MARS HYDRO TS1000 | new 2022 model | Great budget light for beginners
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The 2022 MARS HYDRO TS1000 is a 150watt grow light designed for a 2ft x 2ft or 60cm x 60cm grow area.
It has a new white reflector and MARS HYDRO badged led driver.
The LEDs are 3000K and 5000K whites with 660nm deep reds and 730nm Far reds.
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I tested in the 2x2 at the recommended height of 16 inches or 40cm. The average PAR was 752umols which is a good performance level. The power consumed was 149.6 watts resulting in a system efficiency of 1.81 umols/watt or usable PPF per watt.
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Hey, your code MIGRO does not work anymore
hey thanks for your videos !!
. I received the new MS TS 1000 today and noticed that 2 red LEDs are just glowing. All other LEDs light up great and can also be dimmed... but with 2 red LEDs nothing happens...
They glow a little bit ,.. but do not get brighter ... Are they IR Led or are they defective? I haven't received an answer from MarsHydro yet ... I would be very happy if someone would answer this for me :) Greetings from Germany :)
8:04 So is that space there you are using to test the output the same size space you recommend for this light? If not then your test proves nothing as you are gaining from light reflection in that small test space.. You can fool some of the people some of the time.
I have a ts1000 for about two and a half years.. never had a problem but recently my driver started flashing and then it would just turn on out of the blue sometimes and turn off out of the blue sometimes depends the situation.. so they replaced my driver with a new a new one that has a dimmer switches and stuff all I had to do was pay for shipping which was $20 so I think that's pretty cool almost 3 years later they honor their warranty....
Shane you're a legend!
Thanks Shane! Very detailed review. We hope that every small change will lead to a better experience for growers!
I'm sure you paid a pretty penny to get a 10minute review 🤣
hi could you confirm, on the uk store its showing the 'baking tray' reflector.. is this just the old listing picture or should i wait until i see the updated version there? alternatively i could be blind af. thanks
@@JEBUS10069 Yeah, it's marketing done right. Well presented and worth that "pretty penny," imo. See the affiliate links in the description? Purchase a light through his link and he gets a kickback from the sale. It's probably not all that much. In the broader picture, it's a mutually beneficial deal. For instance, I liked this review enough to know that I justified placing this grow light on my Wish List at Amazon but if I can get just as good a deal or better through his link I will be glad to pay it forward for a well-done review.
Good review. I have already the new TSW2000, Mars Hydro are perfect growing lights. Thanks Shane, Im glad we have you. Take care
Have you tested the spectrum on the tsw2000?
Shane, thanks for your videos….
You are the guy that made me invest in LED for my chilli plants (yes that’s right people, we don’t all grow weed 😂).
Thanks for all your videos. I’ve watched most of them at least 2-3 times over the last year or so 👍
Thank you 🙏
Thanks for the reviews and great information as always.
Day 6 with my New MaxiSun LED thanks to Migro, time to get growing.
Thanks Shane! This was a great review and I especially liked how you did a quick unboxing and somewhat of a react to interior contents. You also seem happy today, I hope things are going your way in your life.
Excellent review, as per usual. Thanks Shane!
Just what I needed! Thank you, sir!
You Are the best reviewer on UA-cam, love your work, cheers
My favorite feature from MH lights is removing the driver to place it outside of the tent. Literally saves my temps from going too high since the only heat is coming from the light itself.
That would be nice
@@snapkrispies5324 it really is since I have two lights in my tentt
you should try migrolight aray 4 from Shane, 3 meters cable and driver where you want (Y)
im not sure something this small would matter.. def notice the difference in the larger setups right now tho.. those with the drivers outside are just surviving this heatwave whereas the onboard jobs are needing a little extra cooling it seems
I hate the Mars driver and cable management! I had a Mars TS2000 and the cables were so short i couldn't place the driver outside. It only has 1.5 or 2 meters cable length in total, but from the driver to the fixture is maybe 50cm only. In a tent 180cm high it's impossible to do it properly. And the 2 smaller cables that go from each side into the light fixture were also short and tight, i couldn't lower the light fixture less than half the tent. I spent hours trying to place the driver outside somehow but it was a pain in the a*s and i gave up.
