Smoke testing for codes P0171 P0174

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  • @synthvault
    @synthvault 11 років тому +5

    The greatest mechanic/educator ever to post in UA-cam. Over the last few years you have elevated my mechanical knowledge tenfold. Thank you!

  • @bessieflood3550
    @bessieflood3550 9 років тому +2

    Thank you for this information I have a 2000 buirk .And the man said that I have a leak and they were going to do a smoke and this film helps me to understand what he was talking about .Thank you .

  • @robertdavis6708
    @robertdavis6708 11 років тому +1

    I wish I had you as an instructor earlier in life. Man you know your stuff. The 2000 Focus PVC hose was my problem. Fixed it in 10 minutes and the car runs like new. Once again Sir, thank you for the Videos.

  • @ironman6669able
    @ironman6669able 12 років тому +1

    wow your videos are the only ones i refer too, your like a encyclopedia of the auto-mechanic answers, keep up the good work, i just bought a tool from your link, i remember you saying it helps you continue to keep making these videos, so i'll be ordering alot more for sure/ plus you already show us how to use them keep up the great videos dwayne

  • @marcbee1234
    @marcbee1234 12 років тому +4

    You never explained how an intake leak into the passenger side bank also throws a code in the drivers side bank? Please let us know.

  • @izzycamaro
    @izzycamaro 5 років тому +2

    Thank you for the nice video, I always enjoy the way explains the repairs. have a great day.

  • @voltron979
    @voltron979 8 років тому +5

    That was awesome sir..!!!
    You are really a good tech.
    Props to you boss.

  • @juansolis9409
    @juansolis9409 7 років тому +5

    i can tell that my old man knows what he is doing.

  • @user-ho5vz5tg3r
    @user-ho5vz5tg3r 2 роки тому

    Amen Brother!
    Mine is doing some weird stuff with 171, 174 with occasional 300...
    Thank you for teaching me this.

  • @GMZee559
    @GMZee559 9 років тому +3

    Awesome video! I don't have a smoke machine but I have a friend that is a Smoke Machine

  • @rmzstudio8229
    @rmzstudio8229 28 днів тому

    I just changed the valve cover gaskets and all intake and plenum metal gaskets and upon torquing everything to spec following the bolt tightening sequence in the manual, I’m now getting a p0171 and p0170 on my 2002 Honda Odyssey. I’ve visually inspected all hoses and taken it all apart 3 times already and still can’t find the source of the leak. All 6 injectors are also new and OEM. I’m stumped

  • @redclift30
    @redclift30 11 років тому +2

    If you looked at the fuel trim at idle, you would see Positive numbers but, if you raised the RPM, they would drop due to the vac dropping. This points to a vac leak.

  • @Diesel1Dee
    @Diesel1Dee 13 років тому +1

    you can use propane or carb cleaner ( carb cleaner is less safe since it coats surfaces and could ignite) however you just spray alittle around area's that could be pulling in outside air (intake area's, vaccum lines, etc) until the engine revs.. once you get it reving from spraying in one spot off and on you know where your leak is. i think "realfixesrealfast" have a video on using propane to find a leak. Also "Ericthecarguy"channel has one as well on how to use carb cleaner method. cheers

  • @remguiller7593
    @remguiller7593 8 років тому +3

    thank you sir for your video,its a big help to person that they need to fix by herself,im appreciate it.your a very good technician,,

  • @jaimemelero3063
    @jaimemelero3063 Рік тому

    thankyou very much for that information, have a ford Windstar with those recurring codes ....

  • @eddyzavala9781
    @eddyzavala9781 5 років тому

    Excellent video great details, great results. This did not save me money but it made me money!! Thank you!

  • @alb12345672
    @alb12345672 11 років тому +2

    Sometimes leaks open up when the engine is hot or cold.

  • @binnsh
    @binnsh 13 років тому +1

    Nice video, you work methodically. Please don't forget us shade tree guys, who probably won't have that fancy smoke machine. How would a spray can of carb cleaner worked?

