Designing a small project can take an hour or two. A medium one can occupy you for days. So taking only 10 minutes into account for the decision which tool to use can later bite you in the back:) But i understand it. All the different features of the design packages aren't easy to comprehend. And one has to start somewhere. So, thanks for the video, showing off whats important for you in PCB-Design Software:)
I started on Fritzing and I think that was my mistake, I got used to it and then couldn't get out of my comfort zone. But I was limited by its library of components and lack of complexity as I grew. But I was lost with a lot of others and had limited success with easyEda. Thanks for showing me this I seem to be having good luck with DesignSpark and even imported a design to JLCPCB without any issue. Thanks again...
Are you reading my script!? I've used many PCB design over the years, now I can't be bothered with them. You sum up my attitude today, try for 10 mins, see how far I get, see if it crashes or does stupid stuff then reject. That EasyEDA mangled schematic piks when rotated. Reject. The more I need to read the manual the less I'll stay. I have to be able to see on screen what I need to do and make it happen quick. I did try Design Spark maybe 8 years ago, was a pain. Some design softaware tend to lock the design into one PCB supplier, or there's usually some trick that only reveals itself after doing a design. I just want a gerber to send off :)
I prefer DipTrace - it is free for up to 300 pins/2 layers, very intuitive, automatically makes PCB from schematics by few simple steps. It has a 3D viewer as well and a significant library that could be supplemented.
+1 for DesignSpark PCB. I've tried everything. I like Kicad too but always return to DS PCB. It's a very shallow learning curve to have a homemade pcb in your hands quickly. Once you have the basics learning the more advanced stuff comes quite quickly and naturally. Importing component models or creating your own is a breeze. The killer feature of DS for me is being able to set your own system or relative origins to place items exactly relative to each other or relative to a manually inserted origin. Kicad is wretched in this regard. DS Mechanical is prob the best free 3d modeller in its own right and complements DS PCB beautifully. I think that DS PCB also has the best BOM creator as you can add value fields for other suppliers/order nos so you aren't strictly tied to ordering solely from RS. I dunno why so many diyers plod along with Eagle, which is a nightmare in comparison.
Hi! Yes, for designing PCBs, this software is really brilliant! You can use it for schematics too, but for schematics, it's not quite there. Incidentally, the best 3D modelling software I've ever used is also written by/for RS, this same company!
I've been using the partner site of EasyEDA, jlcpcb.com, which are surprisingly quick to deliver to the UK and cheap. Do you know if there are alternatives that don't cost the earth?
Dave Barnes hi, there are alternatives, I get a number of companies email me on a regular basis, but the one I'm most attracted to is jlcpcb. I've used them for my latest project.
I see, at the end you are inviting comments. 1. Why are there traces on the component side and none on the solder side? 2. In the new design box, were you able to enter a New Design Name into the long box because when I tried to I could not! I could not see the reason for the New Design Name section of this dialog box.
I prefer EasyEDA as it's easy to work with. It does have a decent learning curve for someone who has not done any pcb design at all before. Took me about a week to get pretty decent at it. The other thing about EasyEDA is you can order your pcb directly from them, and it goes through JLCPCB. I had my boards in 2 weeks. The other nice thing about EasyEDA is it's all online. So you can work on the project from anywhere, or have others collaborate on a project. After awhile, the menu system becomes very intuitive to use.
Korishan Ahh cool! I suppose people have preferences. At the point when I created this, I had no experience whatsoever, but gave each software 10 minutes of my time. With EasyEDA, I found myself stumbling around it and got nowhere within 10 minutes. I could see its features, but I thought it had an unrefined and constricted feel to it. Ahh I know that pcb company too. They email me all the time lol. I suppose we look for different things in software and people learn differently. For me, DesignSpark was amazing, it works exactly how my brain envisions pcb software to work. I could use it out of the box with no experience and this demonstration is literally me after 10 minutes of practice!!!
Another kewl feature of EasyEDA is they have a quick question/answer response on the forums, from the EasyEDA team. I had questions when I was first starting out, posted the question, and I had an answer from a rep within an hour and helped over the following few days till I got it worked out. So, that portion I really liked since I didn't have to pay for anything :)
I have been trying with 4 different video to get thru easyeda and have made little progress. Where are the components? I can't find my ATtiny85. It's basic, no? I think they have centered this package around selling their parts. thumbs down. I've used fritzing for several years, like it, but think I'm gonna give this DesignSpark a go. My first circuit for PCB is very easy.
I just noticed you have your tracks on the wrong copper layer (red is top copper, where your components are) . Your tracks should be blue showing they're on the bottom copper. But you know that already lol.
