about it than others, though the last one I think I saw was a 10 year old Corolla with its LED headlight out. And seeing those going for $4-500 for a single replacement, on what is now a very inexpensive car that accounts for a considerable percentage. I just wish the LEDs were replaceable instead of having to purchase the whole assembly.
Hey Alex, good review really like the manual option. I’m a long time rower and really prefer reverse on the left ahead of 1st. To me it makes much more sense than having it over by 6th…but then I guess its what you get used to.
AGREED!!!!…I had a 2018 accord sport 2.0 with the 6speed. Such a fun and fast car…this is a missed opportunity IMO by Honda…I have not driven the Si. But I have driven a integra aspec with the manual. I didn’t like it…it needs more power…the 252hp from the 2.0 engine would’ve been amazing in this car
I don’t know if Honda will maintain that title of most manual cars sold in the US. The manual Civic is discontinued for 2025 other than the Si and Type-R, and they no longer offer any other manual vehicles.
i miss the 1.5t. i LOVE the very nice ticky sound it has when it’s idling. i have a soft spot with the last gen accords, civics, and crvs with that engine bc of the sound
@@ALMX5DP Correct, 2024 is the last year you could get the 2.0L NA with a manual transmission in both Civic sedan and hatchback. There are still some new ones available for sale.
I wonder when car manufacturers realize that spare tire is a safety feature. I'm not a fan of government intrusions, but I think that at least providing a space for spare tire should be LEGISLATED. I have no problem paying few hundreds to have it. Like belts and airbags, you hope you never need them. But when you do, you really need them.
I agree. My '23 BRZ did not come with a spare. But, it has a place for a spare! And since it shares a lug pattern with other Subarus, finding a spare is easy.
@Honda really needs to crank up the horsepower and torque on this car. It's been far too long that the MK8 Golf GTI with the last manual transmission for its 2024MY at 243hp, the Jetta GLI with its secondary refresh now still at 228hp and the out going Forte GT with 201hp and 195lb-ft of tq with its manual transmission have been tearing Honda up. Yes, the Civic Si was never about horsepower wars like the S550/S650 gen Mustangs, Alpha platform 5th/6th gen Camaros and the LX platform Challenger and Charger brothers, but in all honesty, the Civic Si really needs to be pushing 230-240hp like the AP1 and AP2 S2000s used to be and give it at least 215-225lb-ft of tq to be the true second most powerful Civic in the lineup over the Civic Hybrid and over its competition now that the MK8.5 Golf GTI is only DCT for the 2025MY (and the 2026MY) as this will be the final gen Golf cars ever built including the MK8.5 Golf R too, the secondary refresh Jetta GLI, and the new Kia K4. Staying stagnant at 200hp and 192lb-ft of tq is not a good look for Honda themselves and the Civic Si community. I get it. You can modify it if you want more power, but why ruin the warranty when it should come heavily performed out of the assembly plant line with the warranty?
NOT GON' LIE--the 11th gen Civic (especially sedan) is absolutely gorgeous from the outside, not bad from the inside too. BUT, I hear it's less dynamic than the 10th gen and slower :(
Reverse gear is definitely in the correct location there. :) And I assume no stupid lift-up collar to shift into R? Those seats look pretty bad though to my eye, way too boy-racerish. Are they optional or standard in the SI?
I've not seen that in a while. My uncle had a Chevy Optra with that shift pattern (it was a 5 speed manual), but it was quite difficult to shift into reverse because of the lift-up collar. The most common location of reverse I've seen is down and to the right (5 speed manual transmissions, 6 speeds aren't really common in my location).
@@parthpatels007 Do you mean the cumulative greed rate? Inflation exists, sure, but greed since COVID has caused irreparable harm on lower and middle income people's.
Not sure how the Forte GT with 201 HP, 1.6T manual transmission, IRS, sans an LCD, better audio in my opinion, rear vents, and about $4k cheaper was not mentioned as a direct competitor (plus the Honda's near me jack up the prices). I test drove both back to back it's comparable. Not even sure in this day and age the Honda would last longer and the Forte has a 10 year warranty. If you are in the market it's worth checking out.