Just get a Migro with a 3 meter cable, it has 1.5 meters of cable from each side of the driver so you can place it anywhere. And he also sells extension cords. With Migro you can place the driver in your neighbor's house and you'd still have freedom to move the fixture and extra cable.
Great information as usual. TY
I love you ! Ty for a lot of knowledge!!
Fantastic upgrade.
Thank you for always e keeping it professional the only thing I would ask is for some readings at the lower percentage to show us where it should be for all the stages of growth
Thank You for the test 💪🌱💯
Thank you for the great content
Nice review 👍
Thank you Shane!!
I got one 2 years back and it is still running great! The new white looks clean!
Yea that white is cool I got one last year and I love my light ... how many plants are you getting under ur 1000?
Hi Shane thanks for your videos. I have the 2022 model of the MarsHydro ts1000 you could try to do the test at a height of 30 centimeters or 12 inches which in my opinion is more correct as a height. Thank you
Was torn between viparspectra 1000 spider farm 1000 and this. But just ordered one of these now.
I'm really thinking about using these in a future-expandable array
i went in to this thinking "what minor upgrade will they have made in a feeble attempt to make me replace the ones i have?" but when i saw the white coating AND the power cord plugging in to the top instead of the side (one of my pet peeves is how that side plug always made it almost impossible to have it hang perfectly straight) in addition to all the onboard upgrades.. color me sold.
I bought 2 of the TS 3000s love the light but the new mars hydro drivers run very hot
@@davidhicks7738 even the ts 1000s i have run really hot, like so hot i dont feel safe having them in contact with panda film.
@@megaflux7144 yep exactly brother the moso driver runs sooo much cooler which I thought the mars hydro brand driver looked very similar to so was expecting good things but very disheartening the amount of heat even with fans on them and oversize exhaust in room, I think the meanwell or Moso would've been better option which I'll be switching over to when these ones surely burn out
LG is the parent company of Mars which is in a even larger parent company Shenzhen lighting corp.Which is like the size of a city. One of the largest corporations in the world. One of the main reasons why so many people think Mars makes Spider Farmer is for this reason. They’re in the same corporation but different divisions. Exactly like how Taco Bell and Kentucky Fried Chicken are different companies but owned by same parent company with Pepsi YUM! Corporation.,
horizontal integration
I just got my second sp3000 and it’s different now too.
Hey Thanks for the video! Do you know what type of Leds are used in this light?
how or would that clear coat (water protection)
I have a ts-1000 (couple yrs old now) in my 36 inch by 20 inch. and odes very well in it but could definitely use that dimmer.
Comment on the UV and IR spectrums/switches I see more and more these days? When to use, what power, etc.(auto or photo) - I bought the GroWealth G3000, with your discount, THX, but got no paperwork in the box. Were this added pre-400 and 700 plus switched spectrums worth it? I know you have a UVB? also. In a 3X3 room, it seems very powerful.
Excellent beginner light im pretty sure its still a MOSO driver they just white labeled for Marshydro. Love the new powder coated finish 👌
Thanks for the info!
great review ! Enjoyed the whole unboxing thing :]
Ala q7×the su
On Amazon they charging £150 for updated ts1000, i just got the same light on mars website with a discount for £115. I was hoping i could do 2-4 plants in 2gal pots in my 2.5x2.5x6 tent, looking at PAR chart seems only good enough for one plant that can be trained to fill grow space. My viparspectra p600 90w been giving me 2oz per auto, so hoping can get at least 4oz per auto with this light (single plant grow)🇬🇧✌️❤ awesome review Shane Thanks!
