I'd disagree that bennett is the "best", as it depends on what ppl are looking for, a lot of ppl don't like the circle impact and innate pyro aura. But he is extremely good, especially for speedrun-focused players, and the absolute optimal choice for performance in most teams.
but why do you think kazuha is the best in the game as sucrose is a valid replacement in many teams when you used the same argument against furina (i love kazuha and bennett btw)
I think people downplay characters they dislike too. Everyone can agree Kazuha/Bennett/Furina/XQ are some of the strongest characters in the game. But how many people actually like XQ/Bennett as actual characters? How many people like their designs or would play they them if they weren't good? You have to make an active decision to pull for Kazuha/Furina and they have much more fleshed out personalities, so not only is the average person more likely to want to play them, the people that don't like them can just choose not to pull. People want to justify to themselves a reason not to use Bennett/XQ
I for one love Bennett's character and his overall demeanor, him being a top tier is a bonus. Just his absolute optimism with a slight of self depreciation due to his bad luck just makes me like him.
yep, when it comes to 5 stars some people get fomo and want confirmation that they pulled for a strong character. but I firmly believe in pulling who you like at which point you wont need to concern yourself with since trivialities. just have fun!
I think the main reason why others characters are "worst" than Bennett is because they have other units that do similar things. Yelan, xingqiu, furina are quite similar. If we only had one of those units then I think it would be very different. In other hand we don't have any really good replacement for Bennett or xiangling
We do have other characters that do similar things with his kits (as an attack buffer), but all of them work within their own niche. (Xianyun, Yunjin, Shenhe, etc...)
technically, you can use sara as a discount bennett. its just her element doesnt synergize well with attack buffing, especially after dendro. arle, lyney and xiangling, who are arguably the most bennett reliant characters, all enable pyro resonance by themselves, giving that much more value to bennett's buffing capabilities.
Its simple. To apply hydro off field, we have many option. For attack buffer we don't. Thats why Bennett is still mandatory in so many teams while XQ is less. (Since Yelan or Furina can do a part of his job)
I am not a speedrunner by any means, and I agree that Bennett is pretty much the most irreplaceable unit in the game in the highest number of teams. So many units feel so much worse to play without him specifically.
while i do agree furina is oversold by a lot of people and both bennett and xingqiu are simultaneously over and underrated by different groups, i think zajef's point that the character who provides the most in the most situations is going to change based on what you look for holds true there is no true objectivity when it comes to naming a unit the best or the strongest in a general sense because the comparisons become too arbitrary some people who focus on things like dolphin investment speed clears will value the essentially uncontested slot bennett fills in the teams that have high reliance on him for their optimal output generalist horizontal investment accounts not focused on vertical investment speedrunning like what zajef covers and values will end up prioritizing the role versatility and consolidation a unit like xingqiu provides to so many different teams that arent looking to just fill the slot of an atk buff; hydro app is a lot more generally valuable when it comes to many meta teams at f2p/low spending investment so while theres absolutely an argument to be made both ways as far as xingqiu or bennett being the strongest overall unit, i do think the crux of the issue lies in the fact that the argument is arbitrary given its subjectivity and the fact its difficult to really compare the value they provide in a way that accounts for subjectivity both are great, everyone will value them differently based on the kind of gameplay they value
People don't understand basic things in Genshin. People literally believe that melt and vape have "fallen off" when it's literally not the case. They are strong as ever and very powerful. Literally look at Arlecchino's vape teams. Strong AF. Typical Genshin brain tbh. Bennett didn't "fall off" ever. In Sumeru, he was less valuable since those units didn't want Pyro because it screwed over the reaction, or, they scaled from EM or something, where he couldn't help with. In every expansion, there's always been units that work fantastically with him. Wanderer loves him, and he came out during Sumeru. If Dehya was worth a damn, she probably would have loved him too but she sucks. Bennett is great for nearly every Inazuma, Mondstadt, Liyue, and Fontaine unit. He's arguably gotten STRONGER because he's usually paired with Furina, who is paired with many DPS units. He is incredibly cheap to build, but can output solid nukes if built correctly. He can tick heal for 10k. His pyro circle can help Kazuha double swirl in vape. He's going to get stronger and stronger. 1.2k attack for free is no joke. People are objectively WRONG if they believe Bennett will ever be weak. He just does too much to ever be considered weak or not needed. Clorinde is going to use him for her Overload teams, among other things.
To add on to this: melt/vape haven't fallen off, it's just that other options are viable and not dog water, so there's more options, it doesn't mean classic attack based vape teams are weaker, it's just that there's more competition now.
With absolutely no disrespect to Xinqiu or yelan, but I think their value lowered in my perception because furina is not reliant on her ult to guarantee her hydro application. I wasn’t expecting her entourage to be so consistent with hydro application, and now I rarely play Xinqiu simply because he became my third choice when it comes to off field hydro. On the other hand, we still have no character that does what bennet does. Hopefully natlan will bring in a new character that can fit the same role. But as of today, I would feel comfortable not having my c6 Xinqiu anymore, but I’d feel lost without bennet.
I disagree cause she loses damage if you don't have a healer and her hydro app is noticeably worse than both of em. Especially if xingqui is C6. And if you don't have a good healer then she feels bad cause you'll be dying all the time.
@@wilburforce8046in goes bennett reliant teams and hb teams where "technically" Furina is the bis character but the team feels much worse and vulnerable.
If they really want to, they can easily powercreep both for speedrunning by putting most of the power of the new units into their skill and not their burst, like Nahida. Before Fontaine I would have said that's just too good, ain't no way, but with stuff like Neuv, Furina & Arle coming out I wouldn't find it shocking if they made a Bennett with his atk buff on his skill (burst could be added damage or some other feature related to the Natlan gimmick), and a Pyro fischl that finally solves the pyro off field application issue without the XL ER clunk. With a pyro archon and potentially a pyro sovereign on the horizon, the sky is the limit really. I just hope they don't end up being on fielders, not only fontaine was already too much onfield, but PYRO onfielders on top of that? That's the last thing we need.
@@victorvonfrankenstein1806 even non speedruns if you have multiple 5 stars in the team with ~3s animations each Your buffs won't last long for your damaging window
@@MacA60230 even a pyro fischl won't be enough .. aoe is still needed I can't see a situation where they get replaced Maybe a new bol stuff for specific teams sure But a universal better bennett I don't think it will happen
@@AR-gr6pj thats why we have new charactrs like furina or chev that have almost permanent buff uptime Edit. Also my point was the added 3s long animation doesnt matter for non speedrunners
i guess one of my advantages is since I upload lots of gameplay showcases, I learn first hand the clear speed differences with bennett teams vs without. so that helps to know how strong he still is
i think there's a fair argument for other characters to be the best, but the truth of the matter is that bennett really doesn't have a replacement anywhere. that's what makes him the best in my eyes, but of course there will be several people arguing for a character like xingqiu, kazuha, or furina (and i do think that's also a fair conclusion depending on the way you're looking at the question). i also agree with the other commenter that said people tend to underrate characters they dislike (many of which happen to dislike bennett)
I love the funny workarounds the game has to try to make Bennett less desirable. Most recently it was how they made Furina’s fanfare stacks to be less synergistic but not being able to counter a high healing build of Bennett.
as a casual player with arlecchino... double hydro arlecchino wihtout bennett feels so bad. my account could live wihtout xingqiu, but it would DIE without bennett.
I don’t think you could live without XQ either unless you really really really commit yourself to play just one Arlecchino team. Trust me, Arlecchino VV vape team without XQ is absolutely horrible to play, especially at low cost and against aggressive enemy. I tested it on my friend account and it made me wanna kms so bad. don’t get me wrong, the team isn’t that bad. it worked fine and dandy until I fought an aggressive enemy like Coppelius. lol And I think double hydro feels bad for you because you used to see Arlecchino doing bigger number. which is to be expected from frontloaded character like her. that doesn’t necessarily mean the team is bad though. It’s still a good team, just feel perceptively bad.
@@xiahe6708 I even stated it in my comment. seriously, did you not see the word “low cost” ? If you have enough DPS to one rotate Coppelius in 5-6s, then defensive utility is the last thing you need. except that it’s not for low cost case. try it, try Arlecchino against Coppelius and tell me how it goes, I have no doubt that you could one rotate it but can you do it before they kill you ? that’s the real question.
I'm fairly firmly anti-Bennet most of the time because I hate playing in circles without very strong CC, but every time I play him I recognize that I'm stupid and should really just play him nearly all the time.
Ive built 3 accounts with entirely different rosters (to pull and test most characters myself before deciding best picks for main acc), and all of my accounts have multiple teams which heavily rely on Bennett (and actually have to fight for him). There are also 2 accounts where i don't use XQ at all. And im not some Bennett fan or whatever (i actually didn't want to build him on release cuz he looks stupid), i simply play ONLY optimal teams (in their optimal situations). I also don't really feel the "circle impact" problem - i have high ER to replace his Q on each new wave (spawning in different place), i can group enemies on his circle with Kazuha, there are plenty of teams which use his circle simply as infusion source (sunfire/Kazuha), and most single targets don't even move (like bosses on their vulnerability phase).
Definitely agree on benny, kazu n xl being the best units even now zajef's xq glazing is getting out of hand 💀 (I think casuals that suck at the game would struggle even with xq n want to play zl instead if they wanted more comfort while veterans/'try-hards' would play smth like yelan instead for higher dmg)
Yelan is better based on team, with hydro res yelan does more damage but pyro res alows xq to do more damage. if the team like arlechino has a buncha damage percent up to 340 yelan falls off a cliff in terms of dmg percent buffing and xq is better in terms of damage for reaction teams and finally if you use nobless xq better in dps and yelan usually better in hyper teams except in cyno alhatham arlecchino and soem other dps
Why would any casual use ZL over XQ ? It will be comfier, yes, but if they suck at the game, the shield is going to break and they’re going to fking die. not to mention, they are going to struggle at DPS check, as we already knew, ZL is a DPS loss character in most case. you are delusional and detached from reality if you think casual have enough damage to clear nowadays abyss. I’m a veteran player myself and I still use XQ more than C2 Yelan. probably not using Yelan at all if she’s at C0. I means.. why would I care about measly 25% DMG buff ? why would I care about her damage when XQ damage is similar to hers ?