What a fancy toy car! As opposed to a real car -- Civic Hybrid. I'm a happy 22 Civic (non-turbo) owner, will surely buy Civic Hybrid as soon as the last wheel falls off my current Civic. Presumably in 15 years or so.
Enjoy your NPC mobile devoid of personality, fun, and enjoyment. I'm sure it will bring many bland days of point a to point b and hundreds of trips to the grocery store to pick up white fish and mild salsa.
@@tim3172 Oh, no, you misunderstood me. I appreciate the concept of a toy car. But once you sit in a traffic jam for two hours, you kind-of think what's the point of you shifting between 1st and 2nd all along for hours.
Though everything has crept up in price recently, I think the Si pricing increase has been relatively tame compared to many. I recall the 2014 started at $22,500, so this being still under 30 is pretty decent. Heck even a 2005 Si was like $19-20k..
16:11 from second to fourth gear and from fourth gear to six gear! Really? DO THAT EVERY SINGLE DAY YOU’LL END UP WITH NEW TRANSMISSION!!!! (This is how you separate the vlogger to a license service tech!)
It’s not about the 0-60 times. It’s about the fun. You can buy really fast cars especially EVs but few would argue they are more fun. Also when all the manuals are gone in 5, 10 years cars like the Si will be collector cars.
Preach!
Yes; keeping my 2021 WRX for that reason. Next car soon will be a Toyota Hybrid SUV and the Subaru WRX stays in the garage.
It’s quick enough in real world daily driving too.
@@darealestwonit’s a 6.7 second car but it feels like a 6.0 sec car. Regardless you get to wring it out and shift more and the engine likes to rev and the manual is one of the best so it’s really fun to do so
@@MonkeyPower55 it is. I have a 10rh gen si
We are spoiled up here in Canada. Took one of these on a test drive a few days ago. Going to get one next year when my current lease on a CRV is up. Canadian model gets a bunch of goodies (at least according to Honda Canada website) that you guys don't. Actual spare tire, dual zone climate control, front and rear parking sensors and wireless charging. MSRP in Canada is $37,800. I have not driven a manual for 3.5 years and when I got in this it was like no time had passed. So easy to drive and so fun!
Awesome engineering which is so underrated as usual. Awesome reliability, Awesome crash test rating, Awesome tech and fun....integra is going to benefit even more sales would increase with more colours and options
You had me with the manual transmission.
Alex and Travis, It is refreshing to see you driving a manual and it is good to see the Si lives on. Let's hope the Si lives on long enough to become a real hatchback some day. 🤞🤞
True! Is not about the speed! Civic Si is all about engaging!!! Love my civic Si 2025 in rally red!
I love this car because it takes skills, most anyone can drive an automatic, not everyone can drive manual well.
I dont know this 1.5 turbo doesn't appeal to me ... I would have preferred a 2.0 litre Na like they had before ..the high revving nature....that was fun ... It feels like you are driving something special
Glad they added heated seats and updated the gauge cluster; this gets closer to the spec that Canada had/has. I wish they would add a "touring' trim that added some additional niceties, like charging pad, heated wheel, maybe leather and soft touch door cards. I would love an Si but would like something in between this and the Integra.
10:18 I don't mind it there, as long as there is a ring, or a button, or something to lock out Reverse. I hate the shifters where Reverse is just 1st gear pushed a bit harder to the left.
Great review and comparison, Alex! The 20-year old in me would choose the SI with no hesitation. The more mature me would prefer the Hybrid for its efficiency, comfort, etc. One issue with SI is its availability- they don't make many, and dealer markups that inevitably follow. Still, it's a great car for an enthusiast driver.
Only four exterior colors? This is becoming a new pet-peeve of mine is automakers with lame color palets.
In 2019 it came down to the 35th Anniversary GLI and Si for me. In went with the GLI because the Si had ridiculous rev hang, odd clutch take-up, and a crunchy 2-3 shift. The rest of the car was fine. The styling was a bit much but not a deal breaker.