Best LED light for $90 👍
Hi Shane, been looking at your Migro Array 8 (500W) and it is not clear at all on your website about the driver. There are no specs on the driver or with this model, are there 2 or a single driver?… thanks…
I have 2 ts 1000s one is the older model and this new one your showing here. They are both running next to each other in my grow space (closet). I'm growing 2 plants 1 under each of the same strain. It seems the older model reflector more concentrates the light more towards the middle of the light as the new reflector is shorter in depth and allows light to escape out the sides more then the other. And also I couldn't figure out how to daisy chain the 2 together as the drivers are different. So far I'm happy with my results but not happy with the fact I can't tie them together.
what size is your grow space if i may ask? Im waiting for my mars hydro ts-1000 and 70x70x160 grow tent to arrive. I have my old TS-1000 and im wondering if i can fit them both into this tent.
Maybe you dont recogniced it but TS 1000 2022 had also far red LEDs
Not sure if that had a influence on PAR or effizency
Shane can you do the new version TS 3000 please????
would love to see a review on the Elite Compact Full Spectrum 200w
I wonder what would be better 2 ts1000s or 1 fc3000......Both equal 300 watts and about the same price.
Yey MIGRO can you test the German Light Caluma LED Force 75w or 150w please ? Keep up !
Hi guys, please help a newbie. How many tomato plants is recommended/most efficient for this particular light? Thanks
whats the best Led Grew Lamp for like 150 Euro ?
What is better, viparspectra p1000 or this light and why?
150w isn’t a lot of power for a 2x2, that’s like running 600w in a 4x4 which was like standard back in the day. 700 average par is about the best any budget light has done, *especially* at that hanging height. One thing a lot of companies miss the mark on is penetration, and so hitting those numbers at a decent distance is really just great.
Well, considering the standard 2by2 light these days is a 100watt quantum board I would have to say 150watts certainly "IS" a nice chunk of power for a 2by2. Sure, there are people shoving FC-3000s inside of a 2by2 and killing it lol! But, it's NOT the standard. And a light that size is certainly NOT made for a space that small. So as far as a "Standard" 2by2 light goes, I would say this light is absolutely packing punch for a 2by2. And YES I do personally own a TS-1000. It's the baking tin model, but pretty much the same thing only the new one runs a Mars driver instead of a Moso driver. And the reflector is White instead of aluminum/silver. It is absolutely a GREAT entry level light for someone growing in a 2by2 or a 2.5by2.5 is even GREAT. I know because my flowering space is a 2ftby2.5ft and it's does great. Would certainly recommend this light for new grower's. Like I say typical 1000 model lights for MOST companies are only 100watt boards where as the TS-1000 is a 150watt board. I also bout a 150watt Gro planner quantum board. However, that board was a pain and I sold it without ever even using it lol. Because of the fact that you had to have Wifi to be able to control anything to do with the light. Then shortly after I bout mine they made a new version where they skipped all the bullshit and just made it a simple external dimmer control and what not.
My Mars Hydro LED light started flickering due to wires in the main wire harness connector burning. The connector was very hot to the touch. After sending a lot of pictures and info to Mar Hydro (Janice), they stopped communicating. I am afraid to use it because I don't want to burn my house down! Where there customer support and warranty?
Hey Shane, maybe video about spider farmer se5000 vs viparspectra ks5000
So everything is the same as the 21 generation except the reflector?
Hi can u help me? Were i buy a filtercarbon of mars hydro???😢
Which îs the maximum high for the plants ????
for a budget light MH is hard to beat! We started out with a TSW2000 in a 4x4 n quickly realized...not enough light. Added a Geeklight Monsterboard Pro 480W side by side n ran like that. Often considered upgrading the Mars Hydro, but harvest after harvest it just bangs out big fat frosty colas so im keepin it in service. Just added a TSL 2000 in my 2x4 n thats a perfect fit for just over $200! Ya just can't beat it. Thnx for the spot on reviews Shane
nah today its very easy to beat to be honest. Lot happened over the last years. Theres just no reason for a light under 2.0 anymore. ANd still its better than 1,8 in reality.
good evening i took the ts 1000. at 100% the pffd card says 1349 yield at a distance of 30 cm.apply? do the led lights have ultraviolet radiation? does it harm humans? thanks.
do you think at 12 inches would be too much?