@@xiahe6708 Some of yours are just… wrong. With Hydro RES, XQ would do more damage because he has 15% Hydro RES shed. the higher the enemy’s RES, the more valuable RES shed becomes. With Pyro RES, both XQ and Yelan would do relatively similar DPS. literally written on KQM website. “both of them have similar damage output.” You also don’t need copious amount of DMG% stacking to make Yelan less useful. her buff isn’t even that great in the first place. I means.. it’s nice and all but it’s a ramp up buff. people see her buff and be like “wow ! 50% DMG ?! Insane ! BATCHEST” when in reality, the average you get from her buff is 25%. which is not bad but it’s not much.
Every characters release starting from wanderer till now works well with furina and she is included in basically everyone best team dps wise 4 star or 5 star, support or on/off field dps with the exception of kirara and maybe chiori/arle. She even make older units viable, you say diluc really want bennett, but without xianyun and/or furina he just straight up bad if you're just running bennett kazuha with diluc. So i just don't see how bennett could be better than furina since he also actively make your team more fraglie with his self pyro app
ALL of my irls who plays genshin play it incredibly casually, and they all really like xingqui (mostly because theyre partial to dendro team). Tho I agree that xingqui is less valuable in vape now AND vape is the strongest archetype in the game (since 1.0 even). Bennet tho, dude carried my abyss from the beginning and hes so cheap to build. The hate he got from being versatile and long lasting is weird to me but people enjoy different things i guess!
Imo strongest character is the one that would have the biggest impact on the game if it would be deleted. If hoyo delete XQ from the game, we will just play furina and yelan, we wouldnt even notice the lack of XQ. Same goes for Yelan. Kazuha is interesting koz we would really miss him, but there is still sucrose... Its a noticable downgrade in many many teams, unlike swapping between yelan and XQ, but its still something usable. There is no bennet replacement for most hypercarries. Some can play Furina + Xianyun and have a similar or sometimes better performance (Xiao, Navia) but the rest would fall off a clif and they would be miles behind the neuvilette and the dendro teams.
Yeah Bennett is the top tier with Xingqiu, Xiangling and Fischl imo. But you can now build an 8 character Spiral Abyss team without him, which wasn't possible before Dendro.
My account is honestly the antithesis of bennett being the best, because somehow all the characters I play don't need bennett that much. A short list of characters I have and how bennett does to them: Hutao - bennett optimal damage but is not that required to get good clear times, even just jean to vv buff Yelan-C2 Furina core is enough to compensate from experience. Yoimiya - bennett optimal damage but since I don't have ZL, the defensive utility falls usually on replacing bennett. Nilou - no brainer here. Ayaka - no brainer here. Ayato - only good argument to using bennett here. Xiao - great option but I gravitate towards jean/xianyun with furina for energy economy of non-c6 Faruzan. Noelle - would prefer Furina anyways. If anything Furina have been the most oppressive on my account, being an upgrade to everyone on my roster and would feel shit to play without her. I even pulled Arlecchino because I wanted someone who's not reliant on Furina, and to use my bennett who is sitting on the shelf for the better part of the last 2 years. The necessity of using bennett was pretty much tied to when I would need to use XL those past 2 years. So far I was reminded of his flaws though, being circle impact and the vulnerability of being in a pyro circle ready to be oneshot by kenki, tulpa, or copellia is not fun. It's an actual threat to survivability which people seem to always gloss over, while they criticize furina for her hp drain which is a non-issue when you are required to use a healer anyways. Newer characters being bennett reliant again does not show the whole picture where a big part of 2.x and 3.x steered away from using him. I would also not be surprised if they are gearing up these characters in preparation for Natlan or the pyro archon. Also "improving clear times" is being used very loosely here, because for casuals furina is an upgrade to overall team damage for way too many characters, to easily and consistently reach dps thresholds to 36* star or clear faster. But for speedrunners who don't care about overall team damage per rotation and just want the fastest clear times, that's where you find bennett being more popular.
I agree with you Kazuha, XL, Bennett are still on top These 3 people are soo essential and actually makes so many teams feel soo much worse if absent. I understand why Zaj speaks soo highly of XQ but man the amount of times I go like I wish I had an extra Bennet and XL is much more than I do for XQ Kazuha, I cope with Venti, if I am desperate for CC or Sucorse if I need the buffs, but really Kazuha is soo much better.
Zajeff was coping with xingqiu against Bennet zhongli I feel like he's at the perfect level of skill issue where he can't clear without xingqiu's little crutch but doesn't need a healing or shielding big crutch But for people he theory crafts for. They can't survive with only xingqiu. So now he's theory crafting for just himself
I don't like either Bennett or Xingqiu but Bennett is better for me. Xingqiu not only has tough competition, he's also a dps loss to his competition. I haven't played him since Furina release. Bennett, on the other hand, still have some teams in my account, mainly Arlecchino. The fact that I can't bench Bennett even if i hate him says Bennett is the better character.
Love Bennett, have used him for years, but I can think of only one unit that feels bad without him. Xiangling. And that's mostly because of the energy funneling. Every other unit has reasonable alternatives. But then, I only care about clearing the hardest challenge (36 star abyss), not optimizing it. Our priorities may differ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
At 15:40 When Zajeff said he would rather play Xingqiu over Zhongli for a 'casual' clear, I knew he has lost it. If he really thinks Xingqiu is more casual friendly or comfortable than Zhongli (when both teams would clear anyways), then he's just glazing Xingqiu for no reason, it's pure copium. Especially including the fact that in this specific Abyss the Cryo Kenki and Copellius freezes you whenever you E on XQ. And it's on Arlechinno no less, who appreciates Zhongli more, as even with dmg reduction, she can't heal on demand so will lose HP regardless. The take is so horrendously bad that I have just given up on taking that guy seriously whenever he even mentions Xingqiu anymore. Like whenever he mentions him good for a character, my mind literally thinks, "He's probably lying again, let me close this vid/stream right now"
How much zhongli apply hydro? 0 so in a team like hu tao kazuha bennett if you use yelan it’s gonna be 10% dmg higher and so much less comfortable with xq is 10% lower but so much comf with zhonl you lost half the dmg or even more for sm more shield so in that case zn much less options than xq for casual
@@xv6016Arle isn’t a vape slave like Hu Tao is. XQ is providing no direct offensive offense for her other than hydro app. You’re way over-exaggerating his presence compared to ZL.
@@kale1287 ZL give shield xq dr and dmg and hydro thats the deff what make xq better for almost anyone in not hell hard abyss higher dmg arle well deal more dmg with xq than zl and also dmg and if you play yelan with zl or any char is gonna be lower than xq yelan or others and not realy hard to survive for norml players
I think for ATK scaling on field DPS and sub DPS who can snapshot his buff (xiangling, fischl, etc), Bennett is almost always the optimal choice, and he heals too. Personally I prefer teams where everyone can contribute damage, that's why I use Furina more because of her teamwide buff. But why choose if you can have both? :P
As a new player, a C1 Bennett with Sapwood Blade has much more value than a C2 Xingqiu without a high refine Fav or Sac sword. I guess you could put the pipe on him, but I have Furina.
Also worth adding: I think Zajef overrates Xingqiu's defensive utility for more casual players, this has been a pretty consistent thing for a long time. In my opinion his DR and slight healing is not enough for the average abyss 12 player in most scenarios, someone who isn't super knowledgeable or inclined to get really good at the game, just trying to clear, you still want another healer or shielder. It's still useful but I would not consider it as a sufficient defensive option. It doesn't really compare to just slotting in Zhongli for example
I hate Bennett. But I also think Bennett is still the goat. I also think it's not by accident anymore, you could argue early on in the game that they just overshot his buffing, but now I think the fact they keep him not only relevant but NECESSARY for most atk scalers AND spam enemies like Coppelia in abyss is a clear design choice. They could design atk scalers that don't benefit much from his flat atk buff but nope they double, triple down on him and make sure you suffer from his pyro aura. They want to create the need for a "new bennett" that they'll sell you in Natlan.
Not playing a shielder in Nuev teams makes it feel trash. Especially this abyss. Smoking on Hu Tao. I have never used bennet on her team and until recently, with Furina it was just bad. Next do the Zhongli reliant characters. 😂 will be a very similar list. Copellia in every single abyss is the biggest contributor to the downfall of Cryo and Anemo dps. That said the only teams i been able to speed run this abyss chamber 1 and 2 in 30 seconds are you guessed it Bennet teams. Litteraly the only reason Hu Tao on the other side can clear comfortably.
1:07 that's unfortunate that you highlighted that comment in the video but didn't show your tier list of characters that quote on quote "want" Bennett which was basically half of the of the on-fielder units lmao
Glad someone else thinks Bennet is the goat. From a casual players perspective they want their favourite char to meet the DPS threshold to 36 star regardless of resets. I think that Bennet overall contributes more to that goal than XQ will, especially when considering F2P or casual investment. I also think that XQ is also a charcter that is fairly reliant on Bennet being present in vape, whereas Bennet isn't reliant on XQ being present.