  • @shawn13mertle13
    @shawn13mertle13 4 роки тому

    Also need to do a fuel volume test before writing off fuel delivery.Most techs know right away when both banks are lean it is a air mass sensor or a vacuum leak that services both banks.When a car lopes at idle or runs poorly at idle it is most often a vac leak.Your vacuum is highest at idle.That sucks in more air than in running conditions.Any tech that goes after fuel delivery first in that situation is scamming the customer or warranty.I do like the smoke machine for diagnostic more than the method we used.

  • @INeverWanted2010
    @INeverWanted2010 6 років тому +2

    Man I need one of those machines so badly lol I've been dealing with a P0171 for 3 months

    • @capman911
      @capman911 4 роки тому

      I don't know if you got your problem fixed but mine turned out to be a brake booster the had a hole in the diaphragm.

  • @Mutleytech
    @Mutleytech 13 років тому

    The new lower intake gaskets are green from GM. Have not seen aftermarket yet. Those old ones had some miles. Fuel trim would have pointed to this too.

  • @pcmentor29
    @pcmentor29 11 років тому

    Thanks this is a big help and gives me confidence on testing my Ford Ranger 4.0

  • @RussellBooth1977
    @RussellBooth1977 4 роки тому

    I got a P0171 code in my Chevrolet 5.7 LS1 V8 powered Holden Commodore last week but I didn't have a smoke machine to diagnose this,the O ring on the fuel filler cap had a split in it,it was only noticeable when the car sat for a few minutes then the engine was restarted at a service station for example - a fault code or codes would be set, previously,I also got a P0174 code as well.
    So I checked the obvious things first,note the fuel tank wasn't holding vacuum,note Holden didn't fit a fuel tank pressure sensor so the P0442 code is irrelevant in my car.
    I would consider making my own smoke machine but the obvious things such as the MAF sensor clamps coming loose have caused a P0102,P0171 & a P0174 code in the past !

    • @realfixesrealfast
      @realfixesrealfast  4 роки тому +1

      quick thought here, it should hold pressure when powered and/or commanded on. Check the vent valve, may be stuck open and causing it NOT to hold pressure

    • @RussellBooth1977
      @RussellBooth1977 4 роки тому

      The tank should be under a vacuum which it is,when I fitted the new fuel filler cap,I noticed a drop in idle speed for a few seconds then the idle speed stabilized at its normal idle speed so that tells me that the EVAP system is functioning correctly when the engine is running !

  • @doodoobutter4406
    @doodoobutter4406 6 років тому

    awesome video! helps me understand whats really goin on with my p0170 p0173 in my 3000gt

  • @Mcdashiznit
    @Mcdashiznit 10 років тому

    Great video I had the exact same prob, no brainer intake on 87% 01-03 old style gaskets thanks

  • @adamra187
    @adamra187 11 років тому

    Another note some might only open under pressure if it's a turbo vehicle boost leak testing as well as smoking should be done.

  • @benjaminlittle7916
    @benjaminlittle7916 6 років тому +1

    and yet another new toy I want but don't have the money for, lol. thanks

  • @TomKuegler
    @TomKuegler 8 років тому

    very good video thank you I'm going to try that on my LS7 with aftermarket lsxr 102 intake that must not be seeling well to the heads

  • @roysandoval8230
    @roysandoval8230 5 років тому

    1997 F-150 was getting po171, lean 1 bank, under the hood I found a pvc hose had came off, also clean MAF sensor with maf spray cleaner...cleared code at auto part store...lite never has came back since...

    • @realfixesrealfast
      @realfixesrealfast  5 років тому

      that system may take a couple "trips" for the monitor to recognize a real fault from a intermittent fault. Drive it for a few days and if it doesn't come back on, then it's most likely fixed.

    • @roysandoval8230
      @roysandoval8230 5 років тому

      realfixesrealfast Thank you very much..

  • @sageejumanjee
    @sageejumanjee 10 років тому +1

    your videos are the best,thank you.