I got a question who bother me some time. So from a grow light to be very good ( if we dont consider price and efficency) we expect to put out around 1000 ppfd and good even spread. That would be for 40 DLI for photos. But what about autos? Is there any light which is designed for autos ? 40DLI in 18/6 would be ppfd reading 600 right? Or less if 20/4. I understand that there is dimmer for that purpose ofc :D But is in those manuals section for ppfd map what would be best for that purpose(autoflowers) ?
P.S sorry for my bad english
400 during first 10 days. 600 to day 35, after that most autos will flower, blast them. (not literally, train your auto for the high ppfd by increasing a few percent each day and start below 400 after germination)
See if you can get a fecida cr600 dude, they've got some uv leds, be interested to know you're thoughts on them. Cheap as chips too.
I tested one about a year ago and it was junk, I refused to review it....
@@MIGROLIGHT thanks man, tells me everything I need to know. I grabbed one as they were cheap and thought I'd take a punt. I'll still get use out of it over a low requirement palidarium.
How about testing this light with the driver detached I’m almost certainly improved efficiency due to heat reduction would be there we would love to see the numbers for sure
Hi Joshua,
Removing the driver will not effect the efficiency of the fixture, it will lower temps but that's it.
Thanks.
Hi Shane, what should be the right distance and dimming setting (expressed in power absorption becouse as you know the dimmer is not so linear) for an adult Autoflower in a 60x60? Seems I can’t find the right setting and always went overboard 🤦🏻♂️
Thx
about 80% or 90 watts in a 2x2 at 20 hour per day is about the max autos can absorb
@@MIGROLIGHT 90W at what distance? I need to cover wall to wall
Thx
Ps 145W x 80% is 115W, please clarify this point
Good morning
I have a MARS HYDRO REFLECTOR SERIES 22 (I actually have 2 of them inside a 2x4 tent)
I run them at 60% at 18 inches from canopy
I have 5 plants under it now
they seem to be doing well (they are 5 weeks old)
Anyone have any experience with these lights ? They are the new REFLECTOR SERIES lights from MH
thank you!
Hi Shane, i have a Question for you please,
What type of lights would work best in an area of 8mtrs x 5mtrs.
I have a room the above size and want to hang some grow lights for my plants. 8x5 mtrs is the total room size, I'm looking to have an area of approx 6mtrs long by 2mtrs wide. I would prefer to hang the lights from the roof rather than having a few standing lights.
Is there lights that would suit my purpose?
Thank you.
Mate, basically it's a 4 X 3 but twice. So get 2 X a light that'll suit a 4x3. Probably two lights
Your area is 6 x 2 = 12m2. If you are growing photos for an average PAR of 900µmols you need 330 watts per Sqm of high efficiency LEDs. Total required would be 330 x 12 = 3,960 watts of high efficiency LEDs. Select a light which you can subdivide your space into, for example 1m x 1m x 12 lights to fill the space. thanks , Shane
That is a big area no doubt. Of course Shane gets right to the point. How you choose to subdivide the area is a big part of it. There are not really individual lights that can cover a 2 meter square are so you will need more than 3 lights. For a 12 light solution where each one would cover 1m square a low cost light might be the PHLIZON Pro-series PH-X6. It is 360w which is about the right power for a square meter and the lights in the US are $279. Another alternative that is higher end would be an array of the Grow Light Science Grow 320 or Grow 300. (Migro carries these) It would also be a 4x3 array since they are a long and narrow light so instead of a 2x6, Three wide the narrow way and 4 long the long way to cover 6m length. (they are ~ 1.2 meters long).