I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of Bennett. I want to play Diluc. He needs Bennett. I play Yoimiya. She wants Bennett. I try to play Dehya. My Bennett does more damage. I try to play Thoma. My Bennett protects and buffs more. I try to play Xiangling. Her best team has Bennett. I want to play raiden, childe. They both want Bennett. He grabs me by the throat. I craft a sword for him. I give him Sapwood Blade. He isn't satisfied. I pull Skyward Blade. "I don't need this much er" He tells me. "Give me more crit." He puts down a small circle on the ground and forces you to stay inside. "You just need to give me higher base attack. I can do more damage with Mistsplitter." I can't pull for Mistsplitter, I don't have enough primogems. He grabs my credit card. It declines. "Guess this is the end." He applies pyro to you and throws you into the icy clutches of Coppelia. There is no hint of sadness in his eyes. Nothing but pure, no icd 2U pyro application. What a cruel world.
i am anti bennet in that i hate having to stay in a circle, if theres an option to play non circle impact teams i will always pick that. however the experience is always worse than just forcing myself to play bennet. he is the best character in the game imo and it sucks, i wish there were more options.
Ngl I consider myself a skill issue kind of Genshin player, and the only reason I could comfortably deal with the god forsaken cringe fest that double electro abyss lectors was in chamber 2 of floor 12 was because I said fuck this shit and slotted Bennet with TF. I just can't be bothered to reset a gazillion times because they refuse to stay close to each over and over and over again. Doesn't matter what I do. Running to the edge and my ping will make them stay still for almost 10 seconds after respawning. I tried to force them with bursts and that was way too unresponsive sometimes. So Bennet with Xiangling and a cubic meter of ER was my solution.
Hi. I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on my personal argument regarding this topic, if you find the interest/time Jamie. I'm somebody who believes that Xingqiu and Bennett are the two best characters in the game, and I think it's pretty close all things considered. That said, I personally use the tiebreaker that Hydro works in more archetypes overall than Pyro does. Bennett's lack of "oppressive" presence (to use your term, correct me if I'm using it wrong) in Dendro teams is just enough of a knock against him to make Xingqiu the king in my book, even though I still believe they're close. Of course, contextually, Bennett obviously outshines Xingqiu in plenty of situations by a significant margin, which is why I insist that they're close when comparing them to the rest of the cast. What are your thoughts on this? Xingqiu being Hydro vs Bennett being Pyro when looking through the lens of overall character versatility is the crux of my argument in my own head. Do you have any interesting insight/thoughts to share on this idea? Cheers buddy.
definitely agree with bennett being irreplaceable since even with a c3 arlecchino, without bennett it feels like torture. like i can replace kazuha, yelan, zhongli, whatever other support but bennett increases her damage by so much i feel and it feels like no one can be in that slot besides him, idk maybe its just me
for the longest time i felt like my account really needed a second Xingqiu and when i got yelan my account felt much better. but these days even with a c2 furina i still want a second bennett cuz he feels so needed for so many of my favorite characters and characters i plan to pull. so yeah even if you have strong hydros youll still want a bennett like character that cant take your damage to the next level
I feel like jamie had a strong point. Or honestly stronger. Zajeff was basiclaly saying that bennet is one but hydro is yelan xingqui and furina but that didnt really make sense right? So im wondering if i got his point wrong but if it was that obviously it doesnt make sense. Cause bennet is heavy usable on most characters vs xingqui, yelan, furina being replaceable by eachother. Like zajeff point was that xingqui drfensive is strong and xingqui is still one of mt favorite character but like jamie said you could just use zhongli with bennet and arle. Like its cope coming from zajeff.
Do you even watch the stream ? First, Zajef already explained why he think XQ is the best character in the game. his target audience is average casual F2P player. for those target audience, XQ kinda is THE best character. hell, I’m not even F2P casual but I still find myself using XQ more than Yelan and Furina. Second, Yelan and Furina cannot replace XQ. the same way Kazuha doesn’t replace Sucrose. XQ still have better hydro app than Yelan and Furina combine. even his damage is relatively similar to Yelan. Lastly, yes, you can use Zhongli with Arlecchino but what if someone want to play different team ? or want to try low cost speedrunning ? in both case, Xingqiu is straight up better option than any option. Daily reminder that Zajef is the guy who wrote Bennett guide on KQM, the guy who literally have Bennett as his channel’s pfp, the guy that use Bennett as his favorite character in Samsung tournament. the fact that he put XQ above Bennett despite him saying he doesn’t like XQ is enough of a proof that he’s not bias toward XQ. this is the same guy who love Dehya and still calling her dogshit on daily basis.
@@nanathedelta8561 the best character for f2p casuals is Neuvillette and it's not even close. He deals good dmg, tanky as hell, heals himself, easy to play, best team includes Zhongli, good vertical investment path and more.
@@はたけカカシ-u8b Wow, Neuvillette doing good damage ! cool, but you know what’s cooler ? having Bennett buffs your entire team. having XQ applies a massive hydro app for reaction, doing good damage while making active character almost invincible. like.. what does Neuvillette provide that other character can’t ? absolutely nothing. all he does is just damage and that’s it. literally the same as any dedicated on-field characters. all they do is damage. Wanna play burgeon team ? good luck removing burning aura without XQ. Wanna play Hu Tao team ? good luck vaping her CA without XQ. Wanna play ATK scaling characters, which is 90% of the roster ? good luck without Bennett. Need a flex tape for the team ? Bennett and XQ got you cover. Without XQ/Bennett , you either stuck with worse version teams OR teams that couldn’t even function at all. now, it’s not like the worse version teams can’t clear, they can but the real question is.. is it good enough to secure 36 stars ? as you may already knew, casual player often do not have enough DPS to reach the clearing threshold. I’m not saying that Neuvillette isn’t the best for casual. he *IS* but he’s nowhere near XQ and Bennett. he also not a broken character like casual claimed him to be. I highly recommend you to watch some of Jamie’s account review videos or Zajef’s account review videos. plenty of casual player who came for the review often have Neuvillette in their account but not his teammate. you know what both Jamie and Zajef often tell them ? “you don’t have a good team for Neuvillette”. then retort to Bennett/XQ team (unless the account owners say they ABSOLUTELY do not want to play those two)
@@nanathedelta8561 for new f2p casual players, i would recommend Neuvillette for one side and Aggravate teams for other side. There is no way i would recommend Sucrose national, taser, Hu Tao Vape, burgeon, etc to a new player which are sweaty to play. If they don't have enough characters or artifacts, i would just recommend to not to rush and play for a little longer. From what you said about Bennett and Xingqiu, only Bennett part is true because he has no replacement. I can just play hydro teams no sweat even if Xingqiu got deleted from my account. There is no team that specifically requires Xingqiu. Hu Tao, Arlecchino, Yoimiya, Diluc, Gaming, Xiangling, Yanfei, Klee? Their best teams don't even include Xingqiu in the first place. National, Rational, Hyperbloom, taser? Furina and Yelan can replace him without a sweat. Burgeon? I won't do this to myself. Nilou bloom, Freeze, Neuvillette? Don't use Xingqiu in the first place. I can give Bennett one to you because he's got no replacement but not Xingqiu. A character who is that replaceable can't be the best character by definition.
This is how meta works. It changes from time to time with respect to characters that come out and abyss layouts etc. I understand why at a certain bennett wasnt as favorable but now with how many more atk dependent characters they added, its only natural that bennett is more popular now.
It's definitely interesting see the perspectives. Everyone has their biases, CCs not excluded, and that's fair enough since it's a game after all. I'm as shocked as jamie at zajef preferring xq over zhongli for comfort clears with arle, haha. 😂 still, good fun to have you guys friendly conversation about it. I too hope for Natlan to bring Bennet alternatives; and I wonder if they will make certain kind of ATK buffs unstackable, just to prevent the case that both the new bennett alternative and bennett himself have to be played together... 😅 Chevreuse kinda has that.
Xingqiu is great because he can fulfill almost any role that you want a hydro character for, but there's also always another hydro character that can replace him and do his job better. Bennett is great because he's the best buffer in the game, and the other buffers either do his job worse or do his job in a rare niche, so you almost never find yourself using two buffers where one of them isn't Bennett unless a character literally can't use attack buffs.
Alright definitely interesting points here, I still do believe that Furina is better in my opinion because of her actually pretty decent personal damage with pretty good uptime and not restricting you to a circle. But saying Bennett fell out of relevance especially with Arlecchino being out is definitely a bit misleading to me. I'd still say hes the best 4 star for sure. But in general I think that there is no definitive "best" character in the game because we all value different things and every account is different, playstyle preferences as well. Again, great video man!
haha. XQ worshiping at its best. After playn Arli in 20 different teams for casual player Zhongli is way above XQ. However the easiest way is to play them both or substitute him for Yelan. Beny is much more dps loss but Arli is so strong that you can clear at f2p investment wih her and ZhongLi only. I notice however that I much rather play Fruina in Nahida teams than Xq. Its so much comfort and dps gain cos you can freely burst with Nahida without loss I agree that Beny is one of the units that is felt much more if not in the team, but Nahida is the same for dendro teams.
To define who is the strongest you'd have to set clear criteria. Bennett is currently the most irreplaceable character in the game. Xingqiu is the most complete character. Furina is the most "luxurious" character to elevate most teams even further. Depending on what matters the most to you, any of them can pretend to be the strongest.
Noelle needs Furina and not Ben. She is kinda unique in that regard. It's nice that Furina is the only valuable character that Noelle wants to horde. The others can go on the other side. Furina also works with her spin to win - very important cus more Fan Fair.