  • @wiredawg
    @wiredawg 12 років тому

    Very nice, description and analysis.

  • @rodrigoelgu
    @rodrigoelgu 13 років тому

    great i wish i could one day be as good as you guys thanks for ur videos...

  • @rudysmachado5747
    @rudysmachado5747 2 роки тому

    Great vid!👍🏼I hav po171 on my 2008 pont vibe and car has No symptoms - purrs. I’ve chkd maf sensor and intake valve gaskets. Gonna try and chk fuel pressure as everything else looks good. Also, it predominantly happens in cold weather - any suggestions??😣
    Thx

  • @philpotter4620
    @philpotter4620 Рік тому

    Why is it that you didn't close off exhaust pipe ? My logic says the open valves would let smoke out the exhaust system ?

  • @MohammadKhan-be7zt
    @MohammadKhan-be7zt 2 роки тому

    Very helpful video thanks

  • @alirazmjou2149
    @alirazmjou2149 3 роки тому

    درود بر شما متشکرم اقا

  • @bugatube22
    @bugatube22 10 років тому +2

    Was the gasket leaking on both banks as DTC po171 & po174 reports?? Vid shows only one gasket / bank leaking smoke. If only one side, then why did both banks get reported?

    • @JoeTheAutoGuy
      @JoeTheAutoGuy 9 років тому +3

      with one bank running lean the system o2s and trys to rich the mixture causing an imbalance in the engine so if left long enough the computer will try to compensate for both banks it (the ecm tune) only being allowed to add so much extra fuel will set both DTCs also the intake can change as it heats up causing the other bank to lean out too as it expands

  • @SEXYTECH1000
    @SEXYTECH1000 12 років тому +1

    @TheSilverboy2011 CHECK FOR A LEAKING FUEL PRESSURE REGULATOR OR A GROUNDED FUEL INJECTOR CIRCUIT,,,,,

  • @kruno45
    @kruno45 12 років тому

    good idea to do those knock sensors while in there.

  • @crmick07
    @crmick07 7 років тому +1

    AMAZING MAN! Thank you for your information

  • @MrClockRocket
    @MrClockRocket 3 роки тому

    Why not check the fuel trim? Most obd2 scanners will tell you pretty quickly if it’s a fuel delivery issue or a vacuum leak.

  • @josephbarrerareyes
    @josephbarrerareyes Рік тому

    Very good 👌

  • @danielgarage5276
    @danielgarage5276 3 місяці тому

    Does this suggest if I'm only getting p0174 my issue is isolated to bank 2? Bad fuel pump or intake gasket would would throw both bank codes?

  • @TRcustomengineering
    @TRcustomengineering 13 років тому

    Well done!
    Where can i buy one of these smokers?
    Can you also do cooling systems with this?
    Thanks
    -Tim

  • @brianc1050
    @brianc1050 9 років тому

    great video! I have a 2002 vw jetta turbo, and took it to goodyear and they mention I need to replace a "Hose to Snorkel" what is that? they said i have to get it from the dealer. or were this part located at... the code coming up is P0171 Lean Bank 1

  • @RJC3po
    @RJC3po 13 років тому

    Does your smoke machine use shop air as the supply or does it require an external Nitrogen bottle?

  • @brokenstemcell
    @brokenstemcell 11 років тому

    I was watching a video and saw this post. Im not a certified mechanic or anything (just a guy thats owned and worked on a lot of different cars) but I'd think it was your water pump or possibly a stuck thermostat..Hopefully you've found the solution already, now that I seee this was a month ago

  • @gregedwards3214
    @gregedwards3214 8 років тому

    great video and very helpful..thanks

  • @roltyd22
    @roltyd22 3 роки тому

    Will that make it throw codes on one bank and not the other? Im getting po300 code and crappy idle at cold starts also not functioning solenoid vent valve on my 03 Tahoe,oh also bank 1 sensor 1 low voltage and heat codes

  • @mckoylach1622
    @mckoylach1622 4 роки тому

    I have a P0174 on my 02 Lexus RX300 . If it’s a low fuel pressure,it should be both banks,right ? When I drive,it runs very good. But at idle, it shakes a little bit. That indicates a vacuum leak,right ? Thanks

  • @tonygonzalez7029
    @tonygonzalez7029 6 років тому

    Great work...I just installed my knock sensors and intake gasket and now have a 171..im thinking..it's the gasket...