Four trouble free years with the GLI, and I would still lean in that direction, I think.
Give it a couple more years or more miles. It’s common knowledge that VW’s have higher repair bills as they age. Just be prepared and not surprised. Nice car though!
So you have a mk 7 Jetta GLI ...do you like the looks of it ?
@@cyrilmatthew2995
I do. It's black with red pin stripes on the rims and grill.
But I like the generally subdued VAG styling.
@@SirOsisofLiver loved the mk 6.5 it was kinda muscular and understated ...the latest one ... Especially the rear end ... And uninspiring front end ..can't seem to get around ...
Alex, love the Si, but the GLI is really the only competitor. Got it, there's just no beating a honda shifter. They're experts at making shifters some of the best in the world, but you mentioned these cars are becoming more mature. The GLI costs a bit more but has power/memory seats, heated/cooled seats, dual zone climate, larger moonroof, Mk7 Golf R brakes, adaptive dampers, etc. It would be interesting to do an episode of the 2025 Si and GLI side by side. Some minor track work and real world living. Enjoyed the episode, thanks.
Also it's still a Mazda 3 Premium Hatch. With a smooth shifting shifter, but no LSD.
@@terrancemoore496Is the turbo available with the manual?
@afcgeo882 is what turbo? The GLI come in DCT and 6spd manual.
@@terrancemoore496 Is this your first day using UA-cam? You made ONE comment and I’m referring to it.
@@afcgeo882 Whatever man, I am also no the narrator of this video. Ok to answer your question. Yes this is my first day, and I don't want to be bother. If I did not answer your question correctly. Then actually, I did not understand it. Ok?
Also the new refreshed VW Jetta GLI. (As you mentioned during drive).
I think the new Civic hybrid hatchback makes the Integra feel like a terrible value for the money. i test drove a 2025 Integra and a 2025 Honda Civic Hybrid and I just think you get so much more value on the Civic. 50 mpgs, built in Google, and driving it feels a little more peppy and overall more refined. I really hope the 2026 Integra gets a hyrbid option.
When it comes to reverse gear location in the pattern, towards the driver and up is by far the most common placement. I am including commercial weight vehicles in this claim because that’s where a lot of manual transmission still exists. I personally don’t care as long as it is well gated. I could imagine that a person might grow a preference to either what they are most familiar with or perhaps had some bad experiences with poorly gated patterns that made it overly easy to get a gear you weren’t trying to select.
My vote go for the hybrid hatchback.
I’ve considered the Si for the past 5 years or so. If they’d offer one in a hatchback (I had a 1984 Civic S hatchback) then I’d pull the trigger.
Please bring us a full review on the Civic hybrid hatchback😇
I remember when the Civic was a nice little compact car, now it's HUGE !!! RIP Civic:-((((
Will the Elantra, change with the coming K4, or will it continue on, as is? After that, next year the K3 comes.
Beautiful video, Alex & Co.
I think for $28k out the door this would be a great car, however at its $31k price tag it think it is just good. The GLI with a manual is a good alternative with more power or the Elantra N which is better in every way but does cost a couple grand more. What I find sad is how few affordable manual sedans are now on sale.
I think the GLI will be lower priced out the door.
Si drives so much better than the GLi
Got a 2019 Civic Si (10th Gen), I most likely stick with the new Si. Although what I seen of the Google Built-in and what I been reading from Accord users. I not that fond of it. I am still a bit torn bit the Si and the Integra A-spec Tech.
Today, I went on a test drive at the dealer.
I was deeply disappointed.
When I got into the cabin, I immediately noticed a strong smell of cheap plastic. The engine sound was awful, the steering felt lifeless, and there was little space in the back for passengers. When I sat behind myself, my head was touching the ceiling. This car is so beautifully advertised, but once you go for a test drive, you'll be disappointed.
My opinion is biased because I just bought a carbon copy of this car.