I always considered Bennett to be the best character until Dendro came out where I then dropped him to number 2 after Xingqiu. Both Bennett and Xingqiu are the only characters that are super important to a team's DPS while SIMULTANEOUSLY covering for the defensive and/or healing aspect of team building. And the only reason Bennett is "irreplaceable" is because they haven't created the 5star version of him yet. If Yelan didn't exist, Xingqiu would have that "irreplaceable" quality as well since many teams are reliant on a consistent high-volume source of off field hydro. And Xingqiu > Yelan assuming f2p investment because of defensive utility and because there are times when Xingqiu's extra hydro app is necessary and Yelan's app isn't good enough. For the situations where Yelan is better than Xingqiu, Xingqiu is still very close and good enough to replace her, but for the situations where Xingqiu is better than Yelan, Yelan can range from slightly worse (generally the hyperbloom related teams) to significantly worse (any team where you'd lose vapes with Yelan).
I disagree on XL being top 3. It would be Bennett, Kazuha, Furina same level hands down imo. All carries are up there because of these supports. Bennett provides: High atk to on field, Heal, self Pyro app Kazuha : VV, Medium Dmg%, Grouping, upper mid aoe damage, infusion off-field app. Furina : Universal High Dmg%, High off-field sub dmg, ok hydro app.
I truly Dk how u even argue against this point, why would u even have this take if it’s not optimal, cause if it’s not optimal ucan play whatever u want, but in terms of optimal dmg like 90% of the cast need Bennet
I have been consistently36 starring the abyss since I was AR50. Not once did I do it with bennett (not even in the lower floors) Not because I don't think bennett is good. It's because I hate circle impact (specially small circles)
Undervalueing Xianyun and Furina is a pretty jamie take so I am already used to it. Though Bennet is still really good, one of the best charatcer in the game, but ignoring Furina more unviersal buff and off-field dps potential is a little bit off. Espeically becuase without Bennet a lot fo charatcer have new good teams with Chevreuse or before thet with Dendro. Even Navia have a great team without Bennet.
thanks for the comment but saying furina isn't the best character in the game = undervaluing furina? 🤔 also i don't think i would say xianyun even in the conversation
@@jamiekb9v thing is you are clearly biased and u dont explain how many teams who usually run bennet can now use other chars (chev/cloud retainer/furina/dendro..) I mean no disrespect but u pointing out the strength of bennet without listing his weaknesses make ur take less credible, give us actual numbers/comparisons that show how better is bennet than other supports, and i mean actual showcases not just theoretical numbers coz in abyss depending on a small circle isnt always optimal/practical
@@lapsus4 I show actual showcases all the time, thats basically my whole channel 😅 if anything I get complaints that I don't show enough theoretical numbers
@@jamiekb9vYes I see your showcases but I don't see any comparisons, it's just random speedruns with different buffs/cards and teams so it's not an actual and reliable comparison
@@lapsus4 What are you talking about, jamie is the guy who talks about the practical parts of how teams work, and shows gameplay the most out of most content creators. The last theoretical stuff or spreadsheet I saw from him was like a few months ago. And for bias goes, everyone has bias. That's why it's an opinion. It's clear that you have Furina bias. Both are strong characters. As long as it includes the best characters in the game (Bennett, Xingqiu, Yelan, Furina, Neuvilette, Kazuha) we can sit the whole day and talk about who's the best and come out with nothing substantial.
Bennet would have been the most broken character in the game if his buff wasnt tied to a small circle, that and the self pyro infusion from his circle which expose u to getting one shotted easily by some bosses
@@jadedeleon156it's not flawless because ennemis can hit you during Kazuha's burst but I agree that it's a blessing, it remove any cryo aura slowing you down, any debuff that the enemies sometimes have around them (like slowing water, the cooldown increase)
What is bro on? Ive been a c1 wriothesley main since he came out and i rarely use bennet. I main arlecchino now and I dont use Bennet at all. I 36* every abyss. It's like you spread sheet bros want to pretend the game is harder than it is
I think for a lot of people, the idea of playing the same three 4 star units that have been in the game since launch is just boring. I see both sides, I know how valuable Bennett, Xiangling and Xingqiu are, but don't want to always play them myself and don't think they're the best units. Personally I don't think many characters are THAT Bennett reliant. A few maybe. Arlecchino has great synergy with Bennett and he's invaluable for speed running, but outside of that she doesn't need him and can clear anything in the game without him.
Wrong! Bennett has never been a strong character. You can say important, good or versatile etc But he's rather weak when it comes to personal damage output.
He’s very good, but I want him to be powercreept. I want him to powercreept by the pyro Archon; because it’s fit so much, and that how he would be powercreept by her: 1- Making her forces all of your teammates to deal damage, and Bennett can’t deal damage, and the Pyro Archon is so strong that a character that don’t synergies with her is having an “issue” or “flaw.” Also forcing all of your teammates; to deal damage is a flaw to Furina; because she requires a healer (a character that doesn’t deal damage). And that’s good; to reduce Furina's universal usages. 2- doesn’t apply a pyro on the on-field character. 3- Buff all of your teammates, unlike Bennett who buff just the on-field one. 4- her buff is a damage% buff to synergies with the none-attack; scalers. 5- having a useful elemental skill, that deals a ton of damage; that’s higher than vaporise Xiangling. 6- not a circle impact-buff; depended. 7-making her design so beautiful, and having very good animations, and very hyper up (by fighting her to Capitano clearly); so a lot of people will pull for her, and forget Bennett. 8- making Natlan characters don’t use Bennett (by any way); to reduce his universal usages. 9- and finally making her super lucky. (by surviving from Capitano clearly) And… By her; it would by another Bennett's unlucky day…
What's the point of TC when you can beat the game with National on one side and Hyperbloom on the other until the game's EOS? Especially now when an actual skill-based Gacha ARPG is less than a week from release. Bennett simulator, how fun!
because genshin isn't majorly skill based so people don't care about using the same meta team, and want to do different stuff, even if it's a different meta team If genshin only has national and hyperbloom as the only good team, you'd already quit at 2.0 let alone get to 2.1. It's boring, so stop using bennett, do something different as long as you still feel good, aka it's as strong as hyperbloom. If you're sick of your messy room, clean it up, if you're sick of your bedsheets, buy a new one.
I mean, brother, I can also ask: “Why play Genshin Impact if there’s not a lot content?” Or “Why playing Genshin Impact if it’s wastes a lot of time of your real life?” Or “Why spending the resin; if you already have good artifacts?” Or “Why the people who are extremely smart and have a very good potential for real life; wastes thier time for something like ‘Genshin’”? It’s clearly for habit reasons, and the peoples who don’t want to change… But I very appreciate you braveness for saying this kind of opinion to a whole channel that's around theorycrafting, and a community around it also. 🗿👍 (not a hate for them tho)
people are welcome to agree or disagree in the comments, it's all good! just don't be toxic or obnoxious about it
The fact this has to be said just shows how mental the genshin community is, I do disagree with the take but I'll hear you out and watch it fully
@@Kiryu-Channnnnnn Nah, sadly, every community is like this. I think is more about people, than genshin players.
Atleast there's awareness
I'd disagree that bennett is the "best", as it depends on what ppl are looking for, a lot of ppl don't like the circle impact and innate pyro aura. But he is extremely good, especially for speedrun-focused players, and the absolute optimal choice for performance in most teams.
but why do you think kazuha is the best in the game as sucrose is a valid replacement in many teams when you used the same argument against furina (i love kazuha and bennett btw)
I think people downplay characters they dislike too. Everyone can agree Kazuha/Bennett/Furina/XQ are some of the strongest characters in the game. But how many people actually like XQ/Bennett as actual characters? How many people like their designs or would play they them if they weren't good? You have to make an active decision to pull for Kazuha/Furina and they have much more fleshed out personalities, so not only is the average person more likely to want to play them, the people that don't like them can just choose not to pull. People want to justify to themselves a reason not to use Bennett/XQ
I for one love Bennett's character and his overall demeanor, him being a top tier is a bonus. Just his absolute optimism with a slight of self depreciation due to his bad luck just makes me like him.
yep, when it comes to 5 stars some people get fomo and want confirmation that they pulled for a strong character. but I firmly believe in pulling who you like at which point you wont need to concern yourself with since trivialities. just have fun!
I like both of em as character
I like XQ genuinely, he has good backstory and also great role every event he is in. He is the only national team member i still constantly use
@@jadedeleon156Yeah i love kazuha and furina (and bennett) for their design and personalities, i would still play them if they were bad
I think the main reason why others characters are "worst" than Bennett is because they have other units that do similar things. Yelan, xingqiu, furina are quite similar. If we only had one of those units then I think it would be very different. In other hand we don't have any really good replacement for Bennett or xiangling
Good point
well, considering there is no 5 star pyro support (ignoring a certain sumeru character) or sub dps in the game. things are to change.
We do have other characters that do similar things with his kits (as an attack buffer), but all of them work within their own niche. (Xianyun, Yunjin, Shenhe, etc...)