...but still stays on when linked to a timer I bet !
Can you please make a review video on the “fecida 1000w LED grow light”, please?
Hi,
They haven't contacted us regarding testing.
Thanks.
I don’t know about the Mars hydro driver… meanwell is hard to outperform.
i got 2 from 2020-2021 they also have infrared and other kinds I think so
There are 2 x 730nm Far red LEDs, not much output. The white LEDs emit about 3% Far Red anyway so there is not much benefit to adding 730s
I was told by ma's hydro that you have 5 years you can trade in your driver and get a new one replacement and just pay for shipping
Nice. It's a shame your earlier test on this was on a 2.5 x 2.5 footprint as it means the PAR ratings can't be directly compared. Still, the wattage is up and it _seems_ to be delivering more bang for the buck.
I do hope you review the new 2022 version of the TSL2000 -- which is Mars' entry level light for the 2x4 space. While not at the level of the SP3000, it's a pretty nice beginner light at a very low price.
I know right? He used to get the centre reading to 1000par on all the tests he did but now that's not done apparently? The whole point of setting parameters for the tests was to directly compare lights but it's getting harder and harder to do, even within migros own tests
I'm looking at the Mar Hydro ts1000 or AC Infinity T22 to replace my blurple light. Does anyone know the difference between the Mars Hydro 3x3 and the 3.1x3.1?
For a 3x3 try our ARAY 3, link here: migrolight.com/collections/all/products/migro-aray-3-270w#
here is a dumb question: I made a high powered Cri cob light but the cable to the driver is to short. anyone know what adapters i need to extened the power cable?
Just use wagos
When I extended I used a similar ip rated connection as these companies use.
They sell them in screwfix for things like pumps for garden ponds. Waterproof.
Would this light be good for a 32x32x60?
doubt it will fit in. I have old TS-1000 and the reflector is 33x38, i would imagine this one is about same size.
so... is better or not?
Hi I have this light in a 70x70, is it worth upgrading to an Aray 3?
Hi, No it would be too much. For Photos you should have about 160 watts and for Autos about 125 watts.
WE LOVE MARS HYDRO,,,,,,👍 IVE JUST GOT THE FCE 3000 UPGRADED FROM TSW2000.... QUALITY LIGHTS...👍👍
Is it Waterproof?
for the growth phase it's okay for flowering it's not too good
well, its 150w so rated for 2 autos max by most breeders, lst them and you will need 2.
All mars hydro lights come with a very very short 1 year warranty which means they do not stand behind long term use of their lights while the industry standard is 3-5 years. find lights with more than year warranty protect your money and your investment.
I see alot of pro level growers on youtube using what are referred to as "beginner" lights. In growing, is "beginner" defined as 'small tent non-commercial grower'? If the light works well wouldn't it perform for the pro the same as the "beginner"? Or are you saying the pros aren't capable of getting the same performance out of it as a noob could?
For my set up i much prefer the mars hydro lights. potentiometer dimming is so much better. The migro is either too weak or too strong at my height
this guy needs to take a drink too
How does this compare to the aray 2?
Hi,
The Mars has 1.81 PPFD/WATT and the ARAY 2 has 2.38 PPFD/WATT so quite a big difference in output/efficiency
Thanks.
What about Sansi light? Anybody use them?
Lols I don’t think I can get rid of my baking pan led light
I have the older model purchased in 2019 or 2020.
Should I keep my old lights or upgrade?
If you are pleased with your harvest then why change it?
@@yoshy2628 I'm more concerned with energy costs and efficiency.
@@Larrye123 It will consume exactly same. Light output could be slightly different but not in meaningful way.