There is more to a car than its 0-60 time and interior refinement. I traded in a 2024 Civic Sport Touring Hatchback manual for my new 2025 Si. I had my reasons, but the biggest was it wasn’t fun to drive. The Si is. It handles much better, has a little more power, and the LSD up front makes a difference.
Yes, you could transfer some of the Si’s components onto a new Civic Hybrid, but you still wouldn’t have Honda’s excellent 6-speed manual shifter and gearbox. Both cars are somewhat purpose built, with the Si being the enthusiast’s choice.
As I said in another post somewhere on UA-cam, the Hybrid is a car you buy with your head, and the Si with your heart.
I own the twenty two honda civic si. And even though I have fake recess fog lights. I like the front end of my car much more than the new one. Oh and by the way I could care less about heated seats.
Reverse should always be next to first IMO. Not only does it prevent you from accidentally hitting reverse while driving, but it makes maneuvering in parking lots just easier with them right next to each other. An interesting note is cable operated shifters pretty much always have reverse to the lower right. While RWD transmissions tend to have it by first.
Reverse up and towards the driver is a euro thing. Honda's, Mazda's, Toyotas all are back and towards the passenger. Its really not that easy to accidentally slip into reverse while driving.
@ Mazda Miata, Toyota 86/Subaru BRZ, Mustang, and Camaro all have reverse by first. None of those are European.
In Canada they are selling this for $47G, and truck cost $50g
My first stick shift 70s Volkswagen had reverse down and to the left so that’s why I’m stuck with thinking that’s the best.
Size comparison is with hatchback instead of the sedan SI.
There is no hatchback Si.
Expect dealer markups in California of $5k or more (if you can find one). Buy a BRZ or WRX or even an Integra Aspec - these can actually be purchased at our below MSRP. Honda makes this car exclusively for UA-cam views.
hey Alex-- love your work- how bout talking about tge Mazda3 hatch 6MT as a Si competitor???? ( i think its still available for 2025)…
Manual hand brake please
With how cheap LEDs are these days, I struggle to believe manufacturers are actually saving money by using incandescent turn signals or incandescent anything else. It just feels like pure product differentiation to say "this is a cheap vehicle, and it will be more annoying to maintain."
While I agree, it is not uncommon for me to see a vehicle with factory LEDs to have some element not working (like DRLs, running lights etc) and I have to wonder how the user costs would differ when thinking about replacing those whole units as opposed to just swapping a $1.29 bulb.
@@ALMX5DP I do not ever see LED lights not working on other cars, and I've never had it happen to mine. LEDs last a very long time. Some car makers are really bad at even basic things, of course.
@@coder543 yeah it very well may be that some OEMs are better about it than others, though the last one I think I saw was a 10 year old Corolla with its LED headlight out. And seeing those going for $4-500 for a single replacement, on what is now a very inexpensive car that accounts for a considerable percentage. I just wish the LEDs were replaceable instead of having to purchase the whole assembly.
What I don’t get, is the HRV gets full LED taillights but the bigger more expensive CRV has a combination set up. Odd choice on Hondas part
If you're that triggered by it, simply buy an LED replacement bulb for less than a dollar per side.
I would just get the hybrid touring sedan. I don’t need a manual transmission. I already have an Integra Type S.
Those wheels are the same as the Acura Integra A-Spec model.
Hey Alex, good review really like the manual option. I’m a long time rower and really prefer reverse on the left ahead of 1st. To me it makes much more sense than having it over by 6th…but then I guess its what you get used to.
honda should bring back the 2.0 turbo that was on accord and put it on Si. It needs atleast 250hp.
I wish they went for 2.0 litre turbo not stressed as much as the 1.5 ... Or I would prefer the high revving Na 2.0
Honda has DONE THAT! !!!!!!!!! it's called the TYPE R ! :D
AGREED!!!!…I had a 2018 accord sport 2.0 with the 6speed. Such a fun and fast car…this is a missed opportunity IMO by Honda…I have not driven the Si. But I have driven a integra aspec with the manual. I didn’t like it…it needs more power…the 252hp from the 2.0 engine would’ve been amazing in this car
I curious that with the new Google built-in. Does the new 2025 Civic Si still includes Sirius/XM radio?