@@thatoneweebguy6379 those r not atk buffer....sara chev r the niche atk buffer
technically, you can use sara as a discount bennett. its just her element doesnt synergize well with attack buffing, especially after dendro. arle, lyney and xiangling, who are arguably the most bennett reliant characters, all enable pyro resonance by themselves, giving that much more value to bennett's buffing capabilities.
im sorry but this podcast/conversation was sooo much better to listen than the one with jstern. it was such a hostile environment with him.
bro lost himself in the arguing for the sake of arguing a bit
Its simple. To apply hydro off field, we have many option. For attack buffer we don't. Thats why Bennett is still mandatory in so many teams while XQ is less. (Since Yelan or Furina can do a part of his job)
I am not a speedrunner by any means, and I agree that Bennett is pretty much the most irreplaceable unit in the game in the highest number of teams. So many units feel so much worse to play without him specifically.
while i do agree furina is oversold by a lot of people and both bennett and xingqiu are simultaneously over and underrated by different groups, i think zajef's point that the character who provides the most in the most situations is going to change based on what you look for holds true
there is no true objectivity when it comes to naming a unit the best or the strongest in a general sense because the comparisons become too arbitrary
some people who focus on things like dolphin investment speed clears will value the essentially uncontested slot bennett fills in the teams that have high reliance on him for their optimal output
generalist horizontal investment accounts not focused on vertical investment speedrunning like what zajef covers and values will end up prioritizing the role versatility and consolidation a unit like xingqiu provides to so many different teams that arent looking to just fill the slot of an atk buff; hydro app is a lot more generally valuable when it comes to many meta teams at f2p/low spending investment
so while theres absolutely an argument to be made both ways as far as xingqiu or bennett being the strongest overall unit, i do think the crux of the issue lies in the fact that the argument is arbitrary given its subjectivity and the fact its difficult to really compare the value they provide in a way that accounts for subjectivity
both are great, everyone will value them differently based on the kind of gameplay they value
People don't understand basic things in Genshin. People literally believe that melt and vape have "fallen off" when it's literally not the case. They are strong as ever and very powerful. Literally look at Arlecchino's vape teams. Strong AF. Typical Genshin brain tbh. Bennett didn't "fall off" ever. In Sumeru, he was less valuable since those units didn't want Pyro because it screwed over the reaction, or, they scaled from EM or something, where he couldn't help with. In every expansion, there's always been units that work fantastically with him. Wanderer loves him, and he came out during Sumeru. If Dehya was worth a damn, she probably would have loved him too but she sucks. Bennett is great for nearly every Inazuma, Mondstadt, Liyue, and Fontaine unit. He's arguably gotten STRONGER because he's usually paired with Furina, who is paired with many DPS units. He is incredibly cheap to build, but can output solid nukes if built correctly. He can tick heal for 10k. His pyro circle can help Kazuha double swirl in vape. He's going to get stronger and stronger. 1.2k attack for free is no joke. People are objectively WRONG if they believe Bennett will ever be weak. He just does too much to ever be considered weak or not needed. Clorinde is going to use him for her Overload teams, among other things.
To add on to this: melt/vape haven't fallen off, it's just that other options are viable and not dog water, so there's more options, it doesn't mean classic attack based vape teams are weaker, it's just that there's more competition now.
@@marcusaurelius4777 4 months late but big agree, recently just returned to genshin and "old" teams work just fine
With absolutely no disrespect to Xinqiu or yelan, but I think their value lowered in my perception because furina is not reliant on her ult to guarantee her hydro application. I wasn’t expecting her entourage to be so consistent with hydro application, and now I rarely play Xinqiu simply because he became my third choice when it comes to off field hydro.
On the other hand, we still have no character that does what bennet does. Hopefully natlan will bring in a new character that can fit the same role. But as of today, I would feel comfortable not having my c6 Xinqiu anymore, but I’d feel lost without bennet.
I disagree cause she loses damage if you don't have a healer and her hydro app is noticeably worse than both of em. Especially if xingqui is C6. And if you don't have a good healer then she feels bad cause you'll be dying all the time.
@@putent9623he never said he wouldn’t use a healer lol.
@@wilburforce8046in goes bennett reliant teams and hb teams where "technically" Furina is the bis character but the team feels much worse and vulnerable.
@@putent9623 especially with Xingqiu you can get away with no real Healer, because he provides small heal and also DMG Reduction
@@whitecheeze_rf as a solo sustain, xqs defensive utility is cope at best.
Bennett & Xiangling powercreep when
I don't think it will ever happen just because the 5 stars has long burst animations
"For speedrunning" and thats a big if when natlan comes out
If they really want to, they can easily powercreep both for speedrunning by putting most of the power of the new units into their skill and not their burst, like Nahida. Before Fontaine I would have said that's just too good, ain't no way, but with stuff like Neuv, Furina & Arle coming out I wouldn't find it shocking if they made a Bennett with his atk buff on his skill (burst could be added damage or some other feature related to the Natlan gimmick), and a Pyro fischl that finally solves the pyro off field application issue without the XL ER clunk. With a pyro archon and potentially a pyro sovereign on the horizon, the sky is the limit really.
I just hope they don't end up being on fielders, not only fontaine was already too much onfield, but PYRO onfielders on top of that? That's the last thing we need.
@@victorvonfrankenstein1806 even non speedruns if you have multiple 5 stars in the team with ~3s animations each
Your buffs won't last long for your damaging window
@@MacA60230 even a pyro fischl won't be enough .. aoe is still needed
I can't see a situation where they get replaced
Maybe a new bol stuff for specific teams sure
But a universal better bennett I don't think it will happen
@@AR-gr6pj thats why we have new charactrs like furina or chev that have almost permanent buff uptime
Edit. Also my point was the added 3s long animation doesnt matter for non speedrunners
change the timestamp to "a wild zajef appears"
done!
@@jamiekb9vwhat was it before ?
@@poochycosme zajef enters
I like Jamie’s content not only because his niche is what I enjoy about the game, but because his videos are well edited and really well spread out!
thank you for the nice words! but I think my editing is still a work in progress got a lot to learn still 😅
There has been too many Benny slander out there recently. Glad to have you glaze him for us 10 Benny mains out there!
i guess one of my advantages is since I upload lots of gameplay showcases, I learn first hand the clear speed differences with bennett teams vs without. so that helps to know how strong he still is
i was a benett main when i started the game but now im a neuvi main, but i do use benett all the time and in the abyss first team
i think there's a fair argument for other characters to be the best, but the truth of the matter is that bennett really doesn't have a replacement anywhere. that's what makes him the best in my eyes, but of course there will be several people arguing for a character like xingqiu, kazuha, or furina (and i do think that's also a fair conclusion depending on the way you're looking at the question). i also agree with the other commenter that said people tend to underrate characters they dislike (many of which happen to dislike bennett)
I love the funny workarounds the game has to try to make Bennett less desirable.
Most recently it was how they made Furina’s fanfare stacks to be less synergistic but not being able to counter a high healing build of Bennett.
as a casual player with arlecchino... double hydro arlecchino wihtout bennett feels so bad. my account could live wihtout xingqiu, but it would DIE without bennett.
i reccomend use xq kazuha and bennet xq gives 29% damage res and inter res as a pseudo zhongli
I don’t think you could live without XQ either unless you really really really commit yourself to play just one Arlecchino team.
Trust me, Arlecchino VV vape team without XQ is absolutely horrible to play, especially at low cost and against aggressive enemy. I tested it on my friend account and it made me wanna kms so bad. don’t get me wrong, the team isn’t that bad. it worked fine and dandy until I fought an aggressive enemy like Coppelius. lol
And I think double hydro feels bad for you because you used to see Arlecchino doing bigger number. which is to be expected from frontloaded character like her. that doesn’t necessarily mean the team is bad though. It’s still a good team, just feel perceptively bad.
@@nanathedelta8561 Describe the problems
@@xiahe6708 I even stated it in my comment. seriously, did you not see the word “low cost” ?
If you have enough DPS to one rotate Coppelius in 5-6s, then defensive utility is the last thing you need. except that it’s not for low cost case. try it, try Arlecchino against Coppelius and tell me how it goes, I have no doubt that you could one rotate it but can you do it before they kill you ? that’s the real question.
I'm fairly firmly anti-Bennet most of the time because I hate playing in circles without very strong CC, but every time I play him I recognize that I'm stupid and should really just play him nearly all the time.
THIS IS SOO REAL! This is why I hope natlan gives us a 5* version without the limitation of the circle
loved the use of memes throughout that stream, very interesting convo.
Ive built 3 accounts with entirely different rosters (to pull and test most characters myself before deciding best picks for main acc), and all of my accounts have multiple teams which heavily rely on Bennett (and actually have to fight for him). There are also 2 accounts where i don't use XQ at all. And im not some Bennett fan or whatever (i actually didn't want to build him on release cuz he looks stupid), i simply play ONLY optimal teams (in their optimal situations). I also don't really feel the "circle impact" problem - i have high ER to replace his Q on each new wave (spawning in different place), i can group enemies on his circle with Kazuha, there are plenty of teams which use his circle simply as infusion source (sunfire/Kazuha), and most single targets don't even move (like bosses on their vulnerability phase).
Definitely agree on benny, kazu n xl being the best units even now
zajef's xq glazing is getting out of hand 💀
(I think casuals that suck at the game would struggle even with xq n want to play zl instead if they wanted more comfort while veterans/'try-hards' would play smth like yelan instead for higher dmg)
Yelan is better based on team, with hydro res yelan does more damage but pyro res alows xq to do more damage. if the team like arlechino has a buncha damage percent up to 340 yelan falls off a cliff in terms of dmg percent buffing and xq is better in terms of damage for reaction teams and finally if you use nobless xq better in dps and yelan usually better in hyper teams except in cyno alhatham arlecchino and soem other dps
Why would any casual use ZL over XQ ? It will be comfier, yes, but if they suck at the game, the shield is going to break and they’re going to fking die. not to mention, they are going to struggle at DPS check, as we already knew, ZL is a DPS loss character in most case. you are delusional and detached from reality if you think casual have enough damage to clear nowadays abyss.
I’m a veteran player myself and I still use XQ more than C2 Yelan. probably not using Yelan at all if she’s at C0. I means.. why would I care about measly 25% DMG buff ? why would I care about her damage when XQ damage is similar to hers ?
@@xiahe6708 Some of yours are just… wrong.
With Hydro RES, XQ would do more damage because he has 15% Hydro RES shed. the higher the enemy’s RES, the more valuable RES shed becomes.
With Pyro RES, both XQ and Yelan would do relatively similar DPS. literally written on KQM website. “both of them have similar damage output.”
You also don’t need copious amount of DMG% stacking to make Yelan less useful. her buff isn’t even that great in the first place. I means.. it’s nice and all but it’s a ramp up buff. people see her buff and be like “wow ! 50% DMG ?! Insane ! BATCHEST” when in reality, the average you get from her buff is 25%. which is not bad but it’s not much.