Well, that was a couple of hours of my life I wish I could get back! On your say-so I downloaded the latest Designspark PCB 9.0, and my experience was totally the opposite. Ok I thought, let's build a schematic for an STM32F103 project.. uh... where are the microcontrollers? Cue an hour spent finding out about features that don't exist any more, and the most cumbersome system in the known universe for adding components. Absolutely, if your circuit will only have resistors in it then do give DesignSpark PCB a try. The experience made me try EasyEDA despite sharing your distaste for cloud solutions, and EasyEDA in fact lived up to its name. I just don't see how anyone could possible think that DesignSpark was better.
Fritzing a waste of time i have 29" screen can't see any of the items to add have to guess what it is until you wait for it load to show what your mouse is on
Ray "I give it 3rd place"... It's present indicative tense. "I think it's good" - present tense also. I could have also said "I'm giving it" - present continuous tense. "For your good work, I award you with this medal"... It's fine to say that. :D
Designing a small project can take an hour or two. A medium one can occupy you for days. So taking only 10 minutes into account for the decision which tool to use can later bite you in the back:)
But i understand it. All the different features of the design packages aren't easy to comprehend. And one has to start somewhere.
So, thanks for the video, showing off whats important for you in PCB-Design Software:)
I started on Fritzing and I think that was my mistake, I got used to it and then couldn't get out of my comfort zone. But I was limited by its library of components and lack of complexity as I grew. But I was lost with a lot of others and had limited success with easyEda. Thanks for showing me this I seem to be having good luck with DesignSpark and even imported a design to JLCPCB without any issue. Thanks again...
lol same here. I can't use some custom parts in fritzing.
Thanks for the Research, I have Downloaded DS, and plan to create my first PCB shortly, 73's
I really enjoyed the video. Thanks for sharing. Ah! Keep it up! You're doing well and I'm sure most people enjoy your work.
Thanks for the nice comment. :)
Many thanks. You're helping drain this swamp.
Thank you ,Antony
but is it the way of making Pcb in the factories?
Are you reading my script!? I've used many PCB design over the years, now I can't be bothered with them. You sum up my attitude today, try for 10 mins, see how far I get, see if it crashes or does stupid stuff then reject. That EasyEDA mangled schematic piks when rotated. Reject. The more I need to read the manual the less I'll stay. I have to be able to see on screen what I need to do and make it happen quick. I did try Design Spark maybe 8 years ago, was a pain. Some design softaware tend to lock the design into one PCB supplier, or there's usually some trick that only reveals itself after doing a design. I just want a gerber to send off :)
I prefer DipTrace - it is free for up to 300 pins/2 layers, very intuitive, automatically makes PCB from schematics by few simple steps. It has a 3D viewer as well and a significant library that could be supplemented.
Thank you very much for your help
+1 for DesignSpark PCB. I've tried everything. I like Kicad too but always return to DS PCB. It's a very shallow learning curve to have a homemade pcb in your hands quickly. Once you have the basics learning the more advanced stuff comes quite quickly and naturally. Importing component models or creating your own is a breeze. The killer feature of DS for me is being able to set your own system or relative origins to place items exactly relative to each other or relative to a manually inserted origin. Kicad is wretched in this regard. DS Mechanical is prob the best free 3d modeller in its own right and complements DS PCB beautifully. I think that DS PCB also has the best BOM creator as you can add value fields for other suppliers/order nos so you aren't strictly tied to ordering solely from RS. I dunno why so many diyers plod along with Eagle, which is a nightmare in comparison.
I agree! DS is amazing!
Looks cool does it have a circuit in action feature
Fine software, used it for several years. Now needed more advanced, so using KICAD, top free software around.
I tried to use DS. Dropped it in 2mins. I love kicad.
Who has the biggest library?
Does Spark Design have a decent library available?
have you looked at something called "Kicad"? easyeda could not figure it out also i really liked your example simple!
What about..
Altium designer....?
Proteus.....?
Is there any comparison?
How could you throw out eaglepcb? Maybe you didn't see it.
Nice video duck ;) I've been using EasyEDA but I'm intrigued by the RS program. Fingers crossed there's a Linux version.
Hi! Yes, for designing PCBs, this software is really brilliant! You can use it for schematics too, but for schematics, it's not quite there. Incidentally, the best 3D modelling software I've ever used is also written by/for RS, this same company!
I've been using the partner site of EasyEDA, jlcpcb.com, which are surprisingly quick to deliver to the UK and cheap. Do you know if there are alternatives that don't cost the earth?
Dave Barnes hi, there are alternatives, I get a number of companies email me on a regular basis, but the one I'm most attracted to is jlcpcb. I've used them for my latest project.
result ?
Cheers I've been looking for some decent software
I prefer Easyeda, because it helps to prototype fast, with an integrated part library and datasheet which help build schematic and PCB in a second
I see, at the end you are inviting comments.
1. Why are there traces on the component side and none on the solder side?
2. In the new design box, were you able to enter a New Design Name into the long box because when I tried to I could not! I could not see the reason for the New Design Name section of this dialog box.
I prefer EasyEDA as it's easy to work with. It does have a decent learning curve for someone who has not done any pcb design at all before. Took me about a week to get pretty decent at it.