    • @mikesuman5633
      @mikesuman5633 6 років тому

      Me too. Let me know if it was the gasget

  • @nowayjose20
    @nowayjose20 13 років тому

    5:37 "So, all the evidence is LETTUCE to the problem." Hahaha.

  • @sivucit
    @sivucit 12 років тому

    hi, when u do smoke test, I assume some of the cylinder will be in intake or exhaust stroke even if we had first cylinder in TDC, this means i will always find smoke coming out in exhaust or in throttelbody , is my understanding correct. I know you have sealed breather house but have not exhaust side, can u please advise if i have misunderstood something

  • @rposyton
    @rposyton 9 років тому

    Great video!! Very helpful. Thanks!!

  • @jsnyara
    @jsnyara 13 років тому

    very informative. iv'e never even heard of smoke testing. thanks for the info

  • @dtlastraightahead2133
    @dtlastraightahead2133 4 роки тому

    used a fogger smoke coming out of Idle air control valve changed it smoke still coming out but not as much is any smoke coming out normal?

  • @WV591
    @WV591 2 роки тому

    Good one. TU

  • @rrmech11
    @rrmech11 11 років тому +1

    Why didn't you check fuel trims at idle and part throttle

  • @jay.0621
    @jay.0621 11 років тому

    Very informative video,thanks for sharing.Just curious,what would something like that cost with parts and labour?

  • @redclift30
    @redclift30 11 років тому

    check fuel injectors/ or vac leak on that side. False Air via leaking exhaust

  • @bhstone1
    @bhstone1 13 років тому

    Great video. Is it possible rent one of these machines?

  • @moofushu
    @moofushu 13 років тому

    Is it normal for the intake gasket to ware out like that or is it a symptom of some other part failing causing the engine to run hotter?

  • @dmorley100
    @dmorley100 13 років тому

    Man I wish I had a nickel for every time I saw one of those Gen III motors leak intake gaskets.

  • @AdirondackNY
    @AdirondackNY 9 років тому +8

    this is a job for Flex Seal. if it can seal a leaky boat on TV it can fix it all

  • @franklynyagual9811
    @franklynyagual9811 11 років тому

    sir,my respect to you,your videos are very helpful,i really enjoyed this,and learned something new every time i watch them,i have a mustang gt 99,do u have any videos recommendation?

  • @davidbates6493
    @davidbates6493 10 років тому

    When I do the smoke test on my 99 camry, smoke comes out of the EGR modulator filter. Is this normal? Should I seal it and keep looking? I've got P0171 , the car idles poorly, and I can hear a hissing noise.

  • @paulnewkirk7351
    @paulnewkirk7351 2 роки тому

    I wish you had explained where else on the vehicle a problem could occur.

  • @mattymat1219
    @mattymat1219 8 років тому +1

    I have the the same to lean codes on my 01 Ford Explorer Sport, 4.0, 6cly. I now have had a few vacuum hoses that needed to be replaced, replace the pcv valve, replaced the fuel filter & I just spent quite a bit of money to replace my upper & lower intake gaskets. Still have the same 2 codes. I ordered a new MAF that will be arriving today. If that does not fix it, what else should I do or have done? I'm losing my mind here.

    • @lilchopin1
      @lilchopin1 8 років тому

      +mattymat1219 Try your pre cat O2 sensors

    • @mattymat1219
      @mattymat1219 8 років тому

      +lilchopin1 I changed all 3 of the O2 sensors

    • @AgainstAllOddz
      @AgainstAllOddz 5 років тому

      mattymat1219 could be fuel problem , check fuel trims

  • @mxm190
    @mxm190 8 років тому

    I have a 2001 2500hd 6.0 and the engine shutters only when I hit a bump, and P0174 comes up on my programmer. what would be the cause in this case? I tried shaking wires under the hood and under the truck while running but didn't shake anything that made the engine miss. any ideas?