Is there an option to delete the moonroof?
Did anyone notice that heated seats are in it now?
I don’t know if Honda will maintain that title of most manual cars sold in the US. The manual Civic is discontinued for 2025 other than the Si and Type-R, and they no longer offer any other manual vehicles.
civic sport touring hybrid 2025 with more power, better acceleration, low fuel...is a better choice!!
Anyone know how reliable the 1.5 turbo is? I hear it has issues.
i miss the 1.5t. i LOVE the very nice ticky sound it has when it’s idling. i have a soft spot with the last gen accords, civics, and crvs with that engine bc of the sound
This has the 1.5t.
@@afcgeo882 in the non-si models
The COMPARO we need is: SI vs. Hybrid.............
Buy a 2.0L NA Civic Sport with a manual transmission, you will thank yourself later!
I don’t think that combination is available anymore.
@@ALMX5DP Correct, 2024 is the last year you could get the 2.0L NA with a manual transmission in both Civic sedan and hatchback. There are still some new ones available for sale.
@chih6654 Manual / NA 2.0 was only available as hatchback but not sedan, starting with 2022 Civics.
8:58 I wonder if this Civic Si is worth it. 😊
Personally, I would get the Si over the hybrid. How about comparing the Si to the BRZ/86 twins? Not everyone needs four doors.
E-CVT vs Elantra N DCT 🤔 28:18
You think that this is good enough to fit two car seats comfortably???
Appreciate the NEW WHEELS, can you believe it? The previous SI just used the regular Sport-trim wheels! How cheap.
I wonder when car manufacturers realize that spare tire is a safety feature.
I'm not a fan of government intrusions, but I think that at least providing a space for spare tire should be LEGISLATED.
I have no problem paying few hundreds to have it.
Like belts and airbags, you hope you never need them. But when you do, you really need them.
I agree. My '23 BRZ did not come with a spare. But, it has a place for a spare! And since it shares a lug pattern with other Subarus, finding a spare is easy.
@Honda really needs to crank up the horsepower and torque on this car.
It's been far too long that the MK8 Golf GTI with the last manual transmission for its 2024MY at 243hp, the Jetta GLI with its secondary refresh now still at 228hp and the out going Forte GT with 201hp and 195lb-ft of tq with its manual transmission have been tearing Honda up.
Yes, the Civic Si was never about horsepower wars like the S550/S650 gen Mustangs, Alpha platform 5th/6th gen Camaros and the LX platform Challenger and Charger brothers, but in all honesty, the Civic Si really needs to be pushing 230-240hp like the AP1 and AP2 S2000s used to be and give it at least 215-225lb-ft of tq to be the true second most powerful Civic in the lineup over the Civic Hybrid and over its competition now that the MK8.5 Golf GTI is only DCT for the 2025MY (and the 2026MY) as this will be the final gen Golf cars ever built including the MK8.5 Golf R too, the secondary refresh Jetta GLI, and the new Kia K4.
Staying stagnant at 200hp and 192lb-ft of tq is not a good look for Honda themselves and the Civic Si community. I get it. You can modify it if you want more power, but why ruin the warranty when it should come heavily performed out of the assembly plant line with the warranty?
I wonder if you can do an engine swap with a more powerful Honda engine motor like the R
It’s been dyno tested and puts 200hp to the wheels so it’s actually closer to the 225-230hp number in actuality.
Wouldn't this car be faster than the hybrid on a racetrack?
The new bumper doesn't bother me. It's make it looks better in my opinion.
Prefer the CIVIC looks, PREFER the Integra interior...
Wow, the refresh didn't go down to 195hp? I'm impressed Honda!