Completely agree. It maybe cuz i have c2 Yelan but if i want dmg, i use Yelan but if i just wanna chill, i'd use Zhongli.
@@nanathedelta8561most sane xingqiu glazer
Nice to see theorycrafters finally talking about Bennett! He's been such an underrated hidden indie gem for all this time it's tragic :(
I can also tell you about ruan mei
He's never been under-rated though? Since the beginning of the game, people have called Benett the secret 6* character of Genshin...
@@DizY_8😀
@@DizY_8 😀
@@DizY_8 sarcasm
Every characters release starting from wanderer till now works well with furina and she is included in basically everyone best team dps wise 4 star or 5 star, support or on/off field dps with the exception of kirara and maybe chiori/arle. She even make older units viable, you say diluc really want bennett, but without xianyun and/or furina he just straight up bad if you're just running bennett kazuha with diluc. So i just don't see how bennett could be better than furina since he also actively make your team more fraglie with his self pyro app
ALL of my irls who plays genshin play it incredibly casually, and they all really like xingqui (mostly because theyre partial to dendro team). Tho I agree that xingqui is less valuable in vape now AND vape is the strongest archetype in the game (since 1.0 even).
Bennet tho, dude carried my abyss from the beginning and hes so cheap to build. The hate he got from being versatile and long lasting is weird to me but people enjoy different things i guess!
Imo strongest character is the one that would have the biggest impact on the game if it would be deleted. If hoyo delete XQ from the game, we will just play furina and yelan, we wouldnt even notice the lack of XQ. Same goes for Yelan. Kazuha is interesting koz we would really miss him, but there is still sucrose... Its a noticable downgrade in many many teams, unlike swapping between yelan and XQ, but its still something usable. There is no bennet replacement for most hypercarries. Some can play Furina + Xianyun and have a similar or sometimes better performance (Xiao, Navia) but the rest would fall off a clif and they would be miles behind the neuvilette and the dendro teams.
Bennet is the one and only irreplaceable god
Yeah Bennett is the top tier with Xingqiu, Xiangling and Fischl imo. But you can now build an 8 character Spiral Abyss team without him, which wasn't possible before Dendro.
Fischl doesnt belong here. Shes a spreadsheet unit
I like how you just embraced being the furina slanderist tc/speedrunner. Good vid man
I don't think you know what slander means 😅
@@happy_and_humble You're right. I should probably add misinformative on top of that 😅
My account is honestly the antithesis of bennett being the best, because somehow all the characters I play don't need bennett that much. A short list of characters I have and how bennett does to them:
Hutao - bennett optimal damage but is not that required to get good clear times, even just jean to vv buff Yelan-C2 Furina core is enough to compensate from experience.
Yoimiya - bennett optimal damage but since I don't have ZL, the defensive utility falls usually on replacing bennett.
Nilou - no brainer here.
Ayaka - no brainer here.
Ayato - only good argument to using bennett here.
Xiao - great option but I gravitate towards jean/xianyun with furina for energy economy of non-c6 Faruzan.
Noelle - would prefer Furina anyways.
If anything Furina have been the most oppressive on my account, being an upgrade to everyone on my roster and would feel shit to play without her.
I even pulled Arlecchino because I wanted someone who's not reliant on Furina, and to use my bennett who is sitting on the shelf for the better part of the last 2 years. The necessity of using bennett was pretty much tied to when I would need to use XL those past 2 years. So far I was reminded of his flaws though, being circle impact and the vulnerability of being in a pyro circle ready to be oneshot by kenki, tulpa, or copellia is not fun. It's an actual threat to survivability which people seem to always gloss over, while they criticize furina for her hp drain which is a non-issue when you are required to use a healer anyways.
Newer characters being bennett reliant again does not show the whole picture where a big part of 2.x and 3.x steered away from using him. I would also not be surprised if they are gearing up these characters in preparation for Natlan or the pyro archon.
Also "improving clear times" is being used very loosely here, because for casuals furina is an upgrade to overall team damage for way too many characters, to easily and consistently reach dps thresholds to 36* star or clear faster. But for speedrunners who don't care about overall team damage per rotation and just want the fastest clear times, that's where you find bennett being more popular.
Benny's Adventure Team, assemble! :)
I agree with you
Kazuha, XL, Bennett are still on top
These 3 people are soo essential and actually makes so many teams feel soo much worse if absent.
I understand why Zaj speaks soo highly of XQ but man the amount of times I go like
I wish I had an extra Bennet and XL is much more than I do for XQ
Kazuha, I cope with Venti, if I am desperate for CC or Sucorse if I need the buffs, but really Kazuha is soo much better.
Zajeff was coping with xingqiu against Bennet zhongli
I feel like he's at the perfect level of skill issue where he can't clear without xingqiu's little crutch but doesn't need a healing or shielding big crutch
But for people he theory crafts for. They can't survive with only xingqiu. So now he's theory crafting for just himself
Not very hard to play xq without healing in range team even for bad players like me
@@xv6016 doubt you're an actually bad player if you're on a Jamie video
@@MuhaamadAreeb good at understanding the game bad at playing it 300 ping with bad devise with bad dodging
I play Arlecchino without Bennett. I use Chevreuse, Fischl, & Beidou.
Bennet is the new patriarchy
The random beef with furina is strong with this one
I don't like either Bennett or Xingqiu but Bennett is better for me.
Xingqiu not only has tough competition, he's also a dps loss to his competition. I haven't played him since Furina release.
Bennett, on the other hand, still have some teams in my account, mainly Arlecchino.
The fact that I can't bench Bennett even if i hate him says Bennett is the better character.
Love Bennett, have used him for years, but I can think of only one unit that feels bad without him. Xiangling. And that's mostly because of the energy funneling. Every other unit has reasonable alternatives. But then, I only care about clearing the hardest challenge (36 star abyss), not optimizing it. Our priorities may differ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
At 15:40 When Zajeff said he would rather play Xingqiu over Zhongli for a 'casual' clear, I knew he has lost it. If he really thinks Xingqiu is more casual friendly or comfortable than Zhongli (when both teams would clear anyways), then he's just glazing Xingqiu for no reason, it's pure copium. Especially including the fact that in this specific Abyss the Cryo Kenki and Copellius freezes you whenever you E on XQ. And it's on Arlechinno no less, who appreciates Zhongli more, as even with dmg reduction, she can't heal on demand so will lose HP regardless.
The take is so horrendously bad that I have just given up on taking that guy seriously whenever he even mentions Xingqiu anymore. Like whenever he mentions him good for a character, my mind literally thinks, "He's probably lying again, let me close this vid/stream right now"
How much zhongli apply hydro? 0 so in a team like hu tao kazuha bennett if you use yelan it’s gonna be 10% dmg higher and so much less comfortable with xq is 10% lower but so much comf with zhonl you lost half the dmg or even more for sm more shield so in that case zn much less options than xq for casual
@@xv6016Arle isn’t a vape slave like Hu Tao is. XQ is providing no direct offensive offense for her other than hydro app. You’re way over-exaggerating his presence compared to ZL.
@@kale1287 ZL give shield xq dr and dmg and hydro thats the deff what make xq better for almost anyone in not hell hard abyss higher dmg arle well deal more dmg with xq than zl and also dmg and if you play yelan with zl or any char is gonna be lower than xq yelan or others and not realy hard to survive for norml players
Because he's the Pyro Archon
No but he has the Pyro Gnosis in his butt.
I think for ATK scaling on field DPS and sub DPS who can snapshot his buff (xiangling, fischl, etc), Bennett is almost always the optimal choice, and he heals too. Personally I prefer teams where everyone can contribute damage, that's why I use Furina more because of her teamwide buff. But why choose if you can have both? :P
Regarding Furina I would agree she is OP but at C2+.
C2 Furina, C2 Nahida are gg wp for Genshin. you can play whatever else
Yeah
Yeah
Classic case of kill the enemy before they kill you vs If they cant kill you, you will eventually kill them
As a new player, a C1 Bennett with Sapwood Blade has much more value than a C2 Xingqiu without a high refine Fav or Sac sword. I guess you could put the pipe on him, but I have Furina.
Also worth adding: I think Zajef overrates Xingqiu's defensive utility for more casual players, this has been a pretty consistent thing for a long time. In my opinion his DR and slight healing is not enough for the average abyss 12 player in most scenarios, someone who isn't super knowledgeable or inclined to get really good at the game, just trying to clear, you still want another healer or shielder. It's still useful but I would not consider it as a sufficient defensive option. It doesn't really compare to just slotting in Zhongli for example
For range team it’s so easy to play it with only xq for melee it so hard but you can make it for some more team
I hate Bennett. But I also think Bennett is still the goat.
I also think it's not by accident anymore, you could argue early on in the game that they just overshot his buffing, but now I think the fact they keep him not only relevant but NECESSARY for most atk scalers AND spam enemies like Coppelia in abyss is a clear design choice. They could design atk scalers that don't benefit much from his flat atk buff but nope they double, triple down on him and make sure you suffer from his pyro aura. They want to create the need for a "new bennett" that they'll sell you in Natlan.
I'm kinda tired of using Bennett (and XL), so... I've been investing in characters and team comps that kinda don't want them there.
what about nahida? her only real replacement is dmc which is quite a bit worse
Not playing a shielder in Nuev teams makes it feel trash. Especially this abyss. Smoking on Hu Tao. I have never used bennet on her team and until recently, with Furina it was just bad. Next do the Zhongli reliant characters. 😂 will be a very similar list. Copellia in every single abyss is the biggest contributor to the downfall of Cryo and Anemo dps. That said the only teams i been able to speed run this abyss chamber 1 and 2 in 30 seconds are you guessed it Bennet teams. Litteraly the only reason Hu Tao on the other side can clear comfortably.