  • @PackedFunk
    @PackedFunk 11 років тому

    My 2000 5.3 Silverado has only code po171. Could it still be intake gasket leaking on one side?

  • @quietwyatt2004
    @quietwyatt2004 8 років тому +12

    Scotty says we can do this with a cigar

    • @dtnel
      @dtnel 4 роки тому +1

      Scotty doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.

    • @floridamansgarage8629
      @floridamansgarage8629 4 роки тому

      Quiet Wyatt 😂😂

    • @mikhailzapata1993
      @mikhailzapata1993 4 роки тому

      Quiet Wyatt i wonder if scotty takes two minutes fuc$&ing like he does on his videos. Lol

  • @dm-qx9fy
    @dm-qx9fy 11 років тому

    I am getting only the P0171 system too lean bank 1....why would only one side trip but not both?

  • @rulas702
    @rulas702 13 років тому

    can oxygen sensors triger this codes.. i have 07 avalanche new body style.. check intake leaks and replaced maf sensor.. fuel pressure is at 60.. also good .. now im down to think its oxygen sensors.... any help?

  • @MrSlasher80
    @MrSlasher80 13 років тому

    Thanks for another great video!

  • @Siper2
    @Siper2 9 років тому

    Great video!

  • @piterbrelton744
    @piterbrelton744 8 років тому

    awesome video, thanks for the tips

  • @fm3081
    @fm3081 13 років тому

    how much does that service costs? My 2002 silverado 1500 has the same codes problem PO171 AND PO174.

  • @amadeosanchez8916
    @amadeosanchez8916 2 місяці тому

    Do this method works for an 08 Tahoe

  • @samsungpdp
    @samsungpdp 12 років тому

    How much did that process cost in terms of parts and labor?

  • @waldipup9010
    @waldipup9010 3 роки тому

    Why would it have both 171 and 174 codes for both banks if leaking from only 1 side?

  • @gurdevsingh8534
    @gurdevsingh8534 7 років тому

    Really good vid.

  • @auto4x478
    @auto4x478 7 років тому

    many thanks very helpfull to me

  • @wyattsdad8561
    @wyattsdad8561 4 роки тому

    Hi I came across your vid today and I was wondering if you could answer a quick question?
    I have a 2001 Ford F-150, i did a smoke test because of a lean code I am getting. The only place the smoke came out was from a little round vent cap on the IAC valve. Is that little vent cap supposed to leak smoke? I remember doing a smoke test on my truck a few years back for a pcv valve hose leak and I don’t remember that cap ever leaking before. The only reason I’m questioning this is because I saw a couple posts online about this and I saw some people had said that vent cap will leak smoke during a smoke test. But again, when I did this test a few years back I think I would’ve noticed it.
    Thank you much appreciated

    • @realfixesrealfast
      @realfixesrealfast  4 роки тому +1

      the IAC valve should not leak smoke

    • @wyattsdad8561
      @wyattsdad8561 4 роки тому

      realfixesrealfast
      Okay thank you so much for the response. Lol all day at work I kept going back and forth in my head if it should or not. Thank you again

    • @wyattsdad8561
      @wyattsdad8561 4 роки тому

      I replaced the IAC valve on Friday night. That leaking vent where smoke cane out is was what was causing the vacuum leak.
      Thanks again for your input.

  • @TheGaginator
    @TheGaginator 10 років тому

    Awesome video thank you!

  • @jalapenovibes
    @jalapenovibes 13 років тому

    Nice video

  • @kdknitro
    @kdknitro 13 років тому

    i cant imagine y the intake would smash like that unless put on wrong or bad product

  • @workharddieproud
    @workharddieproud 4 роки тому

    Is it normal to get some smoke from an EGR Valve Body?? Mine has slots cut out in the body of the EGR Valve and some smoke comes out of those slots.