Needs just a little more motor with no rev hang and it’s a hit
NOT GON' LIE--the 11th gen Civic (especially sedan) is absolutely gorgeous from the outside, not bad from the inside too. BUT, I hear it's less dynamic than the 10th gen and slower :(
Nice looking accord
Reverse gear is definitely in the correct location there. :) And I assume no stupid lift-up collar to shift into R?
Those seats look pretty bad though to my eye, way too boy-racerish. Are they optional or standard in the SI?
I've not seen that in a while. My uncle had a Chevy Optra with that shift pattern (it was a 5 speed manual), but it was quite difficult to shift into reverse because of the lift-up collar. The most common location of reverse I've seen is down and to the right (5 speed manual transmissions, 6 speeds aren't really common in my location).
Love the SI but every time a reviewer do 0-60 in 8 seconds it breaks my heart and want to get hybrid
0:50 front bulge looks like a few Toyota products
Kia Forte GT 6-speed 201HP
Crazy how expensive these have gotten. Got a 10th gen in 2018 for $23,995 with a $1,000 discount.
I understand what you mean. But to put it in perspective, 2025's MSRP is on par with the cumulative inflation rate of 25.4% since 2018.
@@parthpatels007 Do you mean the cumulative greed rate? Inflation exists, sure, but greed since COVID has caused irreparable harm on lower and middle income people's.
Reverse should always be on the far right.
Hybrid with premium Summer tires
Like for manual
I'd consider it if in hatchback form. Si sedan looks boring.
Elantra N-Line
Mazda3 hatchback 6MT!
The SI is SLOWER than the hybrid Civic???? Seriously 😂😅😮
Shame it uses a turbo
I think I will get VW GTI over Si
how is this vs integra
Not sure how the Forte GT with 201 HP, 1.6T manual transmission, IRS, sans an LCD, better audio in my opinion, rear vents, and about $4k cheaper was not mentioned as a direct competitor (plus the Honda's near me jack up the prices). I test drove both back to back it's comparable. Not even sure in this day and age the Honda would last longer and the Forte has a 10 year warranty. If you are in the market it's worth checking out.
Hyundai Elantra n line same power just no lsd
What a fancy toy car!
As opposed to a real car -- Civic Hybrid.
I'm a happy 22 Civic (non-turbo) owner, will surely buy Civic Hybrid as soon as the last wheel falls off my current Civic.
Presumably in 15 years or so.
Enjoy your NPC mobile devoid of personality, fun, and enjoyment.
I'm sure it will bring many bland days of point a to point b and hundreds of trips to the grocery store to pick up white fish and mild salsa.
@@tim3172 Oh, no, you misunderstood me.
I appreciate the concept of a toy car.
But once you sit in a traffic jam for two hours,
you kind-of think what's the point of you shifting between 1st and 2nd all along for hours.
I love the SI but it looks like they’ve done away with satellite radio and they still refused to put lower lumbar controls so it’s a no for me.
Honda forgot to paint over the primer.
Agree. I've never been a fan of "Wet Cement Gray"....
That lower grille reminds me of a BMW 5 series. The color on this model doesn't help either
"I think everyone should spend $300 to burn through tires to replace them with all-seasons."
Is this some kind of a joke?
Stop saying the price is under 30K. I have asked everywhere and they are asking around 40K to get this car out of the door.
Definitely prefer a Mazda 3 Turbo
Black wheels and black headliner trend 🤮
Be nice to see lighter color interior options even my 88 civic had red suede seats front and rear
Black interior with a light headliner looks cheap
Too expensive- Civic is no longer civic 😂
Or, perhaps, you’re the one who fell off
Though everything has crept up in price recently, I think the Si pricing increase has been relatively tame compared to many. I recall the 2014 started at $22,500, so this being still under 30 is pretty decent. Heck even a 2005 Si was like $19-20k..
@@FuncleChuck what do you mean? Keep paying these high prices man and I would enjoy my 10 year old car which is working fine
16:11 from second to fourth gear and from fourth gear to six gear! Really? DO THAT EVERY SINGLE DAY YOU’LL END UP WITH NEW TRANSMISSION!!!! (This is how you separate the vlogger to a license service tech!)