The other thing about EasyEDA is you can order your pcb directly from them, and it goes through JLCPCB. I had my boards in 2 weeks.
The other nice thing about EasyEDA is it's all online. So you can work on the project from anywhere, or have others collaborate on a project. After awhile, the menu system becomes very intuitive to use.
Korishan Ahh cool! I suppose people have preferences. At the point when I created this, I had no experience whatsoever, but gave each software 10 minutes of my time. With EasyEDA, I found myself stumbling around it and got nowhere within 10 minutes. I could see its features, but I thought it had an unrefined and constricted feel to it. Ahh I know that pcb company too. They email me all the time lol. I suppose we look for different things in software and people learn differently. For me, DesignSpark was amazing, it works exactly how my brain envisions pcb software to work. I could use it out of the box with no experience and this demonstration is literally me after 10 minutes of practice!!!
Another kewl feature of EasyEDA is they have a quick question/answer response on the forums, from the EasyEDA team. I had questions when I was first starting out, posted the question, and I had an answer from a rep within an hour and helped over the following few days till I got it worked out. So, that portion I really liked since I didn't have to pay for anything :)
Korishan Yeah... I've not used design spark support, so I wouldn't know. But aslong as you are using the best for you, that's all that matters! :)
lol the funniest software investigation I've ever come across.
I have been trying with 4 different video to get thru easyeda and have made little progress. Where are the components? I can't find my ATtiny85. It's basic, no? I think they have centered this package around selling their parts. thumbs down. I've used fritzing for several years, like it, but think I'm gonna give this DesignSpark a go. My first circuit for PCB is very easy.
If u can't find a specific ic, just add an ic socket.
Hello again.
About the ATtiny u mensioned.. isnit a MP3 decoder?
I need the schematics of a MP3 decoder. 👍😆
arsacd@gmail.com
I just noticed you have your tracks on the wrong copper layer (red is top copper, where your components are) . Your tracks should be blue showing they're on the bottom copper. But you know that already lol.
Yeah! Sort that out as and when! Ha!
I like easyeda
on Fritzing you dont need to make/create anything it all gets add automatically to me Fritzing is the best no doubt about it .
I'm so sick of it at this stage. Limited parts libaries, no keyboard shortcuts, can't select multiple traces to send to back of board... GRrrrrr
Oh, and not being able to edit via sizes other than my multiples of whole numbers has to be one of the most infurating things ever.
Looks good. downloaded but can't register so forgetting it.
leslie saunders that's weird! It took me about 1 minute to register and it was done!
Keeps saying username email in use but i've tried a couple and no joy, so don't know what's up
leslie saunders Well, that's unfortunate... :/
Sorted it out. Registered through main page all went through.BTW have you considered trying out a Nextion display for an arduino project?
leslie saunders I'll have to look into nextion.
You didn't explain exactly what was the issue with easyEDA that is what I am presently using
PCB Artist is exactly identical to Designspark with limitations like 3D view missing and library not well populated in my opinion...
Well, that was a couple of hours of my life I wish I could get back! On your say-so I downloaded the latest Designspark PCB 9.0, and my experience was totally the opposite. Ok I thought, let's build a schematic for an STM32F103 project.. uh... where are the microcontrollers? Cue an hour spent finding out about features that don't exist any more, and the most cumbersome system in the known universe for adding components. Absolutely, if your circuit will only have resistors in it then do give DesignSpark PCB a try. The experience made me try EasyEDA despite sharing your distaste for cloud solutions, and EasyEDA in fact lived up to its name. I just don't see how anyone could possible think that DesignSpark was better.
Have s look st Altium Vircuitmaker
rupert handford I tried that one before making this video. The problem was that I found it's library system very limited.
dose it do smd
Yes. It has SMD footprints and you can import them as well from a library.
Most EDA programs have a 3D view
Sir i want pcb designer software so please sand this software
Those of us that use Linux are out of luck with DesignSpark
That's is slow this basic components have a widget already in easyEDA and i really advice that to many people it is pure choose and drop
the only good thing about design spark is the RS library
Hm...after only 20 minutes u say...
Yeah it's a shame that you can't save or edit paper LOL
Well I like easyeda better
Fritzing a waste of time i have 29" screen can't see any of the items to add have to guess what it is until you wait for it load to show what your mouse is on
Haha!
IT ONLY WORKS FOR WINDOWS! i use Linux! windows is a waste of time.
This software sucks,, Reason being you can't down load it and use it without being on the internet!
You put 2 resistors on a board?! You easily impress-yourself. Thanks for wasting 15 minutes of my life.
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Poor quality Video
you GAVE them not GIVE them learn how to speak properly!
Ray "I give it 3rd place"... It's present indicative tense. "I think it's good" - present tense also. I could have also said "I'm giving it" - present continuous tense. "For your good work, I award you with this medal"... It's fine to say that. :D