    • @realfixesrealfast
      @realfixesrealfast  4 роки тому

      remember, EGR is exhaust gas recirculation, so that smoke must be in the exhaust gas. That is not normal and should be checked

  • @paulmudzingwa8611
    @paulmudzingwa8611 6 років тому

    hi, can you pliz help i have my c230 v6 2007 and it runs so smooth but it is showing the check engine light and i checked it and it gave me this code. i cleared the error but it comes out after a 5 to 10 kilometers of drive
    Self-adaptation of mixture formation for enrichment at partial load for the left cylinder
    bank is above the permissible limit. (P0174)
    Self-adaptation of mixture formation for enrichment at partial load for the right cylinder
    bank is above the permissible limit. (P0171

  • @yipyipnopehmm
    @yipyipnopehmm 13 років тому

    super helpful. Thanks so much!

  • @Ghost-Of-Kyiv-
    @Ghost-Of-Kyiv- 3 роки тому +1

    God what did this cost

  • @PedalTheGlobe
    @PedalTheGlobe 6 років тому

    You put the wrong gaskets on the car. GM had a TSB on this. The updated gaskets are teal in color. Your customer will have this issue again if they keep the car long enough.

  • @josephpinkfloyd
    @josephpinkfloyd 11 років тому

    nice videos

  • @tpformybunghole1974
    @tpformybunghole1974 9 років тому +1

    Hello, I have 2.0 96 contour. Had it smoke tested and smoke came out egr valve vent holes. Guy didn't block off intake or exhaust just put snapon smoke machine onto valve cover. Is the smoke leaking from those vent holes normal because it may have a positive pressure egr? He said not supposed to leak another shop said same, but I've read it may be normal on some cars. Please reply because I'd greatly appreciate it because I'm getting contradictory information. Thanks

    • @ArturoTorres
      @ArturoTorres 9 років тому +1

      tpformybunghole1974 I'd like to know the answer to this as well

    • @dalmark1747
      @dalmark1747 8 років тому

      +Arturo Torres Hi there, i am looking for the same answer just like you , did you find it , please share it. Thanks

    • @ArturoTorres
      @ArturoTorres 8 років тому

      +Dal Mark Yeah, it is normal. I replaced it with a brand new Motorcraft EGR valve and it did the same.

    • @dalmark1747
      @dalmark1747 8 років тому

      Thank you so so much...On mine , the smoke is coming through those wholes .I was doubting on it , so I will see it as normal then. Thanks again.

  • @studpuppy69
    @studpuppy69 13 років тому

    LOL, I guess incense wouldn't work? Great vid!

  • @TheUnpreparedMind
    @TheUnpreparedMind 3 роки тому

    Also getting a O2 sensor code

  • @fm3081
    @fm3081 13 років тому

    WHERE IS YOU SHOP LOCATED?

  • @alvez72
    @alvez72 11 років тому

    hey can u help me with this i have at malibu 97 and my low radiator hose is empty

  • @eriklopez869
    @eriklopez869 9 років тому

    I got two trucks with the same problem. Its a s10 with 4.3 and a Van with 5.7. I changed MAF sensors on both trucks. S10 ran alot better after that and van is the same. Also both exhaust manifolds on both trucks turn CHERRY RED after running it. S10 gives a codes P0171 and P0147 ocassionally. I would greatly appreciate any help. Thanks alot

  • @danielcortes3478
    @danielcortes3478 10 років тому

    Hi , my name is Dan .I have the same codes coming up I put a new air flow sensor and it gives me the same codes I looked for leaks but did not find any could it be the 02 sensors are bad? Thank you dan ,it's a chevy silverado 2000

    • @reneescamilla3769
      @reneescamilla3769 9 років тому

      Daniel Cortes you may need to reprogram/update your pcm with the latest software, ive fixed a few of the like that after veryfying that nothing else is wrong

  • @sikesterone
    @sikesterone 11 років тому

    how much for something like that cost?