1:07 that's unfortunate that you highlighted that comment in the video but didn't show your tier list of characters that quote on quote "want" Bennett which was basically half of the of the on-fielder units lmao
Glad someone else thinks Bennet is the goat. From a casual players perspective they want their favourite char to meet the DPS threshold to 36 star regardless of resets. I think that Bennet overall contributes more to that goal than XQ will, especially when considering F2P or casual investment. I also think that XQ is also a charcter that is fairly reliant on Bennet being present in vape, whereas Bennet isn't reliant on XQ being present.
I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of Bennett. I want to play Diluc. He needs Bennett. I play Yoimiya. She wants Bennett. I try to play Dehya. My Bennett does more damage. I try to play Thoma. My Bennett protects and buffs more. I try to play Xiangling. Her best team has Bennett. I want to play raiden, childe. They both want Bennett.
He grabs me by the throat. I craft a sword for him. I give him Sapwood Blade. He isn't satisfied. I pull Skyward Blade. "I don't need this much er" He tells me. "Give me more crit." He puts down a small circle on the ground and forces you to stay inside. "You just need to give me higher base attack. I can do more damage with Mistsplitter."
I can't pull for Mistsplitter, I don't have enough primogems. He grabs my credit card. It declines. "Guess this is the end." He applies pyro to you and throws you into the icy clutches of Coppelia. There is no hint of sadness in his eyes. Nothing but pure, no icd 2U pyro application. What a cruel world.
i am anti bennet in that i hate having to stay in a circle, if theres an option to play non circle impact teams i will always pick that. however the experience is always worse than just forcing myself to play bennet. he is the best character in the game imo and it sucks, i wish there were more options.
Ngl I consider myself a skill issue kind of Genshin player, and the only reason I could comfortably deal with the god forsaken cringe fest that double electro abyss lectors was in chamber 2 of floor 12 was because I said fuck this shit and slotted Bennet with TF. I just can't be bothered to reset a gazillion times because they refuse to stay close to each over and over and over again. Doesn't matter what I do. Running to the edge and my ping will make them stay still for almost 10 seconds after respawning. I tried to force them with bursts and that was way too unresponsive sometimes.
So Bennet with Xiangling and a cubic meter of ER was my solution.
I never play Xiangling outside of Rosaria melt. While broken, Xiangling isnt as mandatory as Bennett, Kazuha or Xingqiu to make the teams work imo.
Hi. I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on my personal argument regarding this topic, if you find the interest/time Jamie.
I'm somebody who believes that Xingqiu and Bennett are the two best characters in the game, and I think it's pretty close all things considered. That said, I personally use the tiebreaker that Hydro works in more archetypes overall than Pyro does. Bennett's lack of "oppressive" presence (to use your term, correct me if I'm using it wrong) in Dendro teams is just enough of a knock against him to make Xingqiu the king in my book, even though I still believe they're close. Of course, contextually, Bennett obviously outshines Xingqiu in plenty of situations by a significant margin, which is why I insist that they're close when comparing them to the rest of the cast.
What are your thoughts on this? Xingqiu being Hydro vs Bennett being Pyro when looking through the lens of overall character versatility is the crux of my argument in my own head. Do you have any interesting insight/thoughts to share on this idea? Cheers buddy.
Murata is the only one who can dethrone
him, benny boy is way to strong.
definitely agree with bennett being irreplaceable since even with a c3 arlecchino, without bennett it feels like torture. like i can replace kazuha, yelan, zhongli, whatever other support but bennett increases her damage by so much i feel and it feels like no one can be in that slot besides him, idk maybe its just me
bennet is better than xq beceaus yelan and furina exist
If you're gonna say that about Benett, I feel Nahida is the same...
true, not playing nahida in many dendro teams does make them feel bad. thanks for that
for the longest time i felt like my account really needed a second Xingqiu and when i got yelan my account felt much better. but these days even with a c2 furina i still want a second bennett cuz he feels so needed for so many of my favorite characters and characters i plan to pull. so yeah even if you have strong hydros youll still want a bennett like character that cant take your damage to the next level
I feel like jamie had a strong point. Or honestly stronger. Zajeff was basiclaly saying that bennet is one but hydro is yelan xingqui and furina but that didnt really make sense right? So im wondering if i got his point wrong but if it was that obviously it doesnt make sense. Cause bennet is heavy usable on most characters vs xingqui, yelan, furina being replaceable by eachother.
Like zajeff point was that xingqui drfensive is strong and xingqui is still one of mt favorite character but like jamie said you could just use zhongli with bennet and arle. Like its cope coming from zajeff.
I think he’s just arguing for the sake of arguing
Do you even watch the stream ?
First, Zajef already explained why he think XQ is the best character in the game. his target audience is average casual F2P player. for those target audience, XQ kinda is THE best character. hell, I’m not even F2P casual but I still find myself using XQ more than Yelan and Furina.
Second, Yelan and Furina cannot replace XQ. the same way Kazuha doesn’t replace Sucrose. XQ still have better hydro app than Yelan and Furina combine. even his damage is relatively similar to Yelan.
Lastly, yes, you can use Zhongli with Arlecchino but what if someone want to play different team ? or want to try low cost speedrunning ? in both case, Xingqiu is straight up better option than any option.
Daily reminder that Zajef is the guy who wrote Bennett guide on KQM, the guy who literally have Bennett as his channel’s pfp, the guy that use Bennett as his favorite character in Samsung tournament. the fact that he put XQ above Bennett despite him saying he doesn’t like XQ is enough of a proof that he’s not bias toward XQ. this is the same guy who love Dehya and still calling her dogshit on daily basis.
@@nanathedelta8561 the best character for f2p casuals is Neuvillette and it's not even close. He deals good dmg, tanky as hell, heals himself, easy to play, best team includes Zhongli, good vertical investment path and more.
@@はたけカカシ-u8b Wow, Neuvillette doing good damage ! cool, but you know what’s cooler ? having Bennett buffs your entire team. having XQ applies a massive hydro app for reaction, doing good damage while making active character almost invincible. like.. what does Neuvillette provide that other character can’t ? absolutely nothing. all he does is just damage and that’s it. literally the same as any dedicated on-field characters. all they do is damage.
Wanna play burgeon team ? good luck removing burning aura without XQ.
Wanna play Hu Tao team ? good luck vaping her CA without XQ.
Wanna play ATK scaling characters, which is 90% of the roster ? good luck without Bennett.
Need a flex tape for the team ? Bennett and XQ got you cover.
Without XQ/Bennett , you either stuck with worse version teams OR teams that couldn’t even function at all. now, it’s not like the worse version teams can’t clear, they can but the real question is.. is it good enough to secure 36 stars ? as you may already knew, casual player often do not have enough DPS to reach the clearing threshold.
I’m not saying that Neuvillette isn’t the best for casual. he *IS* but he’s nowhere near XQ and Bennett. he also not a broken character like casual claimed him to be. I highly recommend you to watch some of Jamie’s account review videos or Zajef’s account review videos. plenty of casual player who came for the review often have Neuvillette in their account but not his teammate. you know what both Jamie and Zajef often tell them ? “you don’t have a good team for Neuvillette”. then retort to Bennett/XQ team (unless the account owners say they ABSOLUTELY do not want to play those two)
@@nanathedelta8561 for new f2p casual players, i would recommend Neuvillette for one side and Aggravate teams for other side. There is no way i would recommend Sucrose national, taser, Hu Tao Vape, burgeon, etc to a new player which are sweaty to play. If they don't have enough characters or artifacts, i would just recommend to not to rush and play for a little longer.
From what you said about Bennett and Xingqiu, only Bennett part is true because he has no replacement.
I can just play hydro teams no sweat even if Xingqiu got deleted from my account. There is no team that specifically requires Xingqiu.
Hu Tao, Arlecchino, Yoimiya, Diluc, Gaming, Xiangling, Yanfei, Klee? Their best teams don't even include Xingqiu in the first place.
National, Rational, Hyperbloom, taser? Furina and Yelan can replace him without a sweat.
Burgeon? I won't do this to myself.
Nilou bloom, Freeze, Neuvillette? Don't use Xingqiu in the first place.
I can give Bennett one to you because he's got no replacement but not Xingqiu. A character who is that replaceable can't be the best character by definition.
This is how meta works. It changes from time to time with respect to characters that come out and abyss layouts etc. I understand why at a certain bennett wasnt as favorable but now with how many more atk dependent characters they added, its only natural that bennett is more popular now.
It's definitely interesting see the perspectives. Everyone has their biases, CCs not excluded, and that's fair enough since it's a game after all.
I'm as shocked as jamie at zajef preferring xq over zhongli for comfort clears with arle, haha. 😂 still, good fun to have you guys friendly conversation about it.
I too hope for Natlan to bring Bennet alternatives; and I wonder if they will make certain kind of ATK buffs unstackable, just to prevent the case that both the new bennett alternative and bennett himself have to be played together... 😅 Chevreuse kinda has that.
Xingqiu is great because he can fulfill almost any role that you want a hydro character for, but there's also always another hydro character that can replace him and do his job better. Bennett is great because he's the best buffer in the game, and the other buffers either do his job worse or do his job in a rare niche, so you almost never find yourself using two buffers where one of them isn't Bennett unless a character literally can't use attack buffs.
Alright definitely interesting points here, I still do believe that Furina is better in my opinion because of her actually pretty decent personal damage with pretty good uptime and not restricting you to a circle. But saying Bennett fell out of relevance especially with Arlecchino being out is definitely a bit misleading to me. I'd still say hes the best 4 star for sure. But in general I think that there is no definitive "best" character in the game because we all value different things and every account is different, playstyle preferences as well. Again, great video man!