Mh funked up big time should have kept going with the lights from 2018. The new light MIGHT be able to produce faster grow but its a bulimic grow thin plants that can't produce big heavy dense flowers. The company needs to do a uteru and go back. I hope they pull it back in 2023
I have 120cm x 120cm tent, this light won't be able to cover the whole foot print, right. Nor would two but four would - which is freaking investment to a broke man as I am 😬
TS-1000 max Coverage:80x80cm,120x120 tent Recommended TSW-2000❤
My TSL-2000 started having serious problems not THREE MONTHS into use. Half of the board would start flickering or not turn on. Hounded Mars Hydro for months on a replacement because it was still under warranty and they refused to do absolutely anything about their garbage product. No repair, no exchange even though it was still under warranty, and I had to literally harass them with multiple emails to even finally get a replacement driver that I had to figure out how to wire up on my own, and then it STILL didn't work. Half the light just doesn't come on. Mars Hydro is pure garbage.
That suck dude.
That sucks to hear. If its still not right have you checked the solder points where the wires go to that board. When theres a bad connection that spot can get hot and with the heat the solder can pop out altogether. Might just need the 2 contacts redoing because flickering can be a sign of high resistance in the circuit from a poor contact point.
Not ideal having to take it apart and DIY it but could potentially revive it
Yea because how can you ever think a company that makes tents all of the sudden become an efficient tech brand. Look at the power supply. U will make ur money back by saving on power in 2 years if u purchased quality.
I'm going through the same thing with mars-hydro now
Why would you test at 40cm hanging height when MH recommends 30cm? kinda sus
We test to the manufacturers recommendations. We ask them up front for the hanging height they want us to use for the test, thanks, Shane
Nice but she's no Aray 2
You say it's quite a bit of light for a 2x2 tent so a 4x4 would be good 👍
The thing that annoys me about led grow lights like this is it only covers a 2 foot by 2 foot area ,u can't grow much in a 2 by 2 space .On the old hps lights ,u get 6 -7 foot coverage of space ,every time u hang a light & it only costs a couple hundred bucks
and you get an energy bill thats eating you alive.
Or you could get 2 LED lights and cover that area
@@tarkitarker0815 no
@@AS_EDITOR24 yes
@@tarkitarker0815 no
Low efficiency for a 2022 light. For the same price you can get a Kingbrite water resistant 120w light with Meanwell driver and Samsung Lm301H diodes. Both Mars Hydro and Spider Farmer are cutting costs, lowering their quality but not their prices.
Idk I was looking around for a friend recently and the cheapest 100W I could find was £110, 2 of those would have been £220 But Mars Hydro had a sale on them and my mate got 4 of their 100W ones for I think £230
@@evzevz06 Yes the T600 is very cheaply built with it's no name diodes and lack of a proper driver. I have a cheap light like that from spider farmer just to raise small seedlings, for the bigger plants I use proper growlights
Please anyone considering mars hydro please read reviews and do due diligence. Customer service matters, spend your money smart. I learned a $400 lesson with the ts3000, if it fails they won't care.
Why you allways fishy man do the right review at 12 inch not 14 you allways hustling something same with grow 300 let us see numbers on lightmeter
I woild much rather deal with viperspectra. Mars hydro customer service is horrible.
dude its obvious you hate Mars. Why dont you hang it lower? Its got 800 in the middle, dont you always say you calibrate with a hanging hight that delivers 1000 in the middle? Looking at that perfect spread you could have easily hang it lower. What you did last time, by the way. Last time you gave it 12 inch whih resultet in 1.96. Doesnt matter what the company says, youre supposed to make the best out of the light. YOur own lights are hanging freakin 6-8 inch over the canopy. Just saying. YOu make it look like the new model is 10% less efficient than the last one which isnt true.
Would this light be ok for a 1 meter square space and two plants,thanks love your videos
No. Too small. Try and ARAY 3
i know I'm done with hlg and mars both junk.
U tested the spider farmer sf1000 30cm away. Mmmmh. Please all the same distance