I wish I could toggle C6 Bennett on just to try his Xianyun Furina plungevape team. :/
The only thing I hate about Bennett is circle impact, I hate being in that tiny circle
Xingqiu is simply more replaceable. I don’t need him anymore. But Bennet is always lingering no matter how much I hate him.
haha. XQ worshiping at its best. After playn Arli in 20 different teams for casual player Zhongli is way above XQ. However the easiest way is to play them both or substitute him for Yelan.
Beny is much more dps loss but Arli is so strong that you can clear at f2p investment wih her and ZhongLi only.
I notice however that I much rather play Fruina in Nahida teams than Xq. Its so much comfort and dps gain cos you can freely burst with Nahida without loss
I agree that Beny is one of the units that is felt much more if not in the team, but Nahida is the same for dendro teams.
Benett is strong sure but did you wash your hands? 03:00
To define who is the strongest you'd have to set clear criteria.
Bennett is currently the most irreplaceable character in the game.
Xingqiu is the most complete character.
Furina is the most "luxurious" character to elevate most teams even further.
Depending on what matters the most to you, any of them can pretend to be the strongest.
A comment that makes sense.
Noelle needs Furina and not Ben. She is kinda unique in that regard. It's nice that Furina is the only valuable character that Noelle wants to horde. The others can go on the other side. Furina also works with her spin to win - very important cus more Fan Fair.
I always considered Bennett to be the best character until Dendro came out where I then dropped him to number 2 after Xingqiu. Both Bennett and Xingqiu are the only characters that are super important to a team's DPS while SIMULTANEOUSLY covering for the defensive and/or healing aspect of team building.
And the only reason Bennett is "irreplaceable" is because they haven't created the 5star version of him yet. If Yelan didn't exist, Xingqiu would have that "irreplaceable" quality as well since many teams are reliant on a consistent high-volume source of off field hydro.
And Xingqiu > Yelan assuming f2p investment because of defensive utility and because there are times when Xingqiu's extra hydro app is necessary and Yelan's app isn't good enough. For the situations where Yelan is better than Xingqiu, Xingqiu is still very close and good enough to replace her, but for the situations where Xingqiu is better than Yelan, Yelan can range from slightly worse (generally the hyperbloom related teams) to significantly worse (any team where you'd lose vapes with Yelan).
Bennett is just so strong that people are just in denial and coping that neuvillette doesnt need bennett = bennett not meta
My account will be dead without Benny if I need bigger numbers to overcome contents :(
Like no, don't ask me to pull for 5 stars lmao
I disagree on XL being top 3. It would be Bennett, Kazuha, Furina same level hands down imo. All carries are up there because of these supports.
Bennett provides: High atk to on field, Heal, self Pyro app
Kazuha : VV, Medium Dmg%, Grouping, upper mid aoe damage, infusion off-field app.
Furina : Universal High Dmg%, High off-field sub dmg, ok hydro app.
Jamie's making th tier list. Not once will he consider furina on par with the other speedrunning supports
I feel a lack of Furina way more than a lack of Bennett. Furina > Bennett.
Also zajeff: glazing Xingqui*
I truly Dk how u even argue against this point, why would u even have this take if it’s not optimal, cause if it’s not optimal ucan play whatever u want, but in terms of optimal dmg like 90% of the cast need Bennet
Optimal sheets doesnt always translate to practicality. For speedruns where its 1 rotating everything and planned out, yes.
@@shizhou5809 yes but even so Bennet is always gonna give u an easier time clearing because of how much dmg u do
I have been consistently36 starring the abyss since I was AR50. Not once did I do it with bennett (not even in the lower floors)
Not because I don't think bennett is good. It's because I hate circle impact (specially small circles)
Undervalueing Xianyun and Furina is a pretty jamie take so I am already used to it. Though Bennet is still really good, one of the best charatcer in the game, but ignoring Furina more unviersal buff and off-field dps potential is a little bit off. Espeically becuase without Bennet a lot fo charatcer have new good teams with Chevreuse or before thet with Dendro. Even Navia have a great team without Bennet.
thanks for the comment but saying furina isn't the best character in the game = undervaluing furina? 🤔 also i don't think i would say xianyun even in the conversation
@@jamiekb9v thing is you are clearly biased and u dont explain how many teams who usually run bennet can now use other chars (chev/cloud retainer/furina/dendro..) I mean no disrespect but u pointing out the strength of bennet without listing his weaknesses make ur take less credible, give us actual numbers/comparisons that show how better is bennet than other supports, and i mean actual showcases not just theoretical numbers coz in abyss depending on a small circle isnt always optimal/practical
@@lapsus4 I show actual showcases all the time, thats basically my whole channel 😅 if anything I get complaints that I don't show enough theoretical numbers
@@jamiekb9vYes I see your showcases but I don't see any comparisons, it's just random speedruns with different buffs/cards and teams so it's not an actual and reliable comparison
@@lapsus4 What are you talking about, jamie is the guy who talks about the practical parts of how teams work, and shows gameplay the most out of most content creators. The last theoretical stuff or spreadsheet I saw from him was like a few months ago.
And for bias goes, everyone has bias. That's why it's an opinion. It's clear that you have Furina bias. Both are strong characters. As long as it includes the best characters in the game (Bennett, Xingqiu, Yelan, Furina, Neuvilette, Kazuha) we can sit the whole day and talk about who's the best and come out with nothing substantial.
Bennet would have been the most broken character in the game if his buff wasnt tied to a small circle, that and the self pyro infusion from his circle which expose u to getting one shotted easily by some bosses
The self pyro is a blessing and a curse tbh. Biggest pro is his flawless synergy with Kazuha
The self pyro thing is the only reason I think Kazuha is better than Sucrose.
@@jadedeleon156it's not flawless because ennemis can hit you during Kazuha's burst but I agree that it's a blessing, it remove any cryo aura slowing you down, any debuff that the enemies sometimes have around them (like slowing water, the cooldown increase)
zajef is trying to be contrarian and convince himself too much
alhaitham with bennett? can someone suggest me some teams as an al main im kinda confused
alhaitham nahida fischl bennett but its a very specific team for optimising damage and not really for casual comfort clears
@@jamiekb9v huh that is a team I haven't thought it would work better than quickbloom. thanks for the suggestion i'll try it later!
Bennett Best Character
Comparing her to bennett doesnt make her not overpowered. Like? They’re independent characters first and foremost 😭
he definitely is... the amount of arguments i had with people saying furina was better... hell naw
What is bro on? Ive been a c1 wriothesley main since he came out and i rarely use bennet. I main arlecchino now and I dont use Bennet at all. I 36* every abyss. It's like you spread sheet bros want to pretend the game is harder than it is
I think for a lot of people, the idea of playing the same three 4 star units that have been in the game since launch is just boring.
I see both sides, I know how valuable Bennett, Xiangling and Xingqiu are, but don't want to always play them myself and don't think they're the best units.
Personally I don't think many characters are THAT Bennett reliant. A few maybe. Arlecchino has great synergy with Bennett and he's invaluable for speed running, but outside of that she doesn't need him and can clear anything in the game without him.
Jamie likes big numbers: If Jamie sees no big numbers then Jamie gets sad~
i play lots of nilou bloom and keqing aggravate which have lots of little numbers! 😃
Wrong! Bennett has never been a strong character.
You can say important, good or versatile etc
But he's rather weak when it comes to personal damage output.
first
He’s very good, but I want him to be powercreept. I want him to powercreept by the pyro Archon; because it’s fit so much, and that how he would be powercreept by her:
1- Making her forces all of your teammates to deal damage, and Bennett can’t deal damage, and the Pyro Archon is so strong that a character that don’t synergies with her is having an “issue” or “flaw.” Also forcing all of your teammates; to deal damage is a flaw to Furina; because she requires a healer (a character that doesn’t deal damage). And that’s good; to reduce Furina's universal usages.
2- doesn’t apply a pyro on the on-field character.
3- Buff all of your teammates, unlike Bennett who buff just the on-field one.
4- her buff is a damage% buff to synergies with the none-attack; scalers.
5- having a useful elemental skill, that deals a ton of damage; that’s higher than vaporise Xiangling.
6- not a circle impact-buff; depended.
7-making her design so beautiful, and having very good animations, and very hyper up (by fighting her to Capitano clearly); so a lot of people will pull for her, and forget Bennett.
8- making Natlan characters don’t use Bennett (by any way); to reduce his universal usages.
9- and finally making her super lucky. (by surviving from Capitano clearly)
And… By her; it would by another Bennett's unlucky day…
Strongest at being annoying as shit maybe
Not sure why benette has any popularity but hes such trash hes lv 1 and mines 24/7
Im kinda proud at this point that the bennett on my day one account is only lvl 20 for the extra pull, I'll never play him
What's the point of TC when you can beat the game with National on one side and Hyperbloom on the other until the game's EOS?
Especially now when an actual skill-based Gacha ARPG is less than a week from release.
Bennett simulator, how fun!
people have fun doing different things i guess
Fun
because genshin isn't majorly skill based so people don't care about using the same meta team, and want to do different stuff, even if it's a different meta team
If genshin only has national and hyperbloom as the only good team, you'd already quit at 2.0 let alone get to 2.1. It's boring, so stop using bennett, do something different as long as you still feel good, aka it's as strong as hyperbloom. If you're sick of your messy room, clean it up, if you're sick of your bedsheets, buy a new one.
I mean, brother, I can also ask: “Why play Genshin Impact if there’s not a lot content?” Or “Why playing Genshin Impact if it’s wastes a lot of time of your real life?” Or “Why spending the resin; if you already have good artifacts?” Or “Why the people who are extremely smart and have a very good potential for real life; wastes thier time for something like ‘Genshin’”? It’s clearly for habit reasons, and the peoples who don’t want to change… But I very appreciate you braveness for saying this kind of opinion to a whole channel that's around theorycrafting, and a community around it also. 🗿👍 (not a hate for them tho)